To you reading this, Jesus can help with whatever problems, hardships, and issues you have. Believe in him and what he has done on the cross for your salvation he came to save us from hell and eternal suffering. You can not save yourself he came to save us. Turn from your sins, repent which is changing your life to follow the way of God and not your way, your way will lead you into a pit of despair I know it, my way lead me in a pit straight to hell, but Jesus rescued me and he can rescue you. He can grant a peace and joy unfelt, and be your closest friend always there, This is the gospel Jesus Christ, son of God, died for our sins, was buried, and rose again on the third day. After he went to his tweleve disciples and many others before ascending into heaven eternally triumphant over all his enemies and making it so that there is now no condemnation for sin to all those who believe in him, but only everlasting joy. John 3:16
I love how Tim runs to hug Bruce as soon as he recognizes him and how Bruce tells Jason “you don’t have to prove yourself to anybody” hes real proud of his sons
Talia: "Many don't know this, but use of a Lazarus Pit can not only rejuvenate and empower the user's physical form, but unravel the user's mind..." Jason Todd: *rolls eyes as lecture continues*
Everyone else: I gotta take Bruce down non-lethaly Jason/Red hood: *loads pistols with malicious intent* we're near the Lazarus pits he can handle getting shot.
@@Timothy1395yup. And you know what's weird? Batman would have still stuck to his no killing rule if he also used guns that have nonlethal bullets in them, like red hood does. After all, you gotta admit using bat gadgets and sudden devices would probably get old at some point, right? Bad guys would know what he's using or what he's gonna do, so... If he uses pistols with non-lethal ammo, he's able to fight back - so he doesn't need to use the usual other stuff. He can make a change,do something different. Something they wont expect.
I really wish more Batman media would let Bruce treat his family like actual family like this, he gets closest to that with Tim because they act like father and it's so heart warming.
Bro, this really goes to show just how twisted She is, she bring him back, break his mind, and then forces him to try and kill his robins and batgirl, no wonder Batman keeps Damian away from her.
I love how Jason's version is the only one where Bruce trusts his protege to get Talia later. It shows that he trusts Jason's exp from the lazarus pit and if Red Hood is saying retreat to fight another day its probably good advice to let him handle it. Love that attention to detail.
I love Jason's one. Jason finally gets the acceptance from Bruce that he's been looking for even if he never admits it. Bruce telling Jason everything he needed to hear so he can finally move on. Red Hood's ending is my fav one. He's the new Knight that Gothamn needs ( I don't mind him killing some criminals...come on yall know how fked up some of them are )
@@crimcrusader8459 I guess they made all the dialogue pretty much the same for the same amount of game time for each character because they got too lazy. I mean… *glances over at KTJL*
Bro imagine becoming batgirl, losing your ability to walk, getting it back and become batgirl again then getting punched by Bruce in the exact spot you were shot
The inherent flaw of this game becomes apparent to me when I realize how criminal it is that there isn't a scene of all four encountering Bruce together as a family.
No because it's so weird. I haven't played and don't know the story but why in the world did they only send 1 person to confront Talia/go to the lazarus pits?
Dick's joyful little "Finally!". Like he never doubted he'd get through eventually. And the way Bruce so quickly (for him) accepts Nightwing's assistance. Dick is his son...but also his partner, and it shows.
Also, he is the only one who was chosen by Brice Wayne. Jason was chosen by Batman, Tim chose Batman, and Bruce doesn't really had any choice regarding Damian. ;P
The dialogue between Talia and Jason does not reflect that much. I had thought that with Jason Todd's own history with Talia, I would have expected Talia to have a more unique dialogue specifically for Jason Todd.
If they had the chance other endings for different characters. Bruce would’ve only survived Dick’s ending. Let’s be honest, mans ran hands with Superman and took some punches. He can live a slash 😂
While not ideal in Talia's mind, it's evident she thought: keep Dick around to keep Bruce pacified. Talia figured (and rightfully so) that Nightwing was the "most favored" of Batman, therefore to kill him would only destroy her chances of getting with Bruce. Injuring Nightwing, in her mind, would give her some leverage over both of them. As for Jason, Tim and Babs ... irrelevant to her.
Yeah talk about taking no for an anwser, she literally revived him and used some of her lazarus pit knowledge to make him be a killer, for someone who calls bruce a lover, she really just wanted to force him to see and do things her way@@gameraider100
Dick and Jason got the best endings, but Tim got the hug so... And nightwings ending is the only one where batman survives for sure with few lasting injuries
They all act so differently towards Bruce it's actually well done Dick treats Bruce like he is his older brother, even joking with each other, Dick is also quicker Tim acts like Bruce is his father and he is a scared son trying to help as best as he can, Tim is also Smarter Jason acts like Bruce is his life long friend trying to help him through some serious shit, Jason is also stronger Barbra entire scene was just weird, it was the only one where Bruce seemed like he just killed himself rather then save them lol
Yeah, Batgirl's felt the least emotional of the three. Talia gets the jump on all of them, which Bruce naturally throws himself in front of the danger. Except for Batgirl, they're ready to square off and Bruce just puts himself in the way just to be stabbed and rendered unable to help.
I realized that Jason, Tim, and Barbara's scenes showed Bruce getting stabbed in the back, but Richard's scene showed Bruce getting slashed by Talia's sword instead.
I think the reason why Bruce held Dick back is because he's the fastest among the four of them and would intercept Talia if Batman didn't react fast enough. Nightwing would also put his body between Bruce and Talia's sword but that's just my idea.
Its ironic. Jason died only to be reborn from the pits, and Bruce tried to save Jason. Now with Jason doing the same. Felt right to have jason in this mission
When said Bruce “I told you and your father to stay away from my family” this shows how much he cares for him and how he is willing to take his own life if it means to protect them.
Jason’s was definitely the best and most logical. He too was brought back with a Lazarus pit and was brought back from its effect, so he knows what Bruce is going through and how to help him. He is also easily the most damaged of the four so him finally hearing what he needed to from Bruce set him free in a way.
He says something to each of his sons to reassure them of his belief in them, telling them Tim he’s ready to be a hero, telling Jason he knows he will do good, and this is his way of telling Dick that he absolutely trusts him to take care of everything and everyone in his stead and always has.
Honestly, I think Nightwing was the best. The first protege, coming back to save his mentor/surrogate father. I mean, he even talks about how Bruce was all he had after his parents died. Then, at the end, with the "Bruce... I got this." It's just a great moment of him coming out of Batman's shadow which was Nightwing's whole deal originally.
@@blackdemonknight Oh, sure, but man, it is *lacking* in soul. I feel like that could've been written so much better - could've actually shown some more emotion to Jason since, y'know, his whole story is about trying to find more to his identity beyond his own anger. Feel like they did him and Batgirl dirty.
31:50 I LOVE that the writers of this game had Bruce acknowledge and call the BatFam HIS family. It’s such a breath of fresh air but it’s also sad that very few writers of Bruce/Batman don’t do it more often. Like, I’ve seen DC comic writers write Bruce/Batman to only see the BatFam as his soldiers and army and blatantly disregard them as his family For the love of god DC, write Bruce properly and have him show more love towards his found family, cut all the edgy and abusive bullshit drama that TOO many comic writers include when writing about the BatFamily
@@mrksimka1159 frank Miller was good because it was something that was different at the time but people think that's all he is... which is not the case batman is still Human and has those emotions even if he's a bit jaded and secluded but the love he has for the bat family is real and he'd take damage for them any day.... just hate how they keep trying to make batman more and more gritty like don't get me wrong I love when he wails on criminals and is a badass but I loved when he could just sit down next to a girl that is about to die of a brain related issue and just sit on. Swing and hold her hand till she passes.... like bro that shot from justice league still makes me tear up.. I can't even begin to imagine how batman felt holding her corpse...just God man 😩... oh and don't get me started on the animated series such good story telling and world... I'm going to rewatch that now
@@shadowx8145 it shouldn’t be and it isn’t always In fact, the edgy and abusive shit should at the very least be rare because it degrades Bruce/Batman’s character
I like that Bruce is more protective over Barbara for Jim’s sake. He doesn’t doubt her skills against Talia, but he doesn’t want her to risk her life for him.
I love how personalized they made each of these scenes. Personally, I think Jason's was the best with Tim in close second. Jason's line of "you held me together before, so I'm doing it for you now" is just so heartmelting. He knows how it feels to go through the Pit, so him talking Bruce through it is amazing. I also like Tim's because he's just so genuinely happy to see Bruce and its adorable. Cinamon roll needs a hug.
14:37 Tim rushing to hug Bruce and being so small next to him after barely being able to fight him off and actually letting go of him while trying to appeal to him during the heat of the fight reminds you that he is actually still a child. You get glimpses of it when there are baby brother moments with his adult siblings, but it is really apparent here. 15:42 You see just how small and young Tim is here too. He can’t even make a dent trying to push Bruce back.
Notes on Jason's - Talia seemed much more aggressive when she heard about Jason being revived. As if she only wanted Bruce to be the only one??? Either way she seemed incredibly more hostile than with the others-
I feel neutral on the game, but I did enjoy the interaction and bond Bruce had with the Bat family. Jason's scenes felt more personal considering he too was revived in the Lazarus Pit. I appreciate each of their talk with Bruce in the final moments. Diabolical that Talia took advantage of Bruce after reviving him.
Nightwing was the best hands down imo, just watching a father & son (I know Jason is also his son as well), but Dick being the big brother with the added responsibility of leading the group. I mean look at 7:31 it just says it all there between the two🥺
I understand he's been revived and not at full strength but kinda thought they would add more QTE counters from bruce when the player attacks and whenever he stays within a certain range of the pit, he heals and is numb to damage. Leading to the Appeals being how to beat him instead of actually beating on him and if you do get him to zero, it triggers a bad ending "at what cost?" Or "For the mission" achievement (wishful thinking, not real)
Jason’s attitude during this let alone the whole game is just perfect “you just had to try dying for yourself” and during talia’s monologue you could feel him rolling his eyes
I love how each interaction is different and ties to the character’s journey. Nightwing shows Bruce that he’s ready to step up and take on the responsibility as leader of the BatFamily. Bruce tells Tim that he no longer needs Batman to protect Gotham. Bruce shows Jason that he has complete faith in him. Barbara shows Bruce that she’s just like her father and will never give up.
I love how Tim and Dick are the only ones who did some decent damage to Talia even though Jason should’ve had an advantage given the fact that he’s the same age as Dick and his abilities have been boosted by the Lazarus pit making him stronger and faster than an average human being
Not same age as Dick he’s slightly younger but yeah he’s second in overall skill and experience right after him it makes no sense for Tim to preform better.
I mean they all did about the same amount of damage and played to their fighting style. Dick swarmed her with a flurry of hits and caught her off guard with a baton kick. Tim used his staff to keep distance and got a good kick to keep distance then idk if he actually hit her with his staff when they separated. Jason rushed her trying to strong precise hits while also dodging and willing to take a hit himself.
@@tylercollins2868 Tim and Dick are the only two that got more than one hit off on her and barely took any hits themselves which doesn’t make much sense since I’m pretty sure if I remember correctly Tim is the least skilled out of all the robins and he shouldn’t be able to even hold his own against someone like Talia until much later in his life when he’s an adult like Dick and Jason
@@TonyJaaFan1587 Dick had one clean hit. Tim had two, and I gave him the poke at the end. Jason had three clean hits. Tim is not a skilled fighter, which is clear from the fact that he keeps dodging and running away from Talia, countering when he could. As I've already said, Dick is swarming her, so she doesn't have a chance to respond, and he's avoiding her with his greater agility. Jason, who is built like a tank, won't be able to move around as well in close quarters, especially when fighting experienced fighters. He avoids attacks that could potentially harm him like the sword, but he takes the ones he could eat cause someone Talia's frame is not doing a lot of damage to someone like Jason bare handed.
@@tylercollins2868 Jason literally says "this is gonna hurt you a lot more that it will me" so yes I think his style of fighting generally involves eating a couple hits to hurt the opponent a lot more. It makes sense given his bulky build and heightened strength.
Agreed, imo this game really compliments and works for Jason’s character the most. Jason has the most connection to the League, Lazarus Pits, and Bruce’s Life and Death arc as well Maybe if there was more Court of Owls, maybe with William Cobb then Dick would’ve had something more as well. Lincoln March could’ve been a cool choice as well
@@gabebartlett9680 Even the changes they added for him fit so well to the story. He promised for Bruce's sake to go non-lethal and the wavelength between the group of him and the others were a bit shaky because of his purge villains past.
@@brightbeyonddarkness The only change that is glaringly absent is Jason's dialogue with Talia. Given his history with Talia and the League of Shadows, I would have expected unique dialogue between him and Talia as well as their own choice words in said dialogue.
I absolutely love the glowing green eyes, if Damian is ever in this game or if they make a second one and he’s in it-I hope to everything they give him those glowing green eyes
5:52 The relief in Bruce’s voice that his beloved eldest son who has always had his back and his trust is alive in front of him, and the relief in Dick’s voice that his dad is truly alive and he won’t actually have to hurt him is heartbreaking :’( It has been proven several times that Dick is actually stronger than Bruce with higher combat skills and that he is always holding back because his goal is to stop people not hurt them. As soon as Bruce realizes that Dick is there he immediately leans on him for help, as he always has, and also does everything he can to protect him. 6:53 Bruce immediately calming down, listening to him, and showing his absolute trust in and love for Dick is wonderfully done and so accurate!
I like all of them for different reasons. Dick's the first, the original surrogate son, and there's feeling in that. Tim truly loves Bruce like a father (and vice versa) and the struggle to not break down is noticeable. Jason has personal experience with Lazarus Pits and it shows in the dialogue, as well as his relationship with Bruce and the arc completion moment. Barbara's feels original, a bit more fleshed out even without the Lazarus Pit connection (if there's one, please correct me), and her love for him also shows strongly. My only question is why a slash in Nightwing's but a stab in the rest?
Nightwings would be the canon ending as the stab endings are much more likely to be fatal granted Jason would most likely just throw Bruce back in the pit
These are so good, but it's incredibly hard to take it seriously with Tim's cape intersecting his leg and Bruce's hover hand over Jason's shoulder. Brilliant stuff.
Honestly I think they should’ve handled it differently. I know it was a story about the bat family. But if they let you play as Bruce or Batman for the final boss it would’ve been so good.
All of these scenes are pretty good for the most part, I just wish they could’ve changed Talia’s dialogue just a little bit so it made more sense. As it stands, some of her dialogue doesn’t match up very well with what each character is saying.
14:38 father and son, cuties 23:25 the way jason tries to help bruce staying calm because he knows how the lazarus pit works and what it makes to a person💔💔💔
Talia: did you know the lazarus pit isn't just for healing? it can weaken the mind, make it more malleable Jason: ...who do you think you're talking to rn
This game was successful enough to warrant a sequel, whether people like it or not. I’d really like to see them do a Battle for the Cowl storyline where the batfamily has conflict about who gets to wear the cowl next, then they can introduce Damian as the next phase to Talia’s plan. Eventually he can join the family and be playable as the new Robin.
I haven't actually read the comics, but almost all of the knights have some form of arc. Dick is the new Batman in the BftC story, and probably has the most time spent with Bruce. Jason (my favorite "hero") deals with his death and Lazarus effects. He finally finds acceptance from his mentor. Barbara is also compelling, she already looks like Batman, plus Batwoman in red. She deals with the GCPD after Jim died and in my playthrough, her being the new knight is kinda fitting. Tim is the youngest, but he learns how to handle things Batman would in his early years. His arc is a strong coming-of-age story
Id actually hate for them to bicker over who gets to wear the cowl if the story is a sequel to this. You would have to back track their character arcs about being a team just to have them fight of who is batman when the game was about them becoming their own knights. A really bad direction to take a sequel there.
@@aerostrafe1075 It’s not entirely backtracking if crime in the city is getting worse due to Batman’s absence, the Court is more and more active as the ranks are rebuilt, while the League is plotting their next move and potentially introducing Damian like said previously, maybe Bane and his squad begin to infiltrate Gotham know that Batman’s gone. Then the Knights contemplate on leaving the ideal of Batman dead or voting on one of them becoming the next Bat. It’s for the purpose of storytelling and more customization for the Knights, giving you more choice within the game. They each go through their arc in Gotham Knights where they recognize their worth as a protector of Gotham, could easily lead into them questioning who’s more worthy to be the Bat. The comic storyline for Battle for the Cowl wasn’t exactly a concrete idea on paper either, but they made it work. Ended up with Dick taking on the role of Batman while Damian was Robin. Better options for a sequel rather than just lazily bringing back Bruce.
@@Drax1109 If all that is happening then even stranger for them to battle one another over who should be batman. The context also wouldn't work as well since batman has been gone awhile.
@@aerostrafe1075 Would be way better if they advance on their appearances in the inspiration of batman, instead of bickering over the cowl, still working as a 4 people squad in Gotham just as Bruce would've wanted.
@@kdkdk_01 in the last Robin run Damian is saved by a Ras without league who seems to been doing nothing after Talia took over it, anyway in the following interaction with his grandson is shown that he has been reflecting over his approach to save the world and Bruce approach to save his own city and concluded he was to harsh with humanity cause even with centuries he didn't consider once other ways more than genocide, later he surrender to authorities and convince Talia as well to do it for Damian. That's the summary (more likely)
How much more lore is referenced and how there's actually more dialogue in Batgirl's sequence makes it loud and clear who is the canonical main character of this game.
I would have loved for the line of Tim's that breaks througb to Bruce to have been "Bruce? Are you in there? Dad!" If the line that broke through to Bruce was Tim calling him "dad" for the first time. I would have started crying
I loved the fact that Tim rams and hugs Bruce like really Tim is a good son to him and the closest thing to Bruce. But also thought it was Dick who was closer but still makes sense for Tim
2:45 The voice actor here really got the tone right, there is so much emotion put in that one word, you can hear his voice (and heart) breaking over "Bruce?"
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@@MrReaperofDead why click on it then
@@rushpatriot2866 Bro why? You saw but still clicked on it
Eh
@@WeAreOneIAmTheya😊
To you reading this, Jesus can help with whatever problems, hardships, and issues you have. Believe in him and what he has done on the cross for your salvation he came to save us from hell and eternal suffering. You can not save yourself he came to save us. Turn from your sins, repent which is changing your life to follow the way of God and not your way, your way will lead you into a pit of despair I know it, my way lead me in a pit straight to hell, but Jesus rescued me and he can rescue you. He can grant a peace and joy unfelt, and be your closest friend always there, This is the gospel
Jesus Christ, son of God, died for our sins, was buried, and rose again on the third day. After he went to his tweleve disciples and many others before ascending into heaven eternally triumphant over all his enemies and making it so that there is now no condemnation for sin to all those who believe in him, but only everlasting joy. John 3:16
Batman with the others: BUT YOU DIED
Batman with Jason: but you died…AGAIN
Jason: I took some "kill me now, and I come back stronger" pills Bruce. You should try it sometimes.
Jason: My death was. Greatly exagreated
Agree like damn
@@Exozealotsclearly a tf2 soldier reference
"C'mon, Bruce. Death for me is like a bad hangover by now."
I love how Tim runs to hug Bruce as soon as he recognizes him and how Bruce tells Jason “you don’t have to prove yourself to anybody” hes real proud of his sons
Jason shoots him multiple times as his move XD
@@skyguyyeeted5823 That’s what you have to do in the game bozo
While Bruce's actual son damian, he doesn't give a duck about'em lol
@@JeungYoo
Yeah but… it’s Damien🤷♂️😂
He’s a son a lot of people would find hard to handle
@@averongodoffire8098 yea damian starts to become a better person over time but he's still really stubborn and reckless from time to time
Talia: "Many don't know this, but use of a Lazarus Pit can not only rejuvenate and empower the user's physical form, but unravel the user's mind..."
Jason Todd: *rolls eyes as lecture continues*
Her speech makes so much less sense in context with Jason's dialog
Jason: Blah blah blah blah, I'm tempted to kill you and then throw you into the green goo just for the villainous exposition.
The fact that Jason never went "You know you used this one me before right? Also you're a lot more manipulative now than then."
"Oh yeah... sorry."
@@vullord666 alot more manipulative?
She pulled him out and raped him because mommy issues she gave him
Womansplaining ☕️
"If you die again, Alfred's gonna kill me"
I don't know why, but I found that line funny
It was supposed to be I giggled I can’t lie the games not bad
@@Blvdd. I've just bought it tonight. I'm hoping I'll like it. The games been given a low rating but I aint believing it til I play it
Bruce chuckled too. 🤭
I mean Alfred at one point beat superman so....
I chuckled too. It's honestly a mood despite the grave situation lol
Everyone else: I gotta take Bruce down non-lethaly
Jason/Red hood: *loads pistols with malicious intent* we're near the Lazarus pits he can handle getting shot.
Jason: f*** it if he does I can revive him again now. Why won't you die
No mercy 😂
@@viderevero1338 and the worst part is that's 100% in-character for Jason Todd 😂
Jason uses non lethal rounds in this game though cause he decided to respect Batman’s “no killing” rule after his death.
@@Timothy1395yup. And you know what's weird? Batman would have still stuck to his no killing rule if he also used guns that have nonlethal bullets in them, like red hood does. After all, you gotta admit using bat gadgets and sudden devices would probably get old at some point, right? Bad guys would know what he's using or what he's gonna do, so... If he uses pistols with non-lethal ammo, he's able to fight back - so he doesn't need to use the usual other stuff. He can make a change,do something different. Something they wont expect.
Just once I would like Bruce to call out "CLARK!" and boom, Superman is there in two heartbeats.
I think there was a scene like that in the Lego game but my memory might serve me wrong
Lego Batman 2! Loved that game as a smol lad.
"Bruce, it's been 5 years. You still owe me 16$."
@@trissi4468 “flip off”
All I ask is one night where I can have the fun like him, but does he ever let me? No.
“Appeal to Bruce”
*tries to kick him in the head twice*
"Instructions unclear, tried to give him a concussion or two"
@Acevant Really. "So you're against killing, but you're fine with traumatic brain injuries?"
Honestly that hold the button mechanic really takes away the seriousness
@@StealthTheFoxz Secure the loading docks.
I really wish more Batman media would let Bruce treat his family like actual family like this, he gets closest to that with Tim because they act like father and it's so heart warming.
31:50
I know. It would be so nice 🥲
Because Bruce is inherently a broken individual taking advantage of these children by indoctrinating them into his insane, childish revenge quest.
Webtoon Batman: Wayne Family Adventures is amazing!
@@SonicMegaKingIkr? It's so awful that he turned them into crime fighters instead of letting them die in some dark alleyway in downtown Gotham.
Bro, this really goes to show just how twisted She is, she bring him back, break his mind, and then forces him to try and kill his robins and batgirl, no wonder Batman keeps Damian away from her.
You’re absolutely right this is why batman is perfect for catwoman
@@atakahraman8131 I do agree but writers keep messing up Talia’s character. But at least she stuck with the same morals she had in Arkham City.
@@Gemini053 Yea man
This is why I prefer his relationship with Catwoman
I despise Talia with a burning passion.
Red Hood saying"You had to just try out dying for yourself.." is just too perfect
I love how Jason's version is the only one where Bruce trusts his protege to get Talia later. It shows that he trusts Jason's exp from the lazarus pit and if Red Hood is saying retreat to fight another day its probably good advice to let him handle it. Love that attention to detail.
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I love Jason's one.
Jason finally gets the acceptance from Bruce that he's been looking for even if he never admits it. Bruce telling Jason everything he needed to hear so he can finally move on.
Red Hood's ending is my fav one.
He's the new Knight that Gothamn needs ( I don't mind him killing some criminals...come on yall know how fked up some of them are )
hell YEs!
Well he doesn't kill anymore
@@jordancrooks6752 Which is good. He wants to change, and that's fine. He'll only kill if it's necessary.
Hey yo everyone look at this scammer
@@gamingnova1453 what 😭
Tim & Bruce’s reunion was the most heart felt , you can see Tim really loves Bruce as a father.
If you look at it, Tim, out of all the Robins is the most like Bruce.
@@omarcogle1965
Yeah tim is Bruce’s closest son out of all the bat family in my opinion ✅.
@@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134 Plus his intelligence is about equal to Bruce.
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Dick grayson: baby im not even here, im just an illusion.
@@lanzsaceda778
Joker 😆
Talia: "A Lazarus Pit can-"
Jason: "Yeah yeah revive the dead, do all kinds of mystical shit. Let's just get this over with lady."
One would think that Talia would have unique dialogue specifically for Jason Todd.
@@crimcrusader8459 I guess they made all the dialogue pretty much the same for the same amount of game time for each character because they got too lazy. I mean… *glances over at KTJL*
@@redthewifeyhunter4034 Still, I feel that the devs dropped the ball on this one as both Talia and Jason had history with each other.
Considering Talia groomed Jason I kinda expected him to be madder
@@SolangeAbri she did WHAT?!
Bro imagine becoming batgirl, losing your ability to walk, getting it back and become batgirl again then getting punched by Bruce in the exact spot you were shot
OW
"OW! Okay, now you're doing it on purpose..."
its the reverse, first batgirl and second losing ability to walk
Lmao he said it right duh fuck @MissDeathMoon
@MissDeathMoon read it again
Batman with the other's:LET ME FIGHT HER!!!
Batman with Jason:you do it
I think Batman saw Jason as an equal to him there.
Gotta let your middle child make a few mistakes
He probably knew Jason had unfinished business with her.
@@ghost085 and it's also fitting since Jason has a story with the League of Shadows since they helped Jason on his training to become Red Hood
🤣💀☕ true asf tho tbh bruh
The inherent flaw of this game becomes apparent to me when I realize how criminal it is that there isn't a scene of all four encountering Bruce together as a family.
Yeah big miss on that for sure
No because it's so weird. I haven't played and don't know the story but why in the world did they only send 1 person to confront Talia/go to the lazarus pits?
Dick's joyful little "Finally!". Like he never doubted he'd get through eventually. And the way Bruce so quickly (for him) accepts Nightwing's assistance. Dick is his son...but also his partner, and it shows.
Also, he is the only one who was chosen by Brice Wayne. Jason was chosen by Batman, Tim chose Batman, and Bruce doesn't really had any choice regarding Damian. ;P
He was the first Robin after all, the first sidekick who he relied on and the other hero he trusted most.
Red hood ending>>> the connection to the Lazarus pits just makes it a lot more personal than the others imo
Yeah a lot of this story, specifically the third act, kind of feels like it was written for him
I'd say it's mostly written for dick and Jason
It’s also mostly written for batgirl too
@Gamer-Wolf.Jason had the funnier ending, I mean- he did crack one or two jokes
The dialogue between Talia and Jason does not reflect that much.
I had thought that with Jason Todd's own history with Talia, I would have expected Talia to have a more unique dialogue specifically for Jason Todd.
Nightwing is the only path where Batman only gets a bit slashed but with everyone else he gets stabbed
If they had the chance other endings for different characters. Bruce would’ve only survived Dick’s ending. Let’s be honest, mans ran hands with Superman and took some punches. He can live a slash 😂
@@KaiBuscusHD he did that with armor and bs prep time
I didnt notice that im gonna have to replay it again
While not ideal in Talia's mind, it's evident she thought: keep Dick around to keep Bruce pacified.
Talia figured (and rightfully so) that Nightwing was the "most favored" of Batman, therefore to kill him would only destroy her chances of getting with Bruce. Injuring Nightwing, in her mind, would give her some leverage over both of them. As for Jason, Tim and Babs ... irrelevant to her.
Yeah talk about taking no for an anwser, she literally revived him and used some of her lazarus pit knowledge to make him be a killer, for someone who calls bruce a lover, she really just wanted to force him to see and do things her way@@gameraider100
Dick and Jason got the best endings, but Tim got the hug so...
And nightwings ending is the only one where batman survives for sure with few lasting injuries
They all act so differently towards Bruce it's actually well done
Dick treats Bruce like he is his older brother, even joking with each other, Dick is also quicker
Tim acts like Bruce is his father and he is a scared son trying to help as best as he can, Tim is also Smarter
Jason acts like Bruce is his life long friend trying to help him through some serious shit, Jason is also stronger
Barbra entire scene was just weird, it was the only one where Bruce seemed like he just killed himself rather then save them lol
Yeah like Barbara and Talia were about to go at it, then Bruce just runs in front of Barbara and gets himself stabbed for no reason 💀
The funny thing is Tim parents are still alive so bruce is more like his uncle
I’d say barb acted as if Batman was her adopted father sense Jim was obviously dead and Bruce compared her to Jim while she compared herself to Bruce
Yeah, Batgirl's felt the least emotional of the three.
Talia gets the jump on all of them, which Bruce naturally throws himself in front of the danger.
Except for Batgirl, they're ready to square off and Bruce just puts himself in the way just to be stabbed and rendered unable to help.
What about Damien in this timeline?
I realized that Jason, Tim, and Barbara's scenes showed Bruce getting stabbed in the back, but Richard's scene showed Bruce getting slashed by Talia's sword instead.
Which means that nightwing one is canon!!
I think the reason why Bruce held Dick back is because he's the fastest among the four of them and would intercept Talia if Batman didn't react fast enough. Nightwing would also put his body between Bruce and Talia's sword but that's just my idea.
Its a real tear jerker seeing bruce reuniting with his sons especially with jason
What about is baby momma?
Ikr that was crazy like Fr
@@tchoythao1730 nah *beep* her she messed with his mind and told him his kids were dead. *beep* her
@@the_priest_of_holy_moon_cult *beep*
Its ironic. Jason died only to be reborn from the pits, and Bruce tried to save Jason. Now with Jason doing the same. Felt right to have jason in this mission
When said Bruce “I told you and your father to stay away from my family” this shows how much he cares for him and how he is willing to take his own life if it means to protect them.
❤
Jason’s was definitely the best and most logical. He too was brought back with a Lazarus pit and was brought back from its effect, so he knows what Bruce is going through and how to help him. He is also easily the most damaged of the four so him finally hearing what he needed to from Bruce set him free in a way.
Dick: I got you.
Bruce: Yeah. You always do.
That hit the feels. 😢
He says something to each of his sons to reassure them of his belief in them, telling them Tim he’s ready to be a hero, telling Jason he knows he will do good, and this is his way of telling Dick that he absolutely trusts him to take care of everything and everyone in his stead and always has.
Honestly, I think Nightwing was the best. The first protege, coming back to save his mentor/surrogate father.
I mean, he even talks about how Bruce was all he had after his parents died. Then, at the end, with the "Bruce... I got this." It's just a great moment of him coming out of Batman's shadow which was Nightwing's whole deal originally.
Maybe but Jason's is a strong contender given he knows how exposure of the pit works and how best to help Batman recover to resists it's effects.
@@blackdemonknight Oh, sure, but man, it is *lacking* in soul. I feel like that could've been written so much better - could've actually shown some more emotion to Jason since, y'know, his whole story is about trying to find more to his identity beyond his own anger. Feel like they did him and Batgirl dirty.
I liked when nightwing said that Alfred would kill him if Bruce dies again. Humor from oldest child about grandpa with his dad
I think it's more about who you personally relate to
Yesd
I love all the chokeholds, and then there’s Jason, holding him at gun point 💀
*cocks gun* dad we need to talk about you Choice in women
Hes just a barbie girl calm down, jason is a lil girly pop
@@Will.cosplay.Solace he got a whole bakery down there
poor robin. under the hero facade, he’s only just a kid. he’s so scared
31:50
I LOVE that the writers of this game had Bruce acknowledge and call the BatFam HIS family. It’s such a breath of fresh air but it’s also sad that very few writers of Bruce/Batman don’t do it more often. Like, I’ve seen DC comic writers write Bruce/Batman to only see the BatFam as his soldiers and army and blatantly disregard them as his family
For the love of god DC, write Bruce properly and have him show more love towards his found family, cut all the edgy and abusive bullshit drama that TOO many comic writers include when writing about the BatFamily
animated series batman has you covered there hell most of the DCAU from 90s hits the feels
Most of modern DC writers only read Frank Miller's Batman. Aka Fascist psycho Aka CrazySteve. So no surprises they write him wrong in this day and age
@@mrksimka1159 frank Miller was good because it was something that was different at the time but people think that's all he is... which is not the case batman is still Human and has those emotions even if he's a bit jaded and secluded but the love he has for the bat family is real and he'd take damage for them any day.... just hate how they keep trying to make batman more and more gritty like don't get me wrong I love when he wails on criminals and is a badass but I loved when he could just sit down next to a girl that is about to die of a brain related issue and just sit on. Swing and hold her hand till she passes.... like bro that shot from justice league still makes me tear up.. I can't even begin to imagine how batman felt holding her corpse...just God man 😩... oh and don't get me started on the animated series such good story telling and world... I'm going to rewatch that now
I mean edgy and abuse has always been apart of the bat mythos.
@@shadowx8145 it shouldn’t be and it isn’t always
In fact, the edgy and abusive shit should at the very least be rare because it degrades Bruce/Batman’s character
I like that Bruce is more protective over Barbara for Jim’s sake. He doesn’t doubt her skills against Talia, but he doesn’t want her to risk her life for him.
I like how you shredded his health with batgirl but kinds struggled with the other characters
Prolly was his main character haha but I peeped that aswell
Batgirl has a move that shreads health and is better at single target combat
@@DepressedFishey123 😏
She has special move called killing joke.
@@thefiveo344 i should have known people would make jokes about Barbara and The Killing Joke 😂😂
Talia: I should have left you in your grave.
Jason: But'cha didn't!
I love how personalized they made each of these scenes. Personally, I think Jason's was the best with Tim in close second. Jason's line of "you held me together before, so I'm doing it for you now" is just so heartmelting. He knows how it feels to go through the Pit, so him talking Bruce through it is amazing. I also like Tim's because he's just so genuinely happy to see Bruce and its adorable. Cinamon roll needs a hug.
Timmy is a cinnamon role ❤😂
0:15 Bro jumped a 3 foot drop to do a superhero landing
He was a trapeze artist. Kinda in the job description
Style points
14:37 Tim rushing to hug Bruce and being so small next to him after barely being able to fight him off and actually letting go of him while trying to appeal to him during the heat of the fight reminds you that he is actually still a child. You get glimpses of it when there are baby brother moments with his adult siblings, but it is really apparent here.
15:42 You see just how small and young Tim is here too. He can’t even make a dent trying to push Bruce back.
Imagine if we could’ve done this mission as Alfred. I wonder what his responses would’ve been to see Bruce resurrected.
He most likely would have ripped her head off and used it as a hood ornament!
He is veteran after all, too op
A father seeing his son this way would bring out a monster.
*Doom music starts playing*
"Master. Bruce please fight this nonsense Talia is not your ally
Red Hood: Not so fun is it?
Hahaha i only enter for that reaction
I love how everyone panics when Bruce gets hit by Talia except for Red Hood he just goes: What the hell Bruce?!
30:23 Batgirl cracks a joke so funny Bruce Wayne almost has a heart attack.
😂😂
Personally I think Red Hood was rhe best for thus scene not saying others were, but Jason had more experience more than anyone
Nightwing's been in a Lazarus pit before.
@@captaineri.223 if you are referring to that one animated movie then it doesn't count
@@captaineri.223 yeah but Jason’s is more iconic
Jason has experience in the the pit. Which suits get through Bruce from the tali, be free from her
Notes on Jason's - Talia seemed much more aggressive when she heard about Jason being revived. As if she only wanted Bruce to be the only one??? Either way she seemed incredibly more hostile than with the others-
He was her original choice for general in this game
I like how Batman had no faith in batgirl and ran into the sword before she could fight lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂
The way I see it is that the Robins were raised knowing the leagues fighting style so Barbra is less likely to be familiar with it
I feel like between joker paralyzing her and losing Jim, Bruce is more protective over babs then the boys.
Gonna be honest, I find Red Hood's reaction the best. Being that he's gone through all this, he has this chemistry that all the others seem to lack.
I feel neutral on the game, but I did enjoy the interaction and bond Bruce had with the Bat family. Jason's scenes felt more personal considering he too was revived in the Lazarus Pit. I appreciate each of their talk with Bruce in the final moments. Diabolical that Talia took advantage of Bruce after reviving him.
Jason: I’m not going to kill you for Bruce’s sake
(Fires gun)
(Bullet goes through Talias head)
Jason: shit.
You just made my day😂😂😂😂
Well, there is a Lazarus Pit next to them, Who carnes? 😂
Bruce be lookin like Kratos with those muscles
Nightwing was the best hands down imo, just watching a father & son (I know Jason is also his son as well), but Dick being the big brother with the added responsibility of leading the group. I mean look at 7:31 it just says it all there between the two🥺
Tim is also his son and now that Barbara doesn’t have a das anymore ig she’s available for adoption🤔
Red hoods scene damn near made tear up it was giving goosebumps
Batgirl and Batman's interaction was the best. It felt.....original. I like that one very much imo.
Same!!
I understand he's been revived and not at full strength but kinda thought they would add more QTE counters from bruce when the player attacks and whenever he stays within a certain range of the pit, he heals and is numb to damage. Leading to the Appeals being how to beat him instead of actually beating on him and if you do get him to zero, it triggers a bad ending "at what cost?" Or "For the mission" achievement (wishful thinking, not real)
He’s also fucked in the head not thinking strait
That’s actually a really cool detail that Jason was the most effective at getting Bruce to resist the lazurous pits effects
I knew they couldn’t take Batman out of his own games
Technically they did twice now.
He died right after this but who knows I wouldn't be shocked if he is alive in the sequel it's pretty hard to kill the batman
It's not really a Batman game
Batman Arkham games without batman is not Arkham games he is the lead protagonist that start it all
@@deandredunbar9618 so he dies twice?
Jason’s attitude during this let alone the whole game is just perfect
“you just had to try dying for yourself”
and during talia’s monologue you could feel him rolling his eyes
I love how each interaction is different and ties to the character’s journey. Nightwing shows Bruce that he’s ready to step up and take on the responsibility as leader of the BatFamily. Bruce tells Tim that he no longer needs Batman to protect Gotham. Bruce shows Jason that he has complete faith in him. Barbara shows Bruce that she’s just like her father and will never give up.
I love how Tim and Dick are the only ones who did some decent damage to Talia even though Jason should’ve had an advantage given the fact that he’s the same age as Dick and his abilities have been boosted by the Lazarus pit making him stronger and faster than an average human being
Not same age as Dick he’s slightly younger but yeah he’s second in overall skill and experience right after him it makes no sense for Tim to preform better.
I mean they all did about the same amount of damage and played to their fighting style. Dick swarmed her with a flurry of hits and caught her off guard with a baton kick. Tim used his staff to keep distance and got a good kick to keep distance then idk if he actually hit her with his staff when they separated. Jason rushed her trying to strong precise hits while also dodging and willing to take a hit himself.
@@tylercollins2868 Tim and Dick are the only two that got more than one hit off on her and barely took any hits themselves which doesn’t make much sense since I’m pretty sure if I remember correctly Tim is the least skilled out of all the robins and he shouldn’t be able to even hold his own against someone like Talia until much later in his life when he’s an adult like Dick and Jason
@@TonyJaaFan1587 Dick had one clean hit. Tim had two, and I gave him the poke at the end. Jason had three clean hits. Tim is not a skilled fighter, which is clear from the fact that he keeps dodging and running away from Talia, countering when he could. As I've already said, Dick is swarming her, so she doesn't have a chance to respond, and he's avoiding her with his greater agility. Jason, who is built like a tank, won't be able to move around as well in close quarters, especially when fighting experienced fighters. He avoids attacks that could potentially harm him like the sword, but he takes the ones he could eat cause someone Talia's frame is not doing a lot of damage to someone like Jason bare handed.
@@tylercollins2868 Jason literally says "this is gonna hurt you a lot more that it will me" so yes I think his style of fighting generally involves eating a couple hits to hurt the opponent a lot more. It makes sense given his bulky build and heightened strength.
Jason's is The only ending that feels canon, it basically completes his whole character arc. The others are just kinda the same at The end.
Agreed, imo this game really compliments and works for Jason’s character the most. Jason has the most connection to the League, Lazarus Pits,
and Bruce’s Life and Death arc as well
Maybe if there was more Court of Owls, maybe with William Cobb then Dick would’ve had something more as well. Lincoln March could’ve been a cool choice as well
@@gabebartlett9680 Even the changes they added for him fit so well to the story. He promised for Bruce's sake to go non-lethal and the wavelength between the group of him and the others were a bit shaky because of his purge villains past.
@@brightbeyonddarkness The only change that is glaringly absent is Jason's dialogue with Talia.
Given his history with Talia and the League of Shadows, I would have expected unique dialogue between him and Talia as well as their own choice words in said dialogue.
Can we take a moment to appreciate how badass and gritty this version of Bruce Wayne looks. What a gigachad
I love Jason's since he was also resurrected.
I love Jason’s. Pep talk of the century from one Lazarus pit victim to another.
Dick and Jason’s were my favorites. They’re all really good in their own way
I absolutely love the glowing green eyes, if Damian is ever in this game or if they make a second one and he’s in it-I hope to everything they give him those glowing green eyes
Nah how he said u died again Jason had me dying💀
My favourite reaction is the saddest reaction of Red Hood... I could already tell and feel how he felt under that mask when he took his first gasp...
I like that little detail that Bruce recognizes Jason even while he's still under the effects of the Lazarus Pit.
5:52 The relief in Bruce’s voice that his beloved eldest son who has always had his back and his trust is alive in front of him, and the relief in Dick’s voice that his dad is truly alive and he won’t actually have to hurt him is heartbreaking :’( It has been proven several times that Dick is actually stronger than Bruce with higher combat skills and that he is always holding back because his goal is to stop people not hurt them. As soon as Bruce realizes that Dick is there he immediately leans on him for help, as he always has, and also does everything he can to protect him.
6:53 Bruce immediately calming down, listening to him, and showing his absolute trust in and love for Dick is wonderfully done and so accurate!
All of them have a solid interaction with Bruce and his following injury. That being said, I think Jason has my favorite.
To watch Batman die twice is just too much
They actually managed to kill Batman. That too twice in a single game
"You brought me back from the edge, Bruce. Stopped me from killing!" He said calmly aiming a gun to Bruces head
I like all of them for different reasons. Dick's the first, the original surrogate son, and there's feeling in that. Tim truly loves Bruce like a father (and vice versa) and the struggle to not break down is noticeable. Jason has personal experience with Lazarus Pits and it shows in the dialogue, as well as his relationship with Bruce and the arc completion moment. Barbara's feels original, a bit more fleshed out even without the Lazarus Pit connection (if there's one, please correct me), and her love for him also shows strongly. My only question is why a slash in Nightwing's but a stab in the rest?
Nightwings would be the canon ending as the stab endings are much more likely to be fatal granted Jason would most likely just throw Bruce back in the pit
These are so good, but it's incredibly hard to take it seriously with Tim's cape intersecting his leg and Bruce's hover hand over Jason's shoulder. Brilliant stuff.
Honestly I think they should’ve handled it differently. I know it was a story about the bat family. But if they let you play as Bruce or Batman for the final boss it would’ve been so good.
They might as well especially if they make a trilogy,they could've brought him back somehow in the third edition
@@thothgold2768 what trilogy
@@SheeshReo in case it ever gets a sequel where they add Damian into the Bat Family
@@guts-141 bro it hasn't even beem a year yet but people are already thinking of a sequel or a trilogy. Calm your horses
Naw, he already got 4 games
Bruce: *coughing and dying*
Also Bruce: *"Can't leave a job half done"*
Uh uh, bro is the sigma of sigmas
Honestly, Night Wing’s feels so RIGHT. XD like it just feels perfect for their story.
30:29 Batman can’t contain his laughter
I’m dead 💀💀💀☠️☠️☠️
Lmao, I like how gameplay wise jason and barbara were just beating the crap out of bruce and were dealing the most damage.
All of these scenes are pretty good for the most part, I just wish they could’ve changed Talia’s dialogue just a little bit so it made more sense. As it stands, some of her dialogue doesn’t match up very well with what each character is saying.
It feels like it was designed for the Nightwing option, then forced to fit the others.
Red hood “What I wasn’t good enough for you”😂😂😂
I knew it I knew it all along Batman was gonna be revived 😂
Well he died again after 🤣
14:38 father and son, cuties
23:25 the way jason tries to help bruce staying calm because he knows how the lazarus pit works and what it makes to a person💔💔💔
The way tim said Bruce the second time sent a shockwave through me
Arkham Knight flashback:
Nightwing: I won't let you down.
Batman: I know.
Damn , bruce appearance looks like a new character for street fighter , infact he looks like a cousin of Ryu
Talia: did you know the lazarus pit isn't just for healing? it can weaken the mind, make it more malleable
Jason: ...who do you think you're talking to rn
Exactly the reason why I was expecting a different dialogue, especially given Jason's past history with Talia and the League of Shadows.
This game was successful enough to warrant a sequel, whether people like it or not. I’d really like to see them do a Battle for the Cowl storyline where the batfamily has conflict about who gets to wear the cowl next, then they can introduce Damian as the next phase to Talia’s plan. Eventually he can join the family and be playable as the new Robin.
I haven't actually read the comics, but almost all of the knights have some form of arc.
Dick is the new Batman in the BftC story, and probably has the most time spent with Bruce.
Jason (my favorite "hero") deals with his death and Lazarus effects. He finally finds acceptance from his mentor.
Barbara is also compelling, she already looks like Batman, plus Batwoman in red. She deals with the GCPD after Jim died and in my playthrough, her being the new knight is kinda fitting.
Tim is the youngest, but he learns how to handle things Batman would in his early years. His arc is a strong coming-of-age story
Id actually hate for them to bicker over who gets to wear the cowl if the story is a sequel to this. You would have to back track their character arcs about being a team just to have them fight of who is batman when the game was about them becoming their own knights. A really bad direction to take a sequel there.
@@aerostrafe1075 It’s not entirely backtracking if crime in the city is getting worse due to Batman’s absence, the Court is more and more active as the ranks are rebuilt, while the League is plotting their next move and potentially introducing Damian like said previously, maybe Bane and his squad begin to infiltrate Gotham know that Batman’s gone. Then the Knights contemplate on leaving the ideal of Batman dead or voting on one of them becoming the next Bat. It’s for the purpose of storytelling and more customization for the Knights, giving you more choice within the game. They each go through their arc in Gotham Knights where they recognize their worth as a protector of Gotham, could easily lead into them questioning who’s more worthy to be the Bat. The comic storyline for Battle for the Cowl wasn’t exactly a concrete idea on paper either, but they made it work. Ended up with Dick taking on the role of Batman while Damian was Robin. Better options for a sequel rather than just lazily bringing back Bruce.
@@Drax1109 If all that is happening then even stranger for them to battle one another over who should be batman. The context also wouldn't work as well since batman has been gone awhile.
@@aerostrafe1075 Would be way better if they advance on their appearances in the inspiration of batman, instead of bickering over the cowl, still working as a 4 people squad in Gotham just as Bruce would've wanted.
Batgirl: Please don't do this.
A few seconds later: let's do this.
I love it how night Wings is the only one that has Batman not get stabbed
Talia and her father NEVER learned a GODDAMN THING.
Ras actually got a wholesome growth in the comics
@@Zeb0101 wholesome in what way?
@@kdkdk_01 in the last Robin run Damian is saved by a Ras without league who seems to been doing nothing after Talia took over it, anyway in the following interaction with his grandson is shown that he has been reflecting over his approach to save the world and Bruce approach to save his own city and concluded he was to harsh with humanity cause even with centuries he didn't consider once other ways more than genocide, later he surrender to authorities and convince Talia as well to do it for Damian. That's the summary (more likely)
cool how Red Hood makes Bruce break out of the Lazarus effect alot quicker than the others.
Talia treats Tim as a child, but forgets he was trained by Shiva, who would slap Talia silly on her worst days.
The voice actors are phenomenal!
The OG arkham voices are alot better
@@alanngo268 I know but these new ones put so much effort in this part,it feels SO good!!!
robin's cape when pulling out his staff to talia be like: "GO CRAZY, AAHHAHH, GO STUPID"
How much more lore is referenced and how there's actually more dialogue in Batgirl's sequence makes it loud and clear who is the canonical main character of this game.
Honestly on batgirls version he really didn’t need to get stabbed
Honestly doesn't matter which version it is, he'd probably still make it out alive if he didn't decide to "Sacrifice" his life, AGAIN.
I think the saddest one to play are Dick,Jason and Tim
And Barbara?
@@algordo1997 i mean the saddest ones
Honestly the Batgirl cutscenes feel cringy with overacting screaming Bruce and Barbara voice actress feeling amateur-ish.
@@ultronstudios5119 yeap but you said it for everyone what make this funny)
@@mrksimka1159 True, But there's a difference in Mentor & Student and Father & Sons
I would have loved for the line of Tim's that breaks througb to Bruce to have been "Bruce? Are you in there? Dad!"
If the line that broke through to Bruce was Tim calling him "dad" for the first time. I would have started crying
I loved the fact that Tim rams and hugs Bruce like really Tim is a good son to him and the closest thing to Bruce. But also thought it was Dick who was closer but still makes sense for Tim
2:45 The voice actor here really got the tone right, there is so much emotion put in that one word, you can hear his voice (and heart) breaking over "Bruce?"