i miss that time, i remember when no one could even see savitar now he gets taken out by Nora, not even the cool nora(nora dahrk) but Nora west allen smh.
@@mrscorpionyt3170 Season 2 villain or not wtf are they gonna do when he rams his hand through their chests at the speed of light 💀💀💀💀 They did all the villains here dirty the only ones that should've stood a chance were the other speedsters
@@leomolina1605 except zoom was all about force lightning tricks and had no way of knowing it was a bad move. Similiar to savitar predictably stabbing Nora as he did her mother.
Teddy Sears gives it his all every time he gets on the show. That’s why I love his character so much. His cameo in Season 5 was so good. Such a small scene yet he conveyed so many emotions. Really great actor!
@@vitorhq1 I agree, next to Eobard Thawne. Zoom is terrifying and unpredictable what he'll try to do next, and Eobard has the history with Barry and he can be just as clever and evil.
I think I would have accepted that a lot more. These speedsters (yes...tha includes Godspeed unfortunately) are all very experienced with using their powers. Eddie on the other hand doesn't know how to use his powers properly and Flash is smacking him around. So to even the playing field, while the other speedsters are just about to kill the other heroes...BAM they lose their powers thanks to Eddie taking it away to gain the upper hand on the Barry and then the heroes defeat the villians.
@@scrublord101 Besides thawne none of them had the Negative Speedforce the least they could've done was keep the elements of their original colors and pull a Nora
i don't think it wouldn't make sense considering it was the negative speed force who brought them back not time travel i think. besides it looks cool on all of them especially zoom.
@@scrublord101 just want to point out that Savitar's armor is just for an upgrade. As a Barry time remnant he was still connected to the speed force, he's actually the only big bad speedster that used the speedforce instead of negative speed force or artificial speed/velocity X
Yeah but that has nothing to do with the real question we’re all asking What the HECK went wrong when they wrote this episode?! It’s not even the cgi that’s the problem, the cgi was pretty much even better than season 1 in my opinion (mainly throughout this fight scene), that’s why I’ve always have had a problem with the writing more when no one seems to talk about that and all they can talk about is look, here’s another cgi monster that looks like a welll… cgi monster. What’s wrong with that when the quote on quote “cgi monster” is being portrayed so badly, along with these ICONIC villains.
I miss when Zoom was powerful and wasn’t just all talk. 😂 I think I speak for everyone when I say the villains deserved SOOOOOOOOOO much more. We waited all this time for THIS?!
@@cruelty5780 Not Killer Frost. Khione. She's a goddess, kinda like the Speed Force itself so yeah, I can understand how she absorbed Hunter's lightning. Be it from the Speed Force or its negative counterpart, a lightning is still a lightning, and it's a natural element, isn't it?
@@byonemesis but faster than zoom? cmon man its all bad and he stand there unmasked his face talking bad shit like hes thug LOL he just could ended all the cops in blink of the eye its all disapointment
@@AceDaProto_YT Oh yeah? so everyone leveled up and nonspeedsters are able to just react to speedsters? yeah bro, makes sense (not). you are such a sad little fanboy that you can't even see how they ruined the series you seem to love so much, it's because of fans that'll just swallow and accept everything they throw your way that writers don't bat an eye when delivering trash episodes like this.
@@AceDaProto_YTyes, all of the heroes "leveled up", but what about the other villains? Didn't they "leveled up" because of the negative speed force? Plus, how can the non speedsters, react way faster than the speedsters?
This should have been the entire premise of season 9, but we got more Flash and Friends. This show went so far down hill and the writing was atrocious this episode
@@explodev2550 the fact the final season of flash had so many episodes without the flash and was focused on the friends ruined it. Same problem as arrow the main character became a side character in their own show. The writing and how rushed this was was horrific and honestly I'm so sick of the Wells Thawne....like you just had Matt return as thawne a few episodes ago and go back to wells here I liked the show but man did it go down hill, this last episode is just proof
I wish you did the season with the whole season of Full of bad guys like this would be awesome season like it's cool with the whole season killing people that would have been awesome especially during zoom more screen time
Bro cecile defeating hella god speeds is bs… man literally pulled a naruto and rushed her ass and she still has the time to turn with her hair flicking around to just no scope every godspeed coming at super speed…
@Chad King agreed m always thought I was weird that they didn’t end the series off of that episode. The whole cobalt blue situation felt so rushed since it had only 3 episodes. Having Barry stop thawne from killing him mom the having Nora born would’ve been the best finale imo.
"Too bad Neither of you are Powerful enough... to LOCK UP THE DARKNESS" What a fricking line, gives me goosebumps even now. Reminded me of season 2, when he introduced himself as this shows greatest ever villain
In the Flash s1 ep 2, we can see when Barry was talking to Iris about his speed in Flashtime, we see Iris frozen and at that time, Barry wasn’t even close to Mach 1. In s2, Zoom was moving faster that Mach 4, In s3, we can only see Savitar moving faster than Mach 3 even though his faster than that, In s7, Godspeed was moving at Mach 5, In s8, Barry with 5% of his speed (no forces) was running at mach 20 and Thawne (no forces) was right behind him but a little slower, Then how did Kione and Cecile defeat Zoom and Godspeed!?!???! Like how can they react so fast🤨 And how did Eddie even convince the other speedster? It’s like the speedsters became dumb, slower and less evil😂
Why I never liked is the fact that speed is inconsistent in the entire show. Zoom is actually faster than Mach 4. If you watch trajectory Barry has to go Mach 3.3 to stop her which makes that his fastest. Then in the next few episodes he makes a tachyon accelerator which made him not only 4 times faster but fast enough to travel to different earths. The show explicitly states that it’s just as fast as zoom making zoom’s speed Mach 13.2 and Barry’s speed as well. I can’t really remember the rest since I haven’t watched in years
Yeah its litterally bs. I know this is some nerdy sh*t but in my vr game blade & sorcery, i can move at super speed and trust me, you can effortlessly deflect any attac, any fireball, any punch, arrow or even bullet. Team flash should’ve been completely dead here.
I lover how the only speedster to ever catch a bolt of lightning and throw it back to the source, dies because of lightning thrown at him. Great writing cw
Karma., and if you actually stop and THINK about it instead of nitpicking the scene, it makes complete sense if you're in Zoom's shoes. Zoom threw the lighting at Kione, intending to attack her, and she absorbed it. Not only did she surprise HIM with that, but she IMMEDIATELY threw it back at him with no hesitation. There was no way for Zoom to counter that. Back in season 2, Zoom knew exactly what was coming, because he was the one who taught Barry that, and knew he'd immediately go for it. ....doesn't help that back then, Barry took fucking forever to do it.
@@Sonario648you can't be serious. What do you mean he has no counter, he is literally a speedster and he is the only speedster who we know for a fact can throw back lightning. You are insane to defend this trash writing. Thawne was bastardized years ago and Godspeed was always mid, Savitar's fight was at least a speedster fight so it was automatically better than the rest...but Zoom. Fuckin Zoom was the only villain who had remained goated from season 2 to his season 5 appearance and all his mentions. But the show had to make sure they ruined the only good villain they had left before ending the series. Absolute trash
@@forcecaptainoverlordsuprem2964 I wasn't saying he has no counter if he was PREPARED. I was saying he has no counter if he wasn't prepared. You really think even someone like Zoom could not only predict, but COUNTER a NON-SPEEDSTER catching and IMMEDIATELY throwing your attack back?
@@forcecaptainoverlordsuprem2964 agree this is the biggest disappointment I really wish the writers didn't bring these cool best villains back to life just for them to be trash on and have their characters ruin
sorry man but this is it there is no more flash its all over and it ended in disappointment why do i get the feeling that higher up on the food chain they were mandated to end it this bad to make the cinematic flash with its nut job actor look good compaired to this.
Zoom with red lightning ?! Awesome ! But I don't like the fact that new caitlin can stop zoom's powers. Edit : this bullshit caitlin is a "godess", I missed that part but she's to OP against Zoom. Main villains were beaten in few seconds. TRASH FINALE ! Godspeed should have kill the clown Cecile, Thawne should have kill that trash chester and his girlfriend, same thing to savitar and zoom.
I thought it was well deserved after that horribly forced cringe meme worthy like delivery of “cant look up the darkness” what happened to Teddy’s acting ability 🤦
Why is Barry fighting Eddie and not his evil counterpart Reverse Flash? Did they really look at this episode go through with it? I have so many questions. I could direct the show better than this.
@@kingkong9892yeah but cmon RF is the Ultimate big bad no matter what anyone says the story should end with flash killing RF not pep talking his ancestor🤦♂️
Barry was trying to save Eddie because if he kept taking speed from the speed force he will over load and kill himself as well and Sense Barry is the fastest one out of all he should be the one to go after him
I must say the actions pretty good and at least they gave zoom one of the bigger defeats but this is a pretty underwhelming finale but at least it isn’t terrible, just anticlimactic. After a couple days I would say the zoom defeat isn’t terrible but the entire battle could be considered so, the ladder half where the goodbye’s take place are the best part by far
I love how as soon as that Jitter employee heard the lighting, he was like "Oh shit! Everyone, get down!" Dude has been through too much and just knows when shit's about to hit the fan on his day at work.
@@Exxezze Fr, back in season 2 Zoom was literally fast enough to catch lightning from a speedster, but this show expects us to believe that a normal speed person throwing lightning at him is too fast for him
He was still egotistical at times because he knew he could kill any of them at any second. Obviously that carried over to this episode and he wasn't experienced with Khione who was a literally Goddess.
@@iwasneverherenorthere that means nothing, he just stupidly stood there and went down to his own attack instead of, I don’t know moving out of the fucking way. For fucks sake he didn’t even use any time remnants, something he has consistently shown the willingness to abuse.
How did they butcher the finale this bad? God i hate fiona or whatever her name is how did she one shot zoom? nobody cares about any of flash's team other than him
0:42-0:44 they reused the lightning chase from The flash vs Rival from season 3 LMAO. Back when they still hand drew the lightning and not make it look like lasagna. They're literally mocking us.
When zoom says the line "lock up the darkness" it feels badass it feels like a threat and that maybe he is so danger as he used to be but then he just gets hit with a lightning.. a thing we saw him dodge once..
We can just say this isn't Zoom. This isn't Godspeed. This isn't Savitar. The real ones died and stayed dead. Whatever these dudes were, just Eddie's Walmart versions.
Zoom was genuinely the most scary and fluid one of the villain speedsters shown in the finale props to the actor. Underwhelming battle although with khione
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0:19. Isn't Kramer supposed to have her mimicing powers activated by now? That woman in the left. If Zoom were to use his powers in front of Kramer, shouldn't that automatically make Kramer trigger her powers to mimic Zoom's powers?
If you look at the Eddie vs Barry fight from 0:42-0:44 , you'll see that they just reused the clips of Flash vs Reverse flash and Flash vs Rival from s1 and s3
Love when JWS makes an appearance, AND he even drops the nod to the original show with the speed stealing comment AND the cherry on top is the classic theme playing in the background!
I’m actually astounded that they managed to fuck this up. You’re telling me Zoom, the guy who taught Barry to throw lighting and subsequently dodged said lighting only to throw it back at Barry, is totally unable to do the same thing with fucking Snow or whatever the fuck her name is now?
It was already proven that Zoom is stronger then Frost. Go back to season 2. Earth 2 Frost did hit Zoom and did say go. Earth 2 Frost also said she cannot hold him any longer and told the rest to leave. Long story short, when Earth 2 Frost was about to kill her doppelganger, Zoom came and killed Earth 2 Frost. It proves that Zoom can beat Frost but cannot beat Khione. The footage already tells the story. If you wanted to see zoom fighting against Frost, you just need to go back to season 2.
This Zoom acts more like the Rival from S3 than THE actual Hunter Zolomon from S2. What a fucking shame, we’ll always remember the true Zoom, this episode doesn’t count Also wtf was that goofy ass flip before he shot the lightning 😭😭
I’m glad zoom said “more of ccpd’s finest for me to slaughter you shouldn’t have” and “you can’t lock up the darkness” like cool callback but zoom was my favorite but the more baldy mask and red lightning SUCKED and they never interacted with Barry.
Zoom saying his line and switching from his Hunter voice to his Zoom voice feels so artificial, not as threatening and monstrous as it did in Season 2. God forbid that horrible CGI when he tossed the lightning, bro looked like he genuinely had no idea what was going on 😢
@@nathanramos4563 her powers make no sens and zoom could of killed her and caught the lightning zoom was alive way longer than kione she was born in season 9 so should not exist atall to begin with
There is no way that there isn’t a last fight. It’s too late to bring Thawne back as the last villain even though he should be. Barry should fox the timeline at the end of the episode ending with throwing the lightning bolt at himself
There once was a time when just one of these villains could take the entire flash team
i miss that time, i remember when no one could even see savitar now he gets taken out by Nora, not even the cool nora(nora dahrk) but Nora west allen smh.
now everyone can somehow react at super speed
In Season 5 Episode 22 it takes 6 people to take out 1 Thawne
except godspeed lol
@@kermit1211 right. Like all these villains should easily be able to blitz team flash except jay and Barry
God this finale is disappointing.. Hunter was genuinely threatening in season two, this is just sad.
This script writter is so bad.
I haven't seen this yet. But I'm sure reverse flash kills Eddie.
@@jovelhamilton601 💀
@@Apiestine wtf they made nora beat savator
@@daviddelarosa4955 I was wrong
I never thought I could be so underwhelmed, but The Flash always manages to go beyond my expectations
One last time, for nostalgia’s sake
mid already from one clip, back brought the ass lightsabers and zoom is losing to khione and mark
Brought back all the villains just to make them look lame and team flash look good. This show is pretty good at being crappy
They literally ruined the original epic "darkness" line of zoom
@@knight4864 well that’s cobalts power the sword !
No way they found a way to make Zoom underwhelming FFS
Team flash just leveled up you can’t do get that zoom was season 2 at the beginning
@@mrscorpionyt3170 Season 2 villain or not wtf are they gonna do when he rams his hand through their chests at the speed of light 💀💀💀💀
They did all the villains here dirty the only ones that should've stood a chance were the other speedsters
@@mrscorpionyt3170 but he got amped by the Negative Speedforce, so he "leveled up" too
@@leomolina1605 except zoom was all about force lightning tricks and had no way of knowing it was a bad move.
Similiar to savitar predictably stabbing Nora as he did her mother.
@@Gaonkkk THANK YOU
Teddy Sears gives it his all every time he gets on the show. That’s why I love his character so much. His cameo in Season 5 was so good. Such a small scene yet he conveyed so many emotions. Really great actor!
Zoom is the best Flash TV Show villain... Period.
@@vitorhq1 I agree, next to Eobard Thawne. Zoom is terrifying and unpredictable what he'll try to do next, and Eobard has the history with Barry and he can be just as clever and evil.
@@TsukabuNosoratori2 true, though lately Eobard just doesn't seem the same. I liked him somewhat in this episode
His acting was dog shit this ep he was perfect in season 2 now they just milking the killing police officer thing
Well everybody, the flash. The show that was amazing but sucks like a hot giant pile of garbage now.
It would have made WAY more sense if all the other evil speedsters lost their battles b/c Cobalt decided to take their speed
Right??? They would be beating the shit out of team Flash and then SNAP!! No speed
I think I would have accepted that a lot more. These speedsters (yes...tha includes Godspeed unfortunately) are all very experienced with using their powers. Eddie on the other hand doesn't know how to use his powers properly and Flash is smacking him around. So to even the playing field, while the other speedsters are just about to kill the other heroes...BAM they lose their powers thanks to Eddie taking it away to gain the upper hand on the Barry and then the heroes defeat the villians.
That would have been way better…they should have let you write the episode lol
@@TruthSeeker23099 To be honest, anything is better than this BS
@Velocity yeah I agreed
i think it should be mentioned that the reason why the evil speedsters have red speed is because they're all atuned with the negative speed force
obviously zoom had velocity, savitar with his suit and godspeed with fake speed. and thawne obviously negative speed force
@@scrublord101 Besides thawne none of them had the Negative Speedforce the least they could've done was keep the elements of their original colors and pull a Nora
i don't think it wouldn't make sense considering it was the negative speed force who brought them back not time travel i think. besides it looks cool on all of them especially zoom.
@@scrublord101 just want to point out that Savitar's armor is just for an upgrade. As a Barry time remnant he was still connected to the speed force, he's actually the only big bad speedster that used the speedforce instead of negative speed force or artificial speed/velocity X
Yeah but that has nothing to do with the real question we’re all asking
What the HECK went wrong when they wrote this episode?!
It’s not even the cgi that’s the problem, the cgi was pretty much even better than season 1 in my opinion (mainly throughout this fight scene), that’s why I’ve always have had a problem with the writing more when no one seems to talk about that and all they can talk about is look, here’s another cgi monster that looks like a welll… cgi monster. What’s wrong with that when the quote on quote “cgi monster” is being portrayed so badly, along with these ICONIC villains.
I miss when Zoom had Blue Lightning
I miss when Zoom was powerful and wasn’t just all talk. 😂 I think I speak for everyone when I say the villains deserved SOOOOOOOOOO much more. We waited all this time for THIS?!
@@ItsADAMN that isnt even caitlyn or frost bro
@@ItsADAMN To be fair. Khione is a goddess. It's still shit but it makes sense.
@@ItsADAMN agreed, and have a timeline reset ending or something, id prefer that to watching these iconic antagonists get nerfed into the ground.
I mean if you think about it, Zoom having Negative Speed-Force is actually helping than the regular speed-force ever did
Zoom always will be one of the best villains in this entire show
Yeah he is the best villain this shows had but the way he got beat here is Pathetic
Not one of. The best
Savitar is alright, the thinker is eh, we won't talk about the other ones
@@kristijanveljaca1687 Thawne is #1 no cap
@@RealR34SONS No cap I agree
Love how everyone in this series gets super speed all of a sudden or the speedster just losses his speed when facing non speedsters 🤦🏽♂️
Everybody happens to have reaction time of a speedster it seems lmao
@@davidkosiba624 specially cecil oh i mean virtue
Khione is a goddess so it makes sense on her part
@@mysticvaulttv not really because zoom should
of been able to catch that lightning_bolt lile he did in season 2
Notice how the women beat the speedsters
The guys did nothing
How dare they bring back zoom and do this to him
Fr bruh same with Savitar he died in 4 seconds what the actual fuck
Fr zoom deserved more respect
They rlly shouldn’t have brought them back just to do this to them
@@Sensational_YT Bro was literally invisible in the first half of season 3
@@Grim2006 ok….but we talking about now
Season 2 memories. You can’t lock up the darkness.
Add the lightning throw as it's Hunter who taught Barry how to do that.
I understand berry be able to see the lighting throw but killer frost what!!!???
@@cruelty5780 Not Killer Frost. Khione. She's a goddess, kinda like the Speed Force itself so yeah, I can understand how she absorbed Hunter's lightning. Be it from the Speed Force or its negative counterpart, a lightning is still a lightning, and it's a natural element, isn't it?
@@byonemesis but faster than zoom? cmon man its all bad and he stand there unmasked his face talking bad shit like hes thug LOL he just could ended all the cops in blink of the eye its all disapointment
And they made it cringe
Zoom gave me chills when he said his iconic line: “YOU CAN’T LOCK UP THE DARKNESS”
Yeah from the season 2.
Bros watching the wrong episode
@@ulysses4989He literally said that on this scene
What is there to give you chills they literally completely ruined his character.
@@Luiz.325 Yeah and they used some cheap voice modulator and made Zoom run circles. Did his line give you chills too?
they literally just defeated all of the veteran antagonists in just 10 seconds… 😐
what a disappointment the truth, it can be a great chapter but it was disgusting
One of the worst episodes ever in my opinion
It’s because everyone is way more leveled up so stop hating. If you don’t like it then don’t watch it 😂
@@AceDaProto_YT Oh yeah? so everyone leveled up and nonspeedsters are able to just react to speedsters? yeah bro, makes sense (not). you are such a sad little fanboy that you can't even see how they ruined the series you seem to love so much, it's because of fans that'll just swallow and accept everything they throw your way that writers don't bat an eye when delivering trash episodes like this.
@@AceDaProto_YTyes, all of the heroes "leveled up", but what about the other villains? Didn't they "leveled up" because of the negative speed force? Plus, how can the non speedsters, react way faster than the speedsters?
All the villains should have been back for the entire 4 parter not just the last episode
I agree
This should have been the entire premise of season 9, but we got more Flash and Friends. This show went so far down hill and the writing was atrocious this episode
@@lifeinjersey9846I agree, I’m actually glad flash is over. We won’t have to see any more Shiite writing
@@explodev2550 the fact the final season of flash had so many episodes without the flash and was focused on the friends ruined it. Same problem as arrow the main character became a side character in their own show. The writing and how rushed this was was horrific and honestly I'm so sick of the Wells Thawne....like you just had Matt return as thawne a few episodes ago and go back to wells here
I liked the show but man did it go down hill, this last episode is just proof
Literally it should have an episode dedicated to each of the 4 especially Savitar, Zoom, & Thawne🔥🔥🔥
so caitlin can react to zooms lightning but zoom himself cant????
this is so weird bro 😭
ikr, he pulled the uno reverse before on barry before so this shouldn't have been an issue. so sad
That’s Khione not Caitlin
Barry didn't react when zoom reflect the lightning
While he caught Barry's
Funny, Zoom is milking the whole “ killing cops” thing
@@anthonyking9533 lol my point still stands, its not hate lol, it’s just pointing out
I wish you did the season with the whole season of Full of bad guys like this would be awesome season like it's cool with the whole season killing people that would have been awesome especially during zoom more screen time
It's like these new writers don't know what they're doing.
Anyone: *breathes*
Zoom: "IT'S TIME FOR PORK BARBECUE!"
@@MANJYOMETHUNDER111damn that’s good 😂😂😂
Shocking, Eddie was using the evil speedsters to get what he wanted.
Wow, who could've imagined it
1:48 it’s great that they brought back the 90s flash theme one more time
Peak.
I cannot hear it
They did
This was a joke... The side chatacters defeating main villains easily 😅😅 Cecile can even fly now 😅😅😅
Bro cecile defeating hella god speeds is bs… man literally pulled a naruto and rushed her ass and she still has the time to turn with her hair flicking around to just no scope every godspeed coming at super speed…
exactly what I said
@@Daniel-lx3nhwdym a Naruto
@@thelegendarymarioman8461 cloning
Fr they made the speedsters look like their street level it’s fucking stupid
This is shaping to be quite the ass of a finale
@Chad King right on that but how the hell did u even watch it I can’t find it
@Chad King agreed m always thought I was weird that they didn’t end the series off of that episode. The whole cobalt blue situation felt so rushed since it had only 3 episodes. Having Barry stop thawne from killing him mom the having Nora born would’ve been the best finale imo.
I miss season one and two when the show actually meant something
agree,s3 also not that bad, although season 1 and 2 is far better
I think 1 2 and 3 are the best honestly cant beat savitars theme either
@@zexalplays sipp
@@ultragamingcom 4?
@@Outlaw_YGO eh not really 4 is just so so..
"Too bad Neither of you are Powerful enough... to LOCK UP THE DARKNESS" What a fricking line, gives me goosebumps even now. Reminded me of season 2, when he introduced himself as this shows greatest ever villain
0:18 When I saw this scene, I was like, “David Singh has had a grudge against Zoom since Season 2 after what happened at CC Jitters 7 years ago.”
😢
Zoom really went down in one shot. nice to see teddy again atleast for a little bit.
In the Flash s1 ep 2, we can see when Barry was talking to Iris about his speed in Flashtime, we see Iris frozen and at that time, Barry wasn’t even close to Mach 1.
In s2, Zoom was moving faster that Mach 4,
In s3, we can only see Savitar moving faster than Mach 3 even though his faster than that,
In s7, Godspeed was moving at Mach 5,
In s8, Barry with 5% of his speed (no forces) was running at mach 20 and Thawne (no forces) was right behind him but a little slower,
Then how did Kione and Cecile defeat Zoom and Godspeed!?!???! Like how can they react so fast🤨
And how did Eddie even convince the other speedster? It’s like the speedsters became dumb, slower and less evil😂
Why I never liked is the fact that speed is inconsistent in the entire show. Zoom is actually faster than Mach 4. If you watch trajectory Barry has to go Mach 3.3 to stop her which makes that his fastest. Then in the next few episodes he makes a tachyon accelerator which made him not only 4 times faster but fast enough to travel to different earths. The show explicitly states that it’s just as fast as zoom making zoom’s speed Mach 13.2 and Barry’s speed as well. I can’t really remember the rest since I haven’t watched in years
i got 2 word for u. BAD WRITERS
Fax and the fact that they were amped up by the negative speed force too
Yeah its litterally bs. I know this is some nerdy sh*t but in my vr game blade & sorcery, i can move at super speed and trust me, you can effortlessly deflect any attac, any fireball, any punch, arrow or even bullet. Team flash should’ve been completely dead here.
I lover how the only speedster to ever catch a bolt of lightning and throw it back to the source, dies because of lightning thrown at him. Great writing cw
Karma., and if you actually stop and THINK about it instead of nitpicking the scene, it makes complete sense if you're in Zoom's shoes.
Zoom threw the lighting at Kione, intending to attack her, and she absorbed it. Not only did she surprise HIM with that, but she IMMEDIATELY threw it back at him with no hesitation. There was no way for Zoom to counter that.
Back in season 2, Zoom knew exactly what was coming, because he was the one who taught Barry that, and knew he'd immediately go for it. ....doesn't help that back then, Barry took fucking forever to do it.
@@Sonario648you can't be serious. What do you mean he has no counter, he is literally a speedster and he is the only speedster who we know for a fact can throw back lightning. You are insane to defend this trash writing. Thawne was bastardized years ago and Godspeed was always mid, Savitar's fight was at least a speedster fight so it was automatically better than the rest...but Zoom. Fuckin Zoom was the only villain who had remained goated from season 2 to his season 5 appearance and all his mentions. But the show had to make sure they ruined the only good villain they had left before ending the series. Absolute trash
@@forcecaptainoverlordsuprem2964 I wasn't saying he has no counter if he was PREPARED. I was saying he has no counter if he wasn't prepared. You really think even someone like Zoom could not only predict, but COUNTER a NON-SPEEDSTER catching and IMMEDIATELY throwing your attack back?
@@forcecaptainoverlordsuprem2964 agree this is the biggest disappointment I really wish the writers didn't bring these cool best villains back to life just for them to be trash on and have their characters ruin
@@Sonario648 you are trash a biggest disappointment and u a biggest fan of trash writers and bad writing
“YOU CANT LOCK UP THE DARKNESS!” Coldest line from zoom
Bro i don't understand how they butcher 3 op characters Zoom savitar and thawne. Istg they better return back cuz we're only half way through 😭
Godspeed should have kill Cecile.
sorry man but this is it there is no more flash its all over and it ended in disappointment why do i get the feeling that higher up on the food chain they were mandated to end it this bad to make the cinematic flash with its nut job actor look good compaired to this.
"The goddess and her side kick too bad neither of you are powerful enough to LOCK UP THE DARKNESS." is the best quote Zoom has ever said.
IKR!!!! 😩
It's not.
This is just season 7 but with a higher budget all over again
Ironically, they actually got their budget slashed midway through the final season, so they actually had less money than before.
If they dont show up again then the speedster villains returning will be disappointing
Tbh for the last episode you better be right
@@Smoking-Green the episode is almost over so this will be a disappointing way to say goodbye to the evil speedsters
@Chad King for real even I who isnt a supposed PROFESSIONAL writer could have come up with many ways to make this so good
@Chad King i mean yeah why not ...instead we get we are team flash moment AGAIN..
Did Zoom forgot he can phase through walls or being able to move faster then a normal person pulling a trigger with their normal speed.
He also forgot he can throw back lightning
Normal person? He was fighting a goddess dude.
@@mysticvaulttv goddess? what are you smoking bad weed? lol so she is a speedster to? because even the god in comis can react to a speedster lol.
@@mysticvaulttv shes a goddess of ice and shes in the body of a human so shes still vulnerable
@@blacky8987 shes a goddess of ice
Zoom with red lightning ?! Awesome ! But I don't like the fact that new caitlin can stop zoom's powers.
Edit : this bullshit caitlin is a "godess", I missed that part but she's to OP against Zoom. Main villains were beaten in few seconds. TRASH FINALE ! Godspeed should have kill the clown Cecile, Thawne should have kill that trash chester and his girlfriend, same thing to savitar and zoom.
Zoom having Red lightning's awful, should've kept the Blue lightning
@@Clockwork_Shadow Wouldn't that mean Zoom is dying?
this was more like a star wars episode wtf
She is literally a goddess and zoom wasn't stopped until Jay neutralized Eddie
@@mateoslab Just a fact about Cobalt blue, he has a freaking sword in the comics.
As hype as it is to see Zoom back, who tf thought Khione one-shotting him was a good idea man
I thought it was well deserved after that horribly forced cringe meme worthy like delivery of “cant look up the darkness” what happened to Teddy’s acting ability 🤦
@@JinxMadness its writters doing this shit not Teddy acting skills they fucked up everything
@@JinxMadness script goes a long way not actors fault
@@JinxMadness Teddy Sears acting is good as hell, the problem is the dumb writers
@@JinxMadness its just the dumb fucking writers who made him do that
This is the equivalent of Deathstoke returning for the final episode of Arrow, and getting his ass beat by Wild Dog.
0:36 "To lock the darkness!!!" Did he have a stroke before finishing his line?
He said to lock up the darkness
no that was just tony todd kicking in
HE SAID IT!
the "TO LOCK UP THE DARKNESS" was so aggresive i love it
FACTS 😍
Why is Barry fighting Eddie and not his evil counterpart Reverse Flash? Did they really look at this episode go through with it? I have so many questions. I could direct the show better than this.
Barry has fought reverse flash almost every season. Fans have been begging for cobalt blue for years
@@kingkong9892yeah but cmon RF is the Ultimate big bad no matter what anyone says the story should end with flash killing RF not pep talking his ancestor🤦♂️
@@kingkong9892 and yet the villains were still 1000000x nerfed than they were before and got defeated by Cecil and Nora in less than 3 seconds
@@kingkong9892 we all would rather see barry fight reverse flash than colbat blue
Barry was trying to save Eddie because if he kept taking speed from the speed force he will over load and kill himself as well and Sense Barry is the fastest one out of all he should be the one to go after him
1:35 its funny how khione reacted lightning but a actual Speedster couldn't react it
Yeah and zoom didnt even get to dodge and return back it to khione
Who is Khione ?
@@Cipher_Paul new version of Caitlin
I mean shes a Goddess which is reasonable.
@@arzqh still bullshit how her and all the side cast got insane buffs out of no where
I must say the actions pretty good and at least they gave zoom one of the bigger defeats but this is a pretty underwhelming finale but at least it isn’t terrible, just anticlimactic.
After a couple days I would say the zoom defeat isn’t terrible but the entire battle could be considered so, the ladder half where the goodbye’s take place are the best part by far
no .. this was TERRIBLE
@@Proliongaming nah
@@bl5533 nah? You've never seen anything good. This was AWFUL.
@@KingZedusPrime2009TyrentKaiju Amazing finale to a great show.
@@bl5533
This has to be bait.
1:18 yeah lets play what really happed
Frosty girl tries to hold up hand and dies before she can even finish the thought.
I love how as soon as that Jitter employee heard the lighting, he was like "Oh shit! Everyone, get down!"
Dude has been through too much and just knows when shit's about to hit the fan on his day at work.
Zoom could’ve atleast killed mark 🤦🏽♂️made them look so easy and bs
shit was horrific
Bro khione absorbed the attack that was supposed to hit mark
@@Starfirelordnsavor yeah and sent it back as if Zoom isn't fast enough to evade the attack and proceed to blitz every CCPD officer and mark 💀
@@Exxezze Fr, back in season 2 Zoom was literally fast enough to catch lightning from a speedster, but this show expects us to believe that a normal speed person throwing lightning at him is too fast for him
@@Exxezze khione is a whole goddess dude I doubt he would’ve been able to do that
2:05 Your Earth 90 doppelgänger who happens to be Barry Allen...
...do you not know what doppelganger means?
@@Paradoxman92 became earth 90 lookalike for Jay is literally Barry Allen not Jay garrick and
*because
@@Paradoxman92 You're right, was a little hyped up in the moment to think coherently.
@@suryasingh9738 You didn’t use complete sentences.
Teddy's performance in season 2 was subtle and menacing. Why did they have him turn the camp up
Ikr, it’s almost like they completely forgot what the character was known for, especially with that WWEesc entrance at the beginning of the finale.
I have no idea.
we can thank the shitty director and writers for that
He was still egotistical at times because he knew he could kill any of them at any second. Obviously that carried over to this episode and he wasn't experienced with Khione who was a literally Goddess.
@@iwasneverherenorthere that means nothing, he just stupidly stood there and went down to his own attack instead of, I don’t know moving out of the fucking way. For fucks sake he didn’t even use any time remnants, something he has consistently shown the willingness to abuse.
Funny how Savitar who was a final boss just became like an entry level mob that you could knock over.
It was awesome to see all the old speedster villains again, but I would have liked the fight to have lasted a bit longer.
“You cant lock up the darkness” best line ive heard from Zoom
When Zoom said "IT'S ZOOMIN' TIME", it was truly the moment of all time.
Old and unfunny joke.
@@cobrakaineverdies-i2k Did I ask?
@@thegreatmaester is someone mad they can't make an original funny joke :)
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@Eobard Thawne no one asked for overused jokes either, but here we are.
I love seeing Zoom again but my guy, MARK WAS RIGHT THERE! 😂
Nobody cares about him
@@anoobguy8350True, I think it was just weird he didn't go for him instead.
How did they butcher the finale this bad? God i hate fiona or whatever her name is how did she one shot zoom? nobody cares about any of flash's team other than him
I thought this would be way more intense than it was anticipated, but this is how you properly shit on every villain in a single episode
0:42-0:44 they reused the lightning chase from The flash vs Rival from season 3 LMAO. Back when they still hand drew the lightning and not make it look like lasagna. They're literally mocking us.
When zoom says the line "lock up the darkness" it feels badass it feels like a threat and that maybe he is so danger as he used to be but then he just gets hit with a lightning.. a thing we saw him dodge once..
yes he also caught that lightning bolt and threw it back
I’m pissed they ruined Zoom 😢
Fr also his mask looks different
Fr bruh
Complete disappointment
We can just say this isn't Zoom. This isn't Godspeed. This isn't Savitar. The real ones died and stayed dead. Whatever these dudes were, just Eddie's Walmart versions.
@DarthPyrusTheVirus this is now my head Canon.
Zoom was genuinely the most scary and fluid one of the villain speedsters shown in the finale props to the actor. Underwhelming battle although with khione
They used classic villains and Godspeed just for 13 MINUTES
2:02 -2:06. Nice to see (and hear) that the 90's flash is still mentioned in the arrowverse
Loved Jay referring to Earth-90 Barry.
And his timing is impeccable.
Jitters is like the Spanish announce table of the Arrowverse.
I don't understand why the villains lost so easily. 😢😢
I honestly expected the previous villains to put up a better fight
For the last episode i am extremely disappointed
Same smh
Sounds like a metal breakdown😂😂 0:36
Poor Jitters man 😭😭 That coffee shop been through it😭😭😭😭😭😭
no one can resist jitters 😂😂😂 it’s the place for dates, presentations, games, debates, arguments, fights, anything. think of anything in life and jitters will make it possible to happen inside it
He knew it was coming too, he's like "I been in this city long enough, I know what that fucking sound means."
Season 9 did ZOOM dirty. He went from being the "fastest man alive" at one point to be a "velocity 9 junkie" 😂
No way the villains have so little screentime
cecile show/we are the flash
I love how the coffee waiter know what time it was.
Season final villains reduced to D list villain status, so team flash could seem useful.
we are the flash show smh..writer sucked ass
0:19. Isn't Kramer supposed to have her mimicing powers activated by now? That woman in the left. If Zoom were to use his powers in front of Kramer, shouldn't that automatically make Kramer trigger her powers to mimic Zoom's powers?
What kind of powers does that barosta have to know two speedsters where gonna smash through the window.
He's secretly the most powerful person in DC
If you look at the Eddie vs Barry fight from 0:42-0:44 , you'll see that they just reused the clips of Flash vs Reverse flash and Flash vs Rival from s1 and s3
they Always did this, reusing footage
Wait, wait, wait. Did the barista yell, "Everybody down!" BEFORE they crashed through the windows? Is this guy a psychic or a secret speedster?
These fights should’ve been wayyy longer imo..
0:32 Chills 🔥🔥🔥.
She learned the lightning absorb technique from Master Yoda
0:31 to LOCK UP THE DARKNESS 😈
Love when JWS makes an appearance, AND he even drops the nod to the original show with the speed stealing comment AND the cherry on top is the classic theme playing in the background!
No no no .. did I just see a saber again … no no no no. And zoom can’t catch his own lightning but could catch Barry’s lightning from season 2?
I’m actually astounded that they managed to fuck this up. You’re telling me Zoom, the guy who taught Barry to throw lighting and subsequently dodged said lighting only to throw it back at Barry, is totally unable to do the same thing with fucking Snow or whatever the fuck her name is now?
Zoom getting taken down with plot armour when he handed Barry's ass to him throughout s2 and only lost because Barry made a time remnant.
Nice to see Zoom square up against Khione though would of been better if it was Frost or Caitlyn herself
I agree especially as zoom used to have a thing for Caitlin
It was already proven that Zoom is stronger then Frost. Go back to season 2. Earth 2 Frost did hit Zoom and did say go. Earth 2 Frost also said she cannot hold him any longer and told the rest to leave. Long story short, when Earth 2 Frost was about to kill her doppelganger, Zoom came and killed Earth 2 Frost. It proves that Zoom can beat Frost but cannot beat Khione. The footage already tells the story. If you wanted to see zoom fighting against Frost, you just need to go back to season 2.
Feel so bad for Jitter's Owner 😂😂
i wish this reunion last longer than just 1 episode
This Zoom acts more like the Rival from S3 than THE actual Hunter Zolomon from S2. What a fucking shame, we’ll always remember the true Zoom, this episode doesn’t count
Also wtf was that goofy ass flip before he shot the lightning 😭😭
This Zoom definitely felt off. Guess it's been too long. Savitar is the one speedster that wouldn't go down easily for whatever reason.
I’m glad zoom said “more of ccpd’s finest for me to slaughter you shouldn’t have” and “you can’t lock up the darkness” like cool callback but zoom was my favorite but the more baldy mask and red lightning SUCKED and they never interacted with Barry.
2:00 so jay confirm that flash from earth 90 is alive?
No, he didn’t. He just heard about what earth 90 flash did and learned it
0:34 "l understood the reference 😁🤗
I wish zoom had more time to fight Barry. Not khione and cops 💀 but oh well at least the hype was real
Zoom saying his line and switching from his Hunter voice to his Zoom voice feels so artificial, not as threatening and monstrous as it did in Season 2. God forbid that horrible CGI when he tossed the lightning, bro looked like he genuinely had no idea what was going on 😢
I like how snow become so powerful that not only able where zoom go to strike but absorb his lighting and reflect back at him 1:06
her name is khione
@@chris_bev_9802 thank you
I love how she's able to do that as if Zoom couldn't just evade it, and speed blitz all of CCPD and Mark😐💀
@@nathanramos4563 her powers make no sens and zoom could of killed her and caught the lightning zoom was alive way longer than kione she was born in season 9 so should not exist atall to begin with
@@minecraftanimations7073 maybe she had unlimited power to do things that frost killer can.
This should have been a multi-episode finale, because they just had to rush defeating everybody
This finale should have been divided into parts
it was 4 part finale but they decided to have barry for total of 20 mins on ep 2 and 3🤣
Yeah that’s the funny thing, THIS WAS A MULTI-EPISODE FINALE. FUCKING FOUR EVEN!
@@jasonnguyen2575 no I mean this episode were all all flash's speedster rogues gallery should have had more than one episode
Well it should have been stretched out
zoom and savitar should get a huge upgrade on speed he should be as fast as post season 8 flash(imo)
It’s not the real villains it’s a weird revived versions, only Thawne is really connected to negative speed force
Even though zoom was defeated easily but I’m still glad that he came back one last time and brought back his quote. 0:35
1:27 what if something about that darkness get into khione😥😥😥😥😥😥
they did our villains dirty and just when I thought the show was getting interesting again.
There is no way that there isn’t a last fight. It’s too late to bring Thawne back as the last villain even though he should be. Barry should fox the timeline at the end of the episode ending with throwing the lightning bolt at himself
Guess I’m wrong
@@Prebuilt_Room901 yep you were
Thawn tried to kill Chester but to no avail the plot armor is 10000000x stronger than ever before it’s fucking pathetic
@@MaximumPrime I personally like the episode. To me it was cool how Chester used his powers to survive
I’m taking this as a 75% win. If you count the last Eddie scene as a fight then I got that right and Barry didn’t strike himself with lightning.
I thought the lady in all black was laurel for a second lol.