After Watching this, I went out and bought a 2012 New Honda CBR 250R. The look of these young men and the so called reviewer, Convinced me that the Honda is the best of all of them.
I bought this cbr 250 same color in 2023 second hand did some macanic works. Using this bike for 20 days engines become smooth milage 41km per liter. Overall good bike
I was going to say man… Isn’t that really choking it?? You’re going from about 125 horsepower for the stock GSX-R600, to a piddly 33 hp for the heavily restricted engine.
Am I missing something. How do you restrict a 125hp 600cc bike down to 33hp? And what would the purpose be? So you only have to buy one bike for each license?
I actually think that's a pretty cool idea. For me, as a rider who is just learning, it's an appealing thought that I could buy one bike that increases power as I increase skill. At least it's more economical than buying a low-power bike to learn, then selling it for a bigger bike later on.
Having owned a full power RS125 for fours years if you are interested in buying one all I will say is this, yes they are awesome fun to ride, very light and nimble and they look good. However, they are very small (if you're big you won't fit very well), servicing is expensive and is required almost constantly, the speedo drive is poxy and breaks all the time, premium oil has to be used and they don't go well in the winter. That being said, own one for a summer and you will love it !
I drive a CBR250R for two years now and I'm happy with it. By the way I'm not a beginner and I drove a lot of powerful bikes. But at the age of 55 I don't need anymore a rocket for the jump to the moon.
I'm glad the States doesn't have new rider restrictions. That said scaled down bikes can be a lot of fun anyway. The cbr especially, light, nimble, low end torque.
The restricted 600cc machine makes a lot more sense than a purpose built 33bhp machine. As soon as the 2 year restriction is up, you'd replace the CBR250 with a bigger bike. With the 600cc machines, you just remove the restriction kit. 400cc machines of about 60-70bhp would be a much better limit and bring back the 400 class. They are probably the most fun that an inexperienced rider can have, whilst giving them a bike that has the power to overtake safely.
Still missing the point. It's not about the cost comparison, you buy a 250 new, once restriction is up you're bored and want to sell it, you lose a stack in depreciation THEN have to fork out on the 600 you really wanted in the first instance, the whole point of this comparison as it's a widely debated topic here is Is a bike that naturally produces 33bhp better than one thats artifically restricted to 33bhp. i.e. buy the bigger one and get it derestricted or stand the loss on the small one!
As far as I am aware it is possible to do your A2 without doing the A1 so you could ride on a CBT until you are 19 then do the A2. In order for you to do the A without doing the A1 or A2 then you would need to be 24yrs old and do a DAS course which is a Direct access course If you were to do the A2 at 19 then you would be able to do the A test after two years. That's why minimum age you can get the A is 21. Hope that helps
It's nothing to do with 'guess some people would rather do it' it's becuase of motorbike learner laws in the UK. If you're under 25 and pass your full test on a 125 you are restricted to a machine producing 33bhp or lower until you are 25 or for 2 years (if you take your test at say 24 yrs old) If you're over 25 you have an option of taking a restricted access test on a 125, above rules then apply or a Direct Access (DAS) test on a larger bike which then allows you to ride any capacity machine.
i failed my test 2 days before the new law was brought was fuckin gutted the new system is a joke they say its all to do with safety but i think most of its to do with money aswell because if you pass your 125 you still have to sit the mods for the new restricted and direct access which almost £300 in the dsa pocket
@Azibiz 370 a year TPFT was 400 Fully comp but i didn't bother as the excess was also 400. I would highly recommend a bandit 600, get used to 33bhp then derestrict it. its freaken crazy!
And then after you tell the government you restricted the Gixxer, you take the restrictor off, add a turbo and an induction cowl, and boom! 33 HP is now 140 HP.
@Antifaith29 I agree with you 100% I also had one of the older ( '89 model) ones and it was a blast. I am however upset with Honda about the new 250 CBR.
actually they do..well kind of..insurance companies are slowly raising the premiums for bigger bikes to keep people off of them. So if you think about it, not far down the road, a newbie won't be able to afford something like a 1000cc. I looked into getting a CBR 1000, I have had 2 600's and a Ducati 748, when I got a quote for a 2012 1000..my jaw hit the floor. I even priced a 2012 600..still a ridiculous price to pay a year for insurance so..the restrictions are happening here in the States.
No it doesn't. The new law is that at 17 you can only have a 125 bike for 2 years. So at 19 you take a test on a 400 bike, this allows you to have any bike as long as its restricted to 47bhp. However when the bike isn't restricted it can't be any bigger that 94bhp (so no r6 etc). So if you take the test at 19, you can then take the next test 2 years after at 21. This allows you to have any bike you want. If u don't take a test at 19, you wait until you're 24 to take the final test.
Im 17 and passed my test 6 months ago now and still on my Yamaha r125. I havnt got the money to get the Yamaha or the gsxr not to mention the insurance cost. But I don’t really want to ride a 80s 400 either. Not sure whether just to get a car and wait until my licence is full power then get a big bike.
Right my friend, it sounds like you need educating about sensibility. You see, some beginners aren't able to handle the bigger bikes, (no offence to beginners as we all start somewhere) so that is why these bikes were made. Just appreciate that people are on 2 wheels. Biking isn't a competition, it is something everyone should enjoy. Also you might need to check the law because i'm quite sure 12 year olds aren't aloud ANY vehicle on the road. And the last thing, these aren't toys.
I've seen it a lot of times that beginners cannot handle a bigger bike properly. So instead of practicing they leave the bike in the garage. With a smaller bike you have an earlier feeling of success and those people continue riding their bikes.
the gsxr has a very different handling from the Aprilia. The Aprilia is a two stroke 125cc.The GSXR is a 600 may be light in terms of big bore bikes but compared to the Aprilia is an elephant. It handles well but it's very different as it takes considerably more effort. It's also more stable though. And the engines are also completely different. Being a 4stroke the GSXR has considerable engine braking, unlike the Aprilia. And the I imagine the acceleration is smoother on the restricted GSXR.
lol another reason I love Texas...at 15 you can get your under 250cc class M, for a 3 day course and a computer test, and a guy follows you around for 6 blocks to make sure you use your turn signals. at 16, the cc limit is automatically lifted, and you can ride whatever you want, no test or anything required. but seriously making them ride slower bikes for a while is probably a good idea, I live 3 miles from the road with the most bike fatalities in the state...most of them are inexperienced.
Hi Guys, I guess my question would one want to purchase a a 600cc moto and choke it off to meet the British requirement? And on top of that the you would spend a lot more for the "600" in initial cost and no doubt a great deal more for fuel. I have owned all types of bikes, the last two were, a KLR 650e and now the CBR250r. I find the CBR so much fun to ride and light to ride. You may ask, "Why am I scaling down? The answer is that I'm 74 years young and find the Honda CRB250r fits my needs.
If you've never passed a motorcycle test before you would need to be 24 to do the DAS and ride what you want but you will be able to take the A test once you have had the A1 for two years though, so if you take the A1 at 19 and pass you could take the A at 21. Hope that makes sense. A1 at 19, once held for 2 yrs (21) can take A, or gain A license at 24 through DAS course if you have no A1 license
Also sports bike tend to be nicked more compared to naked bike, so if your after theft cover your insurance will be higher. All these things contribute to what insurance group each bike will be put in. Super sport are ranked higher in terms of risk so in a more expensive category. Complete opposite for naked bikes.
Do you know that this GSX-R 600 has 33hp? In America we ride bikes at full hp, in a lot of other countries you cant drive any motorcycle on the road unless it has less than 33hp.
Getting a bigger bike restricted is the best option. You have better brakes tyres and road presence. Plus dont have to go through the effort of selling then buying another bike after 2 years. Plus you get used to lugging around a heavy bike
what limitation motorcycle licence for new holder in UK?In Malaysia,for new motorcycle licence holder,they must drive at most 250cc motorcycle and wait 2 years before they can upgrade their licence to B1 licence(600cc-below) or B licence(more 1000cc).But once again they have to retake another driving test for B1 or B only if they want to upgrade their licence..
I thought that if you do the A2, you are only restricted for 2 years. So if you stayed with a bike for those 2 years you could then upgrade to something greater than 35KW without taking the A test.
Id recomend the fazer 600, i got a 54 plate 1 half faired and its a perfect machine loads of torque planty of revs to use, holds the road like shit to a blanket and is perfect for going round town and because of the torque in the engine it makes a good cruiser, just cant wait to get it round a track next :)
actually this aprilia isn't fully opened version, when its fully open it has 29hp also you need to do a little cut on the cdi to fully open it and that gets rid of the drop in power around 4-5k rpms as well and aprilia sounds the best, you get a used one invest a bit get it up to 34hp and you have a proper 125 racer a lot more fun than any other bike in this test 2stroke FTW
Yeah it's not too fair to compare them because the restricted bikes will have much more lower end torque than the 250 and afterwards you can derestrict them to get the full power. It would make much more sense to get a restricted bike if you're planning to get a bigger bike anyway, for those who might not want to move up at least not right away the 250 is a great choice.
People beware, those 250cc bikes example ninja and cbr250 are much smaller then a 600cc. So when upgrading you might be shocked. Best to get a bigger bike with restricted engine so its easy to adjust
Not worth having the GSXR600 there to be honest! Out of all of them I'd chose the XJ6 personally. I'd avoid the CBR250 as it's so expensive and I'd avoid the RS125 as it's still 'only' a 125 and it's a 2-stroke :/ I ride a GPZ500 myself, restricted, and love it! Maybe they should do a more complete test and get some older choices in there too ;)
You won't be able to restrict any bike you want from Jan 2013. The new rules say you can't restrict a bike with more than twice the limit of 35KW. In other words if a bike starts out with more than 70KW of power it won't be able to be restricted and used for A2 riders. This cover just about every 600CC RR bike. So no more buying GSXR 600s and restricting them on the A2 license
And they didnt even hit on the fact that when they get their full licence they can derestrict the bigger bikes with minimal effort and have a decent ride without having to upgrade to new bike a-la CBR250...
this is europe right? knows a dude that owns motorcycle store and such and he says that it have not been told anything about A1 are going to be lifted to 17 from 16, but A2 (47hp) will be from 21 and class A will be from 24... this is Eu btw, again.
From 2013 there will be no automatic upgrade, If you have an A2 then you will have an A2 forever or until you decide to do an A3 test. you would not automatically upgrade to A3 after 2 years
i have a suzuki bandit 650 s and i feel like because of the restriction to 34hp (germany) the motor has no power at all. its a perfect bike for beginners, good handling, very comfortable, good looking (even a bit sporty in my opinion, because of the S-version). i wonder if it is the same with the gsx-r und the yamaha xj6 in this test?
How would having an xj6 affect your insurance compared to having a normal 250 like a cbf (normal as I can think of) does anyone in the UK riding a restricted bike find themselves at any disadvantages? What are the pros and cons?
That's why insurance companies are raising their rates, they are trying to keep people off of the bigger sport bikes. I don't see why anyone would want a 1000 anyway, a regular street rider is never going to use all of it's power.
has no one paid attention to what this test is about! its not a 250 test at all its a test to show you what different style of bikes you can have on a restricted licence and thats why theyve got a de restricted 125 a 250 a street bike restricted and a sports bike restricted people should really start thinking before they post comments
@rickytube01 but they are all starter bikes right??? the aprilia Rs125 has about the same HP as the other 125cc's that i mentioned, they should test them all, because this vid is about your first bike and thats very important.
Ive been riding for a few years so its not really relivent for me, just curious as to weather or not once you have restricted the r6 if you can undo it at a later date. Would make sense if you could, save you spending too much when youre ready to step it up a bit. Sorry if its a stupid question , whilst ive been riding a while, my mechanical knowlege is limited at best , i know how to change my oil,air filters check and tighten my chain and thats about it lol.
rs 2 stroke is funny but i would personally go for an restricted rs 250 compare to the 125. A 2nd hand 250 don`t cost much more and sometimes not more at all. Then they have also more bike when old enough to ride unrestricted age 20,i guess. On the other hand if price don`t matter at all, i would gp for the 2nd hand gsx-r 600 and have it restricted. Can ride 125cc in europe at age 16,means 2 years learning before resticket 600 at age 18. The bike has same handling,weight etc as those unrestricted. Then the rider has more experience when drive it unrestricted at age 20.When i was age 16-18, we could only ride up to 100cc but it was no restricted bikes then and at age 18, unlimited cc and hp
Well I'd buy a used 3/4 year old Honda CBR250 for £2k and commute in style. I'd rather have one of these instead of a tatty ER500 or GPZ500. Try finding the other bikes for that money? 🤔
@sicknwrong its alot more powerful that most 125s its lighter cheaper cheaper to insure more economical several reasons mate also think about this, whats best? a big bike you're scared of every time you open up the throttle because you lack experience, or a small 125/250 where you can hammer it and make the bike work? i know what i'd choose plus, if your on a motorway, the aprilla is fast enough, if your in town/city you want an agile, light and nimble bike (at least to start with)
Yes this is Europe I'm talking about. It might be different in terms of age on the mainland like 16 rather than 17 and 18 rather 19. I am talking about the UK in terms of age groups. I think on mainland Europe they might be able to do everything 1 year earlier.
You don't understand... the bikes are restricted to 33bhp and therefore will perform much different than normal. A full powered RS125 will probably outrun the 33bhp restricted GSXR600.
@sicknwrong completely agree im in the market for a 600cc now so i can get it restricted until i can get my full license where i live, motorcycles are ideal, and 125 is pleanty as the max speed is 50kph if i go on the motorway, i use the car. but when i move to england im considering getting a 600cc and just restricting it 250's are alot of money for a few years of riding
when i pass my test im getting a honda dominator , or soemthing along those lines , dominator is 650cc ,(obviously restricted , only 45bhp or something anyways) coming from a 125. the dominator has a bigger engine than my dads r6 and my mums bandit (both are 600cc) and i dont doubt it will be alot heavier than my honda nx 125 :) Its a risk but its worth it :)
Why would anyone think a 33hp 250r cant beat a 33hp 600?? The gearing on 600's are so long compared to a 250r and a think the 250r would weight a great bit less. @ 33hp I think the 600's are actually at a disadvantage as the gears will be too long for the 65 percent hp loss!
id take the honda 250 on any day. like the saying goes "It's more fun to ride a slow bike fast than to ride a fast bike slow"
After Watching this, I went out and bought a 2012 New Honda CBR 250R. The look of these young men and the so called reviewer, Convinced me that the Honda is the best of all of them.
😂😂
Lmaooo. Does it still hold up?
Ditto, these guys have convinced me to buy the Honda.
I bought this cbr 250 same color in 2023 second hand did some macanic works. Using this bike for 20 days engines become smooth milage 41km per liter. Overall good bike
Restricting that gsxr is choking it a bit isn't it?
A bit? =P
I was going to say man… Isn’t that really choking it?? You’re going from about 125 horsepower for the stock GSX-R600, to a piddly 33 hp for the heavily restricted engine.
Am I missing something. How do you restrict a 125hp 600cc bike down to 33hp? And what would the purpose be? So you only have to buy one bike for each license?
Which bike was the mop head dissin at the end there? I cudnt really figure it out with the wind noise....
I actually think that's a pretty cool idea. For me, as a rider who is just learning, it's an appealing thought that I could buy one bike that increases power as I increase skill. At least it's more economical than buying a low-power bike to learn, then selling it for a bigger bike later on.
Having owned a full power RS125 for fours years if you are interested in buying one all I will say is this, yes they are awesome fun to ride, very light and nimble and they look good. However, they are very small (if you're big you won't fit very well), servicing is expensive and is required almost constantly, the speedo drive is poxy and breaks all the time, premium oil has to be used and they don't go well in the winter. That being said, own one for a summer and you will love it !
WTF?! a 33hp GSX-R600 - how in the hell do you manage that? Restrict it to 5,000rpm???
I drive a CBR250R for two years now and I'm happy with it. By the way I'm not a beginner and I drove a lot of powerful bikes. But at the age of 55 I don't need anymore a rocket for the jump to the moon.
noway tht 1st guy is 19 he look 26
+V4vivod R I know right! I'm 19 and if I trim what little facial hair I have and cut my long hair then I'll look like a guy from Year 10.
Just get the gixxer and glue on a bullshit restrictor kit. That way if you stack it, it will still look like it had the kit on it, for insurance.
I'm glad the States doesn't have new rider restrictions. That said scaled down bikes can be a lot of fun anyway. The cbr especially, light, nimble, low end torque.
@joshshoot what has the duke 125 and yamaha 125 got anything to do with a 33hp test? they only have around 15 hp
The restricted 600cc machine makes a lot more sense than a purpose built 33bhp machine.
As soon as the 2 year restriction is up, you'd replace the CBR250 with a bigger bike. With the 600cc machines, you just remove the restriction kit.
400cc machines of about 60-70bhp would be a much better limit and bring back the 400 class. They are probably the most fun that an inexperienced rider can have, whilst giving them a bike that has the power to overtake safely.
Still missing the point.
It's not about the cost comparison, you buy a 250 new, once restriction is up you're bored and want to sell it, you lose a stack in depreciation THEN have to fork out on the 600 you really wanted in the first instance, the whole point of this comparison as it's a widely debated topic here is
Is a bike that naturally produces 33bhp better than one thats artifically restricted to 33bhp.
i.e. buy the bigger one and get it derestricted or stand the loss on the small one!
As far as I am aware it is possible to do your A2 without doing the A1 so you could ride on a CBT until you are 19 then do the A2.
In order for you to do the A without doing the A1 or A2 then you would need to be 24yrs old and do a DAS course which is a Direct access course
If you were to do the A2 at 19 then you would be able to do the A test after two years. That's why minimum age you can get the A is 21.
Hope that helps
This is a bit strange as you can, basically, restrict any big bike, why choose only the XJ and GSXR?
Top sound quality as usual!!!
Thought ot was 47bhp after passing your big bike test? Correct me if im wrong
since January 2013 but this was made before then!
It's nothing to do with 'guess some people would rather do it' it's becuase of motorbike learner laws in the UK.
If you're under 25 and pass your full test on a 125 you are restricted to a machine producing 33bhp or lower until you are 25 or for 2 years (if you take your test at say 24 yrs old)
If you're over 25 you have an option of taking a restricted access test on a 125, above rules then apply or a Direct Access (DAS) test on a larger bike which then allows you to ride any capacity machine.
i failed my test 2 days before the new law was brought was fuckin gutted the new system is a joke they say its all to do with safety but i think most of its to do with money aswell because if you pass your 125 you still have to sit the mods for the new restricted and direct access which almost £300 in the dsa pocket
You can still get a 33 bhp Aprilia or 26bhp Honda nsr 125 on a cbt
I almost forgot that the Aprilia is the only two stroke which means great soul but also lots of smoke, and consumption of oil besides gas
you should do a comparison between honda cbr 125, yamaha YZF-R125 and aprilia RS4 125.
he should be the guy that played the cop in 21'st jump street LOL
@Azibiz 370 a year TPFT was 400 Fully comp but i didn't bother as the excess was also 400. I would highly recommend a bandit 600, get used to 33bhp then derestrict it. its freaken crazy!
Looking at the Honda CBR250 at the 45 second mark and thinking how good it would look with a 1966 Batman TV Batbike paint job....
So European law says after you get your license you can only ride a 33hp bike? That sucks! Thank God for America!
And then after you tell the government you restricted the Gixxer, you take the restrictor off, add a turbo and an induction cowl, and boom! 33 HP is now 140 HP.
@Antifaith29
I agree with you 100% I also had one of the older ( '89 model) ones and it was a blast. I am however upset with Honda about the new 250 CBR.
33bhp restrictions! ? That sucks... where is that where they have these restrictions?
actually they do..well kind of..insurance companies are slowly raising the premiums for bigger bikes to keep people off of them. So if you think about it, not far down the road, a newbie won't be able to afford something like a 1000cc. I looked into getting a CBR 1000, I have had 2 600's and a Ducati 748, when I got a quote for a 2012 1000..my jaw hit the floor. I even priced a 2012 600..still a ridiculous price to pay a year for insurance so..the restrictions are happening here in the States.
No it doesn't. The new law is that at 17 you can only have a 125 bike for 2 years. So at 19 you take a test on a 400 bike, this allows you to have any bike as long as its restricted to 47bhp. However when the bike isn't restricted it can't be any bigger that 94bhp (so no r6 etc). So if you take the test at 19, you can then take the next test 2 years after at 21. This allows you to have any bike you want. If u don't take a test at 19, you wait until you're 24 to take the final test.
the cbr250r designed to get the 33 horse power limit? it´s only 26 hp. how can you compare such different bikes in engine construction and aims?
Im 17 and passed my test 6 months ago now and still on my Yamaha r125. I havnt got the money to get the Yamaha or the gsxr not to mention the insurance cost. But I don’t really want to ride a 80s 400 either. Not sure whether just to get a car and wait until my licence is full power then get a big bike.
I was just hoping that because I have the A2 it would be "upgraded" next year!
Right my friend, it sounds like you need educating about sensibility. You see, some beginners aren't able to handle the bigger bikes, (no offence to beginners as we all start somewhere) so that is why these bikes were made. Just appreciate that people are on 2 wheels. Biking isn't a competition, it is something everyone should enjoy. Also you might need to check the law because i'm quite sure 12 year olds aren't aloud ANY vehicle on the road. And the last thing, these aren't toys.
I've seen it a lot of times that beginners cannot handle a bigger bike properly. So instead of practicing they leave the bike in the garage. With a smaller bike you have an earlier feeling of success and those people continue riding their bikes.
the gsxr has a very different handling from the Aprilia. The Aprilia is a two stroke 125cc.The GSXR is a 600 may be light in terms of big bore bikes but compared to the Aprilia is an elephant. It handles well but it's very different as it takes considerably more effort. It's also more stable though. And the engines are also completely different. Being a 4stroke the GSXR has considerable engine braking, unlike the Aprilia. And the I imagine the acceleration is smoother on the restricted GSXR.
lol another reason I love Texas...at 15 you can get your under 250cc class M, for a 3 day course and a computer test, and a guy follows you around for 6 blocks to make sure you use your turn signals. at 16, the cc limit is automatically lifted, and you can ride whatever you want, no test or anything required.
but seriously making them ride slower bikes for a while is probably a good idea, I live 3 miles from the road with the most bike fatalities in the state...most of them are inexperienced.
Hi Guys, I guess my question would one want to purchase a a 600cc moto and choke it off to meet the British requirement? And on top of that the you would spend a lot more for the "600" in initial cost and no doubt a great deal more for fuel. I have owned all types of bikes, the last two were, a KLR 650e and now the CBR250r. I find the CBR so much fun to ride and light to ride. You may ask, "Why am I scaling down?
The answer is that I'm 74 years young and find the Honda CRB250r fits my needs.
Gixxers the sexiest.. No idea what to get right now, rode a year on a CBR 125 and it's getting to the point where I just want more power.
If you've never passed a motorcycle test before you would need to be 24 to do the DAS and ride what you want but you will be able to take the A test once you have had the A1 for two years though, so if you take the A1 at 19 and pass you could take the A at 21. Hope that makes sense.
A1 at 19, once held for 2 yrs (21) can take A, or
gain A license at 24 through DAS course if you have no A1 license
forgot this new cbr250... the old 91 cbr250rr was a beast w/ 40Hp and 19,000rpms.
Also sports bike tend to be nicked more compared to naked bike, so if your after theft cover your insurance will be higher.
All these things contribute to what insurance group each bike will be put in.
Super sport are ranked higher in terms of risk so in a more expensive category.
Complete opposite for naked bikes.
Do you know that this GSX-R 600 has 33hp? In America we ride bikes at full hp, in a lot of other countries you cant drive any motorcycle on the road unless it has less than 33hp.
4 days after I turned 16 I got to take an Aprilia RSV4 down the toll road. I didn't die, but a lot of people do.
how do you get a gsxr 600 all the way down to 33hp??? take off 3 of the spark plug leads?!?!
Those bikes will still reach speeds quickly regardless of the restriction and if they come off at least they got protection,
the first guy did not look 19 lool
"Feels like the Suzuki has a bit more power" yes mate, thats because the Aprilla is a 125 and the Suzuki is a FRIGGIN 600!
Getting a bigger bike restricted is the best option. You have better brakes tyres and road presence. Plus dont have to go through the effort of selling then buying another bike after 2 years. Plus you get used to lugging around a heavy bike
what limitation motorcycle licence for new holder in UK?In Malaysia,for new motorcycle licence holder,they must drive at most 250cc motorcycle and wait 2 years before they can upgrade their licence to B1 licence(600cc-below) or B licence(more 1000cc).But once again they have to retake another driving test for B1 or B only if they want to upgrade their licence..
I thought that if you do the A2, you are only restricted for 2 years. So if you stayed with a bike for those 2 years you could then upgrade to something greater than 35KW without taking the A test.
would of been nice to see a comparison on the different engine sizes performance wise
Can you ride on the motorway with a 125cc bike with the A1 licence.
Also with the A1 will you have L plates and can you carry passengers?
Id recomend the fazer 600, i got a 54 plate 1 half faired and its a perfect machine loads of torque planty of revs to use, holds the road like shit to a blanket and is perfect for going round town and because of the torque in the engine it makes a good cruiser, just cant wait to get it round a track next :)
actually this aprilia isn't fully opened version, when its fully open it has 29hp
also you need to do a little cut on the cdi to fully open it and that gets rid of the drop in power around 4-5k rpms as well
and aprilia sounds the best, you get a used one invest a bit get it up to 34hp and you have a proper 125 racer a lot more fun than any other bike in this test
2stroke FTW
does this video still apply anymore with the new laws?
OMG! a GSXR 600 with 33hp? thats just sad :( Here in South Africa you can ride a turbo busa or whatever you want at 18...
the gsxr is a 600 not anywhere close to 250 dafuq???
then why is it in the competition
+william sills it's restricted so it's the same power
Yeah it's not too fair to compare them because the restricted bikes will have much more lower end torque than the 250 and afterwards you can derestrict them to get the full power.
It would make much more sense to get a restricted bike if you're planning to get a bigger bike anyway, for those who might not want to move up at least not right away the 250 is a great choice.
So it's a req in the UK(?) that you must ride a 33 bhp or lower bike for 2 yrs before riding anything bigger? Wow!
26hp bike vs 33, 33, 33! People will feel the difference.
Do ppl in Britan really keep the restrictions after they've bought the bike?
People beware, those 250cc bikes example ninja and cbr250 are much smaller then a 600cc. So when upgrading you might be shocked. Best to get a bigger bike with restricted engine so its easy to adjust
Not worth having the GSXR600 there to be honest! Out of all of them I'd chose the XJ6 personally. I'd avoid the CBR250 as it's so expensive and I'd avoid the RS125 as it's still 'only' a 125 and it's a 2-stroke :/ I ride a GPZ500 myself, restricted, and love it! Maybe they should do a more complete test and get some older choices in there too ;)
You won't be able to restrict any bike you want from Jan 2013. The new rules say you can't restrict a bike with more than twice the limit of 35KW. In other words if a bike starts out with more than 70KW of power it won't be able to be restricted and used for A2 riders. This cover just about every 600CC RR bike. So no more buying GSXR 600s and restricting them on the A2 license
And they didnt even hit on the fact that when they get their full licence they can derestrict the bigger bikes with minimal effort and have a decent ride without having to upgrade to new bike a-la CBR250...
this is europe right? knows a dude that owns motorcycle store and such and he says that it have not been told anything about A1 are going to be lifted to 17 from 16, but A2 (47hp) will be from 21 and class A will be from 24... this is Eu btw, again.
more interested in the GSR 750 in the background
From 2013 there will be no automatic upgrade, If you have an A2 then you will have an A2 forever or until you decide to do an A3 test. you would not automatically upgrade to A3 after 2 years
i have a suzuki bandit 650 s and i feel like because of the restriction to 34hp (germany) the motor has no power at all. its a perfect bike for beginners, good handling, very comfortable, good looking (even a bit sporty in my opinion, because of the S-version).
i wonder if it is the same with the gsx-r und the yamaha xj6 in this test?
How would having an xj6 affect your insurance compared to having a normal 250 like a cbf (normal as I can think of) does anyone in the UK riding a restricted bike find themselves at any disadvantages? What are the pros and cons?
That's why insurance companies are raising their rates, they are trying to keep people off of the bigger sport bikes. I don't see why anyone would want a 1000 anyway, a regular street rider is never going to use all of it's power.
has no one paid attention to what this test is about! its not a 250 test at all its a test to show you what different style of bikes you can have on a restricted licence and thats why theyve got a de restricted 125 a 250 a street bike restricted and a sports bike restricted people should really start thinking before they post comments
@rickytube01 but they are all starter bikes right??? the aprilia Rs125 has about the same HP as the other 125cc's that i mentioned, they should test them all, because this vid is about your first bike and thats very important.
Given these four I'd go gixxer hands down, although each to his own, know alot of guys who like the cbr250
Ive been riding for a few years so its not really relivent for me, just curious as to weather or not once you have restricted the r6 if you can undo it at a later date. Would make sense if you could, save you spending too much when youre ready to step it up a bit. Sorry if its a stupid question , whilst ive been riding a while, my mechanical knowlege is limited at best , i know how to change my oil,air filters check and tighten my chain and thats about it lol.
@adoniscomplex depends what test you do. you can do it if your 21 or over on a big bike but you can also pass on a 125 and have 2 years restriction
rs 2 stroke is funny but i would personally go for an restricted rs 250 compare to the 125. A 2nd hand 250 don`t cost much more and sometimes not more at all. Then they have also more bike when old enough to ride unrestricted age 20,i guess. On the other hand if price don`t matter at all, i would gp for the 2nd hand gsx-r 600 and have it restricted. Can ride 125cc in europe at age 16,means 2 years learning before resticket 600 at age 18. The bike has same handling,weight etc as those unrestricted. Then the rider has more experience when drive it unrestricted at age 20.When i was age 16-18, we could only ride up to 100cc but it was no restricted bikes then and at age 18, unlimited cc and hp
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Well I'd buy a used 3/4 year old Honda CBR250 for £2k and commute in style. I'd rather have one of these instead of a tatty ER500 or GPZ500. Try finding the other bikes for that money? 🤔
@sicknwrong its alot more powerful that most 125s
its lighter
cheaper
cheaper to insure
more economical
several reasons mate
also think about this, whats best? a big bike you're scared of every time you open up the throttle because you lack experience, or a small 125/250 where you can hammer it and make the bike work?
i know what i'd choose
plus, if your on a motorway, the aprilla is fast enough, if your in town/city you want an agile, light and nimble bike (at least to start with)
33hp? hell no! I hope that never happens here in the states! I know my bandits 105hp and 84lbs of torque isnt the fastest thing but damn!
Yes this is Europe I'm talking about. It might be different in terms of age on the mainland like 16 rather than 17 and 18 rather 19. I am talking about the UK in terms of age groups. I think on mainland Europe they might be able to do everything 1 year earlier.
You don't understand... the bikes are restricted to 33bhp and therefore will perform much different than normal. A full powered RS125 will probably outrun the 33bhp restricted GSXR600.
@sicknwrong completely agree
im in the market for a 600cc now so i can get it restricted until i can get my full license
where i live, motorcycles are ideal, and 125 is pleanty as the max speed is 50kph
if i go on the motorway, i use the car.
but when i move to england im considering getting a 600cc and just restricting it
250's are alot of money for a few years of riding
@Crana Except.. you will have to get another bike when your 2 year limit is up.
@virtual120 This isn't a 250 comparison test - that's been done already.
although my first bike is gsxr600
but i do agree new riders should restricted below certain hp
@junkmanu2 but a moped is a motorbike driven by pedals? where are the pedals on the aprillia :P?
If you do an A1 at 17 can you just ride a 125, it doesnt run out like a cbt. Pillion etc?
The last guy rides an ajs r12? Thats a bike from the 30's if im not mistaken
The best 33bhp bike is any bike that is 33 bhp. Great conclusion.
when i pass my test im getting a honda dominator , or soemthing along those lines , dominator is 650cc ,(obviously restricted , only 45bhp or something anyways) coming from a 125. the dominator has a bigger engine than my dads r6 and my mums bandit (both are 600cc) and i dont doubt it will be alot heavier than my honda nx 125 :) Its a risk but its worth it :)
A classic comparison of apples and oranges.
Why would anyone think a 33hp 250r cant beat a 33hp 600?? The gearing on 600's are so long compared to a 250r and a think the 250r would weight a great bit less. @ 33hp I think the 600's are actually at a disadvantage as the gears will be too long for the 65 percent hp loss!
17 AND PASSED MY TEST ON DEC 10 2012!!
NEXT BIKE WILL BE
XJ6 or SV 650, or r6
but if your a new rider coming from a 125 bike 33bhp gsxr600 will still be plenty fast for you because you won't know any better
it is a bit silly - i will go to France pass my bike test and next day in UK i can ride - 1000cc how is that ?