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"5:32" -- Alesis "8:37" -- Roland Go:Piano 88 "11:34" -- Korg B2N "16:38" -- Casio CDP-240 "19:57" -- Yamaha P45 / P71 (basically the same, so, per Jeremy See, prefer the P71) "23:11" -- Roland FP-10 (approx. $499)
I went with the pink grand piano from Fisher Price. I see now that I was duped but that built in microphone seemed so awesome when the salesman was pitching it to me.
@@JeremySee honestly I've been binging your beginner videos on which one to get. Only thing I'm looking for now is what some of these things mean over all
@@JeremySee is there a digital piano that does everything thats under 300 dollars? Also what is the best digital piano you have reviewed under 300 dollars? Sorry if I'm asking to many questions I see a lot of people asking questions.
There's an old joke about the man who spent his whole life looking for the perfect woman. When he found her it didn't work out, because she was looking for the perfect man.... So, yeah. None are perfect, but then, the players aren't perfect either. Don't waste time. Jump in. Unlike personal relationships, if it doesn't work out, or you outgrow it, you can move on by placing an add on Craigs List....
jfan4reva definitely not similar enough to refer the joke. As both parties in the joke are able to think independently and the keyboard is just an affordable prize
This is without a doubt the best video on TH-cam covering the beginner piano keyboard options. Thank you so much. You've separated them into two groups and covered their advantages, resale value, and disadvantages in a clear, informative but consise way. Utterly superb content. Thanks.
Only requirement I disagree with is the built in metronome. Almost everyone has a smart phone and the smartphone metronome apps have many more features than the built in metronomes. Other than that, your critiques of these inexpensive pianos is extremely comprehensive. I'm learning about instruments I didn't know anything about. The cons about each instrument is extremely valuable to know.
Thank you so much for this review!! When I was younger I played keyboard/piano but lost interest at some point. Now, some 15 years later, I wanted to start over again and I struggled a bit with finding the right instrument. Out of all the videos I've watched yours has been the most helpful one. You have a great way of presenting and I really appreciate your honesty throughout the video. In the end I now decided to go with the Roland FP-10 and was even able to find a well-priced bundle offer. It'll probably take another few weeks until it arrives here but I'm already so excited to start playing on it. Thanks again & lots of love from Germany
Yo me compré hace como 1 año un Roland FP-30. Me di cuenta que salía mucho más barato comprarlo en Estados Unidos o en europa que en México y justo tuve una oportunidad de oro porque mi padre en un viaje por su trabajo fue a España, entonces le dije que pasara a ver en alguna tienda musical los pianos y efectivamente estaba mucho más barato (recuerdo que en México estaba como en 20'000 y a el costo como 12'000 ya haciendo el cambio de euros a pesos) Perdón padre por hacerte cargar un piano digital por todo el aeropuerto de regreso. Tenía miedo de que le fueran a decir algo por exceso de peso o de volumen pero al parecer no le dijeron nada y hasta lo pusieron en algún lugar especial para cosas frágiles. Gracias a esa oportunidad hoy tengo mi Roland FP-30 que me salió súper barato, cómo a la mitad de precio de lo que decía el vídeo de hecho.
This video is a dream crusher for me knowing that I dont even have the money to even buy one, though its very imformative and I have learned a lot starting from those requirements before buying. I cant help it but to save money until i could buy one. Thank you for the vid!
I really want to get into piano. I played guitar for around 10 years now and want to check out another instrument. Thanks for the guide and wish me luck learning the piano😁
I agree, just wrote a comment here a few moments ago. I bought a Roland RD2000 after having bought two other keyboards before that because of quite a lot of bad recommendations by sellers and love it. Finally a good one. So tips for the more expensive ones are highly appreciated.
I was slightly confused when some of the links didn't lead to the same pianos in the review, but I was able to use the information here to inform my decision and am glad that the links still went to comparable pianos. Thank you very much for doing these reviews! Super excited to have a piano at my new house that'll remind me of the one at my Parents whilst actually being 'easily' portable :)
I got a P71today ridiculously cheap because "4 keys broken". If so repair is not major. It wasn't. A few things came loose and within an hour, perfect! WOWIE!! Sounds amazing, or at least it will after following your lessons. Thx Jeremy
For beginners who really want to practice their fingers and basic skills, personally, I think the key actions are the most important thing to consider at first. Therefore, I strongly don't recommend the digital pianos that don't have the escapement mechanism in their key actions. Because you have to ensure that the action is close enough to an acoustic piano so you won't be confused when you switch between them. Pianos like Yamaha P-45/105/115/125, which uses GHS action, have the simplest action and sensor inside them. They're playable, but also nothing close to the real piano actions. When you practice some skillful pieces like Chopin's or Debussy's, their poor actions and sensors will hold you back. And please, check for weight balance between the black and white key. Casio PX-S1000 and S3000 does really bad at this (black keys are lighter than the white keys). I'm using Roland's FP-30, which I think is a great choice for beginners. If too expensive, FP-10 also will do. They're using PHA-4 Standard action that comes with the escapement, which is not perfect (keys feel too heavy when playing some fast pieces), but good enough for the entry-level. On Yamaha's side, you can see how expensive the pianos are that come with GH3X or NWX actions. GH3 action is good, but still feels "wrong" when I'm playing the CLP-635. I heard that some Nord and Kawai's digital pianos also have decent actions, but I have never tried them before so I'm not making any comments.
- I've also found that it's important to get the best (most suitable) combination of touch sensitivity setting and volume level as different combinations give different "actions" . For example (I have the P125): setting the touch sensitivity to soft gives a brighter sound which makes the action feel "lighter" - I'm getting more sound for my effort; whereas setting it to heavy gives a more mellow sound - I have to play harder to get the same sound. And of course the volume level setting affects that as well. On the soft setting it feels more like I'm playing a Yamaha grand and requires mus less effort, whereas with the heavy setting and the volume just slightly lowered the touch-to-response feels more like a heavier Steinway.
I went with the FP-10 about a year ago after playing the P125 and Privia. Action, weighting, and feeling of the keys was far superior (the others felt like plastic toys compared to the FP-10) and I’ve never once had a second thought about buying it. I wish it had a better Wurlitzer sound built in but that’s its only shortfall in my mind (besides the cheap included sustain pedal which you mentioned).
All things considered, is the Yamaha P-125 a better choice than the Roland FP-10? I 'm between the two, and I 'll stick to what I 'll buy for a long time. Anyone with experience on both of these care to share an opinion?
I'm a classically-trained pianist and find the P125 can be set up to be a great practice instrument. I set the touch to heavy and turn the volume slightly lower than an acoustic piano - that way I can play more firmly and it helps develop my finger strength so that when I go to the acoustic grand it actually feels easier to play! :-) The other voices and features are excellent quality as well (I'm also an organist and can practice that as well) -
this is such a great video!! im trying to look for a piano keyboard just to entertain myself and this video is a great help! thank you for mentioning all the pros and cons and they're all budget friendly
Thank you Jeremy!! I think the FP10 is worth the price and I loved the sound when I tried it last year (can't test it again because covid)--so that's what I'm going to get!!
@@JeremySee omg you're right I just looked it up haha--I'm in California so I was checking Sweetwater and they have both the Roland FP10 and Yamaha P45 on back order! It's okay no rush for me, but it's good to see that you're guiding new players towards very good instruments. It's very important and will make learning enjoyable so thank you again !!
This video just saved me from buying an "electronic keyboard" full of buttons and "bells and whistles" but met none of your basic checklist requirements. I'm not ausician but my daughter is a serious oboe student and needs to develop some proficiency on piano; she also said it would be helpful in advancing herusic theory studies. Thank you!
I think it's brilliant that Korg includes a fullsize single pedal in its B2 series, even if the pedal itself doesn't support half pedalling. I use half pedalling with a proper wooden stand and pedal board (this for my Yamaha) but I find half-pedalling with a single (portable) pedal impossible. So is it worth doing that upgrade just for a single pedal to get half pedalling? I don't think so, particularly not when we're only talking about beginner pianos.
@jeremy see I'll put this question to you, but I will also accept answers from anyone else who is familiar with the keyboard or software I had used. I used a Casio lk-280 and a piece of software after I had been playing a short time called "The Logic Behind Music" which taught me a lot of music theory. My weakness to this day is that I am essentially musically illiterate and cannot play anything by sheet music. I got about 2/3 the way through each of the songs on the keyboard (,it had 102 total). I learned them all from rendering tones, notes and the progression of the songs. What do you suggest or recommend? I've considered something like "Synthesia" to learn so I can follow the notes visually while associating the tones with locations on the keyboard. (Which I now know which keys are which note in which octive.)
I started playing piano on my girlfriends Yamaha P45 before buying an incredible Kawaii for almost 3 times the price, I probably spend a third of my practice time on the P45 and i am very happy to play it, the piano sounds are decent but the speakers don't do the bass notes justice and you really can't play gently, the keys are pretty heavy but as a result very forgiving for a beginner.
I recommend CDP S100 or FP-10 for those focusing on advanced jazz technique, especially techniques popularized by pianists like McCoy Tyner, Red Garland, Bud Powell and Bill Evans
Thank you for the advice. I am a guitarist and I want to buy a piano for my little daughter and have no idea which one to choose. Thanks to your video now I have a better understanding.
Those videos are important. It took me buying 3 keyboards and selling two of them after using them for only 3-6 month until I finally bought the one I really liked, the Roland RD2000. Expensive but not compared to a real piano. I really needed the best possible and fun to play keybed and enough sounds implemented. Also I needed lots of physical controls as I hate to dive into menus to change a layer or split. As a piano player I had no clue about digital keyboards, workstations, arrangers and the differences. Had to learn the hard way. Love your videos although they mostly cover the cheaper range but that's ok.
Dear friend I've made a terrible mistake. I never knew about weighted keys....... I started out piano in grade 4 with a Casio wk 1200. My sir never me any sort of classical music other than scales and chords. I quit playing the piano as I didn't get time cuz of my drum lessons and band practices not to mention a lot to study for the skipped classes. I only practices what I knew like sings such as unravel river flows in you blue bird all of me and believer. I got bored and stored piano. Few days ago I got my determination back from watching your lie in April. It moved me very much. But when I came back I discovered about sighted keys and such. I'll practice like there's no tomorrow or so I thought. I don't know what to. I need lessons but due to corona.... I was planning to learn from flow key as many suggest it and say it's the best among simply piano playground and such. Please tell me what I must do ?? My dream is to master the piano and play my heart out in classical music. I don't care time. I'll practice practice practice until I reach perfection. But now..... Mind the autocorrect
@@canadiansoul9401 likewise !!!! I'm a classically-trained pianist and find the P125 can be set up to be a great practice instrument. I set the touch to heavy and turn the volume slightly lower than an acoustic piano - that way I can play more firmly and it helps develop my finger strength so that when I go to the acoustic grand it actually feels easier to play! :-) The other voices and features are excellent quality as well (I'm also an organist and can practice that as well) -
Such a great video, packed with good information. To the point, and well delivered. I like how you started with the criteria first, so I didn't have to wait until the video was over to determine whether this list was relevant to me. Thank you so much!
Excellent as usual! 👍 In a testament for Jeremy's eloquence, with each piano he presented I was prone to buy it , even with the shortcomings. I am glad Jeremy finished the list at $499! LOL
Jeremy... noted a minor error in your video... from piano player's perspective, @3:13 "the higher notes towards the LEFT side of the piano" -- should be "RIGHT" Was reading and taking notes from the transcript. Thank you for posting this video as it is informing me of things I need to look for in a keyboard for my son who has just begun piano lessons about 3 months ago! I ordered a Yamaha DGX-670 in March, but it's on back order and they keep projecting deliveries to be a month out, beginning in April, then May, now June 22-- it will probably pushed back another month the way things are going. I understand it all plays into the various supply chain issues (chips, parts, shipping, etc.). So I am looking at other options now, just in case Yamaha can't deliver on time or delays become too prolonged. The last thing I want to end up with is a keyboard that's been sitting in a shipping container for months either offshore or in a shipping yard and collecting mold/rust/mice/rats/exotic pests (you get my point). My only problem right now is that the vendor already sold and delivered to me the stand and pedal unit-- hopefully, all goes well with Yamaha and the vendor from here forward!
Thank you very much for the reviews. I am looking for a piano for my daughter, who is already at her adulthood. I expect the piano should be of such quality that my daughter would not lose motivation.
Hey there, How much do you recommend a Midi Keyboard. I have a doubt, please give your best suggestion if you can, The Question: is it better to purchase a 61 key midi controller instead of a normal Professional arranger? I would like to use for practice, performing and recording purposes. I actually choose Korg Pa600. But then i thought it's better to purchase a Midi key+DAW studio setup, which is costing me less than Korg pa600 budget. So, what is your suggestions? Thanks !
I have to disagree with some things. I bought a used yamaha ypt 230. It doesn't have 88 keys, and its not touch sensitive. For new players with little space or money I use it well enough to learn chords. I think its perfect for learning
Hi, I've been thinking to buy the Casio CT-S300, do you recommend it for beginners? I can't afford anything more expensive than that. I would appreciate the help.
Thank you for this video, I was able to afford the first piano (Alesis Recital), initially, I was going to buy Casiotone. I did receive it in 25 th of July, and I still play on it as a beginner almost every day.
I like how you talk :D Since I'm not a native english speaker, it's very clean to me how you pronounce the words so I don't need to pause the video to repeat what you just meant (y)
Hey Jeremy! I’ve been eyeing a digital piano that seems to meet all the marks according to the few existing reviews I’ve seen (Except the headphones, however that doesn’t concern me as much). I’m hesitant because this piano is brandless or at least by a small brand. Should I be concerned about the branding despite it meeting 7/8 of your requirements? Thanks and great job on the video!
I'm considering buying a digital piano for beginners. You explain so well, unbiased opinions. It's making me easier to consider my best choice. Out of all your considerations, so far the Roland fits well for my preference. Thank you for your advice.
Subscribed to you Teacher Jeremy! I am going to start my journey during this pandemic. I have all the time! I have candle-like fingers and didn’t do well with guitars. I am trying my luck in a piano (which is my first option ever since I was a kid). It seems so far when I was a child but now that I’m an adult and in my 20s, I am determined to start working in making my dreams in music come true!
Yeah I looked for it too tried to buy it from b&h cause they said it would be in stock mid June when it was late May. Waited till mid June then it switched to mid July 😢. Just gave up and went for a Korg b2sp
@@andrewwexler4779 I've been considering the Korg b2sp. My main concerns are (1) acosutic piano sound; (2) touch/feel/action. From what I've seen---heard---on YT, the 3 grand piano sounds are quite good, better than those on competitors that cost several hundred dollars more. Also, I want a furniture style stand. And, the Korg comes with that for $600 (July 2020) which beats Yamaha, Kawai, Casio, Roland by $200-$350. Question: how do you like the sound of the Korg?? Thanx.
@@kantib.anondewar8769 I got the Korg B2 because the Roland is still on back order. Korg cost me £319 whereas the Roland is £449. I don't think the Roland justifies that price difference.
I'm thinking of getting a digital piano to try learning a little contemporary music, nothing fancy classical or such, and I'm looking at something relatively cheap. The cheapest I can find with weighted keys is about 300 USD (in Sweden, so somewhat higher prices) and that would be semi-weighted with 88 keys. I started looking at used ones though, as you can get great deals if you have a little patience and look around a bit and I managed to find a Yamaha P45 for about 300 USD (which includes shipping which is about 118 USD in itself!), but the real kicker is it also includes the optional stand in that price :) Seeing as the lowest price for the P45 without the stand (and not including shipping) I can find in Sweden seems to be 486 USD this seems like a pretty solid deal. It's on your list and despite a few drawbacks it's a pretty good one (I have a feeling 64 polyphony will never be a limit for me :) ) I'd look for a used Korg but if the aps are all for iOS anyway, well :) If I can learn Black Holes (Don't Hold On), The End (Stars Always Seem to Fade) and Escape the Mind (all by The Warning), and maybe Scarlet from Ayashi no Ceres on it I'm going to be fine :p
I stopped play piano last year after my teacher died, 1 or 2 month ago, i ordered p520, the shop told me that it was hard to find it because of covid, i thought i would have received it in the middle of july, i want to work hard all summer. Unfortunately, i think i ll have it for September 😭 im so pissed off because i m going to college and i ll not have so much time.. 😢
Love your videos man, I'm in the market for getting a piano and was originally going for the Casio CDP-S350, where would it fall into this list and which is better in comparison with the Roland FP-10?
@@JuanPablo-gr5pp For me personally, the FP-10 had noisy keys straight out of the box. 3 days later they became super loud, and the flat E4 got completely stuck. Needless to say, I had to return it.
Jeremy - writing to you from Canada. After having purchased a Roland FP-10 recently, I was happy you find your independent review. I’m certain I’ll not outgrow this instrument for some time, and I expect to upgrade to another Roland in a few years. Continued success to you.
thanks for this video, I used to have a keyboard as a child and loved it until my mom threw it away because it annoyed her. I've always wanted to play piano and I plan on asking for one this christmas or birthday!
I am an adult 22 beginner is the FP-10 Really the best one it costs $619 now and I’m about performance and sound quality is what I want in my first piano and of course all the other requirements you mentioned
Nice video! Do you think the Thomann Sp 5600 can be also as good as the ones you recommened? Because I was thinking about buying it due to the price and the nice specifications, but I don't know if it achieves all 8 requirements you listed. Ty!
As always: Casio got most features. But the sounds .... and bad to sell used. No value. I‘m stuck with a very pricey MZ-X500. Can‘t sell it even under 50% of the new price.
Thank you Jeremy for this great review! What affordable digital piano would you recommend that DOES include 1/4" stereo outputs? I can play okay currently and am confident that I will progress quickly, and want something I will not outgrow quickly and can use onstage for gigs. Best regards, Seán
Just recently caught your channel while looking at digital pianos. You're incredibly talented, fun to watch, and extremely knowledgeable! I'm 65 years young. Been playing guitar for about 40 years. I've bulit my own recording set up in my home. Music is a serious hobby of mine, but still a hobby. Thinking about adding a keyboard/digital piano to my set up because I love the instrument and its many sounds. I'm in between novice and intermediate as far as my skills on the piano are concerned. You have been a wealth of information. For my needs, there's a lot of great choices in the $700.00 and under range. Your videos have offered some great choices as well. I'm looking closely at the Studiologic Numa Compact 2 or the 2X. I realy like the fact that you don't have to menu dive to get to everything this product has. The sounds are just what i'm looking for and the prices for each are quite reasonable for what you get. Any thoughts? I would value your opinion! Thanks!!
Thank you for your kind words, Don. I would love to get my hands on a Numa Compact 2X, but unfortunately, StudioLogic isn't well distributed outside of the USA.
@@JeremySee Wow... Thanks for the quick reply. I plan to purchase before Christmas. I'll keep you posted. Untill then, I'll keep watching your great videos!
Thanks again for your vidios and opinions! I just ordered the StudioLogic Numa Compact 2X. It will arrive this Friday and I will spend the weekend getting acquainted with it!
My Alesis Recital's keys are weighted to 90 grams, I don't think they are semi-weighted. They are quite hard to play, and when playing I occasionally skip notes because I don't press the keys hard enough.
Hi, This is SK. I like the way u explained it. It is so easy to understand for me as a "real real" beginner. One thing I don't understand is the size of the key. You mentioned that buy with the full size key. How do I differentiate the full size key & any other size key. How many variation are their in the key size? How do I make decision that I am buying the right piano? please let me know. Thanks
Jeremy, I have a Clavinova CVP-405 and know several people that after hearing my 405 want to learn to play piano. I have spoiled them with my 405, and want to know what you recommend. I bought a DGX-660 to replace my Grand-Kids Yamaha YDP-233 (keys kept breaking) 3 years ago, but after seeing so many "Beginner Pianos" on TH-cam, I don't know where to begin given I would want a weighted action for any piano I would recommend.
I'm a classically-trained pianist and have the P125 - it's a great practice instrument. The other voices and features of the P125 are excellent quality as well (I'm also an organist and can practice that as well) -
Music stores can't afford to hire knowledgeable staff. Unfortunately
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Mine doesn't have weighted keys, I have a 76 key Yamaha portable Grand. Don't miss the half a dozen keys from the lowest and uppermost registry, but I do often ponder about weighted keys. Oh well.. Still, I enjoy rocking Wait for Sleep and the key solos from Learning to Live and of course the intro to The Final Countdown :) Cheers
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Great you cover a lot of countries. Most TH-camrs think the world has only 2 areas, US and UK.
What happened to the video you made about coronavirus?
P45 or P121 or P125??
Please give advice to make a decision for first piano
Hie, i was kindly asking if Flavian S-one 61 keys is a good keyboard to buy?
FYI: The links you provided in your original post and in your reply appear to be broken. I think the security certificate for the URL shortening service (geni.us) may have expired.
"5:32" -- Alesis
"8:37" -- Roland Go:Piano 88
"11:34" -- Korg B2N
"16:38" -- Casio CDP-240
"19:57" -- Yamaha P45 / P71 (basically the same, so, per Jeremy See, prefer the P71)
"23:11" -- Roland FP-10 (approx. $499)
what a legend
Thanks man 👍🏽
We need someone like you
Thanks!
Kawai es110??
I went with the pink grand piano from Fisher Price. I see now that I was duped but that built in microphone seemed so awesome when the salesman was pitching it to me.
At least you are having fun!
lol
😂😂😂
Had me there 😆
Hahah
Every piano you introduced feels like the one ,until you mention the disadvantages 🤣
That's why I am a REAL reviewer. Not like those music shop TH-cam videos.
Facts hahahaha
@@JeremySee honestly I've been binging your beginner videos on which one to get. Only thing I'm looking for now is what some of these things mean over all
I’m torn idk which one to pick 😐🥺
@@JeremySee is there a digital piano that does everything thats under 300 dollars? Also what is the best digital piano you have reviewed under 300 dollars? Sorry if I'm asking to many questions I see a lot of people asking questions.
me: hey!! this looks like a great piano!!
Jeremy see: So what I don't like about this piano...
I know how you feel...
There's an old joke about the man who spent his whole life looking for the perfect woman. When he found her it didn't work out, because she was looking for the perfect man....
So, yeah. None are perfect, but then, the players aren't perfect either. Don't waste time. Jump in.
Unlike personal relationships, if it doesn't work out, or you outgrow it, you can move on by placing an add on Craigs List....
@@jfan4reva Wait, it doesn't work for persons too? 🤔😁
jfan4reva definitely not similar enough to refer the joke. As both parties in the joke are able to think independently and the keyboard is just an affordable prize
@@jfan4reva honestly this is some pretty sound advice! Thanks!
This is without a doubt the best video on TH-cam covering the beginner piano keyboard options. Thank you so much.
You've separated them into two groups and covered their advantages, resale value, and disadvantages in a clear, informative but consise way. Utterly superb content. Thanks.
Thank you for your kind words.
Only requirement I disagree with is the built in metronome. Almost everyone has a smart phone and the smartphone metronome apps have many more features than the built in metronomes. Other than that, your critiques of these inexpensive pianos is extremely comprehensive. I'm learning about instruments I didn't know anything about. The cons about each instrument is extremely valuable to know.
Usually it's made a requirement due to the fact that its convenience will benefit those who have it as theyll be more compelled to use it
Thank you so much for this review!! When I was younger I played keyboard/piano but lost interest at some point. Now, some 15 years later, I wanted to start over again and I struggled a bit with finding the right instrument. Out of all the videos I've watched yours has been the most helpful one. You have a great way of presenting and I really appreciate your honesty throughout the video.
In the end I now decided to go with the Roland FP-10 and was even able to find a well-priced bundle offer. It'll probably take another few weeks until it arrives here but I'm already so excited to start playing on it.
Thanks again & lots of love from Germany
Jules Shkr How is it?
Jules Shkr
Did it come yet?
Liking it so far?
Yo me compré hace como 1 año un Roland FP-30.
Me di cuenta que salía mucho más barato comprarlo en Estados Unidos o en europa que en México y justo tuve una oportunidad de oro porque mi padre en un viaje por su trabajo fue a España, entonces le dije que pasara a ver en alguna tienda musical los pianos y efectivamente estaba mucho más barato (recuerdo que en México estaba como en 20'000 y a el costo como 12'000 ya haciendo el cambio de euros a pesos)
Perdón padre por hacerte cargar un piano digital por todo el aeropuerto de regreso.
Tenía miedo de que le fueran a decir algo por exceso de peso o de volumen pero al parecer no le dijeron nada y hasta lo pusieron en algún lugar especial para cosas frágiles.
Gracias a esa oportunidad hoy tengo mi Roland FP-30 que me salió súper barato, cómo a la mitad de precio de lo que decía el vídeo de hecho.
This video is a dream crusher for me knowing that I dont even have the money to even buy one, though its very imformative and I have learned a lot starting from those requirements before buying. I cant help it but to save money until i could buy one. Thank you for the vid!
Can we just appreciate that he took the time to make all the parts for us easy to see?
Your beginner piano is already dream piano for me.
I think MIDI is also very important - especially for additional lessons with an iPad, etc
My Casio CDP-S100 arrived the other day on the mail and I’m so happy with the purchase. Thank you for helping!
Have fun!
I really want to get into piano. I played guitar for around 10 years now and want to check out another instrument. Thanks for the guide and wish me luck learning the piano😁
Good luck :)
hey jeremy can you make a list of the best professional piano that we can use for a lifetime? the list should not be bound to the price
thank you!!!
I agree, just wrote a comment here a few moments ago. I bought a Roland RD2000 after having bought two other keyboards before that because of quite a lot of bad recommendations by sellers and love it. Finally a good one. So tips for the more expensive ones are highly appreciated.
New features and price adjustments will happen over a lifetime.
I'm thinking of buying a digital piano for my children to learn.
I'm glad that I found this helpful and informative video. Thank you, Jerry!
Computers "budget": 350-600
Pianos "Budget": 500-700
With a good sound card PC goes to 450-700
Sir, you know how to make review. It's a great video, quite understandable for beginners. Also, it is quite reliable with your comments.
I was slightly confused when some of the links didn't lead to the same pianos in the review, but I was able to use the information here to inform my decision and am glad that the links still went to comparable pianos. Thank you very much for doing these reviews! Super excited to have a piano at my new house that'll remind me of the one at my Parents whilst actually being 'easily' portable :)
Have fun!
I got a P71today ridiculously cheap because "4 keys broken". If so repair is not major. It wasn't. A few things came loose and within an hour, perfect! WOWIE!! Sounds amazing, or at least it will after following your lessons. Thx Jeremy
For beginners who really want to practice their fingers and basic skills, personally, I think the key actions are the most important thing to consider at first.
Therefore, I strongly don't recommend the digital pianos that don't have the escapement mechanism in their key actions. Because you have to ensure that the action is close enough to an acoustic piano so you won't be confused when you switch between them.
Pianos like Yamaha P-45/105/115/125, which uses GHS action, have the simplest action and sensor inside them. They're playable, but also nothing close to the real piano actions. When you practice some skillful pieces like Chopin's or Debussy's, their poor actions and sensors will hold you back. And please, check for weight balance between the black and white key. Casio PX-S1000 and S3000 does really bad at this (black keys are lighter than the white keys).
I'm using Roland's FP-30, which I think is a great choice for beginners. If too expensive, FP-10 also will do. They're using PHA-4 Standard action that comes with the escapement, which is not perfect (keys feel too heavy when playing some fast pieces), but good enough for the entry-level. On Yamaha's side, you can see how expensive the pianos are that come with GH3X or NWX actions. GH3 action is good, but still feels "wrong" when I'm playing the CLP-635.
I heard that some Nord and Kawai's digital pianos also have decent actions, but I have never tried them before so I'm not making any comments.
- I've also found that it's important to get the best (most suitable) combination of touch sensitivity setting and volume level as different combinations give different "actions" . For example (I have the P125): setting the touch sensitivity to soft gives a brighter sound which makes the action feel "lighter" - I'm getting more sound for my effort; whereas setting it to heavy gives a more mellow sound - I have to play harder to get the same sound. And of course the volume level setting affects that as well. On the soft setting it feels more like I'm playing a Yamaha grand and requires mus less effort, whereas with the heavy setting and the volume just slightly lowered the touch-to-response feels more like a heavier Steinway.
I went with the FP-10 about a year ago after playing the P125 and Privia. Action, weighting, and feeling of the keys was far superior (the others felt like plastic toys compared to the FP-10) and I’ve never once had a second thought about buying it. I wish it had a better Wurlitzer sound built in but that’s its only shortfall in my mind (besides the cheap included sustain pedal which you mentioned).
This is a very helpful video. TBH at first I looked at the length but once you started talking your delivery just made me become patient. Great job!
Thank you for your kind words, buddy.
yo just ran into your channel but the layout of your videos are great. straight forward asl
There are so many it's tough to decide
Dude I just wanna know how many piano keys do you need to play Unravel and Giorno' theme
if you want it to only play one song then you probably shouldnt get it
Should just download a piano app or something even if you buy a piano you won't be able to play it immediately lol
76 but it's just worth getting one with 88 keys, I reccomend the alesis recital
@@tofudelivery394 some people said that the audio is too quiet and that the keys feels like plastic
Dude , if that is the only thing .
Don't buy it , it is directly stupid
All things considered, is the Yamaha P-125 a better choice than the Roland FP-10?
I 'm between the two, and I 'll stick to what I 'll buy for a long time.
Anyone with experience on both of these care to share an opinion?
I'm a classically-trained pianist and find the P125 can be set up to be a great practice instrument. I set the touch to heavy and turn the volume slightly lower than an acoustic piano - that way I can play more firmly and it helps develop my finger strength so that when I go to the acoustic grand it actually feels easier to play! :-) The other voices and features are excellent quality as well (I'm also an organist and can practice that as well) -
Korg XE-20. Simply AMAZING! Not enough videos out there yet to check it out, but... Trust me if you want. It's amazing!
Jeremy, thank you very much for this video. I will be sharing it with my new music students, and it will save a lot of time communicating.
Thanks for sharing Anjie. 👌
my experience being teacher says to me that the students won't see the video and still you will have to communicate them hahahah
My wallet while watching the requirements: oh Neptune...
yolo it man
Facts 😂
I UNDERSTOOD THAT REFERENCE
this is such a great video!! im trying to look for a piano keyboard just to entertain myself and this video is a great help!
thank you for mentioning all the pros and cons and they're all budget friendly
Very very very important: Line out. So you can play at home or at Manchester United Stadium :)
Thank you Jeremy!! I think the FP10 is worth the price and I loved the sound when I tried it last year (can't test it again because covid)--so that's what I'm going to get!!
Good luck finding one available! 😬 After my recommendation, it's pretty much out of stock everywhere for the last few months. Have fun!
@@JeremySee omg you're right I just looked it up haha--I'm in California so I was checking Sweetwater and they have both the Roland FP10 and Yamaha P45 on back order! It's okay no rush for me, but it's good to see that you're guiding new players towards very good instruments. It's very important and will make learning enjoyable so thank you again !!
This video just saved me from buying an "electronic keyboard" full of buttons and "bells and whistles" but met none of your basic checklist requirements. I'm not ausician but my daughter is a serious oboe student and needs to develop some proficiency on piano; she also said it would be helpful in advancing herusic theory studies. Thank you!
I'm happy to be of service, buddy. ♥️
I think it's brilliant that Korg includes a fullsize single pedal in its B2 series, even if the pedal itself doesn't support half pedalling. I use half pedalling with a proper wooden stand and pedal board (this for my Yamaha) but I find half-pedalling with a single (portable) pedal impossible. So is it worth doing that upgrade just for a single pedal to get half pedalling? I don't think so, particularly not when we're only talking about beginner pianos.
@jeremy see I'll put this question to you, but I will also accept answers from anyone else who is familiar with the keyboard or software I had used. I used a Casio lk-280 and a piece of software after I had been playing a short time called "The Logic Behind Music" which taught me a lot of music theory. My weakness to this day is that I am essentially musically illiterate and cannot play anything by sheet music. I got about 2/3 the way through each of the songs on the keyboard (,it had 102 total). I learned them all from rendering tones, notes and the progression of the songs. What do you suggest or recommend? I've considered something like "Synthesia" to learn so I can follow the notes visually while associating the tones with locations on the keyboard. (Which I now know which keys are which note in which octive.)
I started playing piano on my girlfriends Yamaha P45 before buying an incredible Kawaii for almost 3 times the price, I probably spend a third of my practice time on the P45 and i am very happy to play it, the piano sounds are decent but the speakers don't do the bass notes justice and you really can't play gently, the keys are pretty heavy but as a result very forgiving for a beginner.
I recommend CDP S100 or FP-10 for those focusing on advanced jazz technique, especially techniques popularized by pianists like McCoy Tyner, Red Garland, Bud Powell and Bill Evans
Thank you so much for breaking this down and providing soo much information. I was looking at a few of these and I was thinking about the Korg.
did u buy it and are u satisfied?
Incredibly detailed and helpful, even two years later. Thank you!
Thank you for the advice. I am a guitarist and I want to buy a piano for my little daughter and have no idea which one to choose. Thanks to your video now I have a better understanding.
Thank you for your video. I frequently get asked "whats a good starter piano for me/my kid/etc". I now can just send them this link.
Those videos are important. It took me buying 3 keyboards and selling two of them after using them for only 3-6 month until I finally bought the one I really liked, the Roland RD2000. Expensive but not compared to a real piano. I really needed the best possible and fun to play keybed and enough sounds implemented. Also I needed lots of physical controls as I hate to dive into menus to change a layer or split. As a piano player I had no clue about digital keyboards, workstations, arrangers and the differences. Had to learn the hard way. Love your videos although they mostly cover the cheaper range but that's ok.
Dear friend I've made a terrible mistake. I never knew about weighted keys....... I started out piano in grade 4 with a Casio wk 1200. My sir never me any sort of classical music other than scales and chords. I quit playing the piano as I didn't get time cuz of my drum lessons and band practices not to mention a lot to study for the skipped classes. I only practices what I knew like sings such as unravel river flows in you blue bird all of me and believer. I got bored and stored piano. Few days ago I got my determination back from watching your lie in April. It moved me very much. But when I came back I discovered about sighted keys and such. I'll practice like there's no tomorrow or so I thought. I don't know what to. I need lessons but due to corona.... I was planning to learn from flow key as many suggest it and say it's the best among simply piano playground and such. Please tell me what I must do ?? My dream is to master the piano and play my heart out in classical music. I don't care time. I'll practice practice practice until I reach perfection. But now.....
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I love my P125.
I may not play piano very well, but it still sounds very nice, so it's very motivating.
I agree with you. I've bought it 4 mouths ago and I Love my digital piano p125 yamaha
@@canadiansoul9401 likewise !!!! I'm a classically-trained pianist and find the P125 can be set up to be a great practice instrument. I set the touch to heavy and turn the volume slightly lower than an acoustic piano - that way I can play more firmly and it helps develop my finger strength so that when I go to the acoustic grand it actually feels easier to play! :-) The other voices and features are excellent quality as well (I'm also an organist and can practice that as well) -
Such a great video, packed with good information. To the point, and well delivered. I like how you started with the criteria first, so I didn't have to wait until the video was over to determine whether this list was relevant to me. Thank you so much!
Excellent as usual! 👍
In a testament for Jeremy's eloquence, with each piano he presented I was prone to buy it , even with the shortcomings. I am glad Jeremy finished the list at $499! LOL
thank you for your kind words, my friend.
Great insights. Wish the video description had timestamps. Cheers.
Thank you so much for this video! I just got my FP-10 for only 400 Euros and it's amazing. Makes me really excited to learn
Hi , where did you get it at that price?
Jeremy... noted a minor error in your video... from piano player's perspective, @3:13 "the higher notes towards the LEFT side of the piano" -- should be "RIGHT"
Was reading and taking notes from the transcript. Thank you for posting this video as it is informing me of things I need to look for in a keyboard for my son who has just begun piano lessons about 3 months ago! I ordered a Yamaha DGX-670 in March, but it's on back order and they keep projecting deliveries to be a month out, beginning in April, then May, now June 22-- it will probably pushed back another month the way things are going. I understand it all plays into the various supply chain issues (chips, parts, shipping, etc.). So I am looking at other options now, just in case Yamaha can't deliver on time or delays become too prolonged. The last thing I want to end up with is a keyboard that's been sitting in a shipping container for months either offshore or in a shipping yard and collecting mold/rust/mice/rats/exotic pests (you get my point). My only problem right now is that the vendor already sold and delivered to me the stand and pedal unit-- hopefully, all goes well with Yamaha and the vendor from here forward!
Been binging these vids for days now and I still can’t decide which would be best for a late beginner, any suggestions from anyone?
Did you ever decide?
Thank you very much for the reviews. I am looking for a piano for my daughter, who is already at her adulthood. I expect the piano should be of such quality that my daughter would not lose motivation.
Hey there, How much do you recommend a Midi Keyboard. I have a doubt, please give your best suggestion if you can, The Question: is it better to purchase a 61 key midi controller instead of a normal Professional arranger? I would like to use for practice, performing and recording purposes. I actually choose Korg Pa600. But then i thought it's better to purchase a Midi key+DAW studio setup, which is costing me less than Korg pa600 budget. So, what is your suggestions? Thanks !
I have to disagree with some things. I bought a used yamaha ypt 230. It doesn't have 88 keys, and its not touch sensitive.
For new players with little space or money I use it well enough to learn chords. I think its perfect for learning
Hi, I've been thinking to buy the Casio CT-S300, do you recommend it for beginners? I can't afford anything more expensive than that.
I would appreciate the help.
th-cam.com/video/n04xkswmMFo/w-d-xo.html
0:21 what’s wrong with this one? Looks like a good one to buy imo
Thank you for this video, I was able to afford the first piano (Alesis Recital), initially, I was going to buy Casiotone.
I did receive it in 25 th of July, and I still play on it as a beginner almost every day.
Personally I've never used a metronome because I really enjoy the sound of rubato, but I can play in time if necessary.
Me: i think......
My wallet:ohhhhh no no no,
I like how you talk :D Since I'm not a native english speaker, it's very clean to me how you pronounce the words so I don't need to pause the video to repeat what you just meant (y)
Thank you for your kind words..
Hey Jeremy! I’ve been eyeing a digital piano that seems to meet all the marks according to the few existing reviews I’ve seen (Except the headphones, however that doesn’t concern me as much). I’m hesitant because this piano is brandless or at least by a small brand. Should I be concerned about the branding despite it meeting 7/8 of your requirements? Thanks and great job on the video!
Was it the one on Amazon? With the seat and full table
I also wanna know which one was it
I'm considering buying a digital piano for beginners. You explain so well, unbiased opinions. It's making me easier to consider my best choice.
Out of all your considerations, so far the Roland fits well for my preference. Thank you for your advice.
Nice job, Jeremy, as always. Thanks.
Subscribed to you Teacher Jeremy! I am going to start my journey during this pandemic. I have all the time! I have candle-like fingers and didn’t do well with guitars. I am trying my luck in a piano (which is my first option ever since I was a kid). It seems so far when I was a child but now that I’m an adult and in my 20s, I am determined to start working in making my dreams in music come true!
Have fun making music!
January - Jeremy recommends Roland FP-10. May - Roland FP-10 is back-ordered everywhere. Sigh.
It is extremely popular and back ordered in pretty much the whole world.
Yeah I looked for it too tried to buy it from b&h cause they said it would be in stock mid June when it was late May. Waited till mid June then it switched to mid July 😢. Just gave up and went for a Korg b2sp
@@andrewwexler4779 I've been considering the Korg b2sp. My main concerns are (1) acosutic piano sound; (2) touch/feel/action. From what I've seen---heard---on YT, the 3 grand piano sounds are quite good, better than those on competitors that cost several hundred dollars more. Also, I want a furniture style stand. And, the Korg comes with that for $600 (July 2020) which beats Yamaha, Kawai, Casio, Roland by $200-$350. Question: how do you like the sound of the Korg?? Thanx.
@@kantib.anondewar8769 I got the Korg B2 because the Roland is still on back order. Korg cost me £319 whereas the Roland is £449. I don't think the Roland justifies that price difference.
@@eyesofvenusAre u still happt with the B2?
Great video! You were really thorough with all your pros and cons, and you helped me slim down a list of possible keyboards I'd like to get. Thanks!
Finally im going to buy roland fp30 . Thank you bro for enlightening us.
I'm thinking of getting a digital piano to try learning a little contemporary music, nothing fancy classical or such, and I'm looking at something relatively cheap. The cheapest I can find with weighted keys is about 300 USD (in Sweden, so somewhat higher prices) and that would be semi-weighted with 88 keys. I started looking at used ones though, as you can get great deals if you have a little patience and look around a bit and I managed to find a Yamaha P45 for about 300 USD (which includes shipping which is about 118 USD in itself!), but the real kicker is it also includes the optional stand in that price :) Seeing as the lowest price for the P45 without the stand (and not including shipping) I can find in Sweden seems to be 486 USD this seems like a pretty solid deal. It's on your list and despite a few drawbacks it's a pretty good one (I have a feeling 64 polyphony will never be a limit for me :) ) I'd look for a used Korg but if the aps are all for iOS anyway, well :) If I can learn Black Holes (Don't Hold On), The End (Stars Always Seem to Fade) and Escape the Mind (all by The Warning), and maybe Scarlet from Ayashi no Ceres on it I'm going to be fine :p
Great choice!
The pink piano in the beginning xD lmao
I stopped play piano last year after my teacher died, 1 or 2 month ago, i ordered p520, the shop told me that it was hard to find it because of covid, i thought i would have received it in the middle of july, i want to work hard all summer. Unfortunately, i think i ll have it for September 😭 im so pissed off because i m going to college and i ll not have so much time.. 😢
Love your videos man,
I'm in the market for getting a piano and was originally going for the Casio CDP-S350, where would it fall into this list and which is better in comparison with the Roland FP-10?
I had a FP-10 and I actually returned it to the shop :/
@@3xperiment8 how come?
@@3xperiment8 why?
@@3xperiment8 can't just say that and dip
@@JuanPablo-gr5pp For me personally, the FP-10 had noisy keys straight out of the box. 3 days later they became super loud, and the flat E4 got completely stuck. Needless to say, I had to return it.
Jeremy - writing to you from Canada. After having purchased a Roland FP-10 recently, I was happy you find your independent review. I’m certain I’ll not outgrow this instrument for some time, and I expect to upgrade to another Roland in a few years. Continued success to you.
Thank you for your kind words, Wayne. Have fun!♥️
Best 76 key keyboard?
thanks for this video, I used to have a keyboard as a child and loved it until my mom threw it away because it annoyed her. I've always wanted to play piano and I plan on asking for one this christmas or birthday!
How does the CDP-S100 compare to these?
Thank You! Really helpful to tell us what is good and bad about each one.
Sir, is Kawai es 110 a good digital piano to start with?
I am an adult 22 beginner is the FP-10 Really the best one it costs $619 now and I’m about performance and sound quality is what I want in my first piano and of course all the other requirements you mentioned
Where did you buy your fp10 piano?
I only have $150 to my name right now in the form of visa gift cards. The inability to buy a piano and learn is tearing at me
Casio CT S300 if you're ok with a 61 key piano
Try used. If you’re in US, you can get acoustic piano for free in local used market, though you spend all your money in moving and tuning. No excuse.
@@jisyang8781 what about for people who aren't living in us :(
@@marshandaniza pretty sure you can find second hand stuff everywhere. Try ebay.
Correct me if im wrong but the Yamaha P71 isnt on sale anymore. You would just have to purchase the P45 instead
Nice video! Do you think the Thomann Sp 5600 can be also as good as the ones you recommened? Because I was thinking about buying it due to the price and the nice specifications, but I don't know if it achieves all 8 requirements you listed.
Ty!
I think a really underrated one is the William's Legato lll. It works so well for beginners, highly recommended
Except it is poorly distributed and available in most markets. 😅
Seems the Roland FP10 has been discontinued?
Where did you get this news from?
@@JuanPablo-gr5pp anonymous source from the FBI and CIA
Wowww thank you for going over pros and cons and a very detail breakdown of features and cost :D
I'm happy to help.
As always: Casio got most features. But the sounds .... and bad to sell used. No value.
I‘m stuck with a very pricey MZ-X500. Can‘t sell it even under 50% of the new price.
I have no experience of the pianos mentioned in the video. But I have a Kawai ES110 since 7 months and I love it!
Thank you Jeremy for this great review! What affordable digital piano would you recommend that DOES include 1/4" stereo outputs? I can play okay currently and am confident that I will progress quickly, and want something I will not outgrow quickly and can use onstage for gigs. Best regards, Seán
Just recently caught your channel while looking at digital pianos. You're incredibly talented, fun to watch, and extremely knowledgeable! I'm 65 years young. Been playing guitar for about 40 years. I've bulit my own recording set up in my home. Music is a serious hobby of mine, but still a hobby. Thinking about adding a keyboard/digital piano to my set up because I love the instrument and its many sounds. I'm in between novice and intermediate as far as my skills on the piano are concerned. You have been a wealth of information. For my needs, there's a lot of great choices in the $700.00 and under range. Your videos have offered some great choices as well. I'm looking closely at the Studiologic Numa Compact 2 or the 2X. I realy like the fact that you don't have to menu dive to get to everything this product has. The sounds are just what i'm looking for and the prices for each are quite reasonable for what you get. Any thoughts? I would value your opinion! Thanks!!
Thank you for your kind words, Don. I would love to get my hands on a Numa Compact 2X, but unfortunately, StudioLogic isn't well distributed outside of the USA.
@@JeremySee Wow... Thanks for the quick reply. I plan to purchase before Christmas. I'll keep you posted. Untill then, I'll keep watching your great videos!
Thanks again for your vidios and opinions! I just ordered the StudioLogic Numa Compact 2X. It will arrive this Friday and I will spend the weekend getting acquainted with it!
Hey can you do a video on alesis recital pro?
My Alesis Recital's keys are weighted to 90 grams, I don't think they are semi-weighted. They are quite hard to play, and when playing I occasionally skip notes because I don't press the keys hard enough.
I will smash the like button with consent.
Hi, This is SK.
I like the way u explained it. It is so easy to understand for me as a "real real" beginner. One thing I don't understand is the size of the key. You mentioned that buy with the full size key. How do I differentiate the full size key & any other size key. How many variation are their in the key size? How do I make decision that I am buying the right piano? please let me know. Thanks
Mini keys th-cam.com/video/ClAdUJdak6Q/w-d-xo.html
i play the guitar and i dont even know why am i here
Thanks for the review. It was very helpful. Appreciate your efforts in posting this video
Thoughts on the Alesis Recital Pro?? Really eyeing this on Amazon. Full weighted keys, 12 voices, all for $ 379 US dollars
This one? amzn.to/3gds1Al
Great for beginners. 👍
Yes sir! Thank you! This is what I am going to roll with then
Jeremy, I have a Clavinova CVP-405 and know several people that after hearing my 405 want to learn to play piano. I have spoiled them with my 405, and want to know what you recommend. I bought a DGX-660 to replace my Grand-Kids Yamaha YDP-233 (keys kept breaking) 3 years ago, but after seeing so many "Beginner Pianos" on TH-cam, I don't know where to begin given I would want a weighted action for any piano I would recommend.
I'm a classically-trained pianist and have the P125 - it's a great practice instrument. The other voices and features of the P125 are excellent quality as well (I'm also an organist and can practice that as well) -
My local music store knew nothing about pianos. How sad is that.
Music stores can't afford to hire knowledgeable staff. Unfortunately
Mine doesn't have weighted keys, I have a 76 key Yamaha portable Grand.
Don't miss the half a dozen keys from the lowest and uppermost registry, but I do often ponder about weighted keys.
Oh well..
Still, I enjoy rocking Wait for Sleep and the key solos from Learning to Live and of course the intro to The Final Countdown :)
Cheers
Thanks a lot for the information, I just picked up the Roland FP-10 because of your review.