WEDGEHEAD by E L & B OUTDOORS Broadhead Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ค. 2024
- This is a test of the 120 gr Original Wedgehead broadhead, by E L & B Outdoors.
Here is summary of my 2022 Testing Procedure & Scoring w/ the scores of the Wedgehead posted in parenthesis as well.
Total Wedgehead Score: 88.85 pts = 9 Golden Arrows
1. Flight Forgiveness (20%, 16 pts)
This is not just a test of how heads fly out of my bow, as it was in the past. With a well tuned bow, properly built arrows & good form, almost every head flies well. That's why in the past most heads got a flight score of 9 or 10. But that doesn't help those who may not have perfectly tuned bows/arrows/good form. So now I am gauging Flight Forgiveness. This is based on how the head flies for me, how well it spins, how "sensitive" the flight is to imperfections, & the exposed surface area of the blades. The max score of a Mech is 20 & the max score of a Fixed is 16.
2. Cut Size (20%, 13.55 pts)
The more tissue being cut, the more lethal the head, all else equal. The entrance cut, total cut, & width of the cut (a crucial variable for bloodletting) are all scored:
The entrance cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" then that fraction is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.25+".5=1.75 = 4.9 pts)
The max cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" as well, then that fraction is is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.75" = 4.9 pts)
The max cutting diameter is compared to a standard of 2.0", then that fraction is weighted to 6% of the score. (1.25" = 3.75 pts)
3. Blades (20%, 19.35 pts)
Initial sharpness (9%, 200 grams = 10/10= 9 pts ) & Edge Retention (9%, +25 grams = 9.5/10 = 8.55 pts) are measured using the Edge On Up Sharpness Tester. The pressure needed for a blade to cut thru a copolymer wire is measured in grams.
Edge Retention is the loss of sharpness after the head is shot in Penetration Test 1, thru 1/2" MDF and 2/3" rubber foam mat & Clear Ballistics FBI gel. For every 50 "grams" of sharpness lost, 1 point is deducted from 10.
What are some sharpness scores for common edges?
A butter knife takes 2000 grams of pressure to break the co polymer wire.
A new high end cutlery edge: ~ 375 grams of pressure.
A utility razor blade: 200 grams.
Based on the many broadheads I have tested, here is my scoring scale:
Out of the Box Sharpness:
0-200 gr: 10
201-300 gr 9
301-400 gr: 8
401-500 gr: 7
501-600 gr: 6
601-700 gr: 5
701-800 gr: 4
801-900 gr: 3
901-1000 gr: 2
1001-1100 gr: 1
1101+ gr: 0
Ease to resharpen or replace blades is judged & given 2% of the score. (9/10=1.8 pts)
4. Penetration (20%, 15.95 pts)
There are 3 penetration tests:
Pen Test 1: 1/2" MDF, 2/3" rubber foam mat, Clear Ballistics FBI gel. Depth of penetration is compared to a standard of 9" & weighted to 9% of the score. (6.75" = 6.75 pts)
Pen Test 2: Layered cardboard. # of layers penetrated is compared to a standard of 70 layers & weighted to 9% of the score.
(56 layers=7.2 pts)
Angled Penetration Test: How effectively does the head penetrate 1/4" MDF covered by carpet at a 45 degree angle. This accounts for 2% of the score. (2/2pts)
5. Durability (20%, 20 pts)
Each head is shot thru 1/2" MDF 3 times. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 12% of the score. (12 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot thru 22 ga steel plate twice. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 5% of the score. (10/10 = 5 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot into concrete once. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 3% of the score. (10/10 = 3 pts)
Steel plate & concrete are certainly not "realistic" mediums, but they do reveal the outer limits of a head's durability.
BONUS: +1 for extra forgiving flight
+2 for extra super thick blades
+1 for extra nice holes
TOTAL WEDGEHEAD SCORE: 88.85 pts = 9 Golden Arrows
Price of Wedgehead: $16.66/head
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It’s like they designed it around your test, very impressive
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John thanks again for another good test. I love the fact that you always are so positive towards products and have a good outlook on how the broadheads do.
Thank you Eric.
I was impressed from the moment I seen it up close. I was at the edge of my seat on this one. No broadhead ever got my attention like that. All I can say is wow.
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So cool after your review I went and ordered mine! They get here today and will be in the stand this weekend with it!
Nice! Good luck.
I was pleasantly surprise3d at how good they did being open bladed like that with little support so it seemed at 1st. Im all for these small companies thriving so its great to see them do good!..very impressed!
Yep. That steel and thickness make it pretty darn tough.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures And it is tool steel and hard as all heck,but yet able to be sharpened. It's an impressive mix. I too looked @ no inner connectors within and thought,this will get caved in on the steel and concrete, but ? It was tough as nails.
If nothing else, they found a great combo of hardness and tool steel to work off of with other designs.
Great looking broadhead! Keep up the great reviews. Just looking at all the info you provide in the description is impressive analytical you tests are great!
Thank you Jason!
Another great test! What a cool design, I love seeing these new ideas and designs coming from the "little guys"! Love to see some kills with this head.
Thank you
Thank you John for another great review. I've been doing some of my own tests of heads while hunting. I've been really liking the grim reaper razor cut ss whitetail special. I just took my biggest buck to date the other day. He ran 10 steps and dropped. I haven't had to track deer since I've been using the reapers.
Nice! Congratulations Jay.
A very solid performance, and not a bad price! I was pleasantly surprised with how well it penetrated.
Yep
Wow! Very nice! I am impressed by the perf5of this broadhead.
Yep.
I double lunged a Doe with these this weekend. She went 60-70 and fell like a ton of bricks. Took big chunks out of both lungs. 10/10 recommend.
Nice! Congratulations. Thanks for sharing that experience.
1/8" tool steel awesomeness. Amazing test. Thanks!
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I did not expect that design to do as well as it did. very nice
Yep.
Wow thats crazy cool. Impressive all the way around on everything.
Right?
Wow, I like that head. Thanks for doing this review.
Thank you
I would give them a shot. thanks again for all the testing.
Thanks Chris.
Will be buying these! What a broadhead!
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Sweet head! Great test, thank you.
Thank you
Boy I was skeptical about the width/venting but wow! That's very impressive, love how thick the blades are as well.
Yep.
I bought some. These are so dang tough and fly like a field point!
Nice.
John, 100% winner ,winner, chicken dinner !!! That is a hard steel head ! That steel plate hole, is what I always key on was devastating. The concrete shot finalized it for me when that chip came flying off. I think those fat bleeders prevented the head from sticking into the block like the Crimson Talon Cleaver did. I appreciate what the fat bleeders did, but i'd love to see this head fly without them, or with a single bevel.
John great find on a not known head from an up and coming USA company. EL and B ? For an initial effort ? You ACED the test IMHO.
Thank you Mike. It's a brand new company--just a dude and his kids in North Carolina. Pretty cool.
Of all your test this one might just be a buyer!
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It definitely outperformed my expectations.
Yep.
This broadhead is truly impressive!! I love this design. Maybe they could also offer in in a single bevel profile
I was thinking the same thing. I think it would have opened it up a little more in the steel plate creating more of a wound channel
Maybe so...but not sure how much better that would make it.
WOW, super cool head!!
Right?
Ty, hope all is well 👊😎
:)
This looks a solid broadhead and great review. Glad it’s made in US .
Yep.
That thing is a beast!
Right?
I am very impressed definitely want to give them a try
Nice
@@LuskArcheryAdventures
In your opinion would this broadhead work with a recurve or long bow?
Pretty impressive for a paint mixing paddle:)
That’s a good one
Haha. That's funny.
Man, imagine that as a single bevel and the wedge being a single bevel to match the side of the blade it's on... Impressive head!
Thanks for the comment.
Picked up a pack of them. Nice looking heads, gonna shoot them a bit over the next few days. Cool to see something new from a small company.
Nice. Good luck
VERY impressive!!!!
Right?
I bought these and used them during hunting season. Didn't get a shot off but it is awesome.
Good to hear.
I was just amazed at the performance and results. Cutting edge sharpness and retention was crazy. And the structural integrity. A guy could sharpen those lateral ribs some with a small file I’m thinking.
Thanks Tim.
My splitting maul has wedges like that on its side, to help open up (split) the wood.
Think of how those wedges on the broadhead will open up and/or shatter bone. This broadhead will be devastating! 👍🏼
Yeah, pretty cool.
Wow! Very Impressive! ... 😎👍
:)
For a cast part, it held up well. I like it.
Yep.
A single bevel version would be awesome to see them come out with!
They would have to use such a thin steel to make this design in single bevel
Yeah, but I'm not sure you'd gain any benefit from it.
Wow I’m impressed very durable.
Right?
Great video! Really cool broadhead. I would like to see this one on some animals if you get a chance.
I'd like to...but there aren't enough animals for me to test them all on :)
I’ve killed 2 animals.m with the.lm. Doe and buck. Both fell within 10 seconds. Takes huge holes, not cuts, out of their lungs
Wow impressive broadhead
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I shoot solid legends 125 and would totally shoot these . Thanks sir. Cool broadheads.
Thank you
Impressive I would like to give those a try
Yep.
This really is impressive, I'm interested to see what they do next.. 4 blade, maybe
That would be cool too.
Just ordered some!
Nice
Great review mate, very impressive head nice solid broadhead you can hunt any game animals with that broadhead from a rabbit too a Cape buffalo 👍👍🏹🏹
Yep. Thank you for watching & commenting.
Wow! You don't see that very often. A broad-head that survived the Lusk gauntlet.
Haha. Thanks John.
Good job
Thank you
Oooooo now those are on my list 😁
Pretty cool.
Cooler than I thought it would be especially for someone like me who used a 400 fps crossbow because my arms busted up all my heads are in a tool steel S7 A2 and 4140 all great tough arrow head steels.
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How close to your field points did they impact. I also shoot a crossbow that's 400 fps and have been looking to change to something more durable than the Rage hypodermic I've been shooting.
Another great video. I like the wedgehead. U ever get a chance to test ranchfairy 3 blade. Would love to see how well it does
I've not. But I think it's just the Tuffhead, made out of a different steel, right? I have tested those. Great heads...though I think they'd be better if they were shorter. I don't subscribe to the 3:1 ratio theory :)
I like it John! I bet he comes out with a single bevel head?????? I can see as well that as his product takes hold, I'm sure it's very easy to increase thickness on the inside of the cutting edge to increase weight????? It would be interesting to see this head to shot out to 70-yards? Like to also know if this head whistles thru flight????
I would not hesitate to order a pack and just give it the ole test spin! Excellent video John God bless, Mike
They fly really well at longer ranges too. I'm not really sure about flight noise, cause my vanes being helical are already pretty loud.
I ordered 2 packs of these after watching your video the ones I received were dull and the edges were uneven sucks really thought this would be a great head but I’ll be sticking to my magnus hornets
That’s disappointing to hear. Sorry about that. Not too difficult to sharpen up.
Have you done a review on the Rocky Mtn. Switchblade yet? I used 1 for spring bear n myself n the guide were extremely impressed by it...I shoot a 480 grain 30" arrow out of a 70lbs bow n @23 yards the arrow broke 2 ribs going in n 2 on the way out n the most impressive thing was that on the way out it cut the front leg just about off!!! N had it not hit a rock it would of been fine for another go.
2 reasons I bought n tried them. First was I was looking for a hybrid for my daughter to shoot, n 2nd they were super cheap n rocky mtn. has been at it for along time so they know what their doing. So sorry NAP I'm a Rocky Mtn. Guy now.. I can't say enough about them..my bear was 268 spring bear squared just under 6' so not a typical 180 lbs bear at all
Thanks for all u do, I love tinkering with my set up as well, but it usually screws everything up (lol)
I've not done that yet. I've tested some similar models, but not that one. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Great video, John! Curious, how was the noise during flight since they are vented?
I didn't notice anything much different from others.
I obviously see how well it performed, but those unsharpened min-wedges still have me scratching my head. I can only imagine they'd cause more unnecessary drag and why not sharpen them? But, still it seems to do pretty well here!
Yeah, I had the same thought. I'm guessing it's just more difficult to machine that way...it sure wouldn't hurt to have the sharpened.
That tested surprisingly well! How loud was it though?
I didn't really notice anything more than most heads.
Vary impressive
Right?
If I wanted to add a 5grain washer under the head to get it to 125 grains to match my field pionts, do you know the diameter measurement by chance? Thanks and solid work!
I don’t. Sorry. But I don’t think you’ll notice that 5 grs at all.
Hey Mr Lusk, do you have a cupon code for this braodhead yet? When you compaire this to the Afflictor 4 blade fixed, what head flies better? I am frequently only presented with 75-80 yard shots so I want a big wound channel that wont close and the best "true" flight I can get. Thank you for all your broadhead videos, really helps people like me. Cant wait to see so e of your deer hunts this season.
Thanks John. I've not compared the flight at those ranges yet. I'd venture to say this one might be a bit more forgiving at longer ranges due to the smaller surface area. I don't have a code for them yet.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Thank you. Will order a few packs and give them a whirl.
Concern I'd have is on a harder quartering away shot - will the blades, if it hits perfectly horizontal silltit deflect too much to be a fatal impact
Yeah...but I don't think that would be a concern for me on any shot I would take.
This is a very valid concern. I would not shoot this head at an animal quartering away.
Thats a cool head. Id love to hear some field results from someone!
Yeah, me too.
I double lunged a doe this weekend with these. Huge chunks gone and she fell in sight
@@LuskArcheryAdventures if you want the autopsy video of the doe I just killed with it let me know!
@@kingbronco6398 complete pass??
@@Tugboat1110 of course! Like butter.
How would you sharpen these broadheads? I have them and I can’t seem to get them resharpened after shooting a deer.
I'd just use a flat stone or a file shaped sharpener. Use a Sharpie to mark the bevel, then keep the bevel as flat to the stone as you can. You can tell if you're getting the correct bevel by the Sharpie disappearing.
How does having a shorter broad head length contribute to arrow flight?
The greater the surface area, the more friction there is in flight, which can cause heads to plane a bit. Shorter heads tend to have less surface area and those are more forgiving in flight.
Can you do a 2022 test for the magnus black hornet?
I'd like to. If someone sends me a pack, I'll fit it in.
Would you test the Palmer Extreme Cut 4-Blade Broadheads
Only if someone sends him some. All his broad heads are sent by viewers otherwise he could not afford to do them.
Thanks for the comment, MoneyandTime :) Happy to test them if the manufacturer or some viewer sends me a pack.
What stay sharp guide would work with these?
That's a good question...but I'm not sure. You should reach out to them and ask them.
Would love for you to test this one in the field
Yeah...not enough animals to test them all that way :)
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I know but this is a very unique one!
Have you tested or can you test the wasp 3 blade 100 grain jakhammer
Only if you send him some, all his test are by what viewers send him. Otherwise he could not afford to do these
I've not done that yet.
I ordered these and mine definitely didn't come this sharp.
I've heard that from some others. Not too hard to sharpen though.
My question is will it whistle in flight
I didn't notice anything more than normal...but my vanes are already pretty loud and the area I was shooting it was pretty loud as well.
Hmmmm wonder how it would perform on a crossbow
I bet it would do well.
Accuracy is the main thing in broad head to me.
Yeah...not much works well if they don't fly well.
Man, if it was not vented and have that weight up to 200 grains, it would be awesome
That would be a beast indeed. But due to the material and the thickness it was really durable as it is.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I bet! I just prefer a high foc, 300 grains is good for my setup
Hey John get In touch with these guys for a promo code I just pre ordered but if not for you we would t even know about these heads
Yeah, I should ask them about that.
To goofy for me great video .
Thanks for watching
There is a bit of wobble but it is impressive no doubt
Yep.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I wonder if they make a lot of noise since they are vented with pretty big vents
You've got a really loud bow.
Well, it's only that way from how I set it up. On the distance shot, I am inside my kitchen, to get enough distance--and the camera/mic is right in front of me. On the other shots, I increase the volume 400%.
Who sells them
Only on their website.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures ok thanks I really like the looks of them
Killed my second deer with these 8 days ago. He fell in 70 yards. The first doe fell in sight. Huge holes taken out of lungs.
Nice. Thanks for sharing that experience.
Gotta get a pack
:)
The price isn't that bad either
Right?
Just a couple of notes: The Sheet metal showed the down side of this head. Any educated archer understands that the lethality comes from blood capillaries being cut which results in blood loss eg: dead game.. The sheet metal showed that if you want to punch holes in something, use this head... Just don't expect quick kills.. Also I disagree that "short profile heads penetrate better".. That's 100% not an accurate statement. For an average under-educated archer, these tests show durability at best.. They do not demonstrate lethality. Please know and understand the difference.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Seth. I've tested over 200 different broadheads and that is what I have seen over & over--at least in all the test mediums I have used. The Ashby 3:1 ratio idea is flawed; based on a faulty application of mechanical advantage. The shorter profile heads, all other things equal, have less surface area, and thus less friction against those blades, resulting in better penetration.
Re the bloodletting, when a head is zipping into an animal at nearly 300 fps, capillaries are going to be cut, no doubt. The main blades were very sharp, the wedge blades were just designed to open up the wound channel. I think them being sharpened would be even better, but I also don't scoff at the notion that they add to the bloodletting and lethality as they are.
Awesome broadhead.
Yep.
So, where do I buy them?
Only thru their website.
What is their web address. Having trouble finding these broadheads
@@redseethus2872 the company is E L & B outdoors, like the title says. elboutdoors.com/
Thank you