Rinseless Wash - The Unspoken Truth!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2017
- SCOTT WITH DALLAS PAINT CORRECTION & AUTO DETAILING IN PLANO TEXAS TALKS ABOUT RINSELESS WASH AND HOW THEY WORK
www.dallaspaintcorrection.com
Products Used:
1. Optimum (NR2010Q) No Rinse Wash & Shine - 32 oz. - amzn.to/3cQeZai
2. Optimum (NRWW2012Q) No Rinse Wash & Wax - 32 oz. - amzn.to/33eOIyi
3. Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine, 128 oz. - amzn.to/33cA5ew - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I presoak each panel with ONR solution to get it working on the panel before I ever even touch with a towel. I use wash mitts instead of towels and use 3 - 4 per vehicle.
Quick tip, which works for me. Put ONR in a pump sprayer and use high quality micro fiber towels. Yes, I may go through a few more towels but I've never had an issue with it scratching the surface.
T G what would you consider high quality micro fiber towels?
Great for maintenance washing. It kind of screws up the towels though
@@anthonycontreras9251 something like the Eagle Edgeless from The Rag Company. Scott's towels are durable and very high quality as well.. 👍✌
What I do and get great results. How do you get transmission fluid on a vehicle?
dude the details and information you know is GOLD. I cant say how much i appreciate your videos. I always loved detailing but everyone was so quiet about what they use, and their techniques. Appreciate all the info.
Thanks Scott for all the time you take to make these videos. It’s greatly appreciated, I have a learned a lot from your thorough approach and explanations. Keep up the great work and thanks again for all the education you provide. Best of luck to you and may you have a prosperous 2018.
As everyone else mentioned , quality information and facts that are really known about the product. Thanks for taking the time to inform the TH-cam community!
Scott, big thanks for all the detail you put into a video's. It's really cool that you choose to share your personal experience maintaining cars paint finish. Really wish the auto makers would work on improving the auto paint process they use. I'm a real fanatic about keeping up my rides paint finish, to me it's so important, I despise a neglected car.
Scott! I don't ever get bored of your videos even though it's very long, it's all worth it because it's full of boss information on auto detailing keep it up boss!!
Another great review my friend! Never even thought of it that way. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for clarity, easier ways of doing it right . Keep up the good work Scott much appreciated👍😎
Scott; whenever I use ONR, I'll mix as shown on the directions with distilled water and then in the solution bucket, I'll put in a dozen of clean microfiber towels. Use one per panel then it goes in another dry bucket to wash the towels later. Never dunk the towel back in the solution bucket after washing the panel. So far so good. Yes, a lot of towels to wash but the paint is good. Just my procedure since I've got a lot of towels.
It seems a good way ! What kind of microfiber towels do you use ?
Thanks for this idea! I have a new car with new Ceramic Coating I want to take the best care of.
Another good way is just folding the towel in 4ths and using new towels. Then after they have been used for paint I use them for interior detailing
Your distilled water is key...all of the junk in people's tap water is causing the issues
I'm going to listen to you. Your the only guy that tells the truth instead of what I want to hear. I had a problem with water spots and I spent a ton of money on products that don't work even though you said the water spots are etched into the paint and the only resolution is wet sanding. I guess you have earned the right to say "I told you so". Thanks for the honesty. I'm listening to you now.
Scott...another great video...there are no holes in your rhetoric...your opinion and analysis is straightforward and sensible...and besides, try to get two doctors to agree on anything!...you keep talking and we realists will keep listening !...love you man !
Ive personally had good luck with the wolfgang waterless wash and their waterless wash mitt. Soak it in the 5 gallon bucket for a few minutes and wash a section at a time then rub the mitt on the grit guard and wring it out. Repeat. Use a waffle weave drying towel over a ultra plush since they are notorious for smearing and leaving streaks. I only use an ultra plush towel after the car has been dried to get any streak or smear i may have created. Hope this helps.
Hey Scott. Im a big fan of Rinseless wash. Im using ONR and Ech2o and im very happy with this. Love your Videos. Great job. Greetz from Germany - Berlin City. Keep going !
hello Germany!...much love to you and Germany:)...thanks so much
Scott you are SPOT ON! I’ve been noticing the day after my car’s been through rain, I ONR wash with the big red sponge. But the sponge accumulates oily soiling that is only removed with PowerClean. Never thought to paint prep since this critical step is NOT mentioned in professional detailing for a “weekly wash.” You’re the man!
True story ????
Good video, great advice how to properly use ONR and the after wash care. Love how you talk with your hands. :-) Do you think the quality of the microfiber towels used during the ONR process makes a difference? Would a better quality towel with higher GSM make a big difference in reducing scratches vs the ones available at costco or sams.
Great video Scott! I myself use onr for wash solution, clay lube, and glass cleaner as a maintenance wash only....not intended to wash heavily soiled vehicles...if u do wash your car exclusively with onr go through the touchless wash first...
Love the way you look through the fog of detailing marketing and strip it back with bucket fulls of common sense 👍🇬🇧
I wash my black truck weekly with onr wash and wax. pre spray, microfiber noodle mit, seperate rinse bucket. dry gently with a platinum pluffle and spray of meguiars spray wax. looking great and swirl free after a year and a half. works for me!
JP, that’s impressive. I have been considering ONR, but drive a black Escalade and have been hesitant to move forward. Thanks for the feedback
@@curtsmith9811 scared of that soft gm paint😂
You get those results because you pre rinse your vehicle! A true water less wash you obviously wouldn’t pre rinse your vehicle that’s when the scratching can happen with waterless washes or ONR. If you choose to pre rinse then use ONR you will be fine.
So when using a waterless product should i always pre rinse then while drying use the product? My car is in my pic any tips for keeping it protected and clean? Plz help
I foam cannon my truck a few times a year and use ONR every week or so (don't cringe, ha!) and love it. For me it's just so much quicker and convenient. Also, glad to see you give Garry Dean a shout out because I prefer his method over what Optimum actually recommends. Thanks for the video and appreciate the time you put into these.
Optimum always told to use microfiber towels to wash your vehicle (way before Garry Dean). It is only lately they come up with Big Red Sponge.
Sherukka True, but the "Gary Dean" method is you never put a used towel back in the clean solution to re-wet. You pre-soak 5-6 towels and always use a fresh un contaminated towel.
Nooby Vapor Yeah, that's true but I always thought about it that way when I first time read the instructions on the ONR bottle. :)
2022 Harley Davidson my clear coat is so soft no sure it’s even there anymore 😂😂. New quality todays world absolutely a joke.
Awesome video.... I use ONR exclusively on my tesla model s and I use it on my wife’s Kia Optima. I will use the methods and products you showed here. I think you just solved a few issues I have been having with using the ONR exclusively. Thanks man!
You take spitting facts to another level..
Hey Scott,
I solved my problem. #1 I put a coating on my vehicle and that fixed the washed induced marring. #2 I use a drying aid such as Opti-Seal or C2V3 when drying and that seemed to completely eliminate the buffing that I had to do.
It was because the entire truck has been reclear'd and the new clear isn't the hardest stuff in the world. I'll make a video about everything soon enough.
thats cool...and it makes sense because your make typically doesn't have a soft clear...auto body shop clear can drive you nuts sometimes..lol..im happy you found a solution and love talking to you:)
Is "AFTER WASH" from chem guys a good drying agent, or what one do you recommend. One that is not a sealer.
I've been using Garry Dean's Infinite Use Detail Juice as a drying aid. Much cheaper than After Wash.
Hmmm, 6yrs, where is your video 😢
@@paulr5027 I sold that truck 4yrs ago.
"I get tramendous amounts of compliments of people at grocery stores" hilarious and informative for real though
Hi Scott, love your video.
You mentioned paint prep, is that isopropyl alcohol?
Great and informative videos. Thanks so much!
Scott, can you use the paint prep spray on ceramic coatings? Thanks for the informative video.
Hi Scott,just found your segment on youtube. I found it very informative.
one question regarding the Paint Prep ,will it remove the polish ?
I wish you
Linked the products.. what is the product you
Sprayed after onr?
Scott, good point to not rely on ONR for overall protection of the paint time after time.
I wonder if running a durable sealant cured underneath would address the issue with using a waterless wash on soft clearcoat. It also occurs to me that there are warnings about certain waxes known to degrade clearcoat when applied directly.
Amigo saludos desde el salvador quiero decirte que eres el mejor y te lo digo humildemente ...no me pierdo ninguno de tus videos eres real amigo saludos cuidate
Scott, would you mind to list the products that you are using below you videos? Sometimes it is difficult for this viewer to remember the product names. Thanks for all the education and God bless.
Good advice. What is "paint prepping"?
great information Scott ty 4 sharing
hello Scott
do I need to dilute the paint prep? is full strength bad for the paint if I want to use it for wiping off polish while detailing?
Scott great videos. It's like standing over your shoulder while you work. What is a good dilution ratio for Isopropal alcohol to use as a paint prep. I can get 70% readily available locally. Would you recommend something else? Thanks.
Hi Scott, have several questions about the Dupli-color wax and grease remover ... where do you get yours and how much does it cost? how does it compare to kleanstrip prep-all? what is the chemical composition? anything to watch out for while using?
I presoak my panels too for added lubrication and I put lots of coats of protection for added lubricity.
thanks,,, never thought of the street dirt I was never sure of the or method
yeah, I think you're supposed to spray it with the mixture as well as having the towel soaked in it. But what you said about certain brands having a "soft" clear coat, I'm sure plays a factor.
Thanks for the info
Hi Scott, love your videos, if I have a seal , would the grease and grime stick to the sealer or the paint? I get confused about sealers, do they repeal the grease and grime from the paint , I would assume they are bit fight the grime and grease from sticking to the car
What about a 2 bucket system when doing rinseless?
Very good video lots of info. Thanks.
Hey Scott, that customer you referenced, the black car with a two step... what wash routine would you recommend for someone who wants a safe option, when compared with the ONR process?
This seems like a lot of work, I'd rather just wash my car every week at a coin wash then do this. Great video as always, I was considering using rinseless wash every other week to save time on washing weekly, but this helped me rethink that.
What do you use to take off the highway contamination. Thanks keep up the great work ✌️👍🇨🇦
Mastersons mild clay bar is the best with a good Detail or Luber spray.
A 5 yr old video just solved my problem. Who would've thunk it. I love rinseless wash but it does streak. I couldn't figure out how to solve that so I tried the IPA and boom. Whatever allowed you to figure this out I'm glad for it and glad you passed it along. Thank you. I'm still new to the business so any tricks I can learn to be better is worth it!! Thanks again!!
Are you using it in the sun? Because mine doesn’t streak at all. Presoak, wash, presoak again, dry with additional drying aid
@@schmidtygt some people are just starting out in the biz and don't have resources to buy every product available on the market. Rinseless wash does streak. I found a way to solve it for now.
@@detailgrandma22 my process costs less than buying an ipa…. It takes rinseless wash and more rinseless wash. Additional drying aid is the only additive and that’s solely for slickness since the rinseless is the drying aid. Just re-mist the surface before you dry. I’m a college kid who just does my own detailing so I don’t have access to everything under the sun either
Well what the hell…now I need to do another step! What is “paint prep”. I was getting ready to ordered some ONR, so now I need paint prep too. Where do I find that? By the way which ONR would you pick up the shine or the wax version? Thx Scott! (I think). 🥴😁
Scott, would something like meguier last touch along with onr be a good combination? thanks for the great videos! I did buy super clean I love it.
I have Meguiars last touch, I dilute it and use for claybarring and also use it as paint prep. ONR and last touch going be my next combo.
What is the difference between running a wash mitt (or whatever you use) over the car the traditional soap/ water way that is different from using onr that would cause less scratches? I've used onr for years, and although you remove the dirt differently, initially you are still "rubbing" dirt off your car.
Your thoughts?
Thank you very much love the channel.
My opinion on the difference is that with a "normal" way with soap and water, is that you are going to PRE spray the vehicle BEFORE you actually begin to wash it. All that MAJOR dirt is taken off with your high pressure pre rinse. Then of coarse you will PROBABLY pre-soak the car and rinse again, Then you get into the actual washing of the car with your sponge or mitt, of course using the proper equipment to be sure all the dirt runs to the bottom of the bucket UNDER your bucket grid protector. With a water-less wash (if done INCORRECTLY) you are basically just diving in with a sponge which is akin to using sand paper.
Love your vids. Just subbed. Could I use hybrid ceramic wax afterward the onr? Or would you stick with the spray wax and call it good?
Would love to see how you recommend maintaining a black GMC Sierra and by the way I live in MN.
Can Chemical Guys wipe out surface cleanser replace the duplicolor paint prep?
I have 2 Japanese cars and never had that problem with the ONR. After a few years of ownership both cars have minimal swirls. The most important thing is being gentle and applying almost no pressure. Also if the car is heavily soiled I pre spray ONR onto the panel.
They say to "appply" the solution, then dry off.
When I started doing it that way, it made the process much faster.
The only time I had ONR fail on me was on a track car that had racing fuel residue, and tire residue all over it.
I had to use glass cleaner on the film, and goof off on the tire rubber..
When I tried the ONR it didn't do anything but make a mess.
Hey ,Scott
Keep up the good job 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I know this video is 4 years old, but I think it was fantastic! I just purchased a brand new 2021 Sierra 2500HD in black. I have been using ONR for years and been pretty happy with it, but I have some concerns now after watching your video. Any chance we can talk privately or answer my questions here?
1. Is ONR going to be bad for my black Sierra?
2. Does having a ceramic coat change the way I should wash?
3. Does the 2 bucket method with ONR provide some benefits?
4. Are there other products I should look at instead of ONR?
I was thinking the same, we need a comparison between just plain cold water and ONR
Wow, these videos are awesome.
So question: After my last wash about 3 weeks ago, I applied Collinite 845. Since then, I’ve driven in the rain once or twice. Would the best approach for a rinseless wash be to follow the steps you’ve outlined: ONR, decontam, dry, and then re-apply wax? I was under the impression that Collinite 845 lasts up to six months so I’m just confused on how often I should be waxing after washing, and if I ought to decontam after every wash and re-apply wax again. Still pretty new to detailing, so TIA for any responses.
Would you recommend this method on a ceramic coated car? I do know why one would not use wax on a coated car, but it still seems like a good step for this specific process(?). Also, I'm only talking about doing this infrequently, on weeks I don't have a lot of time. (I'm not a detailer. I'm 100% just a guy who just started doing my own washes as of this month)
So what kind of pro active cleaning do you recommand after a 2 step correction on black paint ?? You didn't say it !? (Please answer this^^)
Your next step is sealant
Thank you, just found this and is beneficial
You make some good points, but I cringe when I see you use a dry microfiber towel to dry with. Getting it wet and ringing it out will provide some lubrication to the drying process.
You and Pan are the only two detailers I listen to. Awesome job!
Is paint prep safe to use on ceramic coated vehicles?
What is the paint prep you’re using, can you provide a link please?
Scott, question.
What if water/ a “Rinseless wash” was not an issue? Could I use ONR as a “ Scrubless wash”? Just spray ONR on a bottle pressure sprayer , let it dwell on the paint for like a minute and pressure was the dirt off?
Won’t the paint prep remove the waxes or sealants on your vehicle?
Scott you should do a vid where you talk about your process for different cars and situations
If your paint surface is waxed, rinseless wash will be a joy to use.
Are these additional products (the spray wax) ok for ceramic coatings?
Hi can you tell me what is a paint prep, and which brand would you recommend. I'm looking to do a 2 step correction on my 2016 Charger, and I believe you stated to use a paint prep before a 2 step paint correction is done. I have very minor spider lines on my car. I wash it at least twice a week if not more and it is always keeped in my garage.
Yes!
Where did you get your paint prep mix? I only saw on amazon in aerosol spray can. Is that the correct one?
Hey its great in January in the garage. Especially with WAY bucket of hot water.
I have learned so much from watching your videos.
When does your book come out again?
So what would you use on soft black paint?
After washing with ONR, can't you just Force Air Dry the car with a Blower of some sort (leaf)? That way you dont have to worry about scurbbing hard to remove them and potential scratch the paint?
If you apply a detailer while the car is wet with onr, will it react to the mixture?
Very smart observation scott. I agree with all you said.
What product are you using to remove oil and grime?
I’ve heard ONR is suppose to act like a drying aid. Could it be more difficult to buff if there’s 1 oz of solution per gallon of water, as apposed to the recommended 0.5 oz per gallon of water?
Shouldn't ONR be fine if you pre-wash with foam etc, before hand wash if you're concerned about grease?
So are you saying that 2 bucket method is superior to this method? What id you put a little ONR in the wash bucket?
how often should I clean my car to maintain it ? what is the optimal ?
Thanks for the great video!
Hope all is well.
Warm Regards.
Scott can you or do you have a video on soft black paint. I'm always getting defects when drying.
A good tip is after wash the car with all steps pre wash and two buckets you dry it with a microfiber towel but instead of wipe tap it it prevent from marr i have one soft Black paint ;)
Scott like your videso, but if you're using regular water that has a Total Dissolved Solids of >208, with the solids in the water yes I suppose you get scratches if what you say about water is causing the problem. But if you use Distilled Water, RO water, or Deionized water where the TDS is now gone during distillation; would you still get TDS that will cause marring or scarring of the paint?
hey Scott,
if you don't mind me asking where do you find the duplicolor paint prep?? I can only find in aerosol
i find it at o'reily auto parts in a plastic 32oz container for 8.99....hope that helps my friend
scott how about dunking 3 or 4 nice microfiber towel into a gallon of distilled water and onr solution fold them into four's and use a clean side of it on every different panel and never get that solution dirty oily is that a good idea to use
I may be a bit obsessive, but I use a clean side every wipe.
Is a 2018 Toyota Tundra paint surface safe for regular ONR use?! Thx
I want to use a auto blower to avoid squirls marks is this okay any down size in doing this?
what would you recommend for a black vehicles to be proactive? I have a Honda ridgeline
Scott - I have an infiniti and have been using Dri wash. What’s your opinion on that waterless brand. It’s super expensive and I’m looking for some new that might be better on my type of coat. I have soft top coat I guess. Help please.
Start from 15:07 for the final summary if you're short on time.
Apologies if I've got this wrong but the problem can be solved by using multiple microfibre cloths/mitts instead of returning the dirty cloth into the ONR bucket and solution -then there's no oil slick which you would be spreading across your car if you try to rinse one cloth into the ONR bucket.
Hey Scott thank you for another information video! Can you please put up a link for the duplicolor paint prep? Thank you!
-T
AutoZone/O'Reily's has it. 9$ for a quart, or 20$ for a gallon of it.
Thanks Trent!! Have a great weekend!
cheftonyx1 The complete name is Duplicolor wax and greaser remover. It doesn't come in a spray bottle. You'll need to do that yourself. Hope that helps.
Tony Sommer haha yeah! Thanks Tony, i went to o'reily and they were confused at first but i figured it would be the grease and wax remover! It was 8.99 before tax :) thanks to Trent and Scott as well! I was running low on carpro eraser
cheftonyx1 I only thought confused O'Reilly's employees were here in Ohio. haha I ran into the same situation.
I made the same mistake until I realized that I was missing one important step, you need to first spray rinseless wash on the panel, let it work and soften the dirt, after which you can wipe with a wet sponge or microfiber with minimal pressure
Matt over at the Obsessed Garage youtube channel just went to the Optimum training seminar. If you haven't watched these videos yet, I highly recommend doing so. Ivan at Optimum goes through his wash process with ONR.
I find it funny that they recommend pre-spraying the car with ONR before washing, and Ivan even said that powerwashing beforehand is ideal on a filthy car.
yes they understand their product has limitations but thats fine..it was never meant to replace free flowing water but to help with cars that have light dust and dirt and for those in water restricted areas...but its still a great product!
Charles Cook no different than spraying a car down before a soap wash. Soap wash has limitations apparently...
@@LoveLikeaHurricane right lmao idfk why these ppl comparing pressure wash then soap vs just ONR. Pressure wash a dirty vehicle no matter the method.. If done to both, ONR is the superior cleaner.
@@whitegoodman7465better to spray on a good cleaner first and let it do the work. On either kind of wash. Rinseless helps give a spot-free dry though.