I think Lowko didn't understand this mutator still. This blobs just go over any of your unit/building destoying it and creating a 1 additional blob from it that can do same shit. So the wall at your ramp will just give them more numbers, but don't delay them
Lowko, here is a small tip for raynor: If you place the rallypoint of your barracks right onto the stones of your first base, they will automatically start attacking it when they spawn. Also, if you play together with swann, he can build you tech-reactors for your barracks.
I think someone has been reading my Reddit posts. :B Tips: - RULE NUMBER ONE as Raynor: ALWAYS transform your Command Center into an Orbital as soon as possible. - RIGHT CLICK on replenish spider mine to put it on autocast. - CC first is totally safe on this map. Use Dusk Wings to kill rocks after killing the first propagator. - Making heavy use of the Hyperion and Dusk Wings in the early game will allow you to be extremely greedy this game. Don't worry about trying to get early Marines. They just delay your economy. - If you rally your Barracks to your rocks, the Marines will automatically shoot at it as soon as they land. - 6 Orbitals will allow you to get a whole lot of minerals for Marines and Mines, without mining out your base completely until the game ends. - The reason mass mines didn't seem that strong before is because you probably used them against an air-based composition. You need to see what kind of units you are playing against. Also you need a lot of MULEs to make it affordable. - You didn't need to kill that one Vulture. You could have just dropped a single MULE at the lock and it would claim it too.
That rapid fire though! I AM SO SO SO SO SO SO SO HAPPY i watched your hotkey and setup video before I started playing SC2, by far the best thing I've done in my life.
"Lowko, read the description". They do not spawn in hordes. By attacking your units they turn them into copies of themselves thus creating more propagators :) Also, the minimap awareness! The dude, who dislikes the video as soon as it is released, GET A LIFE! :D
Lowko! if you rally your barracks units onto the destructible rocks they automatically begin attacking, no need to micro them to attack the rocks. Love your vids man, keep them coming!
Suddenly I'm really glad I have the GBA emulator and Metroid Fusion ROM. X parasite was my first thought when I learned about these freaks. And yes, Raynor and his "Classic piece of engineering" was the MVP when I tried this one.
Well, I was kinda worried, that when SC:Remastered comes out, Lowko might don't get the gist of terran race. But now, after "Let's build as much Vultures as possible to spam spidermines non-stop!"... Yeah, he already got it.
I remember doing mass vulture when Coop was released, was super fun on the train map, just spamming mines in 1 spot and waiting for the train. Oneshot even on brutal. First commander I got to 15, because it was so much fun lol
Only a few minutes in but think of propagators as zombies. If they kill something they will become infected and become that thing so if a propagator kills 8 marines or scvs you then have 9 propagators to kill (not 1 propagator and 8 scvs).
Didn't get that because I don't know star trek but was pointing it out because he seemed to think they took the units or buildings and not that the things they take change.
This mission can get out of control suuper fast. Played this mission with a friend, and he accidentally got a bit too close to one of them with his Marine-Ball und we just got overrun within seconds. I really love the Mutators tho. Adds a little new spice to coop each week ! :)
Haha i broke my balls on this mission in the morning, seeing your entire base turn into blobs :P was funny and frustrating at once, managed to do it and now i see my favorite do it too, has been a good day :D GG Lowko
men now there are 4 commander zerg and 5 protoss we need one more commander terran like Valerian with units hero basic like abathur (leviathan and brutalisk) kerrigan and fenix only there 3 commander terran
Wow I got this mutator when the mutation was "random mutators" and I didnt know what to do. A whole wave of these blobs just came and took my whole base. I think I commited a big number of lings before I was able to realize that they spawn more units when they one shot mine. :D
"Stukov is my favorite commander, he's OP I finish every mission easily, lemme try this one. *5 minutes later* Oh hey, a blob, lemme send some 50 infested civilians at it *1 min later* WAIT A SEC WHY ARE THERE LIKE 5 BILLION BLOBS?!?!?!?!?"
These aliens coming from this week's mutations literally one shot everything. I went "WTF!" when one of those green changeling things insta killed my nexus.
Mines are one of those OP things in the sc1. That's why sc1 is regarded as best rts game. All races have really overpowered shit like zerg cloud and plaque. Bad part of the mass mine strategy is that one zergling can pull all of them to your army :D
That's not really anything like this mutator though, that would be like saying Dragoons are a reference to this: finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Dragoon_(Final_Fantasy_XI) which they aren't.
There are 2 upgrades for the vulture one is the 33% blast radius and the other allows you to make spider mines by pressing x when selecting a vulture which you never used.
uhh, did you know that you could make mines with vultures? the X ability, 15 minerals per mine and you can set it on autocast. Also, you need like 6 orbitals to properly afford 24 vultures on non-stop mine production and that should give you enough mines to fill the map (49 is overkill)
i have been asking for mass mine for ages, dude finially, they are so op, sometimes they make the hardest mutations easyer, and top of that its so much fun, and u forgot to put to autocast the mine retrain on your units
I played it as zagara(banelings) with raynor (vultures+marines).I just maxed out and sent all banelings in, I had drop for going up the ramps on right and top. Quite easy. I hoped to see yeu try few commanders on mutation missions.
Good mutation, fairly easy after the initial surprise from the new mutator. We got overwhelmed on the first try cuz of that but after that it was ez pz.
Hey, you know how on a recent low-league cast people were complaining about how bad it was? I'm getting a little of that. You tried to delay them like any other unit that you really don't want in your base, not like the entirely new threat it is. The mutator description seemed to make it pretty clear; touching one of your units or structures is instant death. You can't slow them with walls or by throwing units in their path; that just makes the problem worse. What you need is ranged damage and stagger stepping. You are an experienced player, and normally this is an asset. This time, however, it was a bad thing because you thought of the new mutator like something you have already faced when it was- by _design-_ something new you must tailor your strategy against.
Not sure how it works in the Netherlands, but in the US, working overtime means an increased pay rate, usually a time and a half of normal pay. So SCVs like overtime because that means they're makin' hella bank.
+Definetly Not A Gamer: imagine that Blizzard heard you and than the next patch allows you both to go the same commander. You and your friend go both as Raynor, full mine-build... and you end up against Skytoss :)))
Lowko is walling off, and I'm looking at this like "what?" Like, it seems the props get a single unit, they clone themselves from that building or unit's carcass. Any buildings should be as far away from them as possible since they just take em. But damn they are cool.
Does lowko have any videos on zerg strats against different kinds of terran plays? I haven't been able to find very many and I lose about 80% of the time I play terran
An enemy infestasion is a cool idea, but I think they need to excecute it better. This seems to be fairly easy to defend when you get the idea on whats happening. If they want to use blobs for this just think about the mission Temple of the Past and drop podding blobs xD Imo a new mission based around these things would work much better.
do propagators convert units even if they can't detect them? Like if you send Dark Templars to kill them? I have only really tried like 1 or 2 mutations but not this one so...
Is there an option in SC2 to quickcast abilities? (instead of clicking the ability and then left click on the unit you wanna use it on, quickcast in other games makes you just use the ability by simply hovering over the target and pressing the button to cast it). I'm trying to beat the campaign on brutal and the inability to quickcast in this game is making it really difficult :/
nice one, do you think if Zagara work with full baneling build?, I just hope that they explote before turn into enemies XD Update: Zagara works like a charm! just sit and relax with banelings
Perfect strategy, They kill everything by simply touching it .. Lowko - "Let me build all my buildings right here in front"
"A ton of little units"
Just Lowko things.
thats why we love lowko^^
He will build a great wall and no one builds walls better than him.
Fun fact: in portuguese, Lowko (written: Louco) means crazy.
Quite similiar to spanish "Loco".
I think Lowko didn't understand this mutator still. This blobs just go over any of your unit/building destoying it and creating a 1 additional blob from it that can do same shit. So the wall at your ramp will just give them more numbers, but don't delay them
Валентин Жарков Ikr... I understood it within like the first minute... He's throwing gasoline at a fire haha XD
Валентин Жарков lol imagine using mass zerglings against propigators
Yeah.... you should just have enough units with vision to take them down before they hit. Not hard really.
no offense, but Lowko doesn't get it usually, I like his content and stream but he doesn't understand mutators.
imagine stukov
Lowko, here is a small tip for raynor: If you place the rallypoint of your barracks right onto the stones of your first base, they will automatically start attacking it when they spawn. Also, if you play together with swann, he can build you tech-reactors for your barracks.
"Ton of little units"
At least you didnt pick Stukov...
I think someone has been reading my Reddit posts. :B Tips:
- RULE NUMBER ONE as Raynor: ALWAYS transform your Command Center into an Orbital as soon as possible.
- RIGHT CLICK on replenish spider mine to put it on autocast.
- CC first is totally safe on this map. Use Dusk Wings to kill rocks after killing the first propagator.
- Making heavy use of the Hyperion and Dusk Wings in the early game will allow you to be extremely greedy this game. Don't worry about trying to get early Marines. They just delay your economy.
- If you rally your Barracks to your rocks, the Marines will automatically shoot at it as soon as they land.
- 6 Orbitals will allow you to get a whole lot of minerals for Marines and Mines, without mining out your base completely until the game ends.
- The reason mass mines didn't seem that strong before is because you probably used them against an air-based composition. You need to see what kind of units you are playing against. Also you need a lot of MULEs to make it affordable.
- You didn't need to kill that one Vulture. You could have just dropped a single MULE at the lock and it would claim it too.
I see you on like every mutation video dude. Great tips helped me finish some mutations I was struggling with. Thanks!
Hammurabi the awesome You should check out his channel! Every early Monday morning, he will post the weekly mutation.
I played probably with the same guy on normal and hard, he played Raynor with spider mines and I played as Kharax
Awesome work as always CTG.
wait...mine replenishment can be put on autocast?? fuck me...
Azure(being smart)"No noo they'll take these 2!"
Lowko(who payed almost no attention to the description)"Nah that's fine, just a depot!"
That rapid fire though! I AM SO SO SO SO SO SO SO HAPPY i watched your hotkey and setup video before I started playing SC2, by far the best thing I've done in my life.
It definitely makes the game easier!
"Lowko, read the description". They do not spawn in hordes. By attacking your units they turn them into copies of themselves thus creating more propagators :) Also, the minimap awareness!
The dude, who dislikes the video as soon as it is released, GET A LIFE! :D
I'm practically screaming at the screen. "Look at your minimap! LOOK AT IT!"
seeing those propagators devour your stuff was incredibly satisfying
Less "Hey you can beat this with Vultures alone" and more "Hey my ally is so good he can carry me even when I'm building Vultures alone"
This mutation triggered my Anxiety so hard. You couldn't hear my panic through the internets as they got towards your stuff
Lowko! if you rally your barracks units onto the destructible rocks they automatically begin attacking, no need to micro them to attack the rocks.
Love your vids man, keep them coming!
Suddenly I'm really glad I have the GBA emulator and Metroid Fusion ROM. X parasite was my first thought when I learned about these freaks.
And yes, Raynor and his "Classic piece of engineering" was the MVP when I tried this one.
I'm always pleased as punch to see the mutation become OP on the first slip up lol
Well, I was kinda worried, that when SC:Remastered comes out, Lowko might don't get the gist of terran race. But now, after "Let's build as much Vultures as possible to spam spidermines non-stop!"... Yeah, he already got it.
I remember doing mass vulture when Coop was released, was super fun on the train map, just spamming mines in 1 spot and waiting for the train. Oneshot even on brutal.
First commander I got to 15, because it was so much fun lol
Only a few minutes in but think of propagators as zombies. If they kill something they will become infected and become that thing so if a propagator kills 8 marines or scvs you then have 9 propagators to kill (not 1 propagator and 8 scvs).
Actually, the name of the mutation as well as the behavior is a clear reference to the Borg from Star Trek.
Didn't get that because I don't know star trek but was pointing it out because he seemed to think they took the units or buildings and not that the things they take change.
Oh okay. Yeah, you're right. Lowko got that part wrong from the description.
they don't even need to kill. just touch ^^
This mission can get out of control suuper fast. Played this mission with a friend, and he accidentally got a bit too close to one of them with his Marine-Ball und we just got overrun within seconds.
I really love the Mutators tho. Adds a little new spice to coop each week ! :)
Haha i broke my balls on this mission in the morning, seeing your entire base turn into blobs :P was funny and frustrating at once, managed to do it and now i see my favorite do it too, has been a good day :D
GG Lowko
Zagara + Stukov combo would be interesting on this mutation.
i believe the term is fail
How bout nay...
So many games there are, but it shows that there is a lot of competition.
I bet the next hero to be released will be Dehaka
Jong Park oh man that would be so cool!!
That'd be amazing.
Primal zerg boys!
men now there are 4 commander zerg and 5 protoss we need one more commander terran like Valerian with units hero basic like abathur (leviathan and brutalisk) kerrigan and fenix only there 3 commander terran
Jong Park I'm thinking zeratul
Wow I got this mutator when the mutation was "random mutators" and I didnt know what to do. A whole wave of these blobs just came and took my whole base. I think I commited a big number of lings before I was able to realize that they spawn more units when they one shot mine. :D
Someone tries to do mutation as Stukov.xD
"sooo, all my troops just turned into hostile shapeless blobs..." yea, that's wouldn't be so nice XD
You've got me wanting to try that now. I think a mech based Stukov army could do just fine.
Skai1013
Diamond backs with their sludge passive and fire while moving is incredible. Same with swann cyclones
"Stukov is my favorite commander, he's OP I finish every mission easily, lemme try this one.
*5 minutes later*
Oh hey, a blob, lemme send some 50 infested civilians at it
*1 min later*
WAIT A SEC WHY ARE THERE LIKE 5 BILLION BLOBS?!?!?!?!?"
i won with stukov on hard (my average)
just because everyone plays him in one way, doesn't mean it's the only way
These aliens coming from this week's mutations literally one shot everything. I went "WTF!" when one of those green changeling things insta killed my nexus.
Mines are one of those OP things in the sc1. That's why sc1 is regarded as best rts game. All races have really overpowered shit like zerg cloud and plaque. Bad part of the mass mine strategy is that one zergling can pull all of them to your army :D
Old school! Haha taking it back! Vultures and Goliaths.
Lowko says look at that, and immediately changes the screen to somewhere else xD
That Final Fantasy 8 reference in the mutators though! :D
Its also from FF8 finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Propagator_(Final_Fantasy_VIII)
That's not really anything like this mutator though, that would be like saying Dragoons are a reference to this: finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Dragoon_(Final_Fantasy_XI) which they aren't.
I used Zagara and banelings to quickly get rid of the mutators. You have to keep an eye on the minimap all the time though!
Very tough mission! :)
Beware! People below thinks they are numbers!!!
nice one, that actually made me laugh
Vladyslav Averyanov Nice one, and original too.
I remember times when people were mad to be thought of as just numbers! nowadays....
There are 2 upgrades for the vulture one is the 33% blast radius and the other allows you to make spider mines by pressing x when selecting a vulture which you never used.
You can rally your barracks to attack the rocks, so that way you don't have to manually control the marines.
In this mutator the most important thing is to do is defend SCVs cause the Propogators just multiply.
uhh, did you know that you could make mines with vultures? the X ability, 15 minerals per mine and you can set it on autocast.
Also, you need like 6 orbitals to properly afford 24 vultures on non-stop mine production and that should give you enough mines to fill the map (49 is overkill)
Nova is good too since Nova's tanks can also deploys mines.
i have been asking for mass mine for ages, dude finially, they are so op, sometimes they make the hardest mutations easyer, and top of that its so much fun, and u forgot to put to autocast the mine retrain on your units
so this is why everyone is crazy about mass mines in coop chat.
I played it as zagara(banelings) with raynor (vultures+marines).I just maxed out and sent all banelings in, I had drop for going up the ramps on right and top. Quite easy. I hoped to see yeu try few commanders on mutation missions.
Good mutation, fairly easy after the initial surprise from the new mutator.
We got overwhelmed on the first try cuz of that but after that it was ez pz.
Hey lowko, try this mutation with artanis and raynor. Somebody finished it within 5-6mins
That's a drop unit exploit. Someone does that during every Lock and Load mutation and posts a vid.
32:13 I was not screaming but yah I was like you can recharge the mines whit a resch now you will need the vulture to die to get more mines.
And you can also make some medics to heal them. There is a upgrade for his medics to heal mech, so worth to make some.
Sure but he did a chalenge whit only Vulture so no medic could heal them...
Hey, you know how on a recent low-league cast people were complaining about how bad it was?
I'm getting a little of that.
You tried to delay them like any other unit that you really don't want in your base, not like the entirely new threat it is. The mutator description seemed to make it pretty clear; touching one of your units or structures is instant death. You can't slow them with walls or by throwing units in their path; that just makes the problem worse. What you need is ranged damage and stagger stepping.
You are an experienced player, and normally this is an asset. This time, however, it was a bad thing because you thought of the new mutator like something you have already faced when it was- by _design-_ something new you must tailor your strategy against.
Lowko, Raynor + Artanis cheese = 6 mins mutator :P
First time I tried this mutation I leaped Kerry into 1 and cried lol. I finally did it was zagara and mass banes
Not sure how it works in the Netherlands, but in the US, working overtime means an increased pay rate, usually a time and a half of normal pay. So SCVs like overtime because that means they're makin' hella bank.
LOL, no SCVs or other races workers work enough 8 hours or more to be entitled as working overtime.
5:10 Is it just me who has never heard Nova say that? And I have played Nova through to mastery.
never heard it
you probably even know this but Terran in sc1 is sometimes considered OP because of vulture's spidermines
Luckily there's no «moment of silence» (or whatever) to prevent you from massing mines here.
Imagine you could both go Reynor and both mass volture...
Party time!!!!!!
if only it was possible to play same commander both players :(. So many fun things co-op could happen :O
'Fraid not- can't both be the same commander. However! Nova siege tanks can mine things up too, so it's still an amusing massing possibility.
You can go Raynor and Nova since Nova's siege tanks also has mines.
+Definetly Not A Gamer: imagine that Blizzard heard you and than the next patch allows you both to go the same commander. You and your friend go both as Raynor, full mine-build... and you end up against Skytoss :)))
Double Stukov would cause serious lag issues.
notification made me wake up on 3a.m. early morning zzz
lowko you can rally on rocks :D marines will auto attack
+Chase Yuan Wow! Did not know that. Solid suggestion.
HOLY F***!!!!!! SOMETHING LOWKO DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT STARCRAFT!!!!!!
what do i do with my life now...
LowkoTV you can also regenerate spider mines for 10 a pop i think. it was your x hotkey.
The enemy survivors now have ptsd and only dare travel by jetpack. :)
Raynor and Artanis
Yo lowko. Please try a mass lurker in this mutation. Thanks
Lowko is walling off, and I'm looking at this like "what?" Like, it seems the props get a single unit, they clone themselves from that building or unit's carcass. Any buildings should be as far away from them as possible since they just take em. But damn they are cool.
Vorazun oracles with stasis ward and the stasis ward upgrade + void ray works well too in this mission.
for me Nova was best. Fenix was doing almost all things, and I was cleaning all this blobs. just snipe it
In one of the tutorial Corporal Faraday says "they [SCV] think they get paid for overtime" or something like this
Lowko did you know you can use medics to heal your mech as Raynor? makes vultures so much more OP
Vultures?, noe thats a unit i haven't seen in a long time
Swann best Mutator confirmed! Kappa
Does lowko have any videos on zerg strats against different kinds of terran plays? I haven't been able to find very many and I lose about 80% of the time I play terran
Excited for overtime because they are blue collar and get 2x pay or more for all of the overtime.
artanis is also extremely good because a high enough number of tempests can one shot a propogator.
I guess Karax' or Fenix' Carriers would work like a charm too.
Karax as well is very guuuuud in this map.
An enemy infestasion is a cool idea, but I think they need to excecute it better. This seems to be fairly easy to defend when you get the idea on whats happening.
If they want to use blobs for this just think about the mission Temple of the Past and drop podding blobs xD
Imo a new mission based around these things would work much better.
That certainly would be cool. Dead of Night is a little like that, but this feels far more overwhelming when you don't deal with it effectively.
+LowkoTV Dead of Night indeed is a little like this idea, but blobs having a new mechanic of killing you so I wouldnt expect that to be a problem.
do propagators convert units even if they can't detect them? Like if you send Dark Templars to kill them? I have only really tried like 1 or 2 mutations but not this one so...
I crapped my pants when I saw those things just swallowed my Hyperion. ; ~;
Vorazun+Karax works like a charm
wow he really did not understand how the changelings work. :'D
7:34 I mean, there was one, but it hit all your SCVs, cc, and supply depots and just multiplied xD
Is there an option in SC2 to quickcast abilities? (instead of clicking the ability and then left click on the unit you wanna use it on, quickcast in other games makes you just use the ability by simply hovering over the target and pressing the button to cast it). I'm trying to beat the campaign on brutal and the inability to quickcast in this game is making it really difficult :/
Tried it, seems like just mass vultures and forget about everything else makes the game darn easy.
I wonder would artanis guardian shield from the propagators attack and leave at 1 hp
Lowko mention about cheese in the end of video. I heard Raynor/Artanis cheese on this map has been patched already. It's still working ?
25:05 If you do this all the time, can you please add them to your videos each week?
Sure! Definitely can do.
What is that little crawly thing?
Suggestion. Better defense with planetary for these kinds of mission.
Hey, Lowko if i buy Star Craft Heart of the Swarm (cus it's cheaper than Legacy of the Void) can i play the latest updates from Legacy of the Void ?
In my opinion, is Karax the strongest one for this mutation
You should play Mass Recall for Starcraft 2
I think I remember him saying somewhere that he would after he finishes warcraft 3.
love zerg music :D
Wouldn't mass air also work well?
As long as the opposition isn't zerg, it should be easy
Chang Musty
Zerg was pretty easy to beat. Especially roach ravaged hydra when you mass tempests (very rarely get slowed)
Swan disapprove of Vultures.
On the thumbnail, why is Raynor holding a fish?
anyone else yelling at him to look at the mini map?
I thought Artanis with Tempest and Dragoons was pretty good on this one too.
nice one, do you think if Zagara work with full baneling build?, I just hope that they explote before turn into enemies XD
Update: Zagara works like a charm! just sit and relax with banelings
20:06 rip blue terran units, you got all your color drained. =(
9:30 marienes & marauders gota love em
Lowko, Jeez, why do you open with a suply first?
what do you recommend?
Edmund Woo To delay the supply and build a baracks fisrt and more SCVs beacuse the build time for the supply is so short
Just because we can (c) Lowko in every game
I open with a Supply Depot first too, but I follow with a CC to optimize my economy.
You can build a barracks first before the depo? Didn't know that. Does it work only in co-op?
can you imagine if they took the apocolisk? lol
the propagators arent the biggest problem actually, that slow from being damaged lasts way too long
CreeperMajesty
The problem is if you want to run away from them, the time rifts and slow will kill you.
Zaxton Hong the propagators are only a problem if you dont watch the minimap, with some kiting they are completely useless
8:14 Nova has better siege tanks... Granted the cooldown sucks, but just straight up power? Nova's are better.
Raiders Roll ! ! !
maybe floating buildings for tank vision fits better.
+Junn Kit Wong That's actually really smart. I have no idea if they would take that one as well.
They hit flying units; I don't think flying buildings would be an exception.
oh didnt know about that, after they take over the flying building, they start flying ? =P
6:40 donald trump, is it you?
No The darkest dungeon today :(
Mass monoliths