Integrated Engineering Stage 2 First DRIVE and REACTION - VW 2.5 - 07k - Is it worth it?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 พ.ค. 2021
- Well here it is. My first drive on the stage 2 setup from Integrated Engineering on my 2010 Volkswagen Jetta 2.5. My reaction? Do it! It is worth every penny. My recommendation is to buy the power kit that includes all the items to go stage 2. It is just easier that way. Many intakes can be modified to work with this manifold but the IE intake will bolt right up to it. (obviously)
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So, this is definitely worth it! Are you getting the “Ultimate Power Kit”?
I’m just going to buy the manifold and fabricate my own intake
@@MellowAintYello nothing wrong with that!
It’s a lot cheaper to get the intake and and their intake separately. Is it worth it to get the kit? Does it have more crap in the kit than just the manifold and cold air intake. Lmk
@@rawsondenna6329 the kit also includes the powerlink to flash the tune as well as the credits to purchase the tune.
Do I miss anything by skipping stage 1 and going straight to stage 2? I wanna start with stage 1, but it would be easier to just buy the kit and jump straight to stage 2.
My third and fifth are so tall on my mk6 golf, doing 6 speed swap this spring from a mk5 gti. You should check it out, only modification you have to do is clearance the trans case where it meets the timing chain cover about an eighth to a quarter inch. Cool videos!
6spd swap is happening for sure! Already working on the parts list 👍🏻
I just did the IE stage 1 tune on my stock Mk5 Rabbit. I like the differences I'm experiencing from the stock settings. However, I'm not running an exhaust yet (suggestions?). Your videos are inspiring me to get their power bundle and go stage 2. I appreciate the work that you showcase on your channel. Keep up the good work.
Thank you! My Jetta is straight piped after the CAT. I am considering adding a Vibrant Ultra Quiet Resonator to smooth it out. If your looking for a CAT-Back setup then I would look into AWE.
AWE it is then. Thanks.
@@aznerol0770 👍🏻
When you went stage 1 did that weird power hang go away? When I floor the gas whether it’s from stop or 10mph then flooring it the car picks up slowly for like 3 seconds then it finally PULLS like there’s a huge hesitation. I think all DSG 2.5s do that. Did stage 1 remove that!
@@EastDallasKicks IE has a tune for the TCU that should get rid of it. I dont think their ecu flash tune alone can fix it.
Facts ! Trucks always want the sauce
i didnt know you lived in arizona the first on ramp u took i take that home every day i have 2008 2.5 about to go stage 1
Waiting on mine for my 2.5 golf, should be here early next month.
Awesome!
Voyage RC quick question. Do I need a female or male tripple square 12 and 8mm?
@@AbsoluteRecoil male. The one that f***s the hole. The other way would just be a standard 12 point socket.
I know it’s been ages since you posted this but how has reliability been if you still have the car? My car is at 150k and I’m considering the Stage 2 kit from stock, but a bit nervous about the higher redline and what issues that may cause in the long run. Thanks!
I still have it and run it to redline daily. I have had zero issues. I’m currently at 180k miles. 👌🏻
Just got my 07 mk v rabbit back from my local VW dealer after buying used from a car dealer the power train service warranty didn't cover anything and we have a hole in the intake manifold. Do I just fork over the 2k I would have payed for for a t star and manifold and labor FOR. The upgraded integrated engineering kit with the chip for 1600 and do it myself?
Since you've had the IE stage 1 and 2 now, would you say the added cost was definitely worth it? Let me add a secondary question, would you say the stage 2 is worth it over stage 1 if you also had to swap from hydraulic PS to EPS? I'm trying to decide but not really wanting to put the money/effort into the swap for stage 2 if it doesn't make a big difference over stage1.
The stage 1 drives the way the car should from the factory. Stage 2 adds more power at the top end. It pulls hard all the way to red line. It really depends on what you want from the car. Are you planning on boosting down the road? Just want a little more power? Etc.
yo i didnt know you lived in arizona i take that 202 home every day i have a 08 2.5 about to go stage 1
I have my stage 2 OBD tune coming an I just deleted both rear mufflers an straight piped it 2.5 inch
Straight pipe 💪🏼
Thanks for your videos about this stage 2 tooned. Anyway, I have a MK5 Rabbit 2007. It has 232k kms. I want to make the car more fun to drive, I plan on driving this thing till its scraping the floor lol. It's either tune this or fork out stupid money for overpriced used cars in this market. Would you recommend stage 1 or stage 2? It'd be fun to track it at some point, but I am learning how to work on cars I've done valve cover gasket, oil changes, vacuum pump, so I have a little experience but still learning. What would you recommend? Also any recommendations for your exhaust?
Stage 1 will make the car a lot more fun without having to swap any parts. Stage 2 will have a little more power and you will have to change the intake manifold. Both tunes make the vehicle more fun to operate. My exhaust has both mufflers and the resonator straight piped. AWE and some other brands make some good cat-back systems that you can bolt on.
@@VoyageRC thank you so much.
@@stringsnare 👍🏻👊🏻
Hilarious, I just happened to remember that I was waiting on your stage 2 video, and boom here it is.
Definitely will have a couple questions.
How is your fuel economy looking versus stock and stage 1?
Is your low end power really better? From IE's charts stage 1 should offer very slightly better low end power.
Gas mileage went down a little. Partly due to the slight loss of low end power. Honestly, it does feel better all around. But yes, the power curve on stage 2 is more high RPM.
@@VoyageRC "Loss of Low Power" and "Better all Around" Seem to contradict a bit ;). Would you say that stage 2 is bringing something extra to the low end that is causing you to feel this?
@@HyperSlayer72 Its just a shift in the power band. It hits harder up top. Its hard to describe the low RPM range of power. Its not really a “loss” over stage 1 as much as you dont gain any down low. All the gains are mid to upper range. So really it just prefers to be in that range and driving like you typically would for good fuel economy, by keeping the RPMs low, doesnt work as well on this tune. Maybe it is a “loss” down low 🤷🏻♂️ 🤣 Driving it just feels really good! And thats a fact!
I just the IE Ultimate Power Kit on a 07 Rabbit with MAF. Completely transformed the car. Power band extension is no joke, it pulls hard and smooth to 7300.
@@AlanSutton its amazing!
I’m thinking of doing this on my 14 Jetta SportWagen, the only thing is it is a Auto not stick. Would it still be worthwhile to do it?
Its still a good setup. You would just want to do the Trans tune also.
Hey I have a question I know this is not related to your video and I just got a 06 jetta 2.5l but I’m very concerned about a burning smell and I couldn’t figure out where it’s coming from and when I drove the car I can smell it inside from the vents and when I popped the hood I can smell it from the fan/ engine but i jus lt cant figure it out where. If you could tell me what’s wrong with it or what to check that would help me a lot. Thank you :))
Get your sniffer 👃 out and try to pinpoint it. There isn’t a specific place I could tell you to check, but a burning 🔥 smell is not good.
Take a good look at your vacuum pump if you haven't already. Mine leaked over time and eventually destroyed my starter. I was smelling burning oil (possibly a different smell than yours) prior to having to replace both items. Now I'm considering deleting the vacuum pump altogether as this issue will eventually return.
Just an idea. Your issue may be entirely different.
Would you ever do a turbo build for the 2.5?
I would love too!
What’s your opinion on the AFe MagnumFORCE Pro Dry
Intake
Not a fan of the way it is setup. It pulls hot air into the system. You want the filter towards the front of the car to reduce your intake air temps. Not sure it would work with the stage 2 setup anyways due to the move in the throttle body location.
@@VoyageRC and what you recommend for the intake, I’m getting into modding my Mk6 2.5. All I got a on rn is a lip 😭
@@JoaoFerreira-ov2ey if you go stage 2 then just do the full kit from IE. Otherwise Injen, Neuspeed, and USP make some good stuff.
how many miles do you have, i have 160K rabbit and I'm thinking of going IE stage 2 as well
I am currently at 170k
silly q, woudl stage 2 include what stage 1 has? if i go from stock --> stage 2, can i just skip stage 1? thinking to buy that full kit IE has
100% you can go directly to stage 2! Stage 1 is just a tune, so you can skip that and bolt on the IE kit and go stage 2.
@@VoyageRC thanks so much for your prompt response!
@@stringsnare anytime 👌🏻
I see that the power kit is only for the manual mk5 but is it posible to be put on a automatic?
The power kit will work on manual and auto cars. The real factor is whether or not you have electric or hydraulic power steering. The manifold is not compatible with hydraulic power steering. You will also want to tune your transmission if automatic.
@@VoyageRC Thanks for the response. Found some info that it will be compatible if you have the the electric steering with an automatic. You just need to spend a lil extra, like about 300 bucks, for a special tune for the automatic. And after thats done, then its just as good.
may be a stupid question, but would it work on the golfs aswell?
Should work on all 2.5’s with electric power steering
@@VoyageRC nice
Hey thinking of tuning my 08 beetle not sure if it's positive on the small space though also will it turn on my check engine light on? Cause I need it to pass smog
IE tunes do not have any issue with causing a CEL (unless there is some random underlying issue that is not tune related).
Did you get the ie down pipe as well or just the manifold?
Just the manifold. I am not aware of a downpipe from IE. USP makes a downpipe with a high flow CAT. I have the stock downpipe though.
@@VoyageRC alright sick. I got the stage 1 ie tune and have a muffler delete. I should be getting straight piped soon. But mine doesn’t pop like yours does is there a reason for that?
@@brandonsomoza-lima8229 mine is straight piped after the CAT. If you still have the resonator it could be cutting down on the pops.
@@VoyageRC alright thanks bro
@@VoyageRC one last question. What year is your car. Looks like injen doesn’t make intakes for 2009 jetta from what I’ve seen it says it doesn’t fit my car
Stock downpipe?
Yes, factory CAT
Is this stock exhaust?
Oh no. That went NSync a long time ago. Its the factory cat and straight pipe the rest of the way.
What size rim and tires do you have?
18x8.5 +35 225/40R18
@@VoyageRC I just ordered 225/40/18 and 18x8.5 with +45 offset. Think they will fit?
@@Alex-yq3hg they should. Just check your inner clearance. If your low low then it might be tight. +45 should not be an issue though.
2.25in or 2.5in exhaust
I think factory was 2.5”. Dont quote me on that. Its all factory pipe with new sections welded in to replace the resonator and mufflers.
Where did you go to get installed?
My garage 😜
@@VoyageRC could I ever go to a tune place to get it installed or somewhere else?
@@2kgaming225 Im sure you could
Yo VRC, cut your Injen intake tube to shorten it up.
I didnt feel like hacking it up 🤣 It has the IE intake on it now.
@@VoyageRC ok, cool. I’ll buy your old intake if you still have it. I have the original manifold
@@robertpaupard1265 not selling it at the moment. I will let you know if I do
How's the reliability?
Excellent, as long as you maintain it properly. Stay on top of oil changes.
If u buy the Intake and intake manifold separately it’s around 500 cheaper
How does that work the power kit comes with the tune which is 648$ manifold is 900$ and ie short ram is 400$? Or the ultimate power kit for $1500 I’ve found it for $1300
@@randycastelos3781 I’ve concluded the ultimate power kit is the best bet because it comes with the stage 2 tune
Yeah with no tune .. the kit is the cheapest route to successfully install this ..
Volkswagen did everything they could to derate the 2.5l jettas. Just look at the bs stock intake thats integrated into the cover. That shit screams air restriction.
Definitely wasn’t the ideal setup
is yours a manual?
Yes it is
@@VoyageRC nice i have an 07 Jetta manual and I'm trying to get the torque and HP higher but I don't know the right steps
@@Thatpandamanyt IE stage 2 is great. Or you can throw some boost at it.
@@VoyageRC okay! ill let you know how it goes!!
@@VoyageRC can i also go straight to stage 2uned? or do i have to go to stage 1 then too 2?
yo i didnt know you lived in arizona i take that 202 home every day i have a 08 2.5 about to go stage 1