Wings Of Romulus: Reman Scimitar 'Shadowed blade'
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- today we look at the fearsome reman battleship. also apologies for using eldar and dark eldar to represent ground troops there's basically
no actual images of trek ground battles.
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Speaking of music. Venom can you link the tracks you used for the video?
some of them are linked in the Desc. they are all from the youtube audio library. in order 'Final Count' 'sharp senses' 'new order' 'gangsta choir Descends' 'its coming' 'medusa' 'decline' 'final count' again, 'wild fires' and 'funeral march for brass' at the credits.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 will you cover the Romulan Dreadnoughts from STO?
I can't ,for the life of me, find the theme you used for when you described the ship itself.
@1960jefbot that was the aim. glad i lived up to your expectations.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 I'm surprised I have not seen an Eaglemoss model of this kick-a** ship produced...a model of this ship with the motion/conversation into the Thaylaron firing configuration would be awesome to build and desplay!! Even a dual model kit for each configurations would sell well.. Guess we will have to wait..🤔
I always imagined the Scimitar being a Tal Shiar "off the books" project to finish what Enabran Tain started. i.e. sneak into the Gamma Quadrant with it's superior cloak and stealth technologies, locate the Founder's homeworld, and destroy the founders with a thalaron pulse.
The reason that Tain's mission failed was due to Founder infilitration, which was hard to avoid when secretely building a fleet of starships. But you might be able to secretely build one supership...
And if the Scimitar did encounter trouble it was so well armed and armored and it's cloak so perfect that could either evade or win any battle it faces.
Even if getting into the Gamma quadrant wasn't a possibility the Scimitar would have been a great weapon to end the war quickly if it devolved into a stalemate, which looked likely there for a while.
I didn't realize the Eldar of the 41st millenium were taking potshots from the shadows in the Dominion War, hehe.
Crazy assholes that they are
The Romulans needed to join the Dominion War anyway. If the Federation and Klingons had lost the war, both governments would have sought refuge within the Romulan Empire, followed hotly by the Dominion victors.
Thus, the Romulans would have been invaded anyway, with no pier power to turn to for alliance. They had to join the fight.
Missing DA BOYZ now
Romulans and Vulcans are basically space elves. Although the Romulans are more analogous to the Dark Eldar than the Eldar.
Standard dickery by ol' Eldrad's standards.
The Federation were absolute fools not to defend and mine the wormhole much earlier. They found a tunnel that led to a malevolently hostile empire that was extremely powerful and which had genetically engineered warriors and let them bring in massive fleets, millions of troops and a huge amount of resources. And what’s more they knew they would be coming for over a year!
As a certain Vulcan would put it, “Fascinating.”
Not really sure how much firing while cloaked is a breakthrough when the Klingons could do that a century before.
I'm a big fan of Nemesis and the Dominion battleship and it's fascinating to see the influence the battleship had over the design of the Scimitar. Great video!
What's extra amazing is Venom pieced all this together IN SPITE of What's been on screen
The thalaron array did not malfunction, it was directly attacked. Big difference.
simple the thalaron array was destroyed when cmdr data fired his phaser into its main primary generator when it was near full power causing the ship which it powered to be destroyed.
Things you shoot at tend to malfunction.
@@MrAranton So that´s why these carbon units don´t move anymore..damn
I'm surprised the Romulan military didn't take more intertest in the Jem'Hadar's personal cloaking tech during the Dominion War. You'd think something like that would fall right in line with their base strategy. Given their love for cloaked infiltration and combat tactics in space.
Even if not made completely invisible. Some kind of sensor blocking personal stealth tech would have been invaluable.
If I’m not mistaken the Jem’hadar shroud was biological, not technological. For example, the newly grown Jem’hadar found by the crew of DS9 before the war was able to shroud without any equipment.
10:13 That Shamshir/Scimitar retrofit is way better looking than what's on STO. WAY better. Freaking dripping with malevolence and sheer malice. Kudos to that artist.
thats another great piece by jetfreak-7@deviantart he's a real favorite of mine. and the ship: the Scythe is a really nice elegant design.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 Good of you to have the artist's name.:)
Correction:The Scimitar's thaleron generator wasn't destroyed do to a malfunction it was because of Lt. Commander Data of the Enterprise E who sacrificed himself to save his shipmates by taking his phaser and firing into the thaleron generator on the Scimitar's bridge at point blank range effectively destroying the Scimitar but at a great loss of a great Starfleet officer and a good friend of the crew of the U.S.S. Enterprise.
If I'm not mistaken Data sacrificed himself to cause the containment field to fail after getting Picard teleported off the doomed sip,
Exactly.
One of the reasons the Remans had superior night vision is because they lived on the dark side of their home planet the Planet Remus and the reason for that is because one side of said planet always faced the Romulan sun which had 'Extreme temperatures on that side of the Reman Homeworld' as mentioned by Lt. Commander Data of the Starship Enterprise E.
The only Romulan ship in STO I will not swap appearance components onto. Leave the Reman scimitar pure in it's design as it's a classic.
This is great!! It's like Star Trek nuances with Mark Felton!
Venom you have the best Star trek channel out and the ✨Scimitar✨ is one of my favorite ships thanks I liked and subscribe 😁
Cloak aside a simple gravometric detection system would pick this up before it got anywhere near weapon range
This is my favorite ST Lore channel on TH-cam; it's absolutely criminal you don't have more subscribers -_-
Seeing a bunch of Eldar troops was trippy as heck though until I noticed your uploader note haha
yeah i sort of wrote myself into a corner and had to find something to put on screen. and the eldar are basically the romulans of 40k
@@venomgeekmedia9886 I dunno, I'm not sure even the Romulans are that Teeth-Shatteringly arrogant and self important
@@weldonwin perhaps not quite. but everyone in 40k is way over the top compared to other sci fi.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 Yeah, 40K doesn't really do Subtle or Nuance, everything has to be bonkers over the top... though now I do have to chuckle at the thought of a Klingon warrior, seeing a Romulan Aspect Warrior, carving Jem'Hadar apart with a chainsword, then the Klingon looking at his Batleth and feeling kinda cheated
This is what happens when a Kerchan is left on Remus for too long.
Great video! Really good job of explaining how the Scimitar came into being and filling in some of the blanks of the Romulan experience during the Dominion War!
Outstanding videos; both the writing and narration (voice) make these extremely interesting and entertaining.
Neutrality was just their way of letting their enemies beat each other down untill they were able to defeat them on their own.
I know it’s an older video, but I think I noticed Eldar in some of the slides.
Vreenak was killed as a result of a bomb placed on his ship by Garak as it left station DS9 so it would LOOK like a Dominion assassination. This had the effect of drawing the Romulans into the war.
i'd be cautious of making such remarks. the tal-shiar does not take kindly to those who spread dominion propaganda....
LOL. Please accept my sincere apologies....*slowly reaches for phaser pistol*
Lol! But you are right Smith I was going to say the same thing, of course mentioning Captain Sisko's involvement too. I love these videos Venom Geek Media, they are amazingly well done!! Really fascinating. Where do you get all the minutia from for the stories? I love the case studies and the excellent breakdowns of the battles too.
The Dominion did not kill the Romulan ambassador, Garrak did. He didn't tell Sisko the whole plan and planted a bomb on the Ambassadors shuttle. The Romulan's assumed the Dominion had done it because of the data rod you showed the Romulan holding in this video. It was a fake recording of a meeting Weyoun supposedly had with Damar about invading the Romulan Empire. There by betraying their non- aggression treaty. The Romulan's bought it because its exactly what they would have done roles reversed. Oh and the Scimitar's Thaleron Reactor did not malfunction Data shot it with a phaser after saving Picard, kinda a big deal for the story of the ship. :)
thats dominion lies!
He's speaking from the perspective of the Romulan Senate here.
Shinzo wanted Picard there because of the syndrome that plagued him which the Federation had found a cure for. the Romulans didn’t care about Shinzon
Baseless Federation propaganda asserting that Shinzon was not in fact Reman. but a human clone. this a baseless roomer spread by the enemies of the Empire.
It wasn’t an illness that the federation had a cure for, it was because he was cloned and had been aged prematurely to catch up with Picards age. He needed genetic material from Picard to stop the accelerated ageing and stabilise his DNA.
@@MegaParrotMan He developed his disorder because his aging was NOT artificially made faster...
While the Scimitar was made to be easily superior to anything Starfleet had at the time, the Scimitar's battle with the Enterprise really didn't see it cripple the Federation flagship. Even after ramming the Scimitar, the Enterprise still had enough power move at impulse, if only slowly. As such, the Enterprise wasn't crippled. And given that it had used up all its photon torpedoes, but there is no mention on its quantum torpedoes, the Enterprise wasn't necessarily without weapons at that point, either... though given that the Enterprise had drained through what power it could send to its phasers by that point and done minimal damage to the Scimitar and its shields... even after the cloak was broke or disabled, the quantum torpedoes may not have helped much. Thus the ram and attempt at self-destruct
Now, much of this has more to do with the fact that Shinzon was handicapped by the fact that he needed Picard alive. Thus why so many of his shots were aimed to try and cripple the Enterprise and wear down its shields. If he went all in... in much the way he did with the two Romulan warbirds, he would have risked destroying the Enterprise completely and as such, Shinzon would have succumbed to the genetic disease that Picard had before being able to secure power in the long term. Thus he had to hold back, at least until he could get Picard and thus handicapped his own ship, while Picard, trying to save Earth was under no such limitation.
The Scimitar hoplessly crippled Enterprise without it's shields being penetrated. Had the Scimitar's commander been simply ordered to hunt down and destroy any and all Federation vessels intruding into Romulan space, he'd have destroyed Enterprise easily.
I believe Data specifically mentioned using up all their torpedoes (both photon and quantum).
I always wondered how it could power cloaking device, radiation weapon, and regular weapons, if Diana hadn't used telethapy to find it, it would have beat enterprise
@@TheBigExclusive no he didn't manton quantum torpedoes. ( phasers and photon torpedoes) was the line as far as ee saw enterprise only fired 9 quantum torpedoes. But the system may have benn damaged. ?
Didn't even get the basic facts right...the ship was destroyed by Data when he sacrificed himself saving Picard it didn't malfunction at all.
Federation propaganda!
Any chance of a 'what if' showdown between the Scimitar and the Jem'Hadar battleship?
"ONE FELL SWOOOOOOP!"..
Lol I was so caught up. Concerned even. Love your voice and music. Awesome. Thank you!!
I'm surprised I have not seen an Eaglemoss model of this kick-a** ship produced...a model of this ship with the motion/conversation into the Thaylaron firing configuration would be awesome to build and desplay!! Even a dual model kit for each configurations would sell well.. Guess we will have to wait..🤔
Eaglemoss has a Scimitar model...it´s even XL..somewhat.
Sadly they missed the chance to make it the same scale as the Enterprise E
Also, they could have beamed some torpedos onto this ship after ramming it in the last tng movie
I know you used the Dark Eldar images to illustrate your point but imagine the Romulans with actual Eldar/Dark Eldar equipment and technology. I doubt anyone would be able to oppose them
Well if the romulans have eldar fighting for them it should make for an interesting war.
shame we never get to see it on screen.
Do you want Admiral Adam aka The Emperor's secret 24th century identity from Starfleet research getting directly involved? Because that's how you get Admiral Adam directly involved.
Excellent vid; Scimitar gets a lot of unnecessary flak from the community but it seems perfectly reasonable to me. Dominion introduced a new class of dreadnought type ship, so naturally other powers would have to catch up with their own just like real life.
unnecessary it's overpowered as hell
Wow, so the Scimitar was designed around the Thaleron weapon like the Tiger tank was designed around the 88.
My favorite ship in trek next to the B'rel and D'deridex.
Technicaly that's a radiological weapon not a biogenic weapon..
Last time I was this early, a dinosaur ate my homework......
Another awesome episode!!!!!!!
As for that "malfunction" that destroyed the Scimitar--you mean the positronic android malfunction? lol
The Romulans would call Data with a phaser a "malfuncton", tho, wouldn't they?
rather than admit the ship was beaten. yes. poor Reman engineering is to blame.
Another cool video of yours I just found. I'm enjoying the content, keep it up.
I've always wondered, without using the theloron weapon, how many scimitar class ships would be needed to defeat a single borg cube.
Depends on who is commanding
@@weldonwin how about if Shinzon was commanding?
@@shawn092182 Shinzon is basically Picard, if he were a psychopath and was a highly talented commander during the Dominion War. Give Shinzon the Scimitar and an escorting group of Vampire attack ships and I think he could kill a Cube well enough.
Although a formidable ship, not much can stand up to a Cube. Battling the Borg (was supposed to be like) fighting a thunderstorm.
@@Clenched.Cheeks with nothing but weighted gloves.
Why all the 40K Eldar, umm Eldari, space elves as illustrations in the vid? Why so much of it?
Scimitar revealing herself was one of the most haunting things in ST "Shes a Predator!" - th-cam.com/video/PWDZ5ewJbXM/w-d-xo.html
Great video. I enjoy your work!
Garak and Sisko assassinated the Romulan senator, not the Dominion.
That's a conspiracy theory 😉
@@venomgeekmedia9886 It's a Fake!!!!
Using thalaron on the borg...
The Romulans have no qualms about using that as a weapon.
On the other hand, you never want to be giving the Borg ideas...
1500 crew and 2000 troops in a ship 800 meters long and 1200 meters wide?? It’s bloody empty! You could stagger around for days and never run into a fellow creature!
The wings are not manned. It's a small crew but it allows for massive cargo use and duration.
Err.. what.. I'm fairly sure romulus has more than a few spares in the chain of succession..
Still going strong on here 💪🏻, keep it up bro
Still Remember the few videos done back in your early days at uni
the scimitar was a nod to picars lionfish
Late to the party, but I'll ask it anyway. To all who read this: what do you personally think of the Scimitar on a meta level? I don't mean how powerful or advance it was, but rather how fitting it was for its place and time. Also, what do you think of the accusations that Scimitar's tech and power being unreasonable to the point of it being silly?
the Scimitar is undeniably powerful. is it overpowered.... no. its big advantage is its cloak, and frankly that does seem a natural evolution of romulan tech. underneath its a romulan-dominion hybrid and bear in mind its size its probably about 3/4 the strength of a dominion battleship. so its onscreen performance i don't think is unreasonable.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 I personally agree for the most part about its conventional combat, save this: the perfect cloak in combat. I can buy into the idea of a perfect cloak during passive running, but not during battle. I know it does reveal itself momentarily, but I think Lore Reloaded had it right here: it shouldn't be a perfect cloak when its blasting out megatons worth of plasma. If I personally could rewrite the battle a bit, I would have the Scimitar's cloak having a limit whilst shooting. Maybe allow it to cloak/decloak with shields at full strength or having just a few seconds worth of cloak while firing before it fails and becomes visible. Something to prevent it from just pounding away while cloaked. I would have loved to have seen the Scimitar less what it was and more a giant bird of prey.
Actually, it reminds me of Spacedock's hypothetical battle between the Scimitar and a Reaper from Mass Effect. Now that I think about it, I basically stole all of his ideas about the Scimitar.
@@deinekes9 I normally like Spacedock but that battle was dumb as hell, the Scimitar would destroy a reaper with its opening volley. It's so one sided that it's practically a spite match. Mass Effect is EXTREMELY weak for sci fi, their dreadnaughts spinal mass drivers (their most powerful weapon) is measured in the low kilitons for God's sake, A single photon torpedo is 125-150 times as powerful as a dreadnaughts main weapon, the Scimitar has 27 torpedo launchers.... A reaper is impressive in their own universe compared to the weak powers they compete with. A galaxy class could have done the same thing Sovereign did to the citadel fleet, probably worse because the galaxy wouldn't have to close to knife fighting range to start destroying ships, they have 250 torpedoes and every one of those fired is a dead ship, not even counting the phaser banks. If you highball the reapers to hell and back them maybe they're roughly equal to star trek except that mass effect shields do fuck all to stop energy weapons which is the primary weapons of ever single star trek power and pump out damage on par with that of their torpedoes....
Plus there's what, a few thousand reapers including the smaller destroyer types? So even if the entirety of the reaper fleet attacked a single Alpha Quadrant power they'd still be outnumbered by a technologically superior force using weapons 100+ times as powerful as the council races that their shields are incapable of stopping. It's not even close.
Could you make a video about all the romulan slave races with in the empire. Thx
At 1:03 the picture of the scimitar kinda looks like a alien creature from metroid fusion called nightmare very creepy
didn't notice that but yeah. also Metroid Fusion that's memories
Excellent!!!!!!
Just curious, why the constant changing of colours in certain scenes? Is it because of copyright reasons?
no its just generally if something is onscreen for a long time and is otherwise visually dull. it helps make it pop.
Well done!
It takes about 15 minutes till he starts talking about Romulan "Wings"
40k is not romulan
it was the closest i could get.
And drukhari
Aeldari?
UNDER THE BATMANS WING!
Glory to the Romulans!
This sounds so much like the 1990s documentary series "Wings of the Red Star". Coincidence?
there may be some inspiration...
@@venomgeekmedia9886 Awesome! That was my favorite shows on Discovery Channel. Subbed!
Were the Remans introduced in Nemesis?
yes
5:16 argh! Random Warhammer Xenos!!!
That's not how the Scimitar was destroyed. Is this canon or lore?
its the truth officially recognized by the imperial senate...
When you were reading off the armaments I was thinking "Compensate much?" 😂 Sounds like he needed all those guns for something else 😂😂 it's like little guys with big trucks on lift kits and 48" tires
It's a warship not a truck, it should be as heavily armed as possible. The only thing he's compensating for is being outnumbered 10:1.
Kind of an odd choice to use pictures of Eldar
Warp 9.7...should not he been able to run down the sovereign enterprise e at maximum warp at 9.975
true but the enterprise E would have had no way of knowing. and might have slowed down for the bassen rift.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 I suspect it was more a plot hole. The difference from 9.7 to .9.975 is insane. Even then, the rest of the fleet just waited and did nothing when the enterprise did not emerge,etc
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someone was stealing from warhammer 40k.
literally had no pictures for ground troops, so subbed in eldar.
well Remans had their great moment and it`s gone after the destruction of that ship lol. Slaves again
Good video but some of your info was not accurate, you should watch in the pale moonlight and nemesis again. Good job though keep it up and live long and prosper.
thanks. could you say what specifics i missed out on? or was it more the general romulan mood?
Your pronunciation of R is a bit weird.
Speech impediment? Not making fun, just asking.
Lol I have designed star trek universe handguns that could blow that ship away.. it always the same when lore is written by dweebs with no actual technical or logistic training... just bigger and more guns.. always bigger and more guns...
A gigantic super-dreadnought somehow constructed in secret in the Romulan home system is one of the many ludicrous flaws in this awful movie
Halfway through and your losing points . Heretic!!! Use of 40k art for star trek is heresy!!! Beware the Emperor's Inquisition. :) No but really that's not cool :/
there was literally nothing else i wish there was. although at least i didn't literally have an elf. like another trek show....
Well you do good videos lol so forgiven .... for now xD
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Nerds are triggered lol