BG3: Don't like a character in your party? Do any of the following: 1- Don't agree with what they say 2- Don't have them in your party 3- Don't have them in your camp 4- Don't let them live DA Veilgard: Don't like a character in your party? Do any of the following: 1- Don't play the game 2- Refund the game 3- Don't buy the game in the first place 4- Pretend the game doesn't exist
I they just give opinions that you can go woke or not in a game, but they find out that most people then don’t go woke and we can’t have that the message is the most important not making a good game people like
It's yesterday's kids trying to make it big on the internet and they won't stop at anything if it means a company coming along and paying them to review their title.
Back in 2012 we were offered to come listen to a guest speaker for the journalism class because they had heaps of spare seats and most of us went because we had nothing better to do. This lady told us straight up that if any of us ever wanted to be a journalist that we should try and get into independent and/or investigative journalism because the majority of journalism is just a soulless propaganda machine and working in it 'will make you hate yourself' her exact words. That was over a decade ago in Australia and she spoke at length about how corrupt our news sources here are and how she experienced the same going to the UK and Canada. Its so much worse now and its across the entire world.
Never before have we seen so many developers just telling their costumer "we dont want your money, we hate you!" The modern videogame industry since 2018 has been a mess, new devs and executive are egocentric dumbasses, putting identity and ideology first before Fun and Experience in their Products
"TH-camrs aren't bound by journalistic integrity" Is he forgetting the first gamergate was started because a journo was sleeping with a dev while giving positive coverage of her objectively terrible game without declaring a conflict of interests?
yes... that was a journalist violating his journalistic code of ethics not a youtuber who as asmon said don't have a journalistic code of ethics and thus arent bound by it.
"Let's imagine a world without video game outlets. No IGN, no Kotaku, no Polygon" Don't threaten people with a good time. That is a dream scenario for many people, not a dystopia.
Such a twisted concept to say people's criticism isn't valid if they don't address every aspect of a product. If you review a restaurant and the food tastes like shit, that's where the review can end. There's no need to speak about the comfortable chairs or the nice cutlery.
Game studio employees are just using their companies as a platform for being toxic...to what they believe is a captive audience, their customers. Studios obviously haven't caught on yet, blinded by sympathy.
With user reviews we get the benefit of the wisdom of the crowd. We also end up with a meritocracy where consistent user reviewers end up with followings and eventually a platform.
Yeah, except in this analogy it isn't just that the food tastes like shit. The food tastes like shit _and_ is undercooked, it has the least comfortable chairs you've ever seen, the whole restaurant feels like a clinic and smells like industrial sanitizer, the whole time you're at the table you have someone from PR looking over one shoulder and someone from HR looking over the other (even though *you* don't even work there), and when the chef delivers you your food xe spits in your face and knocks over your water into your lap.
It's amazing that Devs, Publishers, and Writers haven't made a mistake in like 10 years, everything has been totally perfect and the only problem is the audience being bad.
Yeah man, can't believe i haven't been buying every 30-70 dollar game that came out in the last decade. The amount of shame I feel for daring to carefully pick what games I spend my money on
Baldur's Gate 3 is that one friend that keeps making indian food and shares it with you, and you're surprised to find out he's vegan. Dragon Age Veilguard is that one vegan friend that won't shut up about being vegan, and then lectures and shames you for liking bacon.
Sometimes I wonder why I am even friends with them to start with and just walk away. I know this sounds bad and looks like I am not a good friend, but I don't want to be judged 24/7. Sorry, but farewell.
This reminds me of the classic example of a failed restaurants on hells kitchen 😂 The chef is convinced that his food is good but all the customers are saying his food is terrible. No one comes to buy food and the chef is completely clueless and is sure its not his cooking that is bad but all the customers being bad, and now the restaurant is indebt. I've seen it a basillion times on hells kitchen with Gordon Ramsay. It's hillarious how you can like say its exactly the same with Bioware LMAO 🤣 "What are you?" "An idiot sandwich sir" 🤣
@@PolarBearZoo1 Yep, Alice Asylum, the creator even proposed buying the rights/license from EA to make it and they still said no, if i remember correctly
@@PolarBearZoo1 there was, McGee handed sketches to EA in order to get an approval and funding, buuuut “On the question of funding, they have ultimately decided to pass on the project based on an internal analysis of the IP, market conditions, and details of the production proposal. On the question of licensing, they replied that Alice is an important part of EA’s overall game catalog, and selling or licensing it isn’t something they’re prepared to do right now.” So yeah, Alice is a bit dead rn since the rights are in EA's hands, and they don't like giving up on them
@@PolarBearZoo1there was. The creator did all he could together with an eager community to make it easy for EA to give it the GO. They did not, and thus American Mcgee vowed to leave game making forever.
@@ferret7183 I think video games is one realm of a hobby that won't take kindly to these people. It's just so massive to something like Warhammer or NBA that there can't possibly be enough woke people in it to outnumber the normal people
@@finkamain1621 They've been trying to take over the gaming industry for at least a decade now, and gamers have never taken very kindly to them. These people are ALWAYS outnumbered by the normal people in any hobby/industry they invade. That's why their strategy is always to go for positions of authority or power (of which there are significantly less than there are people in the hobby/industry as a whole) so that they can then dictate how everything is run. The problem in gaming is that Indie games exist. They've basically taken all the positions of power and authority in gaming at this point, but because gaming is largely decentralized we can just choose not to play their garbage propaganda and choose instead to play Indie games that don't feed into their narrative.
The main problem with Journalism is that it's clearly at odds with what i can clearly see for myself: I get told that Single Player games are dead every other year, but they consistently show up at Game of the Years awards as GOTY contender I get told that games today are far more inclusive and tackle much harder themes than the past, but they still cannot even touch the level of Final Fantasy 10's Story or Characters in 2001 I get told that games are far bigger than they ever been, but they cannot even approach the freedom that Planescape: Torment gave me back in 1999
Yep, whenever someone tries to falsify reality in order to support their views, it calls everything they say and do into question. This applies to a lot of things actually.
@@christianalanwilson434lol yet they just don’t get that doesnt work. They keep telling us to ignore our eyes and ears and just believe what we are told
The one nuance here is that we do have some journalists making articles countering some of the things you mentioned especially the one about single-player games being dead, I read an article breaking it down and the guy made some interesting cases with the data about how well single-player games are doing and how he thought it will be in the future as well. Its just that the annoying articles get blown up to the top of the search results always.
Bg3 is that newly re-opened steakhouse that was once famous decades ago but was closed down. At first you enter with skeptism, but it quickly goes away after seeing how the new manager (Larian) not only fulfill your order but come with extra free appetizers and desserts as a thank you. It's so good that you bring your vegan friend on the next visit. Again, the manager surprises you with their vegan special that cater perfectly for that vegan friend, so you both can enjoy the meals together. As for DA Veilguard, it is the McDonald everyone has heard of. You are tired after a long day of work and just want to eat a juicy burger, so you go in and order one. You take a bite. Foul taste fills your mouth as you spew out. Surprise mf! It's a vegan burger, with soy sauce on top! You find the newly appointed bluehaired manager and demand your fat juicy burger or else you'll want a refund. Instead of receiving an apology, you got a lecture about the health benefit of their new vegan burger and that they are done making their classic burger. Upset, you go home and write a bad review toward this famous food chain. Then, you saw a bunch of articles praising the new changes, saying it's the best thing ever, and anyone not agreeing are fascists.
Modern Age Is Indeed Sad; Maybe the planet should be swallowed by a Dark whole; and we get isekaid into a new world with magic, and furriers., demi humans, cat wolf, dog reptile snake, and every single type of race in fantasy, elves and dragons dwarves etc, and all we do as a living, is enter a dungeons and destroy robotically beast and animals, or wild rabid monsters for loot and make a living, in the middle of a magical lake, where animals have goofy glow effect also plants. Life could be so much better, instead of just politics, and money
27:06 The fact this "journalist" thought Dragon Age would be played by over 10 million players just goes to show they are absolutely out of touch with games. And they think they are the ones who know all..... hilarious
It's because they think it's 2010 still and haven't realized their job is redundant, pointless, and outdated. Access media is a plague on the truth, and it's inauthentic.
@@vampire847 That's because it bears no resemblance to liberalism. It's gone so far beyond the pale that it's mutated into something more resembling stalinism.
First they say "lets make this woke game super successful! Own the chuds!" Then the game gets released and surprise surprise, its boring, lacks innovation, the characters are insufferable and have bad designs, the story is full of self inserts from weak minded people, the game tries to take every cent from you it can with ridiculous monetization schemes, and tries to force some weird doctrine that a small % of people actually have and disguises it as a superior moral code. Then the game flops and loses the studio hundreds of millions of $$$$ and sometimes gets it shut down. All I gotta say to them is "LOSERS LOSE"
These "journalists" fail so hard on realizing that games that aren't about romantic relationships don't need gender/pronouns and LGBT relationships. We want myths/legends and fantasy. Not half thought out dialogue that virtue signals for no meaningful reason.
_The funny thing is, by taking a quick peek at the games the furry community plays, you will notice that the most popular LGHDTV+ stuff crosses over with stuff the furries like._ _The mainly popular ones are visual novels or RPGs and the main genre is romance or drama._ _That's what they like. But these journalists fail to do even basic market research to identify what specific topics certain demographics relate to._
- Cartoonishly bad project managers inflate budgets to hundreds of millions of dollars and extend development times into 10 years or more. - Cartoonishly greedy execs cut QA departments to "reduce expenses" while mandating 100 hours a week crunch time. - Same cartoonishly greedy execs actually think the game will move the 20M+ copies it needs to just break even day one.
There's a problem with ethics in our media and government as well its just a thing, I mean even getting Repubs in office (only some not all of them) instead of getting to work are skipping some of the basic requirements of our country regarding ethics and background run-downs. Its disappointing.
46:05 You viewpoint is the default one because it's the most agreed upon by the majority of gamers. We don't simply agree with you as a result of watching your channel. We watch your channel, because we agree with you.
same in germany with "game two" well known gamer journalists here i swear they made a reel where they told us literarlly that the fanbase and viewership are trolls and not experts so therefore we need to shut up. Never gonna watch it again in my life.
Die haben kurz drauf massiv an abos und Zuschauer verloren. Ist aber eigentlich egal, die sind eh nicht mehr relevant. Hätten halt nicht schlechte Moderatoren holen sollen und dann noch Leute die definitiv gar keinen Plan von gaming haben.... Ist halt einfach schlecht
@@flashmasterp.2685weist du zufällig genau welches Video das war? Hab anfangs noch sehr gerne Game Two geschaut, es gab einige tolle Beiträge aber mit den ganzen neuen Nasen kann ich nicht wirklich viel anfang…
"People don't care about diversity in games if the quality is high enough" they're so close to seeing it's actually about quality. They're just not quite getting it
It's like how Overwatch is or at least used to be. It used to be quite diverse in a normal way, it wasn't advertised as a diverse game, it just was and people didn't care because they enjoyed the game.
If it's high enough sure but the woke shit is still a negative for 90+% of players. It's not a neutral and definitely not a positive. It's like getting a professional chef to cook you a meal and then saying that if the quality is good enough you won't care about the dog shit they added to the meal. Maybe true but what sort of worthless statement is that.
Audience leaves positive reviews: This game is a success! We love the fans! Audience leaves negative reviews: The fans are bigots! This is review-bombing!
Nathan Greyson was one of the 'journalists' that was caught with his fingers in Zoe Quinn's pie at the beginning of the original Gamer Gate controversy. He denied that having a sexual relationship with a game developer might bias his opinion of the product that she was making and attacked the people that pointed it out. Crazy, right?!
GG still pisses me off, because it was initially about journalist integrity in the gaming space, and morons who supported Zoe Quinn spun it into gamers vs women....
As a female gamer who is also gay, I hate identity politics being shoehorned into games. I think the representation of the LGBT+ community in Dragon Age The veilguard is awful and is doing more harm than good. Good representation or no representation is better than what Dragon Age The Veilguard's representation.
I feel like I see this sentiment a lot, it's crazy! It seems like the actual minorities don't really care, and it's just virtue signaling. I don't understand how they keep ignoring that.
Guys always wanted girls to join them. I went out a few days ago, I know, I know actually outside the house haha. I met two women, young mothers and we talked about kids who lose their pacifiers late in life. My experience was one in the family at 7. I of course said be careful about being too generous or empathic or you will have an 18 year old who won't turn off their PlayStation and still be sucking a dummy. Both of them in unison said 'I will never let my child play video-games'. That's not men preventing women from entering the market or space. This is not a rant directed at you but it just shows how disingenuous the media is on the topic of inclusion. Game of Throne was awesome for their inclusion of many peoples sexualities where we had a potential king on his way to power who was gay but it wasn't his entire life story just a part of who he is. That's what we want. Equinox in warframe is another good addition for this. Inclusion without intrusion.
finally, I also know a lesbian who said openly she hates this LGBT element in games and hates parades and never goes to any with her wife ! Those are the cool people in the LGBT community who know how it really is And not liking the propagation of a group does not mean one is against it or wishes to harm it. On the contrary, I got no problem with LGBT people in general I have a problem with DEI however.
Nathan Grayson, the guy who was boning the devs of games he was reviewing in his supposedly superior publication without disclosing it, btw. Still employed. Clown. Never forget, lol. Absolute zero ethics.
@MrShadowtruth that rabbithole is deep but technically he never reviewed her game. He did give it favorable coverage though in an article without disclosing that they was fuckin'. People noticed, asked for an apology, and got called sexists for noticing instead. Very brief description of the start of Gamergate.
Forspoken's dialogues. Concord's graphics. Dustborn's preachings. Anthem's gaslighting. Suicide Squad's disrespect for the source material. By your powers combined... 😂😂😂😂
Imagine your corporate overlord tells you that the next project is your last chance and your livelihood will depend on it's success. Then they announce that the blue haired fruit tart on your team will be lead writer and you just know you are effed beyond salvation.
@@bane4743 it must be soul crushing to just be a normal engine dev or graphics designer for the game and then see the absolute shit cake of dialogue and story your creative director comes up with how can you take your job serious?
If people that are mad about this kind of stuff actually did this it would have less concurrent players on launch, but people online talk shit about these games and then also go buy them just because and preach about how bad it is never even refunding the games they disliked. Its a gigantic cycle that occasionally we get good results in.
This is the real fraud! As a gamer Achieving something in a game means allot to you only because you can´t achieve anything in the real life. Then it get reset, and you are nobody, and have to start all over. This is how gaming Industry work. Im 45 year old and used to be hard core gamer. I still play games. I achieved everything I wanted in games at the cost of living the worst life ever. The truth is sad and nobody want to understand it not hear it because the truth hurt. You dont get your dosage of dopamine if someone tells you the truth in your face. You loose allot of it and get adrenaline instead. This is how your bodys chemistry work, and people designing games know it.
This reminded me back in the early 90s when my parents weren't sure if I should play Mortal Combat due to the blood and how other adults at the time said that all gaming lead to violence. Most of these arguments are still out there but now the arguments just morph to match our culture of the times.
"Asmon's opinion becoming the default". It won't become the default, it always has been the default. This divisive nonsense they're trying to shoehorn into games is what's new and people aren't accepting.
Funny how they're framing it as everyone accepting Asmon's opinion as default instead of his opinion just being in line with everyone else's. And then people say Asmon has an ego when apparently implicitly dictates the opinion for millions lol.
@@abadenoughdude300 Well when the people who are pushing this don't have an original thought in their head I bet they actually do think normal people live their lives doing and thinking just as they are told. Just like the puppets who try to gaslight all of us gamers when they deliver a turd wrapped in a $70-$120 package.
@@corberus3119 I think that's apart of the issue. They don't realize that [insert identity] people are just people. They don't let them be people. Let them be flawed. Let them make mistakes. Have them be foolish and not understand things about others and everyone else. Let them live in their world like a real person. Identity politics is a privilege. Dinner comes first. Compromise so people can work together comes first. A lot of the time, it removes the person from the world and makes the story about them. Even worse, they HAVE to make that person a representation of ALL of one group and since it aligns with their ideals they must be good. It ultimately becomes condescending, stereotypical, and patronizing. Then they act like we should not only thank them for their moral virtue but reward them too.
Modern day critics mistakenly believe their job is to tell other people what they should think or how they should feel. They are no longer provide any value to consumers.
This reminds me of a comment on a forum on Roger Ebert's review site: "No offense, but we don't read your reviews because we care whether or not you liked a movie. We read them to figure out whether or not WE would like it."
Bro i used to watch teens review videogames on their mom's camcorder back in the youtube broadcast yourself days. We would be completely fine without big games media
"If you don't like it, don't buy it" only works when the game is well received by the majority of your customer base and there's the small minority group of people who complain about it doesn't work when the company is neglecting what should be their core audience base while simultaneously dumping hundreds of millions of dollars into games that is heavily catering towards a small fraction of their potential customers I swear these developers sometimes forget that they're making an entertainment product that they need to sell and not an art project that they're creating for fun
This is why we need gamers running youtube channels, you can literally see what opinion your getting from who rather than an incentivised faceless journo writing an article for social credit score and party invites
When the lines between an advertisement and journalism don’t exist. We are back in the days of tycoon owned newspapers shilling for their masters. If there was ever a break from that it didn’t last long
"The game has different ethnicities and that's bad" Yes, as they make zero in-world sense and aren't in-world ethniticities/minorities but a reflection of modern-day california population, taking along the modern lingo for the ride.
This is actually what annoys me the most about stuff like this. Idc what the race or gender or whatever characters are, but it needs to make sense. And it's just SO obviously shoved in all the time. Like the god of war one, they're Norse right? Lol
I worked as a reporter for my local newspaper from 2008-2010. I quit because i learned how ugly the business is, even in a rural privately owned business. Ad revenue is king. And u can never be impartial when ur indebted to contributors. We ran stories and opinions because of ads and didnt run stories because of ads. Ad revenue should be banned in news reporting.
Murdoch spent a lot of effort in my country with rural papers. Turns out its worth spending thr money to turn those things into mouthpieces. He was copied.
1:55 This is exactly it. "Censorship is great as long as it aligns with my own personal morals" is basically nowadays society in a nutshell, but it's especially true for journalism.
I think the fact that LESBIAN DANCE THEORY is a valid certificate for a college education that can get you in thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt is an issue with the school and the school should be sued for swindling people. Not only sued, but dismantled, and brought down. This is ridiculous
This is wild. If I were the developer I’d go to the people who understand my market the best and find out what they’re saying. The journalists used to try to interpret what the fans would like. Now they try to tell the fans what they’ll like. Now TH-cam reviewers fill that niche because they know what makes a good video game.
I pirate video games, to try them out, similar to a demo, because games journalism is a complete fucking joke. If I try it and like it, I buy it. If after an hour or two I'm not a fan, I uninstall.
That's why I'm so happy for let's plays. I can usually find out if I want to buy a game just based on the TH-camr playing it. Especially nice if they get to play it before release
I pirate Bad games, share it with my friends the copy, and collectively say "it's Shit" and spread word to any and every community we know We are REAL GAMING JOURNALIST
"Why treat adults like children and control what content is available" to paraphrase your question about 29 mins in. And i answer - its all control. They dont want people's opinions they want obediant compulsion. They want you eager to snap up what they make and agree to their message and not be inclined to ask questions or challenge the agenda. Theres much more sinister implications in all this... hence they look to cancel and shut down any form of commentary that controverts their agenda.
To loosely quote a youtuber Pilgrim'sPass on his video about types of dystopias: "The reason you need twitter creature with blue hair and 7 degrees in bulshitology to tell you what a woman is, is the desire to strip control from the individual even on something as basic as their everyday interactions."
@@araamahasla555 As a notoriously infamous man once said "The first war is to rewrite history, take away a people's lineage and they're easily persuaded." Another also said "A lie repeated enough becomes accepted as truth."
It is unreal how far they fell. I seriously thought Jim was making a joke but nope. What's more hilarious is that I unsubscribed from him YEARS AGO, before he transitioned, I found his content got more annoying as time went on, he kept using the same visuals and music to the point it got repetitive and annoying. His "solutions" were also a joke because he kept repeating the same thing again and again non-stop
Reminder that Nathan Grayson is the fraud that wrote an undeserving positive review for a game of his then girlfriend Zoe Quinn, which started the original GamerGate. They then turned the narrative into something else than journalistic integrity and changed it to GamerHate. It is disgusting that Asmon even mentions him and their private conversations as being nice.
@@jayhanna3712 Everyone gets judged and world gets to be a better place then no? You are either advocting for everyone to just do bad things and not get judged by it, or you are actually arguing for me, thinkin otherwise.
@@sarvashaktimaan7106 I prefer he does not treat scum like they are decent human beings. He had polite conversations with the guy and he comes and paints him terribly behind his back. He cant change the past but I was expecting him to say something like "I will never treat him as a proper human being" after the backstabbing.
I’m progressive, I’ve advocated for myself and others my whole life, and I’ll be damned if a company tells me that I’m a bigot because I don’t like BAD PRODUCT. 🖕
@@RightyAllrightysome are maoist, some are stalinist, some are leninist some are trotskyists, some are anarchists, some are kautskyists some are Proudonists some are Marxist-lenist, others are Dengist..
@@napakapa1046 I think y'all are giving them way too much credit assuming they actually have a philosophy behind their "agree with me dammit!" mindset.
So simplifying: you can't tell someone that there is a man and a woman, cause it doesn't work this way, but you can tell people that there is man, woman and 100 things in between and expect them to follow that cause you say so.. On top of that you can call it freedom of speech and tolerance. Extremely tolerant.
i remember in middle school they had poster with 100 different genders, i was the only one who argued against it, i knew kids with girlfriends who wanted to cut off their thing because of the posters, children are very easily influenced.
I recently watched a Zoomer playing MGS 1 from 1998. This game has a Kurdish woman, and this feature (region of origin) was one of many in the history of this character. It was so diverse that people had to use Google since not many knew who a "Kurdish person" was. It's a great game, with a great characters and an amazing story. But now in a lot of games there is no diversity even if game is advertised as diverse. There is always minority oprresed by the system, lesbian with short hair that is boring af, women that look like they have membership card to KFC rather than to nearby gym. Like cmon bruh - I'm sure there are hot lesbians with long hair, hot women, people representing miniorities that can handle themselves in any situation. Just stop making characters from one form and calling it diverse - they look and act the same in every "diverse" game.
Same with TV. Rose Tyler is a beloved Doctor Who character who has been around since I was a kid yet they recently perverted her legacy by making a black trans in her name and giving it NO personality other than hitching at people for assuming the gender of a stuffed animal, is the plot is that she is apparently LITERALLY superior to normall people because she's "not binary!" (not "nonbinary"), and they turned the Doctor into a total fruit (both of him) so that's miserable... should be illegal smfh
The problem is people view diversity in a very narrow sense. For all the touting of diversity in movies, games, etc, there is NEVER any diversity of thought, opinion, or perspective. It's only the most basic, superficial "diversity" that is formulaic.
I think Black Myth Wukong is the perfect example of just how insane gaming discourse has become. The people that hate it, hate it because of comments made by the dev that were mistranslated by an activist journo. They are mad over something that wasn't even said. That then somehow snowballed into Wukong apparently being some right wing, incel bro game, to the point where it's not even getting nominated for Game of the Year. There is no way to look at this situation without it being f*cking ridiculous. These pro censorship, culture wars freaks are mad because they no longer have any power and are unable to control the narrative. Gamers are waking up to this bullsh*t. They aren't even secretive about their agenda. They do not want people to have their own opinions, and they certainly don't want them to have a place or platform to air those opinions.
That was a purposeful hit piece because the developers didn't pay 7 million USD for DEI consultation so the mafia started their attacks which as shown didn't really do anything to the overall sales and in fact it did the opposite and just galvanized the gamers to back the developers even more. Black Myth Wukong was never eligible for that useless award anyway.
@@nox22119 that extortion thing is just a rumor, BUT I wouldn't be surprised if Sweet Baby Inc. or some other "consulting" company actually did that. After all, Kim Belair openly said some VERY bad things. Anyway, I still believe that this extortion thing happened, but I just wanted to clarify this case a little.
You know. What if someone decided to let out the detailed reality of the core of this whole thing??? Then what happens? Especially possible when a character taking the brunt of the attacks isnt being compensated. t@@BulletSponge71436
"A lot of the people who watched his video were probably never going to buy the game anyway." I just wanna say that I can watch Asmongold's videos, agree with him on some of his opinions, disagree on others, and still buy the game and play it. All the while noting how disappointing and yes, one could argue agenda-pushing, certain aspects of the writing and narrative is. And I think Asmon is right when he says most of us don't hate inclusive elements, we just hate bad games, and Veilguard is a bad game mainly because it's written so lazily that it's insulting to the players and the franchise, and consequently (ironically), doing more damage to the minorities they're trying to tick a box for.
They complain about the reviewers leaving negative comments on YT. Yet, many of these gamers had to actually buy the game, play it, and leave a legitimate review about the product. They weren't given a free code unless they met certain criteria. These journalists were leaving great comments for the game and it hadn't even been out yet. If you're selling authentic jewelry, but it turns out to be fake, then complain about the criticism; it isn't the consumer's fault nor is it the people who revealed that the jewelry was fake. Instead, you can look at how much a AAA game has depreciated in value within less than a week because the company sold slop. Good luck in selling that hard copy and getting your money back.
What I say to video game journalists in regards to people choosing to consume other media around games: When equality feels like oppression, then you were privileged before.
"You don't need to go online and talk about it for 18 hours or whatever." Right, unless you agree with his narrative. Then you should do exactly as he's doing. "Go online talk about it for 18 hours or whatever"
as a 45 year old that watches Asmongold, I'm pretty surprised I'm a minority! I find US politics weird as hell and struggle to understand the logic in it however I love his arguments, they are extremely reasonable. As a teacher in my country, I have made it my mission to improve students critical thinking skills as it's key for the survival of the human race!
US politics are weird, mainly because of 2016 when a political outsider became leader. Since then, the established political parties [or uniparty] started a culture war, which is still raging on today.
@@SonOfNonetrump broke the minds of so many people, because he wasn’t supposed to win, he was never a major politician before how could someone like trump win an election, and so they started to label every single person who voted for trump or was even critical of the establishment as “nazi” and “racist”
@@wewel5949 I would say he absolutely did. That is why the uniparty hates him, I believe. It disrupts the old guard's grasp on power and shows how corrupt politicians have been for decades.
@@wewel5949 He did not, he completely borked the one major crisis of his term, actually making it worse. He's now a literal felon, and did the same thing Clinton had done, as president rather than secretary of state. But whether he was good or bad (and opinions differ) is irrelevant to whether or not his impact on US politics has been 'weird'. And it absolutely has been.
@@Zekium Endymion source said the one million sold is actually one million shipped, with only more than half a million sold. Tons of stores can't sell the game and sitting collecting dust.
@@Zekium could be total units shipped out to retailers and not necessarily gamers who who have bought the game. So without any breakdown I don’t think I believe that number yet.
I had a few friends that was unironically happy that the Failguard had that amount of players on launch and was beating the so called "chuds" who was usimg every excuse in the book to say it failed. I let it play out for a few days haha
- It's your fault as a youtuber/streamer to tell the truth - It's your fault as a gamer to agree with the truth 1984 is supposed to be a warning, not a guidebook
I love when journalists talk about other peoples views like they're nothing when their articles usually can't break past fringe minority status. Even Jason, who's relatively famous in the scene, probably can't break 5 figures consistently and definitely doesn't break 6 consistently. For estimates, bloomberg, the whole site, gets around 45 million views a month, and posts 300 articles a day... that averages to 5000 views an article.
The crazy thing is that Veilguard could have just made Taash bisexual and no one would have cared. Nothing about the character really screams "non-binary" but more like they wanted her to be a masculine woman that likes both men and women. Thats called a lesbian. This whole thing came about because one dev self inserted their mental illness into the game.
they wouldnt have cared either if they used the word that they came up with themselves that the qunari use. taash's mom suggested that maybe she is like that, and she is exactly just like that. it would have made sense. but the word non-binary alone is ridiculously immersion breaking and stupid, because the word quite literally comes from the binary system where everything is ones and zeroes. non-binary suggests that the person doesnt fit into ones or zeroes neither, those representing men and women obviously. the binary system was invented in the 1700s, which is centuries later than the medieval ages where the dragon age fantasy world is very obviously based upon, and the concept of gender identity was discovered in the 1960s. there is absolutely zero plausible universe where the existence of the word "non-binary" would make any lick of sense in a medieval fantasy world.
i really really hope failguard win the game of the year. once it win youtube could dismantle it entirely and shows that the whole gaming journalism thing is a fraud and remove any trace of credibility it had left basically stringing it up to dry.
"The more you enable these people the more power they gain until they become a default". That actually sounds like what the mind virus has been doing all along.
The audience is never the issue. The audience is the industry. Without an audience, nobody gives a shit about the company, their morals, their quality... none of it matters without the audience. We are the industry.
The big problem that some of these revieing sites have is they are not fully transparent in how they review the games and some say they use the same criteria for an indie game and a AAA game. It's like reviewing a family car on the same criteria as a sports car.
I would say that this is far more likely the types at SBI and their ilk... the reign bow maphia and especially the femma-not-sees. In fact, the *actual* small hats would be quite opposed to a lot of this crap, too. This is coming from exactly the kind that you'd expect to see with strangely colored hair... and others with very... ah... flexible wrists... and attending "pallie" demonstrations... and hosting The View... or programs on the MSNPC channel.
BG3: Don't like a character in your party? Do any of the following:
1- Don't agree with what they say
2- Don't have them in your party
3- Don't have them in your camp
4- Don't let them live
DA Veilgard: Don't like a character in your party? Do any of the following:
1- Don't play the game
2- Refund the game
3- Don't buy the game in the first place
4- Pretend the game doesn't exist
I they just give opinions that you can go woke or not in a game, but they find out that most people then don’t go woke and we can’t have that the message is the most important not making a good game people like
It's criminal to even mention Veilguard in the same breath as BG3 😂
@@JoeRandoms only for comparison. This is contrast, like naming God and satan in the same sentence to describe the best and the worst as concepts.
And that’s why BG3 was game of the year, and why DEI the Failguard is flop of the year
Lol you think BG3 was good? Cringe
"This was not made for you"
Ok
Wait no, comeback! YOU BIGOTS!!
How dare you "Bigots" not buying the product!!!
On that personal note, I'm gonna pre order MH wilds on my other account too
As John Oliver once said, "Okay, who gives a shit?"
Not buying games that weren't made for you is LITERALLY violence
Wokies definitely give off strong "It's your fault I hit you, you just make me so mad!" vibes.
Ah hello corporate Amber heard
"The J cries out as he strikes you" - Polish proverb
My dad says that about why he used to hit my mom, what an absolute scumbag
_yOu dIDn'T GeT pUncHeD, yOu GoT hIt 👧🏼_
ive litterally seen videos of libers admitting to police they assaulted the person because the person offended them rofl.
"I think dishonest journalism is one of the most corrosive things that we're dealing with, as a society." I could not agree more.
They project everything they say and have zero self reflection.
It's yesterday's kids trying to make it big on the internet and they won't stop at anything if it means a company coming along and paying them to review their title.
but not any right wing outlets though right?
Journalism has long been sensationalized. The real corrosion in today's society is cynicism towards everything.
Back in 2012 we were offered to come listen to a guest speaker for the journalism class because they had heaps of spare seats and most of us went because we had nothing better to do. This lady told us straight up that if any of us ever wanted to be a journalist that we should try and get into independent and/or investigative journalism because the majority of journalism is just a soulless propaganda machine and working in it 'will make you hate yourself' her exact words. That was over a decade ago in Australia and she spoke at length about how corrupt our news sources here are and how she experienced the same going to the UK and Canada. Its so much worse now and its across the entire world.
DEI - Discrimination, exclusion, indoctrination
Literally so true
Didn't Earn It
Intolerance
Snowflake
DEI=Destroy Everything Instantly
"If you don't like the product give a bad review"
*audience gives a bad review*
"HOW DARE YOU?!"
I heard this in Gretas voice
@@soggybread749 me too
@@soggybread749 Greta Thumbs up
"How dare you think? You will do what I tell you to do, like what I tell you to like".
Buy the game and if you don't like it, don't play it and don't leave a review
Imagine hating on potential customers instead of catering to them. Wild times we live in
Never before have we seen so many developers just telling their costumer "we dont want your money, we hate you!" The modern videogame industry since 2018 has been a mess, new devs and executive are egocentric dumbasses, putting identity and ideology first before Fun and Experience in their Products
We live in a simulation. 😂
I've been waiting for Ubisoft to go under for 8 years now.
EA is next on the chopping block (hopefully).
The customers always wrong 😂
Dare them to let real gamers to vote on a game instead of bunch of people who doesn't even play games.
*It’s our fault* for wanting good games.
*For rejecting the LGBT agenda,*
*For having differing opinions,*
*For thinking for ourselves…*
It absolutely is our fault. It is. We have tolerated their bs when we clearly shouldn't have.
I mean, I don't wanna take all the credit. It's a team effort.
I’m doing my part
I'm doing my part
*Child steps out
I'm doing my part!
I'm doing my part!
I’m doing my part
"TH-camrs aren't bound by journalistic integrity"
Is he forgetting the first gamergate was started because a journo was sleeping with a dev while giving positive coverage of her objectively terrible game without declaring a conflict of interests?
Nathan Grayson
Journalists lied, and people died, but that was totally ethical (or so we're told).
yes... that was a journalist violating his journalistic code of ethics not a youtuber who as asmon said don't have a journalistic code of ethics and thus arent bound by it.
@@mrturbo84 Is that the guy who was practically forced into suicide or was that another guy
@bluemutt9964 I think that was the same dude. Don't quote me on it, though, it's been years, and I can't remember the names of these people.
"Let's imagine a world without video game outlets. No IGN, no Kotaku, no Polygon"
Don't threaten people with a good time. That is a dream scenario for many people, not a dystopia.
I trust Angry Joe.
That's going to become a reality very soon!
Please don't do that, don't give me hope
Them gaming journalists: *Angrily crying*"IMAGINE WORLD WITHOUT US"
We, the players: YEAH, IF ONLY
@bradleymoore2797 you know he was blasted recently for being an access media schill.
There's a reason people call dragon age woke and don't call Cyberpunk woke.
Such a twisted concept to say people's criticism isn't valid if they don't address every aspect of a product.
If you review a restaurant and the food tastes like shit, that's where the review can end. There's no need to speak about the comfortable chairs or the nice cutlery.
Gonna dust off the old "Hear hear!" for that comment.
Game studio employees are just using their companies as a platform for being toxic...to what they believe is a captive audience, their customers. Studios obviously haven't caught on yet, blinded by sympathy.
With user reviews we get the benefit of the wisdom of the crowd. We also end up with a meritocracy where consistent user reviewers end up with followings and eventually a platform.
Yeah, except in this analogy it isn't just that the food tastes like shit. The food tastes like shit _and_ is undercooked, it has the least comfortable chairs you've ever seen, the whole restaurant feels like a clinic and smells like industrial sanitizer, the whole time you're at the table you have someone from PR looking over one shoulder and someone from HR looking over the other (even though *you* don't even work there), and when the chef delivers you your food xe spits in your face and knocks over your water into your lap.
@@ColeBlueford and also tells you it's your fault
It's amazing that Devs, Publishers, and Writers haven't made a mistake in like 10 years, everything has been totally perfect and the only problem is the audience being bad.
Yeah man, can't believe i haven't been buying every 30-70 dollar game that came out in the last decade. The amount of shame I feel for daring to carefully pick what games I spend my money on
Stunning. Brave. They've been on a flawless victory streak for a decade. I don't understand how they all lost so much money and relevance.
for me the hax is that I never hear "journalist" get punished for creating false narration or hate mongering, my trust on people with absolute Power
Game journos rate this comment a 10/10. Back to form!
Mass Effect 3 was released in 2012, and they called people "entitled" for criticizing it.
Baldur's Gate 3 is that one friend that keeps making indian food and shares it with you, and you're surprised to find out he's vegan.
Dragon Age Veilguard is that one vegan friend that won't shut up about being vegan, and then lectures and shames you for liking bacon.
Lol, pretty about that about the difference indeed, well put :)
Sometimes I wonder why I am even friends with them to start with and just walk away.
I know this sounds bad and looks like I am not a good friend, but I don't want to be judged 24/7.
Sorry, but farewell.
Would that make South Park: The Fractured But Whole the vegan that makes fun of themselves?
Dang what an accurate way to put it...
Amen
This reminds me of the classic example of a failed restaurants on hells kitchen 😂
The chef is convinced that his food is good but all the customers are saying his food is terrible.
No one comes to buy food and the chef is completely clueless and is sure its not his cooking that is bad but all the customers being bad, and now the restaurant is indebt.
I've seen it a basillion times on hells kitchen with Gordon Ramsay.
It's hillarious how you can like say its exactly the same with Bioware LMAO 🤣
"What are you?" "An idiot sandwich sir" 🤣
It's hubris. They're over-inflated egos, and self-importance is their downfall.
EA canceld Dead Space 2 remake and Alice Madness 3 but green lit this gay fantasy shit
Ain't no way there was an Alice 3. I don't believe it. Please tell me you are lying.
They simply don't want our money anymore
@@PolarBearZoo1 Yep, Alice Asylum, the creator even proposed buying the rights/license from EA to make it and they still said no, if i remember correctly
@@PolarBearZoo1 there was, McGee handed sketches to EA in order to get an approval and funding, buuuut
“On the question of funding, they have ultimately decided to pass on the project based on an internal analysis of the IP, market conditions, and details of the production proposal. On the question of licensing, they replied that Alice is an important part of EA’s overall game catalog, and selling or licensing it isn’t something they’re prepared to do right now.”
So yeah, Alice is a bit dead rn since the rights are in EA's hands, and they don't like giving up on them
@@PolarBearZoo1there was. The creator did all he could together with an eager community to make it easy for EA to give it the GO. They did not, and thus American Mcgee vowed to leave game making forever.
Interesting how they'll switch from "everything is political" to "not everything needs to be political" as it suits their argument.
Yeah, now that they're losing and everything's been exposed finally. Lmao
They change definitions as they suit them, this stuff is second nature
@@ferret7183 I think video games is one realm of a hobby that won't take kindly to these people. It's just so massive to something like Warhammer or NBA that there can't possibly be enough woke people in it to outnumber the normal people
"By any means necessary" is basically "the end justifies the means". They are authoritarians.
@@finkamain1621 They've been trying to take over the gaming industry for at least a decade now, and gamers have never taken very kindly to them. These people are ALWAYS outnumbered by the normal people in any hobby/industry they invade. That's why their strategy is always to go for positions of authority or power (of which there are significantly less than there are people in the hobby/industry as a whole) so that they can then dictate how everything is run. The problem in gaming is that Indie games exist. They've basically taken all the positions of power and authority in gaming at this point, but because gaming is largely decentralized we can just choose not to play their garbage propaganda and choose instead to play Indie games that don't feed into their narrative.
The main problem with Journalism is that it's clearly at odds with what i can clearly see for myself:
I get told that Single Player games are dead every other year, but they consistently show up at Game of the Years awards as GOTY contender
I get told that games today are far more inclusive and tackle much harder themes than the past, but they still cannot even touch the level of Final Fantasy 10's Story or Characters in 2001
I get told that games are far bigger than they ever been, but they cannot even approach the freedom that Planescape: Torment gave me back in 1999
"I get told that Single Player games are dead every other year, "
"gaming on PC is dead" but evolved into even more silly form - you'll love to see it
Yep, whenever someone tries to falsify reality in order to support their views, it calls everything they say and do into question. This applies to a lot of things actually.
@@christianalanwilson434lol yet they just don’t get that doesnt work. They keep telling us to ignore our eyes and ears and just believe what we are told
The one nuance here is that we do have some journalists making articles countering some of the things you mentioned especially the one about single-player games being dead, I read an article breaking it down and the guy made some interesting cases with the data about how well single-player games are doing and how he thought it will be in the future as well. Its just that the annoying articles get blown up to the top of the search results always.
Final Fantasy doesn’t push it so much it’s pretentious
Bg3 is that newly re-opened steakhouse that was once famous decades ago but was closed down. At first you enter with skeptism, but it quickly goes away after seeing how the new manager (Larian) not only fulfill your order but come with extra free appetizers and desserts as a thank you. It's so good that you bring your vegan friend on the next visit. Again, the manager surprises you with their vegan special that cater perfectly for that vegan friend, so you both can enjoy the meals together.
As for DA Veilguard, it is the McDonald everyone has heard of. You are tired after a long day of work and just want to eat a juicy burger, so you go in and order one. You take a bite. Foul taste fills your mouth as you spew out. Surprise mf! It's a vegan burger, with soy sauce on top! You find the newly appointed bluehaired manager and demand your fat juicy burger or else you'll want a refund. Instead of receiving an apology, you got a lecture about the health benefit of their new vegan burger and that they are done making their classic burger. Upset, you go home and write a bad review toward this famous food chain. Then, you saw a bunch of articles praising the new changes, saying it's the best thing ever, and anyone not agreeing are fascists.
Modern Age Is Indeed Sad; Maybe the planet should be swallowed by a Dark whole; and we get isekaid into a new world with magic, and furriers., demi humans, cat wolf, dog reptile snake, and every single type of race in fantasy, elves and dragons dwarves etc, and all we do as a living, is enter a dungeons and destroy robotically beast and animals, or wild rabid monsters for loot and make a living, in the middle of a magical lake, where animals have goofy glow effect also plants.
Life could be so much better, instead of just politics, and money
27:06
The fact this "journalist" thought Dragon Age would be played by over 10 million players just goes to show they are absolutely out of touch with games. And they think they are the ones who know all..... hilarious
Modern leftism in a nutshell.
Funny how he said “10 million players”, yet the player count didn’t EVEN reach 90k.
I find that game to be a complete joke.
It's because they think it's 2010 still and haven't realized their job is redundant, pointless, and outdated. Access media is a plague on the truth, and it's inauthentic.
@@mattd5240 Thank you for not calling it "liberalism"!
@@vampire847 That's because it bears no resemblance to liberalism. It's gone so far beyond the pale that it's mutated into something more resembling stalinism.
The prologues of Dragon Age: Origins are better than the entire Veilguard. But let's pretend the issue is the gamers.
Why do we still let Nathan Grayson on the internet unsupervised again?
Bro was Ground Zero for Gamergate.
He started it with a Bang...
@@mrturbo84He ended that bang with a whimper 😂
@@scottball2796 😂
I need compansation
First they say "lets make this woke game super successful! Own the chuds!"
Then the game gets released and surprise surprise, its boring, lacks innovation, the characters are insufferable and have bad designs, the story is full of self inserts from weak minded people, the game tries to take every cent from you it can with ridiculous monetization schemes, and tries to force some weird doctrine that a small % of people actually have and disguises it as a superior moral code. Then the game flops and loses the studio hundreds of millions of $$$$ and sometimes gets it shut down.
All I gotta say to them is "LOSERS LOSE"
These "journalists" fail so hard on realizing that games that aren't about romantic relationships don't need gender/pronouns and LGBT relationships. We want myths/legends and fantasy. Not half thought out dialogue that virtue signals for no meaningful reason.
_The funny thing is, by taking a quick peek at the games the furry community plays, you will notice that the most popular LGHDTV+ stuff crosses over with stuff the furries like._
_The mainly popular ones are visual novels or RPGs and the main genre is romance or drama._
_That's what they like. But these journalists fail to do even basic market research to identify what specific topics certain demographics relate to._
I could not have enjoyed Elden Ring if my character was Male and not Body Type A. No shot.
I mean, if we want myth, legends, and fantasy, then we kind of are asking for T and pronouns😅
@@Bouch1018 brooo good one
Exactly, we want good stories. Not shallow bullshit filled with special interests.
- Lazy devs incorporate ideological 1 trait characters whilst ignoring feedback
- Sane people complain about the terrible implementation
- Journos call opps chuds and collect their shill bucks
Itll only be so long before those shill bucks dont exist anymore, and they wont either.
- Cartoonishly bad project managers inflate budgets to hundreds of millions of dollars and extend development times into 10 years or more.
- Cartoonishly greedy execs cut QA departments to "reduce expenses" while mandating 100 hours a week crunch time.
- Same cartoonishly greedy execs actually think the game will move the 20M+ copies it needs to just break even day one.
There appears to be a problem with ethics in gaming journalism
Always has been.
There's a problem with ethics in our media and government as well its just a thing, I mean even getting Repubs in office (only some not all of them) instead of getting to work are skipping some of the basic requirements of our country regarding ethics and background run-downs. Its disappointing.
Nah, no problem, they fixed it by getting completely rid of it. 😂
@@christianalanwilson434 I member EA paid journalists to kill entire CNC franchise .
"What's that?"
46:05 You viewpoint is the default one because it's the most agreed upon by the majority of gamers.
We don't simply agree with you as a result of watching your channel.
We watch your channel, because we agree with you.
same in germany with "game two" well known gamer journalists here i swear they made a reel where they told us literarlly that the fanbase and viewership are trolls and not experts so therefore we need to shut up. Never gonna watch it again in my life.
Die haben kurz drauf massiv an abos und Zuschauer verloren.
Ist aber eigentlich egal, die sind eh nicht mehr relevant. Hätten halt nicht schlechte Moderatoren holen sollen und dann noch Leute die definitiv gar keinen Plan von gaming haben.... Ist halt einfach schlecht
Wissen sie, wann das war? Habe sie seit dem ende von GameOne nkaum mehr geschaut
Never heard of game two as a german but I don't engage with any journalism fortunately. I'll just buy what I'll play
@@flashmasterp.2685weist du zufällig genau welches Video das war?
Hab anfangs noch sehr gerne Game Two geschaut, es gab einige tolle Beiträge aber mit den ganzen neuen Nasen kann ich nicht wirklich viel anfang…
germany has been a joke for at least 30 years
"People don't care about diversity in games if the quality is high enough" they're so close to seeing it's actually about quality. They're just not quite getting it
They need to realize there is a stark contrast between fair inclusion and promotive glorification.
All their complains are about ideology and politic, what happen to the game? People look for a game not politic.
It's like how Overwatch is or at least used to be. It used to be quite diverse in a normal way, it wasn't advertised as a diverse game, it just was and people didn't care because they enjoyed the game.
If it's high enough sure but the woke shit is still a negative for 90+% of players. It's not a neutral and definitely not a positive. It's like getting a professional chef to cook you a meal and then saying that if the quality is good enough you won't care about the dog shit they added to the meal. Maybe true but what sort of worthless statement is that.
People don't care about diversity in games.
Won't somebody please think of the multi-billion dollar companies!!!!?
Lol. Definitely think about the companies that pay me money.
@@JacobHimmelhaver-m8g Imagine thinking the companies isnt easily replacable too. Moment one loses ground another thing takes that same ground
SpaceX? Tesla?
No. They are nothing, it's all the government maaan, like, the internet said so maaaaaan
Audience leaves positive reviews: This game is a success! We love the fans!
Audience leaves negative reviews: The fans are bigots! This is review-bombing!
Nathan Greyson was one of the 'journalists' that was caught with his fingers in Zoe Quinn's pie at the beginning of the original Gamer Gate controversy. He denied that having a sexual relationship with a game developer might bias his opinion of the product that she was making and attacked the people that pointed it out. Crazy, right?!
Oh he was one of the legendary 5 Guys??? 😂
@thebenis3219 correct!
@@thebenis3219always remember it’s only 5 we can prove. Who know about those we didn’t find
GG still pisses me off, because it was initially about journalist integrity in the gaming space, and morons who supported Zoe Quinn spun it into gamers vs women....
if thats true its disgusting but the girl looks mentally broken too... sad
As a female gamer who is also gay, I hate identity politics being shoehorned into games. I think the representation of the LGBT+ community in Dragon Age The veilguard is awful and is doing more harm than good. Good representation or no representation is better than what Dragon Age The Veilguard's representation.
I feel like I see this sentiment a lot, it's crazy! It seems like the actual minorities don't really care, and it's just virtue signaling. I don't understand how they keep ignoring that.
thank god im not the only lbgt women who thought the same.
Guys always wanted girls to join them. I went out a few days ago, I know, I know actually outside the house haha. I met two women, young mothers and we talked about kids who lose their pacifiers late in life. My experience was one in the family at 7. I of course said be careful about being too generous or empathic or you will have an 18 year old who won't turn off their PlayStation and still be sucking a dummy. Both of them in unison said 'I will never let my child play video-games'. That's not men preventing women from entering the market or space. This is not a rant directed at you but it just shows how disingenuous the media is on the topic of inclusion. Game of Throne was awesome for their inclusion of many peoples sexualities where we had a potential king on his way to power who was gay but it wasn't his entire life story just a part of who he is. That's what we want. Equinox in warframe is another good addition for this. Inclusion without intrusion.
finally, I also know a lesbian who said openly she hates this LGBT element in games and hates parades and never goes to any with her wife ! Those are the cool people in the LGBT community who know how it really is And not liking the propagation of a group does not mean one is against it or wishes to harm it. On the contrary, I got no problem with LGBT people in general I have a problem with DEI however.
LGBT friends of mine say the same things. They hate how they get lumped in with this lunacy. Making it harder for them to just live their lives.
Nathan Grayson, the guy who was boning the devs of games he was reviewing in his supposedly superior publication without disclosing it, btw. Still employed. Clown. Never forget, lol. Absolute zero ethics.
The 'actual' cause of 'Gamergate' then gaslit people and changed the narrative to be about toxic, sexist male gamers 😂 what a tool!
He still doesn't understand how Kamala could've lost to the "fascists"
wait what???
@MrShadowtruth that rabbithole is deep but technically he never reviewed her game. He did give it favorable coverage though in an article without disclosing that they was fuckin'. People noticed, asked for an apology, and got called sexists for noticing instead. Very brief description of the start of Gamergate.
is there an article about this?
Forspoken's dialogues.
Concord's graphics.
Dustborn's preachings.
Anthem's gaslighting.
Suicide Squad's disrespect for the source material.
By your powers combined... 😂😂😂😂
BEHOLD!
Imagine your corporate overlord tells you that the next project is your last chance and your livelihood will depend on it's success. Then they announce that the blue haired fruit tart on your team will be lead writer and you just know you are effed beyond salvation.
Dark days.
@@bane4743 it must be soul crushing to just be a normal engine dev or graphics designer for the game and then see the absolute shit cake of dialogue and story your creative director comes up with
how can you take your job serious?
Astute analogy, among the best i have read.
Easy. Retire or quit and find a new job. Nobody wants to have concord on their resume 😂
@@peeperinos Real
Whatever happened to "if you don't like it, don't buy it"?
Need to make shirts with this printed
Devs realised they actually need money to pay the bills.
If people that are mad about this kind of stuff actually did this it would have less concurrent players on launch, but people online talk shit about these games and then also go buy them just because and preach about how bad it is never even refunding the games they disliked. Its a gigantic cycle that occasionally we get good results in.
People actually started listening and they suddenly remembered they weren’t a private corporation making something niche and panicked.
They ran out of other people’s money
I and a lot of people haven’t even touched this game, how can anyone think it’s our fault when we don’t even care about this game’s existence?
😂 how dare you
gib money crowd when you don't give them your money "how dare you?!"
This is the real fraud! As a gamer Achieving something in a game means allot to you only because you can´t achieve anything in the real life. Then it get reset, and you are nobody, and have to start all over. This is how gaming Industry work. Im 45 year old and used to be hard core gamer. I still play games. I achieved everything I wanted in games at the cost of living the worst life ever. The truth is sad and nobody want to understand it not hear it because the truth hurt. You dont get your dosage of dopamine if someone tells you the truth in your face. You loose allot of it and get adrenaline instead. This is how your bodys chemistry work, and people designing games know it.
Its your fault that the Ceo cant buy his 5th yacht for you not buying his crap product😂. The guy didnt go to businessschool
Don't ask questions. Consoom product and get excited for next product.
This reminded me back in the early 90s when my parents weren't sure if I should play Mortal Combat due to the blood and how other adults at the time said that all gaming lead to violence. Most of these arguments are still out there but now the arguments just morph to match our culture of the times.
"Asmon's opinion becoming the default". It won't become the default, it always has been the default. This divisive nonsense they're trying to shoehorn into games is what's new and people aren't accepting.
and the thing is people don't have a problem with gay characters if their written well
Funny how they're framing it as everyone accepting Asmon's opinion as default instead of his opinion just being in line with everyone else's. And then people say Asmon has an ego when apparently implicitly dictates the opinion for millions lol.
@@abadenoughdude300 Well when the people who are pushing this don't have an original thought in their head I bet they actually do think normal people live their lives doing and thinking just as they are told. Just like the puppets who try to gaslight all of us gamers when they deliver a turd wrapped in a $70-$120 package.
@@corberus3119 I think that's apart of the issue. They don't realize that [insert identity] people are just people. They don't let them be people. Let them be flawed. Let them make mistakes. Have them be foolish and not understand things about others and everyone else. Let them live in their world like a real person. Identity politics is a privilege. Dinner comes first. Compromise so people can work together comes first. A lot of the time, it removes the person from the world and makes the story about them. Even worse, they HAVE to make that person a representation of ALL of one group and since it aligns with their ideals they must be good. It ultimately becomes condescending, stereotypical, and patronizing. Then they act like we should not only thank them for their moral virtue but reward them too.
Why does shoehorn have a blue underline hyperlink landing me on videos on shoehorns?
Imagine being so entitled that you cannot fathom that you are not discriminated against and that you are the discriminator
This can also be said about the people who hate tge game too.
No. Try again. Or don't. We don't care.
Cry me a river boy. Or better yet, go do you homework.
Narcissists.
It is my fault. I take responsibility.
We did it
It's OUR fault, Comrade
*victory
You are forgiven😊
Why yes, it was me who cost this multi-billionaire corporation a huge loss of money, how did you know? 🗿
"The American Fascist Project..."
That's all you need to hear.
Sounds like a great band name.
I'm very glad that I'm the problem and I'm gonna continue to be the problem. DEAL WITH IT!
Don't be part of the problem. Be the WHOLE problem.
@@JohnE9999 I'm doing my part by pirating everything
You're welcome
@@greenshinigami5566 DA: Gayguard isn't even worth the torrent trackers and it's a waste of unlimited 1000gb/s transfer.
Let's goooooo
Based
Modern day critics mistakenly believe their job is to tell other people what they should think or how they should feel. They are no longer provide any value to consumers.
i just fart pooped myself
This reminds me of a comment on a forum on Roger Ebert's review site: "No offense, but we don't read your reviews because we care whether or not you liked a movie. We read them to figure out whether or not WE would like it."
Bro i used to watch teens review videogames on their mom's camcorder back in the youtube broadcast yourself days. We would be completely fine without big games media
When you are useless, you do everything to appear as vital. It is nothing more than a defense mechanism.
Hello there xD
"Am I out of touch? .... No. It's the players who are wrong."
"Imagine a world where IGN, Kotaku, Polygon all just suddenly disappeared overnight"
Oh stop, I can only get so erect
If it did Happen.... I would be Stiff for days, like I chugged five Rhine pills 💊
Laughed my ass off, underrated comment 😂😂
They will disappear like a fart in the wind. Some will adapt but the outlets as we know will disappear. Its already happening.
I hope they never find jobs as journalists again. Learn to code.
Got me gooning out
"If you don't like it, don't buy it" only works when the game is well received by the majority of your customer base and there's the small minority group of people who complain about it
doesn't work when the company is neglecting what should be their core audience base while simultaneously dumping hundreds of millions of dollars into games that is heavily catering towards a small fraction of their potential customers
I swear these developers sometimes forget that they're making an entertainment product that they need to sell and not an art project that they're creating for fun
As asmon says, it is easy to be generous with someone else's money, so of course they don't care about whether the game sells or not.
This is why we need gamers running youtube channels, you can literally see what opinion your getting from who rather than an incentivised faceless journo writing an article for social credit score and party invites
🤷. Wanna talk about prehistoric ants some more? 😂😂😂😂😂
When the lines between an advertisement and journalism don’t exist. We are back in the days of tycoon owned newspapers shilling for their masters. If there was ever a break from that it didn’t last long
"All roads lead to ASMON" is a line that will forever live rent-free inside my head.
But all roads lead to Faker man....
"The game has different ethnicities and that's bad"
Yes, as they make zero in-world sense and aren't in-world ethniticities/minorities but a reflection of modern-day california population, taking along the modern lingo for the ride.
Really good point, why does every ancient city look like LA in 2024. Literally the meme about the bmw i30 in fantasy
This is actually what annoys me the most about stuff like this. Idc what the race or gender or whatever characters are, but it needs to make sense. And it's just SO obviously shoved in all the time. Like the god of war one, they're Norse right? Lol
I worked as a reporter for my local newspaper from 2008-2010. I quit because i learned how ugly the business is, even in a rural privately owned business. Ad revenue is king. And u can never be impartial when ur indebted to contributors. We ran stories and opinions because of ads and didnt run stories because of ads. Ad revenue should be banned in news reporting.
This is really the problem. The advertisers have WAY too much sway in all aspects of media.
If they become state funded the problem stays the same, just different puppeteers
@jonathanlarocque7397 nobody said state funded. Thats the very last thing wed ever need. Just ban advertising. Thats all.
Murdoch spent a lot of effort in my country with rural papers. Turns out its worth spending thr money to turn those things into mouthpieces. He was copied.
And politics
Game-Journalists: "I am the least bias, because I got bribed and pressured." 😅
Journalists pull out gun:"We no longer asking you to love woke games!"
Gamers:"Good. Cause we ain't doing it!"
Thankfully journalists can’t aim
Exactly. And when I think about it and the real power we have not buying a game. The gaming industry have alot to think through...
@@Zhtrikor jump
@@Zhtrikjust throw in a jump dash and they'll never make it out of the tutorial level.
1:55 This is exactly it. "Censorship is great as long as it aligns with my own personal morals" is basically nowadays society in a nutshell, but it's especially true for journalism.
Anyone that doesn't believe that free speech should protect the right to express views they disagree with, doesn't really believe in free speech.
This author majored in Lesbian Dance Theory in college and the only job prospect available after graduation was game journalist
This comment sums up 2024. Had you said this 15 years ago I would have been sure it was a joke.... now? I just believe you :)
I believe Aristotle invented Lesbian Dance Theory, right after inventing biology
@@jamesbuck2378 Biology is a social construct
I think the fact that LESBIAN DANCE THEORY is a valid certificate for a college education that can get you in thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt is an issue with the school and the school should be sued for swindling people. Not only sued, but dismantled, and brought down. This is ridiculous
@@noneya460 what about those who enrolled into it tho lol
This is wild. If I were the developer I’d go to the people who understand my market the best and find out what they’re saying. The journalists used to try to interpret what the fans would like. Now they try to tell the fans what they’ll like. Now TH-cam reviewers fill that niche because they know what makes a good video game.
0:16 If you ever win streamer of the year at the game awards, please play this part for your intro.
Feels appropriate to shamelessly plug "The Real Game Awards" by stutteringcraig that will be gamer's vote only.
Eventually, the coffers will dry up, and relaity will hit them when it's too late.
I pirate video games, to try them out, similar to a demo, because games journalism is a complete fucking joke.
If I try it and like it, I buy it. If after an hour or two I'm not a fan, I uninstall.
That's why I'm so happy for let's plays. I can usually find out if I want to buy a game just based on the TH-camr playing it.
Especially nice if they get to play it before release
I pirate Bad games, share it with my friends the copy, and collectively say "it's Shit" and spread word to any and every community we know
We are REAL GAMING JOURNALIST
Even Ultrakill's creator agree with pirate gaming
"Why treat adults like children and control what content is available" to paraphrase your question about 29 mins in.
And i answer - its all control. They dont want people's opinions they want obediant compulsion. They want you eager to snap up what they make and agree to their message and not be inclined to ask questions or challenge the agenda.
Theres much more sinister implications in all this... hence they look to cancel and shut down any form of commentary that controverts their agenda.
Its a COMMAND designed as a choice-
"Don't ask questions, just consume product."
To loosely quote a youtuber Pilgrim'sPass on his video about types of dystopias: "The reason you need twitter creature with blue hair and 7 degrees in bulshitology to tell you what a woman is, is the desire to strip control from the individual even on something as basic as their everyday interactions."
@@sungahymn Now start doing 'voting' :)
@@araamahasla555 As a notoriously infamous man once said "The first war is to rewrite history, take away a people's lineage and they're easily persuaded."
Another also said "A lie repeated enough becomes accepted as truth."
As long as you don't do a Jim Sterling and completely lose your sanity, then go get 'em Asmon.
Man, their spiral was an absolute rollercoaster 😅
You either die the hero, or live long enough to become the villain.
It is unreal how far they fell. I seriously thought Jim was making a joke but nope. What's more hilarious is that I unsubscribed from him YEARS AGO, before he transitioned, I found his content got more annoying as time went on, he kept using the same visuals and music to the point it got repetitive and annoying. His "solutions" were also a joke because he kept repeating the same thing again and again non-stop
@@Arcademan09 Same, many years ago he sited a Kotaku article and that was the moment I unsubbed.
Jim was already a nut case before his transitioning. He exhibited it through his body language for a long time
Game bad = Baldy fault
Twitch ban = Baldy fault
Adpocalypse= Baldy fault
Baldy owned his mistake but will make sure to ruin twitch if others don't own theirs
Baldy fault = twitch problem
Hey , how about TH-cam, I only watch baldy on TH-cam 😂😂
this comment is baldies fault
"And I looked, and behold, a pale horse! And its rider's name was Death, and Hades followed him."
@@greenshinigami5566 Baldys only mistake was apologizing
Plot twist, the whole 4.5 female audience are Vtubers
Reminder that Nathan Grayson is the fraud that wrote an undeserving positive review for a game of his then girlfriend Zoe Quinn, which started the original GamerGate. They then turned the narrative into something else than journalistic integrity and changed it to GamerHate. It is disgusting that Asmon even mentions him and their private conversations as being nice.
Judge and you shall be judged for your secret wrongs
Would you prefer he lied about someone being polite in private?
@@jayhanna3712 Everyone gets judged and world gets to be a better place then no?
You are either advocting for everyone to just do bad things and not get judged by it, or you are actually arguing for me, thinkin otherwise.
@@sarvashaktimaan7106 I prefer he does not treat scum like they are decent human beings. He had polite conversations with the guy and he comes and paints him terribly behind his back.
He cant change the past but I was expecting him to say something like "I will never treat him as a proper human being" after the backstabbing.
Grayson didn't write a review, he recommended it to be "green lighted" on steam.
I’m progressive, I’ve advocated for myself and others my whole life, and I’ll be damned if a company tells me that I’m a bigot because I don’t like BAD PRODUCT. 🖕
Progressives are not actually trying to progress. They are trying to return to a Maoist time period, but in this century
Shoe on the other foot now?
Maybe take the hint. Thats how normal people view “progressives”
@@RightyAllrightysome are maoist, some are stalinist, some are leninist some are trotskyists, some are anarchists, some are kautskyists some are Proudonists some are Marxist-lenist, others are Dengist..
@@napakapa1046 I think y'all are giving them way too much credit assuming they actually have a philosophy behind their "agree with me dammit!" mindset.
So simplifying: you can't tell someone that there is a man and a woman, cause it doesn't work this way, but you can tell people that there is man, woman and 100 things in between and expect them to follow that cause you say so.. On top of that you can call it freedom of speech and tolerance. Extremely tolerant.
i remember in middle school they had poster with 100 different genders, i was the only one who argued against it, i knew kids with girlfriends who wanted to cut off their thing because of the posters, children are very easily influenced.
@@wizardaleks3982 really ? When ?
This is just the angry blond woman yelling at the confused cat trying to eat his dinner meme
I just love it how much influence I have over things I never knew existed.
I recently watched a Zoomer playing MGS 1 from 1998. This game has a Kurdish woman, and this feature (region of origin) was one of many in the history of this character. It was so diverse that people had to use Google since not many knew who a "Kurdish person" was. It's a great game, with a great characters and an amazing story.
But now in a lot of games there is no diversity even if game is advertised as diverse. There is always minority oprresed by the system, lesbian with short hair that is boring af, women that look like they have membership card to KFC rather than to nearby gym. Like cmon bruh - I'm sure there are hot lesbians with long hair, hot women, people representing miniorities that can handle themselves in any situation. Just stop making characters from one form and calling it diverse - they look and act the same in every "diverse" game.
It's more the fault of poor education. I mean, if people don't know who the Kurds are.
And they are all from California, even if it's a fantasy world on the other side of the universe
Same with TV. Rose Tyler is a beloved Doctor Who character who has been around since I was a kid yet they recently perverted her legacy by making a black trans in her name and giving it NO personality other than hitching at people for assuming the gender of a stuffed animal, is the plot is that she is apparently LITERALLY superior to normall people because she's "not binary!" (not "nonbinary"), and they turned the Doctor into a total fruit (both of him) so that's miserable... should be illegal smfh
The problem is people view diversity in a very narrow sense. For all the touting of diversity in movies, games, etc, there is NEVER any diversity of thought, opinion, or perspective. It's only the most basic, superficial "diversity" that is formulaic.
Flutten?
I think Black Myth Wukong is the perfect example of just how insane gaming discourse has become. The people that hate it, hate it because of comments made by the dev that were mistranslated by an activist journo. They are mad over something that wasn't even said. That then somehow snowballed into Wukong apparently being some right wing, incel bro game, to the point where it's not even getting nominated for Game of the Year. There is no way to look at this situation without it being f*cking ridiculous.
These pro censorship, culture wars freaks are mad because they no longer have any power and are unable to control the narrative. Gamers are waking up to this bullsh*t. They aren't even secretive about their agenda. They do not want people to have their own opinions, and they certainly don't want them to have a place or platform to air those opinions.
That was a purposeful hit piece because the developers didn't pay 7 million USD for DEI consultation so the mafia started their attacks which as shown didn't really do anything to the overall sales and in fact it did the opposite and just galvanized the gamers to back the developers even more.
Black Myth Wukong was never eligible for that useless award anyway.
@@nox22119 that extortion thing is just a rumor, BUT I wouldn't be surprised if Sweet Baby Inc. or some other "consulting" company actually did that. After all, Kim Belair openly said some VERY bad things.
Anyway, I still believe that this extortion thing happened, but I just wanted to clarify this case a little.
You know. What if someone decided to let out the detailed reality of the core of this whole thing??? Then what happens? Especially possible when a character taking the brunt of the attacks isnt being compensated. t@@BulletSponge71436
"A lot of the people who watched his video were probably never going to buy the game anyway."
I just wanna say that I can watch Asmongold's videos, agree with him on some of his opinions, disagree on others, and still buy the game and play it. All the while noting how disappointing and yes, one could argue agenda-pushing, certain aspects of the writing and narrative is. And I think Asmon is right when he says most of us don't hate inclusive elements, we just hate bad games, and Veilguard is a bad game mainly because it's written so lazily that it's insulting to the players and the franchise, and consequently (ironically), doing more damage to the minorities they're trying to tick a box for.
Amazing point. Its like you got the point repeated 1000 times in this video
At this point, there is no silent majority. Just an ignored one.
That's a damn good quote
As Glen Greenwald said, no matter how much distain you have for Corpo Media, it is NOT ENOUGH
They complain about the reviewers leaving negative comments on YT. Yet, many of these gamers had to actually buy the game, play it, and leave a legitimate review about the product. They weren't given a free code unless they met certain criteria. These journalists were leaving great comments for the game and it hadn't even been out yet. If you're selling authentic jewelry, but it turns out to be fake, then complain about the criticism; it isn't the consumer's fault nor is it the people who revealed that the jewelry was fake. Instead, you can look at how much a AAA game has depreciated in value within less than a week because the company sold slop. Good luck in selling that hard copy and getting your money back.
What I say to video game journalists in regards to people choosing to consume other media around games:
When equality feels like oppression, then you were privileged before.
"You don't need to go online and talk about it for 18 hours or whatever."
Right, unless you agree with his narrative. Then you should do exactly as he's doing. "Go online talk about it for 18 hours or whatever"
"It's banned because it's not haram" got me LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
It’s okay to be Anglo Saxon
Also first
@@mrh4900facts
Who cares dude, go outside
Proud white Irish here 🤝
@@brnm973 who asked?
"Imagine all the roaches" -Don Lemon
as a 45 year old that watches Asmongold, I'm pretty surprised I'm a minority! I find US politics weird as hell and struggle to understand the logic in it however I love his arguments, they are extremely reasonable. As a teacher in my country, I have made it my mission to improve students critical thinking skills as it's key for the survival of the human race!
US politics are weird, mainly because of 2016 when a political outsider became leader. Since then, the established political parties [or uniparty] started a culture war, which is still raging on today.
@@SonOfNonetrump broke the minds of so many people, because he wasn’t supposed to win, he was never a major politician before how could someone like trump win an election, and so they started to label every single person who voted for trump or was even critical of the establishment as “nazi” and “racist”
@@SonOfNone didnt that 'political outsider' do well on his term tho? imagine if HC was elected after her emails leaked lol
@@wewel5949
I would say he absolutely did. That is why the uniparty hates him, I believe. It disrupts the old guard's grasp on power and shows how corrupt politicians have been for decades.
@@wewel5949 He did not, he completely borked the one major crisis of his term, actually making it worse. He's now a literal felon, and did the same thing Clinton had done, as president rather than secretary of state. But whether he was good or bad (and opinions differ) is irrelevant to whether or not his impact on US politics has been 'weird'. And it absolutely has been.
B.. but i thought.. Dragon Age Veilguards was doing well on the charts??
I guess getting 50K players (less than some roblox games) isn't good?
One million sells according to an inside source.
The game needs something like 5 to 7 millions just to cover the costs.
@@Zekium Endymion source said the one million sold is actually one million shipped, with only more than half a million sold. Tons of stores can't sell the game and sitting collecting dust.
50k ended a li'l after a week of release, now they're barely even getting 30k.
@@Zekium could be total units shipped out to retailers and not necessarily gamers who who have bought the game. So without any breakdown I don’t think I believe that number yet.
I had a few friends that was unironically happy that the Failguard had that amount of players on launch and was beating the so called "chuds" who was usimg every excuse in the book to say it failed. I let it play out for a few days haha
Blame the gamers for not supporting something that doesn't speak to them, blaming companies and journalist? Nah they are the good guys LUL.
the people that use the word fascist as an insult are literally the definition of fascists... its wild to me
- It's your fault as a youtuber/streamer to tell the truth
- It's your fault as a gamer to agree with the truth
1984 is supposed to be a warning, not a guidebook
A warning is a step by step guide to a predator.
"These people are so worried about the moral grandstanding." Hit the nail on the head
Journalists of all types seem to have forgotten they are supposed to be reporting what people are thinking not how people should think.
well the modern mantra of journalism and communication is literally to "influence and change behaviors" not to simply report or review.
I love when journalists talk about other peoples views like they're nothing when their articles usually can't break past fringe minority status.
Even Jason, who's relatively famous in the scene, probably can't break 5 figures consistently and definitely doesn't break 6 consistently.
For estimates, bloomberg, the whole site, gets around 45 million views a month, and posts 300 articles a day... that averages to 5000 views an article.
The crazy thing is that Veilguard could have just made Taash bisexual and no one would have cared. Nothing about the character really screams "non-binary" but more like they wanted her to be a masculine woman that likes both men and women. Thats called a lesbian. This whole thing came about because one dev self inserted their mental illness into the game.
one look at the character and you can tell its one of those
they wouldnt have cared either if they used the word that they came up with themselves that the qunari use. taash's mom suggested that maybe she is like that, and she is exactly just like that. it would have made sense. but the word non-binary alone is ridiculously immersion breaking and stupid, because the word quite literally comes from the binary system where everything is ones and zeroes. non-binary suggests that the person doesnt fit into ones or zeroes neither, those representing men and women obviously. the binary system was invented in the 1700s, which is centuries later than the medieval ages where the dragon age fantasy world is very obviously based upon, and the concept of gender identity was discovered in the 1960s. there is absolutely zero plausible universe where the existence of the word "non-binary" would make any lick of sense in a medieval fantasy world.
i really really hope failguard win the game of the year. once it win youtube could dismantle it entirely and shows that the whole gaming journalism thing is a fraud and remove any trace of credibility it had left basically stringing it up to dry.
with SOTE might be hard but possible with how journalist glazing on flopguard really hard
Didn't it already happen with TLoU2? Though i guess today more people opened their eyes.
"The more you enable these people the more power they gain until they become a default". That actually sounds like what the mind virus has been doing all along.
The audience is never the issue. The audience is the industry. Without an audience, nobody gives a shit about the company, their morals, their quality... none of it matters without the audience. We are the industry.
Harambe -> Gamer gate -> Trump -> attack gamers to change political landscape -> fail. That's pretty much the logic they are operating on
Peanuts -> Gamer gate 2 -> Trump 2025 (electric bungaloo) -> attack gamers to change political landscape (DLC: identity politics expansion) -> fail again. These people never learn
We vote with our wallets.
6:29 Well, I don't check IGN, Kotaku, or Polygon at all. Not hard to imagine that world. Quite easy, actually.
Same. I don't even know who these people are, apart from what I see in these videos. It's a bliss
I honestly didn't know they still existed, except for Polygon, because I didn't know they existed in the first place.
Only 10% of gamers fans voices matter in "The Game Awards" or how I like to call them: "The Journalist and Game Company Awards".
If a gamer is in that 10%, he automatically loses the status or a gamer
Worse part is game awards couldve easily shut that down by putting wukong but damnn its way more corrupt than i thought
Like the Oscars, its just an industry congratulating itself. Nothing more.
@@christianalanwilson434 Yes, it reminds me of that one Obama giving himself the gold medal MEME 😂
@@Habib-Ithe nominations haven’t been announced yet.
The big problem that some of these revieing sites have is they are not fully transparent in how they review the games and some say they use the same criteria for an indie game and a AAA game. It's like reviewing a family car on the same criteria as a sports car.
Stop. Noticing.
- Thanks from the ADL
Hard to notice some one thinks pepe is hateful conduct..
well well well
Every single time
I would say that this is far more likely the types at SBI and their ilk... the reign bow maphia and especially the femma-not-sees.
In fact, the *actual* small hats would be quite opposed to a lot of this crap, too.
This is coming from exactly the kind that you'd expect to see with strangely colored hair... and others with very... ah... flexible wrists... and attending "pallie" demonstrations... and hosting The View... or programs on the MSNPC channel.
@@Nyet-Zdyes youre clueless mate. not-sees? hilariously out of touch