Whether he's guilty or not, i think law enforcement bungled the case so badly that there will always be doubt. I wonder if those poor girls will ever truly get justice.
The case was very messy but he admitted his guilt to his wife and mother 61 times on the phone from jail. Not to the police who were interrogating him. If they were false confessions they would have been made to the interrogators not to his loved ones. He did it and he was confessing to ease his conscience, just my 2c. Hidden True Crime did some great episodes on this crime.
He admitted he was there, he saw the woman and those 4 girls (3 of them) he admitted to parking his car at the abandoned building, he said the picture the police had of him was him “unless one of those girls took it, then it’s not him” they absolutely got the right guy, jury did good, got a child k, off the streets!
Why would you as a family member drop your special granddaughter and her friend in the woods miles away with grandma's hair wrapped around her finger pulled from the scalp? Weird
This is the best version I’ve watched of this case. I’ve never heard of any of these factors. Thanks Mike once again you have not let us down. Great work.
This is the first I've heard of 80% of this tragic story. Thank you Mike for walking me through this horrid place. I don't believe we've seen the end of this one.
I would vote not guilty then... If we are not allowed to consider things which are within reasonable doubt, then how are we supposed to decide there IS reasonable doubt? I won't be forced into such a position. I don't want to send any innocent person to jail if there is any other possibilities. Did the judge decide for the jury by his words before they even got to deliberate? That seems wrong.
@TamaraDippel agreed. So much doubt, how did the jury ever convict? Thecase doesnt meet the standard of reasonable doubt. I have no trust in the justice system.
@TamaraDippel the jury didn't get to heat the judge tell them that they couldn't bring anyone else up so they had NO IDEA there were other suspects! It's just crazy they definitely railroaded this guy!!
Whether he did or did not do it, the judge, police, correction officers, and the DA's office did it all wrong. Which means it can all be pulled back. 🤦
If you believe everything you read online, you believe he is innocent. If you look at the evidence, it is clear he is guilty. Biggest problem in the US; ppl lack basic critical thinking skills. whatever supports your opinion you believe, whatever disproves your opinion, you don’t believe. It’s incredible. I could never live in the US
I personally don't believe he's guilty, it's all circumstantial... he even said he killed his family, what family? He's got none I hope true justice for these 2 beautiful girls comes RA didn't do it...
@@leaharchambault5796 I saw your multiple comments on here- You not living in the us makes sense of being ignorant of the law. Whether u think he did it or not is not the point. If there is any doubt or plausibility there shouldn’t be a conviction. I’m not saying he did it or not but the way the case and he has been handled is against his rights and he will likely end up a free man due to error on the law enforcements behalf. Americans are entitled to certain liberties and rights.
I was so excited when he was arrested, but the more I learned about the evidence against him, and the evidence for him, the more I feel gross about this entire trial.
The first judge recused himself because he said he was in fear of his life and Judge Gull is as corrupt and biased toward the prosecution as it gets. Also, compare Superintendent Doug Carter's voice to the "guys, down the hill" voice. And his behavior at the press conferences were downright bizarre. Something about him makes my hair stand on end.. This whole case needs to be reviewed by the feds.
I live in Indiana and have been hearing about this case since day one. I have to say that I have learned more details from your video than from the news. Seems to me with the judge's behavior, it opened the door to a successful appeal.
An appeal even without the judge was bound to happen. Crime scene mismanagement alone is enough as well as there not being enough enough soild evidence and it being circumstance . Now it’s all three combined. I wouldn’t be surprised if in a Supreme Court hes a free man
Hola from Ecuador. I was visiting Ball State University in Muncie when this story broke. There’s not much to do in central Indiana in February, so I was glued to the TV. Wasn’t the FBI called in to help with the investigation? I seem to recall that bit of info. That’s why I am surprised to hear that the investigation was so (allegedly) botched.
@@leaharchambault5796 I know enough to know that if they didn't allow certain evidence or if the appeals court feels like anything the trial judge, or anyone else involved really, did was inappropriate or in any way caused him to not get a fair trial it CAN be overturned, and then they would have to put him back on trial. You can call me ignorant all you want but I know more than you think. Sounds to me like you are speaking from your emotions instead of any actual knowledge.
@@1badcrow463 None that I can find. There are people out there that have vastly more knowledge of the case and the backgrounds of the key players than I do. Perhaps powerful people had an ax to grind with Allen or maybe everybody got tunnel vision and focused solely on him.
@@dcstigerBaldwin and Rozzi, the defense attorneys, leaked crime scene photos, but it was intentional, and that’s the reason they should have been removed. They say bad things about judge Gull because they don’t have any moral or ethical values.
I truly appreciate you FULLY covering this case! So many others just say he did it, end of. The Odinist theory sounds nuts, but when you dive into it, it really does make sense. There are only 2 things I think are important to mention: 1) Elvis when talked to about the murders asked a police officer "if you find my spit on one of the bodies, but I have a good explanation will I still be in trouble?" 2) Dr. Wala (RAs psychologist in prison) was obsessed with the case. She was in a number of groups dedicated to the murders. Many of which mentioned the possibility of a van! She then would talk to RA about said groups. It was also a unrecorded confession he supposedly told her that mentioned the white van. This is what the prosecution said was the thing only the killer would know! This case is horribly sad and I truly hope that one day there will be true justice for all involved!
@@maygeep5123 totally agree with you. I am also very suspicious of the bullet they found. I do believe it was found where they said. However, never in my life have I ever heard of an unspent round getting enough identification marks to be able to say what gun it might have been inside of. I'm not expert, however I am getting my criminology degree from one of the countries prestigious universities in forensics. I'm not saying I'm prestigious. But the classes I have to take, not one of them, not one of them have ever mentioned that unspent rounds can be used in this way as a definitive identification of a weapon. It's junk science.
@@PamelaH_HappyVibes I think one YOUNG man could have, but it would have been chaotic. I also don't believe the girls were there all that time. It doesn't make any sense that they went searching for them and didn't find them alive. Just too much of it doesn't make sense for it to have been right there in the woods where they could have easily been seen. It sounds like the person or persons who did this spent a lot of time with the bodies. That would have been noticed, especially if a guy driving a white van could have noticed something from across the creek.
@@CharliCharboneau that's what he meant when he said "it doesn't matter, it's over" 😞 law enforcement claim this was a reference to getting caught, but he/his lawyers clarified that he meant that the damage had been done. such a shame
I’m be gained SOOOO much respect for your channel. I’ve followed & have eaten up everything I can about this case. I’ve been so disappoint to see no one cover from all angles. This is a story that has more than two victims.
I first saw the thumbnail and title... I watched all the updates on this trial daily (from lawtubers, considering the public was simply not allowed) was hoping he covered everything...not just okay, here's the guy..he did it.. the end..there's SO much more... I feel awful for both families here.. and it seems the justice system let them both down.
P.s this vid has been up for 3 hours. 68k views . Proper OG is our Mike 👍 no bells and whistles, just really great at telling stories . We appreciate it man 👏💚
@@Cris_is_wicked i watch everything mike puts out, he has a great detail and is emotionally respectful which makes it worth the watch even if i know of the story.
Thank you for covering this. As a resident who lived 45 minutes away, I can't tell you how jarring & heartbreaking this case was for the community & the families.
Lawyer Andrea Burkhart sat through the entire trial, wrote down exactly what happened - every question, answer, objection, judge ruling, side bars etc then live streamed her entire dictation every night. Her videos are the closest we will ever come to knowing what happened behind those closed doors. It's weeks worth of time but well worth the watch if you want the truth of the trial. (esp. since the judge denied access to the court audio tapes, which the public is legally entitled to...wonder why that is?)
Richard Allen got a fair trial but after such a flawed and overly secretive police investigation, the judge was wrong to ban all journalists' recording equipment from the court. Unfortunately her lousy call allowed all the crazy conspiracy theorists out there to troll their 'Richard Allen is innocent' shyte to the max! When you look at the established facts and the crime timeline, he is clearly the murderer. Witnesses saw only one man there that day, the man on Libby's video. Richard Allen IS 'Bridge Guy', he confirmed it when he came forward 2 days after the crime and told authorities he was there at the exact time of the murders, wearing the exact same clothes as the suspect on Libby's video. And Bridge Guy is undoubtedly the killer! Police released a still image from Libby's video to all TV news stations right after, appealing to him to come forward - Allen saw himself, freaked out, and decided he'd better get ahead of it and pretend he was just a witness, not the killer, before he got the police knock on the door. He knew several women saw him there that day, plus he had a public job serving at a Delphi pharmacy. But he needn't have worried - despite his early confession, the Keystone Cops wouldn't catch up with him for a staggering FIVE YEARS! The incompetence of Indiana Police under buffoon Supt Doug Carter is incredible. They should be held fully accountable for their multiple, serious mistakes which let Allen the double child killer walk the streets for all that time. Libby ultimately solved the murder of herself and her friend Abby - without her video of him, Allen never would have come forward, and he would have escaped justice for this horrible, sexually motivated crime. Who knows how many other females Allen would have killed/sexually assaulted, if he hadn't been identified as Bridge Guy/the murderer? Libby wanted to work in law enforcement when she grew up. She will never grow up, but her incredibly courageous video put her and Abby's killer behind bars, and undoubtedly saved other lives. She was a hero that day, and so was Abby as she almost certainly helped her hide the phone from Allen. God bless those beloved girls, now justice is finally served, may they rest peacefully, held safe in the hearts of all who love them.
@@heavensxnt The right to a fair trial was denied even before he set foot in a court room, when he was moved into prison rather than jail during pre-trial detention. That alone undermines the entire proceedings and will cost the Indiana taxpayer thousands when the case returns on appeal - and is far from the only error the judicial system made, to say nothing of the prosecution or defense.
First, great coverage of this case... better than the actual authorities. Must of this I have never heard of. I now have no clue if he is guilty. If the jury would have actually gotten to hear all this, they would definitely have reasonable doubt. I'm not sure if he did it, but I am sure this whole thing was bungled. These poor girls will never truly get justice. Oh, and Delphi is terrifying... good grief.
What integridah is there in a children's entertainment channel that constantly says the words "turd", "turdy", etc, talking about "turdy trees", and so on. Not a good role model
Been following this case pretty closely over the past month. Mike's summary is great as always. Appreciate the lack of bias in what had been a polarizing case.
Oh this case has consumed me and my bf. I live in Indiana and most of us are very upset at the whole entire justice system. All corrupt. Bad rabbit hole 🕳️ if you look at alllll the connections.
Man this is messed up. Firstly, poor girls, secondly, what an utter botched investigation, evidence, ballistics and tunnel-visioned investigators and judges. All these people should be punished for this, it is NOT ON! Thank u Mikey for covering this so well & unbiased way x x x RIP 🕊💞Libby & Abby 💞🕊x x x
In the past week I’ve watched hours and hours of news stories since Richard Allen was found guilty. You have given me more information in less than 45 minutes than all the news stories combined! Great job!!! ❤
@@m420-nd1ifwhy don’t you make videos of them? You support the causes that affect your life and let people from your own country stop their own conflicts and stop blaming everyone else for your problems.
I've been following this case for years, and was so pleased when I learnt that the killer had been (finally) caught and brought to justice. that was my thinking at the *start* of this. now. wow. well. WOW. ok. so *A* person has been convicted of this crime. has justice been served? I think not - far too many questions. scary stuff - people _IN_ the system, unanswered questions. thanks for your indepth coverage Mike - so very much appreciated.
I take it you’ve never been to central or maybe southern Indiana? Apologies in advance, please understand, I say the following with the least possible amount of intended offense, but the voice clip, clothing, practically a uniform for men around here, and general walk, describes around 65% of the male population here. It was another factor that made this case especially unnerving; all of us were passing by men who looked like the killer, everyday, with no end in sight. At the store, on the street, in the fields, and as cliche as it is, it could have been anyone in town, standing right next to you.
That's about one of the strongest cases I've seen for the fact that there was just too much reasonable doubt. I cannot honestly say that he was guilty beyond A reasonable doubt. And I don't think anybody could.
@@donmoore7785What on earth does not being a member of the jury have to do with stating an opinion, as was asked by Mike? No one but the people in the courtroom can have an opinion? Is that your logic?
honestly and sadly it kinda sounds like they may have the wrong guy...or potentially it was 2 men and the one caught wasnt the actual offender...who knows... RIP to the 2 beautiful souls taken
Before the Odinism was mentioned I was thinking, “Richard Allan, not guilty beyond reasonable doubt.” Not only because of Richard himself but because of the shanghai tactics of the court case - no proper trial = not guilty. Richard’s defence team was amazing. Do not underestimate the power & evil of a cult, nor that they don’t exist, only naive & gullible people do not believe in the existence of evil cults.
I appreciate your channel more than most other true crime channels. Your respect to the victims, the presentation of evidence, and not going off into the crazier conspiracy theories other than occasionally referencing how wild some people get with them make this one of my top 3 channels. Love ya Mike! Keep doing what ya do brother!
This is my fav channel and I've watched all the videos. Unfortunately on this one a lot of the research Mike is presenting is misinformation that has been debunked!
Whether he did it or not becomes ALMOST secondary to how poorly the investigation and the prisoner were handled, and thatsthe problem. Nobody should be treated like that before they're even convicted. Then, the way the judge treated the defense was definitely broken and one-sided. In the end, it makes people call into question the entire process, and it should be a great model for future police and judges on how not to handle a case🤔
I personally don’t think there was enough evidence to convict. The jury saw stuff that hasn’t been released to the public, so I’m on the fence about the verdict. In the end, I want justice for Abby and Libby
I feel the same way to. The investigation was so flawed like the majority of all police departments conducted. This is such a shame because many people are wrongly convicted or take a plea bargain.
Some very strange occurrences with the clothes and sticks along with testimony of others seeing a younger man, just don’t seem to fit a pharmacist or tech. One of the most gut wrenching crimes in the Midwest I remember.
His confession was "it's over, I'm done, I did it" after being kept in solitary confinement for MONTHS and every time he got out of solitary he was beaten half to death by other inmates. His treatment literally breaks the Geneva convention. And the judge refused to allow the jury to hear about his treatment and mental state during his confession. At this point it doesn't even matter if he did it, there is no way to look at this case and believe it's proven beyond a reasonable doubt which means that the conviction needs to be overturned
I appreciate your coverage on this Mike. This was a mess of a trial. I don't know if he did it but i sure as hell know there was plenty of reasonable doubt.
I know he did it because he said he did it I'd never confess to my loved ones about doing something like that and don't bring up the isolation he was always going to be isolated whether it be county jail or prison people who do what he did are not treated well in jail or prison and have to be separated for their safety
@@ITZCHELSEA2244 Elvis, the one who asked the trooper what would happen if his spit was on the girls but he could explain it, confessed to his sisters, who went to police with his confession right after the murders. He's the one who ignored his subpoena and didn't show up during trial. Solitary confinement is a form of torture. Esp when combined with anti psychotic drugs and an unethical psychologist all up in the state propaganda channels. I suggest you watch the 7 years of deep dive investigations of the true crime researchers and not the corruption complicit corp media.
@@ITZCHELSEA2244 Your argumentation makes no sense, re the isolation. It's not that he was isolated, but for how long. People went nutz during the lock-downs, just for being in their own home, with internet and phones still at hand. Imagine you sit for months in a small room, lights always on, no way to feel comfy just for a second. Always on edge, no one talks to you, maybe only to tell you to get up. Think about THIS, how it would be for YOU. Ignore about who we talk here, idk if he is guilty or not, bad people can go insane, too, in such a situation. Just try to put the confinement into perspective.
Hi Mike. You’ve done an amazing job of this case study. As opposed to the one sided opinions of the general media. Your unbiased reporting is appreciated. 🇨🇦
I truly don't know if Richard Allen is guilty, but from reports, it sure sounds like there's a bucket load of reasonable doubt.. The girls deserve justice and I hope they got it.
@mikebond6328 all the reports I can see several in this video alone. You should watch it . Mike brings the facts with lots of reasonable doubt as to RA guilt.
Wow I didn't know the extent of his pre-trial treatment. That is cruel and unusual. I don't think they achieved justice for those girls and their family.
@ginachenney5733 you understand that the bullet found near their bodies has almost certainly been cycled through his gun. The chances of another gun making those exact marks is astronomical. And if you listen to his jailhouse phone call confessions, he was not under duress. He said "I don't know what to tell you, mom. As I sit here talking to you, I did it..." I'm ashamed that Mike would make a POS video like this.
No Danny. Even the state's witness didn't say the bullet 'match' a sure science. In fact, she could not match the unspent round. After not matching, she had to fire the gun 5-6 times to get a fired round that had 'some agreement' to the unspent round found at the scene as per her notes. This whole "science" is on shakey ground and some US states have completely disallowed it as 'evidence'. There is actually no science behind matching an unspent round to a spent round, none. He was very unwell when he 'confessed'. Both defence and state witnesses testified about his months of severe psychosis and involuntary haldol injections. If he truly confessed, where is the signed statement? How come we still don't know what happened to those girls? In addition, all witnesses described a different man which does not match Rick's appearance at all. And there is electronic data which also refutes that Rick could be the perpetrator.
Hey Mike, thank you for covering this case. I live in Indiana and travel through Delphi at least once a week. I have followed this case since day 1. I believe there is more to come, more players.
Mike, i am truly happy for your success! You have the right charm and know exactly when to pop a joke while remaining respectful for the victims. I wish you continued success!
@@fireicemetal No he did not. The cops said he did at the start of August 2024. But he didn't. He said 'van'. The cops didn't even know there was a van, because, actually, there was no van there at that time. BW said in his initial interview and for years and year that he got home at 3:30. And. Even if BW got home with his van at 2:30 - that leaves 2 mins to get the girls across the creek, up the bank, AW redressed in LG's clothes. I'm not buying it for one second.
I was apprehensive about watching this one, considering I've seen so many videos about this case, and how they eventually caught Richard Allan. You took on a completely different approach to this case, which makes me reconsider everything I've watched. The girls were so young, and just enjoying a day out exploring. It's sad. Great video Mike--as always.
You probably think Scott Peterson is innocent too huh? The judge was completely fair to the defense. She just didn’t let in theories that had zero evidence to back it up like odinism. There has literally never been an odinist human sacrifice and white supremecists aren’t out here killing little white girls.
Mike has covered this better and more extensively than any other TH-camr and news outlet combined. This was so detailed and easy to follow. I loved how he outlined the prosecutors side and then went into detail about all the other evidence. Was actually so so good. I’ve obsessively followed this case for years and haven’t seen anyone lay it all out this well. So impressed! Mike’s still got it after all this time! I actually finally understand this case Watching for the 3rd time this morning now
It's hard to believe that there are US prisons where people are kept in those barbaric conditions - especially before trial. I wish Libby's and Abby's families healing and peace.
I tend to agree but also, those prisoners are the worst of the worst. The crimes they're guilty of were inhumane, they are where they're supposed to be. It's hard to defend their treatment, especially when it involves children.
@@cdes1776 But he wasn't even convicted yet. What about innocent until proven guilty?! For me he looks like someone who was broken. Probably they put him there on purpose, especially knowing his medical conditions beforehand.
@@alisong2328 yes and the only exception in RA case was that he was held in a prison, not a jail pretrial. Many high profile inmates in jail will end up in segregation... put his charges to that even harder and then his self doing something wish made it almost impossible to keep him safe without isolating him... but that happens to many inmates in jail and prison in the US... so RA wasn't really treated different than others except prison/jail pretrial
First thing I thought. No DNA or Evidence at all placing him at the scene. The man suffers from mental illness so they locked in knowing he was a weak link. He’s psychotic now so he’ll never be the same if his case is overturned. Very disturbing.
Nope, not an atom of reasonable doubt. Richard Allen came forward to authorities on 15th February 2017, 2 days after the killings, and said he was there at the Delphi trails on the date and time of the crime, wearing the exact same clothes as Bridge Guy - ie the killer Libby filmed. He effectively identified himself as Bridge Guy because a still image of him from that video was splashed across every TV news station, and he was scared he would be identified by someone else. Not only did he know several witnesses saw him there that day, he had a job working with the public at a local Delphi pharmacy. Only one man was seen there that day - Bridge Guy, Richard Allen. Allen was freaked out, and decided he'd better get ahead of the police by claiming he was there as an innocent witness, not the killer. But he needn't have worried - the Keystone Cops wouldn't call him in for interview for another FIVE YEARS! Their mistakes in the case were huge and frequent. In custody, Allen confessed to murdering Libby and Abby 61 times. These were not confessions made under pressure during police interrogations, or given under any kind of duress/police intimidation. He freely confessed, including to his wife and mother on prison phone calls and face to face. He wanted to unburden himself of his guilt, and hoped his family would accept what he was telling them, and show him unconditional love and support. Instead his wife and mom clamped their hands over their ears, shut him down and refused to believe him. How many times does someone have to confess to you, before you believe them?! He even shared details only the killer knew, like the box cutter tool he used to slash the girls' throats, and the white van that drove past as he was abducting them (police tracked down that van driver - he made that exact same journey, on that road, at that time, every weekday, as a delivery man). There's a ton more evidence including the bullet found between the girls' bodies that came from Allen's gun. The jury got it right, and a dangerous child killer and sex predator is thankfully where he belongs, and will die. But he should have been identified and charged within 1 week of the crime, when he walked into that 'tip line' office and reported he was there that day. It's insane police failed to follow up - as I say, there was only one man seen there that day, it was Bridge Guy/Richard Allen. Thanks to police mistakes, the conspiracy theorists will continue to have fun and hysterically claim he's an innocent man. He isn't - he did it. And it was Libby's courageous video that flushed him out - without that image of him plastered across TV screens, Allen never would have come forward, and would be a free man to this day. Libby wanted to work in law enforcement one day. What an asset she would have been - at just 14 years old, her video solved her and Abby's murders. She was a hero that day, as was Abby who helped hide the phone from Allen.
Yep. The defense doesn't have to prove he's innocent. He clearly did not get a fair trial, was treated abominably, and there is PLENNY reasonable doubt.
I was following this case on Twitter for a few years and lost track of it. I remember a lot of people were saying this was a frame up and the arguments for and against would get quite heated. Good to see this back under your spot-light, Mike.
Bc the information in the video isn’t correct, and literally everything used to point to RA being innocent is laughable. Ppl just won’t accept that and bc of that information isn’t correct. Like it couldn’t have been him who said down the hill, it is in fact not true. She put the phone in her pocket as he came upon them. They continue talking, they say high to him as he gets close to them, they see he has a gun bc “is that a gun” is heard. Then he orders them down the hill. That chapter isn’t bad and I’m positive he’s getting bs information he believes to be true, but it isn’t.
Currently living a bit outside of Delphi, and I'm so glad to finally see things being addressed in court. The woo-woo hullabaloo around Allen has been so frustrating to listen to the last two years. Abby and Libby deserved the world, and since their loss, their families deserve peace.
Have you seen that guy Perez police get him to confess to his father's murder after he reported him missing, police were convinced I was him. Threatening to kill his dog got his friend to help convince him and confess. The father actually just wanted to get away showed up a week later. Police still screwed with him after finding out too... I'm not convinced it was Allen. Police know alot more, corruption is rife....
The family is not getting justice if Allen is innocent; the case was bungled so badly, and Allen’s mental state so badly damaged that it is not clear he did it.
Thank you for giving both perspectives on this case! It seems like every news outlet is treating this like huzzah we got him! But I still feel weird about this and that justice was not served for Abby and Libby. I feel like it was a younger guy. Put anyone in solitary confinement for months and give them evidence photos and they will be so sick in the head at that point they will say anything. So torn about this case
Thanks for doing this case Mike. I live in illinois and think of Abby and Libby often. Poor girls. More information presented here than the news. This whole case is a mess. Keep up the great work, friend. ❤
I thought the US was the model for upholding individual freedoms. To be able to imprison someone in solitary confinement for 13 months without proof of guilt. Yikes!
The only "Freedom" we have is to be corrupt. It's all about looking good at catching the "bad guy" even if it's not the person who committed the crime. Ugh I'm sorry but I am very disappointed and demoralized atm.
Guilty until proven innocent, extortionate bail conditions, US has the worst, most unjust, most corrupt legal system, slave trade in plain sight, corporate greed, disgusting
Wow, where did you get that idea. We have a Bill of Rights that has been so destroyed during first the War on Drugs and the War on Terror and just the basic war on poor people, particularly poor people of color, that the first, fourth, and fifth amendments might as well be toilet paper.
Thank you for covering this case so thoroughly! I'd heard bits and pieces and it was good to hear everything. Sounds like he deserves another, and fair, trial. We love you too!
There isn't too many questions. The only real discrepancies are eye witness testimony. Eye witness testimony is notoriously the least reliable evidence in court, because memory itself is notoriously unreliable. Everything else, except for some small details caused by lazy investigators, points right to Richard Allen. He confessed 60 times. You can say "Oh he's clearly insane" based on his behavior, but I'm willing to bet he hasn't eaten any court documents or a single turd since the verdict was reached.
@@MatsThyWit Thank you! Got tired of the Odinist nonsense. The man was there. Had the clothing. Looks and sounds like Bridge Guy. Owned the weapon/ammunition. Admitted it and gave a coherent, accurate account of the events (something that someone who was in psychosis wouldn't be able to do). No evidence of Odinism (red herring by the defense) and people are upset that the judge wouldn't allow the defense to come up with some convoluted false accusation of a vast Odinist conspiracy. Occam's Razor.
Hi Mike…I just love you dude! Been watching you for a long time now and I can see that even YOU think this case is janky as hell!!! To think that there are people out there who believe that the girls got their justice now baffles me!!! This is not justice!! Putting an innocent man in prison from a case that has a hell of a lot of holes and so much Reasonable doubt, is not, Justice!!!!
See the shoddy wrongful arrest of Karen Read & the absolute corruption of Massachusetts Police, DA & Judge. It's very common for Police & the courts to convict innocent people after doing a shoddy investigation.
These poor girls. So horrible. The one thing I'm grateful for is their situational awareness, they basically solved their own murders with a cell phone. Rest in Peace Abby & Libby 💔
@@ABTHEYAPPERHe was VERY mentally I’ll when he made the “confessions.” There is absolutely no other evidence that he was there or did the crime. I am not convinced at all that he did it. If anything, his conviction was a travesty of justice.
I watched this on a 48 hour special about a month ago, and was happy to hear they had caught whoever it was.. but after hearing this I’m just shocked! None of these factors were listed. It’s truly crazy how bad the police botched this investigation
I’m absolutely not convinced Richard Allen did that. Was there any evidence of the crime scene found at his home? I watched many many hours of podcasts surrounding this case and many seemed convinced Richard is the guy but none seemed to respect the role the defense plays in our court system. And while I could see the appetite for wanting justice served, we need to be 100 % certain and it definitely seems like the jury had its doubts
He literally had seven years to get rid of evidence 😓 there’s reporting that he was burning shit in his backyard after the murders. He admitted to being on the bridge at the same time and in the same outfit and seeing the same witnesses as bridge guy. It’s not that hard to fit the pieces together.
OK seven years for his house to clean-?fine….how long was he able to magically get rid of his DNA hair blood sweat out of the crime scene there’s not there wasn’t a stitch a fiber so this guy is the world‘s most perfect killer. He took their clothes off. put the clothes of the wrong girl on the other girl, not a single piece of evidence but this very strange very not forensic bullet give me a break and you mean to tell me that Tattoo and that weird Oden stuff doesn’t give you pause and how a few of these people were murdered FBI was thrown out of the case does a huge profile case for the FBI wants to help since when is a little Podunk town through the FBI out?!???
@@heavensxnt I'm not saying he isn't the guy - what I'm saying is it seems a little strange that there's no DNA evidence, and that convicting him solely on witness testimony and due to his confessions seems a bit iffy. We should all want the same thing - like what if he isn't the guy and the real killer is out there? Regarding evidence at the house - I don't think you realize how hard it is to get rid of evidence.
This is a terrible miscarriage of justice. The police botched the investigation, the judge is an a-hole, and the suspect was basically tortured and made false confessions during psychotic episodes. It's outrageous.
His first confession was not made to the police…he was not under duress. He was not notably “psychotic” yet. That didn’t happen until his lawyer got wind of his big mouth. He’s a disturbed man who changed his mind about confessing. He was NOT in solitary confinement. He had visitors daily. He had the opportunity to talk to his psychiatrist DAILY. That is not how solitary works.
@@1badcrow463 Circumstantial evidence is just as valid and weighed the same as forensic evidence. Sufficient circumstantial evidence alone convicts. Educate yourself.
@donmoore7785. If you are referring to DNA as "forensic evidence" which is not a legal term, your wrong. In fact DNA evidence is circumstantial evidence, educate yourself
I'm glad you're covering the updates, people wanted this case solved so bad they just heard there was finally possible justice they don't bother to look into it. It's sad that either Richard is innocent, and the real person will get away, or he is and officials have completely screwed up the case regardless so will never really know.
Making a Murderer 2.0 Poor girls and their families thinking they've put the right predator away. This man has suffered enough. Tell me how we work together to get him out and look for the actual suspect. Thanks Mike for the update. Love your channel. This is the only crime channel I watch and do have nightmares. No one can do what you do. Excellent work 👏
Thanks for the update on this case Mike. ♥ I think it is a pity that the judge placed so many restrictions on the defense. Everyone deserves a fair trial and that should include the same rights and conditions that any other defendant had. It leaves some doubt about the verdict.
(Haven’t finished yet). This case has always stuck with me deeper than others. I was almost sure he did it when he and his wife started acting really strange after his arrest. I don’t typically believe every “confession,” there are so many litigating circumstances in interrogation rooms. The jury saw more than we did, but it doesn’t seem like he got a fair trial. It seemed all very biased and one sided. It’s happened before where they just “need” a conviction. This still feels unresolved to me, I’m on the fence. To me, this seems more ritualistic and that it wasn’t his first time if it was him. I’ve always just wanted Libby and Abby deserve true justice. 💜
There was plenty reasonable Doubt after the state rested. LITERALLY they couldn't prove nothing with there lack of evidence that they showed . Didn't prove who BG was. DIDNT Prove BG even committed the murders, if RA was BG then how did he stay working at CVS and none of the witness who seen BG never seen BG working at CVS . I dont think they even found a bullet becuase it was mentioned in. RON LOGANS affidavit when they did search of his property...
This case baffles me. I watched Hidden True Crimes daily coverage of the trial (Lauren was in the courtroom). I’m still not 100% convinced and think there are good points on both sides. I was surprised the jury was able to agree on a verdict. RIP Libby and Abby ❤.
Lauren is great, but she AND John got a bunch of details wrong on this one and missed a lot of what others in the courtroom caught. I actually lost a lot of respect for Dr. John over his coverage of this case because he leapt to conclusions based on bad facts and at one point entirely made up a story about RA having a domestic abuse past when in reality, his wife called the police not because of DV but because he was suicidal and needed to go to the hospital. At another point Dr. John stated that the same thing that caused him to park his care suspiciously by the CPS building is what led him to kill the girls…um… it is well established that the “suspiciously parked car” (what the hell does that even mean?!?) could NOT have been RA’s car because it was parked there the whole day and they have his car arriving or leaving at 1:30pm. It was there before and after that time.
Great job Mike. SO many people have gotten so many facts wrong about this case. The rumor and gossip mill has been in overdrive on this one. This video should be required viewing for those wanting to know the true facts in this case. I do think you maybe slightly over-emphasized some of the theories that the kooks out there have spread around, but it's still factual. good video!
If I was a juror, (and I have been on jury duty from time to time) I would not have enough evidence (since there doesn't seem to be any) to convict this guy. The judge alone would have pissed me off so bad that I would not have been able to listen to anything prudent about the prosecution's case. Horrible story on both sides.
@heavensxnt Mike asked his audience what they thought of this case. He didn't ask everyone to berate those who decided to weigh in. Try and remember that next time!
@ last time I checked I can comment on whatever video or comment I want. I am subscribed to this channel and even if I weren’t I have every right to comment whatever I want.
The hospital phone thing interfering with medical equipment is BS. I work in a very large hospital and everyone carries I Phones to get calls, emergency and other calls!
This myth still is in ppls heads from back in the time where cell phones disturbed the radio equipment communication. In germany we had the rule that no phones were allowed in hospital but it was in the early stages of cell phones. I remember it and the myth is still in older ppls heads
I was just at the hospital last week visiting my mom and there was a sign asking to please turn off cell phone.. I didn't but there was a sign about it. 🤷
Not because you didn't witness malfunction that it cannot happen. I think you should go back to school and study more in the the electro magnetic field before making such a moron statement cause you obviously have no freaking Idea What you are talking about
I even found it odd they refused the trial to even be broadcast. There something afoot in Delphi. They say all that’s in the dark comes to light and with things coming out about Hollyweird let’s hope that continues here too.
I grew up out in the middle of nowhere similar to this, and me and a friend would spend all day just walking around forests and back roads just like this. Had a few close calls with creeps, usually lone men either following us in their trucks or trying to call out to us to come over. Thankfully me and my friend were both flighty and would just book it away immediately together. These poor girls were not so lucky, and I seriously hope that their killer hasn't slept a wink since.
@@ITZCHELSEA2244 But he also said he killed his wife and daughter and granddaughter. His wife and daughter are alive and well. He's never had a grandchild.
@@fulanichild3138 Yeah & he's also been playing the crazy card since basically day one. What a better way to show ur just making things up than to say u killed ur still alive family?! Or confess & then immediately start singing the star spangled banner & wacking off?! Dude does crap that he thinks someone who's nuts would do. It just seems incredibly obvious to me that he's faking crazy to get out of it one way or another. There's a reason he was STILL found competent for trial! Anyone who's really that far gone wouldn't be found competent to proceed... but he's faking.And it's not the judge who decides that so people can't make that excuse either!
This case hits to close to home for me. We're not far from Delphi. Have been watching this case from the moment the girls went missing. Thanks Mike! ❤️💚🧡💛
Massive reasonable doubt with this case imo 🤷🏼♀️ The case was screwed! He was coerced into confessing by making him crazy and giving him all the case notes! The police was narrow minded and the judge was even worse! If he doesn’t get his conviction overturned because of her I’ll be surprised. He could well be guilty but there’s doubt for me.. I hope this taught more parents to not let there children go/play in woods/trails like this… it’s not safe! I hope Abby and Libby get justice
Thanks for watching! Pretty wild case, not sure where I fall down but let me know your thoughts!
Hi Mike!!
Thanks so much for so many awesome videos on Friday :D
Thanks for doing a round 2 Mike!
Appreciate the integrity you bring and maintain within the TH-cam true crime community.
Keep up the brilliant work.
Cheers m8!
Wait, wut? Why haven’t I heard of these other theories and shady goings-on by LE? Thanks for covering this, so sad.
i live in indiana... the whole justice system here failed those girls.
Fellow Hoosier here, I agree 💯
And richars allem
America justice is design to protect capital not people
Well we know Indiana people are not that bright. Go start a fanclub.
What a shame, though the justice system is bad, not just in Indiana.
Whether he's guilty or not, i think law enforcement bungled the case so badly that there will always be doubt. I wonder if those poor girls will ever truly get justice.
The case was very messy but he admitted his guilt to his wife and mother 61 times on the phone from jail. Not to the police who were interrogating him. If they were false confessions they would have been made to the interrogators not to his loved ones. He did it and he was confessing to ease his conscience, just my 2c. Hidden True Crime did some great episodes on this crime.
Not one ounce of doubt.
"No Mom, I did it"
He is absolutely guilty
@@irishhoopers6899 Were those confessions not also while he was going insane and eating shit? Or was he somewhat sane at the time?
He admitted it people move on.
What in the?? I had no idea this case got this bonkers. This is absolutely mad.
Right I think the same I was thinking they got their man ! But then they have no evidence weird story
@@AnEchoofNightreally? There’s a 1 second audio clip. Would you convict a person for life or death based on 1 second of audio?
He confessed 61 times!!
He admitted he was there, he saw the woman and those 4 girls (3 of them) he admitted to parking his car at the abandoned building, he said the picture the police had of him was him “unless one of those girls took it, then it’s not him” they absolutely got the right guy, jury did good, got a child k, off the streets!
Why would you as a family member drop your special granddaughter and her friend in the woods miles away with grandma's hair wrapped around her finger pulled from the scalp? Weird
This is the best version I’ve watched of this case. I’ve never heard of any of these factors. Thanks Mike once again you have not let us down. Great work.
Appreciate how you always try to take an unbiased approach by looking at State's evidence & Defense's argument, and not just the popular argument!
its funny how half the video, you can fully be convinced that it was him. Then in the other half... not so sure anymore lol.
I've just commented about feeling the same way. 😔 @@trent2kg813
Same!
Agreed but is your last name really Batman
@@CantTellYoubong
This is the first I've heard of 80% of this tragic story. Thank you Mike for walking me through this horrid place. I don't believe we've seen the end of this one.
Ya I didn't know all these details
Did you look for them? @@chaddevine565
Really? There were tons of videos about it, it's actually hard to find new facts here.
I think you're right!!!
100% same here
Once the judge said that they couldn’t talk about any other suspects, it was over for him
I would vote not guilty then... If we are not allowed to consider things which are within reasonable doubt, then how are we supposed to decide there IS reasonable doubt? I won't be forced into such a position. I don't want to send any innocent person to jail if there is any other possibilities. Did the judge decide for the jury by his words before they even got to deliberate? That seems wrong.
@@TamaraDippelabsolutely
100%
@TamaraDippel agreed. So much doubt, how did the jury ever convict? Thecase doesnt meet the standard of reasonable doubt. I have no trust in the justice system.
@TamaraDippel the jury didn't get to heat the judge tell them that they couldn't bring anyone else up so they had NO IDEA there were other suspects! It's just crazy they definitely railroaded this guy!!
Whether he did or did not do it, the judge, police, correction officers, and the DA's office did it all wrong. Which means it can all be pulled back. 🤦
They endangered the case and now conviction especially the judge.
I feel this is what is going to happen. What a bizarre case. Tragic for those teens, their families, and those who were affected.
If you believe everything you read online, you believe he is innocent. If you look at the evidence, it is clear he is guilty.
Biggest problem in the US; ppl lack basic critical thinking skills. whatever supports your opinion you believe, whatever disproves your opinion, you don’t believe. It’s incredible. I could never live in the US
I personally don't believe he's guilty, it's all circumstantial... he even said he killed his family, what family? He's got none I hope true justice for these 2 beautiful girls comes RA didn't do it...
@@leaharchambault5796 I saw your multiple comments on here- You not living in the us makes sense of being ignorant of the law. Whether u think he did it or not is not the point. If there is any doubt or plausibility there shouldn’t be a conviction. I’m not saying he did it or not but the way the case and he has been handled is against his rights and he will likely end up a free man due to error on the law enforcements behalf. Americans are entitled to certain liberties and rights.
I was so excited when he was arrested, but the more I learned about the evidence against him, and the evidence for him, the more I feel gross about this entire trial.
Reasonable doubt 100%
The first judge recused himself because he said he was in fear of his life and Judge Gull is as corrupt and biased toward the prosecution as it gets. Also, compare Superintendent Doug Carter's voice to the "guys, down the hill" voice. And his behavior at the press conferences were downright bizarre. Something about him makes my hair stand on end.. This whole case needs to be reviewed by the feds.
Omg I’m so glad to see others saying the same I was thinking. These days you’re almost afraid to speak up
@heyItsBillieJo never be afraid. Use your voice. This is an injustice for the victims and the accused in this case.
@@heyItsBillieJo do you think Superintendent Doug Carter’s voice sounds like bridge guy’s voice too?
I live in Indiana and have been hearing about this case since day one. I have to say that I have learned more details from your video than from the news. Seems to me with the judge's behavior, it opened the door to a successful appeal.
An appeal even without the judge was bound to happen. Crime scene mismanagement alone is enough as well as there not being enough enough soild evidence and it being circumstance . Now it’s all three combined. I wouldn’t be surprised if in a Supreme Court hes a free man
As a fellow Hoosier, I have to agree. Those poor babies and their families. The whole thing is a mess.
Nope. Only if you believe everything you read online and are grossly ignorant about how the law actually works.
Hola from Ecuador. I was visiting Ball State University in Muncie when this story broke. There’s not much to do in central Indiana in February, so I was glued to the TV. Wasn’t the FBI called in to help with the investigation? I seem to recall that bit of info. That’s why I am surprised to hear that the investigation was so (allegedly) botched.
@@leaharchambault5796 I know enough to know that if they didn't allow certain evidence or if the appeals court feels like anything the trial judge, or anyone else involved really, did was inappropriate or in any way caused him to not get a fair trial it CAN be overturned, and then they would have to put him back on trial. You can call me ignorant all you want but I know more than you think. Sounds to me like you are speaking from your emotions instead of any actual knowledge.
I'm more suspicious of that judge
You know it's bad when highly experienced criminal defense attorneys are commenting publicly on how a judge is incompetent and quite possibly crooked.
@@dcstiger
Did Allen have any prior convictions ?
@@1badcrow463 None that I can find. There are people out there that have vastly more knowledge of the case and the backgrounds of the key players than I do. Perhaps powerful people had an ax to grind with Allen or maybe everybody got tunnel vision and focused solely on him.
I second that motion
@@dcstigerBaldwin and Rozzi, the defense attorneys, leaked crime scene photos, but it was intentional, and that’s the reason they should have been removed. They say bad things about judge Gull because they don’t have any moral or ethical values.
I truly appreciate you FULLY covering this case! So many others just say he did it, end of. The Odinist theory sounds nuts, but when you dive into it, it really does make sense. There are only 2 things I think are important to mention: 1) Elvis when talked to about the murders asked a police officer "if you find my spit on one of the bodies, but I have a good explanation will I still be in trouble?" 2) Dr. Wala (RAs psychologist in prison) was obsessed with the case. She was in a number of groups dedicated to the murders. Many of which mentioned the possibility of a van! She then would talk to RA about said groups. It was also a unrecorded confession he supposedly told her that mentioned the white van. This is what the prosecution said was the thing only the killer would know!
This case is horribly sad and I truly hope that one day there will be true justice for all involved!
@@maygeep5123 totally agree with you. I am also very suspicious of the bullet they found. I do believe it was found where they said. However, never in my life have I ever heard of an unspent round getting enough identification marks to be able to say what gun it might have been inside of. I'm not expert, however I am getting my criminology degree from one of the countries prestigious universities in forensics. I'm not saying I'm prestigious. But the classes I have to take, not one of them, not one of them have ever mentioned that unspent rounds can be used in this way as a definitive identification of a weapon. It's junk science.
I agree with you! One person couldn’t have done this.
@@PamelaH_HappyVibes I think one YOUNG man could have, but it would have been chaotic. I also don't believe the girls were there all that time. It doesn't make any sense that they went searching for them and didn't find them alive. Just too much of it doesn't make sense for it to have been right there in the woods where they could have easily been seen. It sounds like the person or persons who did this spent a lot of time with the bodies. That would have been noticed, especially if a guy driving a white van could have noticed something from across the creek.
What's really sad is even if Richard Allen were exonerated the damage has been done.
He won't be exonerated before he's guilty
@@CharliCharboneau that's what he meant when he said "it doesn't matter, it's over" 😞 law enforcement claim this was a reference to getting caught, but he/his lawyers clarified that he meant that the damage had been done. such a shame
BIG time. He is a shell of who he once was- and was made to be that way. I just don’t buy it…
He’s guilty dummy he admitted shut up already
@Have you heard of false confessions?!
This case haunts me, from the murders to the investigation, to the court proceedings. Nothing good happened here.
nothing good happened here. did that statement make you feel witty? good lord.
like ole cowboy in a western or grizzly detective, "nothing good happened here"
oh you mean in this double murder video?
@@tedged Are you ok?
@@tedgedwow ! Rude!!
@@tedged
Did Allen have any prior convictions ?
I’m be gained SOOOO much respect for your channel. I’ve followed & have eaten up everything I can about this case. I’ve been so disappoint to see no one cover from all angles. This is a story that has more than two victims.
I first saw the thumbnail and title... I watched all the updates on this trial daily (from lawtubers, considering the public was simply not allowed) was hoping he covered everything...not just okay, here's the guy..he did it.. the end..there's SO much more... I feel awful for both families here.. and it seems the justice system let them both down.
You must be new to the That Chapter crew…
@@chrispankey4640Defo
@@MeganSpruce90yeah he told all thr options but he DID cover everything!! Mike is a fantastic true crime TH-camr! He keeps it light! Enjoy!
P.s this vid has been up for 3 hours. 68k views . Proper OG is our Mike 👍 no bells and whistles, just really great at telling stories . We appreciate it man 👏💚
8k in fifteen minutes... if anyone deserves those kinda numbers its mike, great job as always brother
Thank you!
not to mention everyone in true crime knows about the Snapchat killer so there's people who don't click because they already know the story.
@@Cris_is_wicked i watch everything mike puts out, he has a great detail and is emotionally respectful which makes it worth the watch even if i know of the story.
38,000 views in one hour!
@@4everu98460,000 in two hours!
Ron Logan. The photo of him next to the "BG" Actually made me gasp..
Thank you for covering this. As a resident who lived 45 minutes away, I can't tell you how jarring & heartbreaking this case was for the community & the families.
I'd be terrified to walk outside my home. Those butchers are still out there making human sacrifices. You're not safe!
Lawyer Andrea Burkhart sat through the entire trial, wrote down exactly what happened - every question, answer, objection, judge ruling, side bars etc then live streamed her entire dictation every night. Her videos are the closest we will ever come to knowing what happened behind those closed doors. It's weeks worth of time but well worth the watch if you want the truth of the trial. (esp. since the judge denied access to the court audio tapes, which the public is legally entitled to...wonder why that is?)
I was watching Andrea every day!
So Frank. Guilty??
Yes. I saw her she is pretty good.
I followed her too !
She is literally the most bias youtuber who covered this case
I believe that in any argument, if you have to lie, bend, or hide truth in order to make a point; then you don't truly have a point.
I dont know if he's guilty either but he sure as heck did not get a fair trial!
Yes he did. The judge was very fair to the defense they simply had no actual evidence for their odinism theory.
@@heavensxntseems like they barely had any evidence period.
Richard Allen got a fair trial but after such a flawed and overly secretive police investigation, the judge was wrong to ban all journalists' recording equipment from the court. Unfortunately her lousy call allowed all the crazy conspiracy theorists out there to troll their 'Richard Allen is innocent' shyte to the max!
When you look at the established facts and the crime timeline, he is clearly the murderer. Witnesses saw only one man there that day, the man on Libby's video. Richard Allen IS 'Bridge Guy', he confirmed it when he came forward 2 days after the crime and told authorities he was there at the exact time of the murders, wearing the exact same clothes as the suspect on Libby's video. And Bridge Guy is undoubtedly the killer!
Police released a still image from Libby's video to all TV news stations right after, appealing to him to come forward - Allen saw himself, freaked out, and decided he'd better get ahead of it and pretend he was just a witness, not the killer, before he got the police knock on the door. He knew several women saw him there that day, plus he had a public job serving at a Delphi pharmacy.
But he needn't have worried - despite his early confession, the Keystone Cops wouldn't catch up with him for a staggering FIVE YEARS! The incompetence of Indiana Police under buffoon Supt Doug Carter is incredible. They should be held fully accountable for their multiple, serious mistakes which let Allen the double child killer walk the streets for all that time.
Libby ultimately solved the murder of herself and her friend Abby - without her video of him, Allen never would have come forward, and he would have escaped justice for this horrible, sexually motivated crime.
Who knows how many other females Allen would have killed/sexually assaulted, if he hadn't been identified as Bridge Guy/the murderer? Libby wanted to work in law enforcement when she grew up. She will never grow up, but her incredibly courageous video put her and Abby's killer behind bars, and undoubtedly saved other lives. She was a hero that day, and so was Abby as she almost certainly helped her hide the phone from Allen. God bless those beloved girls, now justice is finally served, may they rest peacefully, held safe in the hearts of all who love them.
@@heavensxnt The right to a fair trial was denied even before he set foot in a court room, when he was moved into prison rather than jail during pre-trial detention. That alone undermines the entire proceedings and will cost the Indiana taxpayer thousands when the case returns on appeal - and is far from the only error the judicial system made, to say nothing of the prosecution or defense.
@@heavensxntWhat? The judge is crooked as hell.
First, great coverage of this case... better than the actual authorities. Must of this I have never heard of. I now have no clue if he is guilty. If the jury would have actually gotten to hear all this, they would definitely have reasonable doubt. I'm not sure if he did it, but I am sure this whole thing was bungled. These poor girls will never truly get justice. Oh, and Delphi is terrifying... good grief.
Appreciate the integrity you bring and maintain within the TH-cam true crime community.
Keep up the brilliant work.
Cheers m8!
What integridah is there in a children's entertainment channel that constantly says the words "turd", "turdy", etc, talking about "turdy trees", and so on. Not a good role model
@@m420-nd1if😂
@@m420-nd1if Great point, I’ve always thought all the poopoo doodoo talk was very immature… if ya can believe that
Been following this case pretty closely over the past month. Mike's summary is great as always. Appreciate the lack of bias in what had been a polarizing case.
He's literally siding with the lying defense attorneys 😭
Oh this case has consumed me and my bf. I live in Indiana and most of us are very upset at the whole entire justice system. All corrupt. Bad rabbit hole 🕳️ if you look at alllll the connections.
Man this is messed up. Firstly, poor girls, secondly, what an utter botched investigation, evidence, ballistics and tunnel-visioned investigators and judges. All these people should be punished for this, it is NOT ON! Thank u Mikey for covering this so well & unbiased way x x x RIP 🕊💞Libby & Abby 💞🕊x x x
In the past week I’ve watched hours and hours of news stories since Richard Allen was found guilty. You have given me more information in less than 45 minutes than all the news stories combined! Great job!!! ❤
I really hope that this conviction is overturned on appeal. There are way too many loose ends in this to pin it all on their scapegoat.
He could be guilty. Calling him a scapegoat is going too far in the opposite direction.
I agree
RA is 100% guilty. If not he might be the unluckiest person ever.
I've followed this case for years! Thanks for following up with this one.
This is beyond appalling >!>
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Hwy is he so excited about tragedy?!And why does he not make videos on the tens of thousands of murdered chil dre n in Ga z A
@@m420-nd1if
Quiet Nazi.
@@m420-nd1ifwhy don’t you make videos of them? You support the causes that affect your life and let people from your own country stop their own conflicts and stop blaming everyone else for your problems.
@@m420-nd1if
Go make your own channel and pay tribute to those children you claim to care about so much. His channel is true crime, not genocide.
I've been following this case for years, and was so pleased when I learnt that the killer had been (finally) caught and brought to justice. that was my thinking at the *start* of this. now. wow. well. WOW. ok. so *A* person has been convicted of this crime. has justice been served? I think not - far too many questions. scary stuff - people _IN_ the system, unanswered questions. thanks for your indepth coverage Mike - so very much appreciated.
It’s amazing to me that nobody close to the killer could ID the killer from the voice, clothing, gait and mannerisms in the clip.
Exactly!!! His movements were distinctive, as well as how he carried himself.
I always thought that too!! Like SOMEONE knows/knew who it was
I think his wife knew but didn't want to admit it to herself.
I take it you’ve never been to central or maybe southern Indiana? Apologies in advance, please understand, I say the following with the least possible amount of intended offense, but the voice clip, clothing, practically a uniform for men around here, and general walk, describes around 65% of the male population here. It was another factor that made this case especially unnerving; all of us were passing by men who looked like the killer, everyday, with no end in sight. At the store, on the street, in the fields, and as cliche as it is, it could have been anyone in town, standing right next to you.
News Nation posted a video long ago of Ron Logan's gf saying it was him.
That's about one of the strongest cases I've seen for the fact that there was just too much reasonable doubt. I cannot honestly say that he was guilty beyond A reasonable doubt. And I don't think anybody could.
You can't know all the evidence and the reasonable doubt the jury considered, because you weren't there.
@@donmoore7785What on earth does not being a member of the jury have to do with stating an opinion, as was asked by Mike? No one but the people in the courtroom can have an opinion? Is that your logic?
honestly and sadly it kinda sounds like they may have the wrong guy...or potentially it was 2 men and the one caught wasnt the actual offender...who knows... RIP to the 2 beautiful souls taken
@@donmoore7785 but the public should have been allowed to hear it
There's doubt, but not reasonable doubt.
Before the Odinism was mentioned I was thinking, “Richard Allan, not guilty beyond reasonable doubt.” Not only because of Richard himself but because of the shanghai tactics of the court case - no proper trial = not guilty. Richard’s defence team was amazing. Do not underestimate the power & evil of a cult, nor that they don’t exist, only naive & gullible people do not believe in the existence of evil cults.
I predict the Indiana court of appeals will overturn this conviction and there will have to be another trail.
Which way does the trail go?
down the hill 😩♥️
I appreciate your channel more than most other true crime channels. Your respect to the victims, the presentation of evidence, and not going off into the crazier conspiracy theories other than occasionally referencing how wild some people get with them make this one of my top 3 channels. Love ya Mike! Keep doing what ya do brother!
This is my fav channel and I've watched all the videos. Unfortunately on this one a lot of the research Mike is presenting is misinformation that has been debunked!
I this the channel ever!
Whether he did it or not becomes ALMOST secondary to how poorly the investigation and the prisoner were handled, and thatsthe problem. Nobody should be treated like that before they're even convicted. Then, the way the judge treated the defense was definitely broken and one-sided. In the end, it makes people call into question the entire process, and it should be a great model for future police and judges on how not to handle a case🤔
HE DESERVES A NEW TRIAL AND THAT JUDGE NEEDS TO BE FIRED. I AM SURE WHEN HE WAS BEING QUESTIONED THE POLICE PROBABLY FED HIM A BUNCH OF THE EVIDENCE
I personally don’t think there was enough evidence to convict. The jury saw stuff that hasn’t been released to the public, so I’m on the fence about the verdict. In the end, I want justice for Abby and Libby
I think I'm literally in the same boat as you
i feel the same way
So what you're really saying is that you don't trust the jury DESPITE the fact that they've seen evidence that you haven't???
I feel the same way to. The investigation was so flawed like the majority of all police departments conducted. This is such a shame because many people are wrongly convicted or take a plea bargain.
Some very strange occurrences with the clothes and sticks along with testimony of others seeing a younger man, just don’t seem to fit a pharmacist or tech. One of the most gut wrenching crimes in the Midwest I remember.
His confession was "it's over, I'm done, I did it" after being kept in solitary confinement for MONTHS and every time he got out of solitary he was beaten half to death by other inmates. His treatment literally breaks the Geneva convention. And the judge refused to allow the jury to hear about his treatment and mental state during his confession. At this point it doesn't even matter if he did it, there is no way to look at this case and believe it's proven beyond a reasonable doubt which means that the conviction needs to be overturned
I appreciate your coverage on this Mike. This was a mess of a trial. I don't know if he did it but i sure as hell know there was plenty of reasonable doubt.
I know he did it because he said he did it I'd never confess to my loved ones about doing something like that and don't bring up the isolation he was always going to be isolated whether it be county jail or prison people who do what he did are not treated well in jail or prison and have to be separated for their safety
@@ITZCHELSEA2244 You would NEVER confess? Not even if I spent 13 months doing all I legally can to make you go batshit insane? How old are you, 12?
@@ITZCHELSEA2244 Elvis, the one who asked the trooper what would happen if his spit was on the girls but he could explain it, confessed to his sisters, who went to police with his confession right after the murders. He's the one who ignored his subpoena and didn't show up during trial.
Solitary confinement is a form of torture. Esp when combined with anti psychotic drugs and an unethical psychologist all up in the state propaganda channels. I suggest you watch the 7 years of deep dive investigations of the true crime researchers and not the corruption complicit corp media.
@@ITZCHELSEA2244 Your argumentation makes no sense, re the isolation. It's not that he was isolated, but for how long. People went nutz during the lock-downs, just for being in their own home, with internet and phones still at hand. Imagine you sit for months in a small room, lights always on, no way to feel comfy just for a second. Always on edge, no one talks to you, maybe only to tell you to get up. Think about THIS, how it would be for YOU. Ignore about who we talk here, idk if he is guilty or not, bad people can go insane, too, in such a situation. Just try to put the confinement into perspective.
@MsSonali1980 they had to in order to keep him alive
Hi Mike. You’ve done an amazing job of this case study. As opposed to the one sided opinions of the general media. Your unbiased reporting is appreciated. 🇨🇦
It's not unbiased though. There's a lot of misinformation and I would encourage you to read transcripts from the trial
She didn't accidentally record it. She knew something was up. So started recording. Brave girls. Rip
Some people can sense Evil.
I truly don't know if Richard Allen is guilty, but from reports, it sure sounds like there's a bucket load of reasonable doubt.. The girls deserve justice and I hope they got it.
What reports?
@mikebond6328 all the reports I can see several in this video alone. You should watch it . Mike brings the facts with lots of reasonable doubt as to RA guilt.
It’s just people saying there’s reasonable doubt, but they can never say what it is that gives the reasonable doubt!!
They did.
The corrupt judge? Kinda hard to call it justice with an emotion led , irrational judge
Wow I didn't know the extent of his pre-trial treatment. That is cruel and unusual. I don't think they achieved justice for those girls and their family.
They didnt
He’s GUILTY.
@@kdizzle901They didn't!
@ginachenney5733 you understand that the bullet found near their bodies has almost certainly been cycled through his gun. The chances of another gun making those exact marks is astronomical. And if you listen to his jailhouse phone call confessions, he was not under duress. He said "I don't know what to tell you, mom. As I sit here talking to you, I did it..." I'm ashamed that Mike would make a POS video like this.
No Danny. Even the state's witness didn't say the bullet 'match' a sure science. In fact, she could not match the unspent round. After not matching, she had to fire the gun 5-6 times to get a fired round that had 'some agreement' to the unspent round found at the scene as per her notes. This whole "science" is on shakey ground and some US states have completely disallowed it as 'evidence'. There is actually no science behind matching an unspent round to a spent round, none.
He was very unwell when he 'confessed'. Both defence and state witnesses testified about his months of severe psychosis and involuntary haldol injections. If he truly confessed, where is the signed statement? How come we still don't know what happened to those girls?
In addition, all witnesses described a different man which does not match Rick's appearance at all. And there is electronic data which also refutes that Rick could be the perpetrator.
Hey Mike, thank you for covering this case. I live in Indiana and travel through Delphi at least once a week. I have followed this case since day 1. I believe there is more to come, more players.
Mike, i am truly happy for your success! You have the right charm and know exactly when to pop a joke while remaining respectful for the victims. I wish you continued success!
How many drinks have you had?buzz of turke
Weber, yeah the same Weber as the white van guy.. yeah, his gun “couldn’t be excluded” as a match for the unspent cartridge.
Mike is the GOAT for this type of content! Well earned and well done.
This case is total mess and you presented it as such. Thank you Mike! I believe I have watched 100% of your videos!
This judge needs to be looked into. Sounds like a retrial could be granted based upon her rulings.
I'd be voting against retention of that judge every time her name came up on the ballot.
@brianzfandom2151 You didn't watch the video, he literally said stuff to the police that only the killer would know. Complete guilt.
@@fireicemetal No he did not. The cops said he did at the start of August 2024. But he didn't. He said 'van'. The cops didn't even know there was a van, because, actually, there was no van there at that time. BW said in his initial interview and for years and year that he got home at 3:30.
And. Even if BW got home with his van at 2:30 - that leaves 2 mins to get the girls across the creek, up the bank, AW redressed in LG's clothes. I'm not buying it for one second.
Nope.
@@Beyatchenator nope nope and nope.
I was apprehensive about watching this one, considering I've seen so many videos about this case, and how they eventually caught Richard Allan. You took on a completely different approach to this case, which makes me reconsider everything I've watched. The girls were so young, and just enjoying a day out exploring. It's sad. Great video Mike--as always.
You have the patience of a saint to go through cases like this. This case made my brain hurt. Thank you for what you do. You are the best. ❤
Guilty or not, everyone deserves a fair trial. It does not appear to me that this man received a fair trial.
Curious how you feel about fair trials where the obvious offender murd3r3r pdfile did the crime but they were allowed to walk free?
Same as Bryan Kohlberger… they’re pinning those crimes on him.
@@yadiraesparza5983 that psychopath is guilty af and he's playing you and that court like a fiddle
You probably think Scott Peterson is innocent too huh? The judge was completely fair to the defense. She just didn’t let in theories that had zero evidence to back it up like odinism. There has literally never been an odinist human sacrifice and white supremecists aren’t out here killing little white girls.
The judge actually ruled more in favor of the defense on motions
Mike has covered this better and more extensively than any other TH-camr and news outlet combined. This was so detailed and easy to follow. I loved how he outlined the prosecutors side and then went into detail about all the other evidence. Was actually so so good. I’ve obsessively followed this case for years and haven’t seen anyone lay it all out this well. So impressed! Mike’s still got it after all this time! I actually finally understand this case
Watching for the 3rd time this morning now
Agreed!!! I’ve followed closely and all the usuals covering it. Mike nailed it!
It's hard to believe that there are US prisons where people are kept in those barbaric conditions - especially before trial. I wish Libby's and Abby's families healing and peace.
I tend to agree but also, those prisoners are the worst of the worst.
The crimes they're guilty of were inhumane, they are where they're supposed to be. It's hard to defend their treatment, especially when it involves children.
@@cdes1776 But he wasn't even convicted yet. What about innocent until proven guilty?! For me he looks like someone who was broken. Probably they put him there on purpose, especially knowing his medical conditions beforehand.
@XD-gm1gr Yes. What you said 👍
@@alisong2328 yes and the only exception in RA case was that he was held in a prison, not a jail pretrial. Many high profile inmates in jail will end up in segregation... put his charges to that even harder and then his self doing something wish made it almost impossible to keep him safe without isolating him... but that happens to many inmates in jail and prison in the US... so RA wasn't really treated different than others except prison/jail pretrial
@@XD-gm1gr I agree with you. Why would they put him in solitude unless they wanted a confession??
Definitely reasonable doubt.
First thing I thought. No DNA or Evidence at all placing him at the scene. The man suffers from mental illness so they locked in knowing he was a weak link. He’s psychotic now so he’ll never be the same if his case is overturned. Very disturbing.
Nope, not an atom of reasonable doubt. Richard Allen came forward to authorities on 15th February 2017, 2 days after the killings, and said he was there at the Delphi trails on the date and time of the crime, wearing the exact same clothes as Bridge Guy - ie the killer Libby filmed.
He effectively identified himself as Bridge Guy because a still image of him from that video was splashed across every TV news station, and he was scared he would be identified by someone else. Not only did he know several witnesses saw him there that day, he had a job working with the public at a local Delphi pharmacy. Only one man was seen there that day - Bridge Guy, Richard Allen.
Allen was freaked out, and decided he'd better get ahead of the police by claiming he was there as an innocent witness, not the killer. But he needn't have worried - the Keystone Cops wouldn't call him in for interview for another FIVE YEARS! Their mistakes in the case were huge and frequent.
In custody, Allen confessed to murdering Libby and Abby 61 times. These were not confessions made under pressure during police interrogations, or given under any kind of duress/police intimidation. He freely confessed, including to his wife and mother on prison phone calls and face to face. He wanted to unburden himself of his guilt, and hoped his family would accept what he was telling them, and show him unconditional love and support.
Instead his wife and mom clamped their hands over their ears, shut him down and refused to believe him. How many times does someone have to confess to you, before you believe them?! He even shared details only the killer knew, like the box cutter tool he used to slash the girls' throats, and the white van that drove past as he was abducting them (police tracked down that van driver - he made that exact same journey, on that road, at that time, every weekday, as a delivery man).
There's a ton more evidence including the bullet found between the girls' bodies that came from Allen's gun. The jury got it right, and a dangerous child killer and sex predator is thankfully where he belongs, and will die. But he should have been identified and charged within 1 week of the crime, when he walked into that 'tip line' office and reported he was there that day. It's insane police failed to follow up - as I say, there was only one man seen there that day, it was Bridge Guy/Richard Allen. Thanks to police mistakes, the conspiracy theorists will continue to have fun and hysterically claim he's an innocent man. He isn't - he did it. And it was Libby's courageous video that flushed him out - without that image of him plastered across TV screens, Allen never would have come forward, and would be a free man to this day. Libby wanted to work in law enforcement one day. What an asset she would have been - at just 14 years old, her video solved her and Abby's murders. She was a hero that day, as was Abby who helped hide the phone from Allen.
@@glamdolly30very well said. I agree. He's 100 % guilty
Yep. The defense doesn't have to prove he's innocent. He clearly did not get a fair trial, was treated abominably, and there is PLENNY reasonable doubt.
@@glamdolly30 Can you explain one thing please, why did the prosecutor never, ever ask any of the witnesses if they identify RA as the bridge guy?
I was following this case on Twitter for a few years and lost track of it. I remember a lot of people were saying this was a frame up and the arguments for and against would get quite heated. Good to see this back under your spot-light, Mike.
You were so thorough on this one, Mike 👍🏼
No, he wasn't.
@@dannythompson1948 was there something in particular that he missed?
how can someone not have reasonable doubt in this case?
Ikr!!! 😳🤦🏽♀️
exactly. Such a corrupt case since the beginning
It’s the constant confessions. You could say solitary broke him down or the weight of guilt finally drove him to telling
Bc the information in the video isn’t correct, and literally everything used to point to RA being innocent is laughable. Ppl just won’t accept that and bc of that information isn’t correct. Like it couldn’t have been him who said down the hill, it is in fact not true. She put the phone in her pocket as he came upon them. They continue talking, they say high to him as he gets close to them, they see he has a gun bc “is that a gun” is heard. Then he orders them down the hill. That chapter isn’t bad and I’m positive he’s getting bs information he believes to be true, but it isn’t.
How can anyone deny 61 confessions?
Plenty of fodder for appeals, it seems like. Thanks, Mr. Mike!
Currently living a bit outside of Delphi, and I'm so glad to finally see things being addressed in court. The woo-woo hullabaloo around Allen has been so frustrating to listen to the last two years. Abby and Libby deserved the world, and since their loss, their families deserve peace.
'woo-woo hullabaloo' .. you mean due diligence? Idiot.
Your own county did this bullshit.
Have you seen that guy Perez police get him to confess to his father's murder after he reported him missing, police were convinced I was him. Threatening to kill his dog got his friend to help convince him and confess. The father actually just wanted to get away showed up a week later. Police still screwed with him after finding out too...
I'm not convinced it was Allen. Police know alot more, corruption is rife....
At the endnof the day if ots not Allen the real ¥iller is still around the family unsuspecting children etc you even.
The family is not getting justice if Allen is innocent; the case was bungled so badly, and Allen’s mental state so badly damaged that it is not clear he did it.
Thank you for giving both perspectives on this case! It seems like every news outlet is treating this like huzzah we got him! But I still feel weird about this and that justice was not served for Abby and Libby. I feel like it was a younger guy. Put anyone in solitary confinement for months and give them evidence photos and they will be so sick in the head at that point they will say anything. So torn about this case
Thanks for doing this case Mike. I live in illinois and think of Abby and Libby often. Poor girls. More information presented here than the news. This whole case is a mess. Keep up the great work, friend. ❤
I thought the US was the model for upholding individual freedoms. To be able to imprison someone in solitary confinement for 13 months without proof of guilt. Yikes!
The only "Freedom" we have is to be corrupt. It's all about looking good at catching the "bad guy" even if it's not the person who committed the crime. Ugh I'm sorry but I am very disappointed and demoralized atm.
Guilty until proven innocent, extortionate bail conditions, US has the worst, most unjust, most corrupt legal system, slave trade in plain sight, corporate greed, disgusting
In practice freedom is more of a catch phrase or patriotic fashion statement here.
Wow, where did you get that idea. We have a Bill of Rights that has been so destroyed during first the War on Drugs and the War on Terror and just the basic war on poor people, particularly poor people of color, that the first, fourth, and fifth amendments might as well be toilet paper.
I believe you mean rights, not "freedoms".
Thank you for covering this case so thoroughly! I'd heard bits and pieces and it was good to hear everything. Sounds like he deserves another, and fair, trial. We love you too!
So glad to see you covering this case, I've been following it for years.
There are WAY too many questions to definitively say this guy is the killer. The police screwed this from the get-go.
There isn't too many questions. The only real discrepancies are eye witness testimony. Eye witness testimony is notoriously the least reliable evidence in court, because memory itself is notoriously unreliable. Everything else, except for some small details caused by lazy investigators, points right to Richard Allen. He confessed 60 times. You can say "Oh he's clearly insane" based on his behavior, but I'm willing to bet he hasn't eaten any court documents or a single turd since the verdict was reached.
On purpose 😡⏳
The dude clearly was smaller than the guy in the video. The cops locked up an innocent man imo.
@@Spam-pq2sg No, they didn't. All evidence points to him, he confessed 61 times.
@@MatsThyWit Thank you! Got tired of the Odinist nonsense. The man was there. Had the clothing. Looks and sounds like Bridge Guy. Owned the weapon/ammunition. Admitted it and gave a coherent, accurate account of the events (something that someone who was in psychosis wouldn't be able to do). No evidence of Odinism (red herring by the defense) and people are upset that the judge wouldn't allow the defense to come up with some convoluted false accusation of a vast Odinist conspiracy. Occam's Razor.
Hi Mike…I just love you dude! Been watching you for a long time now and I can see that even YOU think this case is janky as hell!!! To think that there are people out there who believe that the girls got their justice now baffles me!!! This is not justice!! Putting an innocent man in prison from a case that has a hell of a lot of holes and so much Reasonable doubt, is not, Justice!!!!
See the shoddy wrongful arrest of Karen Read & the absolute corruption of Massachusetts Police, DA & Judge. It's very common for Police & the courts to convict innocent people after doing a shoddy investigation.
Mikey! Always found this to be incredibly chilling because of the footage of the man stalking them. Absolutely terrifying.
A case worth covering would be Harv The Hammer, kind of a precursor to the Craigslist killers we've seen. He used want ads.
Every girls’ worst nightmare!😢
@@Sh3r-Bearfor real 😢 what these girls went through is what I always fear will happen if I go out alone.
What a confusing case! And I didn't know a judge could set so many discriminating rules either...
Had no idea there were so many doubts. Really looks like a retrial
These poor girls. So horrible. The one thing I'm grateful for is their situational awareness, they basically solved their own murders with a cell phone. Rest in Peace Abby & Libby 💔
And yet there are so many more questions than answers with that video.
@@WickedWest512 I have no questions. He confessed 60 times.
I’m confused is there any doubt that the guy in the video is the killer?
@@ABTHEYAPPERHe was VERY mentally I’ll when he made the “confessions.” There is absolutely no other evidence that he was there or did the crime. I am not convinced at all that he did it. If anything, his conviction was a travesty of justice.
@ABTHEYAPPER you don't have much sense either if you think a crazy person's confession means anything
went from 'this guy obviously did it' to 'there's no way in hell this guy did it'. your videos always have me on my toes!
I watched this on a 48 hour special about a month ago, and was happy to hear they had caught whoever it was.. but after hearing this I’m just shocked! None of these factors were listed. It’s truly crazy how bad the police botched this investigation
I’m absolutely not convinced Richard Allen did that. Was there any evidence of the crime scene found at his home? I watched many many hours of podcasts surrounding this case and many seemed convinced Richard is the guy but none seemed to respect the role the defense plays in our court system. And while I could see the appetite for wanting justice served, we need to be 100 % certain and it definitely seems like the jury had its doubts
He literally had seven years to get rid of evidence 😓 there’s reporting that he was burning shit in his backyard after the murders. He admitted to being on the bridge at the same time and in the same outfit and seeing the same witnesses as bridge guy. It’s not that hard to fit the pieces together.
@@heavensxntthe phone data and timeline just doesn't work.
OK seven years for his house to clean-?fine….how long was he able to magically get rid of his DNA hair blood sweat out of the crime scene there’s not there wasn’t a stitch a fiber so this guy is the world‘s most perfect killer. He took their clothes off. put the clothes of the wrong girl on the other girl, not a single piece of evidence but this very strange very not forensic bullet give me a break and you mean to tell me that Tattoo and that weird Oden stuff doesn’t give you pause and how a few of these people were murdered FBI was thrown out of the case does a huge profile case for the FBI wants to help since when is a little Podunk town through the FBI out?!???
@@heavensxnthe said he killed his wife and daughter, but they are still alive. He also said he killed his grandchild which he doesn't even have one.
@@heavensxnt I'm not saying he isn't the guy - what I'm saying is it seems a little strange that there's no DNA evidence, and that convicting him solely on witness testimony and due to his confessions seems a bit iffy.
We should all want the same thing - like what if he isn't the guy and the real killer is out there?
Regarding evidence at the house - I don't think you realize how hard it is to get rid of evidence.
This is a terrible miscarriage of justice. The police botched the investigation, the judge is an a-hole, and the suspect was basically tortured and made false confessions during psychotic episodes. It's outrageous.
@@fulanichild3138
He seems to have been
Railroaded ..
Circumstantial bull shit
His first confession was not made to the police…he was not under duress. He was not notably “psychotic” yet. That didn’t happen until his lawyer got wind of his big mouth. He’s a disturbed man who changed his mind about confessing. He was NOT in solitary confinement. He had visitors daily. He had the opportunity to talk to his psychiatrist DAILY. That is not how solitary works.
lol he’s definitely guilty
@@1badcrow463 Circumstantial evidence is just as valid and weighed the same as forensic evidence. Sufficient circumstantial evidence alone convicts. Educate yourself.
@donmoore7785. If you are referring to DNA as "forensic evidence" which is not a legal term, your wrong. In fact DNA evidence is circumstantial evidence, educate yourself
I'm glad you're covering the updates, people wanted this case solved so bad they just heard there was finally possible justice they don't bother to look into it.
It's sad that either Richard is innocent, and the real person will get away, or he is and officials have completely screwed up the case regardless so will never really know.
Three minutes since release is definitely my fastest watch. Being a Brit in Australia but I have to get my ThatChapter Mike fix!!! 🎉
I’m not convinced
Making a Murderer 2.0
Poor girls and their families thinking they've put the right predator away.
This man has suffered enough. Tell me how we work together to get him out and look for the actual suspect.
Thanks Mike for the update. Love your channel. This is the only crime channel I watch and do have nightmares. No one can do what you do. Excellent work 👏
Thanks for the update on this case Mike. ♥ I think it is a pity that the judge placed so many restrictions on the defense. Everyone deserves a fair trial and that should include the same rights and conditions that any other defendant had. It leaves some doubt about the verdict.
It really doesn’t
@ stop commenting
@@leaharchambault5796it really does get over it
@@jaealxndr Everyone has the right to comment, as long as not obscene or abusive?
@@chris-in-oceania she’s spamming. She’s rude in the other ones. Lol
(Haven’t finished yet). This case has always stuck with me deeper than others. I was almost sure he did it when he and his wife started acting really strange after his arrest. I don’t typically believe every “confession,” there are so many litigating circumstances in interrogation rooms. The jury saw more than we did, but it doesn’t seem like he got a fair trial. It seemed all very biased and one sided. It’s happened before where they just “need” a conviction. This still feels unresolved to me, I’m on the fence. To me, this seems more ritualistic and that it wasn’t his first time if it was him. I’ve always just wanted Libby and Abby deserve true justice. 💜
Well said, Mikey! Delphi it was no comparison to the oracle. What a monster caught on camera!!! ❤❤❤
If all evidence was allowed then there would be reasonable doubt
Exactly. That's why the judge didn't allow so much. I couldn't convict beyond a reasonable doubt.
God forbid that, huh?
There was plenty reasonable Doubt after the state rested. LITERALLY they couldn't prove nothing with there lack of evidence that they showed . Didn't prove who BG was. DIDNT Prove BG even committed the murders, if RA was BG then how did he stay working at CVS and none of the witness who seen BG never seen BG working at CVS . I dont think they even found a bullet becuase it was mentioned in. RON LOGANS affidavit when they did search of his property...
This case baffles me. I watched Hidden True Crimes daily coverage of the trial (Lauren was in the courtroom). I’m still not 100% convinced and think there are good points on both sides. I was surprised the jury was able to agree on a verdict. RIP Libby and Abby ❤.
He doesn’t fit the buld of bridge guy
Lauren is awful.
Hidden True Crime sold her soul over this trial, disguising
Lauren is great, but she AND John got a bunch of details wrong on this one and missed a lot of what others in the courtroom caught. I actually lost a lot of respect for Dr. John over his coverage of this case because he leapt to conclusions based on bad facts and at one point entirely made up a story about RA having a domestic abuse past when in reality, his wife called the police not because of DV but because he was suicidal and needed to go to the hospital. At another point Dr. John stated that the same thing that caused him to park his care suspiciously by the CPS building is what led him to kill the girls…um… it is well established that the “suspiciously parked car” (what the hell does that even mean?!?) could NOT have been RA’s car because it was parked there the whole day and they have his car arriving or leaving at 1:30pm. It was there before and after that time.
Also, the car didn’t match the description of RA’s car.
Great job Mike. SO many people have gotten so many facts wrong about this case. The rumor and gossip mill has been in overdrive on this one. This video should be required viewing for those wanting to know the true facts in this case. I do think you maybe slightly over-emphasized some of the theories that the kooks out there have spread around, but it's still factual. good video!
If I was a juror, (and I have been on jury duty from time to time) I would not have enough evidence (since there doesn't seem to be any) to convict this guy. The judge alone would have pissed me off so bad that I would not have been able to listen to anything prudent about the prosecution's case. Horrible story on both sides.
There is still a gag order on exactly what evidence was provided during the trial.
Considering you weren’t a juror and aren’t privy to the actual evidence maybe sit this one out.
@heavensxnt Mike asked his audience what they thought of this case. He didn't ask everyone to berate those who decided to weigh in. Try and remember that next time!
@ last time I checked I can comment on whatever video or comment I want. I am subscribed to this channel and even if I weren’t I have every right to comment whatever I want.
@heavensxnt when was the last time you checked ✔️?
Mike, I adore how all of your content starts with “in this old video”. 😂🤣
Can't forget the famous Wink!!
Aul, even
thank you so much for this one! I've been waiting for a good explanation of this case and can't believe all this! ty!
The hospital phone thing interfering with medical equipment is BS. I work in a very large hospital and everyone carries I Phones to get calls, emergency and other calls!
This myth still is in ppls heads from back in the time where cell phones disturbed the radio equipment communication. In germany we had the rule that no phones were allowed in hospital but it was in the early stages of cell phones. I remember it and the myth is still in older ppls heads
I was just at the hospital last week visiting my mom and there was a sign asking to please turn off cell phone.. I didn't but there was a sign about it. 🤷
iPhones*
Not because you didn't witness malfunction that it cannot happen. I think you should go back to school and study more in the the electro magnetic field before making such a moron statement cause you obviously have no freaking Idea What you are talking about
I even found it odd they refused the trial to even be broadcast. There something afoot in Delphi. They say all that’s in the dark comes to light and with things coming out about Hollyweird let’s hope that continues here too.
I grew up out in the middle of nowhere similar to this, and me and a friend would spend all day just walking around forests and back roads just like this. Had a few close calls with creeps, usually lone men either following us in their trucks or trying to call out to us to come over. Thankfully me and my friend were both flighty and would just book it away immediately together. These poor girls were not so lucky, and I seriously hope that their killer hasn't slept a wink since.
Exactly!! Or they would be beating off or exposing themselves. Things have not changed since the 60s.
I though at first, better to run, but they were threatened by a gun.
I live here.
YOU ARE NAILING IT!!!
THE TRUTH IS GETTING OUT
He literally presented the case for both (opposing) arguments.
The truth is that Richard Allen did it as he said he did
@@ITZCHELSEA2244 I don’t think he did. There’s no dna evidence he did it but there was dna of an unknown male found on them
@@ITZCHELSEA2244 But he also said he killed his wife and daughter and granddaughter. His wife and daughter are alive and well. He's never had a grandchild.
@@fulanichild3138 Yeah & he's also been playing the crazy card since basically day one. What a better way to show ur just making things up than to say u killed ur still alive family?! Or confess & then immediately start singing the star spangled banner & wacking off?! Dude does crap that he thinks someone who's nuts would do. It just seems incredibly obvious to me that he's faking crazy to get out of it one way or another. There's a reason he was STILL found competent for trial! Anyone who's really that far gone wouldn't be found competent to proceed... but he's faking.And it's not the judge who decides that so people can't make that excuse either!
This has been covered multiple times by lots of similar channels and it never ceases to induce both sadness and anger.
As a Hoosier, I am so happy you're covering this case! It deserves coverage. Let's give er a go!
This case hits to close to home for me. We're not far from Delphi. Have been watching this case from the moment the girls went missing. Thanks Mike! ❤️💚🧡💛
Let me know your thoughts!
2019 -- a moment of That Chapter glasses nostalgia.
Massive reasonable doubt with this case imo 🤷🏼♀️
The case was screwed!
He was coerced into confessing by making him crazy and giving him all the case notes!
The police was narrow minded and the judge was even worse!
If he doesn’t get his conviction overturned because of her I’ll be surprised.
He could well be guilty but there’s doubt for me..
I hope this taught more parents to not let there children go/play in woods/trails like this… it’s not safe!
I hope Abby and Libby get justice