REWATCH! The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) - Andrew Garfield, Emma Stone - The Big Thing
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- The Amazing Spider-Man came out in 2012 and was the first movie with Andrew Garfield playing the famous web crawler. It was just 5 years after Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 3 and was done so Sony did not lose the rights. It was a different take on the lore and Emma Stone and Dennis Leary joined the cast. Join us for this rewatch of the film and how it ties into the MCU's Spiderman, No Way Home.
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WARNING!! MASSIVE MTS PPV SPOILER TODAY IN THIS EPISODE AT 33:53. IT SPOILS THE WINNER
I'm still going to watch the match. I thought that part was so funny.
@@colinvandenberg3446 honestly, getting spoiled might be worth how funny that moment was lol
@@Im_Ish it would have been just as funny if they bleeped out the team names.
It's episodes like these that I REALLY miss Schnepp! STILL a Schweaty and proud!
Yeah he definitely would have been on these with us!
Personally these rewatches have been my favorite videos you guys have done on this channel. I would love it if you continued after you finish the Spider-Man movies.
We are doing Star Wars already on Sith Council. These rewatches with these two guys will continue with Batman for sure.
@@TheKristianHarloff can’t wait to see the Batman rewatch 🤣
These rewatches are my favourite thing on this channel. Please never stop them.
Thank you! Matrix and Batman going to happen.
Could you imagine if Coy and Marc Bernardin wrote a story together. That shit would be beyond insane on every level possible.
I am sure!
Loving the back and forth between you guys during these rewatches!
Thank you!
Andrew Garfield was great as Spider-Man. His films got a lot wrong but the suit and his personality as Spider-Man were almost perfect to me. "Is that a real knife? My weakness, it's small knives" makes me laugh every time. My favorite quip from any Spider-Man movie
Yeah and he has great timing.
The Spider-Man suit in this movie is flawless!!!!
My favorite suit in any live-action Spider-Man product.
It is a good one!
YES!! RICHARD IN THE CRANE WITH A SLICE! Thank you Kristian. I needed that.
Love when people recognize Richard!
Love this discussion. I love the Amazing Spider-Man 2’s soundtrack! Excited to hear your thoughts on that next week!
Curious on how it will play years later!
As much as I enjoy Tom Holland's version of Spidey, a part of me really wishes that Andrew Garfield was retained as Spider-Man. Say what you will about the stories and general execution of his two entries, but I felt Andrew Garfield reeeeally captured the version of Spider-Man that I personally connect with. The complaint of him being "too cool" always rubbed me the wrong way, because I just took it as a different approach to him being essentially a social outcast, which he's always been. The definition of nerd and "what's cool" has evolved. I liked that he still had an air of confidence to him even before Spider-Man. When people say he was too cool, I question it because It's not like the world was in the palm of his hands; if he fought back, he rarely came out on top. Okay, he skateboards, but does that make him "cool?" I grew up around skateboarders, and believe me, NONE of us were at the height of the social hierarchy lol. He was still awkward and very much a loner. However, I liked that despite his awkwardness, he's still charming. It's not an "aww shucks" type thing; but he feels more like a real person, than the inept version Maguire's always came off as. I think that approach really lent well to when he's behind the mask, joking around and throwing out one-liners. And yes, the icing on the cake was his chemistry with Emma Stone's Gwen Stacy. Their romance is still my favorite of the live-action Spidey's. I love the awkward teen romance that Tom Holland's Peter has with Zendaya's MJ; but there's something very heartfelt and genuine about Garfield & Stone's Peter & Gwen.
I essentially feel the same way as you do. Well put.
I can't imagine Garfield doing the I don't feel so good thing especially since he's like a foot taller than RDJ lol.
@@Anthonycheesman33 Me neither lol. But then again, had Andrew Garfield been kept, they wouldn't have written him in such a way. Tom Holland's is meant to be roughly 14-15 years old, while Andrew Garfield's was entering college/the work-force.
@@thedefinitionisthis yes but the iron man spiderman thing wouldn't be as special with Andrew Garfield.
@@Anthonycheesman33 Yeah, but you're assuming they'd write Garfield's version with the same material as Holland's. What the MCU has really leaned into to make their Spidey unique of the 3 live-action versions so far, is that Holland's is this 14-15 year old teenager in middle school. So it makes sense that he'd be more wide-eyed, and in awe of Tony Stark. With Garfield's, I think he still would've been someone in awe of Stark, but not to the same degree of hero-worship that Holland's is, given their age difference. Considering he himself is entering college, and at that point is a more seasoned crimefighter (having experienced 2 significant losses), and just has a level of maturity that Holland's version doesn't, Garfield's version of the character might have been looked at by Stark as more of a peer, in comparison to the "babysitter" role he somewhat plays for Holland's. Someone who But hey, it's all speculative.
Hi Kristian, huge fan since pre collider. Never commented on a video before but just want to say your doing a great job. Loving the rewatches
Awesome, thank you!
my new favorite channel. love listening to Kristian and friends talk movies 👍
Love hearing that! Thank you!
Another great episode guys, i love the engery and ideas the three of you guys bring, I just wish it was more than once a week,lol. Another great addition to the channel. Cheers
More to come!
I love this movie! I like it more than the first Sam Raimi spiderman film, this I feel has a much better, serious tone and great video Kristian!
Thanks Jermaine!
This the one show I look forward to the sponsor plug! Kristian, your Tushy ads have are rolling! hahahaha Thanks!
Hahaha thank you. Did you hear the Manscaped plug on Monday's show?
@@TheKristianHarloff Absolutely. When you lose it, we fucking lose it. And it works, cause I BUY KRISTIAN! I BUY IT ALLLLL
Love this trio talking superhero movies together! I'd love for y'all to do the X-Men movies next! Fuck it, every superhero movie! Awesome work, keep it up!
Def going to do Batman!
Would you guys be up for doing a matrix rewatch aswell b4 the new one comes out cause I love all theses rewatches there fun and you guys make my days better with all the laughter and jokes, you help take my mind away from the world
We are doing Matrix, already announced. Me, Coy and Kate Mulligan will be doing them.
Avi Arad said they almost put Avengers Tower in the background of one of the cityscape shots of New York but they couldn't quite make a deal with Disney in time. We almost had Garfield as the MCU Spidey.
I think I remember that?!
Love these rewatches. Anyway we could get a rocky rewatch series sometime soon ?
Maybe once we get to Creed 3
I loved this episode!!!! I listen to it on Spotify but like and comment here, so I had the MTS Teams match spoiled for me, but I didn’t even care because it was so hilarious. Great show, love you guys.
Thanks for listening
Another good show guys can't wait until next Friday.
Thank you!
As far as the basketball thing goes, I’ll just say this: The NBA is 75 years old. In that time period, only 6 or 7 guys have broken a backboard. And none of them looked like Andrew Garfield
Hahhahaha this is great ^
LOL I would've liked to have seen a Darryl Dawkins cameo as a teacher or something, where he just looks at Peter breaking the backboard, and goes, "Amateur."
HAHAHA
1:08:42 lol lol Tobey/ Spider 🕷 Man looking at Coy’s picture. “I’m gonna throw some dirt in your eye lol”
Great show guys lol
Haha thanks
Another awesome discussion.
Thank you!
@41:47 Winston, ya right there is a lot of us, but, I think what you’re picking up on is WE LIVE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. Almost literally. So it’s rare to catch us trying to recruit. It’s like asking people to join ya life raft.
Ha nice Saul.
Dang Kristian I was literally about to watch the tag match later on today 🤣😂 but it's cool. I know it wasn't on purpose and I'm still going to watch it.
I am sorry!
What I love most about Garfield’s spiderman wa show he interacted with kids. When he’s rescuing the little boy in the car he takes off the mask to reassure him and then tells him to put on the mask because it’ll make him strong. That scene made me actually believe in spiderman and now he’s my favourite hero. That’s something hollands and Tibet’s’ haven’t done.
Yeah and when he walks the kid home from the bullies.
this episode is going to be an interesting one
Definitely fun!
One gripe I have with peoples opinion on this movie is that everyone just says it’s the same thing and they’re sick of seeing uncle Ben die a thousand times (mostly from the collider top 50 video on this). I thought they did a good job making it different from the 2002 version and we’ve only seen uncle Ben die twice on film while the Wayne’s have been killed 6 times in live action
Loving people's thoughts on these movies!
Loving these re-watches. I’ve said for a long time that Spider-man 2 is overrated (for the time it was impressive but we’ve come so far that it hasn’t aged well), and that I wish I could have Garfield’s Spider-Man in the Raimi films.
Would have been something
The parents stuff was introduced in The Amazing Spider-Man Annual #5 (1968) where they were revealed as secret agents investigating the Red Skull.
^ totally accurate ^ I was referring to them being back in his life as double agents (when I said near 400) which was where they were taking this storyline (the deleted scene/alt ending of Amazing 2 is what they were setting up here) it’s all. Very. Very. Bad haha
Oh shit! @@CoyJandreau responded to my comment. I thought you were only referring to them disappearing and the mystery behind that. But you were referring to the deleted graveyard scene with his dad tied into the whole life model decoys coming back into his life. I agree that was bad. 🤣
Yeah still don't like it haha
Another fun one.
Thank you!
21:24 yes that was just brilliant. And those were the moments where Garfield really shone. Even when he was jumping on the skateboard after getting detention and talking with Gwen Stacy, those are the moments, where Garfield's Peter really shone.
Yup!
Sony should be sponsoring you guys because I think my next movie purchase is going to be a box set of Spider-Man
Haha right?!
When Winston wants to swap his "F" word and Kristian spotlights Coy's face, his reaction is freaking priceless.
I said it before and I'll say it again, you 3 need to do a weekly episode together.
Thank you! We are definitely doing these and Batman. Kate is doing the Matrix ones with Coy and I but I was thinking in the off weeks of Rewatch, Coy and Winston could be the Friday show.
@@TheKristianHarloff that's great to hear. I'd like to also submit the Rocky series for next year. Creed 3 November 2022. Also, congrats on breaking 20k subscribers! 👏
Toby is the spiderman in my childhood
Andrew is the spiderman of my teen years
Tom is the spiderman of my adulthood
Good summary for sure!
Can Marc Andreyko be a special guest for The Amazing Spider-Man 2? He will deliver a vigorous defense of that film, and famously said it's in his Top 5 Marvel films (at the very least Top 10).
We released it today!
Andrew Garfield is by far my favorite Spider-Man. Wish he would have got his trilogy without the second movie being so bloated. I’m glad they didn’t go with mj on the start because we all know his true og love 😊
So curious how all of these movies will all tie in!
23:49 The reason Flash comes outta nowhere and tries to talk to Peter, is cuz he apparently also lost people and thats why hes a bully... He tells him "feels good right?" right after Peter shoves him on the locker... Its Flash telling Peter thats why hes a bully cuz he lost people too and he was trying to tell Peter that Flash can be there if he needs anything. But Peter didnt want any of it. This Flash is also better than any other Flash.
Def an underrated Flash
This movie is pretty good, I was never a fan of the parent story-line, I remember that coming up in other spider-man things I've consumed and just never feels right. My experience with Spider-man and Peter Parker, back in the late 80s and 90s, the Peter I grew up with was picked on and an outcast, before the powers had no confidence to stand up to someone, these are the experiences I had, back in the day I got picked on for even liking spider-man. I don't mind the Peter in this movie that much, to fit a newer generation, I feel he skates the line of being a bit to "cool". In the 2nd movie is my bigger issue with the to cool Peter, in the 1st movie it still works for me and the interactions with Flash.
I liked they used the Lizard, I do kinda wish he had a bigger snout like I'm use to but I understand why they went the way they did and its grown on me. Gwen is way better then MJ in any of Raimi movies, like her story-line and her dad. If you did mix the best parts of this movie and the best parts of the first Raimi movie you would get a pretty damn good first Spider-Man movie, though personally Homecoming is my favourite spider-man movie despite its MCU connection I just love watching it and one of the rare movies I've watched 2 times in a row.
Yeah lots of good but a lot of eh
Was the Josh Macuga Tobey Maguire interview removed? Really wanted to watch it after all the actor talk 😂
Yeah it was, Josh asked us to take it down.
By far my favorite episode! Love talking about the multiverse and different reality! P.s mysterio is still alive. Take care yall.
Thank you!
Sony really trying to screw up what marvel could do with the spider man catalog of characters is so unbelievably frustrating
We will see what they do next~
23:28 The moment Peter becomes a hero is when he rescues that kid and he sees that father and son reunited... REMEMBER, THIS MOVIE IS ABOUT A TEENAGER LOOKING FOR HIS PARENTS... Thats when he becomes a hero cuz at that point, he was looking for the killer of his uncle Ben. Thats the only reason he made a suit, to find him and not leave any clue. Until the lizard appears and that kid is stuck in a car. This movie is great
I enjoy it.
Technically about the Venom 2 credit scene, Venom is in the MCU. So saying Tom's Spider-Man will be in the Sony universe doesn't make sense at the moment because if anything it looks like sony's universe is entering the MCU. with vulture in Morbius, and now venom transported into the MCU.
Is that a fact?
One thing I’ll push back on: Comic MJ was not a horrible person. She was an independent, take no shit, not someone who would wait around pining for Peter. She was far closer to a Louis Lane type than what we got in the Raimi Films.
Yeah we were talking about her in the movies.
@@TheKristianHarloff Oh yeah, in the movies MJ, Peter and Harry are all just horrible people. Honestly, recast Closer and put Dunst, McGuire and Franco in it and it works
TASM2 has SIX different music composers; Zimmer, Junkie XL, Mazzaro, Johnny Marr, Steve Einziger, and Andrew Kawczynski. On top of that also a original song by Pharrell Williams.
Dammmmmnnnn
@@TheKristianHarloff Hans Zimmer is credited by name but everyone else is credited as The Magnificent Six.
Wow… I’ve only seen the Molly’s Game movie, never read the book. So Toby Maguire was “Player X”? Didn’t know that
Yup!
I cant wait for u guys to view yours thoughts on TASM 1 and 2 ik your not big on the sequel but theses are without a doubt my favourite Spider-man films, I just enjoyed Andrew's performance as both Peter and Spidey and the chemistry that both Gwen and Peter have is just beyond perfect because u actually see a connection there. I also watched jeremy jahns give his view on these films a long while bk and I actually liked what he said about how he likes the whole skater to cool for school Peter Paker because we live in a world where there are different versions of what nerdy looks like so when the Rami Spider-man films came out back then that's what you would see as "Nerdy" but as time goes on and we then get the Mark Webb Amazing Spider-man's you then see what nerdy looks today which I never looked at it like that before so I thought it was a cool way to look at because people change over the yrs
Tomorrow's episode is a blast!
Ok lets focus here... Raimi's spider-man was about Peter becoming Spider-man...
TASM was about a kid looking for his parents... And while looking for them, sneaks into Oscrop, gets bitten by a spider, helps his dad's friend with a formula and creates a lizard... The story isnt about spider-man, its about a kid looking for his parents and becoming spider-man midway... And it ends with "some issues are unresolved and thats what makes us who we are"
TASM is great man... But u gotta stop expecting another origin movie, its not
Sure!
I usually listen to these on spotify, but I had to come on youtube to see what the hell was going on at 19:47 and it did not disappoint
Haha good!
Omg the spoiler part was really good. I watch the match regardless of if I know who won or not.
Ha sorry about that!!
Keep Andrew Garfield as spider-man
He very well might.
I’d didn’t see these two films until a couple years ago, and Like you guys, I was wondering who the hell “The Gentleman” was supposed to be.
It turns out, he’s actually a villain introduced in a trilogy of Spider-Man novels which is bizarre.
The nerd I am, I tracked down and read through all three books in a few months.
Some spoilers for where these films could have gone:
- The Gentleman’s name is Gustav Fiers, the brother of Karl Fiers.
In the comics, Karl was hired to assassinate Peter’s parents on the plane, which he does.
This is same the character we see in the beginning of Amazing Spider-Man 2 who dies on the plane.
So Gustav Fiers in the present is getting back at the Parkers for the death of his brother.
-Peter’s parents are working for the Red Skull(Oscorp in the movie), but are taking information and getting it to Shield.
It’s mentioned in the 2nd film that Oscorp wanted to sell Richard Parker’s work to a “Foreign Military organization”.
This would be Hydra, which brings in some fun speculation of how Sony and Marvel could’ve tied together their universes if things worked out earlier.
-The idea of The Parker’s working for Oscorp comes from the Ultimate comics, in which we learn that Richard Parker and Dr. Connors we’re creating what would be the Symbiote, a bio suit that would fight cancer and repair injuries.
The Goblin Suit in the 2nd movie implicitly being a prototype version of this idea which would likely have been pursued in the 3rd movie.
I wonder if the Gentleman will return.
@@TheKristianHarloff
Michael Massee passed away a few years ago, but I they could easily recast him if they wanted to.
I am a strong Believer to this day that it was one of Stan Lee’s dying wishes for Sony and Disney to “set aside/work out”(big air quotes) the Spiderman Property. It was One of if not THE Stan Lee baby. They are doing this for Mr. Lee
Hey who knows, I would love to believe that but I don't know if even the great Stan Lee gets in the way of greed.
A couple days late to the discussion, but I think you can totally have a Miles story with a Peter that isn't killed off, and they can be closer in age.
The Spider-Man PS4 game and it's semi sequel spinoff Spider-Man Miles Morales does this, in my opinion, perfectly. Peter in the first game is 23, Miles is 15 going on 16. In Miles' game, he is 17, with Peter being 24 maybe 25. They're relationship is more akin to brothers, with Pete being a little over protective, giving Miles a hand me down suit with knee pads, and calling Miles if he needs to return home from his vacation with MJ, so he can provide back up.
If they do the Miles route with Holland, then the game route is what I would hope they do. Why do we need to kill our heroes? We know they'll somehow return, so it's kinda cheap haha.
Going to be very interesting!
Here’s how you explain it to people… Ya have a Spider-Man’s movie poster and put Toby McGuires head on it.
Most people will not be as confused as they will be curious.
Then in the subsequent film you give a little exposition in the first 10 pages catching everybody up.
Haha
We are getting a andrew garfield spidey 3!
You think so?
Also there is no Sinister SIx. It has been confirmed by the best scoopers that it will be five. Lizard, Goblin, Doc Ock, Electro, and Sandman. Rhino will not be in this movie and it will only be 5 villains. This does make sense when you think about the fact that Sony is developing a Sinister Six film right now.
People jazzed about the SInister Six!
I think Peter in this Film especially pre-bite is a person who has no moral compass like the starting scene where he tries helping the kid who is being bullied, i think its him trying to gain the Attention by helping the kid . This Peter is a person who seeks validation. He doesnt have a moral compass he starts realising his problems at the bridge scene. I thought this was a very good way to introduce the character. I can understand the criticism of these films and that people want a lead who is likeable but i think this very good adaptation of the character especially the original lee/ditko run where Peter was a jackass.
Good pointsQ
i can't wait for coy to host a no way home event with tobey.
It would be GREAT!
Before the Tom Holland ones this is hands down my absolute favorite especially the way Garfield portrays Spider-Man. Loving this re-watch review.
Thank you!
Back for more in Xmas 2021👍
Thank you!
I thought every spiderman was supposed to be different and the multiverse they are introducing was an easy explanation for that
This is my favorite spider man movie but Andrew is my favorite spider man
Andrew is great for sure.
My thoughts on this movie pretty much match yours Kristian. The story and score suck ass but everything else is really great! I feel like it needs mentioning how much I am enjoying the comic book education Winston and Coy are giving me in this rewatch series! It's great stuff.
Thank you! Matrix coming this week!
NWH topped this movie and yes, there are things that i wish they had changed (like removing the parent subplot altogether, especially because ut detracted from this film and hugely detracted from ASM2). But prior to NWH, this film has the two most comic-perfect Spidey scenes ever, imo: the scene with the car thief and the cops, and the scene on the bridge when he gives his mask to the kid. And that's not even including the fact that every time Andrew and Emma are on screen together, there is a smile on your face like there hasn't been in a romance since the Golden Age of Hollywood. It feels like a timeless love story as the cherry on top of a delicious comic book sundae. This is by far the most Spider-man-ny film. Peter's intellect, his snark, exploring his relationship with the NYPD and the people of NYC, Garfield's lanky, agile frame, him actually moving and acting like a spider (webbing up Lizard while crawling over him, creating the giant web in the sewer to "trap his prey"), and honestly-from someone who does not enjoy Sally Fields-a far better and more believable Aunt May and Uncle Ben. I am not trying to take anything away from Holland and i really enjoy that performance, but Garfield is the best and most perfectly cast Spidey we will ever see on film.
I want to see The Amazing SpiderMan 3!
@@TheKristianHarloff Heck yes! From what i have been seeing, a lot of people do want another one. Merry Christmas, btw! Thanks for interacting with your fan base so much, the vids are so fun😀
I could be wrong and looking into this more than it needs to be but what if in no way home strange is actually Mephisto bc there are moments in that trailer that strange doesn’t seem like himself the current strange would risk the multiverse for Peter especially after Wong tells him not too that seemed off to me
I wonder if that is the case?!
@@TheKristianHarloff that's just my theory they keep mentioning him in the Disney+ shows (Wanda vision the devil's in the details and the showing of the devil in the church in Loki) so having Mephisto design himself as strange and that starts the multiverse of madness that the real strange has to fix would be a fantastic way to connect everything
I miss Big John Schnepp for these reviews. Although Coy and Winston are doing a great job.
Personally, I like this movie. Andrew Garfield is really believable as both Spiderman and Peter Parker. And I can watch that scene with Coldplay playing in the background all the time.
Thanks Tashrif!
"For some reason, I remember Dennis Leary being in the second movie"
Oh, buddy. Oh, dude. Oh, friend. How could you forget the eternal meme of Disapproving Dennis Leary? lol.
Ha true, def forgot.
Nope, wrong. Tobey’s Peter Parker has the incident in the school cafeteria before he does the wall climbing and rooftop stuff. It’s in the school cafeteria that he notices the fork stuck to his wrist with the webbing, which is the first time he sees the webbing. Also, he caught MJ and her food when she slipped. This is the next day after he was bitten.
Well…, you’ve all convinced to me revisit it. This movie has been unfairly filed in my mind as “The Amazing Spiderman: Not Spiderman 4”.
Come back after you checked it out and let us know!
I 1000% want at least one Roger Rabbit-esque moment in No Way Home!!!
I don't know if I could take it, haha
@@TheKristianHarloff 🤣
Kristian, will you be doing a Jurassic Park/World rewatch leading up to the new one next year? I rewatched the first trilogy & those sequels…. 🗑. I’d love to see you & a crew deep dive that franchise
Hmmmm, maybe?
The Amazing Kristian Harloff
Well thank you
This restored my faith. I've always felt this was overrated. Not a terrible movie , but not as good as the first two Raimi films. The cast was great, but the story had so many bad aspects. They should have skipped doing the origin again and just had him start as college age Spider-Man. No parent stuff.
Yeah I agree
Back to your problem with the spiders in the second movie they explain that Peter dad implanted his blood into the spiders so that Peter the only one that would get the power if get bit anybody else would just be normal
Blah, even worse.
@@TheKristianHarloff 😂😂sorry was hoping that help you
I don’t see them bringing in lizard or Gwen after this movie unless they want doctor strange have peter fix the timeline but excited to see Garfield returning he was a good spidey with his quips along with doing well in the action scenes and his peter wasn’t written well but he did ok with the script btw “property of peter Parker” when lizard discovers Peter’s camera in the sewer is so ridiculous lol
YES! I forgot to mention that!
First SEN gave us RB3 vs MBJ......Now it has given us Coy vs Tobey
Great breakdowns as always House Schmoe
Ha thanks!
I feel very conflicted about the Andrew Garfield Spider-Man movies. I like them both, but I also feel that starting over from scratch after Sam Raimi's 3rd one was the wrong move. Sony could've easily continued that universe even without Raimi as the director. Giving up after one poorly received sequel is ridiculous to me. By the way, you were spot on about how Peter Parker was portrayed as a cool guy as opposed to being a little dorky. I knew guys in high school similar to this version of him and they were popular as fuck lol. They were the whole package: the looks, brains, personality, confidence, and they got hot girls without much trouble and we're supposed to believe a guy like this is a loser in this movie? Give me a break lol.
So curious how all of these will tie in!
A David Fincher Spider-Man? I don’t know about that. But I really dug this movie. I’ll take it over the first and second Raimi. Simply because Andrew is the better Spider-Man and I do feel like they TASM delivered a movie far more rooted in comics. I def hated the basketball and subway scenes. Those were weird, campy and goofy. The parents subplot slows the movie down and Lizard should have had a better design but I still love this movie.
As a fellow New Yorker in SoCal, all that NY stuff is 💯 lol
Hahaha right?!
Oh yeah I forgot one more thing, Peter is kind of a creep in both of these movies. In this movie, he has a picture of Gwen on his laptop and takes pictures of her and once Uncle Ben said it out loud to her, she’s not weirded out by that?
Or in the second one, when Peter as Spider-Man followed her around when she’s hanging out with her friends and even admit it to her face, that somehow doesn’t scare the shit out of her?
Right!
Tobey was a creep imo as well lol
@@gregoryjoslin3173 I don’t remember a single moment in the Raimi films where he was being creepy.
The Amazing Spider-Man is my main example when it comes to a movie that I originally really like when it came out, now the more I watch and think it, I grew to dislike it. I don’t think it’s terrible, it has its moments, but I found it to be a soulless, bland, and dull cash grab that’s pretty much almost a repeat of the first Spider-Man movie, but nowhere near as fun and charming.
I love Andrew Garfield as an actor and it’s not his fault cause I know he loves the character and wanted to honor it and if he really is in No Way Home, it might give him a chance to have better material. Because for both of these movies, the #1 rule for a superhero movie should get right: Make you like the main character. It worked for Tobey Maguire, it worked for Tom Holland, not for Garfield sadly as I found his Peter Parker/Spider-Man to be so unlikable, obnoxious, and whiny. And I get it Spider-Man jokes a lot in the comics and this is more based on the Ultimate comics, but you could make your main character come off as a smart ass and still make him likable and whenever he jokes, which is like for 2 scenes, I didn’t laugh a single time. Also he never really grows or have an arc, as he never learns his lesson.
I know I’m in the minority on this one, but I never cared for the Peter and Gwen romance like everyone does. There’s just no substance to it and to me they just pad out each scene for so long, it just comes off as Garfield and Stone ad-libbing… badly IMO (It’s even worse in the 2nd one when they keep going back and forth in wanting to be with each other) and it’s so cringey in both of these movies, they’re like that annoying couple that has to remind you that they’re in love every time. Also didn’t help that I don’t find Gwen Stacy in these movies to be that interesting as a character, and hot take: I found Kirsten Dunst’s Mary Jane to be a better written character, despite people complaining about her being a damsel in distress, because at least the first Raimi movie set up her character up really well. Hell even for the little we got in Far from Home, I got sense of Zendaya’s MJ and her personality and why she likes being around Peter. It’s not that Emma Stone was bad, she was okay (Although she got on my nerves in the sequel), but the character barely has anything to her and we never get why she falls in love with Peter, she’s literally the pitch perfect definition of a bland love interest in a superhero movie. It’s almost like Sony and the writers were like, “We don’t need to write an interesting character, people love Emma Stone, she’s charming, they’ll automatically like her.”
The Lizard is a poorly developed villain and looks like a giant Goomba from the Super Mario Brothers movie and his plan to turn everybody in New York into lizard people is completely dumb, some subplots or characters disappear, Marc Webb’s direction didn’t really stand out to me and at times felt like a music video (Which make sense because he’s directed some music videos before), the action scenes are pretty dull to watch, I didn’t really feel anything for Uncle Ben’s death because you never feel like it had that much of an impact on Peter and plus it was his fault for going for the gun and the robber wasn’t even threatening him. The whole storyline with his parents is completely unnecessary, the Spider-Man suit looks like shit, it’s poorly edited and any emotional moment just doesn’t feel earned as the writing feels lazy, and we didn’t really need another retelling of the origin story again, we already know, if you ain’t gonna do anything unique with it, then what’s the point? Instead it tries to be a Batman Begins wannabe.
Not everything in this movie is bad, I like Denis Leary, there are some cool web slinging shot at times, I like the scene on the bridge with him saving the kid from the burning car, James Horner’s score was fine, and it has one of my favorite Stan Lee cameos. But that’s really it honestly. For me, the biggest problem with both of these movies is that they come off as a cynical corporate product that only panders to fans without anything sense of passion and heart in them. I know the Amazing Spider-Man films have their fans and that’s cool and I’m glad some people like them, but I just don’t see it anymore personally.
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I agree with OP. Garfield just came across like he was a jerk. There was a level of charm that Macguire had that I just didn't see in Garfield. Also, maybe it's the 90s kid in me, but I so wanted to see Denis Leary get to rant about Spider-Man. Kind of like his stand up or his rant in Demolition Man. Every police chief deserves one good rant, right?
@@rdp16rulez Yeah when they were talking about Tobey being selfish in the Raimi films and Garfield stop being selfish by the end of this one, I disagree with that. By the end of the movie, he still ends up being with Gwen, despite her father saying to keep her out of this. It just shows that he didn’t learn a single thing and didn’t grow that much as a character.
I rewatched this movie when my internet was off recently and I gotta say This is my second favorite Spider-Man movie after Homecoming. It would be the best if it had TASM 2 suit and had scenes with Connors family like they shot. If that it would be a perfect Spider-Man movie, And I disagree he isn't COOL AT ALL in this movie. I Skateboarded as a geek and I was not cool at all. Dressing like a scene kid is not cool. Skateboarding at that time still wasn't mainstream at the Olympics. I feel Tom Holland is more cool at his nerd school than Peter Was at his regular High School.
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I never could get into these spider man movies
Lots of good, lots of bad.
Y’all really butchered explaining the ultimate universe and 616 main universe
616 universe is basically starwars canon
Ultimate marvel comics is the starwars legends universe
It’s a separate universe @Kristian Harloff
Ah ok, I know nothing about this.
Andrew & Emma deserved better than these garbage movies
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Also I think it’s called No Way Home because the villains have no way home. Also because Spider-Man can’t go home because everyone knows who he is.
That could also be very true.
Oh my gosh I'm 3 minutes in. You guys have the weirdest Spider-Man takes. I'm so confused.
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I actually like this film. Not crazy on the look of the lizard. Overall Andrew Garfield was a dope Spider-Man not a good Peter Parker.
Yes I agree.
I thought Garfield was so awkward as Parker to the point I was cringing. I’m not sure if that was the point, but I hated those moments. I liked him better has Spider-Man than Peter. Also, wasn’t a fan of the lizard design. He looked like a Goomba from the Mario Bros movie, didn’t have that lizard snout that he should have. I would give the movie a solid B-
He is a great sPidey
The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) left no lasting impression on me, even though I was 14 years old at the time (but Sam Raimi got it first, because always on TV). That's probably the reason why I missed The Amazing Spider-Man 2 in theaters when it was released in 2014. Thanks to TH-cam there is an awkward need for ten thousand bazillion reviews of these movies (especially the first three), so
I caught up with the two Amazing Spider-Man movies. Always interested if people are on the same page as me.
I am so curious about how part 2 lands.
Even though this movie and the second both have their good moments it was generally a trash heap and a huge misfire. They felt like they were purely made by Sony execs and producers, you can kinda tell from the leaked emails in the Sony hack. Still loving the chemistry between you three though its always fun
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@57:28… If after all this bullshit with Tom Holland’s contract and the licensing issues with the character if they screw up such an obvious and enjoyable solution both Marvel and Sony are fucking clueless. It would be a bigger missed opportunity than Batman VS Superman.
You re-introduce the world to Andrew and Toby (WHILE Disney picks up the tab to do so), confirming that there is very obviously demand to see these characters again. Then in the end bake into the plot that Tom stays in the MCU, Toby & Andrew stay in their perspective universes. Then Disney/MCU has their Spider-Man and Sony not only has A Spider-Man but two. I guarantee you the only hesitation around doing this would be they think it would confuse fans, which is lazy and just untrue. I explained this whole idea to my 11 year old nephew, it took him MOMENTS to comprehend.
If they somehow fuck this up they’re gonna make Warner Bros/DC look like its run by Cecil B DeMille.
Very curious on how this all pans out.
It's an okay movie but the villains plan is easily one of the dumbest plans in the history of villains plans lol. He wants to turn everyone into a lizard because???? This movie is middle of the road better than amazing spiderman 2 and spiderman 3 and maybe far from home.
Yup
Andrew was a great Spiderman, but wasn’t a fan of him as Peter. however, the movie itself wasn’t good imo.
Yeah lots f good, lots of not good