Is Triathlon a Clean Sport?
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I’m not going to lie, I’m so impressed with the interior design background 👏🏻
I think this is Cody Beal's place.
Me too, it’s pretty dope
There's a lot of money IF you are one of the best triathletes in the world. Yet we tell ourselves the winners are clean.
This has to be the most constructive and well stated response to this situation. 👏 Good luck at St George.
You are the first pro to actually send a constructive message as oposed to most hypocrites who just state how shameful doping is.
Lionel Sanders suggestion to take 10% of every PTO purse and put that toward testing the top 20 finishers at every race I thought was a great idea, you’d see really fast who was doping at the top of the sport.
@@dbk81 I am not sure on what basis did Lionel come to this number and how realistic it actually is but at least he came up with some idea.
@@coztebebude696 I think it was very much off the cuff, I have no idea what the cost of such testing would be, but he suggested putting it to a vote for PTO athletes to take money from winnings payouts to increase testing to ensure those winning the money were deserving and clean.
You have proven you can be in the podium while clean - keep going!
Thanks for video, I’ll love how you’ve taken a few days to let things set and come up with a very thoughtful and thorough video. Cheers.
As an age grouper I wasn’t naive enough to think nobody was cheating but this really hurts all round. Thinking about qualifying for 70.3 champs some day, I’ll try my freaking best but now this issue will be always on the back of my mind, specially if I you don’t qualify for one or two spots or something. Thanks again
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and ideas and for always being a great inspiration. Have a great race season!
A lot of people say it's impossible he was acting alone. But as you mention, his experience as a researcher, it could perfectly be possible he was acting alone (let's hope this is the case).
Fantastic vid. Very informative and constructive. One thing, your at the top of the sport. Your probably inside the top 10/15 long course guys in the world. I do think you on your day can win clean. It's the guys who are trying to break through and are outside the prize money doing it clean I feel for more. Must be very deflating for them looking on at ppl like Colin, who is already a class athlete and taking PED's on top of it. A three step backwards smack it gut.
When Nina Kraft tested positive after winning Kona in 2004, it was a huge inconvenience for Ironman at the time. Made me wonder how many athletes were told to “knock it off” behind the scenes. That being said, I think someone working behind the scenes for Ironman, ITU, UCI, whatever, would’ve come forward by now. None of those people are paid enough to keep secrets that close
Integrity is everything. I raced professionally for 13 years and can say I trusted just about all the athletes I competed against that they weren’t using substances or methods WADA that were banned. Why did I trust them? Because I had a feeling that the fallout would be catastrophic. Colin has been crucified. It is simply not worth cheating.
Unfortunately, I’ve been reading a lot of comments by people that think they know what their talking about. They think many, if not most of the professionals cheat…clearly not realizing it’s not worth the risk. Every single triathlete will have to work or live off of income outside of their professional career earnings after they retire. No one has made $50 million and can do nothing the rest of their lives.
Reputation and integrity are everything
By the way, I’m also scratching my head at the penalty. I’m pretty sure at one point, if an athlete tested positive for a drug as severe as EPO, previous month’s, if not 1 year’s results were wiped out. I was very shocked to hear the ban begin on the day of the positive test.
Thanks for your support! I agree completely, people who think most pros are doping clearly know nothing about the sport.
Great video man. The good guys can win. Super encouraging to see so many pros come out against doping.
I think the Norwegians are doping. I can’t shake it now that this all came out. Sucks but the scrutiny is there now. And always will be. And especially sucks for them if they truly aren’t. But alas here we are
I think you're right. There needs to be a rule that if anyone is caught, they have to pay back all prize winnings retroactively regardless; I would say of the last 5 years. I think that's fair recompense for wrongdoing. Good point.
Looking forward to tracking you on both events, good luck. I agree with lifetime band but not sure about returning prize money for before the event of being positive but yes I believe that the event he showed a positive the $$ need to be refunded and adjustments down the line for prize $ & overall standings. Also if positive at a IM 140.6 then your lifetime band for PTO etc. There’s a lot more to this story
Don’t start doping or you could lose all your winnings or all your recent winnings. Announce the changes to policy effective immediately and then some or all stop doping.
In between the lines he admits Colin is not the only pro doing epo
He's just the only one that was caught
More people need to see this! Great ideas and thoughts
In fairness to Ironman they caught a cheat
PTO didn’t
Do you really believe a natty athlete can stick with a user over an endurance race? Let's be real.
Very well done! You have the best attitude
Anyone that argues this is isolated, is naive or are cheating themselves!
100%, no sport is clean.
just do your best and dont worry about the rest.
Thanks for sharing man.
Attaboy Jackson 👊🏼
I'd say that the long distance triathlon wold has been very very naive about doping. Believing that it's a clean sport even though prize money are so high is just a lack of understanding.
Unfortunately money comes also with it. We know it in Trail Running too.
I believe more common in age group then pros
@@bobdown5520 Yes makes sense
No sport without doping. That's the simple and sad truth. BUT organizers - if you don't even try to find dopers, because you think only about your business, the whole sport is getting down - and with it your business. Yes, this anti doping hunt has a long tradition and it will never end. BUT athletes - its time to ACT NOW and to express your clear positions and ideas (like here), because the next doper will be found - and then it will be MUCH HARDER, OR QUITE IMPOSSIBLE to get credibility for you and OUR sport back. It's not about saying some nice right things now, it's about putting pressure on the scene and the organizers. Number ONE who has to act now is the PTO. They are bringing the most money to the sport. Don't dig your own hole, thinking that the old song of glory and superhumanity will hold the spirit of triathlon together. This all can come faster to an end as you think. May the REAL best woman and man win.
Great video Jackson 🫡
Excellent overview. 👍
Very insightful!
Do we know how effective low dosing of EPO is to performance?
Try it out and see 😂
Mark Allen on his TH-cam said 6%.
@@PhiyackYuh Sounds like you have.
Are you coming to Mt Tremblant?
Yes I will be there for the 70.3!
Good work!
Cheers Benjamin!
The fact he actually got popped is pretty surprising. Seeing as the half life of exogenous EPO is 4 hours. There is defiantly a lot of PED's being used in triathlon specifically long course IMO. IMO the age groupers, with a lot of mid 30's to mid 40's using TRT
Absolutely wrong. EPO can be detected for days and weeks, depending on the dose and if it's a blood or urine test. Maybe half life is 4 hours, no idea, but definitely detectable way longer than that
@@christoph_wattever if half life is 4 hours then in 8 hours it would be eliminated from the body completely. Administering EPO by IV has a half life of about 10 hours and about 19 hours by SC. It’s undetectable in urine by 3-4 days
@@jimjamthebananaman1 that's not how half life works😂
@@christoph_wattever yes it is. “Different drugs have different half-lives; however, they all follow this rule: after one half-life has passed, 50% of the initial drug amount is removed from the body” - Hallere and Gerriets (2022). That’s the definition taken from a peer reviewed literature review. I’ll post the link so you can educate yourself on pharmacokinetics
@@jimjamthebananaman1 yes but half life doesn't mean that in double the amount of time 100% of the substance is eliminated. It could be that half life of a substance is 2 days but 100% elimination takes years. It's not a linear elimination, that's the point
A clean athlete would never beat a drug using athlete
You know quite a lot about EPO and the pros of „small amount“ doping, Sir. Interesting.
Take a page from the weightlifters, have a clean and a juiced category...
EPO is super expensive. There’s no way a guy with a ton of debt and no money could afford EPO.
That’s where the debt and credit card charges came from
@@BillBrinkop hahaha maybe you’re right! None of these pro triathlete make Jack shit tho. God bless them for literally putting their bodies through all of that for a six figure income or less.
There is no incentive for clean sport
It's called dignity
@@triathlontimmy and where is the podium for that ?
@@hugopiteira405 You must not know how integrity works.
@@triathlontimmy I actually do, but it seems you don't know how human nature works, or you discard the fact that there is no integrity when you are competing against cheaters. Unless you can have your money and time back.
There is no dignity neither integrity when you are being cheated.
If you consent that with a smile you can call it humility.
Dudes play chess take peds for concentration..yea triathlete are clean 😅
Lionel Sanders is Microdosing testosterone, which he probably calls TRT…. And Microdosing EPO…..
Why don’t you just all dope and see who’s better
One, because it’s cheating, as it goes explicitly against the rules. Two, no real athlete or sportsman takes pride in winning artificially. “Winning,” here, is a loaded word.
Well Jackson,.....you know very well that dopping does not make a donkey faster. Most of positive dopping cases it happens at the top level. Athletes under a lor of preasure will dope. But they are good already......it's hard to clean up peoples mind under this insane preasure. Sponsors are one to blame to!
Awesome attitude and your desire to ensure credibility to the sport. Looking forward to watching you race, I find you one of the most exciting to watch. Plus you're Canadian and trained with LPC which I did for a few years with Mark and James. Unfortunately I was hit by a car last year and not able to continue training for my first IM. I'm very inspired by your accomplishments and the fact that you bounced back from your own accident. Thanks for posting this valuable message and best of luck in your next two races.
I’m so sorry to hear about your accident. I hope you make a full recovery and are able to come back for another try some day! I have switched to riding indoors 90% of the time, even when it’s summer, because of stories like yours and close calls of my own. I wish the roads were safer for cyclists.
Thanks for putting this out there Jackson ! Well done 👍
Thank you! You and Jackie Herring gave the most sensible comments about this recent doping issue.
Agreed. Jackie Herring did a great vid as well
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Best of luck at St. George and Florida! Both are races I want to do someday. Excited to follow along and listen to your recaps!
Thanks Jason!
If you’re pro it is matter what place you are (prize money, sponsors etc) if you’re an age grouper trying to get a pro card it is matter what place you are. And age groupers are cheating as well but no one tests them 😂 or the dope in winter and clean before the race
If you have a TUE and take a PED, are you doping? Because you are doping only legally 🤔
You’re ignorant if you think a clean athlete could beat another elite athlete who is doping
It’s only one factor that improves performance, if the clean athletes do everything else better I believe we have a chance. I’m not saying every time, but we can still pull it off.
When is the U.S. govt going to act on the H.R.835 - Rodchenkov Anti-Doping Act of 2019
This act is now in play but nothing is happening.
Test the Norwegians between 11pm and 6am. Just saying.
That’s one of the most thoughtful responses I’ve heard on the issue. Thanks for sharing.
Shocked???
Poor testing process + cyclists =
Great video 🎉loved hearing your perspective on how to improve the rules around doping
Thank you!
Can’t wait to watch the St. George battle! Best of luck!
Great video Jackson!
Is triathlon clean? No, next.
Well said. Still blows my mind
I am impressed with your video facts and your attitude towards the sport awesome I am a fan. Keep up the good work.
Thanks James!
I dont think its cheating.
Can’t find the video on Lionel’s channel. Maybe he turned that private for some reasons
The video was on his instagram account not TH-cam.
If someone was living with Lance and being coached by Dr Ferrari you think they were clean? Lmaoooooooooo give LS an Emmy
The age groupers will fund it simple as that look how easy it is to qualify to a world champs
Buddy 90% is on this stuff and it's almost impossible to get caught. Get on the program or get a real job.
Steroids actually made mlb more entertaining. Just saying…
Honestly the only way to solve the problem is to level the playing field completely and stop drug testing all together. Unfortunately passing a drug test is slightly easier than passing a first grade spelling test. Completely agree that there’s a low incentive for organizations to catch people.
Thanks for your thoughts! But, I couldn’t disagree more. What kind of message does it send our youth that you have to take drugs that are illegal, and potentially harmful to your health if not taken properly, to compete? At a high level? Although the testing doesn’t catch many people and is far from perfect, it’s a strong deterrent to doping. Some people who otherwise might won’t cheat just because they’re scared of getting caught. Lastly, those who still decide to dope have to be careful and use less PEDs than they otherwise would in order to avoid testing positive, and hopefully they lose sleep at night knowing they’re a POS fraud who can’t win clean.
Jackson thank you for a respectful reply. Seriously, it says a lot about your character that you can disagree so strongly but do so in a constructive way. Don't let my skepticism bother you too much. Wish you the best in your training and racing for this coming year!
Jackson, you are all whining about earnings that potentially could have been won, We all thought ya'll did events f or the "FUN" of it! Stop wasting your energy complaining about this issue, Chartier has been banned for three years and why throw Collin under the bus because he studies hematocrites! He still had to put in the "HOURS" of training, Just like the adorable commercial of Lance A. where he states that people/haters were complaining that he was using enhancement drugs and the commercial goes: What are you on? And Lance states: "What am I on? I'm on my bike six hours a day, what are you on? Boom! GG! Then all ya'll are cheating when you get on an aero bike, why not just participate in a Huffy bicycle and that should be the only authorized bike that can be used in any event! All the best Atheletes are doping! that is just fact!!