Just picked up my 2022 WRX and it absolutely needs the pitch stop. No matter how smooth I shift, there’s always a little slop to 1st and 2nd, drives me nuts! Will be throwing in the Perrin here shortly, thanks for another great vid IIR!
The order that you reinstalled the retainer clip on the charge pipe confuses me. If the clip's function is to hold the charge pipe in place, why don't you reinsert the charge pipe fully and then snap the retainer clip back in place to lock it? I haven't worked with this before, but it seems akin to tightening a hose clamp before putting the hose in.
Always enjoy your uploads! Still waiting to see you guys do an install for rear subframe inserts lol. Its probably tricky to figure out what would fit but I look forward to you guys finding out what works.
Great vid! Does the pitch stop help with the jerkiness going from 1st to 2nd gear?? Or do you think installing the STI short shifter is better for the jerkiness?? I just got my new 2022 WRX and I love it! Thanks!
This is mostly to stop the engine from moving as much in the engine bay, which will likely increase vibrations and any jerkiness you feel. A short shifter or shifter stop might help you more. Also try practicing with the clutch to see if you can find a "sweet spot" for your shifts.
He's talking about the elastic band effect this car is horrible for. I've been driving manual cars and trucks my whole life, and I've never experienced anything like this car. Release the clutch too soon, and the thing starts bucking like a bronco.
@importimageracing #importimage racing How long did this take? I don't have a garage and live in an apartment. Debating just taking it to my shop. My biggest concern is boost leaks. I don't want to start removing parts that cause boost leaks. My 05 STi, God I loved it (612whp), but every time anything was removed that could cause a boost leak I got one. One shop even pressure tested every time they removed parts like this (for free). Which is great it it's free, but rare. I've never had a new car and I don't want to mess with things and create problems.
This was a very easy install. For this, you shouldn't run into any sorts of leaks as these parts can only go one way. I'd say if you have never done this before, it'd take you 30min to an hour. But, if you have an impact and are mechanically inclined, this should only take you 15-30min :)
Did you mention if the same pit stops from the 4th gen will fit the 22? Thanks in advance! Your videos already helped me tons with mine and only have had it 5 days.
@@ImportImageRacing question! I just ordered a k and n filter for it, 33-5092 part number. Wondering if it’s the right size. Grimm speed is selling the 22wrx ones that are also compatible with the 4th Gen STIs so figured I’d go with whatever k and n recommended for 2019 sti to fit the 2022 wrx
@@sharpshotta that is correct. We have not checked yet but Grimmspeed has confirmed the 19-21 STI filter fits. So the 33-5092 would be the K&N equivalent of the 19-21 sti Grimmspeed dry con filter. So you should be good to go!
I remember when I had my 2016 WRX, the location where the pitch stop connected to the firewall was very thin. I remember that a lot of people complained about that. Did Subaru fix this by reinforcing that area for 2022?
I came here looking for the exact same info. I was hoping for a view of it, but iirc when I looked at mine in person a few months back, it was much beefier than the VA was
@@pyroguyFTW that's good to know. I can't remember which video I watched since I made this comment, but, I did find out that the firewall pitch stop location is definitely beefier.
@@ImportImageRacing I noticed that when I did mine! It definitely is more reinforced than the original VA ones. Right now I'm debating on a trans mount, but I've got poly diff inserts and crossmember bushings that are going in during the next oil change. Once that's done, all I'll need is a proper tuning solution and to figure out what 5v output to use to control my methanol flow, and I'll be cherry.
Would it be fine if this was my first install on my 22 wrx or should I start with transmission and differential mods like you guys did also I already have a sti short shifter installed by dealer
Grinding? If you have a manual it could be the throw out bearing or something in the clutch assembly or it could be something on the pulley system, A/C Compressor, alternator, or water pump. Being such a new car if its making a concerning noise I would take it back to the dealer and have them scope it out under warranty whatever it ends up being, it should be fully covered!
@@ImportImageRacing just left Subaru they said it’s the ac compressor. They are going to order one, said because of the supply chain it could take two weeks. They will call me when it’s in, and fix it then. Said it won’t hurt the car to keep driving
Some people have commented that 90A durometer bushings feel way too harsh while others do not seem to comment on it at all. What's your thought? Was it not too bad?
I installed one of these in my '16 WRX but then had some anxiety because I didn't install the corresponding pitch stop brace. I've heard different thing's about the PC brace welds in front of the firewall cracking, but I didn't think it would be a huge issue under normal driving conditions (not tracking or launching it). I had it in for about 6 months with no issue before I finally sold the car. For the new VB, do you think it would be necessary to install the PC brace?
So that was a big issue that they revised eventually. It happened to people with stock pitch stops as well. It was a TSB and if yours cracked you could have it replaced for free under warranty. They eventually reinforced the area so the VB chassis probably carries over that revision.
...not new parts, but instead carryover parts from the VA chassis that is compatible with the VB chassis. There are many carryover parts, ex. The VB cars use the STi transmission case, so the VA STi group-n trans mount fits. I would also believe that the VA group-n pitch stop mounts works too instead of spending extra money on the Perrin piece....
The VB chassis does not use the STI Transmission case. The VA STI mount only works because they switched back to it. The wrx always used that mount and they just changed it out for the VA chassis for some reason. All sub 14 wrx and sti used that mount. And the VA chassis pitch stops do transfer over. We didn't choose the perrin one for any specific reason. We carry tons of brands including the group N mount. They all fit the same.
I just installed the Perrin pitch stop mount on the 2022 WRX and I was wondering does the firewall bracket seem to be improved from previous years? Or do you think it can benefit from the Perrin bracket brace? If so have you guys tested previous years to see if they fit?
It seems better than previous years. There was a TSB recall on the 15-16 model years for the welds breaking on the firewall and it was revised in 2017 and I don't believe it has been common since. However, the extra peace of mind is nice. We haven't personally tested out that part on this car yet.
There's no way you tightened that front bolt to 444 in.lb with those tiny wrenches. If I did that at my job I wouldn't record it because it would be evidence at my trial. I've seen guys given the option of paying 900k in damages and jail time or relinquish their license and resign for smaller mistakes. It irks me how automotive technicians give all technicians a bad name. Not using a torque wrench on powertrain components is beyond amateur.
They are different. Atleast the front is. It no longer sticks on with double sided tape its actually held onto the front with 3 bolts. The rear looks the same but we have not confirmed.
Why not use the VA Group-n pitch stop mount (psm)? That way the psm compliments the trans mount. Why did you choose the Perrin unit? I'm not buying half of the stuff you said about reasons to upgrade.
The group N mount is fine, we are just showing people other options that we carry. And okay that's fine if you don't believe the reasons to upgrade. If you own a wrx you will eventually see what we are talking about and change this out. Lots of people break them and they are very sloppy stock. It was mentioned in the video that the new wrx seemed smoother but over time I'm sure it will get sloppy like any other wrx and in that case this is a huge upgrade. If it wasn't a problem companies like Grimmspeed, IAG, Perrin, Torque Solution, or Subaru themselves wouldn't have made an upgrade.
I had the same Perrin pitch stop mount in my 2018 STI a long with the group n trans mount just like in this video and it made a huge difference in overall shifter feel and smoothness. Edit: But that being said I now have a 2022 WRX and don't feel like it really needs it as mentioned in the video the out of the box tightness and feel is much improved over the VA so I don't think it stands to gain as much.
@@okseby how do you like the wrx compared to your sti? Seems like the turbo lag being minimal almost non existent and pulling until redline makes the car feel faster than the sti given that the sti turbo takes forever to spool.
There's a link in the description to all the pitch stops we carry. But if you want the exact one we used in this video you can find it here: www.importimageracing.com/products/perpsp-drv-101bk-perrin-pitch-stop-mount-wrx-2002-2021-sti-2004-2021-impreza-2002-2014
That is highly recommended to follow the torque specs Perrin says in the install manual: Tighten front nut and bolt to 37ft-lbs and rear bolt to 43ft-lbs
It should be fairly easy with a flat head screw driver or pick. You can always remove the quick release clip from the pipe and reinstall it once it’s out of the car.
I hate too much NVH. For example I hated hard engine mounts on my bugeye. They were group N. Might not have even been poly. perrin PItch stop isn't supposed to be a big difference (it's not holding your engine in place and weighted).
See I disagree, I think the dumbest thing ever is not understanding car guys are gunna tinker with cars if they are brand new. There is always room for improvement and we enjoy our hobby.
Thanks for shouting out to people new to Subaru and explaining what this part is and what it does
Just picked up my 2022 WRX and it absolutely needs the pitch stop. No matter how smooth I shift, there’s always a little slop to 1st and 2nd, drives me nuts! Will be throwing in the Perrin here shortly, thanks for another great vid IIR!
The STI short throw shifter makes a huge difference as well. Enjoy the new ride! 👍
The order that you reinstalled the retainer clip on the charge pipe confuses me. If the clip's function is to hold the charge pipe in place, why don't you reinsert the charge pipe fully and then snap the retainer clip back in place to lock it? I haven't worked with this before, but it seems akin to tightening a hose clamp before putting the hose in.
Always enjoy your uploads! Still waiting to see you guys do an install for rear subframe inserts lol. Its probably tricky to figure out what would fit but I look forward to you guys finding out what works.
Great video, except the intercooler bolts are 12mm, not 13.
Thank you for the correction!
Omg that intercooler installs SO MUCH easier than the Sti
It's very nice!
Ordered one. It’s otw then I’ll be watching this again. Went w the Perrin, I don’t trust the holes in the grimmspeed one.
Does the bolts need to be torqued to a specific spec?
always worries me lol no install videos ever torque to spec. sometimes its more important than others, but yeah, should use torque wrench...
Yes, I think it was 38 for the front, 43 for the rear
I hate how easy the intercooler goes back on lol, why can’t my ej intercooler be like this
Just completed this. Thanks for the awesome video! Keep up the great work!!!
Thank you!
Great vid! Does the pitch stop help with the jerkiness going from 1st to 2nd gear?? Or do you think installing the STI short shifter is better for the jerkiness?? I just got my new 2022 WRX and I love it! Thanks!
This is mostly to stop the engine from moving as much in the engine bay, which will likely increase vibrations and any jerkiness you feel. A short shifter or shifter stop might help you more. Also try practicing with the clutch to see if you can find a "sweet spot" for your shifts.
He's talking about the elastic band effect this car is horrible for. I've been driving manual cars and trucks my whole life, and I've never experienced anything like this car. Release the clutch too soon, and the thing starts bucking like a bronco.
Okay.. I have a stupid question. Why does the aftermarket pitch stop mount, make the engine noises louder than the stock?
The stiffer bushings connecting the engine to the car allow for more reverberation to enter the cabin. Hence more audible engine noise 😊
@importimageracing #importimage racing How long did this take?
I don't have a garage and live in an apartment. Debating just taking it to my shop. My biggest concern is boost leaks. I don't want to start removing parts that cause boost leaks. My 05 STi, God I loved it (612whp), but every time anything was removed that could cause a boost leak I got one. One shop even pressure tested every time they removed parts like this (for free). Which is great it it's free, but rare. I've never had a new car and I don't want to mess with things and create problems.
This was a very easy install. For this, you shouldn't run into any sorts of leaks as these parts can only go one way. I'd say if you have never done this before, it'd take you 30min to an hour. But, if you have an impact and are mechanically inclined, this should only take you 15-30min :)
Did you mention if the same pit stops from the 4th gen will fit the 22?
Thanks in advance! Your videos already helped me tons with mine and only have had it 5 days.
Yep. This car uses the same pitch stop as the 4th gen! And anytime!
@@ImportImageRacing question! I just ordered a k and n filter for it, 33-5092 part number. Wondering if it’s the right size. Grimm speed is selling the 22wrx ones that are also compatible with the 4th Gen STIs so figured I’d go with whatever k and n recommended for 2019 sti to fit the 2022 wrx
@@sharpshotta that is correct. We have not checked yet but Grimmspeed has confirmed the 19-21 STI filter fits. So the 33-5092 would be the K&N equivalent of the 19-21 sti Grimmspeed dry con filter. So you should be good to go!
@@ImportImageRacing thanks brotha. Maybe one day I’ll see you around. Fellow Floridian. NFSG
I remember when I had my 2016 WRX, the location where the pitch stop connected to the firewall was very thin. I remember that a lot of people complained about that. Did Subaru fix this by reinforcing that area for 2022?
I came here looking for the exact same info. I was hoping for a view of it, but iirc when I looked at mine in person a few months back, it was much beefier than the VA was
@@pyroguyFTW that's good to know. I can't remember which video I watched since I made this comment, but, I did find out that the firewall pitch stop location is definitely beefier.
Subaru did reinforce the firewall mount location on newer model WRX's and STi's!
@@ImportImageRacing I noticed that when I did mine! It definitely is more reinforced than the original VA ones. Right now I'm debating on a trans mount, but I've got poly diff inserts and crossmember bushings that are going in during the next oil change. Once that's done, all I'll need is a proper tuning solution and to figure out what 5v output to use to control my methanol flow, and I'll be cherry.
It's actually a 12 Bolt socket. FYI
Intercooler bolts are 12mm not 13mm
Thanks, I'll let cody know
Would it be fine if this was my first install on my 22 wrx or should I start with transmission and differential mods like you guys did also I already have a sti short shifter installed by dealer
This would be okay for a first mod, there's no specific order you would need to upgrade the mounts. It's a great upgrade over stock!
Weird mechanism for the charge pipe and IC to TB connections
Cody! My 22 is making a weird noise while idling. Sounds kinda like a grinding beat every second. I need your help!
Grinding? If you have a manual it could be the throw out bearing or something in the clutch assembly or it could be something on the pulley system, A/C Compressor, alternator, or water pump. Being such a new car if its making a concerning noise I would take it back to the dealer and have them scope it out under warranty whatever it ends up being, it should be fully covered!
@@ImportImageRacing taking it in on Tuesday. Hopefully they can fix it and better yet tell me what caused it. Will keep you in the loop.
@@ImportImageRacing just left Subaru they said it’s the ac compressor. They are going to order one, said because of the supply chain it could take two weeks. They will call me when it’s in, and fix it then. Said it won’t hurt the car to keep driving
Mine does the same thing. Was driving me crazy. Its coolant running through the lines. Turn on your heat or ac and you will see the change.
Some people have commented that 90A durometer bushings feel way too harsh while others do not seem to comment on it at all. What's your thought? Was it not too bad?
This mod will add some vibration to your daily drive, but isn't too harsh otherwise. It will make the car feel more spirited under acceleration.
since when did subaru use 13mm bolts?
I think they started on the VA chassis. Some odd and end bolts were 13mm. Most of the car can be taken apart with 17, 14, 12 & 10mm though.
@@ImportImageRacing Can confirm. Just had to use a 13 on my VA on a few bolts when putting some parts to stock to trade in my VA.
I installed one of these in my '16 WRX but then had some anxiety because I didn't install the corresponding pitch stop brace. I've heard different thing's about the PC brace welds in front of the firewall cracking, but I didn't think it would be a huge issue under normal driving conditions (not tracking or launching it).
I had it in for about 6 months with no issue before I finally sold the car. For the new VB, do you think it would be necessary to install the PC brace?
So that was a big issue that they revised eventually. It happened to people with stock pitch stops as well. It was a TSB and if yours cracked you could have it replaced for free under warranty. They eventually reinforced the area so the VB chassis probably carries over that revision.
Are the pitch stop mounts the same from Perrin 09-21?? I have one that I never put on my 2013 WRX it'd be nice to be able to throw that on the new one
They sure are!
Nice!! The mods are rolling out!
...not new parts, but instead carryover parts from the VA chassis that is compatible with the VB chassis. There are many carryover parts, ex. The VB cars use the STi transmission case, so the VA STi group-n trans mount fits. I would also believe that the VA group-n pitch stop mounts works too instead of spending extra money on the Perrin piece....
The VB chassis does not use the STI Transmission case. The VA STI mount only works because they switched back to it. The wrx always used that mount and they just changed it out for the VA chassis for some reason. All sub 14 wrx and sti used that mount. And the VA chassis pitch stops do transfer over. We didn't choose the perrin one for any specific reason. We carry tons of brands including the group N mount. They all fit the same.
I just installed the Perrin pitch stop mount on the 2022 WRX and I was wondering does the firewall bracket seem to be improved from previous years? Or do you think it can benefit from the Perrin bracket brace? If so have you guys tested previous years to see if they fit?
It seems better than previous years. There was a TSB recall on the 15-16 model years for the welds breaking on the firewall and it was revised in 2017 and I don't believe it has been common since. However, the extra peace of mind is nice. We haven't personally tested out that part on this car yet.
Out of curiosity, did you struggle with separating the charge pipe? Mine is giving me all kinds of hell.
There's no way you tightened that front bolt to 444 in.lb with those tiny wrenches. If I did that at my job I wouldn't record it because it would be evidence at my trial. I've seen guys given the option of paying 900k in damages and jail time or relinquish their license and resign for smaller mistakes. It irks me how automotive technicians give all technicians a bad name. Not using a torque wrench on powertrain components is beyond amateur.
Do all the existing subaru emblems fit? Is the sizing any different?
They are different. Atleast the front is. It no longer sticks on with double sided tape its actually held onto the front with 3 bolts. The rear looks the same but we have not confirmed.
Why not use the VA Group-n pitch stop mount (psm)? That way the psm compliments the trans mount. Why did you choose the Perrin unit? I'm not buying half of the stuff you said about reasons to upgrade.
The group N mount is fine, we are just showing people other options that we carry. And okay that's fine if you don't believe the reasons to upgrade. If you own a wrx you will eventually see what we are talking about and change this out. Lots of people break them and they are very sloppy stock. It was mentioned in the video that the new wrx seemed smoother but over time I'm sure it will get sloppy like any other wrx and in that case this is a huge upgrade. If it wasn't a problem companies like Grimmspeed, IAG, Perrin, Torque Solution, or Subaru themselves wouldn't have made an upgrade.
Doesn’t really matter the brand as long as it does what it needs to best. No need to have group-n everything. Mix and matching isn’t a big deal.
Calm down bud. Doesn't matter brand you use. Go with what you're comfortable with. Don't make it such a big deal
I had the same Perrin pitch stop mount in my 2018 STI a long with the group n trans mount just like in this video and it made a huge difference in overall shifter feel and smoothness.
Edit: But that being said I now have a 2022 WRX and don't feel like it really needs it as mentioned in the video the out of the box tightness and feel is much improved over the VA so I don't think it stands to gain as much.
@@okseby how do you like the wrx compared to your sti? Seems like the turbo lag being minimal almost non existent and pulling until redline makes the car feel faster than the sti given that the sti turbo takes forever to spool.
What’s the SKU for the one u just install?? i don’t wanna get the wrong one!
There's a link in the description to all the pitch stops we carry. But if you want the exact one we used in this video you can find it here: www.importimageracing.com/products/perpsp-drv-101bk-perrin-pitch-stop-mount-wrx-2002-2021-sti-2004-2021-impreza-2002-2014
Mine are def not 13mm bolts
Yeah mine are all 12mm
Looks like you lost that bolt at 1:10 😂 gotta hate that
Son of a!
😊👍🏼
What’s ft/lb should these bolts be tightened to?
hey please tag me if u find out thanks!
@@fakesti.channel Perrin says in the install manual: Tighten front nut and bolt to 37ft-lbs and rear bolt to 43ft-lbs
Does the bolts on the pitch stop have to b tighten to spec ?
That is highly recommended to follow the torque specs Perrin says in the install manual: Tighten front nut and bolt to 37ft-lbs and rear bolt to 43ft-lbs
@@daneyoung7770 much appreciated thank you
Hey guys, any tips on removing the charge pipe? I can’t get it to disconnect 😭
It should be fairly easy with a flat head screw driver or pick. You can always remove the quick release clip from the pipe and reinstall it once it’s out of the car.
You guys are awesome! seems like the bottom part of the quick release clip was causing the difficult disconnection. Thanks again! @@ImportImageRacing
@@Drizzlee44 you got it! We’re proud of you 🤘🏻😍🤘🏻
1:11 I saw that! :)
Oooo good catch! I was fishing in the engine bay with a magnet tool for a bit after that 😅
Absolute pain in the ass to slide the perrin one in
The NVH isn't worth it on a daily, unless you're going full race car.
There is hardly any NVH added with this. The solid ones sure, but these are hardly louder than factory.
I hate too much NVH. For example I hated hard engine mounts on my bugeye. They were group N. Might not have even been poly. perrin PItch stop isn't supposed to be a big difference (it's not holding your engine in place and weighted).
Does this void warranty?
Adding a pitch stop does not
Deff a 12 not 13
Those are not 13mm 😂
WHY?! Changing brand new OEM parts is the dumbest thing ever!
Not sure where that logic comes from? Getting rid of sloppy factory mounts is always a good thing whether the cars new or not.
@@ImportImageRacing It's guys like @buco that cause Subaru to ship with rubber mounts instead of Polyurethane from the factory!
See I disagree, I think the dumbest thing ever is not understanding car guys are gunna tinker with cars if they are brand new. There is always room for improvement and we enjoy our hobby.