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Just a general hint regarding the squeal etc normal inductors and coils squeal when they are being stressed. most common cause of stress is to much current being passed through the coil, inductor etc. in other words its being stressed overload. But the big clue you gave was when you tapped the power supply and the squeal stopped. That points to a dry joint some where in the PSU. also because you have pointed out the console has suffered over heating this can cause components that have a poor connection to be intermittent because of thermal expansion and contraction . This type of fault is the biggest type of failure in the whole electronics industry. 1st lesson i learned doing repairs was HEAT Kills electronics 2 power surges Kill Electronics 3 static discharge Kills Electronic.4 incorrect voltages Kills electronics and can manifest its self with no end of strange faults and effects. BTW love the videos keep it up
I bought in a perfectly working ps3 to one of their stores once and they did their checks and insisted it was broken. Obviously one dropped it and either no one saw or the rest of the staff covered for them. At the time I didn't care but since then I tend to buy discs/carts only on eBay for cheaper and "borrow" the cases from CeX to make up for the fact they ripped me off 90 quid at the time. I figure I still have about 50 cases or so left until I consider the debt settled tbh.
@@TheCod3r cex are a total waste of time had more run ins with them . So in the end I stopped using them. The power supply squeal that suddenly stopped when you tapped it, could indicate a dry joint somewhere in the power supply. Ex TV and video engineer and yes I've had a shock or two from caps.
Hey everyone, thanks for watching. Jusy to clear something up on this one. The video was filmed before I moved to my new workshop which is why I'm in my shed for this one. The console has also not been back under warranty, so I can only imagine what I did in this video was a good solid fix 😁
I worked at GameStop 15 years ago. The company policy was, "Blow the vents out and put it in a "GameStop Refurbished" box. That didn't fly with me. I cleaned out every console like you just did minus the power supply unless there was a concern on the trade-in. I never wanted to ruin someone's day over corporate policy. I took apart every trade in the back room, bought my own thermal paste for work in case a console needed it and supplied my store with canned air (for me basically). You hit the nail on the head by comparing them to GameStop. Sub from me.
Thanks mate. Yeah GME and CEX are probably 2 of the worst franchises around which is why I always say to people that it's best to go to an independent tech. They just don't care enough and their client base is too big for us mere mortals to get a good service
You're a good man. Well designed PSUs normally have a high value bleed resistor across the high voltage caps to discharge them, however, you're bang on not to trust them, in my experience they tend to fail and often leave the caps floating at full voltage. I've had a few near misses and one time did a bit of damage when I shorted a 400v cap on a TV chassis (with the TV off!). The other scary bit about TVs (at least when I used to repair them) is the ~27KV that's powering the anode of the tube. We used to use a couple of screwdrivers to manually discharge those and a favorite prank was to creep up behind someone doing it and clap once really loud. Fun times!
I'm going to give you a bit of advice about capacitors. I was working with HUGE ones once at a transmitter site. We discharged them all and then came back the next day. A friend grabbed one by the leads to move it and it threw him to the ground. We found that capacitors WILL recharge under fluorescent lighting.
Electrolytic capacitors also have a bit of a similar effect like batteries, where they’ll recover a partial charge after a discharge, so it’s usually a good idea to dump the charge through a suitable resistor, and then leave the shorting resistor connected until work is completed.
Ok, so, basically, why PSU can hold a charge is when the current has no way out, is blocked. But, in your case, you had a Mo/Bo plugged in which has its own capacitors, and that Mo/Bo took the most of the power of this PSU. But, if PSU could be faulty and not let go on the secondary winding for instance, yes, your big capacitor could easily hold over 300V. At least that's my experience :).
I found your channel through TronicsFix several months ago and I am a devoted fan now! Your videos are so good bro! Thank you for making such awesome content. :)
That soot is very common in machines that came form big, smogy cities, like machines I got from Budapest are all covered in carbon, i'm guessing from cars and factories.
Thank you for the videos you make and I love reading the comments from your followers below. I sit back on my sofa and diagnose the problem along side you in my head to see if I’m right at the end lol. I have memories from when I was a tv engineer (many years ago) of sticking my hand into the back of smelly, filthy,dust and nicotine filled CRT tv’s … not great fun lol. Keep up the good work !
Thank you bud, that's awesome! My dad used to be a TV engineer (well, he called himself an engineer but wasn't qualified), he was amazed the first time he saw me fixing something on this scale though haha
The last console i bothered with was a Mega Drive, and this is all magic box malarky to me, but for some reason the journey of discovery is still enthralling! Respect for yer skills, man.
I'm a computer technician,i love to see people repairing any kind of appliances ! (i hate landfill waste) i repair everything i can,if i take a few bits of recycle to the tip,i hate seeing the small electrical bin full of stuff that i know can be repaired or fixable ! TV's laptops pc's,makes me kinda sad !
In my experience with PS4 power supplies, I've found that could whine was from a short somewhere, and because of the short the frequency slowed from 50-60 hertz to much lower and I believe that's why we can hear it, because it's slowed down so much, I'm pretty sure u know this tho, great video btw ! Keep it up!
Having been a power supply fixer for many years noise can be coils or transformers but not always, have had a capacitor lightly touching something whistling. Mains hum isnt likely to go away and the micro usually shuts down
It does indeed look like CEX didn’t even bother to open up the console. Absolutely shocking! My first time on the channel, but I’ll be sticking around 😊
CeX is crafty as hell was in there a few days ago and someone took a ps4 pro in that had a faulty hdmi port and the staff told them that there was nothing they could do for a fix and that they would need a new console however if the client wanted CeX would "dispose" of the console for them and all i can think to myself is robbin bas***ds
That honestly wouldn't surprise me. I know this is admitting guilt but about 10 years ago I got hold of a couple of unreleased Intel CPUs, they "fell off a lorry" sort of thing. I took them to CEX and the manager said "sorry these haven't been released, we can't buy them... BUT meet me after work and I'll buy them off you myself".
@@TheCod3r I have personally been ripped off by them, and had them outright lie to me. A right shambles of a company. And the prices they pay to selling customers is atrocious, when you see the mark up. Have known them to sell deliberately changed IHS chips, as higher tier ones, in the hope it's not noticed.
Ironically it's a third-party repair service that does the repairs. Not CEX internally. Most people don't realise that. If the console is bought in for a warranty repair then the CEX RMA team do the repair.
yeah, I took a few items into my local CeX and about an hour later, I got a text message from them (I was at home by that time!) saying that my items were not able to be "tested" etc when they were fine. Same with discs, if there's a scratch on the inside ring, they can't take it in as "it's broken". I schooled my local CeX shop once on that, I said that isn't a crack, it's a scratch. IF it was a crack, you could tell immediately (since a crack would move when you flex the disc either side).
I did buy from CEX a Canon PowerShot a week or so ago and they included not one but three batteries, a mains/USB charger, PC to Camera cable and works absolutely brilliant and very pleased with camera.
Weird intermittent issues with PCs are usually faulty power supplies. (first check ram, then PSU is my standard hardware diagnostic routine) I think that power supply needed replacing. 50p says it will fault again. *edit* "filmed on 25th November". I owe 50p. That soot was odd though, could it short out components if there's enough of it? Then a tap could clear it.
I had this issue, was over heating so was cleaned. Hard drive got destroyed, was working fine untill I installed large amounts of games then bang - back into reinstall of firmware. Safe mode. Required a new hard drive, even remover harddrive from system and placed on the outside of it 🤣 with special SATA and power connection and 3 sheets of corrugated cardboard. No joke, no issues, super cool and no thermal throttling.
That soot is typically from burning a lot of candles. Yes just those normal scented Yankee Candles (or any brand). I used to test indoor air quality for a living. Burning candles produces high enough VOC to make looking for anything else very difficult. If you burn a lot of candles and don’t believe me goto your forced air HVAC system and pull out the air filter. If it’s black that isn’t normal, dust isn’t black what you are seeing is soot from candles. Fireplaces can cause issues but unlike candles they vent out of the chimney and unless you fire it up with the damper shut will pull air from within the house into the fireplace not vent it’s gases into your house.
I just bought a ps4 pro and it was loud so took it apart and clean up everything put thermal past on and it runs quiet now but probably never ran that quiet in to begin with
It’s commin sense for companys like CEX won’t open it or touch it if there is any liquid damage it covers them from someone that has not declared it plus they then can offer you a voice to buy a new one or upgrade it. That’s why it’s smart business for CEX to make a sale & not get sued. It’s smart business for any company that’s why they do basic repairs if you want to repair it fully you ether pay Sony to look at it in full & run full diagnostics on it but most would say it’s better buying a new one .
I had a liquid damaged samsung pad. They sent me a new one when I said it was water damaged because I had accident insurance on it. And they told me since it still worked that I should just keep using it untill it was dead and take the new one in use as well. They do not touch water damage because they can't garantee that the device won't stop working because of something that gets missed and will just overall cost more to repair in the long run than it would be worth.
This was done by a company called Tech Centre, I know because of the bag and two stickers on them as I used to work there many years ago. The JB number is the job code which can be used as a search ref. in their system. Essentially Tech Centre have quite low paying wages, strict KPIs and a lack of quality parts and tools. It's quite a joke really that in the 4 years since I've left it's not gotten any better. Like I said in an earlier comment below, due to the poor wages, you're not getting the best technicians as they're all working somewhere that respects the level of skill needed for certain tasks.
The new technical troubleshooting technique, “I just gave it a bang!” You should have merch with that on it. Like a t-shirt with a PS4 Pro and the words “I just gave it a bang!”
I've never tried CEX for repair services, so I can't comment on that. But I've found them very handy for getting hold of older generation console games for reasonable prices.
They've changed the prices by upping them. I looked at the games list and "The Amazing Spider-Man 2" game for Xbox One/Series X/S was bumped up to £60!
Loved how when you said some sort of soot of some sort you mentioned it although it was okay. Got a laugh and enjoyed the video. By the way a quick question you might see and answer. I have a cuh-7215b that suddenly shut off while backing out of YT videos. 1 second BLOD. You can hear power try to go to the disc drive maybe but idk. Anyways I can't really find anything wrong with it except for maybe what are the solder contact points for the HDMI and other ports back there. The shiny portion of the points seems to be fractured and disintegrated/flaked off a moderate amount on all those points. Could this be the cause of a problem? There also seems to be a yellow/brownish hot spots maybe around the black optical cable port, controller port solder points and HD port solder points. Looks like a light smear of sauce or something but it a layer of the board or flux perhaps? Idk. All I know is the original HD died, replaced with crucial mx500, pads and good paste. Cleaned once or twice since then but then got lazy and it had moderate build up of dust/hair this time when it did this BLOD out of nowhere on me. Never heard the fan kick up higher than low while doing anything ever since the SSD and service. (NVG-002) I realize this is a massive comment with multiple questions in it but maybe you or even another reader in the comments could offer me your thoughts about those things. Also apparently my PSU is good. I tested it plugged in with the correct pins of the plug jumped and it tested just under 12v and 5v when probing each test point. Like by less than half a volt. 11.8, 4.8. Is there a way I can restore the flaking/disintegrating solder contact points for the rear board ports? Idk what else to test or how.
Very good advice to be wary of touching those capacitors in the primary side of the PSU. I'm crap at explaining things but in a fully working PSU, capacitors should discharge quite quickly if the DC secondary side is still connected to the console when the AC primary supply is unplugged. If the DC output isn't connected or the console isn't taking power when AC mains is unplugged then there "should" be part of the PSU that discharges the capacitor, but can take a bit longer. If you have a faulty PSU and the discharge resistor isn't doing it's job (and you wouldn't be able to tell in most cases) then all bets are off and you could get a good belt off a capacitor even after an hour. Coil whine comes from anything inductive, so yes both the transformers but also the inductors or any wire-wound components. Couldn't really hear any in this video. I'm old school and shy away from anything surface mount. In the case of that PSU a quick check / wiggle test for dry joints on the solder side of the circuit board where any components solder through might have been what I'd have done just for peace of mind if a tap fixed it. Liking your videos, thanks. I
I know them transistors make some humming noises when they get stuck and short out, so when you tapped it the transister relay inside must had been stuck and you knocked it free, they go bad in tvs all the time on the powersupply sides but the only way to test them is by taking them out of circut and voltage meter the poles, i can't remember but one is a gate...lol!
Can hold a charge for days, except it can't and you can see why by just looking at it, there are discharge resistors there plain as day. Those caps, start discharging as soon as power is lost, within a min or 2 they should be down to nonlethal voltages.
*should* discharge being the key word mate, unless the discharge resistor goes bad. Yes they should discharge, but they don't always, and it isn't worth the risk!
Great vid. Love watching you fix the unfixable. I have had my ps5 for over a year and have had no issues, also had a PS4 Pro for 4 years prior (also no issues) but it amazes me how people wreck/drop/damage their consoles . Keep it up. Wishing your channel much growth mate.
Haven’t trusted CEX for selling to since late 2014 (might’ve been early 2015). They messed up my iMac screen and tried to make out as though the issue had already been there. I won’t go into further details than that. The thing was in perfect condition earlier that very same day. It’s left with them for “testing” and suddenly it has backlight bleed in the corner that makes it impossible for them to sell.
Be careful to take photos of serial numbers as well on everything including Graphics cards to controllers as they will switch parts and say yours was broken unfortunately. Most people just leave their stuff there without bothering to take photos.
Hi Cod3r, do you fix PS4 controllers as the new ones suffer drift I’ve got 2 or three that don’t work very well at all I’ve tried but I’m not good with soldering and apparently changing the part needs little bit doing. Keep up the great work 👍🏽
As far as i'm aware coil wine is perfectly fine, i've had it on every single console since the 360, i get it even more so on high end gear. I've never heard coil wine coming from a power unit though so that's a weird one.
My local has a no it all, i tried selling a GPU with bubble wrap it was all going fine i was about to be paid then he comes along and says we can't take it due to the risk of static electricity, all the while the person serving me was touching the contact pins that go into the PCI lane you no because that can't cause issues, i just said f it and haven't been to that store in years.
Where your twitch link fellow Brit. I can link primes. Really enjoyed some long videos which were relaxing, really informative and interesting all at the same time. 👍
Hey I just found ur channel qnd watched q few videos. I love ur videos I like learning qnd watching electronics getting fixed specially consoles or TV or stereos .I was very happy for u when you fixed that xbox series x for your self.thats awsome. I'm still stuck on xbox one x .I hope u can a series x or by one q fix ifor cheaper 👍
What about hitting the power button after unplugging the device to perhaps discharge the power supply a little? I bought a ps4 the other day with a non working discdrive + button and after replugging the cables everything started working 😂 I was confident enough to do a drive repair. Cost me 75 bux and had firmware 4.7 on it. Mustve been sitting on a shelf forever. Also replaced the thermal paste and cleaned the rollers cause it wouldnt take discs well 👍 Love watching your videos and fiddling with electronics myself. Nice easy fix this one sometimes you just gotta bang it 🤣🤣
It's not a question if it's fixable or not, most big companies look at the cost & time efficiency so most of the time they just discard the product. It's more economical for big company's to write it off under industry insurance. I worked for big tech company's when board level repair was worth it or specialized equipment that couldn't be replaced & board level was the only option but now days replacing a simple ribbon cable valued at $3 bucks even if so cheap the labour & process or warranty guarantee the company's just write it off. This great for me I gut it & the shell gets destroyed under issuance, I can buy a shell for cheap or come across broken unit & perform a transplant resulting in a almost brand new unit for less than $22 saved myself $1978 for something that only came out on the market less than 6 to 8 months ago.
I once had a perfectly working Sega Megadrive II declared unsellable by CEX because their TV didn't have an Arial lead connector so they couldn't test it with their TV.
That stupid but technically they couldn't see it working so I do get their point But you would think with a store that sells retro items that they'd have a older TV compatible with them
@@HollowRick Even then the store is allowed to just visual check it and buy it in. It's just rare that stores do that as they'd rather not risk the chance it doesn't work
I would probably have to guess CEX has some sort of performance metrics for staff, basically requiring them to do repairs quickly. And quite often you get results like this, where staff member will want to cut down on time as much as possible, so they have to jump to conclusions without opening a console and probably just used this console to "improve" his statistics, without spending time on it. Since sometimes statistic targets get so tight that they are basically just making staff to look for quickest ways out. Like I get ticket "internet doesn't work, reboot doesn't help" and find out that modem has uptime of few months and actual customers issue is that they expected ISP router to cover multiple floors... but whoever sent me that ticket got really great statistics on how quickly they handled customer. :-D
I'm also willing to guess that the sort of person employed by CEX is not the sort of person who has the intimate knowledge on how to repair stuff, or even how it's broken in the first place. Let's be honest - if you did have that knowledge, you wouldn't be working at CEX.
I think they seen the water damage and were like nah not fixing that motherboard damage... I wonder with the water maybe there was a small fire and water was used to put it down all the smoke and water damage got into it
Conversely, I managed to sell them my dusty af ps 4 pro the other week. The thing only stays in for like 11 minutes exactly. 😂😂 Got top price for it too. Lol.
5:39 no it won't. Coil whine is a product of the electricity causing a vibration in the components as it passes through them. There is nothing wrong with them and it will not cause any issues. It's just really annoying.
Hey mate, I have experience in normal repairs. I’m looking to get into micro soldering. Would you give me some tips and what tools to start on. Happy to pay you for you time
get yourself some 2x1 framing up and some plasterboard sheets or insulated sheets up there :) will be a lot cleaner for you, brighter, and even hold the heat in more. Of course you may well have to use 2ft wide ones to get them through loft hatch.
@@cattflap1447 you obviously didn't see the "pinned" comment by the Cod3r himself saying that this is an old video filmed before he moved to his new workshop. 🤔🤔😒😒
Please don't argue, little bunnies cry when you do 😮💨 That said, I assume you're referring to the new workshop. I do agree I need to make the walls a little better in there
Have you ever seen a issue where when the PS looses power during an outage that it stays off for about 3 days then comes on and runs perfectly fine till it looses power again?
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Just a general hint regarding the squeal etc normal inductors and coils squeal when they are being stressed. most common cause of stress is to much current being passed through the coil, inductor etc. in other words its being stressed overload. But the big clue you gave was when you tapped the power supply and the squeal stopped. That points to a dry joint some where in the PSU. also because you have pointed out the console has suffered over heating this can cause components that have a poor connection to be intermittent because of thermal expansion and contraction . This type of fault is the biggest type of failure in the whole electronics industry. 1st lesson i learned doing repairs was HEAT Kills electronics 2 power surges Kill Electronics 3 static discharge Kills Electronic.4 incorrect voltages Kills electronics and can manifest its self with no end of strange faults and effects. BTW love the videos keep it up
That would make sense. To be fair the console hasn't come back and this video was filmed on 25th November so I don't think it has an issue really
Exactly why I done mechanical engineering and not electrical 😂
I remember when the girls used to scream! Every time i told them they had to pay for their own drinks ;-)
I bought in a perfectly working ps3 to one of their stores once and they did their checks and insisted it was broken. Obviously one dropped it and either no one saw or the rest of the staff covered for them. At the time I didn't care but since then I tend to buy discs/carts only on eBay for cheaper and "borrow" the cases from CeX to make up for the fact they ripped me off 90 quid at the time. I figure I still have about 50 cases or so left until I consider the debt settled tbh.
Hahah nice
I'll help you take some of their doors and windows as well. Gormless f.cking idiots that work there.
Glad to see you apply the PERFECT amount of thermal paste!!
Haha, TronixFix crack me up every time he say that.
Haha thanks, I'm slowly stealing that saying from Steve 🤣
@@TheCod3r Lets see if Steve starts saying "Some sort of soot".
You dont suck at all dude :)....We all learn loads from you. I love CEX unrepaired items, usually very repairable...
Haha thanks mate. Yeah CEX really don't appear to do a lot do they lol
@@TheCod3r cex are a total waste of time had more run ins with them . So in the end I stopped using them. The power supply squeal that suddenly stopped when you tapped it, could indicate a dry joint somewhere in the power supply. Ex TV and video engineer and yes I've had a shock or two from caps.
@@TheCod3r they’d be quick to offer £10 store credit for it though 😂
Hey everyone, thanks for watching. Jusy to clear something up on this one. The video was filmed before I moved to my new workshop which is why I'm in my shed for this one. The console has also not been back under warranty, so I can only imagine what I did in this video was a good solid fix 😁
So when are we seeing the ps4 in 4k?
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I worked at GameStop 15 years ago. The company policy was, "Blow the vents out and put it in a "GameStop Refurbished" box. That didn't fly with me. I cleaned out every console like you just did minus the power supply unless there was a concern on the trade-in. I never wanted to ruin someone's day over corporate policy. I took apart every trade in the back room, bought my own thermal paste for work in case a console needed it and supplied my store with canned air (for me basically). You hit the nail on the head by comparing them to GameStop. Sub from me.
Thanks mate. Yeah GME and CEX are probably 2 of the worst franchises around which is why I always say to people that it's best to go to an independent tech. They just don't care enough and their client base is too big for us mere mortals to get a good service
@@TheCod3r It was good to see someone else want to make sure things were proper. I appreciate your attention to detail more than you know.
Some heroes don’t wear a cape
@@emmanuelcruzortega8528 ... although (thankfully) I couldn't see whether he was wearing his underpants over his tights 😂😂
Gute Arbeit und ein guter Mann! Viele Grüße aus Fürth Deutschland!
You're a good man.
Well designed PSUs normally have a high value bleed resistor across the high voltage caps to discharge them, however, you're bang on not to trust them, in my experience they tend to fail and often leave the caps floating at full voltage. I've had a few near misses and one time did a bit of damage when I shorted a 400v cap on a TV chassis (with the TV off!).
The other scary bit about TVs (at least when I used to repair them) is the ~27KV that's powering the anode of the tube. We used to use a couple of screwdrivers to manually discharge those and a favorite prank was to creep up behind someone doing it and clap once really loud. Fun times!
Yeah I've had a few zaps from TV PSUs myself 🤣 that sounds hilarious though, I'd love to see the look on their faces haha
@@TheCod3r It's always a risk when you do it because the person you surprise typically has a screwdriver in each hand :)
If in doubt give it a clout!
Loving your channel bro ❤️
Actually, you're one of the best and I learn a lot from you. Keep doing what you do so I can learn more.
U seem like a very nice trustworthy geezer love watching your videos only just found you cheers mate👍
Cheers buddy
I'm going to give you a bit of advice about capacitors. I was working with HUGE ones once at a transmitter site. We discharged them all and then came back the next day. A friend grabbed one by the leads to move it and it threw him to the ground. We found that capacitors WILL recharge under fluorescent lighting.
This is an interesting fact. Thanks for sharing
Electrolytic capacitors also have a bit of a similar effect like batteries, where they’ll recover a partial charge after a discharge, so it’s usually a good idea to dump the charge through a suitable resistor, and then leave the shorting resistor connected until work is completed.
Mate you are a very likable person and clearly have a passion for what you do. It makes for some very watchable videos. Good luck for the future!💪
Mine has always made this sound when playing games since day 1, took it back and new one was exactly same. Was told it's normal and not to worry.
Ok, so, basically, why PSU can hold a charge is when the current has no way out, is blocked. But, in your case, you had a Mo/Bo plugged in which has its own capacitors, and that Mo/Bo took the most of the power of this PSU. But, if PSU could be faulty and not let go on the secondary winding for instance, yes, your big capacitor could easily hold over 300V. At least that's my experience :).
not really interested in fixing old consoles but u sound like such a nice lad im subscribed and will keep liking your vids
I found your channel through TronicsFix several months ago and I am a devoted fan now! Your videos are so good bro! Thank you for making such awesome content. :)
Thanks mate much appreciated
That soot is very common in machines that came form big, smogy cities, like machines I got from Budapest are all covered in carbon, i'm guessing from cars and factories.
Thank you for the videos you make and I love reading the comments from your followers below. I sit back on my sofa and diagnose the problem along side you in my head to see if I’m right at the end lol.
I have memories from when I was a tv engineer (many years ago) of sticking my hand into the back of smelly, filthy,dust and nicotine filled CRT tv’s … not great fun lol.
Keep up the good work !
Thank you bud, that's awesome! My dad used to be a TV engineer (well, he called himself an engineer but wasn't qualified), he was amazed the first time he saw me fixing something on this scale though haha
David if you're still interested in stuff like that I suggest you have a look at shango066 channel if you haven't already. Right in your wheelhouse.
The last console i bothered with was a Mega Drive, and this is all magic box malarky to me, but for some reason the journey of discovery is still enthralling! Respect for yer skills, man.
very good work...greetings from Germany (from the Isle of Rügen)
I'm a computer technician,i love to see people repairing any kind of appliances ! (i hate landfill waste) i repair everything i can,if i take a few bits of recycle to the tip,i hate seeing the small electrical bin full of stuff that i know can be repaired or fixable ! TV's laptops pc's,makes me kinda sad !
My missus and I have become a huge fan of your videos, man. Great work. Keep it up!
That's awesome mate, thanks very much for the support
@@TheCod3r no problem. When my current Amazon Prime sub ends, I'll fire it your way
Scratch that. It already expired. Twitch Prime subbed.
In my experience with PS4 power supplies, I've found that could whine was from a short somewhere, and because of the short the frequency slowed from 50-60 hertz to much lower and I believe that's why we can hear it, because it's slowed down so much, I'm pretty sure u know this tho, great video btw ! Keep it up!
Thanks, I actually don't because I'm not experienced with PSUs at all :)
Having been a power supply fixer for many years noise can be coils or transformers but not always, have had a capacitor lightly touching something whistling. Mains hum isnt likely to go away and the micro usually shuts down
Just subscribed mate found your channel by mistake and your videos are fantastic looking forward to going through your videos all the best
It does indeed look like CEX didn’t even bother to open up the console. Absolutely shocking!
My first time on the channel, but I’ll be sticking around 😊
The store usually doesn't open up consoles. It's down to the repair hub and/or RMA depending on the story of your console
Those caps in those power supplies never really stay charged unless the power supply has a problem itself.
CeX is crafty as hell was in there a few days ago and someone took a ps4 pro in that had a faulty hdmi port and the staff told them that there was nothing they could do for a fix and that they would need a new console however if the client wanted CeX would "dispose" of the console for them and all i can think to myself is robbin bas***ds
Know, for an absolute fact, that CEX are as dodgy as the day is long. Wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. They are shocking levels of dodgy.
That honestly wouldn't surprise me. I know this is admitting guilt but about 10 years ago I got hold of a couple of unreleased Intel CPUs, they "fell off a lorry" sort of thing. I took them to CEX and the manager said "sorry these haven't been released, we can't buy them... BUT meet me after work and I'll buy them off you myself".
@@TheCod3r I have personally been ripped off by them, and had them outright lie to me. A right shambles of a company. And the prices they pay to selling customers is atrocious, when you see the mark up. Have known them to sell deliberately changed IHS chips, as higher tier ones, in the hope it's not noticed.
Crafty fuckers man
Cex are scum they were selling ps5 for 800 pound nothing but robbing bastards
great video the cod3r great channel brother keep up the good work
Totally amazing mate I watch your channel all the time my friend keep up the good work 👏
Ironically it's a third-party repair service that does the repairs. Not CEX internally. Most people don't realise that. If the console is bought in for a warranty repair then the CEX RMA team do the repair.
yeah, I took a few items into my local CeX and about an hour later, I got a text message from them (I was at home by that time!) saying that my items were not able to be "tested" etc when they were fine. Same with discs, if there's a scratch on the inside ring, they can't take it in as "it's broken".
I schooled my local CeX shop once on that, I said that isn't a crack, it's a scratch. IF it was a crack, you could tell immediately (since a crack would move when you flex the disc either side).
I did buy from CEX a Canon PowerShot a week or so ago and they included not one but three batteries, a mains/USB charger, PC to Camera cable and works absolutely brilliant and very pleased with camera.
That sounds like a pretty good deal
Weird intermittent issues with PCs are usually faulty power supplies. (first check ram, then PSU is my standard hardware diagnostic routine)
I think that power supply needed replacing. 50p says it will fault again. *edit* "filmed on 25th November". I owe 50p.
That soot was odd though, could it short out components if there's enough of it? Then a tap could clear it.
I had this issue, was over heating so was cleaned. Hard drive got destroyed, was working fine untill I installed large amounts of games then bang - back into reinstall of firmware. Safe mode. Required a new hard drive, even remover harddrive from system and placed on the outside of it 🤣 with special SATA and power connection and 3 sheets of corrugated cardboard. No joke, no issues, super cool and no thermal throttling.
That soot is typically from burning a lot of candles. Yes just those normal scented Yankee Candles (or any brand). I used to test indoor air quality for a living. Burning candles produces high enough VOC to make looking for anything else very difficult.
If you burn a lot of candles and don’t believe me goto your forced air HVAC system and pull out the air filter. If it’s black that isn’t normal, dust isn’t black what you are seeing is soot from candles.
Fireplaces can cause issues but unlike candles they vent out of the chimney and unless you fire it up with the damper shut will pull air from within the house into the fireplace not vent it’s gases into your house.
Yeah I have a woodburner and My pc is only about 6 ft away. It doesn't have this kind of damage, gets more dusty than normal but that's all.
Got a bad eye too. Torn retina, fixing mobiles is a nightmare.
Many a TV in the 70's and 80's were fixed with the 'Tap'.
CEX said my PS4 with a broken disc drive was unfixable, seems that was just them not even trying.
I just bought a ps4 pro and it was loud so took it apart and clean up everything put thermal past on and it runs quiet now but probably never ran that quiet in to begin with
It’s commin sense for companys like CEX won’t open it or touch it if there is any liquid damage it covers them from someone that has not declared it plus they then can offer you a voice to buy a new one or upgrade it.
That’s why it’s smart business for CEX to make a sale & not get sued.
It’s smart business for any company that’s why they do basic repairs if you want to repair it fully you ether pay Sony to look at it in full & run full diagnostics on it but most would say it’s better buying a new one .
I had a liquid damaged samsung pad. They sent me a new one when I said it was water damaged because I had accident insurance on it. And they told me since it still worked that I should just keep using it untill it was dead and take the new one in use as well. They do not touch water damage because they can't garantee that the device won't stop working because of something that gets missed and will just overall cost more to repair in the long run than it would be worth.
This was done by a company called Tech Centre, I know because of the bag and two stickers on them as I used to work there many years ago. The JB number is the job code which can be used as a search ref. in their system. Essentially Tech Centre have quite low paying wages, strict KPIs and a lack of quality parts and tools. It's quite a joke really that in the 4 years since I've left it's not gotten any better. Like I said in an earlier comment below, due to the poor wages, you're not getting the best technicians as they're all working somewhere that respects the level of skill needed for certain tasks.
What skill do you need to open a system and see that the paste is like mostly gone?.
Not sure about the card with some wording on bottom right But amazing video Your a legend 🤟😁
The new technical troubleshooting technique, “I just gave it a bang!” You should have merch with that on it. Like a t-shirt with a PS4 Pro and the words “I just gave it a bang!”
Give it a kick/slap/punch, or hit it with a hammer, was standard repair technique in soviet times.
I've never tried CEX for repair services, so I can't comment on that. But I've found them very handy for getting hold of older generation console games for reasonable prices.
They've changed the prices by upping them. I looked at the games list and "The Amazing Spider-Man 2" game for Xbox One/Series X/S was bumped up to £60!
Opening the power supply releases the bad spirits, tada fixed hahaha
Loved how when you said some sort of soot of some sort you mentioned it although it was okay. Got a laugh and enjoyed the video. By the way a quick question you might see and answer. I have a cuh-7215b that suddenly shut off while backing out of YT videos. 1 second BLOD. You can hear power try to go to the disc drive maybe but idk. Anyways I can't really find anything wrong with it except for maybe what are the solder contact points for the HDMI and other ports back there. The shiny portion of the points seems to be fractured and disintegrated/flaked off a moderate amount on all those points. Could this be the cause of a problem? There also seems to be a yellow/brownish hot spots maybe around the black optical cable port, controller port solder points and HD port solder points. Looks like a light smear of sauce or something but it a layer of the board or flux perhaps? Idk. All I know is the original HD died, replaced with crucial mx500, pads and good paste. Cleaned once or twice since then but then got lazy and it had moderate build up of dust/hair this time when it did this BLOD out of nowhere on me. Never heard the fan kick up higher than low while doing anything ever since the SSD and service. (NVG-002) I realize this is a massive comment with multiple questions in it but maybe you or even another reader in the comments could offer me your thoughts about those things. Also apparently my PSU is good. I tested it plugged in with the correct pins of the plug jumped and it tested just under 12v and 5v when probing each test point. Like by less than half a volt. 11.8, 4.8. Is there a way I can restore the flaking/disintegrating solder contact points for the rear board ports? Idk what else to test or how.
Very good advice to be wary of touching those capacitors in the primary side of the PSU. I'm crap at explaining things but in a fully working PSU, capacitors should discharge quite quickly if the DC secondary side is still connected to the console when the AC primary supply is unplugged. If the DC output isn't connected or the console isn't taking power when AC mains is unplugged then there "should" be part of the PSU that discharges the capacitor, but can take a bit longer. If you have a faulty PSU and the discharge resistor isn't doing it's job (and you wouldn't be able to tell in most cases) then all bets are off and you could get a good belt off a capacitor even after an hour. Coil whine comes from anything inductive, so yes both the transformers but also the inductors or any wire-wound components. Couldn't really hear any in this video. I'm old school and shy away from anything surface mount. In the case of that PSU a quick check / wiggle test for dry joints on the solder side of the circuit board where any components solder through might have been what I'd have done just for peace of mind if a tap fixed it. Liking your videos, thanks. I
I know them transistors make some humming noises when they get stuck and short out, so when you tapped it the transister relay inside must had been stuck and you knocked it free, they go bad in tvs all the time on the powersupply sides but the only way to test them is by taking them out of circut and voltage meter the poles, i can't remember but one is a gate...lol!
Great video as always.That Ps4 been in a smokers house.
Recently found your channel mate just subscribed loving the content 👍
I don't sell to cex but have bought from them and they have stood by their 2 warranty.
Great video thank you for the upload and info provided keep up the great work mate 👍🏻👊🏻
Can hold a charge for days, except it can't and you can see why by just looking at it, there are discharge resistors there plain as day. Those caps, start discharging as soon as power is lost, within a min or 2 they should be down to nonlethal voltages.
*should* discharge being the key word mate, unless the discharge resistor goes bad. Yes they should discharge, but they don't always, and it isn't worth the risk!
Great vid. Love watching you fix the unfixable. I have had my ps5 for over a year and have had no issues, also had a PS4 Pro for 4 years prior (also no issues) but it amazes me how people wreck/drop/damage their consoles . Keep it up. Wishing your channel much growth mate.
Hope you feel better
you're grat, i might ask you to fix my consile one day, great vids :)
Thank you mate :)
I do love your videos mate, such a genuine bloke. Do you think most of the power resets are down to over heating PSUs?
Bonjour, vous êtes un très bon technicien.
Love the videos mate keep it up I'm learning so much done my first hdmi replacement and didn't reck it lol
Thanks buddy, thats awesome, keep it up 😁
Dry joint hence when you banged it the fault cleared on the psu
Geezer looks like he’s been on the light and dark. Face is mullered
2 B and 2 white mate. 🤣🤣🤣
@@gamerfreakgaming😂😂 2 brandy 2 whisky
Liked and subbed cheers mate, great vid.
Haven’t trusted CEX for selling to since late 2014 (might’ve been early 2015). They messed up my iMac screen and tried to make out as though the issue had already been there. I won’t go into further details than that. The thing was in perfect condition earlier that very same day. It’s left with them for “testing” and suddenly it has backlight bleed in the corner that makes it impossible for them to sell.
Be careful to take photos of serial numbers as well on everything including Graphics cards to controllers as they will switch parts and say yours was broken unfortunately. Most people just leave their stuff there without bothering to take photos.
awesome video man
@thecod3r I think its vibration and not coil wine,ive heard this noise before,youtube ps4 vibration noise very similar :)
Hi Cod3r, do you fix PS4 controllers as the new ones suffer drift I’ve got 2 or three that don’t work very well at all I’ve tried but I’m not good with soldering and apparently changing the part needs little bit doing. Keep up the great work 👍🏽
As far as i'm aware coil wine is perfectly fine, i've had it on every single console since the 360, i get it even more so on high end gear. I've never heard coil wine coming from a power unit though so that's a weird one.
Awesome channel.. Liked & subscribed!!
My local has a no it all, i tried selling a GPU with bubble wrap it was all going fine i was about to be paid then he comes along and says we can't take it due to the risk of static electricity, all the while the person serving me was touching the contact pins that go into the PCI lane you no because that can't cause issues, i just said f it and haven't been to that store in years.
Where your twitch link fellow Brit. I can link primes. Really enjoyed some long videos which were relaxing, really informative and interesting all at the same time. 👍
Hey I just found ur channel qnd watched q few videos. I love ur videos I like learning qnd watching electronics getting fixed specially consoles or TV or stereos .I was very happy for u when you fixed that xbox series x for your self.thats awsome. I'm still stuck on xbox one x .I hope u can a series x or by one q fix ifor cheaper 👍
I bought a bike from cash converters , said spares or repairs .I fixed it in about 2 mins
What about hitting the power button after unplugging the device to perhaps discharge the power supply a little? I bought a ps4 the other day with a non working discdrive + button and after replugging the cables everything started working 😂 I was confident enough to do a drive repair. Cost me 75 bux and had firmware 4.7 on it. Mustve been sitting on a shelf forever. Also replaced the thermal paste and cleaned the rollers cause it wouldnt take discs well 👍 Love watching your videos and fiddling with electronics myself. Nice easy fix this one sometimes you just gotta bang it 🤣🤣
Who come you moved to the Loft Phil. You been annoying the neighbours with your late night tinkering keeping them awake 😄
Haha no they were annoying me with their dogs barking haha
It's not a question if it's fixable or not, most big companies look at the cost & time efficiency so most of the time they just discard the product. It's more economical for big company's to write it off under industry insurance. I worked for big tech company's when board level repair was worth it or specialized equipment that couldn't be replaced & board level was the only option but now days replacing a simple ribbon cable valued at $3 bucks even if so cheap the labour & process or warranty guarantee the company's just write it off. This great for me I gut it & the shell gets destroyed under issuance, I can buy a shell for cheap or come across broken unit & perform a transplant resulting in a almost brand new unit for less than $22 saved myself $1978 for something that only came out on the market less than 6 to 8 months ago.
I used to work for Cex and they used to be really honest before it became a worldwide franchise and cash grabbers.
I once had a perfectly working Sega Megadrive II declared unsellable by CEX because their TV didn't have an Arial lead connector so they couldn't test it with their TV.
That stupid but technically they couldn't see it working so I do get their point But you would think with a store that sells retro items that they'd have a older TV compatible with them
@@HollowRick Even then the store is allowed to just visual check it and buy it in. It's just rare that stores do that as they'd rather not risk the chance it doesn't work
I learned the mistake that ps4 holds power only unplugged it from the wall and actually touched the metal pins on the plug dammm it hurt 😞😂
The soot maybe from candles or incense burning.
I would probably have to guess CEX has some sort of performance metrics for staff, basically requiring them to do repairs quickly. And quite often you get results like this, where staff member will want to cut down on time as much as possible, so they have to jump to conclusions without opening a console and probably just used this console to "improve" his statistics, without spending time on it. Since sometimes statistic targets get so tight that they are basically just making staff to look for quickest ways out. Like I get ticket "internet doesn't work, reboot doesn't help" and find out that modem has uptime of few months and actual customers issue is that they expected ISP router to cover multiple floors... but whoever sent me that ticket got really great statistics on how quickly they handled customer. :-D
I'm also willing to guess that the sort of person employed by CEX is not the sort of person who has the intimate knowledge on how to repair stuff, or even how it's broken in the first place.
Let's be honest - if you did have that knowledge, you wouldn't be working at CEX.
The inside of the power supply looks like its from the 80's
Goat repair man
I think they seen the water damage and were like nah not fixing that motherboard damage... I wonder with the water maybe there was a small fire and water was used to put it down all the smoke and water damage got into it
Love your videos cod3r
Conversely, I managed to sell them my dusty af ps 4 pro the other week. The thing only stays in for like 11 minutes exactly. 😂😂 Got top price for it too. Lol.
i wish i had your knowledge D: i always get minor stutters on my high end rig i bet this guy would solve it in like seconds........
Hi Chad, thanks !
well done and good video ! 👏☕
5:39 no it won't. Coil whine is a product of the electricity causing a vibration in the components as it passes through them. There is nothing wrong with them and it will not cause any issues. It's just really annoying.
If you Listen to most ps5s they also have coil whine. No issues with mine so far.
My eye was constantly drawn to the prick mouse pad. 😂
Haha yep a viewer sent me that because I kept calling him a prick 🤣
A nouther awsome job big man👍
Hey! Love the videos, how much would a Ps5 controller USB-C port be to sort out?
Hey mate, I have experience in normal repairs. I’m looking to get into micro soldering. Would you give me some tips and what tools to start on. Happy to pay you for you time
Wooow old video from back in the day top work for getting it out to us tho 😜😜😜
Haha cheers mate plenty more to get through over the next few weeks as I start to clear my drives up on the old laptop 😁
get yourself some 2x1 framing up and some plasterboard sheets or insulated sheets up there :) will be a lot cleaner for you, brighter, and even hold the heat in more. Of course you may well have to use 2ft wide ones to get them through loft hatch.
you do know that this video is an old one filmed in his shed. 🤔🤔
@@markrowe8824 You do know if you watch this video it isn't an old video, he even says at the beginning he got sinusitus from working in his loft 🤔🤔
@@cattflap1447 you obviously didn't see the "pinned" comment by the Cod3r himself saying that this is an old video filmed before he moved to his new workshop. 🤔🤔😒😒
Please don't argue, little bunnies cry when you do 😮💨
That said, I assume you're referring to the new workshop. I do agree I need to make the walls a little better in there
Hello , do you do repairs on all electronics? I've a Guinness usb charger that's haf 240v through it instead of 24v !!
Have you ever seen a issue where when the PS looses power during an outage that it stays off for about 3 days then comes on and runs perfectly fine till it looses power again?