The Ultimate Guide to 9mm PCCs
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You guys missed the Extar Ep9. They are around 400 and are exceptional. Light and accurate and takes glock mags
Also run as reliable as paul blart
@@---td4ff must be your ammo, mine runs like a scalded dog
I agree they need to check out the Extar.
i agree. My extar runs great.
Mine has never failed but I think the limited availability keeps it off a lot of these lists.
God rest Barry. Biggest omission is the Extar EP9. The absolute value king. 449.00 with brace and comp. Glock mags, side charger, ideal for running suppressors. Last round bolt hold open. And the best blowback recoil damper ever in 9mm carbine. At 4 pounds.
The CMMG is the best if money is no object. But I would rather have 3 EP9,s.
They're awesome 😎
You bumped your head B&T is killing the PCC game in blowback’s if you can afford them tho?
@@svtkilr EXTAR is lighter, and just as good suppressed. You could buy 2 Extars. 2 suppressors and 2 tax stamps of the price of just the unbraced B&T. Plus the Extar is AR compatible w/ triggers grips and safeties and comes w/ a brace. B&T Has a better recoil mitigation system. But it is also more prone to failures.
@@markrippt4677 B&Ts are AR comparable too buddy! learn your guns before you try to compare junk to high quality Swiss Made PCC’s. Extars are garbage!
@@svtkilr Really? How many B&Ts do you own?
No mention of the extar EP9 or the MCK or the Roni
My Extar runs like a champ I looooove it.
where can i buy one?
You guys completely missed the EXTAR EP9!
Agreed. The most inexpensively priced, yet smooth running PCC on the market. ... They also brain farted on the CMMG Banshee.
@@yikesvikes The Guard is what the Banshee used to be called.
Extar EP9 hands down !!!
I don't think they even talked about it. They must not think much of it
They may not know about it because it's only available direct. That being said, I love the hell out of mine. Protos handguard, a Romeo 5, and a bag of funsticks and I'm having a good time at the range. Have a CGS mod9 sk in NFA prison. Can't wait to try it!
I love mine so does my wife id grab my EP9 if I heard a bump in the night over my 10.5” 5.56
I think it is illegal in NJ... can anyone let me know? I would LOVE to buy one!
where can i buy one?
Ive had a Ruger PC Charger set up to suit me for about $1400 total and ive shot probly 1000 rds flawlessly. Puts on average 46 outta 50 in a 8" paper plate at 25 yards. Also when taken down i can get all of it plus speedloader, box ammo and small accessories in a 14" x 10" nylon tool bag. Most fun had in while. Also it has 2 receivers so can fit LOT of diff mags.
Did my heart good to see Barry there in a few frames. RIP
Yeah Barry was a great man
He punched out in the perfect time!
Wasn't he convicted of diddling a kid
@@SuperiorDefense unless you have a link quit talking shit bud
@@SuperiorDefense really ???
Being the owner of a very inexpensive 9MM PCC, I’m not sure of any 9MM PCCs POU. (Philosophy of Use)
I love my Hi-Point 995TS and with OEM approved 20 round RedBall Sports Magazines, it’s a very dependable, accurate, fun PCC.
It eats everything without any problems. But that wasn’t my only 9MM PCC.
In 2018 I bought a KelTec Sub2000 (Glock mags only) and it was a true “Jam-O-Magic”.
I sent it back under warranty, and it returned 3 months later only slightly better. Only half the time it would it run an OEM 17 round Glock magazine without jamming.
I sold it for what I paid, and yes I did disclose its issues.
As the owner of 3 Ruger firearms, I gave the Ruger PC-9 a try with a good friends rifle, but it felt cheap and the receiver with magazines installed fit very loosely with significant play. It was accurate, reliable and fun to shoot, but wasn’t any better than my Hi-Point other than it is a take down rifle.
The Chiappa sure sounds interesting, (I have one of their SAA) but it has many bad reviews, and I have yet to shoot one.
As for the more expensive PCC’s, I just don’t have any desire to spend $800+ on a firearm without a defined POU.
I’ll stick with my 9MM pistols as sidearms, my AR-15s as battle rifles, and my .308 hunting rifles for long distance.
For my hiking trips into the wilderness, I bring my Rossi R92 Lever Action rifle and a GP100 along with a Browning Buckmark and plenty of .357MAG and 22LR.
It may not be 9MM, but the Rossi R92 with 10 rounds of .357MAG is the perfect old-fashion PCC, and a perfect companion to the GP100.
Scorpion for the win
Nah. Straight blowback sucks. Also, you can get a CMMG radial delay bolt/barrel and build a 9mm PCC for cheaper than a scorpion.
@@NACAM42 lol u probably suck with trigger and recoil control 😉
Sorry too late I bought one years ago and love it. 🤷🏻♂️
Sorry Psa AKV-9 for the win.
Ak Pak 9 for the win
Great video but missing Extar EP9 and Noveske PCCs
where can i buy one?
Excellent video. I built a Colt AR variant with our beloved Anderson receivers, Hann Block, CMMG ramped bolt and Faxon Barrels. Uppers I run are Anderson non forward assist receivers with a 16" Faxon barrel upper, a 10.5" Faxon Barrel upper, and im building a 4.5" Faxon Barrel upper with a 3 lug mount. The lighter you go the more you feel the moving mass so I will be switching to a Maxim Gen7 CQB / JP captured spring and removing the lead from the CMMG ramped bolt. I found this vid doing research for the latest upgrades (Maxim CQB, JP spring, and finding 10" rail that will fit over my 4.5" barrel paired with a Rugged Obsidian 9 on the 3 lug) Ive narrowed it down to two rails, Faxon's CF 10" or the Griffin SR-Rigid 10.5. Thanks for all the great info.
not a word about Extar ep9 ????
Extar EP9 is boss at the $$$MSRP. Love mine...
Zzzz
I love my B&T APC9...Suppressor, Aimpoint....awesome package!
Brigade Manufacturing BM-9 is an excellent AR-9 that uses standard Glock 9mm mags. I swapped a ton of standard AR-15 parts onto mine including charging handle, MBUS sights, grip, SB brace, safety selector, and legal AFG. $650-750 these days.
Love my scorpion. All tricked out with HBI parts. I’d say it’s my favorite gun in my safe so far. Just wishing I could find more 9mm to feed threw it 🤠
Fell in love with it when I first saw one. Saw one on the wall in my LGS and took it home. Extended HBI charging handle was the first thing I added...then switched out the right selector switch.
The accessories and aftermarket parts have exceeded the initial cost for my scorpion. But I use it as my backpack gun. So I didn’t want to cheap out.
@@Darkside1911 have you checked out Peak Case co.?
It was probably the least favorite gun I have ever purchased. Sold it a few months after buying it. Different strokes for different folks.
@@scottp4077 no I haven’t. I’ll take a look.
CMMG upper for AR pattern rifle chambered in 9mm with mean arms mag conversion insert for p-mag 2nd generation. A little expensive but works very nice. Radial blowback and last round bolt hold open. It’s a soft shooter that works very well.
Correct
EP9! Great price, Glock mags, Reliable!
Absolutely! You just have to be on your toes to get your hands on one. These are feather lite and softer shooting than my EVO. Maybe one day they will get their hands one to show it off.
@pete mitchell So true! Get on their alert list. They usually are available once a month. I absolutely love mine!!!
Create an account ahead of time, get on the alert list, and I noticed that when I was stalking their site to get mine, it appeared that small batches were released midweek noonish many times - just hafta act fast.
@@y002033 I wonder if these guys even know about them? Extar send them a couple to try out!!!
Absolutely love my EP9!!!! No issues! Shoots anything. Inexpensive to shoot that steel cases ammo... can’t go wrong with this!! Price is excellent
I have a conversion CMMG Banshee with Franklin Arms binary trigger.
5" 9mm barrel and a Holosun red dot.
I also have the 5.7 upper in 8".
Although a pistol, the thing easily double taps steel at 100yds and fits in my kids Minecraft backpack.
I have Glock pistols and could have chosen the AR9 system, but chose the conventional mag well so I could run different conversions from the same lower.
At this point, 9mm is more pricey than gold.
Silver !!!
Convert your Glock to run on 22tcm I can still find that for like $18 for 50
Yep
I’ll trade a pistol for 9mm ammo at this point lol
What is pricey to you??? Just curious!
One thing about the JR Carbine is that if you get an older one the takedown is incredibly inconvenient. You need a castle nut wrench and other tools. They also stress only using graphite lube in their literature. They do shoot great and are a lot of fun and won't break the bank. I just couldn't get my hands on a newer one with the takedown lever. Traded mine in for an APF-9.
Mighty bold of Eric to assume YT will still have pew vids in 10 years. Lol. We make end of 2021 I'll be surprised.
i love you two together you really bounce off each other well and I can tell you guys enjoy working together. Also wanna say i really appreciate you guys keeping the uploads coming during these trying times to keep us well informed! You guys are an awesome favorite gun channel by far keep up the great work!
Eric interrupts Chad a lot… other than that, right on.
I didn’t hear the Extar EP9 mentioned.
Zzzzz
12:05 in is my FX-9, I absolutely love this one and runs great. Never had any issues and very accurate. Definitely recommend
They are very good carbines, and they can reach targets over 250 yards away. They handle hollow-point ammo reliably. The accuracy is also good with good ammo.
Where’s the H&K SP5?
I recently put together an AR-9 with the PSA lower that accepts the Colt style magazines. I went with the Colt style because when I purchased it several years ago, the Glock style didn't have the last round hold open. The magazines are a little more expensive, but really not bad. I only have around 200 rounds through it, but so far it's been flawless and shoots roughly 3" groups at 100 yard with a red dot. It has an AR Stoner upper and a Rosco 7.5 inch Bloodline barrel. Very happy!
I love my Ruger PC charger.... the weight is a plus for me like you said it's very well balanced. I threw an SBA3 brace on it and it is def top 5 in my arsenal right now.
I second this - really easy to shoot as the tungsten weight reduces recoil and muzzle rise. It is heavy, but ergonomics are great.
FM-9 for me, Fox-Trot makes a good blow back gun
where can i buy one?
Awesome job as usual guys! I really appreciate the time y’all put into making great, entertaining, yet informative content on a regular basis!
You forgot the extar ep9
Zzzz
I know this video is over a year old but I have to comment:
The B&T GHM9 Compact Gen 2 9mm with the Glock lower and Telescoping Tailhook brace is absolutely superb IMHO. The price point was kind of sting at 2k but when I got my hands on it…..The fit and finish is amazing. Disassembly and maintenance is very easy. Most importantly it is an absolutely sweet shooter. Buy once cry once indeed. I honestly wish I bought 2 of these.
I got a CX4 and shortened the barrel. It's awesome and I already had enough mags for it.
EVERYONE mentioned the extar -9 but...Brigade manufacturers!! Surprised the Bm-9 didn't get mention... 😔😫 I have the tungsten grey 7".. This firearm definitely deserves some recognition. It's quality is right next to cmmg banshee
was the Extar EP9 considered? I've always been intrigued by it.
Love mine but idk if they mentioned it.
@@shanemaddox1852 how has it performed? You think the polymer construction will stand up over time?
They didn't mention it... but for the price I think the Extar is the best bang for your buck.
@@rudder727 yeah I bought my Ruger PC Charger because at the time it was available and the Extar was not. While I’m happy with my Ruger, the Extar at half the cost would have helped defray the cost of ammo.....
I think for the price and the fact they're still available makes them so worth it. Glock is made of plastic and nobody questions the longevity of them plus extar got their start making all plastic AR15's and those have held up great. I have an ep9 and I love it!
I to have the Cx4 Storm and love it. I have since added the Beretta 92x RDO for the capability of magazines.
The stribog with the oil filter looks so cool
You guys should do more comparisons w/pcc’s like ya did with stribog & b&t. Great video thanks for making this one.
I wish Beretta would update the CX4 with all Aluminum contrustion with AR hand guard, collapsing stock AR stock and the ability to take 92 Vertec grips. I would like to see Beretta bring it up to date.
I was lucky enough to shoot a CZ Scorpion with a binary trigger. So much fun!
So did I last summer and it was a blast and the owner was so cool he wouldn’t let me give him the ammunition back to replace what I shot
Glad to see PCC's get some love. I have three, two of which you covered. That said, my DA AKX-9 is my favorite. You get what you pay for.
Any thoughts you want to put out on Foxtrot Mike products?
Yeah they said FM-9 there once but were showing a FX-9.
I guess no love for foxtrot Mike. I would not trade mine for a lot of the other more expensive carbines.
@@johnstine330 just received my 7" upper today
Zzzz
Agreed. Fm9 is clearly underrated. Very accurate, very well made. And amazing customer service on top of all that. It's sad they didn't even get mentioned.
I wonder if the Ruger pc charger's pistol can interchange with the pc rifle?
Take down versions can definitely exchange barrels.
I’m actually not a fan of the CZ scorpion. And I LOVE CZ pistols. Wife and I have a few and we adore them. The 75 platform Is amazing. Just the scrip iron for the price doesn’t tickle our fancy
CMMG rocks…I luv my 9MM Banshee upper which really works like a charm mated to my AERO pistol lower build using their CMMG MagPul AR 15 9MM magazine conversion inserts…flawless, soft shooting and accurate…best $630 I’ve ever spent for the satisfying results 👍👍👍
Extar ep9 449..
New frontier armory makes great AR9 lowers.
One you didn't mention is the PSA AR-V9 which is the AR version of the AK-V9 using the scorpion mags.
Love my Masterpiece Arms Mini 9mm and my Kriss Vector.45acp. I used the MP5N for many years as a Recon Marine we only wished we could get it in .45acp or 10mm auto, then we switched to short CAR 15s which is what we at 3rd Recon started with back in 86, but everyone else was using MP5s. So they made us switch, then off course once Delta decided to go CAR 15 , we could go back.
Bought a dedicated glock 19 lower on gunbroker for $175 and added a mechtech upper for $450. Love it. Super accurate.
You didn’t mention the Foxtrot Mike
I have one with the 10.5 barrel and side charger. I love it
Zzzz
One of the guns I lost in that tragic boating accident was a Sub2K that took Beretta mags. The big advantage I recommend it for is that I put it in the car when traveling to/thru states with draconian gun laws. It has a full length barrel so it is legally a rifle, it has no scary features such as a magazine well separate from the grip or a bayonet lug and when paired with a couple of 10rd mags, it also stays below the stupid capacity rules. The fact that it folds in half means it fits in any suitcase so you don’t attract attention in a hotel lobby or parking lot. An added bonus is that if it ever seized by an overzealous cop, you’re only out four hundred bucks.
Note: a 9mm out of a 16” barrel has the muzzle energy of a .357mag.
Would I recommend it to somebody that doesn’t also own a pistol that shares a common mag? No, it isn’t a great rifle and there are much better ones on the market, but for the purpose I mentioned above it is a great traveling rifle.
Love the Lucille bat in the background.
Y'all forgot the extar EP9! Great, cheap gun.
where can i buy one?
I have a beretta storm and I love it. It also takes the same magz as my chiappa pak-9.
This video convinced me to pick up an Extar just to see if I want to get into this world and I already have a ton of glock mags. I'm glad I did. Literally threw a vortex red dot, and an old APLC light on it and I love it. Probably 800 rounds through it so far and only 2 malfunctions with one of their cheap mags. Any of the rest work. 👍
Is the foxtrot Mike ar9 a good entry level option?
I believe it is. Solid gun from what I can gather. My first PCC was a Gen 4 px9 from palmetto State and it has been a jewel.
Armalite m-15 9mm 9” barrel Glock mags SWEEET!!! I got a few hundred rounds through it and so far flawless victory
Love this❤
Wish there were more 10mm PCCs, best pistol round in my humble opinion
I agree. Too bad 10mm is so expensive and scarce
I'm wanting to get a PCC for home defense because I live in an apartment with ppl on two sides of me and above, and I just think the penetration of 9mm is preferable to a rifle caliber in my situation. I have a P229 in my nightstand now but a rifle/carbine is so much easier to shoot and be accurate with. I'm thinking about an Evo Scorpion so far.
Please check out some of Paul Harrell’s video demonstrations on penetration through modern construction materials. You would be amazed how many layers a 9mm round can blast through.
Im planning to get the AK9 or Kalashnikov 9mm KPC9. That looks like a good PCC even though its a bit pricey on their website.
Worth mentioning is that a B&T rep was asked very directly what you get for the price differential between the ghm9 and the apc9, and his answer was basically not much.
I have a Sub 2000 and Sig MPX. I absolutely love them.
I stopped watching at 8:35 when they just totally skipped over the EP9! It maybe polymer but Glock and Kel-tec is too! But it just feels like a lot of hate on EP9 just because it's cheap and affordable.
And they only sell direct. Love my ep9
They said the fm9 was the cheapest ar9? I mean whay about PSA too? These guys dropped the ball!
Zzzzzz
Just picked up my first PCC a brigade BMF9!
Thanks for all your great info guys!
How do like yours ? I got one and have yet to get it to the range..
Beretta cx4 storm is straight baller. Accurate and dependable.
I don’t understand how any of the Striborgs can be considered wonderful when you gotta replace half the gun just to make something reliable.
I have a grand power p40 I got from bersa when my mini 40 broke twice. The p40 is an awesome full-sized combat/service gun. The striborg just looks retarded
I’d go with a scorpion, it’s made reliable, customizable and very lightweight. I also like CMMG Banshee & Ruger PCC (takes Ruger & Glock mags).
I prefer the Banshee over the Scorpion. The Scorpion was too bulky for my taste.
Between you and your friends y’all have a very very nice collection
I want to spend the rest of my life around or at least close to people like you. Real 2A people are the coolest people I know or know of.
This random throwback footage of Eric is gold.
Love my APC 9 Pro! Just ordered the newish aluminum lower with Elftmann trigger pack, to compliment the Glock lower i currently have. Great review guys!
Nice topic. Pistol Caliber Carbine in 9mm. Suggest a discussion on 300BLK versus true pistol caliber. Next suggestion. Length of AR pistol lengths versus X95 in 300BLK. I know sound like a promotion for X95.
What could you build a PCC for today? Maybe a parts list for Chads PCC build and details? Maybe build
3 models at different price points?
I want you guys to build an FGC-9!
no Rock River Arms LAR9 I have one and absolutely love it and great price point
Its a great gun. With an EOTECH holo site its my go to for home defense.
FoxTrot Mike... Getting no love here. I have an FM9 from them. Really quality firearm with no complaints. (Just locktite the ejector).
Was really hoping to see the Brigade in this video. Florida manufacturer
Dave Zito Me too! I bought one this year and I love it! 9” barrel and in tungsten gray. I put an eotech on it and hit targets dead on without zeroing it in! Sure fire light with 750 lumens. Plus bought additional mags.
I did not buy the “double tap” type trigger for it. It’s made for home defense. To protect my family and to have fun with. My wife loves it because it doesn’t kick and it uses the same mags her glock 19 can use as well.
We simply love it.
Only ran a couple hundred rounds through it. Waiting for stores to get more 9 mm but I haven’t seen any for sale in the last month. What’s new , right
@@benhollerbach3564 heck yeah bro.
I have the same gun/color
Topped mine with a Vortex Spark AR. Seekins 45 throw safety in tungsten, Magpul plus grip in grey, raptor charging in tungsten, and of coarse tons of Glock mags. I just put a cmc trigger in it too. Haven’t shot the trigger yet, but can’t wait!!!!
It’s a tac driver at 7 yards. Def my favorite pcc I’ve owned or shot. I think Eric and Chad would worship the Brigade at the price point.
LOVE IT!!!
SP9 A3, MDP-9, MP5, Scorpion mini, MPX, and that LoneWolf really stand out and I haven't even selected the one's for Clock magazine compatibility yet...lol
I once saw a teenager run consistent sub 3 second runs at a steel challenge match using a beretta storm. I remember leaving that match saying I need one of those so bad.
If I could have one Ruger PC. Yes it comes in pistol form or ASSAULT form but it also comes in standard. The fact that it will take ANYA GLOCK mag and is also available in 40 and has irons, and has several rails for lights lasers and optics and is fairly cheap. That does it for me
9:29 think it’s funny that he said it prices fluctuate and he earlier talked about the now discontinued flux defense glock kit
My picks:
Low price: Kel Tec S2000
Mid price: Cz Scorpion Micro with brace
High price: CMMG Banshee
Highest price: B&T TP9 with brace or APC9 brace
Y’all look so similar with those same glasses... GP Streebogz (not stry bog) are so legit. Back in 2018 when prices weren’t outrageous, I was in between the Stribog and Scorpion, I handled both guns and would’ve spent the $75 extra for a stribog over a scorpion without hesitation.
I am a PSA fanboy. I wanted a PSA5.. But settled for the AKV. It's the most fun gun I own. The mags are FAB U LOUS. Only issue with the AKV..it doesn't seem to run any hollow points. Feed it FMJ...it's happy all day long.
Most of these you mention are not carbines---they are large pistols with braces ---
EXTAR 9mm $460 All day every day----Glock mag, LRBHO, comes with brace and delayed blowback!!!!take that CMMG
SUB 2000 $350 multi mag runs with adapters: SIG P226, SIG P320, CZ, MP, Beretta 92 and Taurus PT92 etc
I am still confused and I now have a headache. I just want a carbine chambered in 45 at a decent price. What should I look for? I am new to these platforms, so please don’t beat me up!
44:16 - Hahahaha, Eric, what're you doing, man?
I'm here because I love the channel and love this idea, but greatly here to view the comments this time! Haha
I’ve got a 7” Foxtrot Mike 9mm and a 5.5” Brigade manufacturing 9mm and they are my #1 and #2 favorite guns that I own and both run like sewing machines the only difference is I run endomags with both which is just an insert for your 5.56 pmags that allows you to run 9mm and I gotta say I believe the endomags run smoother than the Glock mags
How is the recoil on the 7”? I’m trying to decide between the FM9 (i prefer the familiar controls) and the PC Charger what seems to be a flat shooter (given the weight - which doesn’t bother me).
Love my ruger pcc. Otherwise, I'd just do a glock mech-tech conversion upper.
This was incredibly detailed and comprehensive.
Very good thorough review. I don't own anything stated in the video but I would consider a kel tek sub2000 or the psa ak9.
Wish our PCC could of made this list.
My colt runs like a top with no issues with whatever I feed it I did drop a 2 lb tungsten buffer in it
B&T does offer a glock mag gmbh9
The new AERO Precision EPC is the best PCC right now. You guys should review it.
KUSA KP9 FTW, especially in SBR format
Great video guys, LOVE the Stribogs too. You had me rolling on the floor @44:15....thank you!
I have a Palmetto AR-V, takes Scorpion mags, installed Devil Dog Concepts Hard Charger (side charger). So far so good, sub-$1K
This video is 3 years old, which isn't that long ago. You wouldn't think that prices have fluctuated all too much in just 3 years, however those 3 years represent a jump in inflation that pretty much supercedes the prior decade. So prices have certainly fluctuated since this video and the price they've mentioned.