Chris R. "Sponsorship, Meeting Etiquette, and More" 12-Step Alcoholism Recovery
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- Chris R. one of the best AA speakers, gives a wonderful talk in 2011, sharing about a variety of topics.
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I love hearing people identify as recovered 💪 The usual gold from
Chris R, thanks man 🙏
Chris and his sponsees do it right. As a 22 year AA retread I wish I would have known Chris's "Fundamentalist" approach when I first came in. I freaked out when Brian B. and Chris B. et al (who were sponsored by Chris R.) first hit me with their "rapid" approach to doing the steps. Now the only way I can repay is through some serious unreserved 12th step work.
You WILL have an authentic spiritual experience that will keep you away from alcohol and the associated beyond shitty life associated with it if you work the steps as soon as you quit shaking enough to be able to write.
He is the first AA speaker I heard. My buddy bought me a Big Book. Opened it to the first page and told me this is what you know about AA and alcoholism, NOTHING. Then he told me listen to this guy(Chris Raymer). Two days later I'm at my first meeting. Raymer was my first sponsor(in absentia). Then I got a real sponsor, Greg. A few days later, on Easter Sunday I took my 5th,6th,7th,8th and 9th steps. And I was freed of the bondage of my past. I had already been working my 10th, 11th and 12th steps. So I am lucky to have done it the way the first AA's did it and through the Grace of our Creator, the three legacy's and walking the walk, I have recovered from a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body. I am no longer powerless. I am no longer hopeless. Today I love myself and others. I now have real power and real hope. For me, for you. And for all who would walk this path, this Red Road!!! I am now working on emotional sobriety. And it's a tough nut to Crack, but well worth it. I'm worth it. You are worth it, and we are all worth it. All who would walk this Road... Godspeed
Chris Raymer taught me what aa is and what it isn't this man saved my life god bless you Chris !!!
How can I get Chris R email address?
I wish this guy could sponsor me. He keeps it simple and doesnt complicate the 12 Steps. im seeing things much clearer now. Thanks Chris.
Me too
Find a primary purpose group near you
How you doing Nate?
Raymer is the best I've ever heard. And there are a lot of great AA speakers.
One of the best qualifications I have ever heard. Thanks for sharing your experience strength and hope.
ح ربت روعي
I love how he explains sponsorship & meeting etiquette
Finally, someone who will address the "invisible elephant" in the rooms of AA. BAD SPONSORSHIP.
Even though I'm in NA, I find this tape so encouraging. Thankyou.
Might we all take a moment to remember many people, including myself, come to recovery thinking agnostically and eventually evolve into a belief of a higher power through AA and other 12-step programs. Personally, I appreciate this person's comment and the fact that he is listening in the first place. I don't believe these forums are a place for debate, but rather a place to give and receive recovery. Shouldn't we be respectful of others stages of recovery, as certainly we needed someone to be of ours at some point or another? I also believe it is often a progression and building of one's knowledge base and experience (good and bad) that leads to recovery and sanity! Just as the progression of the disease made us what we are....exceptional people who hold a greater understanding of humanity than many can conclude. I consider myself immensely fortunate to know the things about the human spirit I have learned because of my alcoholism, and I sometimes feel sorry for "normies" who don't know what I know (especially those arrogant judgmental bastard types). Think about it, some people will die miserable (alcoholic or not) and never have the chance to live as joyously and gratefully as the recovering alcoholic or drug addict does. I am now a psychology major studying addiction and I encourage others too investigate the theory of "self-actualization". I found the concept especially helpful in escaping the debilitating idea I held about myself that I could never be considered a worthy human being after some of the things I did while a practicing alcoholic. Peace be with you all and best wishes for the glorious life that awaits you should you remain in recovery!! And please, please, please consider helping another who still suffers.
Diane Karst thanks
You rock ! What a fantastic comment :-)
Diane Karst was
Excellent comment!! Thanks.
Got to hear him speak every week in treatment at Origins Recovery in Texas. He is the best there is!
Chris R you have helped save my life you Prevented another drunk you and Cliff Bishop and Mary W. Love you!!!
I was blessed to hear Chris this past weekend @ the Appalachian Roundup. Spot On!
That was an awesome conference. I was so energized after that one.
Chris R. has taught me the truth of recovery. I can honestly say he has such insight and passion.
The fact that every time I hear him speak he has to state that if anyone gets offended that he knows he pisses a lot of ppl off, that’s astounding to me, he speaking the facts
Only differences I experienced from this speaker is I did the 6th and 7th step alone. My sponsor wasn't with me.
2) I waited a little longer less than a week to get my instructions for the 9th step.
The process took away the obsession for alcohol and drugs.
I am eternally grateful for a sponsor who knew what he was talking about.
Absolutly love this program and you folks.
Thank you chris... I think you said what a lot of others wanted to say, but we're too worried about people getting upset to really spread this message of hope
Did my steps in 30 days 🙏💗 no piss poor sponsorship here
Thanks Chris, Rock on brother, thank you for your courage to speak the truth
God bless 👍 🙏 ❤ 🌍 🇬🇧
Nowhere in the big book does it talk about getting a sponsor , it talks about getting a closed-mouth friend to do a fifth step. I also am a step technician believing that steps are open and roomy. I also believe that the steps should not take more than 30 days. I agree that 90 & 90 and calling a sponsor every day is BS. I pray all throughout the day, reading Daily Reflections & 24 hours a Day, reading the first 103 pages,To Wives, the family afterwards, and To Employers are not instructions for my recovery, of the BB is paramount to my recovery. In my homegroup, if we see a newcomer cracking on a female we confront he/she as soon as possible. We suggest dressing appropriately is conducive to getting better as well. Thanks again Chris for another great talk.
FEAR is our greatest handicap early on in the rooms of AA. And these selfishly motivated “sponsors” are well aware of it. They know newcomers won’t question their ego driven directions. So they adopt newcomers and try to run their lives with opinions.
The Big Book is clear! We are to offer the newcomer this kit of Spiritual tools; if they’re interested in utilizing them. If they want to recover, and are willing to go to any lengths.
I Love you all 🙏
If the word God scares you out of AA , no worries. King Alcohol will scare you back in. I always wondered why the ABC's say , "Probably" no human power could relieve our alcoholism.
God of your own understanding 🦋
Bryan Resch, That’s the only problem that I have with Meetings. I was a Christian at one time, but I completely lost my faith. I do believe in there being Power in Numbers.♥️ Could the group be my HP?
@@CMoore8539 Yes
@@Mandalas12 God as we understood Him is what it says
@@CMoore8539 group of drunks (GOD) Good Orderly Direction, 🙏🙏🏽🌈
THANKYOU for some clarity in HOW IT WORKS ! I'm mystified at how it's so simple and not made so. I had a real struggle understanding why I felt so odd about how things are going at times. I will use what u have to say for when I get the point ofsponsorship! thankyou so much its refreshing to know that my thoughts are spoken through u I'm not alone!
Perfect message. This has helped me so much as a sponsor and recovered member of OA (primary purpose overeaters anonymous)
We need You!!!
Very motivating, I needed this.
Makes you realise how enlightened the big book is. I guess AA culture has drifted from the book at various times/places. Getting back to the big book is the idea, although i justifying self righteous anger?! The grouch and the brainstorm are poison for alcoholics. Things like this make me go back and actually read the darn big book for what it actually suggests. Shouting rants aren't advised. Mind you, I listen to Chris a lot - does cut through some chaff.
I love you Chris R.Thank you so much. You are a breath of fresh air. I wish f--- was in the BB or even in the Bible.
Guys go be yourself as the man said don’t worry about what he has worry about what you can do to help the next man and you will have what you want and that becomes a shine beacon to the next man
Great share, got what I needed from this
Love this Guy agree with ALL of it
I was going in the wrong direction. Refreshing
I vehemently disagree with a lot of stuff this guy says, but I do appreciate his back to basics approach. I think a lot of people need more help than he seems to be willing to give them, which is fine. There's a wrench for every nut in AA and there are certainly people who I can't help who this guy probably could. Interesting to listen to someone who is diametrically opposed to a lot of my experiences in sobriety, nonetheless. I guess I just had a different process introduced to me. Something that sticks out to me is that this guy probably hates the 12 and 12... I've never understood people like that. But whatever. Good talk.
Last Night I went through the steps almost exactly the way this speaker went through and takes his guys through. It's the original way people sponsored and took the steps.
Last Night, I disagree with his speech, too. He would never be able to work with me.😊♥️✌️
We thought we could find an easier, softer way......
Sure a lot of people need more help.. thats why there are therapist.
Are you still apart of the fellowship?
thank you for your uploading.
Wow the passion at the end.
tears!
That is not what he is saying, or at least I haven't heard that. Do you have a direct quote you are referring to? To my knowledge, no one wants to kick anyone out of AA... But anyways, A Higher Power of your own understanding doesn't have to be God. A great example of that is my tape of Jim B. "The Original Agnostic" one of the original members of AA.
Odomtology 12-Step Recovery Media could you post the link to that video. I can't find it. Thanks
Odomtology 12-Step Recovery Media, He said, quote, “ If you’re not willing to believe in God, Bye, bye.” That’s not cool.
@@CMoore8539 what he meant by "bye bye" is that if you're not willing to believe in a god/a high power, you will not stay sober. BECAUSE: no human power could relieve our alcoholism; but God could! And WOULD! If he were sought.
@@CMoore8539 also, it doesn't mean you are not welcome if you don't believe in The Lord God, or Jesus God, or Alah or Yaweh, or something. But if we arent WILLING to believe, then we still think we can solve our problem*. When we are the problem. You cant put out a fire with more fire.
My interpretation is that if you have any objections to hearing the word God then you haven’t had your ass whipped enough by alcohol and so you have ego to tell me oh I don’t wanna hear about God then go get whipped some more and then you’ll take any suggestions and anything someone says will not offend you. Simple. Are you done for good and for all? Then you’ll take the suggestions.
This guy sounds and reminds me of Bill Hicks. And they're both from Texas.
+JarFog according to his own story he drank and snorted coke like Bill.. lol.. I would have loved to have known Bill if he had ever gotten sober with Chris.
Strong message
I found my same source of fire and am happy as are you.
WOW!
great stufd, so glad to hear this.
Hard hitting,but accurate
Thanks for posting these!
boy I need to listen my area in W Pennsylvania is goofy. 5 years and I see some poorly run meetings and just annoying corporate raider like attitudes. messed up. the rehabbed and half way housers I'll take over just phony gurus
REALLY????????Y'all understand ME????
No we don't understand you. You are unique. There has never been anyone like you - ever. You are special.
Ppl
Huh. The intolerance of this speaker for people struggling with the Higher Power concept is arrogant.
You must simply believe in a power greater than yourself. If you are powerless over alcohol then we have already found one that is more powerful than you. Believe in a positive power and He will appear, because "God could and would IF He were sought"
Relapse will be the great persuader. If you are struggling with a higher power then you haven't conceded that you could be a real alcoholic.
@@jameslovesbutter2314, don't presume to speak for everyone's experience. You just proved the very arrogance I was railing about. It's people like you and your lack of empathy that gives this program a bad name.
Your experience is yours and it certainly doesn't mean it's the only path to recovery.
@@byssacpack 'Once more the alcoholic at certain times has no effective mental defence against the first drink.... His defence must come from a higher power.'
This is dependent or not if you actually understand and identify with what the problem of big book alcoholism is.. If you have found another way then cool however if you are suffering from a chronic relapse condition and there ain't nothing that you can do about it then maybe just maybe you may be a big book alcoholic. If that's tne case then unfortunately for you a spiritual experience is our only solution. Trust me I had to smashed to bits to except that mental solution. As soon as I did... Well it's nearly 6 years later and I am still a recovered alcoholic and still helping others realise their predicament.
If you can't do steps 2 and 3 you can't work the steps. Each step requires completion. Do you just let a sponsee spin their wheels forever on step 2 and 3?
I wish this guy could sponsor me. He keeps it simple and doesnt complicate the 12 Steps. im seeing things much clearer now. Thanks Chris.