I really don't like this "It doesn't hold up" argument because things aren't supposed to hold up. Everything is a product of their time. Saying certain things in the movie wouldn't work today is like saying the CD player is no longer relevant. Thank you Captain Obvious. Things that hold up are the exception to the rule.
I hear ya. But some movies are made to capitalize on the trends and tastes of the time they are in, and some are made where the feel and tone and themes of the film work in 1930, 1950, 1990 or 2020. You can enjoy them and they are “timeless” forever. Like the original Jurassic park or Back To the Future
This kind of content is just so good. My favorite form of entertainment aside from videogames and movies, is watching people talk about the things that they enjoy. Good shit, y'all! 👍
58:49 totally disagree. Tobey was very good as Peter Parker. Especially in those moments in the backyard with Mary Jane when they were talking about what they are dreaming on becoming, that is still some of the best Spiderman moments
Yea I agree too he’s supposed to be awkward and his version of Spider-man is supposed to be campy. Of course it isn’t the same as the more grounded Tom Holland. I think they’re all great but I think Toney needs his just due as Peter Parker
Coy is Peter Parker lol. I was playing Spider-Man on PS5 and his voice and mannerisms reminds me of Coy ☺️☺️☺️. Great show. I can’t wait for the next episode ☺️☺️☺️☺️
@@TheKristianHarloff spiderman 1 and 2 can not be seen in today's view ..those films came out between late mid 1995-mid 2005 when the only real superhero film people loved in that decade era was blade(which was not a true one obviously being rated r) and maybe x men 2 at the time was well liked but like in 2002 x men 2 had not come out and x men's hype died down and blade was 4 years prior and seen as corny/campy dialogue and action wise so spiderman 1 deserves its due for being the best superhero film for an entire decade...x men 2 looking back is a worse film but has the big cast fighting acting off each other which makes up for it and makes people give it more credit then it deserves...blade vs spiderman is a toss up but blade is aiming for something different and is just a more vampire/exploitive gory horror type film because of its source material so it does not really count...blade 2 is not bad either but not on that level imo..a level below..blade trinity sucks
@@TheKristianHarloff fighting bad guys has nothing to do with mary jane...also sorry he happens to be around and then saves her life multiple times and she saves him in return?...smdh..bad take
only major issue with spiderman 1 for me is killing green goblin...really?...the one enemy everyone knew at the time besides venom and you kill him off?.....thats like killing joker and ra's al ghoul/penguin...you just don't do it...
Loved this breakdown! Coy and Winston are my go-to guys for comic book nerd stuff and having them both on makes my day. Thanks Kristian for all your content and keep up the great work!
Harloff, are you an impressionist? That’s one of the best Arnold’s I’ve ever heard. Not only do you have the accent, you have his voice down perfectly. That’s like 3 awesome impressions I’ve heard from you. Arnold, Syl, and Sebastian were spot on. I could listen to you doing Syl and Sebastian all day long!!
We'll get into it more with the Spiderman 2 but to me Tobey did feel like Peter Parker especially in Spiderman 2. You have to remember this was an origin story and they were just really getting their footing (the actors) and director
Oh man I just rewatched this movie completely forgetting you guys were doing a rewatch too. Great timing. The older I got the more I found the cheese annoying and laughable in this movie...yet even though I still find much of it funny I now find it more charming than annoying. Movie holds up really well after a decade plus of grittier MCU. I feel like when you guys get round to Spider-Man 2 you'll be much more jazzed about Raimi's directing Multiverse of Madness.
Great re-watch, guys! I won't lie, I still love this movie. I actually like the cheesiness (well, most of it, anyway), and I feel like it's a fantastically done origin story with a classic Danny Elfman score. Maybe not everything holds up well, but I love how this feels self-contained and not like you have to watch "said movie in cinematic universe" to understand certain things. Tobey Maguire is my sentimental favorite in the role; however, I actually think Garfield nailed both the Parker AND Spider-Man role the most (Peter initially has a huge chip on his shoulder and is kind of a jerk in the comics), and I really like the first Amazing Spider-Man and parts of the 2nd. Holland is a great actor, but he's my least favorite Spider-Man. To me, he plays more of a Miles Morales-type than Peter. I'm also not a fan of the Stark suit or Stark mentorship really. I still enjoy his movies and can enjoy him in the role, though. Spider-Man 2 is still a top 5 comic book movie for me, and I've actually been coming around on Spider-Man 3 in recent years.
Loving these rewatches and decided to watch it again myself. To me this movie is still incredible. I placed nostalgia aside and still THIS IS SPIDER-MAN. Goes to show how much I have missed the origin, Uncle Ben, a hero's responsibility, and the city of New York. I realize that they wanted to change up MCU Spider-Man but it only harms the character IMO. Don't get me wrong, I like Tom Holland but they destroyed the essence. Not a fan of the Tony Stark gadget suit and the AI. Yes he goes back to basics to learn the lesson but it's just too far gone from classic Spider-Man. Another topic of discussion is the age of Tobey but I don't mind it. I relate it to the 1994 animated series where he is graduated and college aged already in the working world. With Aunt May properly cast as an older woman I really don't see Tobey, James & Kirsten being too old. Keep it up guys. Love that SEN is about the movies again!
Kristian, I am so glad I listened to your advice about Quip and their smart electric toothbrush. It makes brushing my teeth so much better! I am enjoying this episode of The Big Thing, with you, Coy, and Winston.
As soon as Cory mentioned James Cameron's spiderman script having Arnold as Doc Ock I was hoping for Kristian to do his Arnold impression and he didn't let me down. LOL
Hey man, did you see the full script read through of James Cameron's Spider-Man on the Low Carb Comedy channel? They change the voices quite a bit (its an improv thing) but it's a really fun video to listen to. That script was absolutely nuts!
To me the most iconic spiderman is the very old animation, and to me Tobey Maguire is the closest to that by far. Andrew Garfield was the worst Peter by far, and Tom Holland IMO has been misused because of the state of MCU when he was introduced. He seems great but I haven't enjoyed his movies as much as the originals. I think I could get into him if they tone down his movies and make them smaller scale.
Watched the '02 Spider-Man last night so I thought I'd come check out this episode. This was a childhood favourite of mine and I still loved it even if it's dated in parts. The cheese works for me as you guys discussed. Loved hearing the thoughts and opinions of the 3 of you, shall be checking back to watch your Spider-Man 2 rewatch for sure!
I think The Green Goblin not unmasking Spider-Man makes complete sense, he's trying to build up trust and a friendly partnership, and this is showing him respect, and a willingness to put their differences aside for the sake of healthy teamwork.
Fun time with you Spider-Nerds. Someone else mentioned the possibility that Sony/Marvel has a bigger thing in their pocket that has yet to be revealed. That could be a million things, but my question is: What if it's Spider-Gwen/Ghost-Spider and which Gwen actress would play her? Hailee seems unfortunately out because Kate Bishop, but Emma Stone would be great. Also hearing the plans for Bruce Campbell as Mysterio for Spider-Man 4, I just think he'd be better as Chameleon
awesome video talking about the first Sam Raimi Spider-man movie. No way home is going to so crazy and special to me because Spider-man (2002) was the first ever superhero movie i saw in theaters and now in a couple of months i'm going to see 3 Spider-men on the big screen
Hey all, loved the video and excited for the rest of the Trilogy breakdown. Y’all should check out the video essay series by HiTop Films on TH-cam. He goes in depth about his love for the Rami Spider-Man Trilogy. It’s very well done and may be fun to watch while you’re rewatching the Trilogy.
At the end of Venom 1, before the 2nd post-credits scene (1:47:25) there is text that says "Meanwhile in another universe ..." and a scene from Into the Spiderverse plays. Therefore, Sony has established that in their continuity, the animated and live action universe characters can mix. How they execute that will be interesting to see.
Just finished the episode. Truly freaking loved it. My favorite episodes so far are this and the one with your movie studio buddy with the Tom Hardy story. There a Napzok one that was super touching as well. Building up a solid catalogue. I love to see it. Been fiending for this content again for the last few years. This specific trio just HITS. I always come on here and joke about Campea's show being a smug stressful version of my movie fix 😂 and I say that with love. Campea is the man despite our heated comment debate about Wonder Woman 😂😂😂 we tend to trigger each other whenever we interact lol...but for real I find you and him to be two separate poles of the classic Movie talk genre. Equal in importance imo btw. This laid back joke filled shoot the shit excitement is what's been missing for me tho, which is what the schmoes side always had. Schnepp skrimple skamp soul lives on in episodes like this. I actually watch both you and Campea regularly again for the first time in years. That buzz is in the air. Capitalize on this 2nd coming SEN. LETS GET IT! ✌❤
This was great, thank you guys for an awesome conversation. Now I need to watch this movie again! Please do some more of these, can’t wait till the next video!
What If Spoilers and NWH spoilers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ... The box uatu puts the guardians of the multiverse looks so much like the box Strange gives Peter in the NWH trailer Hm.
My 16 yo son thinks it’s Tobey and Dunst on top of the bridge in the No Way Home trailer. He also thinks Ned’s Hobgoblin is the 6th Member of the Six. I think it’s Venom. You have the big reveal of the mid credits scene from Venom 2. He’s gotta make an appearance.
I think one of the biggest strong points of the Raimi trilogy is the emotional aspect of the relationships. The MJ-Peter relationship with the brilliant Danny Elfman score really makes it worthwhile. I think Tobey did an excellent job as Peter Parker/Spiderman. Especially in Spiderman 2 where the real life struggles kicks in. To me I like Tom Holland but I don't like his incarnation of Spiderman. Yes Spiderman is a tech savvy hero but he relies too much Stark tech for me to really believe that he is independently tech savvy. They do show the balance of normal life and hero life in both Tom and Andrew Garfield's movies but to me I can never relate to Tom's Spiderman because he always has that Stark tech backing while Tobey had to figure everything out and make adjustments by his knowledge and instincts
Great video guys… but holy shit I can’t stand the Raimi trilogy Spider-Man movies lol glad to hear I’m not alone. All of the characters just seem like caricatures of themselves… exaggerated but also lacking emotion.
I think coy’s take on Big Bang theory is stupid. There’s not 1 type of geek. There’s all types. And they not just geeks. They are geniuses. So they don’t think like normal people.
The best toby film. I agree #2 is vastly overrated. As well is into the spider verse in my opinion. I actually find it did make sense that if he got bite by a spider that gave him all the other powers, why wouldn't he have organic webs? But I also do see the massive flaw in his lack of science smarts etc. I grew up with toby. But my list is 1. Holland 2. Garfield 3. Toby. (I watched it out of order lol so I'm going backwards on the episodes.)
Why don’t more reviews talk about how physically strong SpiderMan is? One of my favorite lines is from Civil War. SpiderMan stop the Winter Solider’s metal hand and says “ Dude you have a metal arm”. That shows he as strong or stronger than a super solider. He stopped a speed train. Put some respect on one of the strongest Marvel heroes.
Coy is correct on his take regarding Big Bang Theory (and this was put forward by a couple of folks, not just Coy). I don't think you guys are correct regarding Tobey Maguire. I've read so many interviews where people talked to him about his preparation for the role. And that he supposedly had tears in his eyes the first time he put the suit on (although I think I read the same thing about Garfield... AND about Holland, too ^^). I guess I'll have to rewatch the movie... I did think of Tobey very fondly and while I'd agree that Garfield's Spider-Man was more on point and that Holland is the best Spidey overall and that his Peter is also better... I felt like Tobey certainly did the role justice. And sometimes it doesn't sound like you guys are thinking the same way.
I’m really frustrated that we haven’t gotten that definitive “spidey” moment with Tom Holland and everything now is talking about who is in this movie/ where it’s going/ what’s coming next and I’m worried that this movie is just going to be a team up movie rather than Peter getting his iconic spiderman moment. He kind of had his Peter Parker moment in FFH but I just want that wow swinging scene and an iconic fight.
I'll gladly take Spider-Man 4 and/or The Amazing Spider-Man 3 in comic form. I think I may be into that idea than a live-action film due to the optics. Hey, it's working for DC with Batman '89 serving as an adaptation of Burton's third film!
I personally always thought this movie and #2 were overrated. Homecoming is still my favorite Spidey movie, followed by far from home. All the others are mediocre to poor in my opinion
I grew up with Tobey so he is my favorite but I do recognize Tom being the best Peter and Spidey. Btw this show was awesome I look forward to more geek convo's with this panel!
Regarding James Cameron’s version of Spider-Man, I think remember reading somewhere that there was going to be a scene where Spider-Man and Mary Jane have sex on the Brooklyn Bridge. That would have been…interesting. 😏
Whenever Kristian calls Coy the expert, my man's in the spiderman outfit looking like BITCH DO YOU SEE WHAT I SHOWED UP IN!? 😂😂😂 Great episode. I rewatch the Weekly Planet aka Mr.Sunday movies Rami trilogy review every couple of months. So this was great to see. I haven't rewatched the films myself in awhile. Especially the second and 3rd one. I know I've seen 1 and 2 alot, once upon a time. Not in a hot minute tho. 3 I'm less familiar with altogether... im'a have to go back here soon and do my due diligence. Entertaining dynamic between the 3 of y'all btw. Works super well for me to 💯✌❤
I still enjoy Raimi's Spiderman movies at about the same level as the first 2 X-men movies. Solid C+, maybe B-. I have to disagree as far as the chemistry between Dunst and Maguire. You guys must have watched a different set of films because there is not a single scene in three films that can be pointed to that explains why they would be together or even attracted to each other. Granted this problem only became more glaring after the TASM films because Peter and Gwen's relationship is not only believable but is the central focus. Even when i first watched Raimi's films though, there is zero chemistry on screen except between Peter and the villains. I hated Maguire and still do watching these movies today (he constantly looks like he is actively crapping himself and his voiceover sounds like he just took an Ambien) but i liked the villains and the overall campy feel Raimi shot for. It's just not how i prefer my Spider-Man. Andrew Garfield will always be my ideal film version of the web-slinger and i really feel like TASMs' and MCUs' also do a great job of capturing NYC. SPOILER WARNING FOR NO WAY HOME: However, i loved Tobey in NWH. His performance was nuanced and perfect as the older Parker. As Coy said there, this was the Tobey Maguire other fans must have seen in the Raimi films. This made me wish Raimi hadn't made Peter such an unlovable doofus and that Tobey got a chance to be in a solo 'real' Spidey film.
You guys are way too in the weeds on the MCU stuff. There’s no way all that deep diving timeline variant BS matters at all. The MCU has to appeal to a wide audience and getting into all the weeds with multiverses and variants and timelines makes the average viewer turn their brain off.
This is a movie I loved as a kid and it got me into the superhero film genre! However, the cheesy tone does hold this movie back and watching this movie today and comparing it to something like captain america civil war it doesn't hold up on repeat viewings !
@@jermainehaslam5634 Love that! Well welcome to the channel my friend! These are avail in podcast form also if you like listening to them! Hope you enjoy your time on the channel Jermaine! Welcome!
The part at roughly 43:00 minutes in was pure gold. When Kristian does the Harry move pretending that "he just heard about the movie", etc... I'm watching these re-watches in reverse order (I was mostly curious about Spider-Man 3, then listened to you to Amazing Spider-Man and now I did Spider-Man 2 and this one. Looking forward to your re-watch of Amazing 2, all of these were great! Super happy with this format, people can clearly tell you guys are having a blast. :-)
@@TheKristianHarloff I think I'll enjoy your takes on the original trilogy of Star Wars and then possibly the prequels, especially if you look at them in context. But I can't watch anyone fanboy out over The Last Jedi. ^^ That movie more or less killed my fandom for Star Wars and anyone that's stanning hard for that movie is ... well... not quite dead to me, but let's just say I tend to not enjoy listening to them afterwards. So I think it's best for me to not watch that re-watch unless someone is on the panel that's talking about the 5 million things in that movie that make absolutely no sense.
Awesome, awesome discussion! Winston and Coy are aces. Pleas invite Bonnie for Spider-Man 2 if for no other reason than to provide friendly-neighborhood chaos.
I love the mcu just as much as the next fan, but goddamn can we focus on the actual raimi film? There is so much you could fill up in a segment about this movie, and the fact that we are comparing and contrasting so hard with the mcu is kinda disheartening
@@incognitofool6516 There are probably dozens of other videos that just talk about these movies without referencing the MCU. Whole point of this is to rewatch them and talk about how they might play into the MCU in the future.
@@R17759 No, that isnt the point. The point is, to talk about the film itself. There is nothing wrong with speculating on the future, but when an hour of this video is dedicated to theories and future movies, it misses the point of a rewatch.
I don't know if I agree with the theory that the Tom Holland version is the one that goes to the world with the Tobey Maguire version, but it's definitely interesting. The conversation and theories were all fun to listen to.
I have watched these movies countless times since they first released. The second is still one of my favorite superhero films. Just the amount of play the practical spidey suit gets and how good it looks compared to the overused CG in the MCU. With Holland you don't have the quiet moments of Peter sitting with his thoughts, contemplating his shitty life like in the Raimi films. There is definitely some nostalgia having watched them as a teenager, but there isnt a hint of rose on these glasses.
Don't hate me but tobeys Peter parker might be the most annoying lead of any superhero movie he looks like he's on the verge of crying every second lol.
I really don't like this "It doesn't hold up" argument because things aren't supposed to hold up. Everything is a product of their time. Saying certain things in the movie wouldn't work today is like saying the CD player is no longer relevant. Thank you Captain Obvious. Things that hold up are the exception to the rule.
I don't think that is always the case though.
@@TheKristianHarloff That's why I said there are exceptions to the rule...
true..we can't all be jaws annie frankenstein wizard of oz or alice in wonderland...those are the rarities
I hear ya. But some movies are made to capitalize on the trends and tastes of the time they are in, and some are made where the feel and tone and themes of the film work in 1930, 1950, 1990 or 2020. You can enjoy them and they are “timeless” forever. Like the original Jurassic park or Back To the Future
@@razkable Pretty much.
Tobey is the best Peter Parker and spiderman
Well there ya go!
So glad you three are rewatching these! I expect to hear much more from Richard next week because he was definitely on that train with Joey Diaz lol
Hahaha
@@TheKristianHarloff b&r was 97...forever was 95...
This kind of content is just so good. My favorite form of entertainment aside from videogames and movies, is watching people talk about the things that they enjoy. Good shit, y'all! 👍
Love that, thank you!
I can't believe this kind of content is free. What a wonderful Spidey conversation. Thanks Kristian, Winston and Coy!
Too kind Kate, thank you!
58:49 totally disagree. Tobey was very good as Peter Parker. Especially in those moments in the backyard with Mary Jane when they were talking about what they are dreaming on becoming, that is still some of the best Spiderman moments
Thank you for sharing the opinion Tashrif!
Yea I agree too he’s supposed to be awkward and his version of Spider-man is supposed to be campy. Of course it isn’t the same as the more grounded Tom Holland. I think they’re all great but I think Toney needs his just due as Peter Parker
Coy is Peter Parker lol. I was playing Spider-Man on PS5 and his voice and mannerisms reminds me of Coy ☺️☺️☺️. Great show. I can’t wait for the next episode ☺️☺️☺️☺️
Haha
Coy’s predictions about Marvel movies have always been way off.
Ha poor Coy
@@TheKristianHarloff spiderman 1 and 2 can not be seen in today's view ..those films came out between late mid 1995-mid 2005 when the only real superhero film people loved in that decade era was blade(which was not a true one obviously being rated r) and maybe x men 2 at the time was well liked but like in 2002 x men 2 had not come out and x men's hype died down and blade was 4 years prior and seen as corny/campy dialogue and action wise so spiderman 1 deserves its due for being the best superhero film for an entire decade...x men 2 looking back is a worse film but has the big cast fighting acting off each other which makes up for it and makes people give it more credit then it deserves...blade vs spiderman is a toss up but blade is aiming for something different and is just a more vampire/exploitive gory horror type film because of its source material so it does not really count...blade 2 is not bad either but not on that level imo..a level below..blade trinity sucks
@@TheKristianHarloff fighting bad guys has nothing to do with mary jane...also sorry he happens to be around and then saves her life multiple times and she saves him in return?...smdh..bad take
I love this movie. It is such a throw back to the 1960s - 70s Spiderman era for me
I agree with that.
only major issue with spiderman 1 for me is killing green goblin...really?...the one enemy everyone knew at the time besides venom and you kill him off?.....thats like killing joker and ra's al ghoul/penguin...you just don't do it...
@@razkable to be fair 1989's Batman killed off the joker. I did like the dynamic of his spirit being in Harry's head throughout the trilogy
Loved this breakdown! Coy and Winston are my go-to guys for comic book nerd stuff and having them both on makes my day. Thanks Kristian for all your content and keep up the great work!
Glad you enjoyed!
Harloff, are you an impressionist? That’s one of the best Arnold’s I’ve ever heard. Not only do you have the accent, you have his voice down perfectly. That’s like 3 awesome impressions I’ve heard from you. Arnold, Syl, and Sebastian were spot on. I could listen to you doing Syl and Sebastian all day long!!
Jealous?
Thanks Craig!
"Did your husband get it for you" is a hilarious line. Stop being offended by everything
I like bagels and creamcheese. Sometimes I throw eggs on an onion bagel, fuckin delicious.
I love this movie the best goofy rami-esk scene Was when aunt may is praying and goblin busts in and yells FINISH IT!!!! 😂
Haha
Here is my theory. Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man dies and Miles Morales will be the new Spider-Man of that universe. Boom
Not a crazy theory at all.
Im loving the big thing. Reminds me of the old schmoesknows shows with AMC show vibes. Love it
Thank you!!
Spider-Man 2 is a masterpiece. The best CBM ever. Excited to see you guys underrate it!
Hahaha
Probably right! Ha
Haha we shall see
Okay this was so much fun. The three of you are great together. Really excited for the rest of the Spidey rewatches.
Thank you! We are also excited for it!
Same here
We'll get into it more with the Spiderman 2 but to me Tobey did feel like Peter Parker especially in Spiderman 2. You have to remember this was an origin story and they were just really getting their footing (the actors) and director
Totally
Oh man I just rewatched this movie completely forgetting you guys were doing a rewatch too. Great timing.
The older I got the more I found the cheese annoying and laughable in this movie...yet even though I still find much of it funny I now find it more charming than annoying. Movie holds up really well after a decade plus of grittier MCU. I feel like when you guys get round to Spider-Man 2 you'll be much more jazzed about Raimi's directing Multiverse of Madness.
Curious on how it will all pan out!
I still lol at Jameson being from multiverse
Hey SEN! Are we getting Sith Council this week? I miss it :)
New York threw it off. We are back next week!
Great re-watch, guys! I won't lie, I still love this movie. I actually like the cheesiness (well, most of it, anyway), and I feel like it's a fantastically done origin story with a classic Danny Elfman score. Maybe not everything holds up well, but I love how this feels self-contained and not like you have to watch "said movie in cinematic universe" to understand certain things. Tobey Maguire is my sentimental favorite in the role; however, I actually think Garfield nailed both the Parker AND Spider-Man role the most (Peter initially has a huge chip on his shoulder and is kind of a jerk in the comics), and I really like the first Amazing Spider-Man and parts of the 2nd. Holland is a great actor, but he's my least favorite Spider-Man. To me, he plays more of a Miles Morales-type than Peter. I'm also not a fan of the Stark suit or Stark mentorship really. I still enjoy his movies and can enjoy him in the role, though. Spider-Man 2 is still a top 5 comic book movie for me, and I've actually been coming around on Spider-Man 3 in recent years.
Hey we realize we are in the minority here! Thank you for your thoughts!
Loving these rewatches and decided to watch it again myself. To me this movie is still incredible. I placed nostalgia aside and still THIS IS SPIDER-MAN. Goes to show how much I have missed the origin, Uncle Ben, a hero's responsibility, and the city of New York.
I realize that they wanted to change up MCU Spider-Man but it only harms the character IMO. Don't get me wrong, I like Tom Holland but they destroyed the essence. Not a fan of the Tony Stark gadget suit and the AI. Yes he goes back to basics to learn the lesson but it's just too far gone from classic Spider-Man.
Another topic of discussion is the age of Tobey but I don't mind it. I relate it to the 1994 animated series where he is graduated and college aged already in the working world. With Aunt May properly cast as an older woman I really don't see Tobey, James & Kirsten being too old.
Keep it up guys. Love that SEN is about the movies again!
It always has been about movies my friend! just a new direction with a new wing!
Kristian, I am so glad I listened to your advice about Quip and their smart electric toothbrush. It makes brushing my teeth so much better! I am enjoying this episode of The Big Thing, with you, Coy, and Winston.
GOOD! Quip rules!
As soon as Cory mentioned James Cameron's spiderman script having Arnold as Doc Ock I was hoping for Kristian to do his Arnold impression and he didn't let me down. LOL
Hey man, did you see the full script read through of James Cameron's Spider-Man on the Low Carb Comedy channel? They change the voices quite a bit (its an improv thing) but it's a really fun video to listen to. That script was absolutely nuts!
Thanks man!
Goblin could’ve just read the Daily Bugle. Photographers are credited under the photos lmao
Haha
It's so funny listening to their No Way Home theories now. Guaranteeing Spider-Ham is going to be in it. Hahaha
I never said that hahaha
To me the most iconic spiderman is the very old animation, and to me Tobey Maguire is the closest to that by far. Andrew Garfield was the worst Peter by far, and Tom Holland IMO has been misused because of the state of MCU when he was introduced. He seems great but I haven't enjoyed his movies as much as the originals. I think I could get into him if they tone down his movies and make them smaller scale.
Hey gotta appreciate the take!
Watched the '02 Spider-Man last night so I thought I'd come check out this episode. This was a childhood favourite of mine and I still loved it even if it's dated in parts. The cheese works for me as you guys discussed. Loved hearing the thoughts and opinions of the 3 of you, shall be checking back to watch your Spider-Man 2 rewatch for sure!
Thank you for checking out the series!
That teacher in Spiderman... hes younger than Maginello and the other 2 bullies lol
No, he's older than Manganiello.
Ha is that true?
I think The Green Goblin not unmasking Spider-Man makes complete sense, he's trying to build up trust and a friendly partnership, and this is showing him respect, and a willingness to put their differences aside for the sake of healthy teamwork.
I guess
Fun time with you Spider-Nerds.
Someone else mentioned the possibility that Sony/Marvel has a bigger thing in their pocket that has yet to be revealed. That could be a million things, but my question is: What if it's Spider-Gwen/Ghost-Spider and which Gwen actress would play her? Hailee seems unfortunately out because Kate Bishop, but Emma Stone would be great.
Also hearing the plans for Bruce Campbell as Mysterio for Spider-Man 4, I just think he'd be better as Chameleon
Thank you!
This is SO AWESOME. Your rewatches are LEGENDARY 💯🤘😎
Thank you! We have a full playlist of all the Rewatches on the front of the channel!
@@TheKristianHarloff That's how I spend my weekend. Once again Thank you to you ,Coy and Winston for everything you do 💯😎
Great episode!! So much fun. I can't wait for all of them
Thank you!
awesome video talking about the first Sam Raimi Spider-man movie. No way home is going to so crazy and special to me because Spider-man (2002) was the first ever superhero movie i saw in theaters and now in a couple of months i'm going to see 3 Spider-men on the big screen
Really appreciate the comment, thank you Jordan!
Damn I’m rewatching them for a family rewatch for Christmas so I love all 3 of you are rewatching them. But I will drink a bit to boost the fun 😂
Ha thanks!
Oh wow this was great! Coy is spot-on with his breakdown of the actors on their portrayals of Parker and Spidey.
Thank you! Hoping you enjoy the full rewatch of Spidey Hito!
by the way I'd love you guys to do the Blade films!!
If we get closer to the Blade release of new MCU film, def option!
2..theres not 3...we don't talk about trinity
Spider-man and His Amazing Friends w/ Starfire and Iceman was great
Truth
Great idea for a video series! Can’t stop watching 😎
Glad you enjoy it! Matrix is next in line!
@@TheKristianHarloff oh hell yea I’m pumped for that. Definitely loving this rewatch series
This turned into No Way Home speculation quickly
IT def did
Who is spider man? He's a criminal. That's who he is! A vigilante. A public menace! What's he doing on my front page!?!
Hahaha nice
The swaggy B. and the quirky m'Coy! And my favourite t-shirt, lol ❤️
Hahah
Hey all, loved the video and excited for the rest of the Trilogy breakdown. Y’all should check out the video essay series by HiTop Films on TH-cam. He goes in depth about his love for the Rami Spider-Man Trilogy. It’s very well done and may be fun to watch while you’re rewatching the Trilogy.
Thank you very much!!
At the end of Venom 1, before the 2nd post-credits scene (1:47:25) there is text that says "Meanwhile in another universe ..." and a scene from Into the Spiderverse plays. Therefore, Sony has established that in their continuity, the animated and live action universe characters can mix. How they execute that will be interesting to see.
True, but I wonder...
Just finished the episode. Truly freaking loved it. My favorite episodes so far are this and the one with your movie studio buddy with the Tom Hardy story. There a Napzok one that was super touching as well. Building up a solid catalogue. I love to see it. Been fiending for this content again for the last few years. This specific trio just HITS. I always come on here and joke about Campea's show being a smug stressful version of my movie fix 😂 and I say that with love. Campea is the man despite our heated comment debate about Wonder Woman 😂😂😂 we tend to trigger each other whenever we interact lol...but for real I find you and him to be two separate poles of the classic Movie talk genre. Equal in importance imo btw. This laid back joke filled shoot the shit excitement is what's been missing for me tho, which is what the schmoes side always had. Schnepp skrimple skamp soul lives on in episodes like this. I actually watch both you and Campea regularly again for the first time in years. That buzz is in the air. Capitalize on this 2nd coming SEN. LETS GET IT! ✌❤
Hell yea
Tobey Maguire's Spider-man is the only one that actually felt like an underdog before he became Spider-man.
Fair
I thought electro was in the James Cameron script. But he wasn’t called electro and there was no doc ock and he has stingers on his wrist
Maybe so!
This was great, thank you guys for an awesome conversation. Now I need to watch this movie again! Please do some more of these, can’t wait till the next video!
We are going to do all of them!
Classic superhero film.
It is a good one
MJ tried making a Spidey movie as well. Even wanted to buy Marvel just to do it
Hmm
Great chat
Thank you!
What If Spoilers and NWH spoilers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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The box uatu puts the guardians of the multiverse looks so much like the box Strange gives Peter in the NWH trailer Hm.
Hmm indeed!
My 16 yo son thinks it’s Tobey and Dunst on top of the bridge in the No Way Home trailer. He also thinks Ned’s Hobgoblin is the 6th Member of the Six. I think it’s Venom. You have the big reveal of the mid credits scene from Venom 2. He’s gotta make an appearance.
Love how it is turning into a puzzle
This was so fun to watch. Can you 3 just do a weekly podcast together?
Having them back on Big Thing together with or without rewatches is gonna happen!
I think one of the biggest strong points of the Raimi trilogy is the emotional aspect of the relationships. The MJ-Peter relationship with the brilliant Danny Elfman score really makes it worthwhile.
I think Tobey did an excellent job as Peter Parker/Spiderman. Especially in Spiderman 2 where the real life struggles kicks in.
To me I like Tom Holland but I don't like his incarnation of Spiderman. Yes Spiderman is a tech savvy hero but he relies too much Stark tech for me to really believe that he is independently tech savvy. They do show the balance of normal life and hero life in both Tom and Andrew Garfield's movies but to me I can never relate to Tom's Spiderman because he always has that Stark tech backing while Tobey had to figure everything out and make adjustments by his knowledge and instincts
I understand this critique 100 percent.
@@TheKristianHarloff next time do a James Bond deep dive. 26 movies deep dive. That is something
EVERYONE! Comment like and repeat see you next time! Also subscribe on the podcast feeds!
Thank you!
Winston’s name isn’t actually Winston!? I’ve been living a lie... 💔
Haha
Even though this movie is 20 years old. This is a 90s Trilogy
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@@TheKristianHarloff the campiness, it just feels like a 90s movie
Man I need a Coy talking comic book movies show cuz man he is just so fun to listen to. Also huge fan of these rewatch episodes, we need more of these
I am working on it!
Great video guys… but holy shit I can’t stand the Raimi trilogy Spider-Man movies lol glad to hear I’m not alone. All of the characters just seem like caricatures of themselves… exaggerated but also lacking emotion.
I enjoy them and think first 2 are good but very overrated.
I think coy’s take on Big Bang theory is stupid. There’s not 1 type of geek. There’s all types. And they not just geeks. They are geniuses. So they don’t think like normal people.
I didn't watch the show, so my opinion is shit on the matter!
Tobey is spiderman
The best toby film. I agree #2 is vastly overrated. As well is into the spider verse in my opinion. I actually find it did make sense that if he got bite by a spider that gave him all the other powers, why wouldn't he have organic webs? But I also do see the massive flaw in his lack of science smarts etc. I grew up with toby. But my list is 1. Holland 2. Garfield 3. Toby. (I watched it out of order lol so I'm going backwards on the episodes.)
I like that!
I enjoyed this episode so so much. Great talk between you guys.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Why don’t more reviews talk about how physically strong SpiderMan is? One of my favorite lines is from Civil War. SpiderMan stop the Winter Solider’s metal hand and says “ Dude you have a metal arm”. That shows he as strong or stronger than a super solider. He stopped a speed train. Put some respect on one of the strongest Marvel heroes.
Dropping fact bombs!
Coy is correct on his take regarding Big Bang Theory (and this was put forward by a couple of folks, not just Coy).
I don't think you guys are correct regarding Tobey Maguire. I've read so many interviews where people talked to him about his preparation for the role. And that he supposedly had tears in his eyes the first time he put the suit on (although I think I read the same thing about Garfield... AND about Holland, too ^^).
I guess I'll have to rewatch the movie... I did think of Tobey very fondly and while I'd agree that Garfield's Spider-Man was more on point and that Holland is the best Spidey overall and that his Peter is also better... I felt like Tobey certainly did the role justice. And sometimes it doesn't sound like you guys are thinking the same way.
I think there is a lot Tobey did right for sure.
I’m really frustrated that we haven’t gotten that definitive “spidey” moment with Tom Holland and everything now is talking about who is in this movie/ where it’s going/ what’s coming next and I’m worried that this movie is just going to be a team up movie rather than Peter getting his iconic spiderman moment. He kind of had his Peter Parker moment in FFH but I just want that wow swinging scene and an iconic fight.
I think there is WAY more to come with him now.
Boy does Coy NOT like Tobey lmao
Haha
I'll gladly take Spider-Man 4 and/or The Amazing Spider-Man 3 in comic form. I think I may be into that idea than a live-action film due to the optics. Hey, it's working for DC with Batman '89 serving as an adaptation of Burton's third film!
This is true.
I personally always thought this movie and #2 were overrated. Homecoming is still my favorite Spidey movie, followed by far from home. All the others are mediocre to poor in my opinion
They are dated for sure.
I grew up with Tobey so he is my favorite but I do recognize Tom being the best Peter and Spidey. Btw this show was awesome I look forward to more geek convo's with this panel!
Thank you! New on tomorrow!
Regarding James Cameron’s version of Spider-Man, I think remember reading somewhere that there was going to be a scene where Spider-Man and Mary Jane have sex on the Brooklyn Bridge. That would have been…interesting. 😏
Whenever Kristian calls Coy the expert, my man's in the spiderman outfit looking like BITCH DO YOU SEE WHAT I SHOWED UP IN!? 😂😂😂 Great episode. I rewatch the Weekly Planet aka Mr.Sunday movies Rami trilogy review every couple of months. So this was great to see. I haven't rewatched the films myself in awhile. Especially the second and 3rd one. I know I've seen 1 and 2 alot, once upon a time. Not in a hot minute tho. 3 I'm less familiar with altogether... im'a have to go back here soon and do my due diligence. Entertaining dynamic between the 3 of y'all btw. Works super well for me to 💯✌❤
Thank you Corey!
Great episode!
Thank you!
Tobey is the GOAT
Don't tell Coy.
48:09 😂💀😂 hahahahahahaha holy shit
:)
I really do value your wrong opinions
Ha thanks!
hey kristian, do the big thing every monday, wednesday and friday
Hey Nico, stop being so bossy...
I do
Collider Heroes 2.0
Talking to Coy and Winston about doing something at the new studio!
This first Sam Rami Spider-Man is very dated. Unpopular opinion, I like the first Amazing Spider-Man movie more than this one.
Fair
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Thank you
Tbh I think Holland’s Spider-Man was better in the Russo films
Hmm interesting1
I still enjoy Raimi's Spiderman movies at about the same level as the first 2 X-men movies. Solid C+, maybe B-. I have to disagree as far as the chemistry between Dunst and Maguire. You guys must have watched a different set of films because there is not a single scene in three films that can be pointed to that explains why they would be together or even attracted to each other. Granted this problem only became more glaring after the TASM films because Peter and Gwen's relationship is not only believable but is the central focus. Even when i first watched Raimi's films though, there is zero chemistry on screen except between Peter and the villains. I hated Maguire and still do watching these movies today (he constantly looks like he is actively crapping himself and his voiceover sounds like he just took an Ambien) but i liked the villains and the overall campy feel Raimi shot for. It's just not how i prefer my Spider-Man. Andrew Garfield will always be my ideal film version of the web-slinger and i really feel like TASMs' and MCUs' also do a great job of capturing NYC.
SPOILER WARNING FOR NO WAY HOME:
However, i loved Tobey in NWH. His performance was nuanced and perfect as the older Parker. As Coy said there, this was the Tobey Maguire other fans must have seen in the Raimi films. This made me wish Raimi hadn't made Peter such an unlovable doofus and that Tobey got a chance to be in a solo 'real' Spidey film.
Wait I am confused. I never said they had amazing chemistry, did I? Hmmm, I don't disagree with what you said hence thrown off.
@@TheKristianHarloff Oh sorry, i should have clarified, it was Coy who brought up Dunst and Maguire's chemistry.
Man, this episode was so much fun
Thank you!
🔥 🔥🔥
Thanks!
You guys are way too in the weeds on the MCU stuff. There’s no way all that deep diving timeline variant BS matters at all. The MCU has to appeal to a wide audience and getting into all the weeds with multiverses and variants and timelines makes the average viewer turn their brain off.
We shall see.
"Harry didnt have that" in regards to a loving family member... underselling Bernard... "the blade that pierced his body came from his trailer!" Lmao
Haha
I’d rather watch you three talk about that movie than rewatch it myself. 😂
Well thank you!
I love Coy’s enthusiasm but I’m get on the verge of panic attacks listening
Oh no!
This is a movie I loved as a kid and it got me into the superhero film genre! However, the cheesy tone does hold this movie back and watching this movie today and comparing it to something like captain america civil war it doesn't hold up on repeat viewings !
Hey Jermaine can I ask how you found the rewatch series?
@@TheKristianHarloff Hey man, I found these videos because I typed in no way home on youtube and your rewatch video of far from home came up dude!
@@jermainehaslam5634 Love that! Well welcome to the channel my friend! These are avail in podcast form also if you like listening to them! Hope you enjoy your time on the channel Jermaine! Welcome!
@@TheKristianHarloff Thank you Kristian!
The part at roughly 43:00 minutes in was pure gold. When Kristian does the Harry move pretending that "he just heard about the movie", etc...
I'm watching these re-watches in reverse order (I was mostly curious about Spider-Man 3, then listened to you to Amazing Spider-Man and now I did Spider-Man 2 and this one. Looking forward to your re-watch of Amazing 2, all of these were great! Super happy with this format, people can clearly tell you guys are having a blast. :-)
Thank you very much! Glad you are enjoying them! We have Star Wars rewatches on the channel now and Matrix is next after Spidey.
@@TheKristianHarloff I think I'll enjoy your takes on the original trilogy of Star Wars and then possibly the prequels, especially if you look at them in context.
But I can't watch anyone fanboy out over The Last Jedi. ^^
That movie more or less killed my fandom for Star Wars and anyone that's stanning hard for that movie is ... well... not quite dead to me, but let's just say I tend to not enjoy listening to them afterwards. So I think it's best for me to not watch that re-watch unless someone is on the panel that's talking about the 5 million things in that movie that make absolutely no sense.
I grew up with Tobey so he will always be my Spider-Man however I do enjoy Miles from spider verse
Can't wait to rewatch Spider-Verse!
Awesome, awesome discussion! Winston and Coy are aces. Pleas invite Bonnie for Spider-Man 2 if for no other reason than to provide friendly-neighborhood chaos.
Ha not sure if we can get her in time but maybe a phone call!
Great discussion 🙂👍
Thank you!
I love the mcu just as much as the next fan, but goddamn can we focus on the actual raimi film? There is so much you could fill up in a segment about this movie, and the fact that we are comparing and contrasting so hard with the mcu is kinda disheartening
In their defense, the only reason they're doing this is bcuz of what the MCU is about to do
@@DC3328 Well that is unfortunate, for a movie channel to only talk about a movie because of the next entry in a franchise.
@@incognitofool6516 There are probably dozens of other videos that just talk about these movies without referencing the MCU. Whole point of this is to rewatch them and talk about how they might play into the MCU in the future.
@@R17759 No, that isnt the point. The point is, to talk about the film itself. There is nothing wrong with speculating on the future, but when an hour of this video is dedicated to theories and future movies, it misses the point of a rewatch.
We def got distracted no doubt but this one ties in so much that it became a fun point of discussion.
I don't know if I agree with the theory that the Tom Holland version is the one that goes to the world with the Tobey Maguire version, but it's definitely interesting. The conversation and theories were all fun to listen to.
Thought it was interesting for sure!
I have watched these movies countless times since they first released. The second is still one of my favorite superhero films. Just the amount of play the practical spidey suit gets and how good it looks compared to the overused CG in the MCU. With Holland you don't have the quiet moments of Peter sitting with his thoughts, contemplating his shitty life like in the Raimi films. There is definitely some nostalgia having watched them as a teenager, but there isnt a hint of rose on these glasses.
Looking forward to discussing #2!
This was tremendous
Thank you!
Don't hate me but tobeys Peter parker might be the most annoying lead of any superhero movie he looks like he's on the verge of crying every second lol.
Lots of people feel this way!
@@TheKristianHarloff I enjoyed the movies at the time and still respect them but a lot about those movies annoy me now lol.