KTM How To: 790 & 890 Adventure Oil Change
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2019
- NOTE: The oil filter cover bolts torque is 6nm - NOT 10nm as stated in the video.
We headed to the KTM USA headquarters in Murrieta California to go over some maintenance procedures for the all new 790 Adventure & 790 Adventure R. In this video we start off with changing the oil.
890 development video with Quinn Cody: bit.ly/890baja
890 Adventure Rally First Ride: bit.ly/890arRALLY
790 First Ride Impressions and Specs: bit.ly/2VKkWfD
Other KTM How To Videos: bit.ly/2howtoKTM
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Great video, thank you. One comment, 10nm on the oil filter cap seemed too much. I checked the owners manual and it indicates 6nm
When in doubt, definitely go with what the manual says. We did this at KTM's shop in California with their service people and went with what they instructed. Thanks for the comment!
@@UPSHIFT_ONLINE I just stripped out my brand new case using your provided 10nm spec - Thanks!!
One of the best tutorial which I ever seen
Thank you Max. Very kind of you!
@@UPSHIFT_ONLINE +1
One of the best 'how to' videos I've ever seen. No nonsense, clear facts and video, this is whatcha do. Well done.
We don't always get it done this clean. But we appreciate you watching and commenting!
Great tutorial video!! Little tips can help some people a lot the first time they do these things. Like the tip that both screens are identical for example. Thanks!
You’ll be my hero if you do a video on checking and adjusting the chain on the 790. The manual is clear as mud.
Very helpful video. When I filled the oil, the sight glass was full of oil, even when on side stand. However, after running the motor, the oil level normalized to 1/2 sight glass (perfect). Mentioning here because it was not mentioned in video and not mentioned in 890 OM/Repair Manual. Also torqued my filter bolts to 10nM. Lesson, read the comments before performing the procedure. Thanks again man, very helpful video -- appreciated.
Yes, always run the engine for a bit to warm up after filling and re-check your oil levels before riding. Thank you for watching.
Yes great tutorial. Lots of tips and good angles.
Thank you!
Great video, direct and to the point. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Clear, clean, complete and helpful. Cheers
Glad it was helpful. Thank you for watching.
Great tutorial! Thanks👍🏻
Glad you liked it. Appreciate the kind words!
Excellent tutorial. Invaluable tips! Thanks from downunder.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you very much, it helped me a lot.
Nice clear instructions, good vid 👍
Thank you for the kind words.
Great video. One note: The owners manual and repair manual of the 2021 890 ADVR say to put some medium loctite on the 4 front bolts of the skidplate. If this was not the case for previous years, maybe KTM found out bolts were missing after people rode offroad a lot and fixed it in their manuals 😄.
A little blue threadlocker is never a bad idea for these bolts. We prefer Stuck Nutz as they invest in keeping backcountry riding open to all.
Read here - bit.ly/stkNUTZ
A magnet works great to pull the oil filter out if you don’t have the pliers ! Great vid thanks !
Excellent tip. Thank you for watching.
Excellent video
Thank you for watching. Glad it was helpful.
Very nice man!!!
Thank you for watching!
Great videos!!!!! How about one on coolant change and flush for those of us who lost coolant thx to loose hose clamp !!!!! Thx again for videos !
Gracias
Buen video 👍🏻
Thank you for watching.
great video. neat.
Thank you much!
Useful video. Thanks 👍🏻 I haven’t bought my 890 yet but I already know how to change oil on it) Now I’m going to check if you have the same tutorial for the air filter.
Thank you for watching and commenting. There is an air filter video as well. th-cam.com/video/1UGTNEjg2qg/w-d-xo.html
And now I’ve done 5k miles on my 890. It’s time to change the oil)
What is the part number of the filter?
Thanks for the vid!
One more question if you don’t mind. Is there any difference between oil Motorex Power Synt and Cross Power for 890 Adv? Yeah I’ve heard than one is “for on road” and another “for off road” but it doesn’t make clear for me technical difference
Perfect thank you 😊
You are welcome. Enjoy your bike.
Awesome!
Thank you!
Thanks for that. 👌
You are welcome
Please, more how to on 790 Adv !!
Yep... we have more in the works.
Thanks David Pingree!
Thank you for watching!
Great and useful video, thank you so much. Can you please confirm guys if 1290 ADV /Super Duke air and oil filter fit in this 790 ADV? I want to install the K&N air filter but I'm not able to find it in their air filter's list. Thanks in advance for the answer and please continue uploading these great videos from this outstanding bike! You have a new suscriber!
Sorry for the late response. Really don't know off the top of our heads if the filters are the same.
Hi,.thanks for the video. Have you heard about oil consumption on the 790 Adv R engine ?
We put 15,000 miles on our 790 before switching to the 890 and we did not have oil consumption issues in that time frame.
Checking the engine oil level: The engine oil must be checked at normal engine operating temperature ( w/ Engine HOT). After switching off the engine, wait one minute before checking the level. Pg. 290 from your manual.
ask ping! who knew. great vid
Thank you!
what spray did you use to clean the screens? Where can I find the tall oil measuring container? thanks...great vid.
We use brake cleaner to clean the screens and the oil measuring beaker is pretty common at most motorcycle shops. Or search for the Polisport Oil Beaker.
Hello, thanks for the video. Is 2.8L excluding the oil you put in the filter?
total
@@UPSHIFT_ONLINE I've now done two oil changes on my 21 890 R measuring 2.8 liters total, exactly. After running bike for 5 min and turning off, I check the sight glass and oil level is at bottom of sight glass, not middle with moto standing exactly vertical. I always need to add about .2L to bring the sight glass up to mid-glass. Anyone else experience this?
Thank you David. I just picked up my new 2023 Ktm 890 Adventure R. Why anybody pays a dealership to do this is beyond me. I'm looking at the manual on oil change intervals and that seems quite long. What's everyones consensus oil/filter changes for the 890?
If you are using a quality oil, the interval is good.
What kind of cleaner did u use on the oil drain rods, silicone, carb cleaner?
Carb cleaner in the video. We now use Maxima suspension clean.
what was the pitcher you used with the oil in it?
I think it was an oil beaker from Polisport
I see the oil change kit comes with new screens. But it seems they just get cleaned and re-used.
The kit with the screens should probably get used at longer intervals. But the screens are serviceable.
I have a lot of metal shavings on my magnets and it's probably due to all the false neutrals I've gotten. It got it all off but it was a real bitch. Can you take the magnets out to clean them?
Not that we are aware of. It could cause some serious problems if the magnet came loose inside the motor.
What do you use to cleane those small oil filters ?
You replace them with new filters.
Hello sir. I have ktm 390 adventure the company is using motul 10w50 engine oil which needs top after every due to it decrease after every 500 to 1000kms... other experts say motorex is not good oil it becomes black very fast .. please suggest me correct grade of engine oil for ktm 390 adventure
Use what the owners manual calls out.
You say in your video and as mentioned in the manual :"first oil change at 620 miles and then moving onward from there it is 9300 miles".
That is correct. That first time frame is to get the break in miles done and get that break in oil out of the engine. Then your oil change interval extends by quite a lot.
Just bought a 890 3 weeks ago was changing oil and the vibration damper was bolted to engine and had wrong bolts as well. Guess going back to dealership to get the correct bolts this week. Kinda 😡 mad
That’s not ideal. Wonder if someone screwed up during the PDI.
Easier to service then the F850 GS then haha, I may have to jump to KTM from BMW they seem much easier to work on.
Just checked with a dealer. They want about $700 for the 9k service and $1300 for the 18k service. That's about $2k every 18k miles or about $.11 cents per mile. So if you ride 200 miles on a weekend, you'll pay about $22 towards the service, or about another tank of gas. Something few sale people will mention. Excellent video though....
Yes, the overall cost per mile is a figure very few look at when purchasing a motorcycle. Thank you for watching.
Thanks for the heads up.
Why not service it yourself ? Easy enough .
Because I'm getting lazier in my old age. Plus my mechanic says he likes KTM's, nice ride, performs well etc, but hates servicing them as most things aren't as easy as on other bikes. As I've know him for years and I'm a novice, and he's a professional, I'm inclined to trust him.
Hello! What is the part number of the oil filter?
Not really sure... We would definitely check with a KTM dealer to make sure you get the right stuff.
Is it thesame procedure with the 790 duke?
Would have to imagine it's pretty similar. But don't take our word for it.
Hi bro. I bought KTM 890 ADVENTURE S. I don't know the characteristics of KTM motorcycles. What is the engine oil change cycle?
You really need to look at the manual.
You got some yolked out forearms, my duder. Gd. Hahahaha 😂
he's yoked! ;)
Excellent job. I am really debating on buying a 790. I own a 2019 F850GSA which I love and took from Miami to Thailand -- 20,000 mile ride last year. But my next trip -- Miami to Cape Town, South Africa -- I would like to shed some weight --- Hence the 790 Adventure. But biggest issue I have had is the KTM reliability. I worry so much about KTM's breaking down -- or having some stupid nits. I travel around the world and BMW's never break -- and I always see KTM broken. I am not a BMW fanboy -- in fact I want the 790. What experience do you have with reliability with the 790? Do you think its safe to take with me in the middle of absolutely nowhere in Africa? Not kidding. Thanks.
We have had excellent luck with our 790. But we also pretty much tore it down to the frame and put it back together with proper grease and loctite etc. We also tuned the suspension and went through that tip to tail. The 790 is a more performance oriented machine and a little higher strung for sure and that could possibly contribute to reliability issues if you aren't mindful. But reliability hasn't been an issue for us on KTM. But you just never know what's going to happen out there.
How long between each oil change?
3000 miles / 5000 km and a full service every 9300 miles / 15,000 km
torque settings are 6nm on the oil filter bolts, not 10nm
9300 miles oil change in all riding conditions? Off road ,daily high traffic usage and hot weather conditions?
The 9300 mark is for a full service. Oil change intervals are 3,000-3,500 miles. If you are riding a lot of hard dusty offroad miles, be sure to check your air filter often and make a judgement call on oil. If you have been feathering the clutch a lot, running extremely hot etc... it might be smart to change oil sooner.
Its very clean oil..i cange oil if colour looklike a black coffe😂😂
It was the break in oil with not very many miles. Don't let your oil go too long... your engine deserves some love.
The 10 Nm torque settings on the oil filter cover IS INCORRECT, in the book it states 6Nm of torque….
I know this because I torqued mine to 10Nm after watching this video and snapped the head off a bolt.
Hey Paul - thanks for the comment. We are going to look at adding a note to the video and we will be adding a note to the description. We did not double check this as we shot this video in KTM's service department with a couple of their service people. But we clearly got it wrong anyhow.
Hi Paul, I did the same dumb thing but without snapping the bolt. Now, after torquing it to 6Nm, the oil is leaking a little bit... Did you had any leaks and how did you fix them? New O-ring?
I'm so used to careless mechanics/techs rushing, skipping filter priming, using air ratchets to torque, etc.... wouldn't mind paying for careful work like this!
Thank you for the kind words.
Why draining good engine oil. Feel like it had only 3000km or less.
Am using Motul 7100 and draining 100hrs working or 9000km.
It was a relatively new bike with 680 miles if remembered correctly. It was time for the initial oil change to get the break in oil that comes from the factory out of the bike. After that, you want to change the oil every 5000 KM / 3000 Miles. Every 15,000 KM / 9,300 miles you want to do a full service.
Just snapped my oil filter bolts due to the 10nm :)))) no more upshift videos for me.
Pero si lleva 12 nm 🤣
10nm is too much for the filter cap! 6nm is correct!
if it's your personal bike, I would wait until the last drop left engine, not like in this tutorial..
Well for the sake of time, we had to get on with things. If letting every single drop drain out is important to you, by all means that's what you need to do.
oh thank god i dont have to take the tank off.
Nope. It's pretty straight forward.
The bike should be on the sidestand to allow more oil to be drained. It's on the manual, try reading it!
Thanks man! Yes you are right. But for the sake of the video and walking folks through the process it was better to have the bike on the lift and the bike upright. Most people don't have a lift and do change their oil off the kickstand. Sometimes you gotta read between the lines and not be quite so literal. You will live longer.
Lots of steps for a simple oil change.
KTM could have done a better design.
We thought it was pretty straight forward really.
yea removing that skid plate and the extra bolt/screen is a real hassle..........jesus
define better ? what do you mean lots of steps ?
Yes, I thought this was a super-simple oil change. No removing tons of plastic to get to the bits you need. The only thing is the circlip pliers recommended to take the oil filter out. But since you won't be using the filter again, as mentioned, regular needle nose pliers should be fine. It's not like the filter is jammed in there...
You can probably do this in 15 - 20 minutes. Well done KTM!
But they're so good at it. ;)