"they tend to be...a little bit more than a beginner can handle" Wonderful recommendation for a video entirely about beginners Yam, glad to know you're looking out for us
The bikes this guy is putting on his "D" list are the ones most people want. Most people want a good combination of looks, performance, reliability and affordability, and all of the bikes in this category deliver on those things.
@@char9550 depends on what you are gonna do the r3 and ninja 300 engines dont have much torque but have decent top speeds so you can do highways pretty easily etc it all just depends on the bike tbh and what you are gonna do with it
Anything over 300cc is too much. I was suggested a 600 and it was just too massive. I am looking for a bike to have fun and not get messed up really bad, but 500cc+ is not good for a beginner. It makes me wonder if I honestly should be listening to this dude. He suggests a bigger bike so you can avoid buying an upgrade after a season, this dude plays too many video games. Some of us just wants something to make the commute more enjoyable
@@ThePeacePlant a 600cc is gonna be wayy different than a 650 or even a 700, an r6 (599cc) puts down over 100 hp, while the ninja 650 puts down only around 50 hp and is made more for commuting, trust yammie, he knows what he's talking about
Anything that has more than 300cc is better. The elasticity of the engine improves drastically and makes u actually enjoy the punchy nature that they have. 350-450 is the sweet spot for the most amount of fun on a motorcycle. There's a reason everyone asks for 350cc supermotos
@@shuttzi9878 350cc supermotos? Yeah right. Proper supermotos of 250-300cc 4-strokes can produce 35-45hp while weighing around 100-110kg. A CRF 250R enduro produces way more power than a beginner even needs so there is absolutely no reason to go for a supermoto that would be like a KTM EXC 350. That would get a beginner killed.
@@I_THE_ME There's a reason A reason being reliability and the range of torque. Yes u can achieve 45 HP with EXC 300-350 but the unreliability of it is astonishing. The reason why EXC us so light is obviously because its also FUCKING EXPENSIVE. EXC couldnt work on the road, its just too light to handle high speeds and overall dualsport stuff. If u think that R3 Engine could work offroad without any problems then sorry you're wrong, same with Ninja 400. There's a reason why the KLX 300 is such a drag. Yes it couldve had more hps but that would make it break more often and require much more service over time. 350 cc dualsport or supermotos would strike near perfect balance between usable power and reliability while still being light, that's why people want it. Not the competition type 350cc, the usable and reliable 350cc type of engine.
Yam! Thank you so much for this list!! I was on the fence for about a week but after this video I went out and bought my first bike based on your recommendation! Had a blast riding it around and I’m already looking forward to getting out of the hospital to try it again!!
Okay, I don't want to criticize this guy's work but I disagree with his points and choices with everything that I've got. The bikes on A/B tiers are, in my opinion, *not* beginners bike. I'll let him have it as maybe a second bike, buy if you've never rode a bike in your life, do *not* start at 600cc or 1000cc. Start small and build your way up. Bigger bikes are heavier, harder to control, they can go to a very high velocity in mere seconds and you might lose control of the bike and have an accident... i know people who started at those levels and are still alive, sure, but I don't recommend taking chances on a bike because a little mistake can end your life, and riding a powerful motorcycle increases the risk of something bad happening, and EVEN MORE when you don't have experience riding smaller bikes. My second point is: money. If you're on a budget, you need to consider the bigger and more expensive the bike, the more expensive is anything related to it: tires, revision, repair, fuel etc so besides the higher price you're going to pay for the bike, the bigger your expenses with it. And number three: if you have a budget, don't buy the bike first. My tip is go to a bike store, buy some good protection gear and then see your budget. Good protection gear can be really expensive, but you need to care more about your well being than if you're going to ride fast or not. So, imo: 300cc is perfect for a beginner. Hell, even 150cc or 250cc is good enough to learn the basics. Yamaha and Honda are two reliable brands, so if you buy a CB300 or a MT-03, you'll be in good hands. Don't worry. The list he put together is as if Worst car for begginers: civic Best car for begginers: a corvette. Do you see how bad that sounds? So then you understand my points. Anyway, good riddance, don't buy a 1000cc if you've never rode a bike
When exactly did he tell you to get a 1000 or 600cc motorcycle. In the a and b tiers the highest displacement engine was 373cc. There is’nt one point in this video that tells you that a 1000cc motorcycle is the best Moto to get. If you watch any of his other beginner motorcycle videos he says and I quote, “1000cc is probably the worst possible motorcycle you could get.”
@@KingKofi01 I may have been halfway wrong with the 600cc engine displacement but the other half I feel I am right about. If you listen to his words on the b tier, where most the 600cc recommendations are, you will hear him say that these motorcycles may be a little bit more than what a beginner can handle but if this were your starter bike this could also be your finisher bike. He did not fully state wether or not you should buy the b tier because anything in that category and below was either outdated or slightly overpowered. These are his words
Your point about how it is like best car for beginners is corvette and worst car for beginners is civic your almost there. He says something more along the lines of civic best car for beginners corvette is a little more than a beginner can handle and Ford model t along with Lamborghini is worst car fo beginner. The best motorcycles are in the a and s tier therefore making them nothing like corvette
After watching this, I would agree with the A and S tier bikes. But for any new to riding biker, I have to say always, (I cannot stress this enough) ALWAYS make sure your bike is under 600cc. Not just because the bike will be lighter. The bigger the bike the more power it has, the bigger the mistake and the more it can become the last bike you ever ride. Granted they knocked the honda 300cc bikes. Starting out riding, I actually do suggest them because they are slow, so you can get use to leaning, learning to turn, and understanding your gear shifting and how everything works without destroying your own gear box on a much more pricey bike. They actually come pretty cheap used as well. If you are like me and live more in a city than the suburban or country side, riding is a lot more different. Having a slower bike really makes it easy for you to build up that natural reflex of looking all around you when going through intersections, or coming to stops. Something like a 650cc might seem cool. You will keep it for a long time. But every starting/beginner biker needs to get their head around the fact they will drop, wreak, or fall off their bike at one point or another. 600cc or more you fall off that bike going fast or being dumb and your odds of wanting to fix and ride it again, or getting back on ever again drop a lot. At least falling off something more light, less powerful can really help you understand what to expect when that day comes. Trust me, I have fallen off before hitting gravel while being cut off. It sucks when you are going 35mph and you just land full force bike and all onto the pavement while moving even with a jacket on. Keep that in mind.
I’m leaving for the Marine Corps in June and my papaw has been riding for years and he is going to show me how to ride, I don’t have a whole lotta money, any recommendations?
Yammie hurt his credibility with this one! His partner did a video riding the Duke 390, and said he would have to take his hands off the bars at stop lights or they would go numb from all the vibration. Yes, that's exactly how you want to introduce a newbie to the world of motorcycling. Others have recommended the 300's and 400's for beginners for obvious reasons, and your recommendations sound more like something for an intermediate adrenaline junkie!
I have powersports bar end mirrors on my 390 and the vibrations isn't all that even with the end weights 86d. I've also been riding for 4 decades and have owned everything from CR & KX500s to liter bikes to a Busa and a 2017 H2. My big bike days are behind me. The little Duke is fun enough in the twisties.
I feel like the z400 really deserves to be higher up on the list. You can get it anywhere. It's cheap and reliable. Fuel consumption is ridiculously low. It sounds great with 2 cylinders. Literally THE perfect beginner bike in my opinion.
ninja 400 rider here, i agree with this statement. he says "the most popular beginner sportbikes" then says "it's getting long in the tooth" and smacks it in D-tier. am i the only one who said "HUH"
@@dylanc2806 I see the Ninja 400 as A tier. Only reason I don't see it as S is because to me only 1 should be there, and that'll be the r7, though an argument can be made for the Ninja 650 too. If the R7 didn't exist I'd definitely put the Ninja 650 in S, since it is a little above the 400.
Honda Rebel 1100 DCT is a good beginner bike because DCT transmissions from Honda motorcycles functions like a automatic and that prevents a lot of the problems beginners have because of the manual transmission and clutch system then you have the other things you have to do removing just one thing that you brain has to do is a good thing because the brain can that for other things that motorcyclist have to do.
@@rustybeatty6567 I'd say that it's a bad beginner bike for exactly that reason. Learning how to use the clutch is an integral part of riding, and it'll probably just be harder to learn later on, plus it's probably easy to build bad habits, especially when it comes to slow speed maneuvers, when you don't learn how to use the clutch properly from the beginning.
@@Domitianvs not exactly true because in time electric motorcycles will replace gasoline engine powered ones and they don't have gears to shift so shifting a motorcycle isn't necessary and is it really necessary the same arguments were made a cars years ago.
@@namelikeanyother885 "forced"? Get real. Electric bikes are still at a very early stage, far from being in a prince range where they will be even remotely considered beginner bikes. And even when they start being more widely available and affordable, it's not like the gasoline powered bike is going anywhere anytime soon, I think there will still be decades of people getting into bikes for the sheer reason of "twist throttle, go VROOM", which is why motor bikes have appealed to people for over a century. So no, I hardly think that people will "be forced" to not use a clutch in any reasonably forseeable future.
Call me crazy but those bikes you criticized for being "underpowered"... I don't want a speedy bike to learn how to ride on. I don't want something that's gonna pop a wheelie and go flying out from under me if I crank the gas a little too hard. Like yeah, I'm sure for an experienced rider those Honda 300's are boring, but I'd rather be bored than injured or dead.
MT03 is a fantastic beginner bike. Super comfortable, reliable, and affordable (especially used). Bought mine for 4K with not even 1,000 miles on it +upgrades that came on it. I definitely recommend a smaller bike for beginners. You can go higher displacement if you want, but for the money a smaller bike will do everything you want it to
I don’t know if you’ll see this but people are recommending me the MT-07 because I’m a bit bigger than most people. Should I not go with their suggestion and look at the MT-03. For reference, I’m 6’4” 220. I’m nervous about the amount of engine the 07 has.
@@joedoggm MT07 is a great bike. It’s what I will upgrade to at some point in the future. Honestly, you have to decide what works best for you. Price and comfort is something to look out for as well as a multitude of different factors (where you are riding etc.) And you can go sit on bikes to see what feels better. Some people get a bigger displacement bike to not go through the hassle of selling and upgrading. I am not that person though. As for size, I’ve read mixed reviews for taller riders for the MT03. For the most part, it’s generally been good with no comfort or handling issues. I found some Reddit posts about it that you can look at to see what people say. Either way you look at both bikes are killer. I’ll recommend anything Yamaha does bc of cheap parts and reliability along with great performance. But it’s totally on what you feel comfortable with. You might get the MT03 while keeping in mind that you may upgrade a year or less later, but if you’re cool with that go for it (I don’t think you’ll have a problem selling it if you go that route in my opinion). Apologies for the long reply lol. There’s just a lot of information. Just get what you’re comfortable with and don’t let others try to steer you in any direction that you’re not.
D are the best usual choices for a beginner bike tier C are boring but practical and logical bikes (Compared to the competition) tier B is the most logical and future proof bikes that are actually fun tier A is the best value and fun beginner bikes tier S tier is bikes that are the most fun, practical and easy to learn for a begginer rider tier (these bikes will be fun even 10 yrs from now, trust me)
i like how he putted 250 bikes at E and F tier for beginners and putted +500c v2 and v4 bikes on C and B personally i think those 250cc with 30hp and less are best for beginners
So on the way up from the bottom, low cost low displacement bad, higher cost higher displacement more gooder. And if you want top of the heap, has to be able to go off road. Got it. Great advice.
I personally ride MT-03 as my first bike and love it. Everything except price though. But it has nice engine, it can speed up really fast and feels nice with 130 km/h on a highway. But taking 600cc/70+hp as first bike is... quite confident.
What do you think of the Honda 500 for a beginner bike? I’m on the bigger side of 220 lbs and haven’t ridden much beside a little dirt bike when I was 8 or 10
I've been riding for 4 decades. Owned everything from CR & KX500s to liter bikes, a Busa, and a 2017 H2. My big bike days are behind me. Bought a 2022 390 Duke, added a fender eliminator, bar end mirrors(Powerparts,) a bunch of Trex stuff, and a LeoVince LV Pro Carbon to it and it's a blast in the twisties which is where I ride predominantly anymore. No more track days for this old coot. Might buy an 890 down the road as well but realized long ago large displacement bikes are pretty pointless on the street as you really can never uncork them safely or legally. Also had a buddy on a ZX10 die right in front of me while on a Gixxer stack so that changed my riding habits quite a bit. Be safe out there folks.
Thanks for sharing. I've heard similar comments in the Duke 390 forums. I'm close to 50 and really am enjoying my Duke 390. Your comments help me keep the curiosity of having a faster bike from getting the best of me. I'm not sure how people avoid loosing their licences with anything faster and taking corners is a hoot on the 390.
Most beginners dont have that much cash to land a 500cc parallel twin. The Honda cb300r is a great beginner bike. Also, starting on a naked street bike is better than a sportbike like the KTK RC390.
I recently watched a first engine oil change comparisons between major brands including Royal Enfield and the brand did incredibly well, which tells that their engines seem to be very well manufactured.
Live in Phoenix and just purchased a 2020 ktm 390 adventure. It’s my very first bike and this thing is a blast to learn on. Glad to see it rank so highly in your list!
Your first bike should be one that first feels like it has too much power, but after a year of getting used to riding it you are able to use the available power comfortably and are interested in a bike that is more potent.
As a beginner bike, I paid a few hundred bucks for a used Honda CX500. I rode it for years; every day to work and usually at least once a day on weekends. It wasn't good for riding at freeway speeds, but around town it was all I needed. Eventually I bought a 1999 Triumph 900cc triple. I still have them both.
As someone who is shopping for their first bike the 500f looks really nice. Although I haven't sat on one yet, I'm 6' 300lbs not sure if I'd be the right size for it.
Okay, while I’m always finding Yam’s insights & opinions humorous, and sometimes even agree with them, what I find funniest is his apparent and complete lack of understanding of a world market and the requirements of other governments besides the US’s relatively lax motorcycling rules. At least he’s willing to tell you his honest thoughts and you know where things stand when watching the videos.
I love my MT03....great bike for beginners or someone wanting a light weight/low CC bike. Awesome price and will still do 100mph. Has enough power to go down the road but not enough to get you in trouble if you are newer.
My 2020 Ninja 400 ABS has been amazing, brand new and I have learned so much and I have had and incredible time doing so. I am thinking of the future to go to an R6 or ZX6R but unsure. I love the motorcycle community, such a big family.
Not sure the RE deserved a dumpster fire rating. I have the RE INT 650 and have clocked 8k miles in 10 months with out one issue. It loves the twisty roads and the highways. And yes it is my starter bike and a long term bike as well.
If the purpose of this video is to make a recommendation for new riders, the approach is wrong. For a new rider engine size does not matter. There are 3 things you need to pay attention, 1. Your personality (Are you addicted to an adrenaline rush? rate yourself from a scale from 1 to 10--being 10 the highest. the higher the number the smaller the CC you should get). 2. Breaking system, go for the bike that has ABS, efficient breaking and emergency breaking is one skill any biker needs to practice. A new rider does not have this skill yet, you need all the help you can get (ABS makes a difference). 3. Size/Weight--- You'll have to learn how to ride slowly (small radius U turns are a pain in the a**), sometimes the weight of the bike will be too much and you are going to drop it (goodbye levers and pegs), if you have consider spare parts as part of your budget go crazy and get an BMW GS 1250 Adventure. Bonus Tip. Bike vs Gear.. spend you money on gear (Do this first). Better protection gear can save your life.
Thank you! I agree with all of your points and this is coming from a beginner rider. My father who rode dirty for 40+ years before getting his license has been teaching me all the basics and everything I need to know before going into the MSF course, and with his advice and teachings I feel I could step up further from the realm of “beginner” bikes. Obviously it’s different for each person, I personally am not an adrenaline junkie in the slightest, and if I am riding a motorcycle I want to ensure my own safety as much as possible, which would mean riding the speed limit. Self restraint is the biggest thing people need to understand and have. I’m lucky in that my first car which I learned how to drive on was my dad’s old standard transmission C4 Corvette, which has some pretty solid power and is by no means a “beginner” car either. Driving that car taught me a lot of self restraint and I feel I could handle something that isn’t classified as a “beginner” bike.
When he put the Kawasaki ninja 400 on one of the lower tiers i got really concerned. 😮 Thats probably one of the most appropriate beginner bikes especially since my husband his brother and most of my family rides and has for years the Kawasaki ninja 400 is the most recommended beginner bike in my family.
svartpilien 401 and KTM 390 and the Duke are in many ways essentially the same bike, same motor, same parent company. Different price points, some differences re electronics. For you viewers who are wondering as I did, Yammie did review the 401 on a separate vid in October. Glad you put them so high on the list, nice new looks to replace the same worn out stuff we've seen for years. Good channel.
I just got a 2023 Z400 recently, just started riding and i love it. It feels great and tbh i don't think I'm gonna need any more power then this for a while. It feels amazing i can get up to speed fast, that's all i really need
A2 is a joke, they should remove A2 . Why the hell someone who pass B licence can drive a 500HP car but someone in that same age can only drive 48HP motorcycle?
@@blawkenmusic no A2 works fine, it's meant for younger people (under 24) who are statistically more likely to be involved in an accident, the thinking is if they are riding a lower powered bike they might survive, also if you are over 24 you just take your test and get whatever you want
@@kieranjordan2655 As an Australian this makes me sad. We don’t have A2, we have LAMS. 2 years min riding experience plus a riding course to get off LAMS. Though our LAMS is up to 50HPish and 650cc. Edit: that 2 years is regardless of age.
@@kieranjordan2655 The thing is that some people skip A2 licence and ride without any licence. They just buy fast sport and when police want to check them they run away. This is happening beacause buying something in A2 is horror. Everyone was buying 60-80HP motors and you need to search for restriced one or restrict one by yourself. And thats another problem. For 10-15 bikes (yamaha xj600,bandit 600) there is one A2 restriced. So you can't choose what you want and sometimes there is no bikes for A2 in local area. And lowering power by yourself is nightmere too, you pay 1/2 cost of your A2 licence to restrict your bike and get every paper that you need but goverment can say Nope and you are left with bike that you can't ride. If they only extend that limit to 60-70 HP there will be no problems, 600cc sport bikes have around 90-100HP so young men won't get to much for start and normal people could get bikes like honda deuville or honda cb 500 or kawasaki gpz 500.
@@ironized question is when you can start? If you are 16yrs and have 250-500cc motor for start then this 2 yeas period will start to count and get full riding licence at 18yrs is good in my opinion. A2 is very similar but you need 18 and wait 2years for you to be able to get full A. And i hope your goverment is not bad as where i am. I could get A2 licence 2 months ago and time for my full A would start counting BUT NOPE beacause there was little rain and call me off, AND NOW I NEED TO WAIT FOR FUCKING SPRING, I LOSE 5 MONTHS BEACAUSE OF THIS SHIET.
I got a 2010 vstrom 650 for my first bike. Cheap, reliable, goodlooking, and has enough power that im not upgrading every year. The best part about it is the versatility. Has the engine of a cruiser (v twin) the power/control of a sport bike..kinda, and the capabilities of an offroad bike. Its really helped me decide what class of bike i want next.
Hello Mr. Yammer Sir! I’m an experienced rider and have had a turdload of different bikes and brands over the years. At one point my garage was filled with an Italian cornucopia of overpriced jewels. Through it all I was one of the lucky ones who got to discover what bikes were right for me by owning a stable and long terming them down to the keepers. Long story short, all the fared bikes went away except one and naked was the most comfortable, maneuverable and fun making of them all. So I narrowed it down to the Tuono Racing, Monster S4R, Brutale, Husqvarna 610sm, KTM Superduke 990, Benelli TNT, and a KTM Duke 640 just to date this story. When life changed and I had to get rid of most of the bikes and decide which two I should keep it was the KTM Superduke which I still own today and the KTM 640 Duke. With your experience on many different steeds I bet you’re saying about now “I can see that”. Fast forward new bikes that came my way include Duke 390... loved that bike. Harley 48 Sportster... fun for a few weeks. Moto Guzzi Griso... cool but got tired of how giant it was. Honda Grom... sold after 2 months to get the 390. Ducati Full throttle Scrambler... for sale to grab the KTM 890 Duke. Most recent purchase was a Craigslist deal on a RC 390 with 400 miles on it. Thought there’d be no risk in getting my money back if I don’t like it. Digressing back to the only fared bike that stayed back in the day, that bike was a gray market Aprilia RS250 from Canada fully street legal. The KTM RC390 is the only bike that has given me the same thrill as the RS. Having ridden the wheels off a Duke 390 I will have to say that the RC isn’t as comfortable but it does provide lots of fun in the twisties. So I guess the point of all this is that now I watch the Noobster and I will have to say you’re pretty much on point with your opinions which are based on discoveries. I like that I can confidently ride what you’ve deemed a beginner bike and feel no shame. With all the new choices out there, I am still looking at the Duke 890 as the perfect choice for a one of 2 bikes stable. The other bike being the RC390... which if I do sell would probly be replaced with a Husky 401 Vitpilen... another beginner bike lol. I believe there is a place for a smaller cc bike in anyone’s stable at any riding level. You simply do not need a lot of unusable power to have a blast on 2 wheels. Nothing disturbs me more than the self proclaimed Ducatista with the brand new Ducati everything from the ground up, strolling through the canyon at low speed holding up other riders with his entitlement... after all he just spent $60k on his new bike and personifying apparel, why should he not be able to go slow if he wants? Anyway... in closing I’m always in tears with the Yam comedy show. Congrats on a great perspective show, you’re the best. Southern California is the place to be! Keepem coming, Jonathan
Just snagged a 2006 600 katana for my first bike. I have a ton of experience on 450 two stokes on trails and tracks but no road experience so this is a whole new experience for me.
Only bike on that list that actually looks like a proper motorcycle. I’m returning to motorcycling after about 20 years and either getting the Interceptor 650 or a Guzzi V7. I’ve owned lots of bikes
@@dhhjsjzjzjjhsjsjh All motorcycles look like motorcycles, they all have 2 wheels and go. No shaming, and soon we can get rid of the combustion engine and all go electric, if you want exhaust sound then get the optional speakers so you can still waste powerpack energy the same as the sound of an engine note.
@@clover8673 Electric vehicles unfortunately are not any less wasteful than combustion engine vehicles YET. Most of the enegery that would go to charge the batteries in these vehicles comes from coal or nuclear energy. I would love for you to be right but we're just not there yet, don't be fooled by the marketing!
In what world is a 600cc+ bike going to be a good beginner bike?? 250 might be a little low, but I would recommend a 250 over a 650 any day. A beginner bike SHOULD be slow and not have allot of power or torque. When you first get on a bike you need to learn how it operates and the best way to do that is with a slow and very manageable bike. The MT-03 is a solid beginner bike that should be nowhere near the bottom of this list.
I don't think the Honda 500 engines are lacking. I do think that part of how they're achieving its reliability. Seeing at about the 100,000 mile mark. That's nuts for a 471cc
I started lessons in 2019 on a Yamaha MT7 2017 model, and i finished on a Honda CB600 2008, and i bought a Honda CB600 Hornet 2001 as a first bike, very forgiven and easy to ride in low RPM's and above 6K RPM to 12K RPM it goes vicious.
Thing about watching a bunch of Yammie Noob videos in a small amount of time is you see loads of glaring contradictions. One of his Top Bad Trends in Motorcycles videos craps on TFT displays, but the last three videos I watched, he praises nice new TFT displays on tech advanced bikes. And that aint the only one!
my list would be something like this: 1. z400 (better power curve and reliability than the duke and also cheaper) $5000 44hp 399cc 364lbs 2. duke 390 (funky looks and enough power to keep you happy for a while) $5700 42hp 373cc 360lbs 3. yamaha mt-03 (cheapest of the 3 but has about 7-8 less hp than the z400) $4600 37hp 321cc 373lbs i think anything over the 50hp mark are getting into the intermediate motorcycle zone.
Hi yammie! I bought my first bike today. A Yamaha R15v3. Rode a bike for the first time and it was my own and that too on an Indian busy road. And yes it was scary af. Lots of stalling and waddling. But I eventually got the bike safely home. Also made quite nice and complete U-turns. Thanks for making all the amazing content for beginner riders. I am now officially a Squid!
If you visit any Southeast Asia country, suddenly those puny 300cc become a real speed machine because small roads and people tend to ride something ranged from 50cc to 150cc
For Singapore, we have to complete a riding course in order to be certified to ride. Certifications is categorised by: Class 2B (Below 200CC), Class 2A (below 400CC) and Class 2 (ALL Bikes). Class 2s are usually a bit too much and redundant, given that our country is quite small.
Meanwhile in Vietnam we don't need to complete each course There are 4 in A class A1: Below 175cc (test with 110cc motorcycle) A2: Any motorcycle (test with 250cc motorcycle) A3: Motorized Tricycle A4: Tractor Also they just need to meet this requirement: 18 years old or older
but they're so genius people in there make them fast and accelerated like crazy especially here in Indonesia and Malaysia some people even Modify them with the cost of 3.000 to 4.000 dollars or even 7.000 dollars
@@pinospin9588 well its their life and their shit, maybe they addicted to the adrenaline? or prides? if they die they die, play stupid games win stupid prizes
I'm not sure why you'd say a 650 class bike would be considered a good beginner motorcycle. There's so much to learn and if you're on a 250 or 300 it's going to be one hell of a lot more forgiving than a bike with +70hp. One other thing is growing into a bike as a beginner is a stupid way to learn. If you're going to learn to ride, know it's expensive. Buy a small bike, learn on it for a year or two, then upgrade but only if you're ready. That's just my opinion though
Proud owner of an FZ07. I can never complain about confirmation bias on my purchase from last summer. And what's the etiquette on calling mine an MT07 nowadays despite FZ labeled on the bike?
If you're new to riding. And getting a new bike. DO NOT get a high HP bike. Start out with something sub 400cc. Ktm Duke 390 was a perfect starter for me. Plenty of power for a new rider. Light weight. And honestly looks better than most sub 400 cc bikes.
I had a CBR250R for my first bike when I turned 15. I got to ride it three times before my buddy stalled it in third gear. Snapped an Intake Valve right from its stem and blew chunks of my piston into the transmission and out of the side of the cylinder liner
I got a 2005 R6 to start on. Awesome bike. I absolutely love it. I had dirt bike riding experience and I knew I would respect the bike and I still have not dropped it. Very fun bike.
Everyone: "The Fz07 is a dangerous starter bike for absolute beginners." Me- A guy who can't walk in a straight line, Can't ride a bicycle, and suffered multiple brain injuries. "Yep ill buy one." Still rockin a 2015 fz07. Had to hang up the Huffy.
@@Pray4Fairways It'll send ya off the back even if ya give it too much throttle in 1st and 2nd gear. Ive dumped the clutch many times. Only time it has came close to bucking me off was when I was messing around with the launch control after I had it tuned. 5k rpm launches. You just have to get used to the clutch and throttle. Just like any other bike.
I would like to thank you and some other youtubers that talk about bikes for noob's because of y'all i have started on a 2019 CBR300R and have all the right riding gear and took the riders course before buying my first bike i know i have a long way to go but man is it fun thank all of you for the good info and helping me become a safe rider
My first bike was a 99 Honda CBR 600. That bike was a blast, so fun. I loved it. So fast, so light...It was very easy, very low maintenance. I paid $3200 for the bike, tax, title , and registration in 2015. had that bike for 3 years. Now I have a 14 GSXR750. what a difference. so much faster in the low rpms. not quite as light but was more stable at higher speeds.
I got a Ducati Scrambler Icon Dark and I love it. Was not that expensive, off road capability ( not at the same level as a dual spot ), looks great and it's comfortable to ride
Lol I'm the same, but personally I don't think there is a better bike to start on if you're into sports bikes. It's fast enough to get you into trouble (I know because I lost my licence for 6 months for speeding on it) but not too fast that you can't handle the speeds as a beginner. It's easy to ride and wicked fun and has really made me fall in love with riding. I'm excited to take the next step and move up to a faster bike but I'll always appreciate everything thing I learnt on my little ninja 400
@@thebigdog9785 Yeah thats kinda what I was thinking, I like sports bikes, so the S Tier wasn't really all what I was lookin for even if they're really good.
Here I am sitting on my 2008 Yamaha FZ6 and still enjoying it as an experienced rider. I bet it would likely be a good first bike if you're not a bad rider.
A little small. A 250 single will get to 60 mph faster than the Camry driver behind you talking on their phone or putting on their lipstick, and that's important. An MT-03 gets to 60 in 5.4 seconds and that will see off anything that's not an STI, Evo, or Tesla. Bikes like that are a lot safer than a 125. But you don't need more. And you want it light so you're not dropping it every time you have to stop suddenly in a parking lot, and can pick it up when you do.
@@BruceHoult I agree but when I say starters, I mean the dumb sophomore who has never ridden a day in his life and thinks he can handle a h2. A 125 will get you where you want and teach you the drivers language. For someone who isn't a complete noob a 200 or 300 would be fine.
@@peanutbutterkz sure. They'll be fine in 30 - 40 mph zones. WE used to have an XL125S on the farm. Went ok off road and on back roads if you revved the tits off it. I'm looking at some acceleration results: 80 km/h: 10.7s, 50 mph: 10.9s, 60 mph: 33.6s, 100 km/h: 101.8s. So the last 2 mph took over a minute.
I’m back to window shopping for a bike… I was sooo close to getting my first street bike 6 years ago until I had a kid. Now I think I deserve to treat myself
yeah the R3/MT-03 and Ninja 400/Z400 are probably some of the best bikes you could ever start out on. Included the MT-03 & Z400 as they’re probably better for beginners compared to their sport variants (mainly the riding position). Incredible bikes for beginners but also have enough power to grow into a little bit. Won’t break the bank at around $5k. Definitely A or S tier bikes.
I really loved my 2013 Ninja 300 back when I had it. Rode that for 6 years before finally buying the bigger version (2013 Ninja 650) which unfortunately isn't nearly as fun to ride but gets the job done I guess. I will always recommend someone to buy a Ninja 300 if they can find one in decent condition. The 400cc version might be a little too much power for a beginner in my opinion.
I got my svartpilen 250 delivered and I have been enjoying every moment of riding it (401 is not yet released in India) 30 bhp might not sound very powerful but it's good enough for a beginner, and especially for indian roads It nice to finally graduate from being a bikeless- squid 🦑
I like to ride scooters. They are more fun for me. I like to drive slow things fast. Something special about it Of course there has to be alot of corners though
If you are saying the Royal Enfield 650 twins are not great VFM beginner bikes, then i dont know what to say, so i wrote this comment, i am disappointed but your content is awesome so ill let this one slide 😅
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I wish you could do "bang for bucks" tier list.. great video thought!
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Request review kawasaki zx25r 2020 inline 4 250cc sir yham.
Yammie check out Breezy Rider's CfMoto NK400
"they tend to be...a little bit more than a beginner can handle"
Wonderful recommendation for a video entirely about beginners Yam, glad to know you're looking out for us
it's for beginners who like a bit more edge
some of his comments make me wonder what he considers a beginner? lol
@@reginadesilva4233 The edge of the sidewalk?
@@sebastian-ny1sp duh
Insane in the mind
The bikes this guy is putting on his "D" list are the ones most people want. Most people want a good combination of looks, performance, reliability and affordability, and all of the bikes in this category deliver on those things.
yeah honestly. thats why im getting a ninja 300 for my first bike, not really tryna spend more to get 400.
@@marcojoestar212 same I’m eyeing up a 300 for like 2500 which I would have to pay almost triple for a dealership 400
@@that1panther105 yeah for that price. But people complain enough about 400 being small so I’m almost afraid to go smaller
@@char9550 depends on what you are gonna do the r3 and ninja 300 engines dont have much torque but have decent top speeds so you can do highways pretty easily etc it all just depends on the bike tbh and what you are gonna do with it
what about the r3
My choice for beginner: Ninja 400
My budget: broken 1990 Ninja 250
My budget: lightly used bicycle chain (rusty but functional)
Don't, get yourself a vitpilen 401! Way superior bike.
I suggest Kawasaki ninja zx25r 2020 sir. You will like it. 4 cylinder 250cc.
@@enge1369 you might as well get yourself a motorized moped then like an Aprilia scarabeo 250!
My choice for beginner: Ninja 300.
My budget: Facebook marketplace 2013 honda ss
I wonder how many people he’s killed by telling them too get a 1000 as their first bike
Me because I died laughing 😂😂
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It's good for people who never want to shift and dont know how ..........lol.
Anything over 300cc is too much. I was suggested a 600 and it was just too massive. I am looking for a bike to have fun and not get messed up really bad, but 500cc+ is not good for a beginner. It makes me wonder if I honestly should be listening to this dude. He suggests a bigger bike so you can avoid buying an upgrade after a season, this dude plays too many video games. Some of us just wants something to make the commute more enjoyable
@@ThePeacePlant a 600cc is gonna be wayy different than a 650 or even a 700, an r6 (599cc) puts down over 100 hp, while the ninja 650 puts down only around 50 hp and is made more for commuting, trust yammie, he knows what he's talking about
yammie: buy a small bike as your first bike
also yammie: 300cc is not enough its not torquey enough you can't pull wheelies
But 373cc is obviously perfect 😆
Anything that has more than 300cc is better. The elasticity of the engine improves drastically and makes u actually enjoy the punchy nature that they have.
350-450 is the sweet spot for the most amount of fun on a motorcycle. There's a reason everyone asks for 350cc supermotos
@@shuttzi9878 350cc supermotos? Yeah right. Proper supermotos of 250-300cc 4-strokes can produce 35-45hp while weighing around 100-110kg. A CRF 250R enduro produces way more power than a beginner even needs so there is absolutely no reason to go for a supermoto that would be like a KTM EXC 350. That would get a beginner killed.
@@I_THE_ME There's a reason
A reason being reliability and the range of torque. Yes u can achieve 45 HP with EXC 300-350 but the unreliability of it is astonishing.
The reason why EXC us so light is obviously because its also FUCKING EXPENSIVE. EXC couldnt work on the road, its just too light to handle high speeds and overall dualsport stuff.
If u think that R3 Engine could work offroad without any problems then sorry you're wrong, same with Ninja 400. There's a reason why the KLX 300 is such a drag. Yes it couldve had more hps but that would make it break more often and require much more service over time.
350 cc dualsport or supermotos would strike near perfect balance between usable power and reliability while still being light, that's why people want it.
Not the competition type 350cc, the usable and reliable 350cc type of engine.
I have a 2021 R3 and ride wheelies all day on it with no problem. It's a really great bike .
Yam! Thank you so much for this list!! I was on the fence for about a week but after this video I went out and bought my first bike based on your recommendation! Had a blast riding it around and I’m already looking forward to getting out of the hospital to try it again!!
lmaoooo
Waahahahhahahhahab
What did you get?
@@neos.h.7892 a broken pelvis apparently.
🤣 the comment I was looking for
Nobody:
Yammie Noob: 1000cc is the best beginner bike
I just bought an mt 09 as my first bike and I can handle it fine
U still alive?
@@james-cq4bn Doesn’t seem that way lol
I road a cbr 250r for the 3rd time & it popped up on me because I let the clutch out too fast, I know FOR SURE if that was a 650r I wouldve dropped it
haha true😂
Okay, I don't want to criticize this guy's work but I disagree with his points and choices with everything that I've got. The bikes on A/B tiers are, in my opinion, *not* beginners bike. I'll let him have it as maybe a second bike, buy if you've never rode a bike in your life, do *not* start at 600cc or 1000cc. Start small and build your way up. Bigger bikes are heavier, harder to control, they can go to a very high velocity in mere seconds and you might lose control of the bike and have an accident... i know people who started at those levels and are still alive, sure, but I don't recommend taking chances on a bike because a little mistake can end your life, and riding a powerful motorcycle increases the risk of something bad happening, and EVEN MORE when you don't have experience riding smaller bikes.
My second point is: money. If you're on a budget, you need to consider the bigger and more expensive the bike, the more expensive is anything related to it: tires, revision, repair, fuel etc so besides the higher price you're going to pay for the bike, the bigger your expenses with it.
And number three: if you have a budget, don't buy the bike first. My tip is go to a bike store, buy some good protection gear and then see your budget. Good protection gear can be really expensive, but you need to care more about your well being than if you're going to ride fast or not.
So, imo: 300cc is perfect for a beginner. Hell, even 150cc or 250cc is good enough to learn the basics. Yamaha and Honda are two reliable brands, so if you buy a CB300 or a MT-03, you'll be in good hands. Don't worry. The list he put together is as if
Worst car for begginers: civic
Best car for begginers: a corvette.
Do you see how bad that sounds? So then you understand my points.
Anyway, good riddance, don't buy a 1000cc if you've never rode a bike
When exactly did he tell you to get a 1000 or 600cc motorcycle. In the a and b tiers the highest displacement engine was 373cc. There is’nt one point in this video that tells you that a 1000cc motorcycle is the best Moto to get. If you watch any of his other beginner motorcycle videos he says and I quote, “1000cc is probably the worst possible motorcycle you could get.”
@@KingKofi01 I may have been halfway wrong with the 600cc engine displacement but the other half I feel I am right about. If you listen to his words on the b tier, where most the 600cc recommendations are, you will hear him say that these motorcycles may be a little bit more than what a beginner can handle but if this were your starter bike this could also be your finisher bike. He did not fully state wether or not you should buy the b tier because anything in that category and below was either outdated or slightly overpowered. These are his words
Your point about how it is like best car for beginners is corvette and worst car for beginners is civic your almost there. He says something more along the lines of civic best car for beginners corvette is a little more than a beginner can handle and Ford model t along with Lamborghini is worst car fo beginner. The best motorcycles are in the a and s tier therefore making them nothing like corvette
Depends on where you live.
Or you guys could buy a 400cc+ scooter such as T-Max, X-ADV, C 400 X/GT
So the B tier is the S tier in this list. Got it.
that also means the D tier is the B
I agree
Correct
So S is SSS?
@@ZSmith-yy4lv s means supemoto apparently
After watching this, I would agree with the A and S tier bikes. But for any new to riding biker, I have to say always, (I cannot stress this enough) ALWAYS make sure your bike is under 600cc. Not just because the bike will be lighter. The bigger the bike the more power it has, the bigger the mistake and the more it can become the last bike you ever ride. Granted they knocked the honda 300cc bikes. Starting out riding, I actually do suggest them because they are slow, so you can get use to leaning, learning to turn, and understanding your gear shifting and how everything works without destroying your own gear box on a much more pricey bike. They actually come pretty cheap used as well. If you are like me and live more in a city than the suburban or country side, riding is a lot more different. Having a slower bike really makes it easy for you to build up that natural reflex of looking all around you when going through intersections, or coming to stops. Something like a 650cc might seem cool. You will keep it for a long time. But every starting/beginner biker needs to get their head around the fact they will drop, wreak, or fall off their bike at one point or another. 600cc or more you fall off that bike going fast or being dumb and your odds of wanting to fix and ride it again, or getting back on ever again drop a lot. At least falling off something more light, less powerful can really help you understand what to expect when that day comes. Trust me, I have fallen off before hitting gravel while being cut off. It sucks when you are going 35mph and you just land full force bike and all onto the pavement while moving even with a jacket on. Keep that in mind.
I’m leaving for the Marine Corps in June and my papaw has been riding for years and he is going to show me how to ride, I don’t have a whole lotta money, any recommendations?
@@bridger6101 get a Grom. It’s a blast, and will retain its value while you’re deployed.
my first bike had 1000ccm the Kawa Z1000 and it was just fine and awesome to ride it.
So get the H2 basically
Good advice thanks!
Yammie hurt his credibility with this one! His partner did a video riding the Duke 390, and said he would have to take his hands off the bars at stop lights or they would go numb from all the vibration. Yes, that's exactly how you want to introduce a newbie to the world of motorcycling. Others have recommended the 300's and 400's for beginners for obvious reasons, and your recommendations sound more like something for an intermediate adrenaline junkie!
That’s exactly why he’s making this video for
I have powersports bar end mirrors on my 390 and the vibrations isn't all that even with the end weights 86d.
I've also been riding for 4 decades and have owned everything from CR & KX500s to liter bikes to a Busa and a 2017 H2.
My big bike days are behind me. The little Duke is fun enough in the twisties.
@@rivercityrambler7751
Hey sir, may ask you a question
I feel like the z400 really deserves to be higher up on the list. You can get it anywhere. It's cheap and reliable. Fuel consumption is ridiculously low. It sounds great with 2 cylinders. Literally THE perfect beginner bike in my opinion.
ninja 400 rider here, i agree with this statement. he says "the most popular beginner sportbikes" then says "it's getting long in the tooth" and smacks it in D-tier. am i the only one who said "HUH"
@@dylanc2806 I see the Ninja 400 as A tier. Only reason I don't see it as S is because to me only 1 should be there, and that'll be the r7, though an argument can be made for the Ninja 650 too.
If the R7 didn't exist I'd definitely put the Ninja 650 in S, since it is a little above the 400.
@@Diaszurana yeah, agreed. i still got mine almost 1 year later and honestly dont really want anything else
@@dylanc2806 bro. My name is Dylan c too...
@@leftyslugger2557 ha nice
Spite: 70 HP is the sweet spot for a road bike.
Yammie: Here's a beginner bike with 80 HP.
Honda Rebel 1100 DCT is a good beginner bike because DCT transmissions from Honda motorcycles functions like a automatic and that prevents a lot of the problems beginners have because of the manual transmission and clutch system then you have the other things you have to do removing just one thing that you brain has to do is a good thing because the brain can that for other things that motorcyclist have to do.
@@rustybeatty6567 I'd say that it's a bad beginner bike for exactly that reason. Learning how to use the clutch is an integral part of riding, and it'll probably just be harder to learn later on, plus it's probably easy to build bad habits, especially when it comes to slow speed maneuvers, when you don't learn how to use the clutch properly from the beginning.
@@Domitianvs not exactly true because in time electric motorcycles will replace gasoline engine powered ones and they don't have gears to shift so shifting a motorcycle isn't necessary and is it really necessary the same arguments were made a cars years ago.
@@Domitianvs Well beginners starting right now might be forced to buy an electric as their second bike so who knows whether that's necessary.
@@namelikeanyother885 "forced"? Get real. Electric bikes are still at a very early stage, far from being in a prince range where they will be even remotely considered beginner bikes. And even when they start being more widely available and affordable, it's not like the gasoline powered bike is going anywhere anytime soon, I think there will still be decades of people getting into bikes for the sheer reason of "twist throttle, go VROOM", which is why motor bikes have appealed to people for over a century. So no, I hardly think that people will "be forced" to not use a clutch in any reasonably forseeable future.
European beginner bike: 11-15hp bike
American beginner bike: 90hp 4 cylinder motorcycle
What?
Speed limit in American highway is 65mph however, realistically everybody goes 75-80mph…
@@juancalderon6288 well I'm from Germany
@@realiascailt Gottem
Its a bit too slow
yammie does NOT speak for the opinion of americans. 99% of people know full well how terrible 90hp is for a beginner
Call me crazy but those bikes you criticized for being "underpowered"... I don't want a speedy bike to learn how to ride on. I don't want something that's gonna pop a wheelie and go flying out from under me if I crank the gas a little too hard. Like yeah, I'm sure for an experienced rider those Honda 300's are boring, but I'd rather be bored than injured or dead.
MT03 is a fantastic beginner bike. Super comfortable, reliable, and affordable (especially used). Bought mine for 4K with not even 1,000 miles on it +upgrades that came on it. I definitely recommend a smaller bike for beginners. You can go higher displacement if you want, but for the money a smaller bike will do everything you want it to
I don’t know if you’ll see this but people are recommending me the MT-07 because I’m a bit bigger than most people. Should I not go with their suggestion and look at the MT-03. For reference, I’m 6’4” 220. I’m nervous about the amount of engine the 07 has.
@@joedoggm MT07 is a great bike. It’s what I will upgrade to at some point in the future. Honestly, you have to decide what works best for you. Price and comfort is something to look out for as well as a multitude of different factors (where you are riding etc.) And you can go sit on bikes to see what feels better.
Some people get a bigger displacement bike to not go through the hassle of selling and upgrading. I am not that person though.
As for size, I’ve read mixed reviews for taller riders for the MT03. For the most part, it’s generally been good with no comfort or handling issues. I found some Reddit posts about it that you can look at to see what people say.
Either way you look at both bikes are killer. I’ll recommend anything Yamaha does bc of cheap parts and reliability along with great performance. But it’s totally on what you feel comfortable with. You might get the MT03 while keeping in mind that you may upgrade a year or less later, but if you’re cool with that go for it (I don’t think you’ll have a problem selling it if you go that route in my opinion).
Apologies for the long reply lol. There’s just a lot of information. Just get what you’re comfortable with and don’t let others try to steer you in any direction that you’re not.
He put all of the bikes i liked in the D Section .Noice .
D are the best usual choices for a beginner bike tier
C are boring but practical and logical bikes (Compared to the competition) tier
B is the most logical and future proof bikes that are actually fun tier
A is the best value and fun beginner bikes tier
S tier is bikes that are the most fun, practical and easy to learn for a begginer rider tier (these bikes will be fun even 10 yrs from now, trust me)
@@morgan98801 Right? D tier are usually the best bikes looking for the best future riders
i like how he putted 250 bikes at E and F tier for beginners and putted +500c v2 and v4 bikes on C and B
personally i think those 250cc with 30hp and less are best for beginners
Putted??? Bro come on you know that shit is not a word.
@@allen.9Grammar might be shat but love him or hate him, bro's spitting facts
@@billi_fl yeah I agree, 250 is a good a-b tier beginner beginner bike.
So on the way up from the bottom, low cost low displacement bad, higher cost higher displacement more gooder. And if you want top of the heap, has to be able to go off road. Got it. Great advice.
Lol. You summed it up 😂
infinite IQ amirite
I personally ride MT-03 as my first bike and love it. Everything except price though. But it has nice engine, it can speed up really fast and feels nice with 130 km/h on a highway. But taking 600cc/70+hp as first bike is... quite confident.
I have an mt03 also. It's like a little wasp. Nimble and fun in corners. Have put 20,000 miles on mine and it's still running great.
Confident's a word. I say BRIH kink (beginner rider indirect homicide kink)
Why's the turbo busa not in s tier? Disappointed
Because the T-Busa transcends tiers. It will not be contained.
Totally unwatchable!
The turbo Busa is above all tiers, yammie wouldn’t be able to handle it
It's beginner
its for professional riders not for beginners
i have a 300 and have had 0 problems and still gets up to 85 mph just fine, also light weight and affordable. perfect beginner bike in my opinion!
What do you think of the Honda 500 for a beginner bike? I’m on the bigger side of 220 lbs and haven’t ridden much beside a little dirt bike when I was 8 or 10
I've been riding for 4 decades. Owned everything from CR & KX500s to liter bikes, a Busa, and a 2017 H2.
My big bike days are behind me. Bought a 2022 390 Duke, added a fender eliminator, bar end mirrors(Powerparts,) a bunch of Trex stuff, and a LeoVince LV Pro Carbon to it and it's a blast in the twisties which is where I ride predominantly anymore.
No more track days for this old coot.
Might buy an 890 down the road as well but realized long ago large displacement bikes are pretty pointless on the street as you really can never uncork them safely or legally.
Also had a buddy on a ZX10 die right in front of me while on a Gixxer stack so that changed my riding habits quite a bit.
Be safe out there folks.
Thanks for sharing. I've heard similar comments in the Duke 390 forums. I'm close to 50 and really am enjoying my Duke 390. Your comments help me keep the curiosity of having a faster bike from getting the best of me. I'm not sure how people avoid loosing their licences with anything faster and taking corners is a hoot on the 390.
I'm sorry to hear that about your friend.
Most beginners dont have that much cash to land a 500cc parallel twin. The Honda cb300r is a great beginner bike. Also, starting on a naked street bike is better than a sportbike like the KTK RC390.
“Yeah so this 1,000,000 cc bike is the best bike u can get”
-yammie noob 2025
Royal Enfield has actually stepped up big time for 2021, especially the Himalayan.
I recently watched a first engine oil change comparisons between major brands including Royal Enfield and the brand did incredibly well, which tells that their engines seem to be very well manufactured.
@@I_THE_ME fortniiineeee. An amazing Channel, i would dare to say the best motorcycle channel in the world
I wish the Himalayan came in a 650.
@@at9670 yup, their production quality for their videos are top tier
@@Ethozel the narrations are poetic at times
I’ve got the Svartpilen 401 and I can say it is a fantastic bike.
I love my Cb650r, I can assure you it's worth ever penny. it just feels so put together, I love it.
Huh. Yammie started smoking crack
You've lost it man
I thought Yammie was all about not flexing on the poors.
Live in Phoenix and just purchased a 2020 ktm 390 adventure. It’s my very first bike and this thing is a blast to learn on. Glad to see it rank so highly in your list!
Hey man! Are you still alive and in a one piece?
I wanted to ask you about the adv390, is it hard to maneuver it in busy narrow city streets?
Your first bike should be one that first feels like it has too much power, but after a year of getting used to riding it you are able to use the available power comfortably and are interested in a bike that is more potent.
As a beginner bike, I paid a few hundred bucks for a used Honda CX500. I rode it for years; every day to work and usually at least once a day on weekends. It wasn't good for riding at freeway speeds, but around town it was all I needed. Eventually I bought a 1999 Triumph 900cc triple. I still have them both.
That ad in the middle didn't even feel like an ad, good job
CB500F or X. Used for $4k-3500, bulletproof, dead neutral, no weirdness, brilliant machines on which to learn. The rest are lesser.
As someone who is shopping for their first bike the 500f looks really nice. Although I haven't sat on one yet, I'm 6' 300lbs not sure if I'd be the right size for it.
@@williamc1819 NC750x
@@darnellhendeason6119 that is a perfect recommendation for that dude!
@@williamc1819 I am 6' 294lbs. I bought a used 2014 CB500f in 2019. I am still riding it. Wonderful bike.
My first bike which I have right now is a 2017 Yamaha ys and it’s so easy to get used to! Trust me it’s a perfect 125 for a beginner.
1:15 , my brain noticed a brest in the mirror, got disappointed later
No only you
Lol sameee!
hahahhaa you are a ninja. You noticed that lol
Naked dude on a naked bike makes sense
All the E and D tier bikes are amazing for beginners.
Yammie, I’m still waiting for you to tell us the criteria for a starter motorcycle!
Okay, while I’m always finding Yam’s insights & opinions humorous, and sometimes even agree with them, what I find funniest is his apparent and complete lack of understanding of a world market and the requirements of other governments besides the US’s relatively lax motorcycling rules. At least he’s willing to tell you his honest thoughts and you know where things stand when watching the videos.
Do a best budget for each category of motorcycles (cheapest good supermoto, naked, dirt bike, super sport...)
I love my MT03....great bike for beginners or someone wanting a light weight/low CC bike. Awesome price and will still do 100mph. Has enough power to go down the road but not enough to get you in trouble if you are newer.
In the name of holy Crossplane, Papa Yam and Father Rossi, RIP R6 💐
You will be remembered.
My 2020 Ninja 400 ABS has been amazing, brand new and I have learned so much and I have had and incredible time doing so. I am thinking of the future to go to an R6 or ZX6R but unsure. I love the motorcycle community, such a big family.
Not sure the RE deserved a dumpster fire rating. I have the RE INT 650 and have clocked 8k miles in 10 months with out one issue. It loves the twisty roads and the highways. And yes it is my starter bike and a long term bike as well.
If the purpose of this video is to make a recommendation for new riders, the approach is wrong. For a new rider engine size does not matter. There are 3 things you need to pay attention, 1. Your personality (Are you addicted to an adrenaline rush? rate yourself from a scale from 1 to 10--being 10 the highest. the higher the number the smaller the CC you should get). 2. Breaking system, go for the bike that has ABS, efficient breaking and emergency breaking is one skill any biker needs to practice. A new rider does not have this skill yet, you need all the help you can get (ABS makes a difference). 3. Size/Weight--- You'll have to learn how to ride slowly (small radius U turns are a pain in the a**), sometimes the weight of the bike will be too much and you are going to drop it (goodbye levers and pegs), if you have consider spare parts as part of your budget go crazy and get an BMW GS 1250 Adventure. Bonus Tip. Bike vs Gear.. spend you money on gear (Do this first). Better protection gear can save your life.
Thank you! I agree with all of your points and this is coming from a beginner rider. My father who rode dirty for 40+ years before getting his license has been teaching me all the basics and everything I need to know before going into the MSF course, and with his advice and teachings I feel I could step up further from the realm of “beginner” bikes. Obviously it’s different for each person, I personally am not an adrenaline junkie in the slightest, and if I am riding a motorcycle I want to ensure my own safety as much as possible, which would mean riding the speed limit. Self restraint is the biggest thing people need to understand and have. I’m lucky in that my first car which I learned how to drive on was my dad’s old standard transmission C4 Corvette, which has some pretty solid power and is by no means a “beginner” car either. Driving that car taught me a lot of self restraint and I feel I could handle something that isn’t classified as a “beginner” bike.
Top tier- Busaaaa
Why wouldn’t I be surprised
When he put the Kawasaki ninja 400 on one of the lower tiers i got really concerned. 😮 Thats probably one of the most appropriate beginner bikes especially since my husband his brother and most of my family rides and has for years the Kawasaki ninja 400 is the most recommended beginner bike in my family.
svartpilien 401 and KTM 390 and the Duke are in many ways essentially the same bike, same motor, same parent company. Different price points, some differences re electronics. For you viewers who are wondering as I did, Yammie did review the 401 on a separate vid in October. Glad you put them so high on the list, nice new looks to replace the same worn out stuff we've seen for years. Good channel.
thanks for naming the brand, I was trying to look up the first one but had no idea how to spell that!
I just got a 2023 Z400 recently, just started riding and i love it. It feels great and tbh i don't think I'm gonna need any more power then this for a while. It feels amazing i can get up to speed fast, that's all i really need
Everything in D tier is built to fit the Euro A2 class.
A2 is a joke, they should remove A2 . Why the hell someone who pass B licence can drive a 500HP car but someone in that same age can only drive 48HP motorcycle?
@@blawkenmusic no A2 works fine, it's meant for younger people (under 24) who are statistically more likely to be involved in an accident, the thinking is if they are riding a lower powered bike they might survive, also if you are over 24 you just take your test and get whatever you want
@@kieranjordan2655 As an Australian this makes me sad. We don’t have A2, we have LAMS. 2 years min riding experience plus a riding course to get off LAMS.
Though our LAMS is up to 50HPish and 650cc.
Edit: that 2 years is regardless of age.
@@kieranjordan2655 The thing is that some people skip A2 licence and ride without any licence. They just buy fast sport and when police want to check them they run away. This is happening beacause buying something in A2 is horror. Everyone was buying 60-80HP motors and you need to search for restriced one or restrict one by yourself. And thats another problem. For 10-15 bikes (yamaha xj600,bandit 600) there is one A2 restriced. So you can't choose what you want and sometimes there is no bikes for A2 in local area. And lowering power by yourself is nightmere too, you pay 1/2 cost of your A2 licence to restrict your bike and get every paper that you need but goverment can say Nope and you are left with bike that you can't ride. If they only extend that limit to 60-70 HP there will be no problems, 600cc sport bikes have around 90-100HP so young men won't get to much for start and normal people could get bikes like honda deuville or honda cb 500 or kawasaki gpz 500.
@@ironized question is when you can start? If you are 16yrs and have 250-500cc motor for start then this 2 yeas period will start to count and get full riding licence at 18yrs is good in my opinion. A2 is very similar but you need 18 and wait 2years for you to be able to get full A. And i hope your goverment is not bad as where i am. I could get A2 licence 2 months ago and time for my full A would start counting BUT NOPE beacause there was little rain and call me off, AND NOW I NEED TO WAIT FOR FUCKING SPRING, I LOSE 5 MONTHS BEACAUSE OF THIS SHIET.
I got a 2010 vstrom 650 for my first bike. Cheap, reliable, goodlooking, and has enough power that im not upgrading every year.
The best part about it is the versatility. Has the engine of a cruiser (v twin) the power/control of a sport bike..kinda, and the capabilities of an offroad bike. Its really helped me decide what class of bike i want next.
Hello Mr. Yammer Sir!
I’m an experienced rider and have had a turdload of different bikes and brands over the years. At one point my garage was filled with an Italian cornucopia of overpriced jewels. Through it all I was one of the lucky ones who got to discover what bikes were right for me by owning a stable and long terming them down to the keepers. Long story short, all the fared bikes went away except one and naked was the most comfortable, maneuverable and fun making of them all. So I narrowed it down to the Tuono Racing, Monster S4R, Brutale, Husqvarna 610sm, KTM Superduke 990, Benelli TNT, and a KTM Duke 640 just to date this story. When life changed and I had to get rid of most of the bikes and decide which two I should keep it was the KTM Superduke which I still own today and the KTM 640 Duke. With your experience on many different steeds I bet you’re saying about now “I can see that”.
Fast forward new bikes that came my way include Duke 390... loved that bike. Harley 48 Sportster... fun for a few weeks. Moto Guzzi Griso...
cool but got tired of how giant it was. Honda Grom... sold after 2 months to get the 390. Ducati Full throttle Scrambler... for sale to grab the KTM 890 Duke. Most recent purchase was a Craigslist deal on a RC 390 with 400 miles on it. Thought there’d be no risk in getting my money back if I don’t like it. Digressing back to the only fared bike that stayed back in the day, that bike was a gray market Aprilia RS250 from Canada fully street legal. The KTM RC390 is the only bike that has given me the same thrill as the RS.
Having ridden the wheels off a Duke 390 I will have to say that the RC isn’t as comfortable but it does provide lots of fun in the twisties.
So I guess the point of all this is that now I watch the Noobster and I will have to say you’re pretty much on point with your opinions which are based on discoveries. I like that I can confidently ride what you’ve deemed a beginner bike and feel no shame. With all the new choices out there, I am still looking at the Duke 890 as the perfect choice for a one of 2 bikes stable. The other bike being the RC390... which if I do sell would probly be replaced with a Husky 401 Vitpilen... another beginner bike lol. I believe there is a place for a smaller cc bike in anyone’s stable at any riding level. You simply do not need a lot of unusable power to have a blast on 2 wheels. Nothing disturbs me more than the self proclaimed Ducatista with the brand new Ducati everything from the ground up, strolling through the canyon at low speed holding up other riders with his entitlement... after all he just spent $60k on his new bike and personifying apparel, why should he not be able to go slow if he wants? Anyway... in closing I’m always in tears with the Yam comedy show. Congrats on a great perspective show, you’re the best. Southern California is the place to be!
Keepem coming, Jonathan
my beginner bike is a 2006 Suzuki Boulevard M50K6 and it's treatin me well so far!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's super excited about the KLX 300 SM
Just snagged a 2006 600 katana for my first bike. I have a ton of experience on 450 two stokes on trails and tracks but no road experience so this is a whole new experience for me.
I'm convinced you'd love a RE if you rode one
Nope he won't, it's a bullshit cheapskate company
@@JiteshRout indian police is looking for you
@@indiaisamazing9434 hoping for me to give a damn?
I liked the 650 only. It was great riding it. Rest of them are weird. Don't like them.
@@JiteshRout the sad part is they used to be good.
I'm so grateful that you gave literally no time to the abomination that is the cross-bred BMW 310 series.
Meanwhile, RE Interceptor 650 gets lots of praises in all the reviews worldwide and becomes a top seller in the UK !
@@Retr0_Blues torn between the bmw g310gs (2021 model) and the interceptor 650. I own a bmw so I am desperately trying to fight my bias.
Only bike on that list that actually looks like a proper motorcycle. I’m returning to motorcycling after about 20 years and either getting the Interceptor 650 or a Guzzi V7. I’ve owned lots of bikes
@@dhhjsjzjzjjhsjsjh All motorcycles look like motorcycles, they all have 2 wheels and go. No shaming, and soon we can get rid of the combustion engine and all go electric, if you want exhaust sound then get the optional speakers so you can still waste powerpack energy the same as the sound of an engine note.
@@clover8673 Electric vehicles unfortunately are not any less wasteful than combustion engine vehicles YET. Most of the enegery that would go to charge the batteries in these vehicles comes from coal or nuclear energy. I would love for you to be right but we're just not there yet, don't be fooled by the marketing!
@@williammackenzie115 this is 100% true, until we stop pilfering the earth for lithium to make the batteries it won't be feasible
I got a cb500x around half a year ago and its one of the best choices I made!
Hey have a nice day random Person 👌🏻
back at you fellow squid!
You too!!!
You toi
Thank you! you too buddy
Nah it’s okay thanks tho
In what world is a 600cc+ bike going to be a good beginner bike?? 250 might be a little low, but I would recommend a 250 over a 650 any day. A beginner bike SHOULD be slow and not have allot of power or torque. When you first get on a bike you need to learn how it operates and the best way to do that is with a slow and very manageable bike. The MT-03 is a solid beginner bike that should be nowhere near the bottom of this list.
God Tier: Honda Monkey
Amen brother
I don't think the Honda 500 engines are lacking. I do think that part of how they're achieving its reliability. Seeing at about the 100,000 mile mark. That's nuts for a 471cc
Honda engines are absolutely great.
Doesn't create any problem at all when you put do some timely maintenance
higher torque than the kawi 400
@@deathtomorons9388 I've seen a crf 50 run without ant maintenance for years. Literally the dude put gas in it. That's it.
They make this power to fit into A2 license
Just passed my MSF course today!!
What motorcycle you’re getting?
@@miguel90744 I was looking at the Z400 or the Mt-03
@@thatpurplcat What’d you end up getting?
I started lessons in 2019 on a Yamaha MT7 2017 model, and i finished on a Honda CB600 2008, and i bought a Honda CB600 Hornet 2001 as a first bike, very forgiven and easy to ride in low RPM's and above 6K RPM to 12K RPM it goes vicious.
Bruh I literally saw this video on my recommended, went to go click and my chairs back snapped in half and I fell on my ass
Your chair just wanted to save you from this insanity
First time seeing someone making a tier list for the beginner category.
That's also making sense thanks team
Thing about watching a bunch of Yammie Noob videos in a small amount of time is you see loads of glaring contradictions. One of his Top Bad Trends in Motorcycles videos craps on TFT displays, but the last three videos I watched, he praises nice new TFT displays on tech advanced bikes. And that aint the only one!
my list would be something like this:
1. z400 (better power curve and reliability than the duke and also cheaper) $5000 44hp 399cc 364lbs
2. duke 390 (funky looks and enough power to keep you happy for a while) $5700 42hp 373cc 360lbs
3. yamaha mt-03 (cheapest of the 3 but has about 7-8 less hp than the z400) $4600 37hp 321cc 373lbs
i think anything over the 50hp mark are getting into the intermediate motorcycle zone.
Hi yammie! I bought my first bike today. A Yamaha R15v3. Rode a bike for the first time and it was my own and that too on an Indian busy road. And yes it was scary af. Lots of stalling and waddling. But I eventually got the bike safely home. Also made quite nice and complete U-turns. Thanks for making all the amazing content for beginner riders.
I am now officially a Squid!
I got it last year, best bike to start
@ i don't think that i think best for beginners is suzuki hayabusa 2000s turbo
I just bought a er6n 2006 it’s my first motorcycle and I’m extremely happy with it, I used to ride 125/150 when I was a kid in Colombia 🇨🇴
If you visit any Southeast Asia country, suddenly those puny 300cc become a real speed machine because small roads and people tend to ride something ranged from 50cc to 150cc
For Singapore, we have to complete a riding course in order to be certified to ride. Certifications is categorised by: Class 2B (Below 200CC), Class 2A (below 400CC) and Class 2 (ALL Bikes).
Class 2s are usually a bit too much and redundant, given that our country is quite small.
Meanwhile in Vietnam we don't need to complete each course
There are 4 in A class
A1: Below 175cc (test with 110cc motorcycle)
A2: Any motorcycle (test with 250cc motorcycle)
A3: Motorized Tricycle
A4: Tractor
Also they just need to meet this requirement: 18 years old or older
but they're so genius people in there make them fast and accelerated like crazy especially here in Indonesia and Malaysia
some people even Modify them with the cost of 3.000 to 4.000 dollars or even 7.000 dollars
They're genius, sure
But they are willing to risk people's life just for some money
@@pinospin9588 well its their life and their shit, maybe they addicted to the adrenaline? or prides? if they die they die, play stupid games win stupid prizes
I'm not sure why you'd say a 650 class bike would be considered a good beginner motorcycle. There's so much to learn and if you're on a 250 or 300 it's going to be one hell of a lot more forgiving than a bike with +70hp. One other thing is growing into a bike as a beginner is a stupid way to learn. If you're going to learn to ride, know it's expensive. Buy a small bike, learn on it for a year or two, then upgrade but only if you're ready. That's just my opinion though
Proud owner of an FZ07. I can never complain about confirmation bias on my purchase from last summer. And what's the etiquette on calling mine an MT07 nowadays despite FZ labeled on the bike?
I have the mt 03 for 3months and is amazing for your first bike
Why are you rolling all footage of a bike not being talked about?
If you're new to riding. And getting a new bike. DO NOT get a high HP bike. Start out with something sub 400cc. Ktm Duke 390 was a perfect starter for me. Plenty of power for a new rider. Light weight. And honestly looks better than most sub 400 cc bikes.
"I'd only buy it if it was the last bike one earth"...I just bought a used cbr 250r for my first bile lmaooo
I had a CBR250R for my first bike when I turned 15. I got to ride it three times before my buddy stalled it in third gear. Snapped an Intake Valve right from its stem and blew chunks of my piston into the transmission and out of the side of the cylinder liner
@@oyeog77 geez 🤦🏾♂️
I got a 2005 R6 to start on. Awesome bike. I absolutely love it. I had dirt bike riding experience and I knew I would respect the bike and I still have not dropped it. Very fun bike.
Everyone: "The Fz07 is a dangerous starter bike for absolute beginners."
Me- A guy who can't walk in a straight line, Can't ride a bicycle, and suffered multiple brain injuries. "Yep ill buy one."
Still rockin a 2015 fz07. Had to hang up the Huffy.
Dump the clutch and it’ll send ya off the back
@@Pray4Fairways It'll send ya off the back even if ya give it too much throttle in 1st and 2nd gear. Ive dumped the clutch many times. Only time it has came close to bucking me off was when I was messing around with the launch control after I had it tuned. 5k rpm launches. You just have to get used to the clutch and throttle. Just like any other bike.
I would like to thank you and some other youtubers that talk about bikes for noob's because of y'all i have started on a 2019 CBR300R and have all the right riding gear and took the riders course before buying my first bike i know i have a long way to go but man is it fun thank all of you for the good info and helping me become a safe rider
Yaaaay! Always nice to be told your choice of bike scored an "A", and I love my Duchess.
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My first bike was a 99 Honda CBR 600. That bike was a blast, so fun. I loved it. So fast, so light...It was very easy, very low maintenance. I paid $3200 for the bike, tax, title , and registration in 2015. had that bike for 3 years. Now I have a 14 GSXR750. what a difference. so much faster in the low rpms. not quite as light but was more stable at higher speeds.
listening to Yammy calling 8k bikes cheap, having my budget as low as 2k, “yeah man, sure”🌚
I got a Ducati Scrambler Icon Dark and I love it. Was not that expensive, off road capability ( not at the same level as a dual spot ), looks great and it's comfortable to ride
Dang u really E tierd the rebel?? That's crazy such a good learning bike and for dumb cheap
Doesnt wheelie tho, its such an important feature for beginner bikes /s
@@KSMinhoka Especially as beginners must be able to dump the clutch and send the bike flying.
my rebel 300 was amazing to learn on. super simple
@@Aygunrajabova wish I had a rebel when I was learning such a good looking bike
"beginner bikes" - 650s and 1000s
Dang me ol ninja 400 D tier 😳 oh well still love it.
Lol I'm the same, but personally I don't think there is a better bike to start on if you're into sports bikes. It's fast enough to get you into trouble (I know because I lost my licence for 6 months for speeding on it) but not too fast that you can't handle the speeds as a beginner. It's easy to ride and wicked fun and has really made me fall in love with riding. I'm excited to take the next step and move up to a faster bike but I'll always appreciate everything thing I learnt on my little ninja 400
@@thebigdog9785 Yeah thats kinda what I was thinking, I like sports bikes, so the S Tier wasn't really all what I was lookin for even if they're really good.
This is someone’s opinion. Start on whatever bike you want. Simple.
Here I am sitting on my 2008 Yamaha FZ6 and still enjoying it as an experienced rider. I bet it would likely be a good first bike if you're not a bad rider.
For starters I recommend using a 125cc
A little small. A 250 single will get to 60 mph faster than the Camry driver behind you talking on their phone or putting on their lipstick, and that's important. An MT-03 gets to 60 in 5.4 seconds and that will see off anything that's not an STI, Evo, or Tesla. Bikes like that are a lot safer than a 125. But you don't need more. And you want it light so you're not dropping it every time you have to stop suddenly in a parking lot, and can pick it up when you do.
@@BruceHoult I agree but when I say starters, I mean the dumb sophomore who has never ridden a day in his life and thinks he can handle a h2.
A 125 will get you where you want and teach you the drivers language. For someone who isn't a complete noob a 200 or 300 would be fine.
@@peanutbutterkz sure. They'll be fine in 30 - 40 mph zones. WE used to have an XL125S on the farm. Went ok off road and on back roads if you revved the tits off it. I'm looking at some acceleration results: 80 km/h: 10.7s, 50 mph: 10.9s, 60 mph: 33.6s, 100 km/h: 101.8s. So the last 2 mph took over a minute.
I’m back to window shopping for a bike… I was sooo close to getting my first street bike 6 years ago until I had a kid. Now I think I deserve to treat myself
I expected the R3 to be A or S tier but no just no
Ninja 400 also either A or S
yeah the R3/MT-03 and Ninja 400/Z400 are probably some of the best bikes you could ever start out on. Included the MT-03 & Z400 as they’re probably better for beginners compared to their sport variants (mainly the riding position). Incredible bikes for beginners but also have enough power to grow into a little bit. Won’t break the bank at around $5k.
Definitely A or S tier bikes.
@@sambeezy007 it would have been really funny if he ranked the ninja 300 above the four.
@@potatochobit yeah fr
I agree and he talks it up so much and says its a great bike in other videos but craps on it in this one
I really loved my 2013 Ninja 300 back when I had it. Rode that for 6 years before finally buying the bigger version (2013 Ninja 650) which unfortunately isn't nearly as fun to ride but gets the job done I guess. I will always recommend someone to buy a Ninja 300 if they can find one in decent condition. The 400cc version might be a little too much power for a beginner in my opinion.
I (and quite a few others) think that nobody should start on anything bigger than a 250cc
I wonder how many people have died when youtubers say that 300cc is not enough for a first bike
I got my svartpilen 250 delivered and I have been enjoying every moment of riding it (401 is not yet released in India)
30 bhp might not sound very powerful but it's good enough for a beginner, and especially for indian roads
It nice to finally graduate from being a bikeless- squid 🦑
Me too from india. Got one..
@@cuttingedge6911 nice !
Any plans for mods ?
I plan on getting a windscreen and adjustable levers ASAP
Maybe spoke wheels later too
I like to ride scooters. They are more fun for me. I like to drive slow things fast. Something special about it
Of course there has to be alot of corners though
If you are saying the Royal Enfield 650 twins are not great VFM beginner bikes, then i dont know what to say, so i wrote this comment, i am disappointed but your content is awesome so ill let this one slide 😅