Very interesting video. I've thrown together the odd Jaguar XK engine but always wished I could do one of the Bugatti or Lamborghini engines with those beautiful aluminum castings. Thanks for taking time to document this build of such a rare and wonderful engine. Side criticism: music should never compete with the subject to the point where it becomes noticeable. At several points I was so distracted by trumpets and drums banging on my tympanums I could barely understand the voiceover.
Jay was right, this man is really the best when it comes to these old tech engines. Not to say he'd not do well on new tech but this old tech takes knowledge and a steady hand to get it apart, fixed and back together properly. What a gr8 video. Thank u for sharing it.
Jim Stranberg bleeds Bugatti. Watch the Joyride Pictures Bugatti Craftsman video to learn more about Jim and his passion for bringing these cars back to life.
I've seen several similar engines in Type 35 models. The hand built workmanship were engineering masterpieces. Equally unique and impressive were the front axles. These were fabricated probably from one piece of steel and highly polished. Each end was curved upwards and fastened directly to the kingpins. But the fascinating part was that the axles had rectangular formed slots with the leaf springs running through.
I fell in love with Bugattis in 1968, as a 12 year old kid. Now I see how they did it. I'm just a back yard BS mechanic, but this is just Astounding and Beautiful! I'm gonna watch this 10 more times!!!
I understand the love affair. Bugatti was a artist first with a passion for building automobiles. Be sure to watch the other Joyride Pictures video about Jim Stranberg’s passion for Bugatti and bringing them back to life. Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for posting a nice comment.
Absolutely awesome, just wish there was no music so we could hear. At least at the parts where he was talking so we could get all of it. Amazing. Thanks!
Just curious what device you watched the video on? The music was edited way down under the audio so it shouldn’t conflict but you’re not the first person to mention the audio and music mix.
Film's like this will be a invaluable souse of information for future engineers on how to maintain these fantastic cars, as well as great entertainment to me and countless others. Beautiful engineering, worked on by buy true craftsmen well explained and clearly filmed, thank you to all involved.
The Ford 427 Cammer motors sold for street use have similar tubes in the manifold (it's called a "tunnel port" manifold) to route the push rods directly through the intake ports for the least interruption in airflow. Amazing what Bugatti had thought to do three decades earlier!
I really enjoyed this video. Fantastic to see a piece of art like the Bugatti engine being rebuilt. However, being a mechanical engineer it was worrying to see the mild steel oil pipes running through the water jacket being replaced with copper pipes. I understand the challenge of getting a less pliable material in, but how do you handle the galvanic corrosion where the aluminum would be the material to be offered?
When I asked Jim this same question, he mentioned there are others around the world with a similar passion and would recommend it highly to anyone who cares about restoring and bringing these wonderful machines back to life.
@@davidstewart4570 yes, no doubt incredible genius, and zero compassion for the poor guy who might have to work on it one day. I'm not saying if i was that smart I'd care about the little guy either, I'm just pointing out it sucks.
@@JoyridePictures i think they're brilliant designs, and absolute works of art and engineering. They were never concerned with maintenance, and with a mentality like that it really takes the limitations away from what can be made. But watching that man use a jewelers tools and techniques to repair the water feed tubes was mind boggling. Never in my life would ive thought that was necessary, rich also is a nod to the man who rebuilt that engine. It's not everyday a Jewelers touch is required in the automotive workd
Ettore was of the famous Bugatti family of Italy. The Bugatti’s were artists. Ettore used his artistic talents and training to great extent when designing his autos. That is why they are as beautiful as they are. He also was a mechanical genius. As I understand, the front axle of his cars was forged in a way that has never been understood. These were and are the best examples of mechanical art to exist. Thank you for showing the world the beauty of Bugatti’s works of art.
Since I was born in 1938, I feel a kind of special kinship with this engine - a year older than I am. I am a mechanic and engine rebuilder with similar skill sets, but I would be delighted to learn more from Jim. Loved the fitment of the new oil tubes. Nice to see Jim's machinist skills. That peened over copper mallet shows a LOT of use. I wonder if you could edit in the details of the oil pump, and give the hot idle oil pressure and the running oil pressure. Also I saw no sign of gaskets or sealant on most surfaces. I assume that meant extreme care in matching the surfaces? I would be nervous not using a specialty sealant. I have some tubes of blue stuff used on gasket free surfaces on Rolls engines - don't remember the name at the moment. Would there be some arcane reason for not using a bit of that? Also, is there a car for the engine? Be nice to see this masterpiece doing what it was created for. And finally, on the controversy about the music - I vote for no music. It was a bit distracting, sort of like elevator music in an operating theatre whilst a heart transplant was in progress. Maybe you could create a soundtrack of the engine idling softly with a jazz overlay?
Thanks for watching and commenting on the video. From what I've read about Bugatti engine blocks, the tolerances were so tight that gaskets were not required for sealing. However, Jim did use some sealant where needed. I don't have details on the car that I can share but, I think it's going into a Bugatti Type 64.
@@JoyridePictures Hi, still would like to see the oi; pump/pressure info. The "blue stuff" is called Hylomar, used for extreme tolerance sealing. Originated in England as far as I know. What did Jim use? Hopefully you could arrange a short interview with Jim to get these details?
I thought it was for Jay Lenos car. I know that's how I found this video. I thought that's what he said. I'll have to rewatch to see. It was on the type 57 video Jay Lenos garage.
What a fount of knowledge this man has. One thing a "Cotter Pin" is not the correct name for what you are using through the castellated nut, that is a "Split Pin" a cotter pin is a pin with a tapered flat on it with a smaller diameter threaded potion at the end for a nut. It is usually made to fit and lock a bicycle pedal "con rod / crank" to the bicycle centre crank which has opposing flats at 180 degrees and the Cotter pin tapered flat fits through the con rod/ crank so that the tapered flat engages on the flat on the crankshaft to lock the " con rod/ crank together. If I had some I would photograph then and post because as they say a picture is a thousand words and you would see far more elequolently than I can put into words
really love the craftmanship here, but why did you put back the composite camgears? they dont run that more silent and when they give up, which they will, you'll be in a world of hurt
A fascinating combination of motor engineering and watchmaking. The persistent thumping in the background was an annoying distraction, though. I wish TH-camrs wouldn't add that sort of thing.
When you have a chance, be sure watch Jim Stranberg talk about his passion for giving Bugatti automobiles a second life. th-cam.com/video/Yv3nRuXHdng/w-d-xo.html
This desperately need redesigned with all modern aspects. Fuel injection and variable valve timing. A dohc supercharged/and or turbocharged inline 8 cylinder engine. Now that would be sick. I want to know what that would sound like so bad. Bugatti really should re make a race car like the G tank and update everything like that.
Did similar copper tubing deal for a air injection tubing set up for EO headers on OBD2 Toyota , but not like the wild cats ass tubing threading, nice work, that will last for ever! ...
I'm sure the build is a lot better than factory. It's a shame that it needed a diaper to fix the the oil leak on the dyno, but was probably just a tach drive.
Originally the T57 engine came from the Molsheim factory with a twin-cam 3,257 cc (198 cu in) Inline 8 cylinder producing 135 hp. With the addition of the "C" for "Compresseur" Roots-type supercharger the engine now produces close to 180 hp. Unfortunately I was out of town when they did the power pulls on the engine dyno so I couldn't capture the peak horsepower on video!
You mentioned the importance of ballance. Is the weight of the split pin and lock wire on the rod caps also included and is the rod weight done before or after the addition of babbitt + machining?
Good questions. You balance the crank. The con rods and pistons are in full primary and secondary balance on a straight 8, A builder may weigh each piston and rod and make sure each is closely within some range, removing material from the heaviest.. When that is done, when one lot is up another lot is down etc that is primary balance. Secondary balance is a bit more difficult to explain, but it is because the rotation of the crank means the speed of the pistons varies , it is slow at the bottom of travel and fast approaching TDC and you can imagine if one of a pair is travelling fast and the other slow you will get the secondary imbalance. The whole assembly of piston rod inc. Babbitt should be weighed. That should ensure the smoothest running possible.
Oops two years ago...I'm always doing this... Watch Shed Racing and see a Bugatti roller bearing crank dismantled and put back together by a bit of an old genius.
I was shocked when he said that he was putting copper tube into the aluminium head. Aluminium and copper will react with a galvanic reaction causing the aluminium to be eaten away especially in the presence of hot water. Use steel or aluminium tubes only.
It's too bad nobody had a chance to laser scan the internals while they were out of the motor. Be kinda neat to make replicas to customize but probably Toni expensive.
Lol just a nerd sir. You guys are the only makers of a video of this sort in this detail I've seen on youtube and I've been on youtube since it started. Seriously man people are going to watch this for decades.
@@JoyridePictures We want to listen to the voice of the man explaining his work. It needs no music. The engine sound during the dyno pulls was it's own music. Thanks for your work...you might like to put up the original video with no music as an alternative and emphasise on this one, right at the start, the link to the non-music vid...and see which is more popular in the long run...
Leno sent me, cheers.
This is one of the coolest videos on TH-cam. You don't get to see this much detail in such a rare engine build.
Glad you liked it!
Jay sent me here and I’m grateful he did. Brilliant work. Thank you.
Jim just rebuilt a Bugatti engine for Jay. Wish I could have filmed that one too!
Very interesting video. I've thrown together the odd Jaguar XK engine but always wished I could do one of the Bugatti or Lamborghini engines with those beautiful aluminum castings. Thanks for taking time to document this build of such a rare and wonderful engine. Side criticism: music should never compete with the subject to the point where it becomes noticeable. At several points I was so distracted by trumpets and drums banging on my tympanums I could barely understand the voiceover.
Jay was right, this man is really the best when it comes to these old tech engines. Not to say he'd not do well on new tech but this old tech takes knowledge and a steady hand to get it apart, fixed and back together properly. What a gr8 video. Thank u for sharing it.
Jim Stranberg bleeds Bugatti. Watch the Joyride Pictures Bugatti Craftsman video to learn more about Jim and his passion for bringing these cars back to life.
This gentleman is a treasure. I hope his lifetime of knowledge is being passed down. 👏🏼
Thanks for watching!
Master craftsman at work. And working on a thing of absolute beauty. A joy to behold.
Great video
You are about to get some more views now that Jay Leno mention this
What a beautiful piece of engineering.
what a time capsule of a motor. Thank you both for this in depth explanation of the guts of it all!
Glad you enjoyed the video!
Great video. You dont need any music.
Thanks for watching and for the feedback!
Agreed.
Yes, that noise or music needs to go. It's very annoying.
I've seen several similar engines in Type 35 models. The hand built workmanship were engineering masterpieces.
Equally unique and impressive were the front axles. These were fabricated probably from one piece of steel and highly polished. Each end was curved upwards and fastened directly to the kingpins. But the fascinating part was that the axles had rectangular formed slots with the leaf springs running through.
That’s not an ‘Engine’ that’s a work of Art 👌🏻😎
Agreed. Thanks for watching!
Master of his trade.Fascinating to watch.
Agreed. Enjoyed being a fly on the wall filming Jim in action.
I fell in love with Bugattis in 1968, as a 12 year old kid. Now I see how they did it. I'm just a back yard BS mechanic, but this is just Astounding and Beautiful! I'm gonna watch this 10 more times!!!
I understand the love affair. Bugatti was a artist first with a passion for building automobiles. Be sure to watch the other Joyride Pictures video about Jim Stranberg’s passion for Bugatti and bringing them back to life. Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for posting a nice comment.
Fantastic , probably the best engine ever, a mechanics dream job .A true artist...Kudos..
Absolutely awesome, just wish there was no music so we could hear. At least at the parts where he was talking so we could get all of it. Amazing. Thanks!
Just curious what device you watched the video on? The music was edited way down under the audio so it shouldn’t conflict but you’re not the first person to mention the audio and music mix.
Really enjoyed this amazing build ,, good to know there are a few master mechanics out there doing these fabulous motors
Jim Stranberg is the real deal and has been working on Bugattis for over 40 years! Thanks for watching!
I love watching pros plying their craft. Adapt, Innovate, Upgrade, Overcome!
I'm grateful to being witness of this skill and dedication to the craft.
How wonderful 👍
Fantastic stuff! I really liked the safety wire explanation.
one of the best- learnt so much about engine building in 'general' : ) big thanks for your effort
Happy to see you using a pair of ring spreader pliers instead of doing the spiral trick to install the rings.
Thanks for watching!
This guy is amazing! Good job!
Film's like this will be a invaluable souse of information for future engineers on how to maintain these fantastic cars, as well as great entertainment to me and countless others. Beautiful engineering, worked on by buy true craftsmen well explained and clearly filmed, thank you to all involved.
Glad you enjoyed the video and for your gracious comments.
That sounds fantastic!
WOW, what a clean design.
Agreed!
I saw it in the Camérano workshop in Champigny France
Amazing attention to detail this engineer is a one off thank you a great video D.
The Ford 427 Cammer motors sold for street use have similar tubes in the manifold (it's called a "tunnel port" manifold) to route the push rods directly through the intake ports for the least interruption in airflow. Amazing what Bugatti had thought to do three decades earlier!
That’s awesome, great work
The valve springs are open and almost in a bind. Must not be much duration or lift. Very fascinating too be sure. Thank you for uploading!
I really enjoyed this video. Fantastic to see a piece of art like the Bugatti engine being rebuilt. However, being a mechanical engineer it was worrying to see the mild steel oil pipes running through the water jacket being replaced with copper pipes. I understand the challenge of getting a less pliable material in, but how do you handle the galvanic corrosion where the aluminum would be the material to be offered?
The head/block are cast iron, not alloy
@@pashakdescilly7517, that make a lot more sense
Happy to hear you like the video! Thanks. I learned a lot by watching Jim work his magic bringing the 80+ year old Bugatti engine back to life.
I wondered the same thing, glad to see the question and answer.
Great to see Jim. Tell him Craig Sutherland says hello.
Will do! Thanks for watching.
Jim says hello! :-)
Great stuff!
Made for the most beautiful car ever made.
Fascinating! Who's gonna build these when this guy's gone???
When I asked Jim this same question, he mentioned there are others around the world with a similar passion and would recommend it highly to anyone who cares about restoring and bringing these wonderful machines back to life.
I can dream of being able to say I will but I fear it will always be a fond wish.
Good work!
To grind the valves must be fun :-)
Whoever designed that engine was evil. Incredible workmanship rebuilding that engine
Ettore Bugatti, a man of almost incomparable genius in his field.
@@davidstewart4570 yes, no doubt incredible genius, and zero compassion for the poor guy who might have to work on it one day. I'm not saying if i was that smart I'd care about the little guy either, I'm just pointing out it sucks.
If you don't like Bugatti's T57C, you won't like Harry Miller's racing engines from the same period in time.
@@JoyridePictures i think they're brilliant designs, and absolute works of art and engineering. They were never concerned with maintenance, and with a mentality like that it really takes the limitations away from what can be made. But watching that man use a jewelers tools and techniques to repair the water feed tubes was mind boggling. Never in my life would ive thought that was necessary, rich also is a nod to the man who rebuilt that engine. It's not everyday a Jewelers touch is required in the automotive workd
Ettore was of the famous Bugatti family of Italy. The Bugatti’s were artists. Ettore used his artistic talents and training to great extent when designing his autos. That is why they are as beautiful as they are. He also was a mechanical genius. As I understand, the front axle of his cars was forged in a way that has never been understood.
These were and are the best examples of mechanical art to exist.
Thank you for showing the world the beauty of Bugatti’s works of art.
I'll leave it at awesome, just awesome!
Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@JoyridePictures Subbed just to see what other marvels you bring to light!
@@fredericrike5974 Thank you for subscribing! It means a lot to me! I have a new video series concept in mind so stay tuned...
@@JoyridePictures Your taste in automobilia is pretty close to mine- I'll be here for what ever you drop!
Ahh the days of yore, babbot bearings and safety wire, man im glade insert style bearings and loctite were invented
I think you actually mean 'babbitt'.
Since I was born in 1938, I feel a kind of special kinship with this engine - a year older than I am. I am a mechanic and engine rebuilder with similar skill sets, but I would be delighted to learn more from Jim. Loved the fitment of the new oil tubes. Nice to see Jim's machinist skills. That peened over copper mallet shows a LOT of use.
I wonder if you could edit in the details of the oil pump, and give the hot idle oil pressure and the running oil pressure. Also I saw no sign of gaskets or sealant on most surfaces. I assume that meant extreme care in matching the surfaces? I would be nervous not using a specialty sealant. I have some tubes of blue stuff used on gasket free surfaces on Rolls engines - don't remember the name at the moment. Would there be some arcane reason for not using a bit of that?
Also, is there a car for the engine? Be nice to see this masterpiece doing what it was created for. And finally, on the controversy about the music - I vote for no music. It was a bit distracting, sort of like elevator music in an operating theatre whilst a heart transplant was in progress. Maybe you could create a soundtrack of the engine idling softly with a jazz overlay?
Thanks for watching and commenting on the video. From what I've read about Bugatti engine blocks, the tolerances were so tight that gaskets were not required for sealing. However, Jim did use some sealant where needed. I don't have details on the car that I can share but, I think it's going into a Bugatti Type 64.
@@JoyridePictures Hi, still would like to see the oi; pump/pressure info. The "blue stuff" is called Hylomar, used for extreme tolerance sealing. Originated in England as far as I know. What did Jim use?
Hopefully you could arrange a short interview with Jim to get these details?
Sorry but I don't recall what product Jim used on the sealing surfaces.
I thought it was for Jay Lenos car. I know that's how I found this video. I thought that's what he said. I'll have to rewatch to see. It was on the type 57 video Jay Lenos garage.
Nice video...thanks
Glad you liked it! It was a privilege being a fly on the wall in Jim's shop.
Legend.
Legend Indeed. Thanks for watching.
What a fount of knowledge this man has. One thing a "Cotter Pin" is not the correct name for what you are using through the castellated nut, that is a "Split Pin" a cotter pin is a pin with a tapered flat on it with a smaller diameter threaded potion at the end for a nut. It is usually made to fit and lock a bicycle pedal "con rod / crank" to the bicycle centre crank which has opposing flats at 180 degrees and the Cotter pin tapered flat fits through the con rod/ crank so that the tapered flat engages on the flat on the crankshaft to lock the " con rod/ crank together. If I had some I would photograph then and post because as they say a picture is a thousand words and you would see far more elequolently than I can put into words
Amazing
Nice brief look at what must have taken hundreds of hours to accomplish. BTW, the music doesn’t detract at all.
So, did it make the horses?
Thanks for watching! I do appreciate constructive comments so I can continue to refine my editing skills.
Should have known it is one of these types of videos
haha you ran the engine in on the dyno before it was installed in the car didn't you? Top marks!!
Yes sir!
All that gear whine when they start it up😏😏
really love the craftmanship here, but why did you put back the composite camgears? they dont run that more silent and when they give up, which they will, you'll be in a world of hurt
A fascinating combination of motor engineering and watchmaking. The persistent thumping in the background was an annoying distraction, though. I wish TH-camrs wouldn't add that sort of thing.
Thanks for the comment. I'll re-evaluate music in the next video.
You saved a historic technical Juwel, a true ENGINE - not todays worthless mass plastic junk. Thank you !!
When you have a chance, be sure watch Jim Stranberg talk about his passion for giving Bugatti automobiles a second life. th-cam.com/video/Yv3nRuXHdng/w-d-xo.html
This desperately need redesigned with all modern aspects. Fuel injection and variable valve timing. A dohc supercharged/and or turbocharged inline 8 cylinder engine. Now that would be sick. I want to know what that would sound like so bad. Bugatti really should re make a race car like the G tank and update everything like that.
Did similar copper tubing deal for a air injection tubing set up for EO headers on OBD2 Toyota , but not like the wild cats ass tubing threading, nice work, that will last for ever! ...
Loved the "wild cats ass" metaphor and had to include it in the video!
The engine (undiscussable beautiful) delivers 41 hp/liter. My aircooled Beetle engine approaches that number nearly. Numbers to remind.
Che bellezza!!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Drop the music, I don't hear the old chap speak.
Thanks for watching. I'll re-evaluate music on the next video.
@@JoyridePictures no re visit this one and alter the volume!
I'm sure the build is a lot better than factory. It's a shame that it needed a diaper to fix the the oil leak on the dyno, but was probably just a tach drive.
Thanks for watching the video. The oil leak was a quick fix.
That was an old racing trick called the 9/16 rag , tied on right it makes a few laps or another pass down the strip.
So what were the final power figures?
Originally the T57 engine came from the Molsheim factory with a twin-cam 3,257 cc (198 cu in) Inline 8 cylinder producing 135 hp. With the addition of the "C" for "Compresseur" Roots-type supercharger the engine now produces close to 180 hp. Unfortunately I was out of town when they did the power pulls on the engine dyno so I couldn't capture the peak horsepower on video!
You mentioned the importance of ballance. Is the weight of the split pin and lock wire on the rod caps also included and is the rod weight done before or after the addition of babbitt + machining?
Good questions. You balance the crank. The con rods and pistons are in full primary and secondary balance on a straight 8, A builder may weigh each piston and rod and make sure each is closely within some range, removing material from the heaviest.. When that is done, when one lot is up another lot is down etc that is primary balance. Secondary balance is a bit more difficult to explain, but it is because the rotation of the crank means the speed of the pistons varies , it is slow at the bottom of travel and fast approaching TDC and you can imagine if one of a pair is travelling fast and the other slow you will get the secondary imbalance. The whole assembly of piston rod inc. Babbitt should be weighed. That should ensure the smoothest running possible.
Oops two years ago...I'm always doing this... Watch Shed Racing and see a Bugatti roller bearing crank dismantled and put back together by a bit of an old genius.
I was shocked when he said that he was putting copper tube into the aluminium head. Aluminium and copper will react with a galvanic reaction causing the aluminium to be eaten away especially in the presence of hot water. Use steel or aluminium tubes only.
I don't know why people think they need music in a video?
Thanks for the comment. I'll re-evaluate music in the next video.
How the f... did they cut the valve seats on this!?
Here because of Jay Leno
Thanks Jay for recognizing Jim Stranberg as the preeminent Bugatti builder! It was an honor to document the T57C engine rebuild project!
Came here from Jay Leno's Bugatti clone video
Luvin that funky ass synthesized music.
The music was inspired by Bad Obsession Motorsport videos vibe - when they "Get The Funk Out." th-cam.com/users/BadObsessionMotorsport
In medicine the best one are called surgeon.. in automobile they called surgeon mechanic 😅
Surprising Bugatti used an oiling system like this-just weirdfor this company
in the nhederlands is A men hou ken repair bugatti his name Jan Keizer
Drop the music
I hear you.
It's too bad nobody had a chance to laser scan the internals while they were out of the motor. Be kinda neat to make replicas to customize but probably Toni expensive.
Who are you? Dr. Evil? Yes it would have been fun to scan the parts to document the dimensions for performance and historical purposes.
Lol just a nerd sir. You guys are the only makers of a video of this sort in this detail I've seen on youtube and I've been on youtube since it started. Seriously man people are going to watch this for decades.
I watch so much art deco era car stuff and car stuff in general it recommended this to me again a year later lol
Plumbing lol 7:30
Why use copper? I would lean ss, less galvanic potential.
@@retiredbore378 We do almost everything in stainless, no luck required. (soldering stainless is more challenging, but welding a breeze)
Sorry, i gave up after 3 mins, thats music, if you can call it music was awful
Music is highly subjective. Thanks for your feedback.
@@JoyridePictures The music was way way to loud, and maybe just me, but i really struggled with hearing the talking
Thanks again for the feedback. I’ll continue to work on music selections and levels going forward.
@@JoyridePictures
We want to listen to the voice of the man explaining his work.
It needs no music.
The engine sound during the dyno pulls was it's own music.
Thanks for your work...you might like to put up the original video with no music as an alternative and emphasise on this one, right at the start, the link to the non-music vid...and see which is more popular in the long run...
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37 был хорошим годом. Спасибо за просмотр.
I like sbugatti bollocknaise me.
I'm a mechanic. (Pass))
No emissions test required. :-) Thanks for watching!