HOORAAAAY! At last!… a normal down-to-earth look at the XF605, by someone who uses these types of camera, knows his stuff, and not just some boring vibeless salesman geek, reading off a load of specs, or some hipster mirrorless millennials, who haven't got a clue about the camcorder form factor. Props!… ✊🏿
Great review and thanks for that! It's funny to me that you think of the camcorder as the "new way" to shoot corporate / event work ... that's been the standard for years before low-price cinema cams and dslr's capable of doing nice video! I never made the leap over to removeable-lens gear due to all the research, extra costs and futzing on set involved - I went from the XL-1 to the XH-A1, to HMC-150 and now a UX-90. At the higher end it was 3/4" and BetaCam / XDcam etc until recently... This XF605 might be my next cam, thanks for the info.
Today I just looked for the XF405, and I think, it just has been discontinued. There are no Canon resellers, who still sell the XF400 or XF405 here in Germany.
here appreciate the shooting of the canon GX10, there, starting from 3 minutes, there will be different focal lengths, there are also several landscape shots th-cam.com/video/mgctxBFWpgw/w-d-xo.html
We do a lot of filming in the dark using infrared nightvision, if you would like us to test the camera under these conditions feel free to contact us 👍
Great video, thank you. I have a question in all humility. At 8:46, why are you at f11? I'd love to see this shot iris wide open. Also, at 8:53 you are at f6.7 with 1/4nd. Seems pointless to gain up when you still have those items to open up with to keep from gaining up so much. Thank you.
To be completely honest with you, while I had the flagship XF305 HD camera, I upgraded to Panasonic DVX200 4K camera. Then, when I compared the DVX200 with the new Canon XF705 and 605, I was disappointed because the Canon XF705 and 605, at the exact same ISO settings, was literally twice as dark as the Panasonic. I’m not sure why…
did you keep the XF605? I too want to replace my XF305...was the XF605 better in dim light than the XF305? The canon XF605 is quite expensive...but what other options with 1" sensors are out there? a true camcorder I mean...Thanks
@@TheFandangovideoguy I did not keep the XF605. I purchased the Panasonic DVX200 which was twice as bright as the Canon with identical gain settings so that is the camera I recommend to buy. Unfortunately it is discontinued so you might find some available on eBay. If you must buy a new camcorder, I would still choose the XF605 because of its 15x zoom lens.
@@asafblasbergvideographer hmmm...I was hoping to get good news! I own the XF300 and also a XF100 and with stage lighting (I live events-dances etc), they are ok...HD only but very few clients need 4k...however when the lighting is dimmer (like in a Wedding reception or a dark church) they don't perform that well...I own a C100 mk2 with a Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 and I have used it for some parts of events but it's not a true run and gun camera, however the results are great. And finally I own a Canon 90d 7 Sony a6400 with good lenses and they are better in low ligh but, sometimes a camcorder is the right tool for the job. The XF300 has an 18x zoom and that has been very helpful. I almost bought a Canon XF400 but it's not a real XF camera-lacking external controls I need. I get paid to do jobs! I can't afford the XF705 and its too big anyways. I need it to be more portable so that I can put it on a monopod if neeed. Not just on a tripod. So I guess you didn't like the XF605-I wish I could rent one at VISTEK Toronto but they only have the XF705. I have seen some samples on youtube (some really bad ones shot by bad videographers and other videos looking really good-I guess C-Log and heave colour grading)-I even joined a XF705 facebook group where most owners are really enthusiastic about the camera-someone even told me that the XF605 could be pushed to 15db gain and that would be as clean as the XF300 at 0db...that would be great! But your experience was not as good it seems. I think my issue is the price! Honestly...$6,299 cdn plus tax (and Canon Japan has announced that there will be a 10% hike!)...almost the price of a C70 which again is not a camcorder but a great cinema camera...hell...for that price I could get two Sony FX30 maybe! BUT a good camcorder can be the right tool for some jobs. Anyway.'I'm talking too much...the DVX2000 is a 13Xzoom...do you do live events? I'd love to see a video shot with the DVX2000 by a fellow videographer. I know youtube is not the best quality but still...I dunno..if the XF605 was cheaper I may go for it right away! Thanks for your response- Oh..I think I see a DVX2000 used for sale for $3,000 cdn Here is a sample of the live events I do... th-cam.com/video/gHLpcgd54Y8/w-d-xo.html
@@TheFandangovideoguy Yeah I hear your frustrations. Honestly I think the XF605 is still your best option. I do live events just like you. The DVX200 is sharper than the XF605/XF705, but you can adjust sharpness in post production if you like.
@@asafblasbergvideographer yeah...if only it was a little cheaper! Did you find the XF605 generally better than the XF305? Full HD, dim light etc...that's my main concern. Sharpness can be adjusted later....some lumetri and footage pops up! Thanks
This camcorder looks great… But can it really compete in image quality against the DVX-200 with their micro 4/3 sensor? I ask this because I’m torn between the two
Sorry bout coming in so late after this review, looking into a pro camcorder.. Looking at your samples the image seems a bit on the greenish blue side. I assume this is straight out of the box,, auto white balance… Have you found that post adjustment is necessary with this cam? As a comparison I’ve used the Sony z90 and out of the box the image is quite good, no adjustments. Do you still recommend this camera?
It looks like an awesome camera for documentary purposes... but I just wish they could have upped the size of the sensor a bit more; maybe M43 or APS-C.
It's an interesting point. If that was done the 15x lens would be triple the size. With these cameras it's all about the body size and usability. Laws of physics is always going to restrict how big things get.
@@barrygriffin5609 Yep, that'd be a lot of glass to carry around! It's definitely on my list of possible cameras for fly-on-the-wall doc stuff, along with a couple of others like the Panasonic S1H and Sony FX3... both with full-frame sensors.
Yeah, for sure I would have this as a docu setup all day long. I guess with that the optics, processing and price would jump up a step too. I think for the category its a good middle ground
@@bobbygoulding2124 Yeah, it ticks nearly all of my boxes for docu purposes... although I'd quite like a C300 MKIII or C500 MKII... IF I had the budget for that :)
Thanks a lot for this video. It's very usefull to me. I haven't decide yet if I should buy a few of this one or a few of Panasonic CX350. We need some cameras for broadcasting and we use the NDI protocol of Newtek, but we record some Live Sessions sometimes too, so I don´t know. What do you recommend?? :/
If the price will be " affordable " (?? ) , I will buy one ( I had many Canon's before .... I had all the XL1 to XL H1 S series Canon's several moons ago ) ..... but in the meantime I will plugging around with my Sony HXR NX 80 dinky
Each to their own I would say. In my experience, ergonmics, practicality, ease etc have often proven more powerful tools in my belt as a film-maker than framerates / resolution have
Fantastic overview...I want to replace my old XF300 and XF100...and I need a camcorder for live events and concerts and even weddings! I have a C100 mk2 with decent glass for corporate and music videos (along with a Canon 90D) but they are not exactly run and gun...not really and I'm used to my xf300 for live events and concerts...whatever I buy MUST have 4k (even if I shoot mostly in 1080p)...so I looked at the XF400 but it wasn't a real XF camcorder...more like a consumer camera...and the XF705 is too much money for me...so this 605 looks promising..even with the 1" sensor...did you ever use the XF300? would this 605 be a lot better in low light and in 1080p than the XF300? Panasonic makes some nice 4k camcorders but they have tiny sensors...this 1" sensor may be a good compromise...any chance you could compare the video quality in good and low light against your C300 mk2? just wondering...thanks for the video...
I bought 3 to replace the xf300's - biggest thing is the low light performance - I actually still love the 300's but I could never go past +6db without the picture looking bad... you can really push this camera - only thing that stinks is the cost of the new batteries that you need to run for 3 hrs at a time... and you need UHS II cards if you are shooting in 4k60 - which is why I like this - what else on the market lets you shoot in either Long GOP or Intra in 4K60 for the price?
@@mediacreationsusa thanks so much for the response. My XF300 is great with good lighting but I never went over +9db for videos-and the XF100 is even worse in low light of course. So, it's good to hear that the XF605 is better in low light and it uses affordable memory cards but the battery is insanely expensive! $420 US!! ouch... I have seen a few more videos showing footage shot with the XF605 but I'm not convinced those people knew how to use it...I use my cameras fully manual and only leave the autofocus active, but some videos I have seen have been shot with the camera set to Auto I'm sure...substandard results...will you be posting any more videos feauring footage (after grading etc) shot with the XF605? You are a pro and I'm sure your videos will show just how good this camera can be. If you can share a link, great...if not, no worries. Thanks
@@TheFandangovideoguy I use full manual too - yes, the 605 is actually even better than the 705 in low light - I almost bought the 705s when they came out but I couldn't justify $7K per camera since I wanted to have 3 so I could perfectly match everything in post - don't get me wrong the 605 is not peanuts for sure, but the big thing that sold me was the low light performance and the way in which they approached all the different shooting modes and codecs - you can shoot in 4K and in 1080 at the same time if you want to. - I was actually planning on doing a comparison video with this and the XA50 and the XF300 - I don't own a 400 nor a 705 but I think it would still be something useful. - I'll post it on my own channel when I do it 🙂
@@Mediaman67 you got 3 XF605...wow..but really for live events/broadcast is always best to get the same model to make sure they match in post...I tried matching the XF300 and the XF100 and I got close but sometimes nope...I think the XF605 is promising but I must confess is pricey...I looked at the Panasonic AG-CX10 4k camera and reviewers complain about the poor low light performance-it has a tiny sensor- I want something REALLY BETTER than my XF300- for extreme low light I have a C100 mk2 with a Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 and other lenses that really work in low light but not easy to use for concerts/performances etc where a camcorder is more suitable. I know some guys use mirrorless cameras for everything and get amazing results but I don't-run and gun is something else. Hey I would be interested in seeing a comparison between the XF605 and the XF300 and the XA50...I never cared for the XF400 (a fake XF camera! LOL!)...pretty pls...I'll send you some Tim Horton timbits from Canada! LOL! Thanks a lot! PS I looked at your channel...didnt see anything shot with the XF605. maybe soon.
@@TheFandangovideoguy not yet I just got them about a month ago - yes on all the same cam - I have 5 xf300's for that reason - I shot an event in Dec with my xa50 and it matched pretty well with my older G40 - I really like the xa50 with the 1 inch sensor too but I love 4k60 so much vs 4k30 - but they are great for a nice little compact set up, which was the reason I got the xf605's - people that use mirrorless cameras for events are taking chances in my opinion if it's long form and you are limited with audio and other things - I love some of the sony mirrorless cameras for sure, but only for stills and short form stuff - with one XF605 - you can have 4 xlr channels all at the same time or 2 on the camera as it is and 2 more from either the built in or the 3.5 jack... I know other cameras can do that too, but I am the first to post short comings on cameras... Canon nailed the auto focus with these now and I still like their color science the best... there are gonna be trade offs with everything of course too - like the lenses f/2.8 app, and it's not constant until you get to f/4.8 but the cleaner gain makes up for that. Clog3 has like 12 stops of dynamic range or something... so, you really can have a fool proof camera. - my biggest hurdle now is a faster computer :-)
In most cases it is not possible to choose a camera based on one attribute. You have to consider how each of them relates to the spread of your usage cases. If great low light UHD performance is your single requirement - there are likely to be others though - then although the XF605 is better than the 705 in this regard then a so called 1 inch sensor (really approx. 16 mm - 5/8 inch - diagonal ) is probably not for you. If you want great auto focus and manual assist, high quality 'L' series glass, decent zoom range, good ergonomics, down sampled HD etc etc then maybe it is the one you want. It's a case of horses for courses.
there is something I can't do with a cell phone that is easy to do with some camcorders. no one ever plays with controlls showing them how they can be adjusted in camera. then it would be a tutorial?, no. if you were just messing around a little take standard scene and mess with RGB randomly. mess with black level randomly. playing with that stuff is the fun in it for everyone who doesn't play with them for a living.
Thanks for the video. I never mess with "the gain" feature on a camera, because it makes the footage look grainy. Is there a way to fix that in editing so that the audience can't tell? Another important question.... Is it safe to assume that this camera is not good in low-light situations without using the gain boost? Thanks.
i get suggested a billion reviews of xf605. all are the same, talking specs, showing images of the camera. Either No fotage at all or as in this case, rapidly 30min walking outside filming whatever. I suspect all these videos are secretly sponsored. I think these reviews are bullshit.
Crappy old technology… The Sony A1 blows it out of the water in every possible way. 1 inch sensor? What the hell is that? You spend way too much time talking about the unimportant… Just got a flippy door that opens and closes to protect the lens… That’s a real reason to run out and get it. This whole video feels like a commercial for the camera. You sure you’re not being paid ?
Hey Allen, I'm not much for putting down any form of technology that allows people to create. I am most interested in how people use cameras practically. I also cant imagine using 5-6 Sony A1 setups for a multi-cam environment. I think its wise to consider merits of equipment that aren't just numbers on a spec sheet. That flappy door might just save your front lens element when your in transit, on the presumption that you have experienced losing a lens cap! Thank you for your input though, very insightful.
@@catmate8358 Its an everything camera. It does it all at the highest level of technology. It'll make the Canon 605 look like it was made in 1990. Picture quality wise. Look up the reviews on line. Especially Gerald Undone. Also, check out the soon to be released Nikon Z9.
Great Video. Really interesting. This has alot of similarities (cosmetically) to the Sony HVR - Z5 / Z7. Can I come and do some voluntary work with you in 2022 :) Subbed.
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HOORAAAAY! At last!… a normal down-to-earth look at the XF605, by someone who uses these types of camera, knows his stuff, and not just some boring vibeless salesman geek, reading off a load of specs, or some hipster mirrorless millennials, who haven't got a clue about the camcorder form factor. Props!… ✊🏿
😂 Shots at ProAV?
@@Baldcafe YEP!… You done know!… 🤣
Ah man that's so nice to hear, I am glad you apricate it
Haha, hipster mirrorless millennials... love it!
@@Zaporozhe53 so true! these hipsters think that the origins of video production begins with sony alpha series LOL
Great review and thanks for that! It's funny to me that you think of the camcorder as the "new way" to shoot corporate / event work ... that's been the standard for years before low-price cinema cams and dslr's capable of doing nice video! I never made the leap over to removeable-lens gear due to all the research, extra costs and futzing on set involved - I went from the XL-1 to the XH-A1, to HMC-150 and now a UX-90. At the higher end it was 3/4" and BetaCam / XDcam etc until recently... This XF605 might be my next cam, thanks for the info.
Super helpful and full of the kind of information that I find most useful. Thanks for the effort!
A pleasure man, glad it was useful 🙏
Nice review, you answered the h265 h264 question no one else did.
Thank you, yeah as a regular XF 705 user it was something very important to me
This guys off the chain
Thanks my guy!! X
Very down to earth which is what people want.People want reality and not sales bs
Thanks David, I tell it how it is! :)
Today I just looked for the XF405, and I think, it just has been discontinued.
There are no Canon resellers, who still sell the XF400 or XF405 here in Germany.
I read there is a shortage caused by a factory fire
None in the USA either, It is not listed for sale on the Canon website.
here appreciate the shooting of the canon GX10, there, starting from 3 minutes, there will be different focal lengths, there are also several landscape shots
th-cam.com/video/mgctxBFWpgw/w-d-xo.html
Great video, new subscriber from Texas tonight! Well done…
Hey man!! Really apricated thank you so much
thanks for the video @bobby! @5:07 color grade is off. doesnt take anything away from the video though.
very good camera. we change all existing S brand camcorder to XF605
We do a lot of filming in the dark using infrared nightvision, if you would like us to test the camera under these conditions feel free to contact us 👍
Great down to earth review 👌
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it
Useful info, thank you
great review, thanks a lot for this!
Great review. Thanks for the info.
thanks for sharing very useful video ! cheers from Mexico !
My pleasure man! Glad it was useful to you :)
Great video, thank you. I have a question in all humility. At 8:46, why are you at f11? I'd love to see this shot iris wide open. Also, at 8:53 you are at f6.7 with 1/4nd. Seems pointless to gain up when you still have those items to open up with to keep from gaining up so much. Thank you.
this is a documentary filmmaker's dream!
Yes I really think so!
Great video!! I love the shots of London 😘
Thank you my love 💓
Well done Brother !
To be completely honest with you, while I had the flagship XF305 HD camera, I upgraded to Panasonic DVX200 4K camera. Then, when I compared the DVX200 with the new Canon XF705 and 605, I was disappointed because the Canon XF705 and 605, at the exact same ISO settings, was literally twice as dark as the Panasonic. I’m not sure why…
did you keep the XF605? I too want to replace my XF305...was the XF605 better in dim light than the XF305? The canon XF605 is quite expensive...but what other options with 1" sensors are out there? a true camcorder I mean...Thanks
@@TheFandangovideoguy I did not keep the XF605. I purchased the Panasonic DVX200 which was twice as bright as the Canon with identical gain settings so that is the camera I recommend to buy. Unfortunately it is discontinued so you might find some available on eBay. If you must buy a new camcorder, I would still choose the XF605 because of its 15x zoom lens.
@@asafblasbergvideographer hmmm...I was hoping to get good news! I own the XF300 and also a XF100 and with stage lighting (I live events-dances etc), they are ok...HD only but very few clients need 4k...however when the lighting is dimmer (like in a Wedding reception or a dark church) they don't perform that well...I own a C100 mk2 with a Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 and I have used it for some parts of events but it's not a true run and gun camera, however the results are great. And finally I own a Canon 90d 7 Sony a6400 with good lenses and they are better in low ligh but, sometimes a camcorder is the right tool for the job. The XF300 has an 18x zoom and that has been very helpful. I almost bought a Canon XF400 but it's not a real XF camera-lacking external controls I need. I get paid to do jobs! I can't afford the XF705 and its too big anyways. I need it to be more portable so that I can put it on a monopod if neeed. Not just on a tripod. So I guess you didn't like the XF605-I wish I could rent one at VISTEK Toronto but they only have the XF705. I have seen some samples on youtube (some really bad ones shot by bad videographers and other videos looking really good-I guess C-Log and heave colour grading)-I even joined a XF705 facebook group where most owners are really enthusiastic about the camera-someone even told me that the XF605 could be pushed to 15db gain and that would be as clean as the XF300 at 0db...that would be great! But your experience was not as good it seems. I think my issue is the price! Honestly...$6,299 cdn plus tax (and Canon Japan has announced that there will be a 10% hike!)...almost the price of a C70 which again is not a camcorder but a great cinema camera...hell...for that price I could get two Sony FX30 maybe! BUT a good camcorder can be the right tool for some jobs. Anyway.'I'm talking too much...the DVX2000 is a 13Xzoom...do you do live events? I'd love to see a video shot with the DVX2000 by a fellow videographer. I know youtube is not the best quality but still...I dunno..if the XF605 was cheaper I may go for it right away! Thanks for your response-
Oh..I think I see a DVX2000 used for sale for $3,000 cdn
Here is a sample of the live events I do...
th-cam.com/video/gHLpcgd54Y8/w-d-xo.html
@@TheFandangovideoguy Yeah I hear your frustrations. Honestly I think the XF605 is still your best option. I do live events just like you. The DVX200 is sharper than the XF605/XF705, but you can adjust sharpness in post production if you like.
@@asafblasbergvideographer yeah...if only it was a little cheaper! Did you find the XF605 generally better than the XF305? Full HD, dim light etc...that's my main concern. Sharpness can be adjusted later....some lumetri and footage pops up! Thanks
This camcorder looks great…
But can it really compete in image quality against the DVX-200 with their micro 4/3 sensor?
I ask this because I’m torn between the two
I'm in the same boat!
I have DVX200. Get DVX, you’ll get a much brighter image and sharper lens :)
Is there a record time limit?
Are you able to create a useable shallow depth of field when filming?
Is the handle rotatable?
Sorry bout coming in so late after this review, looking into a pro camcorder..
Looking at your samples the image seems a bit on the greenish blue side. I assume this is straight out of the box,, auto white balance…
Have you found that post adjustment is necessary with this cam? As a comparison I’ve used the Sony z90 and out of the box the image is quite good, no adjustments.
Do you still recommend this camera?
It looks like an awesome camera for documentary purposes... but I just wish they could have upped the size of the sensor a bit more; maybe M43 or APS-C.
It's an interesting point. If that was done the 15x lens would be triple the size. With these cameras it's all about the body size and usability. Laws of physics is always going to restrict how big things get.
If you look at the Canon CN10X25 lens that's designed for S35 sensors it will give you an idea 😊
@@barrygriffin5609 Yep, that'd be a lot of glass to carry around! It's definitely on my list of possible cameras for fly-on-the-wall doc stuff, along with a couple of others like the Panasonic S1H and Sony FX3... both with full-frame sensors.
Yeah, for sure I would have this as a docu setup all day long. I guess with that the optics, processing and price would jump up a step too. I think for the category its a good middle ground
@@bobbygoulding2124 Yeah, it ticks nearly all of my boxes for docu purposes... although I'd quite like a C300 MKIII or C500 MKII... IF I had the budget for that :)
Thanks a lot for this video. It's very usefull to me.
I haven't decide yet if I should buy a few of this one or a few of Panasonic CX350.
We need some cameras for broadcasting and we use the NDI protocol of Newtek, but we record some Live Sessions sometimes too, so I don´t know.
What do you recommend?? :/
Excuse me，Do you know when i use PP HLG, why does not have autofocus square point display ? thx....
If the price will be " affordable " (?? ) , I will buy one ( I had many Canon's before .... I had all the XL1 to XL H1 S series Canon's several moons ago ) ..... but in the meantime I will plugging around with my Sony HXR NX 80 dinky
Just keep shooting with what you have, in fact I just brought a 5DMkii again, what I first started on. I think I am just camera obsessed!!
@@bobbygoulding2124 ..... Just get a email from a Canon dealer ....shocking. Price of NZ $9500 . ....see you later Canon
I think that all sleepyheads shoot worse than Canon GX10, but overall good, i like sony cameras too
Any good for filming fast moving aircraft handheld ?
I don't understand your issue with proprietary H.265. HEVC has been out for 9 ½ years and is not proprietary. What's the difficulty with it?
Great video, thank You. Best regards, Kai the bee filmer ;)
Can this camera be used in cooking videos?? Thanks
is it better than my canon vixia HF M500?
How is this Kamera comparable to Sony fx6?
Trank you from Germany.
Hi Bobby ! Have you heard of the Panasonic CX350?
Why would anyone choose a mirrorless camera over one of these? Outside of rigging it has many features those cameras have.
Each to their own I would say. In my experience, ergonmics, practicality, ease etc have often proven more powerful tools in my belt as a film-maker than framerates / resolution have
Hi bro,
Sony PXW-Z190 vs Canon XF605. Which is better?
605
Fantastic overview...I want to replace my old XF300 and XF100...and I need a camcorder for live events and concerts and even weddings! I have a C100 mk2 with decent glass for corporate and music videos (along with a Canon 90D) but they are not exactly run and gun...not really and I'm used to my xf300 for live events and concerts...whatever I buy MUST have 4k (even if I shoot mostly in 1080p)...so I looked at the XF400 but it wasn't a real XF camcorder...more like a consumer camera...and the XF705 is too much money for me...so this 605 looks promising..even with the 1" sensor...did you ever use the XF300? would this 605 be a lot better in low light and in 1080p than the XF300? Panasonic makes some nice 4k camcorders but they have tiny sensors...this 1" sensor may be a good compromise...any chance you could compare the video quality in good and low light against your C300 mk2? just wondering...thanks for the video...
I bought 3 to replace the xf300's - biggest thing is the low light performance - I actually still love the 300's but I could never go past +6db without the picture looking bad... you can really push this camera - only thing that stinks is the cost of the new batteries that you need to run for 3 hrs at a time... and you need UHS II cards if you are shooting in 4k60 - which is why I like this - what else on the market lets you shoot in either Long GOP or Intra in 4K60 for the price?
@@mediacreationsusa thanks so much for the response. My XF300 is great with good lighting but I never went over +9db for videos-and the XF100 is even worse in low light of course. So, it's good to hear that the XF605 is better in low light and it uses affordable memory cards but the battery is insanely expensive! $420 US!! ouch... I have seen a few more videos showing footage shot with the XF605 but I'm not convinced those people knew how to use it...I use my cameras fully manual and only leave the autofocus active, but some videos I have seen have been shot with the camera set to Auto I'm sure...substandard results...will you be posting any more videos feauring footage (after grading etc) shot with the XF605? You are a pro and I'm sure your videos will show just how good this camera can be. If you can share a link, great...if not, no worries. Thanks
@@TheFandangovideoguy I use full manual too - yes, the 605 is actually even better than the 705 in low light - I almost bought the 705s when they came out but I couldn't justify $7K per camera since I wanted to have 3 so I could perfectly match everything in post - don't get me wrong the 605 is not peanuts for sure, but the big thing that sold me was the low light performance and the way in which they approached all the different shooting modes and codecs - you can shoot in 4K and in 1080 at the same time if you want to. - I was actually planning on doing a comparison video with this and the XA50 and the XF300 - I don't own a 400 nor a 705 but I think it would still be something useful. - I'll post it on my own channel when I do it 🙂
@@Mediaman67 you got 3 XF605...wow..but really for live events/broadcast is always best to get the same model to make sure they match in post...I tried matching the XF300 and the XF100 and I got close but sometimes nope...I think the XF605 is promising but I must confess is pricey...I looked at the Panasonic AG-CX10 4k camera and reviewers complain about the poor low light performance-it has a tiny sensor- I want something REALLY BETTER than my XF300- for extreme low light I have a C100 mk2 with a Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 and other lenses that really work in low light but not easy to use for concerts/performances etc where a camcorder is more suitable. I know some guys use mirrorless cameras for everything and get amazing results but I don't-run and gun is something else. Hey I would be interested in seeing a comparison between the XF605 and the XF300 and the XA50...I never cared for the XF400 (a fake XF camera! LOL!)...pretty pls...I'll send you some Tim Horton timbits from Canada! LOL! Thanks a lot! PS I looked at your channel...didnt see anything shot with the XF605. maybe soon.
@@TheFandangovideoguy not yet I just got them about a month ago - yes on all the same cam - I have 5 xf300's for that reason - I shot an event in Dec with my xa50 and it matched pretty well with my older G40 - I really like the xa50 with the 1 inch sensor too but I love 4k60 so much vs 4k30 - but they are great for a nice little compact set up, which was the reason I got the xf605's - people that use mirrorless cameras for events are taking chances in my opinion if it's long form and you are limited with audio and other things - I love some of the sony mirrorless cameras for sure, but only for stills and short form stuff - with one XF605 - you can have 4 xlr channels all at the same time or 2 on the camera as it is and 2 more from either the built in or the 3.5 jack... I know other cameras can do that too, but I am the first to post short comings on cameras... Canon nailed the auto focus with these now and I still like their color science the best... there are gonna be trade offs with everything of course too - like the lenses f/2.8 app, and it's not constant until you get to f/4.8 but the cleaner gain makes up for that. Clog3 has like 12 stops of dynamic range or something... so, you really can have a fool proof camera. - my biggest hurdle now is a faster computer :-)
In most cases it is not possible to choose a camera based on one attribute. You have to consider how each of them relates to the spread of your usage cases. If great low light UHD performance is your single requirement - there are likely to be others though - then although the XF605 is better than the 705 in this regard then a so called 1 inch sensor (really approx. 16 mm - 5/8 inch - diagonal ) is probably not for you. If you want great auto focus and manual assist, high quality 'L' series glass, decent zoom range, good ergonomics, down sampled HD etc etc then maybe it is the one you want. It's a case of horses for courses.
Your upload here is HD, we can't see any 4k action.
Great video, did you find out how good or bad the XF605 is in low light say compared with my camera the Sony FS5
The FS5 is way better in low light, FS5 have much bigger sensor and diferent technology
Must say its not a camera I would jump into a lowlight heavy production with, but haven't used the FS5 so couldn't comment on that
@@armin23405 depending on what you need to shoot in low light
The camera looks soft and I see some lens breathing???
Tiny Sensor and thus a bad rolling shutter..? No way!
It looks perfect but soo expensive.
there is something I can't do with a cell phone that is easy to do with some camcorders. no one ever plays with controlls showing them how they can be adjusted in camera. then it would be a tutorial?, no. if you were just messing around a little take standard scene and mess with RGB randomly. mess with black level randomly. playing with that stuff is the fun in it for everyone who doesn't play with them for a living.
Does Sony have a real competitor model for the XF605?
not in this price range
Price
Video too dark. Turn on some lights.
Thanks for the video. I never mess with "the gain" feature on a camera, because it makes the footage look grainy. Is there a way to fix that in editing so that the audience can't tell? Another important question.... Is it safe to assume that this camera is not good in low-light situations without using the gain boost? Thanks.
pretty sure that's a stereophonic microphone by the looks of it.
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What were the specs on the test footage if you remember? Wide DR or Log? Thanks. Thinking about getting one as a B cam to my C70.
Hey Scottie! It was shot LOG3, but only in 8 bit as I didn't have an SDXC card with me
Sony Z280 is better? lens is 1.9 in all the range.
Indian price ??
can you plug in a SSD for storage?
So it is a Sony Z1..
Basically.
i get suggested a billion reviews of xf605. all are the same, talking specs, showing images of the camera. Either No fotage at all or as in this case, rapidly 30min walking outside filming whatever. I suspect all these videos are secretly sponsored. I think these reviews are bullshit.
Crappy old technology… The Sony A1 blows it out of the water in every possible way. 1 inch sensor? What the hell is that? You spend way too much time talking about the unimportant… Just got a flippy door that opens and closes to protect the lens… That’s a real reason to run out and get it. This whole video feels like a commercial for the camera. You sure you’re not being paid ?
Hey Allen, I'm not much for putting down any form of technology that allows people to create. I am most interested in how people use cameras practically. I also cant imagine using 5-6 Sony A1 setups for a multi-cam environment. I think its wise to consider merits of equipment that aren't just numbers on a spec sheet. That flappy door might just save your front lens element when your in transit, on the presumption that you have experienced losing a lens cap! Thank you for your input though, very insightful.
dude you are completely not versed in cameras or filming, shoot on your sloppy sony a1 further
@@csamd9049 If you say so DUDE!
Sony A1? Is it a still camera?
@@catmate8358 Its an everything camera. It does it all at the highest level of technology. It'll make the Canon 605 look like it was made in 1990. Picture quality wise. Look up the reviews on line. Especially Gerald Undone. Also, check out the soon to be released Nikon Z9.
Great Video. Really interesting.
This has alot of similarities (cosmetically) to the Sony HVR - Z5 / Z7.
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