This was something I figured out for myself way back in the Pod Farm days, and was then, and is still today, one of the easiest ways to get a sim tone to sound "fuller"/ less sterile.
@@harryanderson7282 dang. I haven’t owned a rocktron anything since back when I had a prophecy preamp! The metal planets seem to be on the cheaper end of resale. Might just grab one!
If you like the MKIII pickle, try the MKII. I tried the large and small version and kept the large... I might order like 3x of the small version though from skmehwre with a return policy to do a super nerd comparison though, because fuzz pedals seem to have variations between them.
Yep. I have been experimenting with running a small pedal board like an outboard preamp by routing a clean DI track line out from the DAW and back into my interface. It works pretty well!
I’ve been doing this a bunch lately. I run the pedal into interface, then onto a track with Genome. In Genome I use their plain power amp model and a cab IR. For extra awesomeness use the Genome built in NAM module instead of their power amp model. Some dudes on tone hunt have uploaded a bunch of quality power amp only captures of famous amps.
Super honest opinion: when I heard Colossus, I immediately though: ewwww, so digital... And then the Pickle, and I thought: you really perfectly captured the sound of it with Colossus :) My verdict: the differences are negligible, much more prominent in the SD. But at the end of the day distortion is about destroying the signal and this is something that even early PODs did well.
I think the sounds aren’t super far from each other. And really, slamming fuzz into a high gain channel is a bit overkill. The digital effects have a slight flatness to them that doesn’t respond quite right to dynamic picking. There is something in the way the analog circuit being in front of the interface changes the response when picking. I have my buffer pretty low and the latency is pretty negligible. I may try out some more mellow tones and see if there is anything substantial when trying to produce more dynamic sounds using pedals. Part of me was looking at plug-in companies that were selling modeled versions of pedals I already own and thinking… thats cool! But then thinking, why not just use the actual pedal? I guess same could be said about amps.
@@BaritoneGoatStudio Most amp people will swear that as good the modelers are (for gigging), they will record their tracks on real amps. I don't hear much of a difference in a mix and probably most of the crowd too. But the feeling of amp pumping through the cab in the room is something that cannot be replicated just by hooking a guitar to an interface (as handy as it is).
This was something I figured out for myself way back in the Pod Farm days, and was then, and is still today, one of the easiest ways to get a sim tone to sound "fuller"/ less sterile.
So far I am enjoying cycling a few pedals through to see what I get.
@@BaritoneGoatStudio Shall I tell you a secret then? Rocktron Metal Planet. ;)
@@harryanderson7282 dang. I haven’t owned a rocktron anything since back when I had a prophecy preamp! The metal planets seem to be on the cheaper end of resale. Might just grab one!
The real pedals give me what I'm already used to, and just a touch of analog unpredictability.
If you like the MKIII pickle, try the MKII.
I tried the large and small version and kept the large... I might order like 3x of the small version though from skmehwre with a return policy to do a super nerd comparison though, because fuzz pedals seem to have variations between them.
I should try the different variants! I really like the pickle in general.
I have been doing this for years. It’s still good ideas to record a clean non overdriven signal in case you need it.
Yep. I have been experimenting with running a small pedal board like an outboard preamp by routing a clean DI track line out from the DAW and back into my interface. It works pretty well!
@@BaritoneGoatStudio I need to try it with a DIY box.
I’ve been doing this a bunch lately. I run the pedal into interface, then onto a track with Genome. In Genome I use their plain power amp model and a cab IR. For extra awesomeness use the Genome built in NAM module instead of their power amp model. Some dudes on tone hunt have uploaded a bunch of quality power amp only captures of famous amps.
Modeled power amps?! Hell yeah. I gotta get beck on to tone hunt. What a time to be a guitarist!
Super honest opinion: when I heard Colossus, I immediately though: ewwww, so digital... And then the Pickle, and I thought: you really perfectly captured the sound of it with Colossus :)
My verdict: the differences are negligible, much more prominent in the SD. But at the end of the day distortion is about destroying the signal and this is something that even early PODs did well.
I think the sounds aren’t super far from each other. And really, slamming fuzz into a high gain channel is a bit overkill. The digital effects have a slight flatness to them that doesn’t respond quite right to dynamic picking. There is something in the way the analog circuit being in front of the interface changes the response when picking. I have my buffer pretty low and the latency is pretty negligible. I may try out some more mellow tones and see if there is anything substantial when trying to produce more dynamic sounds using pedals.
Part of me was looking at plug-in companies that were selling modeled versions of pedals I already own and thinking… thats cool! But then thinking, why not just use the actual pedal? I guess same could be said about amps.
@@BaritoneGoatStudio Most amp people will swear that as good the modelers are (for gigging), they will record their tracks on real amps. I don't hear much of a difference in a mix and probably most of the crowd too. But the feeling of amp pumping through the cab in the room is something that cannot be replicated just by hooking a guitar to an interface (as handy as it is).
The Swollen Pickle is on my list....
It is a fat and nasty tone without sounding too harsh!
Hey its the metalzone guy here, did you try the pickle pedal straight into an ir?
No, but now I want to!
Analog yes! Digital amps have come a long way, but pedal sims... meh.. usable but not amazing.
The pedals do seem to be an afterthought in a lot of the plug-in suites.
Duck… now I want a fuzz
The pickle is a mean sounding one!