Hey guys apologies I used the wrong clip on the last Game FH5. That was the boosted tdp clip not the 25w. This was a lot of work over multiple days and that one got away from me. However I do have the full 25w clip and the results were the same. 3 Benchmark runs at 25w no boosting got me 79fps once and 80fps twice with temps back down to 73-74c. SO basically same results but I don't like when something like that gets past me. Thanks for coming to watch.
I have the Go, and nothing prepared me for how big and beautiful its screen really is. It elevates my gaming experience every time I grab it, no joke. it's an absolute pleasure to game on. Small text is fully legible, everything looks sharp and vivid, it's really the best handheld I ever had, and I had quite a bit of 'em since the early GPD Win 1 era. The only real thing the Ally X has going for it is its amazing battery life, and I have a battery holder + battery pack for that purpose on the Go.
@@liamseekins9488 I won't argue further than that, but I have a GPD Win Mini with VRR, and I think that's such an overrated feature. It makes zero real world difference to me unless I'm bent on comparing it screen to screen, and even then once I'm gaming it's not noticeable at all. There wasn't once where I felt like I'm missing out on VRR during my Go sessions. If the FPS heavily fluctuates it's not enjoyable with or without VRR.
From watching this video is exactly what I've been saying in my video.. I knew the Rog Ally X wasn't going to preform all that much better than the Legion Go.. I knew it. The fact both had the same type of Ram speed on LPDDR5X 7500. The Rog Ally X only has 8GB more ram. Thats the only difference. Great compersion.
80whr battery???? That's a huge difference between the 2. The 24-gb ram makes a huge difference, too. Less stutter and more smooth gameplay. But trust me, you can't see until you try it. I'm not trying to bash your comment tho just talking from experience with both devices.
You are correct. It “ feels “ different to play. There are plenty of games especially down the toad where the additional ram is gonna help. But yea actually performance will be similar. Not to mention how very very different the two devices are. Love them both but for totally different reasons
When we are talking actual performance “ for now in most games “ its similar. Hard to tell as games come out that want more system ram how that will play out. Will be doing alot more videos over time. But besides the performance theres so much difference between holding and using the two decices. The larger screen is the main thing i love on the Go but being I am a handheld gamer it does get bulky and uncomfortable sometimes even for me. The Ally X is soooo much more comfortable and all the buttons feel better and has waaay mpre battery life. So ots a tough choice for alot of people.
@@prestin5304 yea depends on the game and areas. When i go thru rly slow theres times the ally clock is higher and then others ots the Go. In general tho the Go does seem to be setup to push those higher more often. This would account for the 0-3 fps difference. Of course FPS is only a small part of the story or game experience. Alot of the higher system ram heavy games I keep trying now the Ally X stays smoother with the additional ram and maybe some other tweaks. But its very interesting to compare all these.
When its all been said and done, because the legion go is the only windows 11 handheld PC that can transform into an actual tablet (by removing the joysticks), I can definitely say the Legion Go is more of an iPad Pro Killer. I own a 12 inch iPad Pro (M1), but due to its size, i also bought an iPad Air (M1), however, since purchasing the legion go, I've never touched these devices because: 1. When I am at home and needs a huge screen, I have a dock to connect the Legion go to a monitor, mouse and keyboard 2. When I am on the move, I bring the Legion Go (without the joystick) and I have a Microsoft folding keyboard and Microsoft arc mouse, which is very compact. As for the battery life, putting the Legion go on power saving mode, I have an all day battery life (between 5 - 7 hours), which is comparable to my iPad. But what I really like about the Legion Go compared to an iPad, is that you don't have to think of any workarounds, and you don't have to worry about file management because you have a full Windows Desktop with you, as compared to the iPad OS. Honestly I had high hopes that Apple would turn the iPad Pro to a convertible Mac, but for 3 years of waiting, I doubt that it would ever happen. I'm already considering selling both my iPads at this point, because Legion Go is such a better option in many ways, but the real secret is Windows 11 (though many gamers hate Legion Go because of Windows).
Yo bro if u want more battery life without sacrificing too much performance u should get a power bank I got myself a 30000mah powerbank with 65w charge and I have more than double the battery life
Yeah I had the M1 12.9 inch pro too and for awhile I was using it with an Anker USB C dongle with a 512gb micro SD for expanded storage and after some update last year it no longer reads the dongle. Apple is garbage, and they want to force people to dump hundreds and breadcrumb memory options. Probably won't use their devices anymore. I only liked procreate for tattooing, but I'm not dumping serious money into devices that I have zero control or say over.
Apple will never allow you to run Mac OS on an iPad. Doing so would enable users to download programs outside of their app store. Apple makes most of its money from purchases of software and subscriptions from their store, from which they take a large cut.
on my old ally Z1 ext. I leave the settings for every games to 900p + RIS + 120Hz the ally X is my actual dream but I keep my money for an ALLY 2 with, I hope, a powerfull Z2 extreme ! but keeping everything else from the ALLY X !
@@foxcloud same here. I love the legion go so much that Ive not used my iPad since o got the Legion Go. It is truly an iPad killer because of the full windows desktop built in without the need for amy work around. It just works.
I confirm the test. I own Go, Ally X and Ally Z1E. At same configuration and resolution, Go is faster than Ally X for a few frames. And Ally X is faster than Ally for a few frames.
The sweet spot is supposedly 12 gb for the X. Why are none of you guys doing this in tests? Im thinking about getting the ally x but would like to see the performance difference but everyone is doing the same tests at similar settings. I want to see these devices at their best to really test them. Not some optimal setting to maximize battery on every video
Ive tested all the options. Not sure why anyone would need 12GB of vram. I havent tested a game yet that uses more than 7.2GB and that 1080p. My desktop 4060ti is 8GB vram 1440p gaming and fine. So im not sure who is comin up with needing more than 8GB of VRAM on these devices and also rly shorting the system ram again. Makes no real sense unless theres a specific game that rly needs it for some reason
Gotta say, I got the legion go and the ally. I returned the ally. If asus came out with the x first then I would have probably had a harder time choosing the go.
@@GB-ow1jh i agree. The OG Ally never clicked with me and I preferred my Go once it launched. The Ally X is a different beast tho and now its tough cause I love them both. The older I get tho the more I appreciate the bigger screen 👀🤣
Bought both aswell and doing a face off to see which one I return. First impressions the Ally is comfier but the Go is just more bang for buck in everyway
This video doesnt make any sense. I do have rog ally x, and legion go, and with 24gb ram which is 8gb more then legion go and with vrr does make a lot of difference. I am not sure if u tried this properly, but i can see something just not right in here....
Definitely everything is tested and compared properly. Been doing it a long time. Had a small clip mistake in one point but all the testing is confirmed multiple times 👍. Feel free to comment some of your results or link some vids or posts to check out. Im looking forward to alot more test and compares here with all the new games coming out.
A little more ram isnt going to make a huge difference, and you cant “feel” vrr in a video. Its not that game changing and ill still win in a 1v1 without vrr 😂😜
Definitely not as bice on tue bezels as my Deck oled or legion Go. But on the black X device its not as annoying for me as the white og ally. Looking forward to gen 2 of the Ally whenever that comes.
What a lot of people fail to mention is RMA with ASUS is hell. If anything goes wrong with your device in the future then goodluck. Asus' quality assurance has also gone down in recent years with motherboard problems and displays having dead pixels out of the box.
I have this issue with basically every single company out there. Ive had tma stuff go great or go very badly with many different companies. I never trust ANY of them. Im for the consumers. I did have to rma my Ally from launch last year for the sd card and that RMA went perfectly luckily. But you never know. Its a shot in the dark.
This statement isn’t true at all. They’ve had some issues with one of their contractors handling the rma service, but overall have done pretty well with their customer service. Best Buy has helped a lot with returns and exchanges and has made things super easy for customers that purchased from there. Steam deck also had rma issues with one of their contractors as well. Unfortunately it happens with a lot of companies but people like valve so the steam deck problems were largely overlooked or ignored
In recent years???? LOL no they have always had terrible warranty service in the USA. I used to use them exclusively for building desktops until I got sick of them making excuses not to RMA shit that was bad, I bought a brand new Asus mobo in 2006 and the fuckin thing was dead on arrival and they wouldnt even look at it to replace it. So much for warranty and service. Ever since then I have hated Asus, countless things they never fixed back in the day and they still fail for everyone. Only reason the ally x intrigues me is vrr and 2 USB C ports with 1 being TB4. TB4 makes it a desktop replacement because tis very easy to run a desktop card external at home for it with TB4.
Wouldnt recommend it. You will have 3-5GB of system ram left once booted up. For many games this is gonna cause a performance issue. So far in my testing even at 1080p I have not had my Ally X use more than 7.7GB of Vram. Anything under 1080p which is alot of games and its usually 6GB or less Vram used / needed
@@GameTechPlanet Thank you for your reply 🙂 I was also just wondering about it as most new games have under the recommended to use system requirements it says 16GB memory
Ill be interested to test alot of new games coming out and doing some more comparisons to see how it goes. This video was just a small sample of a larger story I am sure.
@@Jason_P I will be honest I have run 8GB test. Very bad idea on 16GB shared devices. No games ive tested have meeded mpre than 5.5GB vram anyway. And when you allocate 8GB vram your left with about 4GB system ram after boot up for games to run. Not good. If you watch the AC mirage part of the vid u see how even 6GB over 4GB drops performance because that game need more system ram than vram. Id never allocate more than 6GB on a 16 shard system. Thats one great thing about the 24GB shared i love. Set 8GB vram and leaves 16GB system ram. Its a set and forget.
@@GameTechPlanet That makes sense. I am honestly surprised that Lenovo skimped on RAM for the Go, but it is what it is. I am sure the next version will have at least 24 if not 32GBs of RAM. Regardless, the 6GB setting has worked well for me so far. Windows itself doesn't need a TON of RAM if you clean it out and don't have a lot of crap running in the background.
How does the Ally X feel in the hands compared to the original? Because the original just felt cheap and small. I really hope a legion Go 1.5 comes out soon. It felt much better in the hands. And that screen is juicy!
The Go screen is great no doubt. If you wanna see a decent comparison of the OG Ally and the X check out this last video I did. th-cam.com/video/FdUzYpwncF4/w-d-xo.html
The thermals on the Ally X are great and its quiet. The Go ised to he better but they messed it up some with bios updates. They did fix it abit last time. But I have to tun the Go pretty high on the fans to get the temps where i had them.
@@MinadoCoelho thats a good point. But no. Yes the Ally vrr is great and you can definitely tell the difference. With so many years of pc testing i am used to how frametimes feel with and without vrr, and handhelds docked vs handheld. So when I say feel I am referring to what you can also actually see in the frametime line as well. Typically especially in high ram use games the Ally X is “ smoother “ less framerate drops pr stutters vs the 16GB models i have. Its small now but I feel like some games or newer games coming will want more ram and the Ally X will help. How much is yet to be seen.
The ROG Ally honestly just needs to get rid of those ugly black bezels and throw in an OLED panel and I will go ahead and drop $800 on it no questions asked.
First off, I bought the ally x about two weeks ago and compared it to my legion go, and aya neo kun, the legion go performs far better than the ally x. Lol, maybe at lower tdp you can get higher fps on the rog ally, but at 25 to 30 watts, the legion go is dominant badly. No games feel smother on the rog ally x. Lol, maybe at lower tdp you can get higher fps on the rog ally, but at 25 to 30 watts, the legion go is dominant badly. No games feel smother on the rog ally x most of the time, the legion go gets higher fps, making the game smother, while on the rog all x you get dips. If anyone wants to buy a handheld PC, the legion go is the go to bigger screen, dips. If anyone wants to buy a handheld PC, the legion go is the go to bigger screen, higher fps removal controllers.
I dont agree with the take but i respect the comment lol. Been messing with more games after the video stuff to and while at times its the same there are games that demand much more ram where i dont have as much frame drops due to the lack of available ram. Its not a big issue right now but i do believe these shared 16GB devices will start to fall more short as new games are landing. Will see. Two things about the smoother. On the device screen itself the Ally’s vrr is a smoother experience vs the non vrr displays of the steam deck, legion go. But i wasnt rly talking about that in the video. Im talking frametimes. FPS being higher is 💯 not what makes a game “ smoother “ to play. Its frametimes that do that in a big way. And in some games the Ally X is getting much more stable frametimes resulting in smoother play. I love both the Ally X and The Legion Go. Before the Ally X the Go was my top recommendation for people that were ok with the size and weight. Id never blindly tell everyone to buy one device as that doesn’t work. People have different taste and needs when it comes to these products. The Legion Go is not for everyone and neither is the Ally X or Deck or Claw. Theres a lot of questions to ask someone when making such a recommendation.
The legion go isn't going to perform better than the Ally X + the ally X with its extra 8gb of ram gives the gpu 8gb of vram to work with while the legion go will have to take a bite of the systems 16gb of ram which will be problematic in the future
@acwbit2368 yea i stated the same that while mature drivers and bios may give the Go 1-3 fps here and there ( not always ) the future games coming want more and more ram available. The X should be much more “ future proof “ of that exist lol. But will help. Im looking into alot more testing pf the additional ram. As it stands right now tho. Still love and recommend them both depending on preferences
@acwbit2368 Don't talk If you don't own any, I've compared both. The legion go is miles better than the rog ally x, and the aya neo kun has 64 GB of RAM, and yet the legion go eats it alive. You think 24 GB will help. The rog ally x is on par with the Aya Neo Air.
@@venancioder9288 ram makes it future proof you Don't understand anything about Apus sure it looks like it will perform better but it will struggle down the line due to the legion go using 4gb or more of its 16gb of ram as vram for the gpu while the ally X has an additional 8gb of ram to use as vram certain games really require that 16gb of ram and eating into it doesn't help
Both devices can boost over 25w temporarily then settle back to 25. Its not the reason for temp difference. All benchmarks and gameplay were started after each device stopped boosting and settled to 25w. However sometimes thet each will still decide to boost for a second. I was pretty picky about only carimg about 25w. Ill see where the boost was and for how long and if its one i missed. But overall no its was not a factor the way i did this video.
Dare I say the ROGs extra RAM is almost scammy, im not saying its useless as an upgrade but 200$ higher than the GOs price useful??? Im glad I went with Steam Deck and Legion Go that I just got 2 days ago to joing my Steam Deck and OMG!! The Legion Gos Quility is 2nd to non, and I still play my Steam Deck before sleep in bed, but the Go is a desktop replacement vs Decks console experience , I lovem both, The Allys never seem to stand out to me, I rather use my laptop vs get another portable windows PC, But The Go is special
Cheaper, more versatile, and works as a tablet too. Takes less than a minute to open it up for dust cleaning. My only complain is the extremely slow SD card read/write speed.
I want to play games like ghost recon,gta v,watch dogs 2 and saints row 4 so would the legion go be good for these? Cause i want a device that has great fps and graphics but i dont want any lag
I have a GO and I would say none of those games will run well unless your playing at the lowest setting and at 800p and it will probably only last for an hour
Is the rog ally x actually worth to buy, if its like 300 Dollars more in retail? I'm from Switzerland and the Legion Go costs around 600 Dollars and the Rog Ally X is 880 Dollars. I don't think that the Rog Ally is a contender at all, since it doesn't give you much of a performance boost, compared to the legion go. Additionally, you can remove the Controllers on the Legion go and even use the controllers as a vertical mouse. So is there really any reason to go for the Rog Ally??
They are two very very different devices. Cost is a big aprt cause globally it is so different. For me its only a 50.00usd difference between them. As far as the devices people have their preferences. The Go is much bigger and heavier which will turn some people away. The Ally X is much more comfortable to hold and use and the battery last about twice as long as the Go. Almost. Theres tons of other differences as well. Its really personal preference of the type of device and features you want. While they offer similar performance. The experience of using the two is drastically different.
Lol i was responding when you changed the comment. Funnier the first time brother 🤣. I used an Ally with a 90Wh mod and plate before. Pretty crazy. Interested to see what jsaux puts out next
@@GameTechPlanetahhh the lenovo legion what never heard of it bit bro? 😂😂 I changed it as I didn't want legion fanboys threatening to do high tier vandalism to my house if I said the ally was better than the legion 😂
@@GameTechPlanet and that sounds crazy bro was that the mod where you had to cut the backplate open and had the battery out the back and was held in by screws ? That looks cool AF but I have intelligence for how to be an idiot and be proud of not being able to carry out basic tasks but can make some people laugh with stupid comments 😂and that's about it I can't even iron clothes without creases brother im 30 man 😂
The Lenovo LG and the ASUS RA-X are both priced at £700 here in the UK ! I love the big screen of the LG ! Which one should i get to use at home (not outdoor) for RPG games like GOW, RDR 2, The Witcher 3 and Horizon. Should i sacrifice LG's screen for RA-X's battery, smaller screen and performance !?!?
I prefer the lenovo legion go for play indoors. For outdoor rog ally x. Just for the battery . The ROG Ally X only makes a big difference in battery life, but if you play at home, you don't need the battery. Also, just keep in mind that I played Wukong on the Lenovo for 2 hours and 10 minutes with the battery on the Lenovo Legion Go. On the ROG Ally, it was 3 hours. So the difference is 50 more minutes.
The rog ally is the only handheld I don’t want tbh, yea it has VRR, but that screen is so damn small with bezels, are you serious? When the screen fills the entire device it looks 100000 better. Just like on a desktop, the display is truly everything.
@@kieranhowe1346 tough choice. Theres a lot i love about both devices. But ask yourself about things such as battery life, screen size and features, weight and size of the device and so on. I plan on doing another video soon that isnt so game focused and more an overall comparison.
I am loving the Ally X and I think the additional ram will really come into play as newer heavier games come out. But honestly I love all my handhelds lol
No “ bias “ here other than the normal “ preference “ we feel towards certain things which forms our opinions. I live these devices and many orhers. The legion go and ally x are my favorite Windows handhelds. While I continue to prefer the screen on the Legion Go and the kickstand ( im not someone who ever removes the controllers ) the Ally X is my daily driver that I enjoy. For now. Lots of new stuff on the way. Ill always try to give u guys fact and opinion so you can make your own buying choices. And while I will always try to keep bias out. Its just human to have some bias and preferences no matter what. So i try to be clear in the videos. Appreciate the comment.
Even though the frame rates seem similar, almost every game runs smoother on the ally than legion go, not to mention the temperature on legion go is just crazy like 80 degrees Celsius on the racing game wtf lol.
Other than the speakers, the Legion Go is a better device, I've owned both, the VRR on the Ally is a non issue, stuff still runs better and SMOOTHER on the Legion.
Hey guys apologies I used the wrong clip on the last Game FH5. That was the boosted tdp clip not the 25w. This was a lot of work over multiple days and that one got away from me. However I do have the full 25w clip and the results were the same. 3 Benchmark runs at 25w no boosting got me 79fps once and 80fps twice with temps back down to 73-74c. SO basically same results but I don't like when something like that gets past me. Thanks for coming to watch.
I have the Go, and nothing prepared me for how big and beautiful its screen really is. It elevates my gaming experience every time I grab it, no joke. it's an absolute pleasure to game on. Small text is fully legible, everything looks sharp and vivid, it's really the best handheld I ever had, and I had quite a bit of 'em since the early GPD Win 1 era.
The only real thing the Ally X has going for it is its amazing battery life, and I have a battery holder + battery pack for that purpose on the Go.
No it also has vrr which is a main deal breaker of people not getting the legion go it's the reason I won't get one until they add it
@@liamseekins9488 I won't argue further than that, but I have a GPD Win Mini with VRR, and I think that's such an overrated feature. It makes zero real world difference to me unless I'm bent on comparing it screen to screen, and even then once I'm gaming it's not noticeable at all. There wasn't once where I felt like I'm missing out on VRR during my Go sessions. If the FPS heavily fluctuates it's not enjoyable with or without VRR.
I’ve got both and the Ally x feels and sounds better, the Go looks better.
From watching this video is exactly what I've been saying in my video.. I knew the Rog Ally X wasn't going to preform all that much better than the Legion Go.. I knew it. The fact both had the same type of Ram speed on LPDDR5X 7500. The Rog Ally X only has 8GB more ram. Thats the only difference. Great compersion.
80whr battery???? That's a huge difference between the 2. The 24-gb ram makes a huge difference, too. Less stutter and more smooth gameplay. But trust me, you can't see until you try it. I'm not trying to bash your comment tho just talking from experience with both devices.
You are correct. It “ feels “ different to play. There are plenty of games especially down the toad where the additional ram is gonna help. But yea actually performance will be similar. Not to mention how very very different the two devices are. Love them both but for totally different reasons
When we are talking actual performance “ for now in most games “ its similar. Hard to tell as games come out that want more system ram how that will play out. Will be doing alot more videos over time. But besides the performance theres so much difference between holding and using the two decices. The larger screen is the main thing i love on the Go but being I am a handheld gamer it does get bulky and uncomfortable sometimes even for me. The Ally X is soooo much more comfortable and all the buttons feel better and has waaay mpre battery life. So ots a tough choice for alot of people.
@@Drzestrella19 I had the Rog Ally. There's not much of a difference.
@ChariotManGaming85 not the biggest one for sure but the extra battery and less stutter while gaming is a huge plus for Me.
c.clock on X was lower than the Go most of the time...and its temps were way lower too.
@@prestin5304 yea depends on the game and areas. When i go thru rly slow theres times the ally clock is higher and then others ots the Go. In general tho the Go does seem to be setup to push those higher more often. This would account for the 0-3 fps difference. Of course FPS is only a small part of the story or game experience. Alot of the higher system ram heavy games I keep trying now the Ally X stays smoother with the additional ram and maybe some other tweaks. But its very interesting to compare all these.
When its all been said and done, because the legion go is the only windows 11 handheld PC that can transform into an actual tablet (by removing the joysticks), I can definitely say the Legion Go is more of an iPad Pro Killer. I own a 12 inch iPad Pro (M1), but due to its size, i also bought an iPad Air (M1), however, since purchasing the legion go, I've never touched these devices because: 1. When I am at home and needs a huge screen, I have a dock to connect the Legion go to a monitor, mouse and keyboard 2. When I am on the move, I bring the Legion Go (without the joystick) and I have a Microsoft folding keyboard and Microsoft arc mouse, which is very compact. As for the battery life, putting the Legion go on power saving mode, I have an all day battery life (between 5 - 7 hours), which is comparable to my iPad. But what I really like about the Legion Go compared to an iPad, is that you don't have to think of any workarounds, and you don't have to worry about file management because you have a full Windows Desktop with you, as compared to the iPad OS. Honestly I had high hopes that Apple would turn the iPad Pro to a convertible Mac, but for 3 years of waiting, I doubt that it would ever happen. I'm already considering selling both my iPads at this point, because Legion Go is such a better option in many ways, but the real secret is Windows 11 (though many gamers hate Legion Go because of Windows).
@@iPadChannel yeah man that's definitely one area where the legion beats the ally hands down it has the tablet mode the ally does not. Legion wins
Yo bro if u want more battery life without sacrificing too much performance u should get a power bank I got myself a 30000mah powerbank with 65w charge and I have more than double the battery life
@@Y15_5 i do have one, 65Watts with 20,000mAh, which adds an additional 2 hours more
Yeah I had the M1 12.9 inch pro too and for awhile I was using it with an Anker USB C dongle with a 512gb micro SD for expanded storage and after some update last year it no longer reads the dongle. Apple is garbage, and they want to force people to dump hundreds and breadcrumb memory options. Probably won't use their devices anymore. I only liked procreate for tattooing, but I'm not dumping serious money into devices that I have zero control or say over.
Apple will never allow you to run Mac OS on an iPad. Doing so would enable users to download programs outside of their app store. Apple makes most of its money from purchases of software and subscriptions from their store, from which they take a large cut.
on my old ally Z1 ext. I leave the settings for every games to 900p + RIS + 120Hz
the ally X is my actual dream but I keep my money for an ALLY 2 with, I hope, a powerfull Z2 extreme ! but keeping everything else from the ALLY X !
I love my Legion Go ... The removable controllers and the stand turn the LeGo into a Switch Pro 😁
I'll just wait for RDNA 4 ;)
@@foxcloud same here. I love the legion go so much that Ive not used my iPad since o got the Legion Go. It is truly an iPad killer because of the full windows desktop built in without the need for amy work around. It just works.
I confirm the test. I own Go, Ally X and Ally Z1E. At same configuration and resolution, Go is faster than Ally X for a few frames. And Ally X is faster than Ally for a few frames.
The sweet spot is supposedly 12 gb for the X. Why are none of you guys doing this in tests? Im thinking about getting the ally x but would like to see the performance difference but everyone is doing the same tests at similar settings. I want to see these devices at their best to really test them. Not some optimal setting to maximize battery on every video
Ive tested all the options. Not sure why anyone would need 12GB of vram. I havent tested a game yet that uses more than 7.2GB and that 1080p. My desktop 4060ti is 8GB vram 1440p gaming and fine. So im not sure who is comin up with needing more than 8GB of VRAM on these devices and also rly shorting the system ram again. Makes no real sense unless theres a specific game that rly needs it for some reason
Gotta say, I got the legion go and the ally. I returned the ally. If asus came out with the x first then I would have probably had a harder time choosing the go.
@@GB-ow1jh i agree. The OG Ally never clicked with me and I preferred my Go once it launched. The Ally X is a different beast tho and now its tough cause I love them both. The older I get tho the more I appreciate the bigger screen 👀🤣
For me Ally X > Legion Go
Go is just a better all rounder and that screen is lit
@@BroHazemanhave you had both? Km looking into getting one and I can’t decide which
Bought both aswell and doing a face off to see which one I return. First impressions the Ally is comfier but the Go is just more bang for buck in everyway
This video doesnt make any sense. I do have rog ally x, and legion go, and with 24gb ram which is 8gb more then legion go and with vrr does make a lot of difference. I am not sure if u tried this properly, but i can see something just not right in here....
Definitely everything is tested and compared properly. Been doing it a long time. Had a small clip mistake in one point but all the testing is confirmed multiple times 👍. Feel free to comment some of your results or link some vids or posts to check out. Im looking forward to alot more test and compares here with all the new games coming out.
A little more ram isnt going to make a huge difference, and you cant “feel” vrr in a video. Its not that game changing and ill still win in a 1v1 without vrr 😂😜
@@Virulent_16definitely a game changer. State of decay 2 is horrid without it
the bezzels of the ally x looks annoying. why cant they just make the bezzels thinner?
Definitely not as bice on tue bezels as my Deck oled or legion Go. But on the black X device its not as annoying for me as the white og ally. Looking forward to gen 2 of the Ally whenever that comes.
What a lot of people fail to mention is RMA with ASUS is hell. If anything goes wrong with your device in the future then goodluck. Asus' quality assurance has also gone down in recent years with motherboard problems and displays having dead pixels out of the box.
I have this issue with basically every single company out there. Ive had tma stuff go great or go very badly with many different companies. I never trust ANY of them. Im for the consumers. I did have to rma my Ally from launch last year for the sd card and that RMA went perfectly luckily. But you never know. Its a shot in the dark.
Yea id get that best buy warranty so they can swap you a new one.
This statement isn’t true at all. They’ve had some issues with one of their contractors handling the rma service, but overall have done pretty well with their customer service. Best Buy has helped a lot with returns and exchanges and has made things super easy for customers that purchased from there.
Steam deck also had rma issues with one of their contractors as well. Unfortunately it happens with a lot of companies but people like valve so the steam deck problems were largely overlooked or ignored
In recent years???? LOL no they have always had terrible warranty service in the USA. I used to use them exclusively for building desktops until I got sick of them making excuses not to RMA shit that was bad, I bought a brand new Asus mobo in 2006 and the fuckin thing was dead on arrival and they wouldnt even look at it to replace it. So much for warranty and service.
Ever since then I have hated Asus, countless things they never fixed back in the day and they still fail for everyone.
Only reason the ally x intrigues me is vrr and 2 USB C ports with 1 being TB4.
TB4 makes it a desktop replacement because tis very easy to run a desktop card external at home for it with TB4.
Has anyone used the fall 16GB Of Ram on the Ally X on games?
As 16GB is the highest the Armoury crate program goes to?
Wouldnt recommend it. You will have 3-5GB of system ram left once booted up. For many games this is gonna cause a performance issue. So far in my testing even at 1080p I have not had my Ally X use more than 7.7GB of Vram. Anything under 1080p which is alot of games and its usually 6GB or less Vram used / needed
@@GameTechPlanet
Thank you for your reply 🙂
I was also just wondering about it as most new games have under the recommended to use system requirements it says 16GB memory
I’ve been waiting for so long to know which one’s better than which one has more optimisation
Ill be interested to test alot of new games coming out and doing some more comparisons to see how it goes. This video was just a small sample of a larger story I am sure.
Legion Go can now be set in the BIOS to dedicate 8GB to VRAM. Might want to test this again to see if that helps at all.
@@Jason_P I will be honest I have run 8GB test. Very bad idea on 16GB shared devices. No games ive tested have meeded mpre than 5.5GB vram anyway. And when you allocate 8GB vram your left with about 4GB system ram after boot up for games to run. Not good. If you watch the AC mirage part of the vid u see how even 6GB over 4GB drops performance because that game need more system ram than vram. Id never allocate more than 6GB on a 16 shard system. Thats one great thing about the 24GB shared i love. Set 8GB vram and leaves 16GB system ram. Its a set and forget.
@@GameTechPlanet That makes sense. I am honestly surprised that Lenovo skimped on RAM for the Go, but it is what it is. I am sure the next version will have at least 24 if not 32GBs of RAM.
Regardless, the 6GB setting has worked well for me so far. Windows itself doesn't need a TON of RAM if you clean it out and don't have a lot of crap running in the background.
@@GameTechPlanet should i just keep 6GB VRAM for the best? help me
How does the Ally X feel in the hands compared to the original? Because the original just felt cheap and small. I really hope a legion Go 1.5 comes out soon. It felt much better in the hands. And that screen is juicy!
The Go screen is great no doubt. If you wanna see a decent comparison of the OG Ally and the X check out this last video I did.
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Rog ally x runs 5 to 10 degrees cooler than go. Very important for gaming on windows
The thermals on the Ally X are great and its quiet. The Go ised to he better but they messed it up some with bios updates. They did fix it abit last time. But I have to tun the Go pretty high on the fans to get the temps where i had them.
in the games with the same performance or where the legion go had 1 to 2 fps more, you said ally x feels smoother. Isn't that because of the vrr?
@@MinadoCoelho thats a good point. But no. Yes the Ally vrr is great and you can definitely tell the difference. With so many years of pc testing i am used to how frametimes feel with and without vrr, and handhelds docked vs handheld. So when I say feel I am referring to what you can also actually see in the frametime line as well. Typically especially in high ram use games the Ally X is “ smoother “ less framerate drops pr stutters vs the 16GB models i have. Its small now but I feel like some games or newer games coming will want more ram and the Ally X will help. How much is yet to be seen.
The legion was great but i hated how it was so uncomfortable
Can the rog ally x play all games and play steam games to?
Yes
The ROG Ally honestly just needs to get rid of those ugly black bezels and throw in an OLED panel and I will go ahead and drop $800 on it no questions asked.
First off, I bought the ally x about two weeks ago and compared it to my legion go, and aya neo kun, the legion go performs far better than the ally x. Lol, maybe at lower tdp you can get higher fps on the rog ally, but at 25 to 30 watts, the legion go is dominant badly. No games feel smother on the rog ally x. Lol, maybe at lower tdp you can get higher fps on the rog ally, but at 25 to 30 watts, the legion go is dominant badly. No games feel smother on the rog ally x most of the time, the legion go gets higher fps, making the game smother, while on the rog all x you get dips. If anyone wants to buy a handheld PC, the legion go is the go to bigger screen, dips. If anyone wants to buy a handheld PC, the legion go is the go to bigger screen, higher fps removal controllers.
I dont agree with the take but i respect the comment lol. Been messing with more games after the video stuff to and while at times its the same there are games that demand much more ram where i dont have as much frame drops due to the lack of available ram. Its not a big issue right now but i do believe these shared 16GB devices will start to fall more short as new games are landing. Will see. Two things about the smoother. On the device screen itself the Ally’s vrr is a smoother experience vs the non vrr displays of the steam deck, legion go. But i wasnt rly talking about that in the video. Im talking frametimes. FPS being higher is 💯 not what makes a game “ smoother “ to play. Its frametimes that do that in a big way. And in some games the Ally X is getting much more stable frametimes resulting in smoother play. I love both the Ally X and The Legion Go. Before the Ally X the Go was my top recommendation for people that were ok with the size and weight. Id never blindly tell everyone to buy one device as that doesn’t work. People have different taste and needs when it comes to these products. The Legion Go is not for everyone and neither is the Ally X or Deck or Claw. Theres a lot of questions to ask someone when making such a recommendation.
The legion go isn't going to perform better than the Ally X + the ally X with its extra 8gb of ram gives the gpu 8gb of vram to work with while the legion go will have to take a bite of the systems 16gb of ram which will be problematic in the future
@acwbit2368 yea i stated the same that while mature drivers and bios may give the Go 1-3 fps here and there ( not always ) the future games coming want more and more ram available. The X should be much more “ future proof “ of that exist lol. But will help. Im looking into alot more testing pf the additional ram. As it stands right now tho. Still love and recommend them both depending on preferences
@acwbit2368 Don't talk If you don't own any, I've compared both. The legion go is miles better than the rog ally x, and the aya neo kun has 64 GB of RAM, and yet the legion go eats it alive. You think 24 GB will help. The rog ally x is on par with the Aya Neo Air.
@@venancioder9288 ram makes it future proof you Don't understand anything about Apus sure it looks like it will perform better but it will struggle down the line due to the legion go using 4gb or more of its 16gb of ram as vram for the gpu while the ally X has an additional 8gb of ram to use as vram certain games really require that 16gb of ram and eating into it doesn't help
Saw the APU Wattage reached 32 Watt on the GO, is that intended or is this the real reason why teh fps is better?
Both devices can boost over 25w temporarily then settle back to 25. Its not the reason for temp difference. All benchmarks and gameplay were started after each device stopped boosting and settled to 25w. However sometimes thet each will still decide to boost for a second. I was pretty picky about only carimg about 25w. Ill see where the boost was and for how long and if its one i missed. But overall no its was not a factor the way i did this video.
Ally x has been stronger from what I’ve been seeing! That’s what I need 🔥 easy choice
I feel like the legion is just a bit too big versus the rog ally.
Dare I say the ROGs extra RAM is almost scammy, im not saying its useless as an upgrade but 200$ higher than the GOs price useful??? Im glad I went with Steam Deck and Legion Go that I just got 2 days ago to joing my Steam Deck and OMG!! The Legion Gos Quility is 2nd to non, and I still play my Steam Deck before sleep in bed, but the Go is a desktop replacement vs Decks console experience , I lovem both, The Allys never seem to stand out to me, I rather use my laptop vs get another portable windows PC, But The Go is special
Cheaper, more versatile, and works as a tablet too. Takes less than a minute to open it up for dust cleaning. My only complain is the extremely slow SD card read/write speed.
Also VRR is amazing on the Ally
Great news!!
I want to play games like ghost recon,gta v,watch dogs 2 and saints row 4 so would the legion go be good for these? Cause i want a device that has great fps and graphics but i dont want any lag
I have a GO and I would say none of those games will run well unless your playing at the lowest setting and at 800p and it will probably only last for an hour
@@J-Vill damn atp it doesn't even make sense buy it thanks alot man
legion go best for prais and have big screen ❤ and with all new update is amazing better then go come out
It all depends what you like it doesn't have vrr which is a deal breaker for many and it stutters more often that the ally from what I've read
Lenovo legion go the best handheld ❤
If I want to use it as a computer, which one is more suitable, allyx or go?
Ally X if docked, Legion Go undocked.
I am confused bcz my heart says to get go bcz of big display but mind says get x bcz of extra ram double battery and 2280 slot
The screen in the Gonis awesome. But it is a hard choice. Both devices have a lot to offer and are very different when using everyday
Same here… I really don’t know what to choose… 51% goes with X, 49% goes to Go especially for the big screen…
Isn’t a new Go close to possibly releasing? A 1.5 if you will..
That difference doesn't worth + 300€ in any case. I'll stay with my Go.
There is no perfect handheld by ROG Ally X is the closest
I would like the X with 8,8".
Go is 499.99 right now. Should I return my X I got for 699.99? From Best Buy
yes
Is the rog ally x actually worth to buy, if its like 300 Dollars more in retail? I'm from Switzerland and the Legion Go costs around 600 Dollars and the Rog Ally X is 880 Dollars. I don't think that the Rog Ally is a contender at all, since it doesn't give you much of a performance boost, compared to the legion go. Additionally, you can remove the Controllers on the Legion go and even use the controllers as a vertical mouse. So is there really any reason to go for the Rog Ally??
They are two very very different devices. Cost is a big aprt cause globally it is so different. For me its only a 50.00usd difference between them. As far as the devices people have their preferences. The Go is much bigger and heavier which will turn some people away. The Ally X is much more comfortable to hold and use and the battery last about twice as long as the Go. Almost. Theres tons of other differences as well. Its really personal preference of the type of device and features you want. While they offer similar performance. The experience of using the two is drastically different.
Me patiently waiting for jsaux to release there modded backplate and 80wh battery kit for original ally 😂
Lol i was responding when you changed the comment. Funnier the first time brother 🤣. I used an Ally with a 90Wh mod and plate before. Pretty crazy. Interested to see what jsaux puts out next
@@GameTechPlanetahhh the lenovo legion what never heard of it bit bro? 😂😂 I changed it as I didn't want legion fanboys threatening to do high tier vandalism to my house if I said the ally was better than the legion 😂
@@GameTechPlanet and that sounds crazy bro was that the mod where you had to cut the backplate open and had the battery out the back and was held in by screws ? That looks cool AF but I have intelligence for how to be an idiot and be proud of not being able to carry out basic tasks but can make some people laugh with stupid comments 😂and that's about it I can't even iron clothes without creases brother im 30 man 😂
@@GameTechPlanet yo they got rid of my response back to this bro the swinebags 😂😂😂😂
Ally X insanely expensive! The prize is closed to MSI Bravo 15 with rtx 4060 in my country! Add only $87 and you have rtx 4060 laptop!!!
The Lenovo LG and the ASUS RA-X are both priced at £700 here in the UK ! I love the big screen of the LG ! Which one should i get to use at home (not outdoor) for RPG games like GOW, RDR 2, The Witcher 3 and Horizon.
Should i sacrifice LG's screen for RA-X's battery, smaller screen and performance !?!?
I prefer the lenovo legion go for play indoors.
For outdoor rog ally x. Just for the battery .
The ROG Ally X only makes a big difference in battery life, but if you play at home, you don't need the battery.
Also, just keep in mind that I played Wukong on the Lenovo for 2 hours and 10 minutes with the battery on the Lenovo Legion Go.
On the ROG Ally, it was 3 hours. So the difference is 50 more minutes.
The rog ally is the only handheld I don’t want tbh, yea it has VRR, but that screen is so damn small with bezels, are you serious? When the screen fills the entire device it looks 100000 better. Just like on a desktop, the display is truly everything.
Cant decide which 1 to get
@@kieranhowe1346 tough choice. Theres a lot i love about both devices. But ask yourself about things such as battery life, screen size and features, weight and size of the device and so on. I plan on doing another video soon that isnt so game focused and more an overall comparison.
@GameTechPlanet tbh mine is only performance and battery really
Ally x quality issues let me Go to Go maybe.
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Rog ally x is perfect
I am loving the Ally X and I think the additional ram will really come into play as newer heavier games come out. But honestly I love all my handhelds lol
and yet 300$ more..
@@daw8099 its fine bro i work and earn
@daw8099 is not a problem if you have the money to buy it. All depends on the person and their budget. If you have the money definitely go for the X.
Yup. Me too preferred Ally X than other PC handhelds
The rog x runs slightly cooler
Sounds very biased toward the ally
No “ bias “ here other than the normal “ preference “ we feel towards certain things which forms our opinions. I live these devices and many orhers. The legion go and ally x are my favorite Windows handhelds. While I continue to prefer the screen on the Legion Go and the kickstand ( im not someone who ever removes the controllers ) the Ally X is my daily driver that I enjoy. For now. Lots of new stuff on the way. Ill always try to give u guys fact and opinion so you can make your own buying choices. And while I will always try to keep bias out. Its just human to have some bias and preferences no matter what. So i try to be clear in the videos. Appreciate the comment.
Even though the frame rates seem similar, almost every game runs smoother on the ally than legion go, not to mention the temperature on legion go is just crazy like 80 degrees Celsius on the racing game wtf lol.
ROG ALLY X is much better
😮
Other than the speakers, the Legion Go is a better device, I've owned both, the VRR on the Ally is a non issue, stuff still runs better and SMOOTHER on the Legion.