Where Are The Rest of these Archetypes Cards? Yu-Gi-Oh! Discussion vid
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- As the title states where are the rest of the cards for the archetypes I will be discussing in this video.
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Where's my Ancient Fairy Dragon upgrade. She's been unbanned since 2023 and I'm curious what Konami could do with a retrain of Luna's monsters to support her.
Likely dead forever because she did not have a fuction deck or stratergy
@@mrbubbles6468it baffles me that she was not given Naturia
3:15 Just a small correction, the last time Judai used Metamorphosis was in episode 116 which aired near the end of 2006, while Metamorphosis was not banned until 2007. The anime did adhere to the banlist pretty well.
As for the V cards, I imagine Yuma removed them from his deck after figuring out his friend that gave it to him was actually the evil Vector, hence why never saw them being used for the rest of the series after the two of them dueled at Sargasso. The only duels he had after the defeat of Don Thousand were against Nasch, which was literally immediately after, and against Astral, where he didn't have any Numbers to use the V cards with.
Those NEX evolutions and their respective Neos evolutions can have some interesting effects. Twinkle Neos could have a draw effect where if you draw a monster, it destroys a monster on the field, spell would allow it to attack directly, and trap would switch a monster’s position. Mole’s evolution could return two monsters by targeting them while its Neos evolution would bounce two cards, monster or spell/trap. Scarab could gain 500 atk for each monster on the opponent’s field while the Neos gains 500 atk for every monster on the field. Hummingbird gives 500 LP for every card in both hands, while Neos would gain atk equal to the difference between both players’ LP, no matter who’s higher. Panther can copy and negate a monster’s effects while Neos would have a quick effecf that negates any face up card on the field while copying its effect, which would include spell or trap effects.
@VentusAce one of the obvious candidates for this is Arcana Force, which are based on Tarot Arcana, of which there's 22 and we didn't even see all of them in the anime. There's also Blair Flannigan's "Mystic" cards, as one of her Spell Cards hints at the existence of others (though none of her cards as a whole have been printed yet). we're also missing the Level 6 "Fossil Dragon" Fusion monster for Jim Crocodile Cook, as both "Fossil Warrior" and "Fossil Machine" have Level 4, 6, and 8 Fusions, but "Fossil Dragon" only has 4 and 8. Syrus should have a monster called "Taxiroid" that was never used in the anime but appears in the artwork of Supercharge. Bastion was shown with a Fire Dragon in the GX opening theme, but never used it. There should be a Timeaus fusion monster that requires an Insect monster (as Yugi almost summoned it in the anime). There should be a 4th The Winged Dragon of Ra card/form that has it fused with the duelist (the art would likely have it fused with Yami Marik) since each of Ra's other forms got its own card. Number 54: Lion Heart should have a Chaos Number form since, in the anime when Nistro was controlled by Alito, Nistro drew Barian's Force and Alito wanted him to rank up Lion Heart. A rank 11 Xyz called Number 1000: Numerronia should exist because Rank 12 and Rank 13 1000 monsters Don Thousand used were both Chaos Numbers.
Technically all numbers should have chaos rank ups, not just lion heart. It's just that lion heart was blue balled specifically
@@jaernihiltheus7817in Yugioh Zexal lore Chaos monsters appear firstly in the moment you activate the card then it stays in the extra
Shinobird & Starry Knight are based on special days on the calender. I think it will be more fun if Konami slowly give support for them in that specific day. I wanna see a new Starry Knight support every Christmas or new Shinobird/Spirit every Tanabata celebration.
id pay MONEY to get the V cards those bastard barian cards were SOOOO COOOOL hell even the same thing with the Dark Zexal Weapons and Shining Zexal Weapons
We also need a Neos Contact Fusion Monsters to those 4 NEX upgrade
8:16 _Could_ we even see a DARK one, within the context of the anime? Ai was never absorbed into Bohman, so something wacky would have to be going on for _that_ to work.
I have a few that are related to Rush's Animes:
- High Tech Dragon is missing an upgraded version of Blue Tooth to be on equal footing with Red Boot. Red Boot had two upgrades: a Natural one and a Darkness one. Blue Tooth only has one Natural upgrade. While there is no equivalent to a Darkness version similar to Red Boot, it's weird to think that Blue Tooth (the main Ace Monster) only has one upgrade that isn't combined with Jointech.
- Gakuto's Deck (Three Rulers) is missing a Semeluna and a Winged Beast related to Unequaled (like Icezark and Karchizark). For the latter, it's possible that it's a LIGHT Winged Beast Monster.
- I feel like there should be an equivalent of Sevens Wonder Fusion, but for Sevens Road Witch. This is made evident when Sevens Road Witch got her own Fusion Monsters that differentiate her from Sevens Road Magician and friends. While we're on the subject of Sevens Road Magician, I mention that at some point (in the Anime or otherwise), there should be a Fusion Monster between Galactica Oblivion and Sevens Road Magician.
- Considering that The☆Dragias and Prima Guitarna exist (two Normal Monsters related to SEVENS's Main Cast Ace Monsters)..... Shouldn't there be a Normal Monster that is a predecessor of Yamiruler the Dark Delayer?
- Music Princess seems to be missing some WIND Beasts due to the existence of Trumpetiger the Music Fiend, the other Deck Monsters are WIND Warrior. At the same time, it's strange that Ophiclaymore the Music Princess hasn't had any relevance as Fusion Material despite being described as the oldest of the band.
- Maybe it's just me, but I feel like Abysskite is missing a Maximum Monster that is centered around the mermaid trio: Karen, Ange and Liem. Also, I feel like it's missing cards (Spell or Trap Cards) that should better connect the relationship between Okeabyss and the mermaid trio (other than what is seen in the Anime)
- Praime Deck is the biggest offender of knowing that it's missing cards that the Deck should have: many Spell/Trap Cards have Praime Monsters that don't exist, Darkness Samsara doesn't have a Praime version (when it should have one) and, following Anime logic, there are many Ace Monsters that should have their Praime version.
Technically speaking, just like how Red-Eyes and Red Boot have a Darkness upgrade, Blue-Eyes has a Shining upgrade, which theoretically means Blue Tooth should have a Shining evolution if it ever gets one.
There was a fire dragon for Misawa in GX opening (probably just opening 1). We also probably should get triple contact fusions for other combinations of Neo spacians. We have glow moss and dark panter, dark panther and mole (not from the anime), mole and flare scarab, and humming bird with aqua dolphin. You’d think most if not all these can combine with neos together (notable ones could be sacrab and dolphin or mole and dolphin).
Loved this vidoe concept!
While this has not been printed before, can we please get Luna's 'The Forest' archetype in the manga? I swear she is the only post DM character where the monsters have little to no synergy in the anime
There’s also Rio, who didn’t have a specific archetype either.
@@BushidoRoad I’m so use to Duel Links and completely forgot that without the skill, her deck is hot garbage
@@idkwut2callmyself561 Eh, I wouldn’t go that far. It’s not that bad, but could definitely use an upgrade or two.
One archetype that seems in complete are the Cyber Angels. They’re based off the seven Hindu gods, but for a long time only three were shown until Arc-V, where two more were released, followed by a sixth later on, but even after all this time, we still don’t have a seventh one out.
Now that I think about it, along with Lion Heart, we don’t have a CNumber upgrade for the other four Mythirian Numbers, since Nash and Vector’s respective Numbers have one.
2:15 Shin Yoshida takes over a series's composition, and character and thematic cohesion suddenly goes way down? I've never heard of such a thing
Virtual World and Dark Organization Doma arcs of DM are 1000% better than Duellist Kingdom and Battle City, especially for every character not named Yugi, Jonouchi, or Kaiba.
Season 4 of GX made Asuka into an actual character and gave Sho the ability to show up his brother which was foreshadowed in season 2 but was almost denied by season 3 killing Kaiser, not to mention it gave us O'Brien vs Trueman and Yusuke with his Clear World archetype.
In 5Ds, Zexal, and Vrains he was around from the start, and he never appeared on production of Arc-V or any Rush anime, so what are you talking about?
If it's 5Ds, despite the fact he was always there on the staff, then Arc Cradle is the best arc of the series, not the Dark Signers. Godwin is a pretty bad final boss, while Z-one is the best final boss of the franchise because the battle plays out almost exactly like Sonic Adventure 2 but better.
@@genyakozlov1316I disagree with you about the Arc Cradle arc and Z-One. The Arc Cradle arc suffers from uneven pacing and a lack of cohesive narrative flow. The story feels rushed at times and drawn out at others, making it difficult for viewers to remain engaged. While Z-One has an intriguing backstory, his motivations and actions lack the emotional depth and personal connection that make a villain truly compelling. His impact on the protagonists feels less personal and immediate compared to earlier antagonists, resulting in a less intense and memorable conflict. The Dark Signer arc features a rich and emotionally charged storyline, with each character facing personal demons and moral dilemmas. Protagonists like Yusei, Aki, and Jack undergo significant growth, with their backstories and relationships adding depth to the overall narrative. And I also disagree with you about the Godwin brothers too! Rex and Roman Godwin are multifaceted villains with personal stakes in the story, making their actions and motivations more compelling. Their connection to the main characters, especially Yusei, creates a more intense and emotionally resonant conflict. While the Arc Cradle arc has its merits, including an ambitious storyline and high-stakes duels, it falls short in terms of character development and emotional engagement. The Dark Signer arc, on the other hand, provides a richer and more emotionally charged narrative, with better-developed antagonists and more impactful character arcs. The Godwin brothers, as well-written antagonists, contribute significantly to making the Dark Signer arc a standout in the series. While I respect your opinions I heavily disagree.
@@genyakozlov1316 Rare Shin Yoshida defender. Nice
Other cards missing:
Blair used a deck called "Mystic" however the only monster used was Mystic Dragon however in one of Blair's cards we can see that it also lists "Mystic Fairy" and "Mystic Knight" which those cards never appeared or were activated and never were shown
Chazz Ojamachines
In the duel against Benji Chazz summoned "King Ojamachine" which it's effect allowed him to summon Ojamachine Yellow which said card also mentioned Ojamachine Green and Black which were never summoned
Topologina Nabee
This card is the most mysterious card in Yugioh period, we don't know it's effects but we know that had Pandor activated it's effect in Ai"s own words she would have won and now, we have absolutely no idea why or how she could have won
Corrupted Neos
This goes as an honorable mention since it is most likely an alternative art version of Neos but it would be interesting to see
Super God Fusion
This card would be used by Yubel to win the duel however Jaden stopped her from summoning said monster and we don't know this monster effect or anything but if i had to guess it would be something along the lines of "You win the duel"
Banner's mysterious card
This is an honorable mention because Banner used this card to defeat both Chazz and Alexis and we don't know it's effect or what it does
You bring up tons of good ones like the Mystic and Ojamachine cards. You definitely understood the assignment of the point of the video. The only ones I would probably opt out is corrupt Neos and Banners mysterious monster since the silhouette of the monsters since the one that beat Chazz was Golden Homunculus and the ones that beat Alexis were the silhouette of the Salamandra and Ourboros alchemy beast.
@@ventusace9054 Fair and enough and thanks
@@Eric6761 Super God Fusion is a title, not a monster's name. SGF is actually the Yubel fusion monster, since you can fusion summon it with 12 materials, every 500 damage could represent one dimension being destroyed and it is Yubel's over final form
@@AliacadosDuelistas my bad and thanks for the correction
For Nabee. We don't know if it even is a real card. Ai says "although I don't know if it even exists" at least in the Sub.
with the nex cards we need a "this card does not count towards the number of cards in your extra deck" otherwise we will have a small amount of space for each card.
i would also love to see along with the metamorphosis heroes. a fusion between these advance versions like neo bubble and clay guard becoming something like e-hero great-wall with smth like 5k DF
This video would’ve won had it mentioned Topologina Nabee…
FIRE (or FLAME) DRAGON from GX’s Anime Opening.
Specifically Bastion’s Cards! What is the point of him having SIX decks, if we never got to see ANYTHING BEYOND the Three Decks he played!
His Chemical or H2O Deck with Water Dragon.
His Magnet Warrior Deck with Plus and Minus!
And then there was the Deck he used against Jaden Yumi, with Litmous Doom Swordsmen!
Other than his Yokai Zombie Deck in the Manga. There is no Fire/Flame Dragon Deck!
Hell, Konami has not even ATTEMPTED to make that Monster! The only card that Comes Close is Burning Dragon! Which is More of Dragon Typing than being a PYRO monster! Not to mention it has a Completely different Look!
I have some things that could help for the next video:
. In the Arc-V manga, only Yuya and Yuri evolved their Dragons because the Adam Factor/the power from G.O.D. between the brothers were limited to their existence (except for Yuya). So, we never saw Clear Wing Fast and Dark Anthelion getting an evolution;
. Konami started two new forms for Odd-Eyes Rebellion (Overlord and Odd-Eyes Rebellion XYZ Dragon) but, until now, we never got the same treatment for Odd-Eyes Wing and Odd-Eyes Venom. Furthermore, we are missing an "Odd-Eyes dominance form" for the same hybrids, since we only got to see Odd-Eyes Raging in the anime/card game and not this kind of form of the other two hybrids (also, Konami started the "Z-ARC Universe" set and I doubt that they will continue after the Sycnhro...);
. Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon is the only card that just got a real properly evolution after the end of the show (Odd-Eyes Pendulumgraph Dragon and Odd-Eyes Arc Pendulum Dragon)
. We are still missing the evolution for Ancient Fairy Dragon. Every other signer got an evolution (including Lua/Leo), but Lucca is still waiting it;
. It is still wild that we don't have a Rank 13 for Utopia. It would fit the archetype very well;
. Only Yusaku have access to a Link-5 and a Link-6 between the Cyberse players in Vrains (and Revolver doesn't have a Link-5 or 6 to the Topologic cards);
Good points I like that
About revolver we have borrel dragon (ritual /fusion /synchro /xyz /link we're missing the pendulum one) and link 6
About odd eyes remember when he had those Types fusion for example odd eyes +beast type =beast eyes or odd eyes +warrior type =brave eyes we need the rest of the types +an odd eyes link monster
And manga Yuto has no way of summoning Dark Anthelion Dragon in his own deck too.
@@nightshroud9671 yeah, but the brothers already manifested that they evolved their Dragons to Temporal Dragons just to help Yuya, that's why they hardly fit in their proper decks (but it is wild that Clear Wing Fast cannot be easily summon in the Odd-Eyes/Performapal strategy and only in the Speedroid one ☠️)
@@bahamut1169 good point about the Fusion evolutions of Odd-Eyes, but I think the show meant to have every summoning mechanic for Odd-Eyes (Konami redeem themselves with Odd-Eyes Solblaze, since they pushed Enlightenment Paladin for no reason in the Synchro Arc instead an Odd-Eyes Synchro evolution as supposed to be). That's why I said that we didn't have a proper evolution for Odd-Eyes in the anime, since all of this cards (Rune-Eyes, Brave-Eyes, Beast-Eyes, Solblaze and the hybrids) are not around the Pendulum mechanic itself as we go with Odd-Eyes Arc Pendulum and Odd-Eyes Pendulumgraph
*Chimera Hydradrive Dragrid*
I'm always reminded on how poorly designed that monster was with its multiple heads counterparts taking up 7 Extra Deck slots (not to mention the 4 elemental Link-1s) if it weren't for Master Storm Access. The issue gets exacerbated even further with the inclusion of *Perfectron Hydradrive Dragon,* making Chimera's summoning pretty redundant.
● With the Hydradrive deck, can't forget to mention the missing DARK and LIGHT Link-1s.
● Dragonmaids still missing Chamber Dragonmaid's dragon form.
● Weather Painters/The Weather is still missing their 'Red' monster.
● With Charmers, they're missing Dharc and Lyna's Cataclysmic Forms and Channeler Forms. Their familiars are missing their Older Forms and their Awakened Forms... And given their seeming connection to the Cataclysmic Series of monsters, might as well also include the missing LIGHT and DARK cards for them.
● On the HERO train, Evil HEROs are missing a lot of their Elemental HERO Fusion counterparts; listing the Elemental HERO Fusions Jaden played that do not have an Evil HERO counterpart- Wildedge, Plasma Vice, Mudballman, Necroid Shaman, Mariner, Darkbright, Tempest, and Shining Flare Wingman. This is not counting the Neos Fusions; though you could count them if you wanted as Neos was show in the Supreme King's deck, so he may or may not have still had the Neo-Spacians in his deck as well
● With Red-Eyes, given how many similar cards it shares with Blue-Eyes (The Stone of Legend and Alternative Dragon being examples) and the theming of making Red-Eyes counterparts to several of Joey's other monsters, there are quite a few things you could name out with this one
● Ojamas... Need I say more given how many Ojamas are shown in various cards that have not been printed; some of them even being joked about by other TH-camrs
... I probably could name some more decks, but I think I'll stop there
The rest of the Luster Dragon's as shown by Rebecca she had a red luster dragon 1600 atk points implying there were more to this cards
They are called 'gem dragons' not an archetype but a group of cards that are named around a theme in Japanese you will find that there are at least three other's of the top of my head that I can think of and the 'primordial dragon' archetype is related to them, having baby versions of them in the spell/trap artwork.
Really hope we do get the rest of the masked hero monsters, clay defender, and the rush duel heroes they recently made in the ocg/tcg.
Not sure if this applies, but Celtic Guardian. Because of the movie update, Celtic Guardian now implies there are more variants of that monster, but we only have the three, one of which is a Vanilla.
Dunno if this counts, and it's a TCG/OCG only archetype, but I want my FIRE and WIND atribute ePurrelies damn it
That is a good one to bring up.
we still need the rest of the perfomages and the assault blackwings too.
Yesss the assault Blackwings
The Ojama Mech can summon Ojama Mech: Black, Green or Yellow. We only saw Ojama Yellow being summoned.
You get bonus points for pronouncing Zexal correctly.
Interesting video! This is good content
Please we need more fire fist cards but we are missing the rest of the blackwing cards from Arc-V and manga
Ah Tai and Matt hahahahahahah says hello and yeah we need the other three fusion heroes and yes V cards did exist Undine, Slyph, V call oh man I would to see them and I think they are the counterparts of the ZW/ZS archetype man. You know we should had have the tag team of revolver and playmaker eventually two against bowman and ai.
Where is xyz Zarc? We have synchro and fusion Zarc, so where is XYZ Zarc
That is a good one to bring up. I might use it in another video. I honestly figured there would be 4 new Zarc cards when I saw the Synchro universe version of Zarc. I was thinking they would definitely make a XYZ, Fusion and Standard or Pendulum version.
@@ventusace9054 I mean …. We have a pending Zarc in arc ray, and Zarc .. is the fusion so.
I am aware Zarc is a fusion/pendulum monster already. I am not advocating for a Zarc that is a fusion monster or a Pendulum monster, but for a universe version of Zarc like the synchro Universe card. It stands to reason that there should be a Zarc (insert Universe name here)Universe monster that represents each universe in name and features the dragon that represents that universe from the anime the way Synchro universe has Clear Wing in the arc.
@@ventusace9054 tbh… you know what would be funny
You ever see Zarc in the anime where just all the cars types, just print that, where it’s just white black orange and purple all on one card
Actually, we were missing Z-ARC fusion, XYZ and Pendulum only forms, since the Synchro Universe is a different kind of set based on Z-ARC dueling alongside one of the Supreme King mode of the Dimensional Dragons
Like ⅓ of the entire D/D archetype ever got printed in the irl game
What about trap booster that spell card has use so many time in gx and they never print it
Jim Cook
I hope you do a vedio to a super vehicroid deck this archtype is so good in the manfa and have a lot of card Not produced in the game like solidroid alpha / beta / gamma
Its my fave deck and archtype and i want konami add somme card to this deck for male him Playable and tnx ❤
Where my Vision heros upgrade
Talking about the real issue with the world
What would we call the evolutions of thoes neo spacian monsters ?
Air diving bird
Shadow panther
Burning scarab
And magnitude mole
Thoes are my suggestions what about yours ?
Also are the cards professor banner used real? Just seeing V salamander reminded me of that
These are good but the first one wouldn't work since what is a diving bird? Also the organism name doesn't change only the element so the monster will still have Hummingbird in name and the air part will change for the evolution.
@@ventusace9054Neo-Spacian Hurricane Hummingbird, Neo-Spacian Phantom Panther, and Neo-Spacian Solar Scarab.
So, hear me out: I think these spell cards that "transform" monsters should be Ritual Spells with very specific requirements to bring out Ritual Monsters.
Then again, this idea is coming from a hypothetical Yugioh where Ritual Monsters belong in the extra deck along side Fusion Monsters, and Ritual Spells are more than just a polymerization for Ritual Monsters.
There's a reason why The Nex fusions and metamorphosis Elemental Heroes didn't continue. Neither of them worked out. The cards are 1. Horrible and it hurts to say that but it's true as I speak from experience 2. Konami were the ones that pulled the plug. And 3. Metamorphosis is still banned so you couldn't print those cards even if you wanted to and on top of that Metamorphosis won't be seeing any freedom ever not without an errata and well nobody wants that. And I played Neo Bubbleman and the Neo Spacian Nex fusions and they unfortunately suck so just let it go.
or just make a card that mimicks metamorphosis but for heroes specifically like calling it "HERO Morph" and then they could make a whole new set... probably based on attribute instead of specific ones if they want it to be meta relevant in any way. NEX could retrained to just be through using the spacians in grave to summon a new one so it has more use idk
@@Xeno-The-Wanderer they could. Whether Konami does it remains to be seen but we will see
Pretty much Transformation Summon before the concept was introduced via Masked Heroes but trash.
I agree that they suck but I doubt that is a good reason. Konami would regularly print anime cards that suck so I doubt Konami contacted Studio Gallop and said " Hey don't make more of these cards because they are bad and we don't want to print them". Heck look at most of Crow's Black wings in both 5Ds and Arc V, they absolutely suck and still got printed. Also even if the cards suck in a real life setting that is not an excuse for them to not be in the anime where they would likely have been used effectively, which they always did. The only real excuse for the Metamorphosis heroes is the banning of Metamorphosis and the show runners not wanting to make cards they know players can't actually use, but when it comes to NEX monsters the idea they didn't get printed because they suck doesn't really apply when you see all the horrible anime cards that have been printed throughout the franchise and unlike metamorphosis Heros the spell that summons NEX monsters is not banned. So while I agree they suck, I don't particularly find that as a strong reason why they never even appeared in the anime.
I'm not holding out my hope that those will continue however.
Where is Ojama Lime?
is no from the anime but the plunder patroll they have this gimmick of summon a boat base in the atributted of the oponent monster .
they first appeared have dark , light and fire boats then made earth and then stop no wind and water ship in the moment a write this come on konami where is the fly boat of peter pan and the submarine
And funny about shinobird because there something missing and no is from the story of this two but the spirits monster in general ... where is kushinada ?
the most important part of the story of yamato orochi because until this day i don´t undertand how susanoo (susa soldier) win that fight to yamata dragon (orochi) because one have 2000 atk and the other have 2600 atk and 3100 def , and the equip of the moment don´t have a boost in atk so what happen , and for some reason yamato no kami have a skin almost like proto yamata dragon (6 thinks and is arms look like the skin of the dragon)
and from the anime i think is the fight of ai and pandor and the missing topologic monster of level 4
really a great job and yes i missing the v archetype of zexal