Made this with my Grand-Daughter tonight and was just brilliant! We cooked her favorite meal... Raman noodles. She was thrilled she built it!!! and the fact that she gets to calls it the "Monkey Boy Stove" makes it that much more fun. Thank you Very Much
This has made my day Neil, thank you for showing everyone the stove and for the shout out 😀 you are correct we moved to Scotland and I am currently in the process of building a canoe which will hopefully be featured on TV again soon. You are always welcome to join me on adventures he in Scotland some day in fact I will be renaming my channel soon to Sammy's-lavvu where I will sharing my adventures. Hope to see you in the near future from your old friend Sammy aka monkeboy 😉 p.s Keep up the awesome videos
@@RickTOutdoorAdventure1969 lol I know. I like it. I have about as many alcohol and twig stoves as I do tent stoves and I don't need anymore but the small size of this one is awesome.
I made this little burner but I don't have an attic or loft , so there wasn't any insulation, so I improvised (I had just replaced the insulation in my fire place door, had some insulation rope left over) 1/4 inch rope (2 layers) I also ruined a tea strainer to get the screening. long story short I filled it up with denatured alcohol lite it up and it burned for just under 10 minutes. next I filled it up sat it in an Esbit Pocket Stove lite it up and in just under 5 minutes had 2 cups of water at a full roiling boil. its a great little burner
I finally made this simple stove, and I love it. It took longer for me to gather the supplies than to actually build the stove. I'll be making several of these for my outdoor friends.
Made one today and used a tuna tin as windbreak and pot stand tuna tin had hole's punched in side boiled two cups of water in old camping pot no problems
👍 .. a Super Share .. thanks. I have a heap of these little stoves in various shapes and sizes .. and very handy they are too. One thing though .. 'Insulation', one must ensure that it is Fibre Glass / Ceramic Wool based. The Polyester Ceiling Insulation Fibre is a no-no. Take care ..
Just found your site and love it. I’m in Tennessee so you must be in Texas because of the way you talk. What part? You have great common sense and like most outdoors people, your cheap! My kind of people! Take care brother!
Didn't use the mesh on mine,but will make adjustment.I made one in lip balm tin but used stove rope,the stuff for wood burners.£2.20 Amazon.Great little stove.That and little fluid,little pot to boil coffee if caught out..cracked it.
I'm new to your channel, but you have me hooked. Nifty little improv. As I watched you make it, a couple of shortcuts came to mind. Instead of bending the screen by hand, just form it around the outside of the can. Then, after squeezing as much insulation into the resulting screen pocket as you are able, invert it and stuff it into the can ( you may need to trim the screen edge a bit to make it easier). I think I'll look for a similar can and whip one up in the near future. Thanks.
Great idea! Thats so funny I have been making little char cloth boxes for my different kits and that's a perfect piece of kit to add to mine. Small lightweight and simple. Thanks Neil 😁👍.
My best mate was a sniper (9 tours) he laughs at stealth campers. no fires, shit in a bag no trace stuff. However its agreat bit of diy kit. Thanx and best wishes
Good stuff, thanks. (Also nice to read that Sammy is doing well). I've had success making a stove like this using the mesh from a super cheapo tea strainer from Poundland. You can cut that with scissors.
Just really enjoying your videos and approach from my side of the pond in the colonies. LOL, my uncle retired from USN to the UK, so I feel a kinship. Keep up the great work may try and get over that way for an outing one day :-) If you ever want to wander to the east coast of the US, I would be honored to host you!
Hey man, here's a simple thing i do that i discovered, you should try, get a charcoal lighter, the upright metal tube with handle, at dollar store, and a burner grate for a household normal stove top from thrift store or appliance repair shop. it makes an amazing on demand rocket stove or for placement of your mini stove. works so well i can't even tell you. also indispensable for accelerating or starting fires used as an updraft unit. also it's an amazing heater. best thing ever.
Great little stove idea, it was so simple to make. I used an empty dubbing wax tin. It worked well cutting a long thin strip of insulation and rolling it up into a spiral shape. I am going to experiment gluing in a rubber gasket on the lid to keep the meths in, it leaked out a bit
Hi, you can probably boost the stove by placing a piece of hexamine tablet on top of the mesh of an already fuelled stove. It may either produce more heat or burn longer? One tablet on its own isn't enough to boil a brew, only to warm it up. Just a suggestion. I have changed this suggestion after viewing a BCB Firedragon fuel tablet test which leaves a lot of residue behind.
If anyone makes this tiny stove, then buy your tin of Vaseline but don't waste the Vaseline, coat cotton wool balls with it and keep it in a waterproof bag and use the balls to start an open fire with. The Vaseline being petroleum based will take a spark very easily and will burn much longer to allow you to build your fire.
I thought I was gonna see a wood stove. If you want a stealth wood fire you need a couple of things: - a highly efficient burn - proper combustible material You can not make a smokeless fire with wet or green wood, it will always smoke till it dries out. If you have to burn that kind of stuff, use the thinnest stuff possible and stack a big pile of it around your fire so it dries out with radiation before you throw it into the fire. As for the fire, a Dakota fire hole is you best option. Works like a rocket stove and will burn hot and with little smoke after it gets going. It also gets the coals and most of the flame out of sight which can be helpful at night. What I like is a wood gasifier stove. It’s not what the name implies, it’s just a secondary combustion system which preheats air and feeds it in at the top to reignite unburnt wood gases, ie smoke. Works wonders with proper dry wood, at least after it gets up to temperature. Windshield always advisable to reduce the amount of flame visible from around you (which is my biggest concern since I stealth camp around civilization).
I love alcohol stoves and have made and used many over the years, as a windshied I use an oblong of canvas folded in and stitched on the short sides to form sleeves, using sticks or tent pegs to anchor the ends and one or more along the length to form a vee or a curve it works great, if you need it very close to your stove just soak it with water, costs nothing and packs small and light
I like this little burner but it looks like you could use wire window screen instead of the tea strainer wire and maybe fire rope insulation or carbon fiber, instead of the fiberglass insulation
I think fire rope would be best. Coiled up. Where I live there is a closed fireplace and last year before Winter they replaced the fire rope around the door. End of winter the fire rope is still white. Looks like it came out of the pa ket five minutes ago.
Great video and stove there Neil, I have been using my monkey boy stove for years I also learnt it from BCUK, they are a great bit of kit. I use mine in my bcb set up with the British army water bottle and the crusader cup. I still use the mark 1 cup but now use the mark 2 burner/windshield as it is a better set up. My cup lid was made by laundich from BCUK as well.
Hi, just to let you know, the 'Speedster' stoves are cheap to buy, come in two sizes and ready to use. For those wishing to make a larger one ☝️an empty boot/shoe polish tin is worth considering. P S, the Dutch 🇳🇱 army stainless mug takes their one ☝️litre water 💦 bottle.
Helloooooooooooooo Neil, long time no see, welcome back on the channel, or have you been here all the time?? Great little project, I'll definitely give this a try, its not going to be as light as my Red bull Aluminium stove, but it's a lot more robust and compact.
Nice video, but I was a bit disappointed you didn't show the set up of the secondary windscreen when you used the stove. I was also thinking that it might be an idea to bring foil or something to set under the stove so the ground doesn't get damaged. Of course I don' know how hot it gets but I thought if you had something unburnable to set it on you wouldn't have needed to make the hole in the moss layer that you did. Might leave less of a trace.
Hi Neil. Great little stove. I made one and found it a lot easier to stuff all the insulation into the mesh,then put the whole lot into the tin. It just went in a lot easier. All the best.👍🏾🇬🇧🏕🍁
Great video! Having just spent a fortune on gasifier stoves, spirit burners and rocket stoves to try for my camper van, I happened on your channel etc. I could have done with seeing this video before. How does this stove compare to the Trangia type and copies etc? Presumably they just burn longer. TIA.
I make similar burners using sand or whatever is locally available dirt or small gravel wise. I have even used, used dried coffee grounds, of course that isn't really stealth! You don't even need a container, you can just clear a small area for your alcohol right on the ground and light it...edited .. I dont recommend just pouring your fuel on the ground except for an emergency but it does work.. and of course you need to be aware of your surroundings and pay attention to your fire
@@BingWatcher a match is a fire hazard in many environments. I dont recommend just pouring your fuel on the ground except for an emergency but it does work.. and of course you need to be aware of your surroundings and pay attention to your fire..
Could the same idea be done with a shoe polish tin so ie making the burner a bit bigger, more fuel, last longer and maybe use a fire box as your stand for your pot thus boiling or cooking larger quantities of food and boiling more water at a time?????
That Loft Insulation is made from Fibreglass and it makes my skin itch something awful. If it is still the same stuff, folk might be warned to wear gloves before handling it and stuffing it into a tin can. I think that those that use this stuff often for their work have to wear face masks too.
I’ve been wanting to make one of these for a little while, just can’t find a good tin for the stove. I like my Trangia burners but just want something small & simple, kind of like a meth version of Esbit. A different way for a quick & easy coffee.
Funnily enough I was only researching this last night after seeing it in your boot video. As I get older I find I've ended up with more and more evidence for the collective unconscious! I've had weeks to look for how these are made but I choose, apparently randomly, the same night that you are looking to upload yours. My theory is we are linked as a species at a higher level of super consciousness a little like how birds are able to murmurate without hitting each other. Things just leak across without you noticing till you see the evidence the next day. Hundreds of times this has happened to me over the years in such specific ways that coincidence no longer cuts it for me as an explanation. Anyway enough of my wild theories please see below!!! Alternative fillers that don't require mesh look like fire rope and carbon felt. Not sure how good they are just seen them being used in other videos.
I was military and did stealth recce,s but their was a reason behind it so i find it strange grown men creeping around woods in cammo here in the UK. We don't have wooded areas that big that you need survival training and all the gear that goes with it. Everybody to their own i suppose.
Sound travels further after dark?!! I would love to know the science behind that bold claim. Maybe it's because there are no light waves to interfere with the sound waves, less wave friction🤔 or maybe I call BS!!🤣
Before you embarrass yourself further you might want to check out something called “physics” or more specifically refraction. There may be less background noise at night however the main reason is because sound waves travel differently at night than during the day. This is a phenomenon called refraction that affects the direction of sound propagation. During the day, the sound bends away from the ground; during the night, it bends towards the ground. Hence at night you have additional "sound" reaching you, making it louder. This is not a perceived effect because there is less other noise around - the sound IS actually louder. So what governs the direction the sound bends in? It is governed by the speed of sound in the medium. In air, a change in temperature affects the speed of sound propagation, so if we have air at different temperatures, we can consider this two different mediums. During the day, the ground absorbs heat, so the temperature is higher closer to the ground; at night it starts releasing heat, and since hot air rises, the air closer to the ground is cooler. To put short, sound bends towards cooler air. So to summarise, sound is louder at night due to the change in the direction of sound refraction, which is caused by the reversal of the temperature gradient from day to night. Hope this helps you out.
@@slippery999 Embarrass myself?🤣😂 I knew when I was writing that comment, that some SMARTARSE would come up with a scientific explanation as to why sound travels FURTHER at night. I was goading, waiting for some idiot like you to respond. What kept you? I had given up and forgotten about this comment. Have you spent the last 4 months researching your answer? Making sure that you got each detail correct, to put me in my place?🤣 You wouldn't want to SLIP, and mess something up😆 Have a great one Slippery, and thankyou for the chuckle🤣😂🤣😂🤣
In terms of weight saving, you’re showing quite a bit of liquid (probably 100ml, which you say is just enough for two brews). What about cooking for 15 minutes, which is what an average (non-MRE) meal takes to cook. Wouldn’t it be a better option to have one of those mini gas stoves - 250g can last you up to a week. Both more economical, and lighter setup overall if you’re camping for longer than an overnighter. No? I see more and more servicemen switch to gas stoves and JetBoil, but I haven’t seen a single one use Monkey Stove or Trangia or any of those alcohol stoves. And they are, as you say, professional stealth campers.
Excellent points, well raised. If I'm out camping for a while, a few days then I might take my gas stove, there are times they make perfect sense. I prefer if I can, to use something simpler, with no parts to go wrong, or even better, light a fire. The reason Jet Boils are very popular is speed and convenience.....but, there is a lot to go wrong and they are almost impossible to use over a fire, when it goes wrong.
@@greencraft4783 Thanks for responding. Personally, I’d never use JetBoil. They’re only good for boiling water and that’s it (if you have a bergen full of MREs yeah, it makes sense then) - can’t really cook in them, food at the bottom burns and sticks, and then it’s nearly impossible to clean. I can tell you some horror stories about people messing up the JetBoi cupl on day 1 and then have nothing to really cook with for the remainder of the passage at seas. For a day trip or overnighter the Monkey Stove is a perfect choice (if I can ascertain that fibreglass wool is harmless). I’ve bumped into his videos a few times over the years. He has a strange giggle, so initially I thought he’s the original inspiration for the Joker, but the more one listens to him… that guy should be given a Nobel Prise for Bushcraft innovations. He’s like modern day Kochanski. His mat alone is probably better than anything that’s on the market - I’ve made a similar mat a while back, although mine is self-inflating and serves 3 purposes in my overall kit.
I made one of these with the same Vaseline tin, and using my homemade pot stand with a flame height of 50 millimeters I boiled 400 mils of water in five minutes which is two minutes faster than the trangia. The Flame was huge but the kettle seemed to be in the sweet spot. I think this is an Outdoors only project.! th-cam.com/video/Hy4TU4Saxng/w-d-xo.html
To all the young people hoping to learn Don’t prat about with a flint and steel it’s absolutely pathetic ! Disposable lighters are so cheep to buy just carry a few with you they last for a long time and are a lot more reliable than anything else Remember it’s about heating water and food not about being Rambo .
This may sound like a stupid question but what is methylated spirits? Is it the same as lighter fluid? Sorry I'm from the US and we don't use the same terminology. No offense Neil. I really enjoyed the video 😁👍
I live in the states as well, and I use gas line antifreeze, the yellow bottle of "Heet". You can get it at any gas station in the winter, or year round at Walmart, AutoZone, or any parts store.
Isn’t fibreglass really bad for lungs and basically all organs exposed to it? I’m just questioning the wisdom of having open fibreglass and being part of the flame that is so close to one’s food and brew. Of course, I could also be totally wrong.
@@greencraft4783 yeah, I thought about using cotton, but I guess it’ll burn once alcohol runs out. There’s some reason why MonkeyBoy suggested fibreglass wool, I just can’t find out what it is. But a Vaseline tin sized stealth-camping stove able to burn 5-10min (per load) would be great. By the way how much fuel does it consume in 5 minutes? I’m trying to lighten my setup as much as possible, although I cook meals rather than use MREs, and that’s why I have a gas stove (but 100ml can weights 195g)
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Made this with my Grand-Daughter tonight and was just brilliant! We cooked her favorite meal... Raman noodles.
She was thrilled she built it!!! and the fact that she gets to calls it the "Monkey Boy Stove" makes it that much more fun. Thank you Very Much
This has made my day Neil, thank you for showing everyone the stove and for the shout out 😀 you are correct we moved to Scotland and I am currently in the process of building a canoe which will hopefully be featured on TV again soon. You are always welcome to join me on adventures he in Scotland some day in fact I will be renaming my channel soon to Sammy's-lavvu where I will sharing my adventures. Hope to see you in the near future from your old friend Sammy aka monkeboy 😉 p.s Keep up the awesome videos
Great to hear your doing well. A good move and one which I hope sorts your health out buddy. I may well take you up on that offer some day
Made one just for fun. I'm definitely talking it out when i go walking. Great for one cuppa.
Striking a fero rod with an Opinel is a sure sign of good taste. Thank you for the nice and easy little stove project.
Awesome compact stove. I like it.
Hi Lonnie, thanks for taking the time to reply. Hoping all is well with you both.
Another one to add to youre extensive collection Lonnie , although a wee bit smaller 🙂👍
@@RickTOutdoorAdventure1969 lol I know. I like it. I have about as many alcohol and twig stoves as I do tent stoves and I don't need anymore but the small size of this one is awesome.
I made this little burner but I don't have an attic or loft , so there wasn't any insulation, so I improvised (I had just replaced the insulation in my fire place door, had some insulation rope left over) 1/4 inch rope (2 layers) I also ruined a tea strainer to get the screening. long story short I filled it up with denatured alcohol lite it up and it burned for just under 10 minutes. next I filled it up sat it in an Esbit Pocket Stove lite it up and in just under 5 minutes had 2 cups of water at a full roiling boil. its a great little burner
Thanks Neil for the video on making the stove. Looks like a good project for the grandson and me
Going to make one of these with my boy. He’ll love it. Thanks for sharing
Just ordered the mug lid and stand, can't wait to try it in anger.
I finally made this simple stove, and I love it. It took longer for me to gather the supplies than to actually build the stove. I'll be making several of these for my outdoor friends.
Made one today and used a tuna tin as windbreak and pot stand tuna tin had hole's punched in side boiled two cups of water in old camping pot no problems
👍 .. a Super Share .. thanks.
I have a heap of these little stoves in various shapes and sizes .. and very handy they are too.
One thing though .. 'Insulation', one must ensure that it is Fibre Glass / Ceramic Wool based. The Polyester Ceiling Insulation Fibre is a no-no.
Take care ..
Boot polish tins are great for this
As it is easy to get the top off with cold or wet hands.
Crosman pellet cans work great 2...
Mint tins 😉👍
Just found your site and love it. I’m in Tennessee so you must be in Texas because of the way you talk. What part? You have great common sense and like most outdoors people, your cheap! My kind of people! Take care brother!
Haha.. Or are you serious? Just wondering? Because its not Texas.
Just tried this with an airgun pellet tin (.22) and worked a treat! Thanx... 8-)
Perhaps my favourite bit of kit in my rucksack. Brilliant, love it.
Absolutely genius, im gunna go make one right now, thanks Greencraft
Class defo gonna try this one 👍
Good idea. Thx
Christian & Hektor
Very cool little stove. I will have to make one for my sniper kit.
Didn't use the mesh on mine,but will make adjustment.I made one in lip balm tin but used stove rope,the stuff for wood burners.£2.20 Amazon.Great little stove.That and little fluid,little pot to boil coffee if caught out..cracked it.
I made it today from nivea creme box - works amazingly well and temp is also high. Thank you very much Neil for great project!
Hi. I am also using Nivea tin. But I can only find the one ounce (30 ml) container. What size worked for you? Thank you for your help
@@BingWatcher i bought big 250 ml one, material is quite ok too!
@@zbigniewkrajewski7536 Thank you for the information. I am not sure if that that size is available in the US. But I will look for it. Happy trails.
made one from a shoe polish tin and a pot stand from a old computer fan guard and some 4 inch bolts
That's just a brilliant idea! Got to make one asap 👍
I'm new to your channel, but you have me hooked. Nifty little improv. As I watched you make it, a couple of shortcuts came to mind. Instead of bending the screen by hand, just form it around the outside of the can. Then, after squeezing as much insulation into the resulting screen pocket as you are able, invert it and stuff it into the can ( you may need to trim the screen edge a bit to make it easier). I think I'll look for a similar can and whip one up in the near future. Thanks.
Neil , great tip , thanks for sharing , God bless !
Great idea! Thats so funny I have been making little char cloth boxes for my different kits and that's a perfect piece of kit to add to mine. Small lightweight and simple. Thanks Neil 😁👍.
very nice
Very nice.
Very nice little stove. Thanks for showing us. Take care.
My best mate was a sniper (9 tours) he laughs at stealth campers. no fires, shit in a bag no trace stuff. However its agreat bit of diy kit. Thanx and best wishes
Good stuff, thanks. (Also nice to read that Sammy is doing well). I've had success making a stove like this using the mesh from a super cheapo tea strainer from Poundland. You can cut that with scissors.
Top video Neil, appreciated.
Excellent video and great demonstration
Just really enjoying your videos and approach from my side of the pond in the colonies. LOL, my uncle retired from USN to the UK, so I feel a kinship. Keep up the great work may try and get over that way for an outing one day :-) If you ever want to wander to the east coast of the US, I would be honored to host you!
Super idea . Big fan is alcohol stove but never occurred to me to do this. Thanks
This looks interesting. I have an old strainer...
Handy looking little stove there. Reminded me of watching Blue Peter . 🤪 Atb Neil 👍
I remember these from the old Sussex meets.
Just subbed. Looking through your other vids all good content and well presented,👍👍
Cómo estás! I'm impressed on how you ended this video This is simple entertainment for me 😆
Hey man, here's a simple thing i do that i discovered, you should try, get a charcoal lighter, the upright metal tube with handle, at dollar store, and a burner grate for a household normal stove top from thrift store or appliance repair shop. it makes an amazing on demand rocket stove or for placement of your mini stove. works so well i can't even tell you. also indispensable for accelerating or starting fires used as an updraft unit. also it's an amazing heater. best thing ever.
Nice one Neil 👍 always enjoy your simple projects 🍻
That is amazing !!!
Thank you !!!
Brilliant little stove, good video, subscribed. Thanks.
Good stuff
Made something similar about three years ago, using a shoe polish tin. Based in an ex military Crusader works like a dream.
Thank you for the video.
Great little stove idea, it was so simple to make. I used an empty dubbing wax tin. It worked well cutting a long thin strip of insulation and rolling it up into a spiral shape.
I am going to experiment gluing in a rubber gasket on the lid to keep the meths in, it leaked out a bit
Nice one Neil. I may just have to make one with my son.
Another great vid 👌
Brilliant, love it. Thanks.
Hi, you can probably boost the stove by placing a piece of hexamine tablet on top of the mesh of an already fuelled stove. It may either produce more heat or burn longer? One tablet on its own isn't enough to boil a brew, only to warm it up. Just a suggestion.
I have changed this suggestion after viewing a BCB Firedragon fuel tablet test which leaves a lot of residue behind.
I found that simply putting a lid on your cup/pot it will bring it to a boil.
Another great, informative video. Thanks, again.
If anyone makes this tiny stove, then buy your tin of Vaseline but don't waste the Vaseline, coat cotton wool balls with it and keep it in a waterproof bag and use the balls to start an open fire with. The Vaseline being petroleum based will take a spark very easily and will burn much longer to allow you to build your fire.
Is it possible to just burn the Vaseline without the insulation and omit the liquid fuel?
I thought I was gonna see a wood stove. If you want a stealth wood fire you need a couple of things:
- a highly efficient burn
- proper combustible material
You can not make a smokeless fire with wet or green wood, it will always smoke till it dries out. If you have to burn that kind of stuff, use the thinnest stuff possible and stack a big pile of it around your fire so it dries out with radiation before you throw it into the fire.
As for the fire, a Dakota fire hole is you best option. Works like a rocket stove and will burn hot and with little smoke after it gets going. It also gets the coals and most of the flame out of sight which can be helpful at night. What I like is a wood gasifier stove. It’s not what the name implies, it’s just a secondary combustion system which preheats air and feeds it in at the top to reignite unburnt wood gases, ie smoke. Works wonders with proper dry wood, at least after it gets up to temperature. Windshield always advisable to reduce the amount of flame visible from around you (which is my biggest concern since I stealth camp around civilization).
I love alcohol stoves and have made and used many over the years, as a windshied I use an oblong of canvas folded in and stitched on the short sides to form sleeves, using sticks or tent pegs to anchor the ends and one or more along the length to form a vee or a curve it works great, if you need it very close to your stove just soak it with water, costs nothing and packs small and light
Great tip! Thanks👍
I like this little burner but it looks like you could use wire window screen instead of the tea strainer wire and maybe fire rope insulation or carbon fiber, instead of the fiberglass insulation
I think fire rope would be best. Coiled up. Where I live there is a closed fireplace and last year before Winter they replaced the fire rope around the door. End of winter the fire rope is still white. Looks like it came out of the pa ket five minutes ago.
Great video and stove there Neil, I have been using my monkey boy stove for years I also learnt it from BCUK, they are a great bit of kit. I use mine in my bcb set up with the British army water bottle and the crusader cup. I still use the mark 1 cup but now use the mark 2 burner/windshield as it is a better set up. My cup lid was made by laundich from BCUK as well.
Hi, just to let you know, the 'Speedster' stoves are cheap to buy, come in two sizes and ready to use. For those wishing to make a larger one ☝️an empty boot/shoe polish tin is worth considering.
P S, the Dutch 🇳🇱 army stainless mug takes their one ☝️litre water 💦 bottle.
Helloooooooooooooo Neil, long time no see, welcome back on the channel, or have you been here all the time??
Great little project, I'll definitely give this a try, its not going to be as light as my Red bull Aluminium stove, but it's
a lot more robust and compact.
I made one from a shoe polish tin, been using it for years
Nice video, but I was a bit disappointed you didn't show the set up of the secondary windscreen when you used the stove. I was also thinking that it might be an idea to bring foil or something to set under the stove so the ground doesn't get damaged. Of course I don' know how hot it gets but I thought if you had something unburnable to set it on you wouldn't have needed to make the hole in the moss layer that you did. Might leave less of a trace.
I was thinking the same - even more so when he lit up the moss around the burner with that spark, and didn’t even seem to care about that :-/
Hi Neil.
Great little stove.
I made one and found it a lot easier to stuff all the insulation into the mesh,then put the whole lot into the tin. It just went in a lot easier.
All the best.👍🏾🇬🇧🏕🍁
Great video! Having just spent a fortune on gasifier stoves, spirit burners and rocket stoves to try for my camper van, I happened on your channel etc. I could have done with seeing this video before. How does this stove compare to the Trangia type and copies etc? Presumably they just burn longer. TIA.
Much like a kojin stove that is sold with the caldera cone.
Thank you for this project Neil! For cooking it is as fast as your DIY stove ? Thanks!
BTW looks like 2 of your stealth stove could fit aside in the canteen cooker for doubling the speed of cooking
Just seen the video great,John,Sheppey, s e uk..................................
I make similar burners using sand or whatever is locally available dirt or small gravel wise. I have even used, used dried coffee grounds, of course that isn't really stealth! You don't even need a container, you can just clear a small area for your alcohol right on the ground and light it...edited .. I dont recommend just pouring your fuel on the ground except for an emergency but it does work.. and of course you need to be aware of your surroundings and pay attention to your fire
Sound like a fire hazard in most environments.
@@BingWatcher a match is a fire hazard in many environments. I dont recommend just pouring your fuel on the ground except for an emergency but it does work.. and of course you need to be aware of your surroundings and pay attention to your fire..
@@docink6175 I agree. Thanks for your clarifications
How long does it take to boil a full cup of water, just wanted that to figure how much fuel to carry. Thanks f I made one . Great information thanks
Could the same idea be done with a shoe polish tin so ie making the burner a bit bigger, more fuel, last longer and maybe use a fire box as your stand for your pot thus boiling or cooking larger quantities of food and boiling more water at a time?????
Good idea, any of those small tins could work ! Great for stealth, one meal or cupa, or coffee!
You missed the linktree link out of the description though
Is the filler safe to breathe? Thanks, like your videos.
very similar to the coke can stove where you use cotton wool
if i cut a piece out of my mom's seive i wouldn't live long nuff 2 use my stove 🤣
Try an old window screen! Works wicked good !
Nice compact stove Neil. Does the tin seal well enough to hold fuel?
Nate
Yes it should but it doesn't matter. The loft insulation will absorb most of the fuel and by the time you are finished most will be burned off.
That Loft Insulation is made from Fibreglass and it makes my skin itch something awful. If it is still the same stuff, folk might be warned to wear gloves before handling it and stuffing it into a tin can. I think that those that use this stuff often for their work have to wear face masks too.
Use the spun rock wool...
I just watched the video and was thinking the same thing. I was itching just watching him. But I will make ti using gloves.
Try the stove with carbon felt…
I’ve been wanting to make one of these for a little while, just can’t find a good tin for the stove. I like my Trangia burners but just want something small & simple, kind of like a meth version of Esbit. A different way for a quick & easy coffee.
Use a mint can. That's basically what he has in the video. Plus you buy it for the mints and you get a free metal tin
Great stuff. What is it you use as a wind shield?
Disposable bbq tray
@@greencraft4783 Ah of course! Genius
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Funnily enough I was only researching this last night after seeing it in your boot video.
As I get older I find I've ended up with more and more evidence for the collective unconscious! I've had weeks to look for how these are made but I choose, apparently randomly, the same night that you are looking to upload yours. My theory is we are linked as a species at a higher level of super consciousness a little like how birds are able to murmurate without hitting each other. Things just leak across without you noticing till you see the evidence the next day. Hundreds of times this has happened to me over the years in such specific ways that coincidence no longer cuts it for me as an explanation. Anyway enough of my wild theories please see below!!!
Alternative fillers that don't require mesh look like fire rope and carbon felt. Not sure how good they are just seen them being used in other videos.
What can be used other than fibreglass insulation?
Carbon felt
I was military and did stealth recce,s but their was a reason behind it so i find it strange grown men creeping around woods in cammo here in the UK. We don't have wooded areas that big that you need survival training and all the gear that goes with it. Everybody to their own i suppose.
How do you put this out? is blowing on it sufficient?
The base of your mug.
Sound travels further after dark?!! I would love to know the science behind that bold claim. Maybe it's because there are no light waves to interfere with the sound waves, less wave friction🤔 or maybe I call BS!!🤣
Before you embarrass yourself further you might want to check out something called “physics” or more specifically refraction. There may be less background noise at night however the main reason is because sound waves travel differently at night than during the day. This is a phenomenon called refraction that affects the direction of sound propagation. During the day, the sound bends away from the ground; during the night, it bends towards the ground. Hence at night you have additional "sound" reaching you, making it louder. This is not a perceived effect because there is less other noise around - the sound IS actually louder.
So what governs the direction the sound bends in? It is governed by the speed of sound in the medium. In air, a change in temperature affects the speed of sound propagation, so if we have air at different temperatures, we can consider this two different mediums.
During the day, the ground absorbs heat, so the temperature is higher closer to the ground; at night it starts releasing heat, and since hot air rises, the air closer to the ground is cooler. To put short, sound bends towards cooler air.
So to summarise, sound is louder at night due to the change in the direction of sound refraction, which is caused by the reversal of the temperature gradient from day to night. Hope this helps you out.
@@slippery999 Embarrass myself?🤣😂 I knew when I was writing that comment, that some SMARTARSE would come up with a scientific explanation as to why sound travels FURTHER at night. I was goading, waiting for some idiot like you to respond. What kept you? I had given up and forgotten about this comment. Have you spent the last 4 months researching your answer? Making sure that you got each detail correct, to put me in my place?🤣 You wouldn't want to SLIP, and mess something up😆
Have a great one Slippery, and thankyou for the chuckle🤣😂🤣😂🤣
In terms of weight saving, you’re showing quite a bit of liquid (probably 100ml, which you say is just enough for two brews). What about cooking for 15 minutes, which is what an average (non-MRE) meal takes to cook. Wouldn’t it be a better option to have one of those mini gas stoves - 250g can last you up to a week. Both more economical, and lighter setup overall if you’re camping for longer than an overnighter. No?
I see more and more servicemen switch to gas stoves and JetBoil, but I haven’t seen a single one use Monkey Stove or Trangia or any of those alcohol stoves. And they are, as you say, professional stealth campers.
Excellent points, well raised. If I'm out camping for a while, a few days then I might take my gas stove, there are times they make perfect sense.
I prefer if I can, to use something simpler, with no parts to go wrong, or even better, light a fire.
The reason Jet Boils are very popular is speed and convenience.....but, there is a lot to go wrong and they are almost impossible to use over a fire, when it goes wrong.
@@greencraft4783 Thanks for responding. Personally, I’d never use JetBoil. They’re only good for boiling water and that’s it (if you have a bergen full of MREs yeah, it makes sense then) - can’t really cook in them, food at the bottom burns and sticks, and then it’s nearly impossible to clean. I can tell you some horror stories about people messing up the JetBoi cupl on day 1 and then have nothing to really cook with for the remainder of the passage at seas.
For a day trip or overnighter the Monkey Stove is a perfect choice (if I can ascertain that fibreglass wool is harmless). I’ve bumped into his videos a few times over the years. He has a strange giggle, so initially I thought he’s the original inspiration for the Joker, but the more one listens to him… that guy should be given a Nobel Prise for Bushcraft innovations. He’s like modern day Kochanski. His mat alone is probably better than anything that’s on the market - I’ve made a similar mat a while back, although mine is self-inflating and serves 3 purposes in my overall kit.
alternatively if like me you are both ham fisted and lazy you can go to speedsterstoves and buy one ready made various sizes less than a fiver
Ooo. They have loads of interesting stuff too
I made one of these with the same Vaseline tin, and using my homemade pot stand with a flame height of 50 millimeters I boiled 400 mils of water in five minutes which is two minutes faster than the trangia. The Flame was huge but the kettle seemed to be in the sweet spot. I think this is an Outdoors only project.! th-cam.com/video/Hy4TU4Saxng/w-d-xo.html
To all the young people hoping to learn
Don’t prat about with a flint and steel it’s absolutely pathetic !
Disposable lighters are so cheep to buy just carry a few with you they last for a long time and are a lot more reliable than anything else
Remember it’s about heating water and food not about being Rambo .
This may sound like a stupid question but what is methylated spirits? Is it the same as lighter fluid? Sorry I'm from the US and we don't use the same terminology. No offense Neil. I really enjoyed the video 😁👍
It’s ethanol with added methanol and a nasty taste to make you sick if you try to drink it. Also called denatured alcohol.
@@Mat-kr1nf ok thanks man. Just got done reading up on it on Google. Thanks for your help. So I would use denatured alcohol instead right?
@@miked4152 exactly right Mike. Different names for the same stuff. 'methylated spirits' (UK) = 'denatured alcohol (US)
@@BG-rf1mx thanks my friend. Much appreciated
I live in the states as well, and I use gas line antifreeze, the yellow bottle of "Heet". You can get it at any gas station in the winter, or year round at Walmart, AutoZone, or any parts store.
Now that I've spent the big bucks for a full-sized twig stove, I want to one of these to make stealth tea at the beach.
The number of times mine gets used for a stealthy brew on a school field!
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Isn’t fibreglass really bad for lungs and basically all organs exposed to it? I’m just questioning the wisdom of having open fibreglass and being part of the flame that is so close to one’s food and brew. Of course, I could also be totally wrong.
I believe you can use other things, if you are worried about it. Have a go, if you find another alternative, please let me know
@@greencraft4783 yeah, I thought about using cotton, but I guess it’ll burn once alcohol runs out. There’s some reason why MonkeyBoy suggested fibreglass wool, I just can’t find out what it is. But a Vaseline tin sized stealth-camping stove able to burn 5-10min (per load) would be great.
By the way how much fuel does it consume in 5 minutes? I’m trying to lighten my setup as much as possible, although I cook meals rather than use MREs, and that’s why I have a gas stove (but 100ml can weights 195g)
@@greencraft4783 by the way, what do you use for fuel?
A common mistake made by you tubers, they look at the screen of their camera instead of the lens.
Plastic "tins" don't work 🤣🤪😅🙄