Stoves for Bushcraft, Backpacking and Fun. Wood vs. Gas vs. Paraffin vs. Spirit.
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- In this video I will go through the stoves I like to use when I'm camping, backpacking, canoeing and enjoying the outdoors. Im a bit obsessed with stoves and have collected a range of spirit stoves, vintage pressure stoves, gas stoves and folding wood burning twig stoves - but which ones are my favourite? I hope you enjoy the video and as always, thanks for watching!
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I'm going to show this video to my wife. Maybe when she sees someone actually has more stoves than I do, it'll take some pressure off me. Thanks for sharing!
Hahaha - I hope it helps your cause my friend! Can’t have too many stoves!! Atb, Simon
Tommy Jensen 😉😂🤣😬
Simon, a bloke in the woods agree
Have you ever tried making a J. Falk wood burning stove, Simon? I love mine and I can use my fancy feast, err actually the super cat stove, rather. Thanks for sharing and ATB...btw I just subbed 👍👍 blessings
Same goes for cast iron skillets for me.
One minute in and I’m already looking forward to this video. Such an array of stoves...
I too have an obsession for camp stoves. 😊 I enjoyed your description of the classic brass stoves.❤️With love from Minnesota, USA❤Thank you Simon for an entertaining video. 👍🏼🥰
Love my Optimus. Bought 45 years ago as a Boy Scout. Spent all my money on it.
Cheers George! That says all there is to say! A stove for life - I wonder if the ultra light super compact hi tech modern stoves will last so well? Atb, Simon
@George HIlbish
-- Me too ! I bought both the Optimus 8 ( Multi-Fuel ) & the Optimus 8R ( Alcohol Only ) , and also about 45 years ago . Love them both , but they're too bulky for backpacking . I normally carry a small Propane Stove in my pack , but I also carry a nylon satchel with a shoulder-strap and pick up select pieces of firewood and thoroughly dried Cow Pies from range cattle (high desert firewood) that I encounter along my hike . I have a compact Grill & Windscreen that I carry , and it only takes me a couple of minutes to have a campfire going .
Thank you !
I am not alone in this world 👍
I very rarely use anything but a wood gas stove and have for year's A tip simon if you pack your stove with twigs so they're on end light your fire on the top so it burns down as soon as it starts to gassify then start to cook on it ,I've had 45 minutes cook time regularly without having to add fuel .
Thank you Tony, that is a superb bit of advise - I’m gonna try that technique - cheers!
Tony 1690Very good, one other thing is that you can make your own wood gas stove. There are many youtubes available that show you different methods. I would prefer them since you're not weighted down with fuel.
Tony 1690.
Good advice for the wood gas stoves, 👍👍👍
the smaller the pieces of wood you put in to preload it the better, you can also burn wood pellets in it . (Keep some in a dry bad in the car in case it’s a really wet day)
I have had over an hour burn time when filled to the brim with the pellets.
On long canoe trips I take a Kelly Kettle and a gasifier twig stove. The 1.2 litre Kelly will get you a big mug of tea and a freeze dried meal. The gasifier will fry a fish or cook a conventional pot and you can huddle over it under a reflective tarp when it starts snowing and windbounds you nothing but scrub willow for shelter. It has kept off hypothermia. I bring a large clear drybag that I fill with dry, broken down branches early in the trip and keep for emergencies like that.
If I'm with other people, it's basically a two burner stove setup and can produce a lot of hot food fast.
Let’s say comprehensive. We won’t say obsessive. Just teasing. I’m a fan, Simon! Cheers!
Hi, Simon, I love your channel so much! My father is a crafts man, but he only has a tiny working space at home in China. I learned some woods survival skills from you and I believe some day I will enter the woods with my father, enjoying nature life. Thank you!
Hi Ginny! Thank you - glad to have been a help, I hope you have your time in the woods with your father soon! Take care and all the best, Simon
Lovely video!! It inspired me to get my hands on a pressure stove myself... just obtained a Primus No. 210. Beautiful, historical piece of equipment. Just spent 3 days scrubbing and polishing it to infinity, great fun.
Stoves are everything 😍
Seven and counting. And I'm a newbee.
I love those old Primus stoves too. The older things just work and were built to last
Glad to see some other folk with a passion for stoves. I've yet to convince my wife that I need ALL of my 15 kerro stoves plus 3 wood burning stoves not to mention 5 or 6 gas stoves and the odd fire pit. Nice video with correct instruction on how to light a pressure stove. Thanks for sharing.
Cheers David! Sounds like you need therapy more than me with that collection hahaha! Love the old pressure stoves! Atb,Simon
03:30 and insomnia rules. So I’m revisiting this one, not because it will put me to sleep but I am now totally relaxed. Love this one, it reflexs my spare bedroom.
BIG THANKS. Your Videos are Great.
Never Boring & always To The Point.
Great Job Simon.Gary from Ohio,USA.THANKS
Trangia has the positive side that it works everywhere, in any weather. You can use it in -20 celsius, full snowstorm or whatever. It just work. Thats more then you can say about gas stoves.
Thanks Erik - I totally agree! Nothing to go wrong and with the frying pan on top it is weather proofed! Cheers, Simon
@@simonablokeinthewoods
A'Men Simon
I would have to disagree. Alcohol stoves, including the Trangia, are an absolute nightmare to use in even the slightest of winds (even with a windscreen), yet alone a snowstorm lol. Plus you can not simmer with these things at all. With a decent canister stove, you'll get much more efficiency and cooking time for your money... for colder temperatures or higher altitudes there are white gas stoves. Alcohol stoves are great because they are quiet, and fuel is easier to get. Plus it's easy to make your own. Fantastic for daily use, for proper hiking and mountaineering no way...
@@kevinklein4748 I have used my Trangia in full-on snowstorm in Lapplands mountains without the tiniest of problems. Not once have I seen any trouble when used correctly. Mind you, I am using the alcohol burner that is the original for Trangia, not some insert connected to a gas bottle. And yes, you can easily use it to simmer or even just keep the coffee warm. Use the lid with a movable hatch for that.
@@erikgranqvist3680 not sure what you define as a "full-on snowstorm", but in the Scottish Highlands that easily means 60-100mph gusts and hail the size of baseballs... being even higher up north, I would assume that Lapland has similar types of storms, so I heavily doubt that anyone in their right mind would be setting up their cookware in that type of weather. One would probably be well advised to retreat to their storm shelter or tent if that happens, and with the lack of flame control I would personally not use any type of alcohol stove in there. Theoretically you can use the simmer cap, yes... however, this is just a cap that you can tilt to cut off a part of the flame, you won't have anywhere near the control and precision that you have with a quality canister or white gas stove... alcohol stoves produce a very large flame once the alcohol has started to vaporise, so no chance I would use this for cooking inside a vestibule...each to their own though. The Trangia is a nice stove, sure... however, just like any alcohol stove, these things work very well in low temperatures - they are not exactly known to be the most efficient stoves in high winds. You can nest them inside a container to get around this, but even then you'll have some type of air flow, and boiling times will be substantially longer.
Hi Simon, if you flip the fire box tray on the Gasifiers to raise the bottom you can get a spirit burner or solid fuel in there no worries, works nicely and protects the flame as well as the full size Trangia for me! (I have the Lixada one with the triangular pot stands)
Cheers Matthew, I’ve learnt quite a bit about those gasifiers since doing this video - haven’t tried with a spirit burner yet - thanks mate.
Yes I went to comment on the gasifier stoves. You can use alcohol, pellets and fuel tablets. They are bulkier but they are totally multi fuel.
No better video to watch on a wet winter Sunday over breakfast!
Simon, thanks for this great video. I've learned a lot from you today. I've been watching other videos that deal with the wood gasification stoves, and I'm not sure that you're loading them properly. What I've seen others do is this: load the stove with twigs all standing UP, and light the stove from the TOP. This starts the gasification process. If you do this properly, you get a very long burn, and you might not need to add any more fuel while you're cooking. One video I watched demonstrated the stove with wood pellets and the result was an amazingly long burn.
Thanks again for a great video. Cheers from New Haven Connecticut, USA.
Thank you for the info! This is very helpful for a beginner like me 😊
Thank you very much it was an informative well balanced and somewhat neutral video. It gave me a great inside in the variety and I learned about pressure stoves, I never came across them.
Thanks for the comparison, it helps a lot!
Fun video! And great info too. Thank you for sharing!
Beautiful collection they all serve a purpose depending on the necessity.
Nice collection. I've owned at least one of each of them over the years. In the old days when hunting with my dad we used a single burner coleman stove that was made for the US military, complete with a 2 piece carry case.
Fantastic info... Thanks Simon.
Good job. Enjoyed the instructional versions you have.
I must say that I admire your appreciation of the older stoves. I love a good origin story, and did not know that you can use paraffin lamp oil in some of them until now.
Thank you for the knowledge.
As regards the wood gasifying stoves, they're re meant to have fuel inserted vertically, packed tight, then lit (and burnt) from the top. This should give a minimum of 20 Minutes burn time, easily enough to boil water or even cook a meal.
Thanks Malcolm - I’m new to wood gas stoves, so really appreciate the tips and advise! - I’ll give it a try that way cheers, Simon
Simon, a bloke in the woods no problem mate. I don't have one of those brass beauties, but I agree, they look wonderful. I think I'm going to have to keep an eye out for one. Car boot sales maybe?
Malcolm Smith car boots are definitely a good source, otherwise eBay, most of mine were eBay buys! Damned click finger!!
With your beautiful array of lamps and gorgeous cookers in the woods you live a magical life my friend.
Very informative video. Thanks for uploading
Twig stoves are my favorite.
Me too Abe! Atb
Hi Simon. i love woodburners - especially my kelly kettle. great video. best regards - Markus
Cheers Markus! Yep, a kelly is on my ‘future stoves I must buy’ list haha.
I bought a Kelly Kettle after I saw the Queen using one in the Highlands. They are SO efficient it is hard to believe. A good investment.
Beautiful stoves!
Very good! Fantastic!
That's a real nice over view of differents stoves. The Firebox and other Wood burning stoves are certainly the best option because of their versatility and the pleasure of the flavor wood can gives to your foods but in some situations like fire ban or parks & reserves you can't use them. So Spirit stoves can become a real interesting option and as you show you even make them. But in our cold Canadian winters white gas/ parrafin/ coleman fuel stoves are just what it takes. They work so Great in lower temperatures or in altitude. I have an old optimus 111 and à Meva from the Czechoslovakia army and I love those roarers, you can't beat those, They are so powerfull. Canister gas stoves are to me useless in winter and to expensive to run. Thanks for your Awsome video and I will certainly recommand it to people who want a good reference to make up their mind regarding what kind of stoves They can select. 👍👏👏👏👏
Thank you! Yes, I agree with you about using paraffin/white gas stoves at altitude and cold temps - I spent some time in the Norwegian mountains some years ago, the Optimus 111 was the stove of choice then, methylated spirits just didn’t want to know!! But like you said, wood stoves are my day to day favourite! Cheers, Simon.
Awesome video. You got a new subscriber. Greetings from Andreas
Thank you Andreas! Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for the sub! Atb, Simon
Another great educational video.
I love my home made twig stove made from a B and M cutlery drainer, cut a window inbetween the row of holes and away you go, all my pots fit on top without the need for a pot stand and as you said I can also use my Lixada alcohol stove inside as it makes a great windbreak.
There Ya Go Bucko! So good to be back again! Greatly Enjoyed This BIG TIME! As Always Buddy, Blessings from Oregon! ... Mike.
I can recommend a self pressurizing petrol stoves like for example Primus 71. A bit simpler as there is no pump ☺️
I love my svea 123.
Most enjoyable thanks :) Good wishes.........Les
Thanks Les! Atb, Simon
Another great vid, thank you 👍
Simon ! Always looking forward to your outdoor knowledge! Thanks
I like the wood burning stoves best. There's more options for fuel (wood, pine cones, pellets, charcoal, etc) as well as using them with a spirit burner or commercially available solid fuels. Plus using wood mimicks a camp fire which can also help control the number of flying insects around.
Cheers David! I’m with you there, wood stoves are my number one - nothing quite like a real fire! Atb,Simon
Im glad im not the only Stove-aholic haha, loving the pressure stoves.. I don't have one myself but have been tempted in the past... I may have to do a 'response' video to this mate ;) .. at least the ones that never get touched would see some use then haha
Haha! I’d love to see a response video mate - I want to see those shiny new stoves of yours in use!! 😁
Kent every now and then I see pressure stoves (the old ones) on the car boot... If I do I will get you one pal... They sell very cheap
THANKS I ENJOY Keep the good work UP!!
Nice collection of stoves. Great video! 😎👍
Your Butane stove is limited to spring, summer, fall use. In the winter, Butane refuses to evaporate in the cold, making it real “iffy.”
Yes, same goes for altitude. The butane stoves don’t get much use to be honest, I’d much rather use wood or alcohol when wood isn’t available or permitted. 👍
Dale, camping cylinders available in the US are a 90% butane/10% propane mix which aids in the ignition/combustion process during cold conditions. I now live in the Philippines and most replacement camp stove cylinders available here that are imported from Korea are the same 90/10 mix. Also, I questioned my gas delivery guy about what mix is used to refill our cooking gas cylinders. He responded that it is indeed the 90% butane/10% propane mice used in camp cylinders. The majority of the time, cold weather is not an issue here in the tropics but trust me, it can be up in the mountains of places like Baguio.
I have successfully burned alcohol and wood pellets in my gasifires
Cheers! Yes, a few people have recommended pellets with hand sanitizer gel to get it started I’ll be giving it a go - thanks! Atb, Simon
The Trangia or Esbit burner works perfect too. Just tinker with the perfect high. Btw, nice collection 👍
@@simonablokeinthewoods If you do use wood pellets in your gasifiers here's a great tip for a better burn:. Take a metal mesh sink strainer and cut the outer rim off of it and discard it. Take the mesh part and flatten it out then cut it in a round circle to fit inside your gasifier stove on top of the grate. Doing this keeps the pellets from falling down through the stove's grate and prevents a clog from happening. I do this when using my SOLO Stove Titan, my favorite gasifier stove. Also, using this tip you can burn charcoal too so it opens up even more cooking options and favors 🥰😎🍀
Love the collection
Sweet set-ups. I made a few penny & hobo stoves myself. They serve me well when I'm moto-camping.
Thanks a lot excellent video again
Loved it Simon, many thanks for all this info mate, I know what I want now. Keep up the good work....cheers.
Really cool 😎 Stoves 👍
I love your videos. I watch you and Andy from Kent Survival all the time. Thank you for all of your useful information and tips.
This is a good one to watch on a cold wintry night. Making me feel warm and cosy. Great Info as always. Thanks.
Awesome old stoves!
Thank you for explaining the different camping stoves available 😀
Great video enjoyed the video like the video nice day for filming like the stoves
Thanks Andrew! Take care, Simon
Enjoyed the video! Thanks for sharing!! Really nice collection
Thank you for this thorough demonstration.
And... another great video! Thanks, Simon! :)
Thanks Linnee! Take care, Simon
very good video and some great tips ...thank u so much...
Another great video Simon....thanks for sharing
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. Atb, Simon
Just the discussion needed to compare, thanks well done
Great Show.
Answered a lot of questions. Thanks!
Cheers Neil, glad it helped! Atb, Simon
Nice video. Thx good spread of types
Thanks, this was really interesting and educational - I learnt a lot.
Brilliant mate 👍
Great vid,and very informative reviews
Excellent vid! Thanx for taking the time to make that. Well done sir.👍👍👍
Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it! Atb, Simon
I'm a bit of a camping stove tragic as well.
My main love is the folding firebox. When I bought it my Chinese wife took one look at it, rolled her eyes and shook her head and said "Silly!!!!"
We had a holiday in New Zealand and I pulled it out and got a fire going. She pushed me out of the way and took over! Two weeks holiday, one restaurant meal and one cup of coffee (they wouldn't give us the keys to the toilet (not a problem for me, haha, but a problem for the wife) unless we bought something. So it really paid for itself.
I have an Optimus knock off Romanian Army stove that cost me a King's ransom and a Vietnam era pressure stove, the same as we were issued with in the Aussie Army. For the life of me I can't get them going.
I can't use the Folding Firebox at the shooting range where I am a Range Officer 2-3 times a week, so I use a 360 Degree Furno Brand tiny gas stove, but with an adaptor which allows me to use the cheap butane canisters off the big gas stove in your video. That stove by the way handles the cooking of most of the third world, they are a cheap, reliable unit. Just don't cover with a big pot and if you must, check the temperature of the canister cover regularly.
Another great video, thanks.
Good to see that I'm not the only one obsessed with camp stoves.
caught up to this one today - I have been looking for a survival type, multi-fuel type stove - so this information was greatly helpful - thanks
Another very informative video. Thanks.
Thanks Dan! 👍
I feel exactly the same about my collection, great video 👍😎👌
Trangias are so good. Love mine. Great upload 👍👍
Fantastic video!
Nicely done, some old school gems in there.
Cheers! The old ones are the good ones! Atb, Simon
New vid!!!
That's just made my day Simon.
Hahaha - cheers Colin! Enjoy! Simon
Thanks, this video was very helpful...
Nice show thanks
That's an Awesome collection.👍👍😎🇺🇸
Thanks Kelly - it’s a work in progress haha! That’s the problem with collections, they are never complete!! Atb, Simon
I have all kinds of stoves too, and my most favorite are the twig stoves, then alcohol stoves, although when we are under fire restrictions you can only use propane. So I got a couple of those too. In any case I enjoy your videos and like to see what is happening across the pond. Thanks Simon for all the great videos.
Very helpfull ! Thank you ! ,
Simon, a quality review of a great stove collection and the best thing is you use them all! ATVB, Michael
Thanks Michael - I love them, the pressure stoves are a bit temperamental and heavy for normal use, but I do give them a good run frequently and make a nice cup of tea at the least! Atb, Simon
Good stuff mate. Thanks. I'm into the firebox & bushbox myself.
Good old folding wood stoves - can’t beat them! Atb, Simon
Holy crap! Love the brick stay stand and then foil shield, you are a genius!
you could use metal tent pegs, if you're carrying them anyway.
Desperately trying to a find a camping / bushcraft / outdoors channel that wasn’t trying to rescue me from the apocalypse or preach to me the value of a $400.00 knife. I watched a few videos from your channel and now I’m hooked. Outstanding work. New subscriber.
Great job on this one! I totally agree on the wood burners. Love my twig stove above all my stoves.
Good work!
Ahhhh so shiny! Love the old pressure stoves.
Can’t beat a shiny stove haha! Cheers, Simon
Hi Simon thanks for another brilliant video. Learning so much from you! Keep 'em coming! Atb Pops
Thanks Pops! 😁 all the best, Simon
Simon
My friend - Thank You for a very informative video!
Educational!
Blessings!
Thanks David! My pleasure as always! Atb, Simon
I like the twig stove an have made the one with a qt paint can & progesso soup can. It has made some excellent coffee! Love your collection!
I have one I made from a bean can..works great and I have a stainless steel cup that fits right into it..nice and compact
Great stove-aholic vid :) enjoyed that !
I agree about all your points on the stoves, although not used a kerosene cooker for years now...
Always liked the honey stove.... easy to clean too !
Thing I love about the meths stoves is the silence...less soot....and I like the smell :) evokes many good memories ....
All the best !
Great video ! I agree with you on the twig stoves have used them for more than forty years !
Cheers Shawn, simple, free to run, small and lightweight, environmentally friendly, can’t go wrong! 🔥 Atb, Simon
What a great collection of stoves!!
I'm jealous!!
Haha - thanks - it’s a serious addiction! Atb, Simon
Simon, a bloke in the woods
I have a few myself... But none of the pump/pressure kind, mostly twig stoves, alcohol stoves, 2 of the bigger butane stoves and 2 canister stoves. The Firebox and my DIY (IKEA) stove are used the most, they stay in my truck!
cillaloves2fish -sounds like you’ve got It covered! The pressure stoves are very nice and have that olde worlde nostalgic thing, but they are temperamental and heavy! I love them though!