You were taking about the packs being better in the xp path. In reality they are the same as last season, except they follow the overall curve and are 1-2 ovr higher (player pack wise). So they are “better” but just as bad as the ones from season 2, but at higher overalls that are still below the average overall of usable players at this stage of the game
Don't know if you already know this but there is a hidden set in the arena exchange for the new event tomorrow. I got a card from it for tomorrows event
I agree change the squad battle rewards back to original rewards. Suggest there be an extension of wins for additional XP collectibles 35 wins- 5 xp collectibles 40 wins- 10 xp collectibles etc 50 wins- 10k XP + 10 collectible Suggest a XP token trade in set
The funny thing is that they’re trying to force offline players to play online and if anything it’s going to have the opposite effect and drive those people away from HUT.
Dude fr. I would love to play online, but my internet doesn’t allow me to do so regularly, so all this change does is block me from a huge chunk of the weekly rewards which makes me not really want to play as much
Offline player ✋🏻, I play offline because it’s the closest thing to a hockey schematic there is. I don’t like online because it’s all about abusing game mechanics. That’s not fun. I want to play hockey. Thanks to this update, and after trying online I’m leaving hut and nhl unless this gets fixed immediately. Worst part is I was looking forward to the next events but there is no point if all the time I spend I can’t get the best rewards anymore. To EA: don’t market your game as offline friendly, and then half way through the year completely turn on that and force me online.
It’s not even good for people who play both online and offline, literally is going to take way longer to get the rewards you want. It’s like they think none of us have jobs, or lives outside of the game. Now we’re playing to get way less rewards, nice job.
not just that, I want to play other games. They're trying to force you to only play nhl because thats all you'll have time to play if you have other shit to do which most people do.
I am playing both offline and online but i play maybe 10 games a week online and win maybe 4 to 6 of them. And I was playing 10 to 20 offline games to get the objectives done so I was getting between 20 and 30 wins. Now I will have the worst rewards of both modes.
I have a job, a family, a house to take care of. Online games are long and intense. 2 a day is enough for me. Now knowing I can't get the rewards, that will be zero games a week.
Pack sales are down (rightfully so) , the suits are upset , and this is there attempt to push offline to online thinking it will get more people spending money . They actually probably sat at a table and said this was the good idea lol
When I last played, I was a div 1 player. I can still play and beat Div 1 players even after the 7 year break, but I stopped because of how toxic div 1 was, and div 2 to a lesser extent. People don't play Hockey half the time. So Squad Battles has been a nice way to balance competitive play and just unwinding after work. I would play 4 minute periods on Superstar. So yeah, this was a very disappointing change by the content team.
Ive had people message me asking why I play like a “loser” and I don’t do glitch goals or the glitch skating.. yet that’s all that player was doing every single time down the ice 😂 I won
Yea but you have to forgive them. They don't know what they are doing, and none of the people who take these brain dead decisions actually know the game we play. They play the spreadsheet and power point game. So yea, not their fault. LOL
They did do offline players dirty. Can they fix it? We can only hope, but, EA is heavily trying to push Rivals, AND, there’s no Burst anymore so you can’t even do quick games online
Let's be real, winning 14 champs games and 16 rival games means you will play 20 champs and 25-30 Rivals in average. That's minimum 45-50 online sweaty games where you can't get distracted or get disconnected. What percentage of the player base have the time and team to do that, 1%? 5%? They literally gave an insane bonus to those who really don't need it having the best god squads out there in Div1 and top Div2.
This is so stupid.I almost only play offline since i hate how people just spam the ''Perfect shot''(Not sure how it's called),ill play online once in a while when i have no objective to do but if they wanna force me to play online,ill just delete the game and be done lol
Yeah I’m done. Just EA trying to reward the players that give them money in their pockets by spending to get an OP team to play Rivals/Champs. Its a shame franchise mode is a joke too because I’d just go play that. Oh wait, Be a Pro hasn’t had updates IN YEARSSSS. Cant play that either. Another year I wasted $60 on this game sadly
Yea I’ve debated whether or not I even wanna come back to the game after my ban is lifted. I don’t know if it’s worth it… I really don’t. The change in xp is bad enough! Now they’re having us get worse rewards. I think they should’ve kept the Squad Battles xp the exact same, but boosted the online xp by like 500-1000, and left the bloody rewards ALONE, but whatever…
Also, for the people saying "play online" my internet is absolutely horrible. I live in the middle of nowhere. Every time I've tried to play online, my players freeze, they teleport.. it's unplayable. But, I'm a huge NHL & HUT fan. I clock in over 2000 hours of HUT every year just playing SB. (It's rough.) but it's been usually fine. I was enjoying myself with the way progression was evenly distributed, and I pretty much always finished the compeitive objectives for the coins and packs. This change hurts us offline players so much.
The issue was before today you got more XP playing SS SB then you did winning in Div 1 or Div 2 Rivals. That made zero sense. I think they could easily fix this by simply buffing SB reward up for playing in AS or SS difficulty to around 2500 XP which is what you get for winning in Div 3 or lower. Which is essentially the skill level required to win SS SB. IMO the objectives were fine previously. Not sure why they changed those at all.
What's so hilarious about all of this is that there was such a simple solution to making everyone happy. I have no problem with the thought process that those who grind out the misery that is online play should get the best rewards. But why should I as an offline player mainly get punished for that out of the blue halfway through the games release cycle? The easy solution was to keep the rewards the same for offline players, and simply improve and offer more to those who want to grind the online circuit. That's how you incentivize more offline players to try online, and keep everyone happy in the process.
I only play offline. Every week I finish all objectives (besides the free BND players) and I only played the two minute semi pro games. I could easily make $100k a week by playing the way I did. I finished the XP path and a few of the bonus tiers a week before the season ended. The pros of the changes for me is that I’ll now get more xp for playing 2 minute games. That’s the only damn good thing tho, and for the more grindy players who played superstar, these changes suck. I somewhat agree that online rewards should be better than offline rewards, but taking away the coins is stupid. If they want to somewhat balance it out, then give back the coins and get fucking rid of the stupid comp mini pack. Two players with one 75 ovr for winning 5 games is ridiculous, even if it is on semi pro or rookie now. Should still be 30 wins on semi pro, but instead of the mega pack at 30 wins, make it the elite pack. At least then we’ll get our coins and still get good packs, just not as good as online players. Another thing they can do is change the wildcard offline because offline is pointless in wildcard. You get like 600 points on superstar for a win, compared to the 500 you’d get for losing online. I think that’s just stupid.
I'm an offline player and the changes made me want to stop playing HUT. I normally stop around this time of year anyway and play Franchise mode but after playing a few Franchise games I just turned the game off. I think Rewards/XP earned was just the kicker to the real issue for me, the offline gameplay. I have been playing every version of the game and SuperStar just isn't fun it feels frustrating and none of the systems or features in gameplay seem to apply to the SuperStar AI ( pressure system, attributes and fatigue are the big ones). With all the frustration that comes with the cheating AI its also to easy, I still win around 10-2 every game so it's to easy. So boring because it's to easy but at the same time to frustrating = no fun for me anymore. The game just needs a refresh for me, if all the rewards and xp stuff was reverted I don't think I would come back. The gameplay is just stale for me at this point
As a person who is disabled and plays the game with one hand. No shot im winning 30 rivals games. This has been the most fun year for me in NHL because I could exclusively play SB get the same rewards the accessibility factor of hut is dead this year to the point where if it doesn't get fixed season 3 will be my last ill switch to a new game
What about if they just switch it from "win" to "play". Better rewards when you win like more xp/coins for incentive to win. You may lose every online game but you could still progress.
I agree they should atleast make the xp atleast 1500-1700 a game to make it more manageable to grind the path cuz if not. Theres gonna be a really big drop off in players after toty since EA is killing the game
Thrash, I know you've been taking a beating from people here today, just want to say first and foremost, thank you for always being willing to give a voice to the players, and highlighting when things need to be changed. As someone who personally avoids online play, today definitely felt like a slap in the face, but hopefully people can understand they shouldn't be going after creators like yourself who have been active in trying to get the best possible game for us as players. Time will tell if EA and the content team are willing to budge on this and make any changes, but I'm not going to be holding my breath. If anything, this has just further incentivized me to not drop money into the game, and to continue to move away from dedicating time into playing it, which is genuinely a shame as a hockey fan before anything else. Keep up the great work, and maybe we will see a positive decision in response from EA.
The issue with making the objectives "win 30 Rivals/HC games" is that Rivals is designed to make players go about .500 win %. So that means most people will need to play around 60 games to get 30 wins... FUN. Of course you can sprinkle sweaty HC games in there... more FUN. Good luck to anyone who has a regular job. I really don't get their thought process and they desperately need someone who's more in tune with the HUT player base.
That's what I don't understand. Who... in their team of unaware lunatics... thought that it was a good idea to force their player base to play 60 SWEATY games a week for max rewards after destroying the system in place last year for SB and Rivals that worked pretty well... This is a bonus for a tiny minority screwing the vast majority of the player base. It's not that it's not a good move, it's like if they were trying to kill the franchise to blame it on the players.
Thanks for this video Thrash. I know I was on you before but this was a good video. I think these changes were completely unnecessary, It's good to make them better but not like this, not everyone likes playing online nor should they be forced to for rewards. They took XP away and that was a real unnecessary change that nobody wanted. We need to come together as a community to force change because this stuff will keep happening otherwise EA will continue to not listen to feedback and will continue to take away from players rather then give/reward for playing. Pack prices are crazy this year it's the highest they've ever been and you just don't get your moneys worth ever. I just can't play this game unless they make a change I gotta vote with more than words here, hopefully others do the same.
This year was great for FTP players as it was easy to get enough coins through competitive rewards and packs to make MSPs each event and build a good squad. This significantly nerfs FTP rewards as 30 Rivals wins a week is an incredibly high bar to achieve, and removing coins and the top 2 packs from SB, is simply less rewards. It could be a veiled move to diminish the amount of rewards for FTP players and try to force people to buy packs. I have to think the backlash is enough here though, that they revert it to one competitive track next week. Unless pack sales improve that is.
Yesterday some people got 5 collectibles from the store for tomorrow's event. I was one of them, I just did the set you mentioned and pulled an 82 untradable transactions Wallstedt. The set is also a one and done set, green checkmark on it after it was complete.
This was a decent game until now i can't play online because the wifi is always a sable 1000-2000 ping so without superstar squad battles there is nothing to play l. There is no fun or competition in playing pro or lower difficulties, my team is aazing for free to play but without the boost of different period lengths and difficulty i cant find enjoyment or a purpose to play anymore.
I think EA has definitely ruined the game as someone who has a young family I don't have much time to play and maybe won't for the rest of the year, hopefully there's a fix but I doubt with their recent history that they will do anything to fix the game
Same here, if only they where explaining their changes, responding to someone in the community to inform us. It used to be like that, then last year the communication was better. And now it's worse than it was in the years before. I'm an hardcore NHL player. But I feel the clock is ticking. Looks like these people just want to kill the game and get fired.
Make it like it was last year. Make wildcard like hut rush and give weekly rewards for squad battles and rivals. The 6 week xp path is dumb and makes the game pointless if your done it
You are legitimately the only person that is talking about no coins for off-line everybody else they just go packs and don’t mention it. Solo players getting screwed out of 35K coins a week now and the two most valuable free packs but yeah play the way you want funny they tried to copy MLBs tag line but game is anything but. Also weekly timer on XP missions for both moments and weekly being back is taking us back to NHL 21 days and them flipping things seemingly every event needs to stop or make it clear ahead of time so we aren’t blindsided lol Thanks for looking out for the entire fan base not just online players like most TH-camrs keep up the great work! Much Love !
I think they should make it to where they get rid of the whole difficulty aspect of that and just combine them so either way you’re getting the rewards you want without having to do tedious grinding. Just a suggestion since I only am able to play a few hours a day outside of work but honestly the Seasons 3 XP Path is pretty decent.
Agree to make them the same and just increase the multiplier as incentive to play online.. you can not pause online games , they take far longer , no two minute periods .. it just requires more time .. the change is ridiculous
30 wins online/week is way too much honestly i think...its like around 20h of just rivals/champs if you win 50% of games then on top of that the 20 wins in sb and then wild cards and moments...thats like 6h/day to get everything done. How many can play 6h a day everyday? Or even if can who would everyday tbh unless its literally your job to do so😅 there wasnt anything wrong how it was b4 so why they changed that...tbh best way would be for them to put the rivals and sb rewards into one big objective and make it win 50 games a week in any mode champ/rivals/sb. That way they would keep it earn the same stuff from playing any mode
Great video. I am an offline only player. I don’t mind that the XP is lower for Squad Battles, but Superstar should have the highest rewards. The competitive packs should be the same for both paths.
Forcing us away is cheaper than a class action for them. Once pierre assigns a new head of the competition bureau ill be campaigning to my loval MP to bury this predatory game mode once and for all
I love the new season so far… except that you told me not to even try to transfer my hut points over….. finally got back up to lvl 10 now but I should have started there easily
i feel bad for offline players but realistically offline should never have been more rewarding than online play. they should just bring back the old system at this point
I know people who can win online who where not able to be in the top 100 last year in SB. Superstar is tough and 5 goals and 20 shots is a real challenge, as much as winning online in divisons outside of 1 and 2 and winning more than 10 games in HC. That's the problem here, this gift to a small portion of the player base with god squads.. is a punch in the face for the majority of people playing to get a better team to compete with these squads. Now the only real rewards you get are in the XP path and WC. The rewards you get by playing offline now isn't even fodder you can use for events sets unless you're extremely lucky. And even if you can win 10-15 online games on top of your 20 SB games, the rewards still suck because you will end up with more bad fodder with bad odds.
@ last year finishing top 100 had more to do with what team overalls you went up against so it was more random luck to hit it. also you had a redo on every game other than the the special ones worth double. i get that winning by 5 and shooting 20 times can be hard for some people but i did that for multiple weeks for every game and missed out on top 100 a couple of times just because of other guys getting higher overall teams to play against than me. regardless it still shouldn’t have been more rewarding than champs. that’s an issue
The aspect of hut is so much fun, even if it’s based around money opening packs and playing games with your custom team is fun. EA has found a way to completely ruin all of this and take the fun out of it. Playing online is miserable, every game u play your opponents score glitch goals forcing you to too and it isn’t fun anymore. The packs they did last year was SO much better than this bs they’re trying this year. Game gets worse year by year
West coast player it is hard to find games in rivals I search for about 45 to an hour then have to open the search I usually play in 70 ping . My other vent is I didnt chase Conner I did 5 icons instead and they have killed the icons they should be higher rated . What are your thoughts
Offline players complaining about having to spend time/money to get every MSP every week. Maybe the company incentivized to sell packs for players to compete online isn’t interested in giving everything away for free to never be played against another human?
Yah i honestly only play SB and a few wildcard and I hate playing that mode. I was contemplating on buying nhl 25 and now I see I made a mistake. Goodbye EA
I think they're killing any new player base. Everyone would play offline first. And the easy modes are to hard few new players. So they'll fear ever playing online. And then you add fewer offline stuff... I just don't see new players grinding to figure out the game. Look at fifa. I NEVER played before. I instantly could win offline, learn the controls, and collect competitive rewards while doing so.
Wow! 😂 i am so glad i never woke up to that! i got my 90 hedman last week and deleted the game. I feel great now. That game just made me a grumpy basterd for 2 months straight. Just tossed my 87 rated 7 active synergie team in the trash. I didnt want to because of all the work i put in to get that far but online was pointless for me. 10 years playing that game late into the night online. But this year killed it for me. Hut online was so broken for me in 25. It wouldnt matter if i had a 99 rated team. It wouldnt let me play. Everyone else was allways faster. I just gave the puck away anytime someone got near me. My goalie was full of holes while they had a barn door. Stick checking was just me passing for them. Body Checking was bumper cars. It was so bad. Defense seemed to be removed from the game. I couldnt do anything. Checked my internet cables, signal and speed, tried it wired and 5g. Set up my playstation to pure performance, turned off every feature i could. I was not allowed to compete at all. My thoughts are they have done this because there is probubally around 5000 active people playing online left. They trying to get some new meat for them to spread the total control processed cheese on. Or they are trying to kill the game because it is not the best selling sports game they make and the microtransaction money is drying up and want to hinder sb players in an attempt to get them to buy. To be honest. I see ea going the 2k route and abandoning the nhl series all together. 90% of all comments are negative and it keeps getting worse each year. Maybe nhl 26 will be advertised as an all new reworked game. It is what i think they are going to have to do to save it. Sorry for the story but they lost me as a customer until drastic changes to the way they run the company and how they make games happens. I loved that game. Played it all my life scince nhl 94. Now it is dead to me and i have never felt better. 😁
Yeah, I’m not interested in spending more time on this game at this point. I don’t mind the same XP and only having to get 20 SB wins because I can play on harder difficulties and enjoy playing the game. I’m fine with online players getting more XP. Is crazy that they don’t count Wild Card towards the online wins, which is fine because I don’t enjoy the more anyway. Having all the chores where I don’t get to use my Ultimate Team for 15 -20 games a week AND having to get 30 online wins for the good packs mashed it ready to walk away and play other games and enjoy other hobbies.
When you have one more mode that let you score one goal and let the controller down for 20 games and still get reward... nobody wins! Superstar SB is officially dead!
There is absolutely zero chance I could win 30 game of rivals in 6 days only no life try hard who plays 8 hours every day can do it its terrible for casual player
I have never played offline in HUT so I dont care about that. I have never bought a pack or anything else for money. I have a job, I have a gf and I still have a time to play and got Hedman or Eichl. And I am not much good at play, div 4 is my home for every year but in NHL25 I am in 3, but it will by fast.
I love playing rivals .did EA THE BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY invest in the servers so everyone can find game also my favorite part rivals us crashing out losing my xp starting over that's great online fun
It's more 4 to 5 wins a day on a mode that's designed for you to go 500 every week that is a solid grind that a lot of people don't have the ability/time to do
bro its not hard to play both... suck it up or dont play.... play 1 period squad battles, run up the score and afk the other 2 periods. then play rivals offline players shouldnt get crazy sheltered xp. only shit players are crying
They already killed World of Chel by listening to TH-camrs complain they can’t score on every shot and defense is too good. HUT is all the what EA survives on. Thanks TH-camrs for ruining online play for your precious HUT.
Completely dead. I will be officially stopping playing. They need to stop this XP path bullshit. They need to stop pushing pay to win. I think the community needs to go on strike to be honest.
Who really cares about offline. It is so boring. Play online it’s 2025 not 2005. I think “offline” players should be able to get the packs. But I don’t get it I really don’t. The thrill is playing against another human. That is the competitive aspect….
THANKS FOR WATCHING😅
Whatcha think?
You were taking about the packs being better in the xp path. In reality they are the same as last season, except they follow the overall curve and are 1-2 ovr higher (player pack wise). So they are “better” but just as bad as the ones from season 2, but at higher overalls that are still below the average overall of usable players at this stage of the game
Don't know if you already know this but there is a hidden set in the arena exchange for the new event tomorrow. I got a card from it for tomorrows event
I agree change the squad battle rewards back to original rewards.
Suggest there be an extension of wins for additional XP collectibles
35 wins- 5 xp collectibles
40 wins- 10 xp collectibles etc
50 wins- 10k XP + 10 collectible
Suggest a XP token trade in set
Basically I'm screwed playing in Australia with a small player base, I won't be able to even find enough games to get the good rewards 😢
The funny thing is that they’re trying to force offline players to play online and if anything it’s going to have the opposite effect and drive those people away from HUT.
Dude fr. I would love to play online, but my internet doesn’t allow me to do so regularly, so all this change does is block me from a huge chunk of the weekly rewards which makes me not really want to play as much
Online isn't even fun bro I can play nba and fifa online and it way better and more fun
I'm not very good at the game and I play to relax. Online is not ideal for that. I don't see me playing as much now or getting the game next year
Offline player ✋🏻, I play offline because it’s the closest thing to a hockey schematic there is. I don’t like online because it’s all about abusing game mechanics. That’s not fun. I want to play hockey. Thanks to this update, and after trying online I’m leaving hut and nhl unless this gets fixed immediately. Worst part is I was looking forward to the next events but there is no point if all the time I spend I can’t get the best rewards anymore.
To EA: don’t market your game as offline friendly, and then half way through the year completely turn on that and force me online.
It’s not even good for people who play both online and offline, literally is going to take way longer to get the rewards you want. It’s like they think none of us have jobs, or lives outside of the game. Now we’re playing to get way less rewards, nice job.
not just that, I want to play other games. They're trying to force you to only play nhl because thats all you'll have time to play if you have other shit to do which most people do.
I am playing both offline and online but i play maybe 10 games a week online and win maybe 4 to 6 of them. And I was playing 10 to 20 offline games to get the objectives done so I was getting between 20 and 30 wins. Now I will have the worst rewards of both modes.
@@Martyspwhy dont you play a bit more? 10 games is almost nothing
I have a job, a family, a house to take care of. Online games are long and intense. 2 a day is enough for me. Now knowing I can't get the rewards, that will be zero games a week.
@@Martysp allright. You do you man! I have that NPC citizen pack too, but I have more time to play than 2 games a day.
Pack sales are down (rightfully so) , the suits are upset , and this is there attempt to push offline to online thinking it will get more people spending money . They actually probably sat at a table and said this was the good idea lol
When I last played, I was a div 1 player.
I can still play and beat Div 1 players even after the 7 year break, but I stopped because of how toxic div 1 was, and div 2 to a lesser extent. People don't play Hockey half the time.
So Squad Battles has been a nice way to balance competitive play and just unwinding after work. I would play 4 minute periods on Superstar.
So yeah, this was a very disappointing change by the content team.
Ive had people message me asking why I play like a “loser” and I don’t do glitch goals or the glitch skating.. yet that’s all that player was doing every single time down the ice 😂 I won
If they don't fix it I will be deleting this game and never buying another hockey game even though I love playing hockey and that's all I play
60 rivals or champs games per week is insane
Yea but you have to forgive them. They don't know what they are doing, and none of the people who take these brain dead decisions actually know the game we play. They play the spreadsheet and power point game. So yea, not their fault. LOL
MLB in March simple , these EA guys have no clue what they are doing this year
SDS ain’t much better 😂
They did do offline players dirty. Can they fix it? We can only hope, but, EA is heavily trying to push Rivals, AND, there’s no Burst anymore so you can’t even do quick games online
I’m like a 12-14 champs wins player so I consider myself decent at the game but WHO TF HAS TIME TO WIN 30 RIVALS/CHAMPS GAMES
ME
Let's be real, winning 14 champs games and 16 rival games means you will play 20 champs and 25-30 Rivals in average. That's minimum 45-50 online sweaty games where you can't get distracted or get disconnected.
What percentage of the player base have the time and team to do that, 1%? 5%?
They literally gave an insane bonus to those who really don't need it having the best god squads out there in Div1 and top Div2.
@@martmet8688 yeah agree
This is so stupid.I almost only play offline since i hate how people just spam the ''Perfect shot''(Not sure how it's called),ill play online once in a while when i have no objective to do but if they wanna force me to play online,ill just delete the game and be done lol
Yeah I’m done. Just EA trying to reward the players that give them money in their pockets by spending to get an OP team to play Rivals/Champs. Its a shame franchise mode is a joke too because I’d just go play that. Oh wait, Be a Pro hasn’t had updates IN YEARSSSS. Cant play that either. Another year I wasted $60 on this game sadly
Yea I’ve debated whether or not I even wanna come back to the game after my ban is lifted. I don’t know if it’s worth it… I really don’t. The change in xp is bad enough! Now they’re having us get worse rewards. I think they should’ve kept the Squad Battles xp the exact same, but boosted the online xp by like 500-1000, and left the bloody rewards ALONE, but whatever…
Wow EA is killing the game
They usually do around this time of year!
Also, for the people saying "play online" my internet is absolutely horrible. I live in the middle of nowhere. Every time I've tried to play online, my players freeze, they teleport.. it's unplayable. But, I'm a huge NHL & HUT fan. I clock in over 2000 hours of HUT every year just playing SB. (It's rough.) but it's been usually fine. I was enjoying myself with the way progression was evenly distributed, and I pretty much always finished the compeitive objectives for the coins and packs. This change hurts us offline players so much.
Definitely sympathetic to your situation, but the “bad internet”reason is probably sub 5% of HUT players. Unfortunately EA can’t cater to that crowd
The issue was before today you got more XP playing SS SB then you did winning in Div 1 or Div 2 Rivals. That made zero sense. I think they could easily fix this by simply buffing SB reward up for playing in AS or SS difficulty to around 2500 XP which is what you get for winning in Div 3 or lower. Which is essentially the skill level required to win SS SB. IMO the objectives were fine previously. Not sure why they changed those at all.
What's so hilarious about all of this is that there was such a simple solution to making everyone happy. I have no problem with the thought process that those who grind out the misery that is online play should get the best rewards. But why should I as an offline player mainly get punished for that out of the blue halfway through the games release cycle? The easy solution was to keep the rewards the same for offline players, and simply improve and offer more to those who want to grind the online circuit. That's how you incentivize more offline players to try online, and keep everyone happy in the process.
Worst dev team games ever had by far this shit is ridiculous picking on the damn sb players 😂😂 unbelievable
I only play offline. Every week I finish all objectives (besides the free BND players) and I only played the two minute semi pro games. I could easily make $100k a week by playing the way I did. I finished the XP path and a few of the bonus tiers a week before the season ended. The pros of the changes for me is that I’ll now get more xp for playing 2 minute games. That’s the only damn good thing tho, and for the more grindy players who played superstar, these changes suck. I somewhat agree that online rewards should be better than offline rewards, but taking away the coins is stupid. If they want to somewhat balance it out, then give back the coins and get fucking rid of the stupid comp mini pack. Two players with one 75 ovr for winning 5 games is ridiculous, even if it is on semi pro or rookie now. Should still be 30 wins on semi pro, but instead of the mega pack at 30 wins, make it the elite pack. At least then we’ll get our coins and still get good packs, just not as good as online players. Another thing they can do is change the wildcard offline because offline is pointless in wildcard. You get like 600 points on superstar for a win, compared to the 500 you’d get for losing online. I think that’s just stupid.
I'm an offline player and the changes made me want to stop playing HUT.
I normally stop around this time of year anyway and play Franchise mode but after playing a few Franchise games I just turned the game off. I think Rewards/XP earned was just the kicker to the real issue for me, the offline gameplay. I have been playing every version of the game and SuperStar just isn't fun it feels frustrating and none of the systems or features in gameplay seem to apply to the SuperStar AI ( pressure system, attributes and fatigue are the big ones). With all the frustration that comes with the cheating AI its also to easy, I still win around 10-2 every game so it's to easy. So boring because it's to easy but at the same time to frustrating = no fun for me anymore.
The game just needs a refresh for me, if all the rewards and xp stuff was reverted I don't think I would come back. The gameplay is just stale for me at this point
As a person who is disabled and plays the game with one hand. No shot im winning 30 rivals games. This has been the most fun year for me in NHL because I could exclusively play SB get the same rewards the accessibility factor of hut is dead this year to the point where if it doesn't get fixed season 3 will be my last ill switch to a new game
EA content team needs to be fired
What about if they just switch it from "win" to "play". Better rewards when you win like more xp/coins for incentive to win. You may lose every online game but you could still progress.
The weekly objectives having a time limit on them is absolutely trash! EA really screwed the pooch on this one very disappointed
I agree they should atleast make the xp atleast 1500-1700 a game to make it more manageable to grind the path cuz if not. Theres gonna be a really big drop off in players after toty since EA is killing the game
Anyone else having it so that wins in rivals isn’t counting for Xp, milestones or champs points?
Thrash, I know you've been taking a beating from people here today, just want to say first and foremost, thank you for always being willing to give a voice to the players, and highlighting when things need to be changed. As someone who personally avoids online play, today definitely felt like a slap in the face, but hopefully people can understand they shouldn't be going after creators like yourself who have been active in trying to get the best possible game for us as players. Time will tell if EA and the content team are willing to budge on this and make any changes, but I'm not going to be holding my breath. If anything, this has just further incentivized me to not drop money into the game, and to continue to move away from dedicating time into playing it, which is genuinely a shame as a hockey fan before anything else. Keep up the great work, and maybe we will see a positive decision in response from EA.
They are really messing up this year
The issue with making the objectives "win 30 Rivals/HC games" is that Rivals is designed to make players go about .500 win %. So that means most people will need to play around 60 games to get 30 wins... FUN. Of course you can sprinkle sweaty HC games in there... more FUN. Good luck to anyone who has a regular job. I really don't get their thought process and they desperately need someone who's more in tune with the HUT player base.
That's what I don't understand. Who... in their team of unaware lunatics... thought that it was a good idea to force their player base to play 60 SWEATY games a week for max rewards after destroying the system in place last year for SB and Rivals that worked pretty well...
This is a bonus for a tiny minority screwing the vast majority of the player base.
It's not that it's not a good move, it's like if they were trying to kill the franchise to blame it on the players.
EA is seems to hate offline players, i dont know why🤔
Offline players have no incentive to buy packs or improve their team if you never have to challenge yourself.
Absolute garbage! Enough with the changes. Nice job EA, hope the player base responds by not spending a dollar on packs!
Thanks for this video Thrash. I know I was on you before but this was a good video. I think these changes were completely unnecessary, It's good to make them better but not like this, not everyone likes playing online nor should they be forced to for rewards. They took XP away and that was a real unnecessary change that nobody wanted. We need to come together as a community to force change because this stuff will keep happening otherwise EA will continue to not listen to feedback and will continue to take away from players rather then give/reward for playing. Pack prices are crazy this year it's the highest they've ever been and you just don't get your moneys worth ever. I just can't play this game unless they make a change I gotta vote with more than words here, hopefully others do the same.
This year was great for FTP players as it was easy to get enough coins through competitive rewards and packs to make MSPs each event and build a good squad. This significantly nerfs FTP rewards as 30 Rivals wins a week is an incredibly high bar to achieve, and removing coins and the top 2 packs from SB, is simply less rewards. It could be a veiled move to diminish the amount of rewards for FTP players and try to force people to buy packs. I have to think the backlash is enough here though, that they revert it to one competitive track next week. Unless pack sales improve that is.
Does anybody know about what the SBD DEBUG EVENT is. It’s in the gallery of greats collectibles sets.
Yesterday some people got 5 collectibles from the store for tomorrow's event. I was one of them, I just did the set you mentioned and pulled an 82 untradable transactions Wallstedt. The set is also a one and done set, green checkmark on it after it was complete.
I got a base 81 card
Yeah i play on the otherside of the world. 200 ping for online so its not even viable. Classic EA fixing things that arent broken.
Yep same here that's why normally play squad battles and having a timer on the XP objectives doesn't help either
This was a decent game until now i can't play online because the wifi is always a sable 1000-2000 ping so without superstar squad battles there is nothing to play l. There is no fun or competition in playing pro or lower difficulties, my team is aazing for free to play but without the boost of different period lengths and difficulty i cant find enjoyment or a purpose to play anymore.
Might have to start grinding fortnite
I think EA has definitely ruined the game as someone who has a young family I don't have much time to play and maybe won't for the rest of the year, hopefully there's a fix but I doubt with their recent history that they will do anything to fix the game
Same here, if only they where explaining their changes, responding to someone in the community to inform us. It used to be like that, then last year the communication was better. And now it's worse than it was in the years before. I'm an hardcore NHL player. But I feel the clock is ticking. Looks like these people just want to kill the game and get fired.
I thought BND cards were as bad as it was gonna get and now EA drops this. I have a feeling this is gonna be the last year I buy this shit game
When I win in rivals they didn’t give me my XP and my champs points and my objective are also not count and I don’t no why
It’s now become a second job and not fun anymore
Hut is getting broken. After xp season 1 and 2 i dont even care anymore for xp season 3.
Make it like it was last year. Make wildcard like hut rush and give weekly rewards for squad battles and rivals. The 6 week xp path is dumb and makes the game pointless if your done it
☝️I guit two weaks after the game was realeased. New rewarding system sucks
You are legitimately the only person that is talking about no coins for off-line everybody else they just go packs and don’t mention it. Solo players getting screwed out of 35K coins a week now and the two most valuable free packs but yeah play the way you want funny they tried to copy MLBs tag line but game is anything but. Also weekly timer on XP missions for both moments and weekly being back is taking us back to NHL 21 days and them flipping things seemingly every event needs to stop or make it clear ahead of time so we aren’t blindsided lol Thanks for looking out for the entire fan base not just online players like most TH-camrs keep up the great work! Much Love !
I think they should make it to where they get rid of the whole difficulty aspect of that and just combine them so either way you’re getting the rewards you want without having to do tedious grinding. Just a suggestion since I only am able to play a few hours a day outside of work but honestly the Seasons 3 XP Path is pretty decent.
Agree to make them the same and just increase the multiplier as incentive to play online.. you can not pause online games , they take far longer , no two minute periods .. it just requires more time .. the change is ridiculous
In tradeable set , under trade building , you can find another 2000 with 1 76+, 3 78+ and 5 80+ for a hiden price !
I got Pierre Turgeon 84 2000 card for the St-Louis Blues 😃
30 wins online/week is way too much honestly i think...its like around 20h of just rivals/champs if you win 50% of games then on top of that the 20 wins in sb and then wild cards and moments...thats like 6h/day to get everything done. How many can play 6h a day everyday? Or even if can who would everyday tbh unless its literally your job to do so😅 there wasnt anything wrong how it was b4 so why they changed that...tbh best way would be for them to put the rivals and sb rewards into one big objective and make it win 50 games a week in any mode champ/rivals/sb. That way they would keep it earn the same stuff from playing any mode
Great video. I am an offline only player. I don’t mind that the XP is lower for Squad Battles, but Superstar should have the highest rewards. The competitive packs should be the same for both paths.
Hope they fix it for the offline players
Forcing us away is cheaper than a class action for them.
Once pierre assigns a new head of the competition bureau ill be campaigning to my loval MP to bury this predatory game mode once and for all
They need to fix the xp objective timer to match the whole XP path
I love the new season so far… except that you told me not to even try to transfer my hut points over….. finally got back up to lvl 10 now but I should have started there easily
EA casually making their game worse and worse every year. I hate this company.
So EA killed 2K and other hockey games scared of competition and they are killing their own game lol 😆
i feel bad for offline players but realistically offline should never have been more rewarding than online play. they should just bring back the old system at this point
I know people who can win online who where not able to be in the top 100 last year in SB. Superstar is tough and 5 goals and 20 shots is a real challenge, as much as winning online in divisons outside of 1 and 2 and winning more than 10 games in HC.
That's the problem here, this gift to a small portion of the player base with god squads.. is a punch in the face for the majority of people playing to get a better team to compete with these squads.
Now the only real rewards you get are in the XP path and WC. The rewards you get by playing offline now isn't even fodder you can use for events sets unless you're extremely lucky. And even if you can win 10-15 online games on top of your 20 SB games, the rewards still suck because you will end up with more bad fodder with bad odds.
@ last year finishing top 100 had more to do with what team overalls you went up against so it was more random luck to hit it. also you had a redo on every game other than the the special ones worth double. i get that winning by 5 and shooting 20 times can be hard for some people but i did that for multiple weeks for every game and missed out on top 100 a couple of times just because of other guys getting higher overall teams to play against than me. regardless it still shouldn’t have been more rewarding than champs. that’s an issue
The aspect of hut is so much fun, even if it’s based around money opening packs and playing games with your custom team is fun. EA has found a way to completely ruin all of this and take the fun out of it. Playing online is miserable, every game u play your opponents score glitch goals forcing you to too and it isn’t fun anymore. The packs they did last year was SO much better than this bs they’re trying this year. Game gets worse year by year
Appreciate you acknowledging this in this video.
EA is punishing me as a casual / offline player for not having time to play enough and be able to play against good players online.
"even on my onlyfans" gotta be quote of the year
West coast player it is hard to find games in rivals I search for about 45 to an hour then have to open the search I usually play in 70 ping . My other vent is I didnt chase Conner I did 5 icons instead and they have killed the icons they should be higher rated . What are your thoughts
Offline players complaining about having to spend time/money to get every MSP every week. Maybe the company incentivized to sell packs for players to compete online isn’t interested in giving everything away for free to never be played against another human?
yes they did
Think it should be cut to 15 wins or 20 since extra packs
EA WHERE SPOERTS GAMES GO TO DIE STORE WORKS
Yah i honestly only play SB and a few wildcard and I hate playing that mode. I was contemplating on buying nhl 25 and now I see I made a mistake. Goodbye EA
So I tried rivals. I was down 6 goals in the first period. His team was 85 overall. This sucks.
I think they're killing any new player base. Everyone would play offline first. And the easy modes are to hard few new players. So they'll fear ever playing online. And then you add fewer offline stuff...
I just don't see new players grinding to figure out the game.
Look at fifa. I NEVER played before. I instantly could win offline, learn the controls, and collect competitive rewards while doing so.
I did a 200 event set and got a card already was that normal?
Hopefully it gets fixed . Unsure how they thought this was a good idea .
That’s crazy thanks for the information bro dang ea stop with this
Wow! 😂 i am so glad i never woke up to that! i got my 90 hedman last week and deleted the game. I feel great now. That game just made me a grumpy basterd for 2 months straight. Just tossed my 87 rated 7 active synergie team in the trash. I didnt want to because of all the work i put in to get that far but online was pointless for me. 10 years playing that game late into the night online. But this year killed it for me.
Hut online was so broken for me in 25. It wouldnt matter if i had a 99 rated team. It wouldnt let me play. Everyone else was allways faster. I just gave the puck away anytime someone got near me. My goalie was full of holes while they had a barn door. Stick checking was just me passing for them. Body Checking was bumper cars. It was so bad. Defense seemed to be removed from the game. I couldnt do anything. Checked my internet cables, signal and speed, tried it wired and 5g. Set up my playstation to pure performance, turned off every feature i could. I was not allowed to compete at all.
My thoughts are they have done this because there is probubally around 5000 active people playing online left. They trying to get some new meat for them to spread the total control processed cheese on.
Or they are trying to kill the game because it is not the best selling sports game they make and the microtransaction money is drying up and want to hinder sb players in an attempt to get them to buy.
To be honest. I see ea going the 2k route and abandoning the nhl series all together. 90% of all comments are negative and it keeps getting worse each year.
Maybe nhl 26 will be advertised as an all new reworked game. It is what i think they are going to have to do to save it.
Sorry for the story but they lost me as a customer until drastic changes to the way they run the company and how they make games happens. I loved that game. Played it all my life scince nhl 94. Now it is dead to me and i have never felt better. 😁
Bro the OF had me dying
Yeah, I’m not interested in spending more time on this game at this point. I don’t mind the same XP and only having to get 20 SB wins because I can play on harder difficulties and enjoy playing the game. I’m fine with online players getting more XP. Is crazy that they don’t count Wild Card towards the online wins, which is fine because I don’t enjoy the more anyway. Having all the chores where I don’t get to use my Ultimate Team for 15 -20 games a week AND having to get 30 online wins for the good packs mashed it ready to walk away and play other games and enjoy other hobbies.
I'm glad I didn't waste my money on a ps5 to get this game shit
I think it’s for those who don’t play on semi-pro and higher.
When you have one more mode that let you score one goal and let the controller down for 20 games and still get reward... nobody wins! Superstar SB is officially dead!
How on earth can i win 30 game online . I think its gonna be hard to get D L from my favorit team
Is this HUT Beta we testing for them?
Cant be happy with anything bruh who tf even plays only offline no fun at all
good thing I stopped 2 weeks ago.
There is absolutely zero chance I could win 30 game of rivals in 6 days only no life try hard who plays 8 hours every day can do it its terrible for casual player
They need to split offline and online
I have never played offline in HUT so I dont care about that. I have never bought a pack or anything else for money. I have a job, I have a gf and I still have a time to play and got Hedman or Eichl. And I am not much good at play, div 4 is my home for every year but in NHL25 I am in 3, but it will by fast.
I only play offline and only squad battles and rookie I can't play rivals i don't like wildcard
If you play SB on semipro you get same xp as before but now you only need to play 3 minute period. But if you play SB above semipro you got screwed
I love playing rivals .did EA THE BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY invest in the servers so everyone can find game also my favorite part rivals us crashing out losing my xp starting over that's great online fun
30 wins a week isnt that crazy, 3 wins a day and change plus if u go on a streak that will help big time
It's more 4 to 5 wins a day on a mode that's designed for you to go 500 every week that is a solid grind that a lot of people don't have the ability/time to do
I score one goal and do other stuff ....im streaming this on twitch ..how to beat season 3 loôll
For Xbox you need a Xbox subscription for online thats for REAL MONEY!. That is not fair for Xbox players and me even to. EA WHY? 😅
bro its not hard to play both... suck it up or dont play.... play 1 period squad battles, run up the score and afk the other 2 periods. then play rivals
offline players shouldnt get crazy sheltered xp. only shit players are crying
I hate nhl online i dont find it fun compared to fifa and nba those games are actully fun
They already killed World of Chel by listening to TH-camrs complain they can’t score on every shot and defense is too good. HUT is all the what EA survives on. Thanks TH-camrs for ruining online play for your precious HUT.
Why make the game worse ?
I search nhl25 and nhl 25 everyday ,I found more nhl videos !
Completely dead. I will be officially stopping playing. They need to stop this XP path bullshit. They need to stop pushing pay to win. I think the community needs to go on strike to be honest.
NHL 18 killed the game
Who really cares about offline. It is so boring. Play online it’s 2025 not 2005. I think “offline” players should be able to get the packs. But I don’t get it I really don’t. The thrill is playing against another human. That is the competitive aspect….
The game is dead
Fr it is dead
who tf plays only SB?😅
Losers