The worst mentor......Achilles in Assassin's Creed Rogue is one. I mean, this guy didn't listen to Shay's warnings. But in Assassin's Creed 3, he changed.
@ChibiYesi857a to be fair Shay didn't either so I'm pretty sure most players me included were thinking the same as Shay that we didn't want to kill him
Shay really didn't give many warnings nor did he try his hardest to give them his report. He turned his back on them rather quickly and it felt more like he just wanted a reason to leave.
He may not be from the games, but one of the worst Mentors imo is Xiao Han from the recent Forgotten Temple webtoon. Not only did he fail to prevent the Chinese Brotherhood from being purged, undoing all of Shao Jun's work centuries prior, but his solution is to find a Piece of Eden and use it to overthrow the entire Qing dynasty. It's a plan so nuts even Edward had to step in and try to stop him. Oh, and he also has no issue allowing innocents to die to further his goals. So yeah, Xiao Han is not only one of the worst Mentors ever, but one of the worst Assassins period.
And Sergei from Russia, who tried to kill a orphan girl and the son of the Assassin who saved the orphan girl. (I think the son don't haved even 10 years in that time)
For me, I understood what Xiao Han’s intentions. The Qing Dynasty was pretty oppressive towards the Han Chinese, and there were many groups such as the White Lotus and the Tiandihui who fought for a new dynasty. However, Xiao Han became so dedicated to eradicating the Qing that he forgot the very Creed itself, making him the same level as the Qing or a Templar. Though the story of him of “Overthrowing the Qing and restoring the Ming” continues, it is still important to remember, “those who fight monsters must not become monsters themselves.”
Worst Mentors of Assassins (personal rankings) - 1. Al - Mualim - Traitor to the basic tenets and the very core of Assassin's Creed. 2. Abbas - Traitor to the basic tenets of the Creed, traitor to the Levantine Brotherhood and narcissistic bastard. 3. Agate - Traitor to the Louisiana Brotherhood who preferred his secrets over the Creed. 4. Mirabeau - Extremely weak and complacent who allowed Templar operations in Paris rather than limiting their influence.
@@speedhog58 Bellec ? No. Taking down the entire top echelon of the Brotherhood right when all surveillance into Templar activities was lost ? Bloody insane. Bellec had become a mad, unable to see the truth properly, if at all. But Bellec was right in saying that Mirabeau was too busy playing politics than being an Assassin. He was content with the Templars infiltrating the French top echelon, while people like Altair and Ezio would have taken every measure to stop them from doing so.
I definitely agree with your choice. Especially because I finished playing the game for the first time last night. I’d be interested in an Al Mualim prequel game
@@BrysonS-l2e ottoman constantinople (in revelations) was entirely different than byzantine constantiniople as there is a 500+ years difference between revelations and mirage
@@alibhabha82179that would be cool but for the same reason that they wouldn’t make another different game in Jerusalem they wouldn’t make another game in Constantinople.
The book Assassin’s Creed The Golden City is really good. There you could read from Hytham’s perspective, but it also gives some pretty cool showing in Basim’s capabilities.
i doubt we will ever get a multi game Protagonist, Ezio wouldnt be the "most fleshed out character" anymore, AC Nostalgia Diehards couldnt survive that xD
I definitely think Al Mualim wasn't the worst for most of his 30 years as mentor. He taught Altair, who was the best. He had really good Master Assassins under him. Sure, his betrayal was probably the worst... but overall I don't think we can say his legacy was that terrible.
In the book secret crusade al Mualin said to young Altair to never reveal how Abas father died because he didn't want the world to know that the father of Abas died a shameful death
Reminds me of Spiderman 2002 when Peter couldn't tell Harry the truth about his father being the Green Goblin and it leading to his death because of the promise Peter/Spiderman made to Harry's dad, which in turn made Harry blame and try to kill Spiderman.
For me, it would have to be Abbas. For al Mualim, he managed to keep the Assassins in line and did provide good lessons for Altair. Also, his motivations stemmed from the Apple's temptation and thinking he could end the Crusades. Abbas, however, only cared about his vendetta with Altair. Every action he took was out of spite towards Altair. He led the Assassins to become lazy and ignore their conflict with the Templars. Killed those that were close to Altair like one of his sons and Malik. And he carried this grudge for the entirety of his life. While the Assassins under his rule lost their respect for him, mocked him, and quickly turned on him when Altair returned.
You forgot about Sergei from Russia, he have some very villain mania of killing childs, he ordened to make some studies that torture and kill innocent people, even an 16 years old orphan girl, he even deserted Nicolaï for want to save her, he even follow Nicolaï to the middle of nothing and menaced ro kill his son for he return to job for the Assassin's, he is a very cruel Mentor.
Not gonna I think something should have been done about Mackandal, the Templars have an enforcer called The Black Cross, who makes sure Templars follow the rules set down by the Templar order. I think the Assassin's need something similar to make sure Mentors of the Brotherhood do the same and if they don't they should be removed.
Shay and his sons fill that role in the novels, taking orders from the Mentor's Council. In fact, that's actually what resulted in the fates of Mackandal, Avilin, and Conor.
Nice vid man, I hadn’t played liberations for that long so the fact that there are two mentors not one was news to me. Day 1 of leaving a positive comment on my favorite creators
For me the worst mentor is whoever lead Assassins in Britain during Assassin's Creed Syndicate. I mean to be such cowardly and allow templars to grow that strong in London, while ignoring Henry Green's warning about it's growing influence and not sending anyone untill Frye Twins went rogue.
The templars were strong in london due to the death of edward kenway by reginal birch, followed by the events of ac rogue where shay destroyed colonial assassin, which lead to haytham killing niko at the start of ac 3 who is one of edward close ally in the brotherhood. All of this 3 factors is the biggest reason why the templar took over london until syndicate happened. So you can say that all of this happened because reginal betrayed edward and killing him, if edward was still around the events of ac rogue could be prevented since he would visit both ade and achiless to talk some sense into them and haytham would never joined the templar in the first place.
Achilles in my opinion his decision to go after the precursor box got thousands killed, his arrogance lead the the demise of the colonial brotherhood, his failures allowed the templars to basically rule over the colonies until connor became a assassin, he made the assassins lose their way and fight for a goal that was different from which many assassins before him would go against and he runs the assassins went a "my way or the highway" way of thinking which if you go against him you are basically going against the assassins which would either get you kicked out or killed
Al - Mualim for not only betraying the Brotherhood but also crushing every potential trust in a Mentor for every player that played AC1 as the first game, like you said.
Achilles’s Brotherhood also involved dark actions such as poisoning New York’s population, working with bandits, attacking Colonel Monroe and his men despite there being a surrender, and flying flags with the Assassin symbol on them at their hideouts in New York. Sure these were more his students’ fault like Hope and Captain Louis-Joseph but Achilles let these events happen.
No one seems to be talking about the Mentor who destroyed an entire underground city and killed a lot of innocent civilians by smoke asphyxiation or fire just to MAYBE lure out one old fat ass. The Mentor who took assassination orders from a random teenager after one observation. The Mentor who cared more about his personal feelings towards vengeance than the safety of the world. (After already killing god knows how many people). And the Mentor who destroyed an entire harbor instead of sneaking out a city like, you know, an Assassin would.
Achilles had no reason to trust Shay. In the brief interactions they had, Shay always did his own thing and didn't care what others said. So when Shay says "Don't go searching precursor sites" means very little. Plus by the end of AC Rogue Achilles realised that Shay was right. Something he would have done much earlier if Shay hadn't betrayed the Creed. But Basim from Valhalla should be also in this conversation. Not having played Mirage, all I know about Basim is that he is searching for incarnations of Odin and the Hidden Ones are just a tool for him.
Altair wouldn't be the wise mentor he is if its not for Al Mualim. I kinda like how both Altair and Al Mualim switched role in the first game, Al Mualim reminded Altair of the Assassin's Creed (no pun intended) while in the end it is Al Mualim himself who lost the meaning of the creed and begin to do as he pleases. A hidden detail during Altair last hug with Darim you can see in the reflection in the puddle, he basically become the Al Mualim who never went astray.
Mentors like Al Mualim, Mackandal, Achilles and Abbas are why I advocate for a horizontally organized assassin brotherhood. Just like the assassin brotherhood of the catalonian anarchists of the spanish civil war in the 1930's were, with Ignacio Cardona and the like.
I would say either Al Mualim or Abbas. However, now that I think about it, Abbas became the man he is because Al Mualim told Altaïr to not tell Abbas the truth about his dad’s death, which he did anyways. And Al Mualim never confirmed nor denied the truth, causing Abbas’s hatred for Altaïr. Hell, in Revelations, Altaïr said that Abbas hated Al Mualim just as much as Altaïr. So had Al Mualim not committed these mistakes, then this domino effect would have never happened.
I think Achilles isn't one of the worse ones; yes if he did listen to Shaw in Rogue then the Colonial Brotherhood wouldn't have been wiped out or him crippled and broken. Connor did bring hope back to Achilles by bring the Brotherhood back to life during the Revolutionary War and he also did die happy knowing what Connor did for him. He wasn't just a mentor to Connor, but like a father to him. Connor never really knew Haytham and Achilles did so much for him; even gave him his son's name because Connor was like a son to him etc.
I strongly agree with the ending synopsis If Altair hadn't stopped Al Mualim at the end of AC1...then most if not all the other mentors on this list would have ever existed... Abbas has a slim chance if for some reason Al Mualim kept a mock version of the Creed in place and decided to use Abbas as a weak minded figurehead to keep order....and most likely brainwashed him to believe the new corrupt Creed's tenets Other then that, the other characters may well have never been born...or at the very least would never have been part of the Brotherhood...let alone a Mentor
Achilles was the worst ngl. I'm gonna say a lot ot things that happend bc Aquiles refused to listen. - Destroyed a lot of places - Didn't listen to Shay when he told him that taking those relics would lead to disaster - Made Shay go Rogue - Bc Shay went rogue the next things happend: All his better Assassins died, the Brotherhood in America lost control, which leads to events of Ac 3, and kills Arno's father at the beginning of Unity - He became handicapped, not able to do anything anything of Assassin's job anymore All that shit could've been avoided if the man would've listened to Shay when he told him to stop
Al muallim was the best mentor, while he had ulteir motive, he was intellegent, patient and wise. In his hands brotherhood become really strong and raised many capable Assassins. Abbas on the other used brotherhood to dirting Assassins creed so he can spit on Altair face. In his hands brotherhood become really weak.
For me it's Abbas or Achilles because a they both do bad or dumb things and don't go with the Creed but mostly Abbas and why because of all the things he has done but in the end it's my opinion
my personal ranking goes as follows: 1 Al Mualim since he betrayed the brotherhood from it's very roots 2 Mackandal since he disregarded everything the Assasins stood for 3 Achiles since he brought the colonial brotherhood to its knees, and without Connor, there would be no brotherhood in America
I still say Achilies was pretty bad being a mentor means you need patience. Had he talked calmly with Shay hed likely still be a Assassin. Were i him while Shay brooded at the campfire i would of walked up apologized for my outburst then ask him to go into detail what he saw. After that would of told Shay we will summon the Assassins in the morning and decide what to do with the artifacts. A proper debriefing would of helped Shay calm down.
It's definitely a toss-up between Al Mualim and Abbas for the worst Assassin mentor. Al Mualim literally sought to destroy the Brotherhood and betrayed everything it stood for, while Abbas was leading the Brotherhood to ruin all because of his own personal issues with Altair. I can't decide which is worse. Wiping out an order in one swoop, or gradually hurting an order over time.
I think Al Mualim was worst, because Altaïr could defeat and stop Abbas in jus 1 day, and Al Mualim he needed to waste decades to defeat all his influence.
Al Mualim is indeed fills like the worst mentor, you can say whatever you want about Abbas; but at least he can be considered an "Assassin", while Al Mualim literally tried to betray his own organization for his own goals and ways!
Abbas was definitely the worst mentor due to him acting as a king and not the mentor of an order. Morality ignored, he definitely never trained any new assassins or set sights on any new goals.
I will look at this as what the price Brotherhood paid for their actions and this just makes me feel like Achilles was the worst. Because of his actions Brotherhood lost their entire control over North America and then Europe due to Achilles causing a monster like Shay to be a templar. If Achilles didn't make the mistakes he did then brotherhood in North America would never lose any control over North America and Brotherhood in France would never be weaklings as depicted in Unity.
I would say Achilles because where as with Al Muslim there were assassins left to keep the creed alive. With Achilles he made shay side with the templars and destroy colonial brotherhood.
I would argue that the French Brotherhood council of mentors was the worst because they failed to see that Bellec was killing them off, they oust Arno under the guise that he broke the tenants of the creed (he didn't) & are stubborn traditionalists.
Arno don"t killed innocents (just in coop missions, he needed kill some cops, but that doens't count), used steath and what? Be the boyfriend of his Templar step-sister is a dogma break? Altaïr married a Templar and was one of the biggest Assassin's of all time.
Agate is probably the worst mentor, because at least Al Mualim kept the brotherhood toguether before getting the apple. The context is way different in these games, and I think the others would be worse if they were in that situation.
I think agate is the worst mentor mostly just because of how terrible he is specifically as a mentor, al mualim may be terrible but he wasn't bad as a mentor, he made some of the best assasins like altair, and none of his actions made him less effective as a mentor, agate on the other hand would literately rather kill himself than listen to avaline
Hot take: Al Mualim isn't that bad. Yes he betrayed the Order, but his teachings were genuine; he didn't preach a corrupt or diluted version of the Creed. What Altair learned from Al Mualim & his downfall facilitated Altair progression into a revolutionary Mentor.
Abbas always and will forever piss me off! Aways doubting Altiar of his actions and all because of a misplaced accusation of Abbas’s father committing suicide! And then decades of lousy mentorship of Masyaf leading people to suffer and killing his own Assassins and Maria which is totally against the second tenet of the creed. In the end he died as he lived…a weak man.
Accusation? Bruh Abbas' father did commit suicide. And Altair was specifically told not to tell Abbas but did it anyway. No boy that young would want to believe their father off themselves like that. What Abbas became is partly Altair's fault. Abbas wasn't ready for the burden of the truth.
Al Mulaim and others we’re selfish power hungry bastard assassins. Achilles was complex. He should never been mentor he was not mentally fit to do so. Only if Achilles listened to the lone wolf Shay Cormac the assassins would have turned the tide in their favor. Achilles was willing to sacrifice tens of thousands of lives to one up on the Templars and resort to terroristic tactics on the people. Lone Wolf actually helped the Templars win the war based on what was right and what was wrong.
For me it’s Excluding modern day American sect in general. For the mentors we know of they did a pretty shit job in general And though I agree with Al maualon being the outright worst as he almost single handedly destroyed the creed. The Americans are the cause for their loss. The American branch was the branch by a large margin closest to their goal. The closest to destroying the templars, finding out about the isu, and freeing the world. outside of the time gorgetir was burned or Alfred betrayed the system (other two were not assassin controlled victories but outside forces). They almost did it. Then the sins of their souls hit back and they ruined everything and everyone at the finish line all because of fanatism
I still say it’s Achilles. At least with the others it was just a simple case of them being overall bad people, Achilles was a terrible Mentor due to absolute stupidity and pride. He caused a continental catastrophe that killed thousands of people and destroyed their homes. He pushed away Shay, a loyal, guilt stricken comrade who was following Achilles’ orders which resulted in him betraying the Assassins and turning to the Templars; and wiping out the Colonial Brotherhood to the point that Achilles was the only one left. And it still took a decade for him to finally admit and apologize to Shay that he was wrong. All of that because one guy couldn’t admit that he was wrong and that he had made a mistake.
It’s been awhile since I’ve played Unity but wasn’t the creed in Paris pretty shitty to Arno? Atleast Altair turned out to be a complete badass thanks to Al mualims mentorship gotta give him that
Arno kinda went off and killed Templars without going to them first so they had trust issues. Mirabeau was kind of a shitty mentor but he had faith in Arno and was kind and open to Templar truces
I think abbas he only gained power only to ruin altair life and try to kill him and killed swf Altair son but youre rught you have more reason to question my opinion.
The worst mentor......Achilles in Assassin's Creed Rogue is one. I mean, this guy didn't listen to Shay's warnings. But in Assassin's Creed 3, he changed.
Well, he knew when he saw it with his own eyes, but I still hate him, and also, ADEWALE DIED!!!!!
@@FiRsTofALL0132 I didn't even want to kill Adewale. It was too painful 😢 but we had to. Ugh!!!
@@ChibiYesi857a ALL BECAUSE OF THAT DAMN NIGG-(no offense to any black people put there, except this mf) ACHILLES
@ChibiYesi857a to be fair Shay didn't either so I'm pretty sure most players me included were thinking the same as Shay that we didn't want to kill him
Shay really didn't give many warnings nor did he try his hardest to give them his report. He turned his back on them rather quickly and it felt more like he just wanted a reason to leave.
He may not be from the games, but one of the worst Mentors imo is Xiao Han from the recent Forgotten Temple webtoon. Not only did he fail to prevent the Chinese Brotherhood from being purged, undoing all of Shao Jun's work centuries prior, but his solution is to find a Piece of Eden and use it to overthrow the entire Qing dynasty. It's a plan so nuts even Edward had to step in and try to stop him. Oh, and he also has no issue allowing innocents to die to further his goals. So yeah, Xiao Han is not only one of the worst Mentors ever, but one of the worst Assassins period.
And Sergei from Russia, who tried to kill a orphan girl and the son of the Assassin who saved the orphan girl. (I think the son don't haved even 10 years in that time)
I agree, Xiao Han is the worst mentors and one of the worst Assassin.
For me, I understood what Xiao Han’s intentions. The Qing Dynasty was pretty oppressive towards the Han Chinese, and there were many groups such as the White Lotus and the Tiandihui who fought for a new dynasty. However, Xiao Han became so dedicated to eradicating the Qing that he forgot the very Creed itself, making him the same level as the Qing or a Templar. Though the story of him of “Overthrowing the Qing and restoring the Ming” continues, it is still important to remember, “those who fight monsters must not become monsters themselves.”
Then again we got to see Templars and Assassins working together led by Edward to repel his invasion of London. So not all bad storywise.
@@DeibdleeSilva Good on Gregory Orlov for stepping in and doing what's right.
Worst Mentors of Assassins (personal rankings) -
1. Al - Mualim - Traitor to the basic tenets and the very core of Assassin's Creed.
2. Abbas - Traitor to the basic tenets of the Creed, traitor to the Levantine Brotherhood and narcissistic bastard.
3. Agate - Traitor to the Louisiana Brotherhood who preferred his secrets over the Creed.
4. Mirabeau - Extremely weak and complacent who allowed Templar operations in Paris rather than limiting their influence.
Sergei chould be in this list, he tried to kill some childs and teached his Assassin's to follow him blindely.
This is the correct ranking
Oof, I see your a ‘Bellec was right’ person
@@AzraelBrutus Thanks
@@speedhog58 Bellec ? No. Taking down the entire top echelon of the Brotherhood right when all surveillance into Templar activities was lost ? Bloody insane. Bellec had become a mad, unable to see the truth properly, if at all.
But Bellec was right in saying that Mirabeau was too busy playing politics than being an Assassin. He was content with the Templars infiltrating the French top echelon, while people like Altair and Ezio would have taken every measure to stop them from doing so.
I definitely agree with your choice. Especially because I finished playing the game for the first time last night. I’d be interested in an Al Mualim prequel game
@@kaidorade1317 Me, too. I wanna see young Al Mualim becoming a Master Assassin
i wish to see a sequel to Mirage where Basim goes to Byzantine controlled constantinople (as said in valhalla's codex)
If you want that play ac revaltions
@@BrysonS-l2e ottoman constantinople (in revelations) was entirely different than byzantine constantiniople as there is a 500+ years difference between revelations and mirage
@@alibhabha82179that would be cool but for the same reason that they wouldn’t make another different game in Jerusalem they wouldn’t make another game in Constantinople.
The book Assassin’s Creed The Golden City is really good. There you could read from Hytham’s perspective, but it also gives some pretty cool showing in Basim’s capabilities.
i doubt we will ever get a multi game Protagonist, Ezio wouldnt be the "most fleshed out character" anymore, AC Nostalgia Diehards couldnt survive that xD
I definitely think Al Mualim wasn't the worst for most of his 30 years as mentor. He taught Altair, who was the best. He had really good Master Assassins under him. Sure, his betrayal was probably the worst... but overall I don't think we can say his legacy was that terrible.
In the book secret crusade al Mualin said to young Altair to never reveal how Abas father died because he didn't want the world to know that the father of Abas died a shameful death
Reminds me of Spiderman 2002 when Peter couldn't tell Harry the truth about his father being the Green Goblin and it leading to his death because of the promise Peter/Spiderman made to Harry's dad, which in turn made Harry blame and try to kill Spiderman.
@@ConnorWiederich-hr4zu damn that's actually true
For me, it would have to be Abbas.
For al Mualim, he managed to keep the Assassins in line and did provide good lessons for Altair. Also, his motivations stemmed from the Apple's temptation and thinking he could end the Crusades.
Abbas, however, only cared about his vendetta with Altair. Every action he took was out of spite towards Altair. He led the Assassins to become lazy and ignore their conflict with the Templars. Killed those that were close to Altair like one of his sons and Malik. And he carried this grudge for the entirety of his life. While the Assassins under his rule lost their respect for him, mocked him, and quickly turned on him when Altair returned.
Agreed also under Abbas the assassin's would kill civilians that goes against everything the brotherhood stands for
You forgot about Sergei from Russia, he have some very villain mania of killing childs, he ordened to make some studies that torture and kill innocent people, even an 16 years old orphan girl, he even deserted Nicolaï for want to save her, he even follow Nicolaï to the middle of nothing and menaced ro kill his son for he return to job for the Assassin's, he is a very cruel Mentor.
A Civil War time period AC playing as a nat turner freed slave type assassin would be so dope man
An idea I thought of recently: How about a video like “who is the most versatile assassin”? Or does that already exist, and I’ve missed it?
Not gonna I think something should have been done about Mackandal, the Templars have an enforcer called The Black Cross, who makes sure Templars follow the rules set down by the Templar order. I think the Assassin's need something similar to make sure Mentors of the Brotherhood do the same and if they don't they should be removed.
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@@00martoneniris86 There's a comic the details what the Black Cross is and Johanni Otso Burg takes up the role.
Call them the Shaydes lmao
Shay and his sons fill that role in the novels, taking orders from the Mentor's Council. In fact, that's actually what resulted in the fates of Mackandal, Avilin, and Conor.
@@exile6688 what happened to, Connor after assassin’s Creed did he live in Davenport Manor for the rest of his life or go back to his people?
Off topic, but to anyone planning to platinum AC Liberation: PLEASE don't. This sh*t was HORRIBLE.. worst game I think I've ever played.
too late
and twas horrible
Nice vid man, I hadn’t played liberations for that long so the fact that there are two mentors not one was news to me. Day 1 of leaving a positive comment on my favorite creators
For me the worst mentor is whoever lead Assassins in Britain during Assassin's Creed Syndicate. I mean to be such cowardly and allow templars to grow that strong in London, while ignoring Henry Green's warning about it's growing influence and not sending anyone untill Frye Twins went rogue.
The templars were strong in london due to the death of edward kenway by reginal birch, followed by the events of ac rogue where shay destroyed colonial assassin, which lead to haytham killing niko at the start of ac 3 who is one of edward close ally in the brotherhood. All of this 3 factors is the biggest reason why the templar took over london until syndicate happened. So you can say that all of this happened because reginal betrayed edward and killing him, if edward was still around the events of ac rogue could be prevented since he would visit both ade and achiless to talk some sense into them and haytham would never joined the templar in the first place.
I’m not sure I’ve you’ve done this or not… but ranking the major cities from each game best-worst or worst to best sounds pretty entertaining👍🏾
Let’s also not forget Boris Pash or William Miles in this debate…..
Achilles in my opinion his decision to go after the precursor box got thousands killed, his arrogance lead the the demise of the colonial brotherhood, his failures allowed the templars to basically rule over the colonies until connor became a assassin, he made the assassins lose their way and fight for a goal that was different from which many assassins before him would go against and he runs the assassins went a "my way or the highway" way of thinking which if you go against him you are basically going against the assassins which would either get you kicked out or killed
Al - Mualim for not only betraying the Brotherhood but also crushing every potential trust in a Mentor for every player that played AC1 as the first game, like you said.
Your Voice when you explain something about assasins is so relaxing, you should Asmr for the brother hood 😅
Love having aveline and liberation included in the discussion more
Love your video and keep up the great work. You are awesome bro
I don't think Achilles is objectively the worst mentor, but he's the one I hate the most tbh, even in AC3 he was annoying af
Achilles’s Brotherhood also involved dark actions such as poisoning New York’s population, working with bandits, attacking Colonel Monroe and his men despite there being a surrender, and flying flags with the Assassin symbol on them at their hideouts in New York. Sure these were more his students’ fault like Hope and Captain Louis-Joseph but Achilles let these events happen.
No one seems to be talking about the Mentor who destroyed an entire underground city and killed a lot of innocent civilians by smoke asphyxiation or fire just to MAYBE lure out one old fat ass. The Mentor who took assassination orders from a random teenager after one observation. The Mentor who cared more about his personal feelings towards vengeance than the safety of the world. (After already killing god knows how many people). And the Mentor who destroyed an entire harbor instead of sneaking out a city like, you know, an Assassin would.
You mean Ezio?
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Achilles had no reason to trust Shay. In the brief interactions they had, Shay always did his own thing and didn't care what others said. So when Shay says "Don't go searching precursor sites" means very little. Plus by the end of AC Rogue Achilles realised that Shay was right. Something he would have done much earlier if Shay hadn't betrayed the Creed.
But Basim from Valhalla should be also in this conversation. Not having played Mirage, all I know about Basim is that he is searching for incarnations of Odin and the Hidden Ones are just a tool for him.
Altair wouldn't be the wise mentor he is if its not for Al Mualim. I kinda like how both Altair and Al Mualim switched role in the first game, Al Mualim reminded Altair of the Assassin's Creed (no pun intended) while in the end it is Al Mualim himself who lost the meaning of the creed and begin to do as he pleases.
A hidden detail during Altair last hug with Darim you can see in the reflection in the puddle, he basically become the Al Mualim who never went astray.
Mentors like Al Mualim, Mackandal, Achilles and Abbas are why I advocate for a horizontally organized assassin brotherhood. Just like the assassin brotherhood of the catalonian anarchists of the spanish civil war in the 1930's were, with Ignacio Cardona and the like.
I would say either Al Mualim or Abbas. However, now that I think about it, Abbas became the man he is because Al Mualim told Altaïr to not tell Abbas the truth about his dad’s death, which he did anyways. And Al Mualim never confirmed nor denied the truth, causing Abbas’s hatred for Altaïr. Hell, in Revelations, Altaïr said that Abbas hated Al Mualim just as much as Altaïr. So had Al Mualim not committed these mistakes, then this domino effect would have never happened.
I think Achilles isn't one of the worse ones; yes if he did listen to Shaw in Rogue then the Colonial Brotherhood wouldn't have been wiped out or him crippled and broken. Connor did bring hope back to Achilles by bring the Brotherhood back to life during the Revolutionary War and he also did die happy knowing what Connor did for him. He wasn't just a mentor to Connor, but like a father to him. Connor never really knew Haytham and Achilles did so much for him; even gave him his son's name because Connor was like a son to him etc.
Will we ever see another ghost of Tsushima video?
I strongly agree with the ending synopsis
If Altair hadn't stopped Al Mualim at the end of AC1...then most if not all the other mentors on this list would have ever existed...
Abbas has a slim chance if for some reason Al Mualim kept a mock version of the Creed in place and decided to use Abbas as a weak minded figurehead to keep order....and most likely brainwashed him to believe the new corrupt Creed's tenets
Other then that, the other characters may well have never been born...or at the very least would never have been part of the Brotherhood...let alone a Mentor
Shay didn’t betray the assassins. The assassins betrayed Shay.
Achilles was the worst ngl. I'm gonna say a lot ot things that happend bc Aquiles refused to listen.
- Destroyed a lot of places
- Didn't listen to Shay when he told him that taking those relics would lead to disaster
- Made Shay go Rogue
- Bc Shay went rogue the next things happend: All his better Assassins died, the Brotherhood in America lost control, which leads to events of Ac 3, and kills Arno's father at the beginning of Unity
- He became handicapped, not able to do anything anything of Assassin's job anymore
All that shit could've been avoided if the man would've listened to Shay when he told him to stop
Al muallim was the best mentor, while he had ulteir motive, he was intellegent, patient and wise. In his hands brotherhood become really strong and raised many capable Assassins. Abbas on the other used brotherhood to dirting Assassins creed so he can spit on Altair face. In his hands brotherhood become really weak.
For me it's Abbas or Achilles because a they both do bad or dumb things and don't go with the Creed but mostly Abbas and why because of all the things he has done but in the end it's my opinion
@@ElijahAcosta-xo5jq Abbas was an absolute jerk. And he's the reason behind Malik's death. 😭
my personal ranking goes as follows:
1 Al Mualim since he betrayed the brotherhood from it's very roots
2 Mackandal since he disregarded everything the Assasins stood for
3 Achiles since he brought the colonial brotherhood to its knees, and without Connor, there would be no brotherhood in America
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He shot Achilles in the heels, who saw that coming?
Aren't we forgetting al mulim was a sage
Source?
I still say Achilies was pretty bad being a mentor means you need patience. Had he talked calmly with Shay hed likely still be a Assassin. Were i him while Shay brooded at the campfire i would of walked up apologized for my outburst then ask him to go into detail what he saw. After that would of told Shay we will summon the Assassins in the morning and decide what to do with the artifacts. A proper debriefing would of helped Shay calm down.
It's definitely a toss-up between Al Mualim and Abbas for the worst Assassin mentor. Al Mualim literally sought to destroy the Brotherhood and betrayed everything it stood for, while Abbas was leading the Brotherhood to ruin all because of his own personal issues with Altair.
I can't decide which is worse. Wiping out an order in one swoop, or gradually hurting an order over time.
I think Al Mualim was worst, because Altaïr could defeat and stop Abbas in jus 1 day, and Al Mualim he needed to waste decades to defeat all his influence.
Al Mualim is indeed fills like the worst mentor, you can say whatever you want about Abbas; but at least he can be considered an "Assassin", while Al Mualim literally tried to betray his own organization for his own goals and ways!
Has to be Achilles Davenport... His ego and lack of judgment led to the demise of the Brotherhood in North America.
AC did the black mentors dirty 😂
Abbas was definitely the worst mentor due to him acting as a king and not the mentor of an order. Morality ignored, he definitely never trained any new assassins or set sights on any new goals.
I will look at this as what the price Brotherhood paid for their actions and this just makes me feel like Achilles was the worst. Because of his actions Brotherhood lost their entire control over North America and then Europe due to Achilles causing a monster like Shay to be a templar. If Achilles didn't make the mistakes he did then brotherhood in North America would never lose any control over North America and Brotherhood in France would never be weaklings as depicted in Unity.
I would say Achilles because where as with Al Muslim there were assassins left to keep the creed alive. With Achilles he made shay side with the templars and destroy colonial brotherhood.
You should do the best Master Assassin or best Assassin Mentor
It's a split for me between Abbas or Achilles
Al Mualim trained Altair well though,we can atleast acknowledge that.
Literally they are all bad besides Achilles specifically from Rogue then he realised he was wrong
I would argue that the French Brotherhood council of mentors was the worst because they failed to see that Bellec was killing them off, they oust Arno under the guise that he broke the tenants of the creed (he didn't) & are stubborn traditionalists.
Arno don"t killed innocents (just in coop missions, he needed kill some cops, but that doens't count), used steath and what? Be the boyfriend of his Templar step-sister is a dogma break? Altaïr married a Templar and was one of the biggest Assassin's of all time.
@@DeibdleeSilva exactly what I'm saying, the French brotherhood leadership were a bunch of hypocrites
@@deadponic117 i think they din't even know how to do a freerunning, a normal thing for an Assassin.
Agate is probably the worst mentor, because at least Al Mualim kept the brotherhood toguether before getting the apple. The context is way different in these games, and I think the others would be worse if they were in that situation.
I think agate is the worst mentor mostly just because of how terrible he is specifically as a mentor, al mualim may be terrible but he wasn't bad as a mentor, he made some of the best assasins like altair, and none of his actions made him less effective as a mentor, agate on the other hand would literately rather kill himself than listen to avaline
U should do who's the worst assassin protagonist in the series
Hot take: Al Mualim isn't that bad.
Yes he betrayed the Order, but his teachings were genuine; he didn't preach a corrupt or diluted version of the Creed.
What Altair learned from Al Mualim & his downfall facilitated Altair progression into a revolutionary Mentor.
I agree its al mualim. OK next worst templar grandmaster? Got a bigger list there.
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I think it has to be Pierre if I remember correctly he was just using the creed for his own benefit.
He wan't a Mentor
Good video
One of the worst: Achilles in AC Rougue
One of the best: Achilles in AC 3
will you do who is the most important assassin?
Thats relative depending on what way you mean it.
Has to be Altair
Abbas always and will forever piss me off! Aways doubting Altiar of his actions and all because of a misplaced accusation of Abbas’s father committing suicide! And then decades of lousy mentorship of Masyaf leading people to suffer and killing his own Assassins and Maria which is totally against the second tenet of the creed. In the end he died as he lived…a weak man.
Accusation? Bruh Abbas' father did commit suicide. And Altair was specifically told not to tell Abbas but did it anyway. No boy that young would want to believe their father off themselves like that. What Abbas became is partly Altair's fault. Abbas wasn't ready for the burden of the truth.
I love Achilles bro ac 3 was my first game i thought he was a bit of a ass but awesome then i played rouge............... he redeemed himself in ac 3
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I get it but he trained altair and more assassins at a super high level
In my opinion the French Brotherhood were incompetent as well.
Can we just say Jacob lmfao he created a serial killer
Achilles, not even close.
Al Mulaim and others we’re selfish power hungry bastard assassins. Achilles was complex. He should never been mentor he was not mentally fit to do so. Only if Achilles listened to the lone wolf Shay Cormac the assassins would have turned the tide in their favor. Achilles was willing to sacrifice tens of thousands of lives to one up on the Templars and resort to terroristic tactics on the people. Lone Wolf actually helped the Templars win the war based on what was right and what was wrong.
Now do best Mentor!
For me it’s
Excluding modern day
American sect in general.
For the mentors we know of they did a pretty shit job in general
And though I agree with Al maualon being the outright worst as he almost single handedly destroyed the creed. The Americans are the cause for their loss.
The American branch was the branch by a large margin closest to their goal. The closest to destroying the templars, finding out about the isu, and freeing the world. outside of the time gorgetir was burned or Alfred betrayed the system (other two were not assassin controlled victories but outside forces). They almost did it. Then the sins of their souls hit back and they ruined everything and everyone at the finish line all because of fanatism
What Roshan and the french assassin mentor I forgot his name
Roshan was alright wdym
Agate is one of the few characters IN FICTION... who made me legitimately want to stop following the story.
Yo this dude went through puberty. I disapear for a year boy sounds like a man now
yippee I'm quick here this time
Anybody know who the right guy on the thumbnail is?
Al Maulin
By technicality he was trying to kill and or brainwash you. I mean kind of hard to top
Batman is the worst of the Assassin Mentors
where Roshan? she was just dumb bruh
I still say it’s Achilles. At least with the others it was just a simple case of them being overall bad people, Achilles was a terrible Mentor due to absolute stupidity and pride.
He caused a continental catastrophe that killed thousands of people and destroyed their homes. He pushed away Shay, a loyal, guilt stricken comrade who was following Achilles’ orders which resulted in him betraying the Assassins and turning to the Templars; and wiping out the Colonial Brotherhood to the point that Achilles was the only one left. And it still took a decade for him to finally admit and apologize to Shay that he was wrong. All of that because one guy couldn’t admit that he was wrong and that he had made a mistake.
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Wouldnt Connor technically be considered the mentor of the American brotherhood after Achilles death?
Yes, but he was a good Mentor, everybody liked him and the colonial brotherhood grew up a lot.
Connor was top tier,he even trained Adewales grandson.
It was also said colonial templars never recovered.
@newhybrid101 all of Shay's work was undone by Connor and his Assassins.
Abbas hands down the worst that guy is to much of an ass and stubborn/narcissistic and lacks of knowledge and wisdom that assassins needs .
To me i think the worst mentor is roshan
achilles
It’s been awhile since I’ve played Unity but wasn’t the creed in Paris pretty shitty to Arno? Atleast Altair turned out to be a complete badass thanks to Al mualims mentorship gotta give him that
Arno kinda went off and killed Templars without going to them first so they had trust issues. Mirabeau was kind of a shitty mentor but he had faith in Arno and was kind and open to Templar truces
@@MrRaxicorniopholus ohhh ok I remember now thanks
Almualim (whatever his name is)
isnt a mentor, its just manipulator 💀
typical egoistic narcisst who only acted nice
What about Roshan?
henry green from syndicate is the worst
I think abbas he only gained power only to ruin altair life and try to kill him and killed swf Altair son but youre rught you have more reason to question my opinion.
Feel that mikandal is worst he savage killing others cause he deosnt care
Worst mentor is ackilles
AL Mu Ah Lim!!
Wait by mentor do you me grand master
best guy
What about... the Most Mediocre (Meh) Mentor? MMMM 😂😂😂
You forgot about Ezio, he becomes a mentor in Brotherhood and mentors a lot of people in Revelations
You should dobthe best mentors