Chat'N Draw: How I Bluffed My Way Into An Art Career

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  • @ElsaCharretierChannel
    @ElsaCharretierChannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ⚡️ Get my new artbook here! www.bigheadlittlearms.com/shop

  • @KennyGsca
    @KennyGsca 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm 35 and have 3 disabled kids so life is tough and its busy as it gets , I always wanted to be an Illustrator/Artist my whole life but ended up working in the Media industry as a Breakfast radio announcer and voice over artist. To support my family I left Media and now I sell Medical software to Drs. Seeing this video is inspiring knowing that it just has to be this way for a little while until I am able to somehow make that time to create some Art and then take advantages of opportunities as they arise to Create my dream...of making a living through my Art. Thank you for sharing. This has really helped to give me hope.

  • @marioaugusto5408
    @marioaugusto5408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    As someone who lives outside the USA (I live in Brazil, sadly) I can understand how hard it is to work on a daytime job that doesn't really help you except for the fact that it pays (part of) the bills, while at night you study hard to be able to, someday, walk away from said daytime job. I did not have the endurace to study in my little free time while I had a job (I would rather sleep or watch some TV series to clear my head). I thought that doing freelance work would help me improve my work, and it did, but in Brazil is hard to live only with comissions. The sunk cost fallacy you mention came in good time, for I have been investing in art materials, tutorials, etc for 10+ years and now I don't even know if I like doing art anymore. I am at a stage where I don't know if I should give up art and try something else, or if I should persist a little more. This video has been very enlightening, so thank you 🦄💜

    • @halaneverson4549
      @halaneverson4549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same. It's been 8 years i'm trying to get in comics, just did 1 gig. Nobody calls back, i cant help my family with money, and i'm here trying in the middle of this pandemic with 0 perspective. I think it's easy to give up when you're ashamed of it and success (i mean commercial success) is not for everyone

    • @ElsaCharretierChannel
      @ElsaCharretierChannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      This is a tough one- maybe step away from art for a while, and see if you naturally some back to it. It can be hard to realize that what you thought was meant to be is not, but it’s also a good way to move forward in life. You might also realize you still need it in your life in some capacity (a fulfilling passion?) Good luck :)

    • @marioaugusto5408
      @marioaugusto5408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ElsaCharretierChannel thank you for your kind words 🌈💜

  • @romaindet8181
    @romaindet8181 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ça donne tellement d’espoir pour ceux qui comme moi, espère toucher du bout des doigts une carrière comme la vôtre! Je vous suis depuis tellement longtemps, ça fait du bien de voir que la persévérance paie !

  • @davidallenperriniii7578
    @davidallenperriniii7578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Domino holds a special place in my heart. She was my first BIG Marvel gig!

  • @gannonbeck718
    @gannonbeck718 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're an inspiration.The fact that you decided to make comics in your mid-20s is incredible. I would love to see some of your first attempts at drawing and hear more about how you approached leveling up to your current skills.

  • @parthorstensson7252
    @parthorstensson7252 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I must say what an immense impact this video had on me Elsa. It nearly brought me to tears and I am a person that don't cry easy.
    I myself have struggled with depression more or less for 15 years. I am currently on sick leave as of january last year. 30 years old, without a job and suicidal.
    My love of storytelling is one massive part of what keeps me alive. The prospect of being a writer have been in my mind since my mid-teens and writing comics almost as long. Dealing with the second-guessing and self-loathing that comes with the territory of depression have made the progress of this endeavour slow. The feeling of a societal pressure to do the "responsible" thing and get a "real" education and job haven't exactly helped either.
    I write all this because your video helped me find some things within myself and enforce a belief in my own creative path. That as long as I refuse myself to walk that road with true purpose I will stay broken and torn. To become whole I must risk breaking. Stop trying to find security through things I don't desire and give this love called storytelling a real chance.
    So thank you from the bottom of my heart for sparking this heightened yearning for creativity by exposing your own journey from sorrow to happiness.

    • @ElsaCharretierChannel
      @ElsaCharretierChannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You’d be surprised how many creators struggles with depression or anxiety. I don’t want to say it comes with the territory, but, almost. If you can use that to your benefit, that’s a great way to improve your mental health as well. Going out of our comfort zone is hard, especially when navigating every day is already a struggle, but if you feel art in your bones, give it your whole, at least you’ll know you’ve explored that path.

    • @parthorstensson7252
      @parthorstensson7252 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElsaCharretierChannel Yes, I have figured out it is pretty common among artists of any kind. I guess it is so because all art to some degree look at, explore or reflect the world we live and that can be rather unhealthy in the long run. The whole "gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee"-thing.
      I really feel that writing is something therapeutic for me so I will try to allow myself to go wholeheartedly into it. I mean hearing Ed in your interview talking about how it works for him was also really inspiring.
      Thanks for the encouraging words and all the best to you!

  • @robd92
    @robd92 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a bit late to your channel. I literally just discovered your channel a few weeks ago while I was browsing through TH-cam for Mike Mignola content. It was because I wanted to study his art and process. I have a story brewing at the back of my head and I want to turn it into a comic book. I’m taking this video as a sign to actually start working on it. Thank you so much, your channel and art is such an inspiration.

  • @HrvojeGrahovac
    @HrvojeGrahovac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great Domino drawing

  • @peterfadness464
    @peterfadness464 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Elsa, I enjoyed your story as I have enjoyed your other videos. I think sometimes beginning something at a later age than what might be the norm can have some added benefits. I am an art teacher, but did not begin teaching until I was in my 40s. Having had quite a bit of life experience by the time I started teaching has allowed me to be a more nurturing teacher because I have empathy for the road that lies ahead of my students. Storytelling, whether it is through art or literature, gains richness through the failures and successes we endure. Gauging someone's probable success has more to do with how they react to failure than anything else. Your story exemplifies that, so to you I say, most sincerely, "Well done!"

  • @nathankempf1990
    @nathankempf1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a letterer, I really struggle to build myself a career (especially since I'm French, too, so you know editors don't come to conventions around here). It's really nice to hear about how you got into it and eventually built yourself a career!

  • @rayday2521
    @rayday2521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you for sharing your story. I appreciate how honest your advice is. You guys deserve your success: I love The Infinite Loop so much. Thanks for this vid. :)

  • @SGArtRoom
    @SGArtRoom 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Artwork sharing!!

  • @sneekopotamus
    @sneekopotamus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can NOT believe you started that way. Remarkable. Keep it up!!

  • @undercovercomics
    @undercovercomics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    TIP TOP CHARLIE BRAVO !

  • @sanathkomire4719
    @sanathkomire4719 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm 25 now I spent my whole life dreaming about becoming a film maker. I used to watch tons of videos on screenwriting, editing , directing, cinematography etc. I read books on those almost for last 5 years I spent studying them rigorously. Then I moved to city to find a job while I was working on day job I was pitching my ideas to people in industry hell I even wrote entire web series synopsis and gave a ppt representation with images. I was sending them to production houses through people I know who is working there. It's been 2 years I got no response so I was tired and didn't want to think about movies. So I started reading Manga and comics sort to temporarily lock myself away from films. I did manage to stay away from cinema for 1 yeah. Then I started watching movies talking to people again trying to get opportunity. But some where deep inside I'm so sure things won't go the way I wanted them to go I'm not hoping for opportunities or at least I'm hopeless about my film journey going forward. I'm so confused angry at myself. I kept telling myself " You are the one wrong from start you are the one who desperately wanted to get into films without thinking the consequences without seeing how much distance you created with your self because of this bloody goal. Because of this bloody goal all alone. In the end you didn't even get work on something meaningful you ruined your entire life yourself . you are the one who brought this suffering upon yourself " But then recently I realized that I have a passion for comic books. I wanted to learn and start working immediately but like you I'm starting at 25 so I thought of all things the only thing that keeps coming to my mind is I'm already regretting my entire life I lived up until now but if this is wrong step can i take it and live with that regret. I'm so confused for the last couple of days I'm crying I was talking to my friends trying to feel better but nothing really worked. You don't know how much important this video to me I just feel better now because your situation felt so familiar to me. I don't know what I will be or what I want to be or in the worst case scenario I might be nothing too but thank you for making me feel better with a video like this in my rough time.

    • @ElsaCharretierChannel
      @ElsaCharretierChannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Breaking into creative industries is extremely hard- when we look at success stories, we tend to forget that maybe 1 out of 1000 hardworking artists makes it (probably a lot less than that, actually), regardless of talent. Like you said, when we're obsessed by a "goal" it's easy to see we're only failing to get there. Maybe what can help is focusing on your craft, of the joy it provides you to simple write, draw, and create? Regardless of whether you can make a living out of it right now. It can still be your long-term goal, but rediscover your love for creation without financial or career purpose could help you get over this difficult period. You're lucky to be a comics lover, it's much easier to create comics on your own than it is to produce movies ;)
      Good luck with everything, Sanath and thank you for your very sweet message.

  • @gonzalocarrero3743
    @gonzalocarrero3743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you Elsa! Your videos are gold.

  • @radiak55
    @radiak55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So glad to have discovered this channel

  • @BrunoM-web
    @BrunoM-web 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    une super lecon :) merci pour ce témoignage Elsa!!

  • @jontnoneya3404
    @jontnoneya3404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fascinating! I love it but I would have liked much more detail. haha
    I LOVE stories like yours. Starting later in life and taking unconventional routes.
    It's so awesome! Thanks for sharing your story with us.

  • @hallisb
    @hallisb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is both incredibly inspirational and demoralizing haha. I can't believe you started drawing at 25 and you're this good! Well done, hopefully I with my lifetime of drawing and years of art school education can get to that level too.

  • @fernandohuereca6350
    @fernandohuereca6350 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It feels like this was exactly what I needed to hear

  • @vidaenagonia-cl
    @vidaenagonia-cl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the story Ms. Elsa! as an aspiring comic book writer, there is a part of me that often wonders if could truly "make it" into the industry but all the stories about artist enduring and achieving it make my not want to give up and pursue that dream :D

  • @ClarenceDass
    @ClarenceDass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so inspiring to me. I'm 39 and I'm only just trying to be a comic artist. I've done some fan comics and short stories of my own and I'm trying to get much drawing practice as I can. I'm self taught, but I also try to do courses online, mostly stuff for anatomy and perspective.
    If I Please may ask, when you started of learning and figuring out how to draw, what were the areas you focused on? Anatomy? Layout?

  • @pet4g
    @pet4g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is quite inspiring. It's never too late to be good at something, all depends on how much you want it and willing to spend time on it. I like your story a lot and I'm thankful you found your passion in comics and drawing. You've become one of my favorite artists.

  • @cyberpunkholiday
    @cyberpunkholiday 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just stumbled onto your channel and I’m glad I did. Thanks for the stories! 🙏

  • @phelipegoncalves9355
    @phelipegoncalves9355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What an amazing story! As a huge X-Men fan, I loved your Domino and your story has similarities with an X-Men legend, because Claremont was also trying to be an actor when he started in comics. Keep up the good work! Props from Brazil.

  • @maxnemeth5412
    @maxnemeth5412 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    honestly, hearing you say you started at 25 really makes me feel better about my decision to do the same.

  • @saultoons
    @saultoons 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting video Elsa, thanks for sharing your journey.
    I've considered many times stopping art, but my stubborn attitude has so far gotten me through.
    I did the same thing as you, moving back into my parent's house, and now In the grind, I have seen some success, so I will see how it goes :)

  • @Subviolaceus
    @Subviolaceus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing your story. Love that Domino page!

  • @felixflitou
    @felixflitou 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    C'est tellement motivant comme vidéo. En temps que jeune artiste qui veut se lancer dans le comics je trouve ton travail super inspirant, ça donne envie de se surpasser !

  • @CreativeSteve69
    @CreativeSteve69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this video. I always loved doing art but took a break last year. Watching this was highly motivating to get back into physical art thanks so much. Earned a sub.

  • @Mindfookfilms
    @Mindfookfilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible story. Thank you for sharing.

  • @DennisCNolasco
    @DennisCNolasco 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic. Elsa, you're such an inspiration for me to do freelance illustration.

  • @dddthalles
    @dddthalles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and insights! I stopped drawing when I was 12 and got back when I was 21, determined to work in illustration and to make comics. Now, I'm 24 and still struggling with it, so this video really helped. Would love to see more videos like that, maybe about the schedule you had at the time you were learning how to draw, the books you used, stuff like that... Thanks for your work!

  • @kylehiggins4352
    @kylehiggins4352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this, Elsa!

  • @DeadpoolAli
    @DeadpoolAli 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so great. Can you talk more about your first comic infinite loop? Things like the pitch pages etc? And what they are looking for?

  • @francoismahr
    @francoismahr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We art not the same age (I am 41) but in some ways I can relate with what you have been through. At the moment I give myself two months, starting from june, to set up some documents I can send to publishers (script, character design, and three pages of my future comic book), I give it a try. I have been working as an architect for 16 years now, and I feel I am at this turning point. Let's see what comes next. It was great to hear your story and how you manage it. Thanks for sharing your journey. By the way hot is it in the US when you want to get published same as in France? Ciao

  • @ryanmartinson8405
    @ryanmartinson8405 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Inspiring and encouraging... thanks for sharing your story!!

  • @debanshmishra7154
    @debanshmishra7154 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video as always guys!❤️ And extremely enlightening and helpful for younger aspiring artists like me so thank you so much for making these amazing videos!

  • @Chandasouk
    @Chandasouk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for your upcoming interview with Near Mint Condition!

  • @AlecArtComics
    @AlecArtComics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Channel! Very Informative!

  • @Pedro-S1lva
    @Pedro-S1lva 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love this channel

  • @erezasken5744
    @erezasken5744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I always get tricked into thinking I’m watching something about EC comics during the intro

  • @thomasrome7817
    @thomasrome7817 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    God damn this is inspirational !

  • @francisjudge
    @francisjudge 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Elsa, please tell me, what pen are you using in this video? its awesome

  • @pedrojesusperaltalopez6861
    @pedrojesusperaltalopez6861 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would also like some review of Jim Lee of a comic strip of him

  • @pedrojesusperaltalopez6861
    @pedrojesusperaltalopez6861 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love for him to analyze the narration of a comic by Andy Kubert because he, like his family, is dedicated to Comic since they have a school where the profession of comic illustrator is studied. The school is called Joe kubert school, it would be like checking if his narration can be made more varied and checking if they really are excellent illustrators, greetings Elsa Charretier from Pedro Jesús Peralta López from mexicali, Baja California Mexico

  • @joshuagraham2843
    @joshuagraham2843 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    whoa she’s so complex

  • @synakhacan2073
    @synakhacan2073 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Je suit ton travail depuis la campagne de financement d'infinite loop. Mais j'ignorais complètement ton parcours artistique qui est complétement fou, irréaliste même. Apprendre à dessiner en si peu de temps ca parait dingue. J'ai un parcours un peu similaire et je n'ai repris le dessin qu'à 33 ans après des années "d'errance" professionnel où je ne dessinais plus, j'en ai 39 aujourd'hui et j'ai accompli pas mal de choses dont je ne me pensais plus capable, au point d'autoéditer mon propre comics, mais je reste baba et admiratif de ton histoire.

    • @ElsaCharretierChannel
      @ElsaCharretierChannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bravo à toi ! Une bonne partie du travail quand tu démarres à un âge avancé, c'est de faire confiance en ta capacité à réussir dans une voie pas classique.

  • @BaptisteGavalda
    @BaptisteGavalda 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    C'était osé de le contacter comme ça ^^

  • @stickybonez
    @stickybonez ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been pursuing animation since I was 18 (Graduated at 22) and have made little progress but are slowly gaining connections and a progressively better portfolio. Should I consider the sunk cost fallacy or keep going? I'm 23 so I'm pretty much the same age you were when you decided to go in a different direction career-wise. I've been exploring a career in storyboarding on the side. Do you mind if I ask for some advice? I loved the video and thank you for sharing your story!

    • @ElsaCharretierChannel
      @ElsaCharretierChannel  ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish I could tell you what to do but the solution lies within you. Do you still have a burning passion for animation? Mine for acting had died down but I was persevering because I didn't know what else to do, so ultimately it wasn't that hard of a choice to make. You only graduated a year ago, I wouldn't worry just yet (keep in mind I had been at it for about 6-7 years). Building connections take a lot of time and (active) effort. See how far you can get with animation if you still love it!

    • @stickybonez
      @stickybonez ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElsaCharretierChannel Thanks! Recently a veteran animator of 10 years has reached out and offered to tutor me and help me find work in the industry. I'm definitely getting there, but after reading your comment I'm not sure. I'm just scared for my future. I'm currently working towards getting a job in rigged puppet animation. However I'm more passionate about traditional frame by frame animation, but there's not much work in it currently and I'm not improving as fast as I'd like.

  • @kevincruz7958
    @kevincruz7958 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can relate. I'm learning how to write at 31

  • @te9591
    @te9591 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would say that your success has come from networking with people who ACTUALLY have connections in the industry.

  • @eduardoteixeira2479
    @eduardoteixeira2479 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful story, Elsa! However, I am curious about one thing: why go to the US when you already had a rich comics industry in your home country?

    • @ElsaCharretierChannel
      @ElsaCharretierChannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The French industry is entirely different than the US industry, and not in a good way. It's extremely hard to make a living of it here, most creators live under the poverty line. The industry favors publishers on all levels. Some go indie and succeed, though!

    • @eduardoteixeira2479
      @eduardoteixeira2479 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your reply, Elsa. I heard it was bad before, but I had no idea it was "under the poverty line" bad. What a sad state of affairs! I suppose competition to be published is fierce among artists and publishers take advantage of it, getting a bigger pie of the cake than they deserve. Anyway continue your good work, I love your videos. Let me give a suggestion to you: in a few years, when you reach "godmother of comics" status, I would love to see an european analogue to Naoki Urasawa's Manben (if you are not familiarized with it, check it, I am pretty sure you will find it extremely interesting), maybe in a partneship with a french/belgian channel. I don't know anyone better to do it than you. :-)

  • @JuanMartinez-tx5bh
    @JuanMartinez-tx5bh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do you read manga ? And if you do I recommend chainsaw man the art is 👌🏼

  • @thomasgreissfan17
    @thomasgreissfan17 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Does anybody know the name of this brush pen?

  • @SerilaBuck
    @SerilaBuck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    do you find your acting background help you in drawing ?

  • @roguegallery7519
    @roguegallery7519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dont worry, all the things your not suppose to do in drawing are the only things profesional draw craftmen and painters do 😉

  • @kaesebrot4811
    @kaesebrot4811 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know the pen model used until min 3 ?

  • @philipebbrell2793
    @philipebbrell2793 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is similar to Jessica Martin's career. She discovered Alice in Sunderland. Then finding a professional artist to talk to and who mentor her. Being in the right place at the right time, is it fate or perservance? I have wondered if I missed the opportunity, by not seeing it, in front of me.

  • @terrencecoccoli524
    @terrencecoccoli524 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Can you learn how to draw in 2 weeks?” 😀😂😅

  • @gavinvales8928
    @gavinvales8928 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that didn't feel like 8 minutes

  • @johnlittle7473
    @johnlittle7473 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good god, now I'm even more depressed about comics, if that's even possible. - guy who has spent literally his entire life drawing and has just made the decision to leave the comics industry after 14+ years as a colorist because he can no longer survive on less than minimum wage

    • @johnlittle7473
      @johnlittle7473 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But she's right about the sunk costs fallacy - you need to know when it's over. That's important. There's always another challenge out there waiting for new takers!

  • @wm6549
    @wm6549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm sure being a white woman helped, too.

    • @trex19681
      @trex19681 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Congratulations. You win for stupidest comment.

  • @mauriciokilo
    @mauriciokilo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, you learned how to draw in 2 weeks and you dont see yourself as a gifted person?
    And had a professional aid to get better. And friends inside the market to rely on.
    Cool.

  • @roguegallery7519
    @roguegallery7519 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Want to learn how to act? Learn how to draw (you have already master it, good job👍) AND learn how to write. Start with shortcuts for you and familly, play with your strengts (what role fits you best in what story?) and avoid weaknesses at the begining. That would get you somewhere (for your own independent projects, the industry is more focused on saving themselves, theyre afraid of their dark side being exposed, thats why they do weird shit like canceling SnowWhite?).

    • @JTR_3
      @JTR_3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t understand what you’re trying to say

    • @roguegallery7519
      @roguegallery7519 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JTR_3 is this your channel? I thought i subscribed to a different channel.

    • @JTR_3
      @JTR_3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@roguegallery7519 ???