REWATCH! The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - The Big Thing
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ส.ค. 2024
- The Amazing Spider-Man 2 came out in 2014 and was the second movie with Andrew Garfield playing the famous web crawler. Jamie Foxx and Dane Dehaan joined the cast with Emma Stone. It was the last Sony Marvel film without the MCU attached.Join us for this rewatch of the film and how it ties into the MCU's Spiderman, No Way Home.
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The emotional beats in this movie hit like a freight train for me
There are some good ones for sure!
There’s something about the chemistry between Kristian, Winston & Coy that I love, I hope these continue after No Way Home comes out in some form.
We will be doing The Batman movies together for sure.
One thing that really bums me out is that Chris Cooper as Norman Osborne/Green Goblin would have been really good
So good.
This is one of my favorite things to watch or listen to. Love Kristian, Winston and Coy. I legit get mad when I see the preview drop on Thursday and I can’t watch until Friday. Keep up the great work.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Andrew Garfield is the best live action Spiderman/Peter. This movie has some of the best Spiderman moments put to film
He is a great Spidey
This was an awesome rewatch discussion:) thank you for really making a focus on community. If it wasn’t for this community we wouldn’t have a channel. The feeling of having so many people engaged and having fun and loving being a geek has been amazing. Kristen please keep up all the work your doing. You inspire me to always grow and change and always get better. I think that’s why our channel has changed so much this year because we have modeled it off of always getting better like you have. Keep it up and we will always find ways of supporting and pointing people to your amazing content.
Thank you kindly and very glad to have you part of it! thanks for the comment!!
@@TheKristianHarloff super welcome :) thankful for a great group :)
H bun and white bread piiiil
Ohhhhh, this movie. Yes, the suit in this looked great. Yes, Garfield and Stone did their best and had great chemistry together. But the writing was terrible, the editing was terrible, the villains were all underwhelming, the pacing was awful, it was overstuffed with far too much stuff and yet it still felt like there was a lot missing here, and the score is one of Hans Zimmer’s worst (IDK what Pharrell Williams was thinking with the Electro stuff). But most of all, I will never forgive this movie’s big twist: revealing Peter’s dad mixed Peter’s DNA into the radioactive spider, making it so that Peter was basically predetermined to be Spider-Man. That pretty much erased what makes the character so relatable to people and it just pissed me off so much.
Yeah overall, it is a bit of a bummer
This movie still holds a special place in my heart. It's the quintessential 90's Todd McFarlane Spiderman.
I can see that
I feel like both of these Amazing Spider-Man movies are like the Star Wars prequels, to where even though majority of people don’t really like them, there’s a strong fan base who defend these movies especially compared to the Raimi and MCU films.
I agree
My favorite Spider-Man movie, never been afraid to admit that even with all its flaws! Fun episode today once again :)
Thank you!
Gwen's death in amazing Spiderman 2 was heart breaking. Marc Webb did a great job on that impact
It is tough for sure!
I have been waiting for this rewatch since the start of the Spider-Man rewatch.
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@TheKristianHarloff loved every second it!
What a fantastic episode today guys! Great chemistry b/w these 3. Coy talks so fast sometimes it makes me so anxious 😥 but I love it hahaha cheers!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Its funny that Gwen's dad is in this movie. On a behind the scenes clip for the first movie, the actor said he'll do whatever it takes to be in the second one like being a vision haunting Peter, which is what happened.
Yeah Leary is great
I love these rewatch reviews, they're so much fun! I feel like I'm having a chat with friends :)
Love hearing that!
These reviews are absolutely fantastic! Thank you so much for this awesome content. Congrats on 20k subscribers bro! Awesome!
Glad you like them! Thank you, please subscribe to us on podcast form when you get a chance!
@@TheKristianHarloff been did that bro
I wonder if Garfield will still be struggling with the death of Gwen in No Way Home. Since Green Goblin was the only villain that overlaps between Maguire and Garfield, it will be interesting to see how Garfield reacts to another version of Goblin/Osborn.
I wonder, depends on how long has passed.
Wasn’t really a fan of ASM 2, but I love hearing insights from different perspectives. I think I liked the off-topic tangents in this ep a bit more than the actual film discussion lol. Great episode as always fellas!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love this rewatch series you're doing. Learnt a lot, and found new appreciation for the films in many ways. Keep up the excellent work.
Thanks, will do!
I didnt like the blood thing when the Movie released either but my sibling gave a new perspective that this version of Peter/Spidey is nothing more than a Lab Rat, an Experiment. Being Spider-Man is not Genetic its a Choice.
Anyway Great job guys with this one.
I like it more now that I know that we can chalk it up to another universe. The same as Tobey having the webs in his body.
@@TheKristianHarloffAgreed
This whole rewatch series has been insanity
Thank you! Enjoying the Star Wars ones as well?!
Really excited for this episode, Kristian. This movie is far from perfect but the new suit, swinging around NYC, and Peter and Gwen relationship are just so good in my opinion. And her death is truly heartbreaking, mostly due to Garfield's amazing performance. Looking forward to hearing your guys' thoughts!
Hope you enjoyed the full ep!
Love Both Amazing Spider 🕷 Man movies. The Death of Gwen Stacy gets me, every time…. EVERY TIME 😢😢😢!!! ☺️
Great chemistry!
Coy is so biased against Tobey that he literally made up amazing Spider-Man doing better at the box office than the raimi movies
Haha, yeah that didn't seem right to me.
As someone who lives in Virginia, THANK YOU because it’s been a rough week and I really needed that joke!!
:)
Sorry to break your heart Coy but that’s the basement of strange’s sanctum, not the garage from the TASM universe 😭
Thank you for sharing!
We got this garbage movie the same year the MCU gave us Captain America The Winter Soldier; & Guardians of the Galaxy; & Fox gave us X-Men Days of the Future Past. That’s how badly Sony dropped the ball with this movie
Too much going on.
In regards to the Miles Morales thing: Miles is straight. At the time ASM2 came out, people were speculating that he could be gay (because at that point he still hadn't had a love interest) and iirc Andrew was saying he'd like to explore the idea of Pete being bi
It really doesn't matter
We will see where it all goes!
I love this trio so much. Kristian, I really think you should consider trying to make this trio reviewing superhero movies and maybe even TV shows a more consistent thing. Maybe not weekly if it's too much for your schedules, but you three have a great dynamic and I love the discussion you guys have. I hope you guys do the Batman movies like you mentioned.
Appreciate that! We will be doing No Way Home together and then a few more after that!
I think that the preceeding Spiderman films are exactly what they had to be.
Fair enough!
This is my favourite Spider-man film and I'm proud to admit it, I never thought it was cramped with loads of villains at all like so many people keep saying, because the rhino only appears in the first 5-10 mins of the beginning which sets up a normal day to day thing for spidey to stop the bad guys and again at the end. I will admit that maybe rhino should have just been in the beginning and the ending should have been just harry talking about the sinister six and the film ends at all the suits shown in Oscorp. I love how Harry has to deal with coming back to NY and reconnecting with Peter, his dad dying and finding out he has Norman's disease and that Peter is the one person that can help him and on top of that Harry having to run Oscorp. I loved Electro thought he was cool deffo looking forward for him coming bk into FFH and Gwen and Peters relationship is just beyond perfect and so upsetting when she dies, I so want an ASM3
Hey, love that, never apologize for your taste in film!
I'll watch anything with Winston in it even though he's lied to me about his name. That wound's gonna take some time to heal.
Hahaha, we have fun here!
One of the things I hated the most in this movie was the subplot about Harry thinking Spider Man’s blood will cure him from his disease. I thought Harry turning on Spider Man because he refused to help him felt forced just to rush his transformation into the Goblin. I never bought that turn.
Also, this movie was written by the same guys who wrote Star Trek Into Darkness (a really bad movie) and one of the dumbest things in that film was Khan having super blood that might cure Kirk. They literally just took that subplot from Into Darkness and put it in this film. Did they really think we will not notice it?
Coy’s look this episode is giving off “Bully Maguire” vibes.
Haha
Lmao I swore Harry did tell her "Bye Felicia" when they were in the office scene...
Haha
Another amazing show!
Thank you!
I sound like a broken record but I can’t say enough how much I’m loving all of this!
This is a broken record I am glad to keep hearing!
I remember watching Amazing Spider-Man 2 & when that mid-credit teaser scene from X-Men Days of the Future Past happened; I thought we were somehow going to see Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Man & Jennifer Lawrence’s Mystique in a future movie. Then I was greatly disappointed when I learned that scene was there because of an existing deal between Webb & Fox; in which Fox allowed Webb to direct the film if Sony would promote the X-Men film for free.
Yeah commercial basically.
Been loving these rewatches! :)
Lord of the Rings next? Or Batman?
Matrix first, then Batman, maybe Scream
@@TheKristianHarloff I’m there for all of them :)
I love this trio!! Keep it up please do a matrix re-watch
Kate Coy and I are doing Matrix, Winston back for The Batman rewatches
"And then we're gonna wrap up with Spider-Verse."
I mean, you three are going to do an episode for No Way Home once it comes out, right? RIGHT?!
Well of course
Glad to see the channel getting more and more subscribers!
I really liked the first Amazing Spider-Man, so it's a shame that this film is kind of a mess. I still think they could have steered this series back to the right direction with a third film, but I understand why they chose to give up and partner with Disney for another reboot.
Thank you! Yes we have been growing and putting a lot of emphasis on positive community and I think it is working!
If Sony doesn't get rid of AVI ARAD
Their cinematic universe isn't gonna last long
Uh oh
58:26 well, John Campea seemed to leak a photo from that scene itself and it looks like it’s with Charlie Cox’s Daredevil!
We shall see!
30:33 Yee! All 20 Schmoetoons are up on my channel. BINGE! BINGE! BINGE!
Yes they should!
Y’all are awesome. So level headed.
Thank you!
Late to the party with the Spider-man rewatches. I’m surprised Coy, with him knowing a lot of behind the scenes stuff, didn’t bring up the fact that MJ was originally in this film. Shailene Woodley was cast as MJ and filmed an entire subplot that was cut from the film 😳
HAppy you found the rewatches!
Really enjoying the rewatches!
Thank you! Only a few left!
Winston man how is this your second favourite? xD
Also you guys should see the notes Kevin Feige gave on this movie. He was completely spot on with all of them.
Where can I find those notes?
I think it’s all subjective when it comes to music, if you don’t like techno/dubstep, you most likely won’t like Electro’s theme.
For me personally, It’s my 3rd favorite Spidey Villain theme, behind Sandman’s and Green Goblin’s.
Nice
The three of you have a great dynamic on these rematches. This movie wasn't as bad as when I first saw it, still not a fan of the graduation scene it was just a bit much. For Homecoming just cause its my favourite Spider-Man movie, I will say the one maybe over looked part in regards to Uncle Ben is when Ned first finds out Peter is Spider-Man and talks about how he cant keep it a secret, there is part that I don't hear people mention where Peter talks about how he cant do this to his Aunt after what she has been through, it always got me as the scene that Ben is gone already but they could have done it better I think. I know some of my friends didn't notice it the first time.
Yeah I liked this one better than Spiderman 3 personally
Tom Hanks as Holland's Uncle Ben
That would be good
Once again love the chemistry between you guys and I have to say Amazing Spider-Man hands down was my favorite movie spider man series. Was sad when Amazing Spider-Man 3 didn't happen.
That is why I am excited to see how and if they all blend together!
Can you guys do a rewatch of Friday on a Friday? We can all get baked and laugh our asses off for a few hours.
Hahhaa who knows?! Maybe.
Uncle Ben wouldn’t necessarily have to be close to her age…MarisaTomei could bag a guy half her age if she wanted. She’s constantly getting hit on.
These reviews have been so fun
Thank you!
I find this movie more memorable than The Amazing Spider-Man (2012). I don't love it though. And, all 3 Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies each made more money than The Amazing Spider-Man (2012), with Spider-Man 3 (2007) reaching almost a billion with 890 M (more than Homecoming). Sorry if someone already said it (didn't see one in the comments though)
There are a lot of great moments.
Andrew Garfield is the Hayden Christensen of Spider-Man
Kind of
Can we just have re watches with you three.. I’ll take a rewatch matrix with you guys and also Kate abs do Indiana jones
Kate is going to do Matrix with me and Coy.
a men in black, 21 jump street crossover could work. Jenko and Schmidt as undercover mib recruits looking a mole.
Thank you! I appreciate it very much and happy everyone is enjoying the tone of the channel!
Yeah not for me but lots of people want that.
I’m with Coy. I have been proudly defending Garfield as my favorite Spider-Man. He and Stone do such a great job as Peter and Gwen. I always believed that Tobey is liked more because of nostalgia and the movies were a bit better, but Garfield embodies the character so much better.
So curious to see how it pans out in No Way Home!
I don't think I saw this one all the way through since it was in theaters, but I remember liking it. As a casual viewer, it's enjoyable, but for people who are fans of the comics, I get why they wouldn't like it. Although, it still bothered me when Gwen died. I knew that happened in the comics before going to see it, but I was hoping the movie would avoid it.
Yeah it is not horrible, but it is not good.
Amazing conversation! For next week are you going to do a little bit of Civil War and Homecoming (For chronological purposes)? Either way I can't wait till next weeks conversation!
Maybe so!
In an 8-episode X-Men series you could do 6 character introduction episodes that all end with them going to Prof. X's school. Then the last two episodes are against the Brotherhood or Magneto. They lose their first confrontation, then learn to work as a team for the finale. BOOM! You can have that one for free, Feige!
Love that idea.
Actually I think this Peter Parker is A Spectrum and not Electro.
Kristian basically recreated what made Collider awesome. This is a good way to do it.
Very nice of you to say.
Steve Carrell as Uncle Ben
Not a crazy choice.
Dream-team reviewers right here! You guys could review C-SPAN and I'd watch 😂😂
haha thank you!
Nerd life is good life. It's just so great to have hosts who know and love the books. Coy and Winston are awesome.
Thanks! -Oh wait :(
45:06 and where were they running to? Those steps don't go anywhere
Haha
56:15 note to self
Haha
I kinda have to agree with Winston. Maybe not in the rankings, but I preferred this movie to the last Garfield one. He felt more natural as the character of Peter Parker. I liked the villains, the action, the suit... this movie is very flawed, but it felt more like a comic book and less like a Marc Webb teen drama. Then again, I'm a Maguire guy. Garfield always seemed to be trying to find the balance of the character and missing the mark half the time. He was better in this film. My old roommate argues with me about it all the time lol.
It definitely is a lot better than I remember, still not great but enjoyed a lot more than I remember.
This episode was a beautiful trainwreck. ^^
The chemistry between the three of you was so off the charts that I didn't even mind you wildly jumping from one topic to another.
As for the movie, I'm super happy Coy brought up the point about Gwen Stacy and the "controversy" of the movie changing one big question that Spider-Man had to live with forever and ever: Did he kill her or not. While I haven't exactly been around when this happened, I was very much aware of the history and how much it affected the character. I totally get that for a more casual fan they feel like Kristian and think "hasn't he gone through enough with Uncle Ben?" and to that I say "yes, but... why in the world did they have to rush through all of this?"
I mean, just have them have a real relationship for 1.5 movies and then in the NEXT movie they can shock the world with the death of Gwen Stacy. They also don't have to rush the Goblin development in this movie as much.
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Totally different topic: Kristian, you mentioned that you're doing the entire editing all by yourself. Are you using a StreamDeck? (or an iPad with some software solution that basically allows you to do the same thing, etc.?)
Because it makes your life SO MUCH easier when you're livestreaming and you need to switch from scene to scene, etc.
Just put it on an Amazon wish list and throw that out in the world, I'm sure a couple of fans will be hardcore enough to buy you a new Christmas present that can help make an even better show. :-)
Running this through OBS
I love this show. It's fun. Does this mean you have to watch Venom & Venom 2?
No, they won't be part of this series but possible that we watch them in future leading to something else.
I always liked the score for this film!!! I liked the film when it came out, but hated upon rewatch years later. The best moment was Gwen's death, the way her head hit the floor was like DAMN!!!!!! I've got to watch it again.
This rewatch series was a lot of fun!
How did you guys time up TLJ and Amazing Spider-Man 2 in the same week? Gotta tell me that was on purpose.
Ha no, just happened!
I’m an Amazing Spider-Man 2 apologist. Especially since the emotional beats slam into you like a freight train in spite of its flaws. Spider-Man is defined by loss and optimism and I think Garfield’s performance reflects that the best out of the 3. Everything with Gwen and Aunt May is perfection while Green Goblin and Mech Suit Guy lol was absolutely awful.
With subsequent viewings, I don’t feel as negatively toward Electro as I first did. Something about him works. I do wish they scrapped the whole thing with his parents. That subplot is unnecessary. The action is crisp. Spider-Man has never looked better. And as much as I love Holland. We didn’t need him. We had a great Spider-Man. But I suppose we’re lucky to have two great Spider-Man’s. Even if one of them is in flawed films. (The Amazing Spider-Man is better than it gets credit for though.)
You 3 are dope. The discourse is great.
Thank you and agree that the emotional beats are powerful!
When I watched the movie I definitely didnt think it was as bad as everyone said it was
Yeah it actually holds up better than I remember.
56:10 that's so funny. KH is right, there'd be some tension b/c Tomei is fine and looks more like his Garfield had a friend with a hot, older sister 😂.
Personally, if we're talking multiverse, trying to bag your otherworldly, sort of, but not really aunt who looks like Tomei? Okay by me, shoot your web brother.
On the song choice during his montage deal. My opinion, seeming Johnny Marr worked on the score with hanz... If they were to use any song. They should have asked to use please please by the Smiths (which Johnny was famous for being in). I think it was a missed opportunity, and would have fit way way more than that happy type pop song. Because Pete wasn't happy. He was very distraught over his life..
Good point
@@TheKristianHarloff I added the song I was talking about, idk if it got copyright claimed lol probably did but if not. Guess it'll work th-cam.com/video/xg21Q51veao/w-d-xo.html
Another fantastic Spider-Man discussion.
Appreciate that!
this one is going to be a good conversation I really didn’t like this movie and I also think Sony didn’t know what to do when it came to this movie it has tons of lows and a couple of highs in my opinion I really liked the suit. This movie felt like watching a video game by the way the special effects looked the teased the sinister six then that was it and rhino was completely wasted in this movie I wished that they would’ve made him into a better villain. This movie feels like Spider-Man 3.1 with once again too many villains, kinda dull story and just a mess.
I'll say it I've been joking around about this but I actually think it could work out only 7 years in age difference. Sam Rehmi is directing Doc Strange 2, he works with his friends. He's in the Disney family Uncle Ben= Bruce Campbell. Hail to the king Baby only 7 years age difference between him and Melissa. It could work.
Campbell would be interesting.
Don’t think they will do Spider-Gwen because then the movie is just ripping off Into The Spider-verse. Which I believe Kevin Feige would be highly against. Also Jon Hamm as Uncle Ben.
You make a good point.
The best review for this movie and I can't remember who said it was this movie is like an ice sundae covered in poop lol. So much stuff works in this movie but it's covered in stuff that doesn't work. I still don't get why they didn't have have Osbourne in the first movie or save his evil turn for the third movie .
Too much going on in this.
All I'll say is, thank god for Kevin Feige....
We are close.
Love this show!
Thank you!
I wonder, there's rumors that after No Way Home, Sony will take Holland's Spidey out of the MCU. If Tobey and Andrew are in this movie, Sony has three different Spider-Men to choose from, what do you think Kristian?
Coy has been saying this on our rewatches. Interesting theory for sure!!
It's very funny how Coy locked in on the "totem" storylines (that by the way were written by J. Michael Straczynski - the creator of Babylon 5 (among a couple other things) ).
I loved those when I read them, partly because they followed the run by Howard Mackie, which was the most atrocious Spider-Man run I've ever read. So everyone welcomed something new... however, years later, I spoke to a hardcore comic book fan (owner of a comic book store) and he said he absolutely hated that storyline. Firstly, it basically invalidated years of Spider-Man development... secondly, almost as soon as JMS was out, they more or less retconned the whole thing and it didn't have any lasting effects on the overall story anyway.
I thought that while I still appreciated these comics when I read them, he had some excellent points and I could understand why people weren't head over heels over it. I'm actually surprised Coy liked them as much as he did because he's usually pretty big on background story and sticking to the core idea of a character.
Yeah Coy liked it a lot.
Reposted from the Rewatch episode 2 -
I hope you reassemble this crew Kristian, to also cover Morbius and Doctor Strange 2, as the crew is very good, the closest we have to the old Heroes show at the moment.
These above two films they look like they all tie in to tell a bigger story.. Much like a Marvel Comics event works, eg Civil War, where you don't have to read everything, but you get a bigger picture if you do. I had thought for a while that Doctor Strange 2 was going to help close the Spider-Man story out.
[Note: for some reason I had it in my head that Tom Holland appears in Doctor Strange 2, that being his last MCU use, but he isn't currently listed on IMDB for that movie. Could have been a spoiler from a Lego set that I got confused on.]
And from the sounds of it Venom 2 fits in, but it doesn't open in my country, New Zealand, until November 25. This might be why there hasn't been a second Spider-Man: No Way Home trailer yet... We can't be the only territory where it hasn't opened. [So we don't get spoilt on what happens during Venom 2...Like I just did off this video....No hard feelings thought, but you may want to put a warning in the description and keep it in mind for future vids.]
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I hope NWH ends with Tobey and Andrew getting 4th and 3rd films. I believe we’re at the point now we’re the general audience understands the point of the multiverse/simply being separate franchises.
That could be fun!
Been thinking about this one since Homecoming. What if Uncle Ben in MCU is Tobey? So when Tobey Spider-Man shows up in No Way Home we get the moment where Peter and Aunt May think it’s Ben until he says he’s Spiderman.
That would be interesting. Od though.
I’ve enjoyed this rewatch series, but I think it would have made for more interesting discussion if you had someone who loves the Tobey movies, it seems like you’re pretty much all on the same page that Andrew is better, but a lot of people (myself included) don’t feel that way. If you had this it would have felt like a more balanced discussion talking about the pros and cons for each portrayal. In a similar way to how you brought Riley on for the Last Jedi rewatch. I just feel like you have been too hard on the Raimi films imo
The reason for TLJ and Reilly is because everyone really hated that movie and Reilly was there to defend. The Tobey movies are liked by both myself and Winston. I happen to like them a lot. I just find them overrated but certainly recognize how instrumental they were to the genre.
@@TheKristianHarloff makes sense man, I wasn’t meaning to come across as complaining, maybe it’s just because the Raimi movies are my childhood haha! I completely respect the opinions you have on these films. I’ve been really enjoying these rewatch series for both Spider-Man and Star Wars!
The stuff between Peter & Gwen is the only things that work for me, everything else is really weak… I love Dane DeHaan, but he’s really underused as Harry here & his transformation into Goblin is hilariously mishandled!
Yeah it is their chemistry that makes the moments special in this movie
Best nerd talk on yt
Thank you!
I'm here to read the comment section 👀 looking for that Schnepp reaction part 2
Haha
I have the same shirt as Coy! 🤣
BOOM
The x-men scene was because Marc Webb owned fox a movie. But he wanted to do the amazing Spiderman 2 so Sony and fox made a deal
Ah
The only thing I remember about this movie was when gwen died my theater was dead silent and some dude said out loud she dead yo lol.
Ha poor Gwen.
Re-watched this yesterday for the first time in years.. and I was actually positively surprised. Some parts I didn't like (the parents struff, the goofy doctor, and Max..) but overall I enjoyed it.
Def not as bad but still had a lot that wasn't great!