Just discovered this channel the other day. Been leveling a paladin on the fresh classic realm. Was going ret but hit 30 yesterday and full stam/intell, holy/prot build. I feel like a god, the amount of mobs i can pull at once. Very easy to get into dungeons because i can tank or heal. Thanks for the videos, and I'm having "fun" in wow as a paladin
can you show your level 28 build? i am super confused about all the builds to level… i am level 23, all points in the red tree and it kinda sucks ass to level
I was curious, if you can tell me what build speed leveling hc Palas go. I saw that on my server in eu hc some palas were quite far ahead of the pack but i did not ask them. Do you have an idea if the people playing solo pala on hc are also playing this, or are they playing ret leveling pala?
"Speed Leveling" and "HC" don't mix. So my #1 Advice here is that it is a HORRIBLE idea. That being said speed leveling a Paladin is always Duo Leveling... aka 2 Players. War + Pally Lock + Pally Mage + Pally Are all INSANELY good duo leveling teams. Look up "Classic WoW Duo Leveling Guide" on youtube... Defcamp and Melderon will show up or Kargoz if you are lucky on this subject. Duo Leveling EXP gains are like 120% a mob kill... or 130... its more TOTAL exp split 50/50. Pally + MAGE is the fastest by far. Paladin helps gather packs safely for the mage to blizzard and is SUPER good at it. On non-HC Servers THEE best Speed Leveling group is 4 mages and 1 Paladin spaming dungeons. As the Paladin can speed pot... run off and gather 1/3 of the dungeon mobs to AoE down. Other then that... Stam/Spirt Gear tell level 41... then either Stam/spirt to 60 or get Stam/Int Plate and AoE to 60. But solo... its kinda slow for Paladin in general.
Been waiting for this!! Never did vanilla. Started in TBC and pally was WAY more worked than now …esp for tanking. Been gutting through fresh classic. Tough.
"way more worked" he says... hmmm... you must mean for PvE. Because for PvP... NOTHING TBC has makes up for the loss of Classic WoW Reckoning. Not JoJ... not 15% Move Speed... Not Crusader Strike... not healing/sp gear... nothing beats "I touch you... you die"
@@pallytime2156 LOL! Yes, for pve. Pvp was never my thing. Here in fresh, I'm only an abysmal level 21 and working my way towards reckoning. Excited to see what all the fuss is about. Loved it in tbc. You could pull a HUGE pack of mobs, seal of light, and reck would be on perma-proc ...keeping you fully healed as the mobs just porcupined themselves to death. And don't even get me started on dungeon tanking! I couldn't lose aggro even if I tried! Just an aoe-super pull machine! By the way, thanks for all these super indepth guides. You've helped me a TON!
Update lvl 37 with your stam/spirit build in HC. Hanging in there. I'm still not sure if I'm optimally playing it. Would love some more content on combat. The hour and a half video is a bit messy.
Southern Desolace is FULL of Undead Next to the Nutral Centars. Go Grind Mobs there tell you hit level 41. Quest a Bit... Tank some Dungeons. ITs boring. I like the blue 2 hand AXE that has +66 attack power vs UD. But level 36-38 SUCK! And I really just hang in there with a 2 hander.
@@pallytime2156 Thanks! I just did the scarlet crusade quest in Desolace, no problem (not a fan of grinding without quests). Currently doing 11/x/0 with a knightly longsword. Kill times aren't great but I'm very tanky and I feel super safe at all times. If I understood you right, for NON undeads I'm opening with Seal of the Crusader Judgement, then I inmediately pop Seal of Righteousness and judge 2 times while I use consecration rank 1 twice.
@@MarianoGianni1 Yeah that's about right. VS UD Exorcism replaces Consecration and you get to pull the mobs at range with it. Flee Free to mess around with a 2 hander if you like... you just double judge SoR with the 2 hander. What causes me to use a 2 hander over a 1 hander is if the mobs don't RUN and ehter are no Patrols around. If that is the case then 2 handers are fine. Your "EMERGENCEY" fighting is to use Knightly + Seal and Judgement of Light. So if you are fighting 2 hander and sudenly its 1v3 for whatever reason and running is a bad idea... Out comes the shield, fast 1 hander, and double Seal of Light. AH prices also sometimes force me to use 2 handers
2024.12.17 Anniversary servers - I'm getting 0 reck stacks whatsoever in any circumstances; taking a crit normally, taking a crit sitting. It feels like the talent is broken (this is from NPCs)
No servers avalible will have to test it tommorow. Only 2 posibilites here... 1 you are doing it wrong... 2 its bugged and will be patched rather quickly.
Its really fascinating how Pally has changed since Era came out, due to how overlooked the class was it didn't see the same level of optimization as warriors, and while we're 20 years in now it's good to see pallys finally getting their due. I'm not big into PvP, more of a questing enjoyer myself, spent the last 10 days leveling like a maniac & became the 2nd lvl 60 pally on the PvE server with 6 days, 10 hours /played w/o aoe farming or dungeon spam (I can feel the eye strain, lol). Most of that speed was that I'm trying to finally quit WoW after playing for 18 years & wanted to level to max one final time. Still, despite that I'm (probably) gonna keep watching these videos because I like to learn a bit more about the behind the scenes on the class & will be looking forward to seeing how this build pans out. At least with dual-spec you can run a more normal healing build for raiding so you don't have to spend tons of gold or try and make a hybrid build that does both.
@@tape_saturationhe says a lot of things. Of course strictly for pvp you can consider skipping it since it will be dispelled or you use BoP or Freedom. But it is a great blessing to have in generall. Really strong.
@@TheDarkmining dou you recommend blessing of kings over blessing of Wisdom while leveling? also which aura do you recommend for dungeon healing as a pala?
Human PvP Racial in TBC is a free PvP trinket... best PvP racial in the game. Dwarf has best Alliance Racial for paladin in Classic. Works on rogue blind in Classic but not in TBC
@@pallytime2156 In TBC you went human if you wanted perception against rogues. Every man for themself (pvp trinket) not until wrath or maybe even cata.
Lol. Doesn't work on Paladin. Basically we Seal Wisdom which costs 200 mana and has 4s PPM... meaning a 3.0 Speed Wep would have a 75% Chance to Proc it on hit. So its Seal while swinging... Hit... get 70 mana on average... total cost = 130 mana Costs Priest 258 mana to dispell it. If they don't dispell it then they will lose a mana war vs paladin. You also use little things like Skelly pet summon and Recombobulator Ray Trinket (heals 500 HP with 100% +healing Ratio so more like 750 HP and gives 500 Mana on Average)... or Dragonfruit ... can't use both they share a CD. Its enough mana to Holy Light. Then there is the effects of the 180+ Shadow Resist you can ware. Mana Burst is a Shadow Resist Check... so you will Resist 25% of those burns. If you want ANY Paladin vs Shadow Priest in a Duel tournament... they just lose a mana war and there isn't all that much they can do about it.
@@pallytime2156 why are there no pallys winning any big tournaments? I dont think i've ever seen a pally win a duel tournament on official servers. I dont play private servers. Do the few of you just not have time or interest? It's always warlocks, mages, and rogues.
@@kiljaedyn They win Server Wide Duel Tournements held by Guids in ERA. THey are hard to find footage of. ESFAND is to blame for why you don't see Paladins winning Tounements. He had Himself and Peaceblade and a number of other worshipers of his represent "Paladin" in said tournements. Paladins that at the time (Peaceblade and Holysaxyboy are MUCH better now) where at the time not even Top 50 Best Paladin PvPers they could have had in this servers. Go back and WATCH the dins in the tournements... and count how many are Crusader Guild...that was Esfands Guild back in the day.
@@kiljaedyn Go watch "Drakova vs Venruki" if you want to see what a Chad Paladin looks like. He ALMOST wins... but he fails to play defensively to get 2nd bubble and Ven realizes the danger and goes all in to get him to use it Defensively.
For your next playthrough you could try to keybind your skills instead of mouse-clicking. Its really helpful for pvp or pve.
I’m very excited for the tanking guide. Really enjoying the pally experience so hard and taking your advice on the recent videos. Thanks!
Just discovered this channel the other day. Been leveling a paladin on the fresh classic realm. Was going ret but hit 30 yesterday and full stam/intell, holy/prot build. I feel like a god, the amount of mobs i can pull at once. Very easy to get into dungeons because i can tank or heal. Thanks for the videos, and I'm having "fun" in wow as a paladin
I like Stam/Spirt tell level 41. At 41 that is when Stam/Int Plate gear is BiS on Paladin. Stam/Int is 2nd BiS
can you show your level 28 build? i am super confused about all the builds to level… i am level 23, all points in the red tree and it kinda sucks ass to level
I was curious, if you can tell me what build speed leveling hc Palas go. I saw that on my server in eu hc some palas were quite far ahead of the pack but i did not ask them. Do you have an idea if the people playing solo pala on hc are also playing this, or are they playing ret leveling pala?
"Speed Leveling" and "HC" don't mix. So my #1 Advice here is that it is a HORRIBLE idea.
That being said speed leveling a Paladin is always Duo Leveling... aka 2 Players.
War + Pally
Lock + Pally
Mage + Pally
Are all INSANELY good duo leveling teams.
Look up "Classic WoW Duo Leveling Guide" on youtube... Defcamp and Melderon will show up or Kargoz if you are lucky on this subject.
Duo Leveling EXP gains are like 120% a mob kill... or 130... its more TOTAL exp split 50/50.
Pally + MAGE is the fastest by far. Paladin helps gather packs safely for the mage to blizzard and is SUPER good at it.
On non-HC Servers THEE best Speed Leveling group is 4 mages and 1 Paladin spaming dungeons. As the Paladin can speed pot... run off and gather 1/3 of the dungeon mobs to AoE down.
Other then that... Stam/Spirt Gear tell level 41... then either Stam/spirt to 60 or get Stam/Int Plate and AoE to 60.
But solo... its kinda slow for Paladin in general.
Hey so as far as pvp ranking, this can be done on reg servers too via all the bgs right?
Everyone Ranks in BG's yes. No matter the server.
is it possible to use the race change service in the hardcore anniversary server? i'm not planning to, just wonder if possibile for the future
Nah
Die in HC and Transfer the char to normal server = I bet it works
Been waiting for this!!
Never did vanilla. Started in TBC and pally was WAY more worked than now …esp for tanking.
Been gutting through fresh classic. Tough.
"way more worked" he says... hmmm... you must mean for PvE. Because for PvP... NOTHING TBC has makes up for the loss of Classic WoW Reckoning.
Not JoJ... not 15% Move Speed... Not Crusader Strike... not healing/sp gear... nothing beats "I touch you... you die"
@@pallytime2156 LOL! Yes, for pve. Pvp was never my thing.
Here in fresh, I'm only an abysmal level 21 and working my way towards reckoning. Excited to see what all the fuss is about. Loved it in tbc. You could pull a HUGE pack of mobs, seal of light, and reck would be on perma-proc ...keeping you fully healed as the mobs just porcupined themselves to death.
And don't even get me started on dungeon tanking! I couldn't lose aggro even if I tried! Just an aoe-super pull machine!
By the way, thanks for all these super indepth guides. You've helped me a TON!
Update lvl 37 with your stam/spirit build in HC. Hanging in there. I'm still not sure if I'm optimally playing it. Would love some more content on combat. The hour and a half video is a bit messy.
Southern Desolace is FULL of Undead Next to the Nutral Centars.
Go Grind Mobs there tell you hit level 41.
Quest a Bit... Tank some Dungeons.
ITs boring.
I like the blue 2 hand AXE that has +66 attack power vs UD.
But level 36-38 SUCK! And I really just hang in there with a 2 hander.
@@pallytime2156 Thanks! I just did the scarlet crusade quest in Desolace, no problem (not a fan of grinding without quests). Currently doing 11/x/0 with a knightly longsword. Kill times aren't great but I'm very tanky and I feel super safe at all times.
If I understood you right, for NON undeads I'm opening with Seal of the Crusader Judgement, then I inmediately pop Seal of Righteousness and judge 2 times while I use consecration rank 1 twice.
@@MarianoGianni1 Yeah that's about right. VS UD Exorcism replaces Consecration and you get to pull the mobs at range with it.
Flee Free to mess around with a 2 hander if you like... you just double judge SoR with the 2 hander.
What causes me to use a 2 hander over a 1 hander is if the mobs don't RUN and ehter are no Patrols around.
If that is the case then 2 handers are fine.
Your "EMERGENCEY" fighting is to use Knightly + Seal and Judgement of Light.
So if you are fighting 2 hander and sudenly its 1v3 for whatever reason and running is a bad idea...
Out comes the shield, fast 1 hander, and double Seal of Light.
AH prices also sometimes force me to use 2 handers
2024.12.17 Anniversary servers - I'm getting 0 reck stacks whatsoever in any circumstances; taking a crit normally, taking a crit sitting. It feels like the talent is broken (this is from NPCs)
Well I have 1 point in reckoning on my HC pally right now I can go test it really fast
No servers avalible will have to test it tommorow. Only 2 posibilites here... 1 you are doing it wrong... 2 its bugged and will be patched rather quickly.
Its really fascinating how Pally has changed since Era came out, due to how overlooked the class was it didn't see the same level of optimization as warriors, and while we're 20 years in now it's good to see pallys finally getting their due.
I'm not big into PvP, more of a questing enjoyer myself, spent the last 10 days leveling like a maniac & became the 2nd lvl 60 pally on the PvE server with 6 days, 10 hours /played w/o aoe farming or dungeon spam (I can feel the eye strain, lol). Most of that speed was that I'm trying to finally quit WoW after playing for 18 years & wanted to level to max one final time.
Still, despite that I'm (probably) gonna keep watching these videos because I like to learn a bit more about the behind the scenes on the class & will be looking forward to seeing how this build pans out.
At least with dual-spec you can run a more normal healing build for raiding so you don't have to spend tons of gold or try and make a hybrid build that does both.
What Build and gear do u use for leveling ? I’m new into pala and want to know :)
did you change your mind on Blessing of Kings?
Its really good
@TheDarkmining yeah im just wondering because in another recent video he said its not worth to get it
@@tape_saturationhe says a lot of things. Of course strictly for pvp you can consider skipping it since it will be dispelled or you use BoP or Freedom. But it is a great blessing to have in generall. Really strong.
@@TheDarkmining dou you recommend blessing of kings over blessing of Wisdom while leveling? also which aura do you recommend for dungeon healing as a pala?
While leveling BoW all time. "Time is mana".
Tanking guide? Nice, waiting for that to drop
I need to find a Pallytime to watch for all the other classes. I really enjoy the long form and all the nuances passed down from expertise. Thanks 🙏👍
If you like Rogue, that person is Simonize
Cant speak to the other classes
I would play holy duelist/ret reckoning this fresh. Mostly because in TBC you will be going shockadin/ret. Might as well practice now lol.
Listening to your videos while questing my 16 pally lol
Why do you need a dwarf for vanilla and a human for TBC?
Human PvP Racial in TBC is a free PvP trinket... best PvP racial in the game.
Dwarf has best Alliance Racial for paladin in Classic. Works on rogue blind in Classic but not in TBC
@@pallytime2156ur trolling right that’s not until wrath buddy
@@darkstar2205 Humm I could be wrong but I don't think so
@@darkstar2205 Hmmm you might be right.
@@pallytime2156 In TBC you went human if you wanted perception against rogues. Every man for themself (pvp trinket) not until wrath or maybe even cata.
Why everything is chinese? Even he is american
I Married a Hong Kong Girl... and Now live in China. All the Computers here are in Chinese and cannot be changed... Kek
im just sayin, my priest is just gonna mana burn you and laugh.
Lol. Doesn't work on Paladin. Basically we Seal Wisdom which costs 200 mana and has 4s PPM... meaning a 3.0 Speed Wep would have a 75% Chance to Proc it on hit.
So its Seal while swinging... Hit... get 70 mana on average... total cost = 130 mana
Costs Priest 258 mana to dispell it.
If they don't dispell it then they will lose a mana war vs paladin.
You also use little things like Skelly pet summon and Recombobulator Ray Trinket (heals 500 HP with 100% +healing Ratio so more like 750 HP and gives 500 Mana on Average)... or Dragonfruit ... can't use both they share a CD.
Its enough mana to Holy Light.
Then there is the effects of the 180+ Shadow Resist you can ware. Mana Burst is a Shadow Resist Check... so you will Resist 25% of those burns.
If you want ANY Paladin vs Shadow Priest in a Duel tournament... they just lose a mana war and there isn't all that much they can do about it.
@@pallytime2156 why are there no pallys winning any big tournaments? I dont think i've ever seen a pally win a duel tournament on official servers. I dont play private servers. Do the few of you just not have time or interest? It's always warlocks, mages, and rogues.
@@kiljaedyn They win Server Wide Duel Tournements held by Guids in ERA. THey are hard to find footage of.
ESFAND is to blame for why you don't see Paladins winning Tounements.
He had Himself and Peaceblade and a number of other worshipers of his represent "Paladin" in said tournements. Paladins that at the time (Peaceblade and Holysaxyboy are MUCH better now) where at the time not even Top 50 Best Paladin PvPers they could have had in this servers.
Go back and WATCH the dins in the tournements... and count how many are Crusader Guild...that was Esfands Guild back in the day.
@@kiljaedyn Go watch "Drakova vs Venruki" if you want to see what a Chad Paladin looks like. He ALMOST wins... but he fails to play defensively to get 2nd bubble and Ven realizes the danger and goes all in to get him to use it Defensively.
PvP forcing us to play dwarfes
Lol
female dwarf is bis. Casting animations and you look like yoda with the special 2h attack.
@@stevenpitera8978 100% agree. + 2hair tails
Tanking guide? Nice, waiting for that to drop