@@Freimopp777 but much more reliable and has the engine in the right sport Lol. They way i see it their are both icons except one is unreliable pos, the new ones at least and the other is everymans sport cars, now if u want to compare apples to apples then the corvette is a much better performing Car Than a 911 at a fraction of the price Once again more Reliable.
@@Freimopp777 oh jd power huh u mean the PR firms? Those are the same Ones that rank kia and hyundai on top of honda and toyota yet have shitty depreciation lol bro seriously, if u buy a porsche is cuz ur shit is too small or u want to flaunt it. Also most Porsche i seen dont make it over 100k there was a time when i wanted one untill i found how crappy their reliability is i said no thanx, U go on used market and lots of corvettes over 100k ans running just fine why? Reliability also that “only maintenance bs u say about porsche cost a fortune, i truly hate cara that are over priced and unreliable and german take the cake on that. Do u even own a porsche??
I bought my '88 as a low milage used car in 1990 and still have it! Great car, lots of good memories associated with it. By the way, the only thing that has ever broken was the passenger side power window motor and that happened back in '93 or so.
There’s a car repair shop literally facing my house and I can see, hear and smell one of those (a dark metallic green one) every single day for the past 2 months, it’s so nice.
Yeah I think the 80's 911 is one of the coolest looking cars ever made. Performance is actually pretty impressive for 214 hp. O-60 in 5.7 is pretty damn quick
@@MasterMalrubius I thought the same when I was 19. I was very very lucky to buy a 1987 Guards red 5 years ago. Mint condition. I don't not sleep well everytime the night before I take it out. Honeymoon has end. Try to grab 1. You only live once.
The dollar took a dive in the late 80's. I bought my 85 used in 88. Its sticker for a well-optioned car in 85 was $36,500. Those 3 yrs were not kind to the dollar.
I was born in 1988, and the 911 has always been a icon of a car for me Sure, Countach & Testarossa were wonderful to look at, but I'm still not sure to drive a Lambo or Ferrari daily This year I got my first Porsche ever, a Carmine red 911 Carrera 4S 2020 with the aero kit So thanks for sharing!
I’d rather have this exact car than ANY modern Porsche, including the GT3/GT2 variants. They have just gotten so big, heavy and complex. I want this car! I always have. To me, this is the ideal sports car in every way, from its looks, performance, quirky traits, to its great reliability. Unfortunately, even high mileage examples cost about as much now as the one tested in this video! I really screwed up and missed some great opportunities to buy one of these fantastic cars over the years at very reasonable prices...that time has now passed forever I’m afraid.
Yup, ditto. And if you have one, now three years after your comment, they are 6 figures making insurance and other operating costs higher, not to mention worrying about more all resulting in a little less enjoyment. Just a little less.
I just love my 86 cab. The sound is awesome and such an experience. Good in the snow too. That heater he bummed on works great and mine has dual controls. The car is so much fun! Franny
Back when Porsche built cars for sport, and not gussied up grocery getters. It took a real driver to keep the front wheels of one of these, out front. It's a tough learning curve, but well worth the lesson.
tiny b you know Porsche still has tons of driver-focused models in its current line-up, they simply understand that no one is going to pay 6-figures for 80s-era sports car ergonomics unless it’s something super niche like an Ariel Atom
Hard to believe the 993 was criticised when it came out for dialling out that particular character in the handling. Yet I distinctly remember the front end of a 997 S I was piloting going very light at 140mph on a slight bend so it was still there up until recently in 911 range. It scared the sh*t out of me in all honesty!
Timeless iconic looks, bullet proof motor, phenomenal cornering with direct feeling of the road makes it one of the finest classics if not the finest ever built...
The key on the left was for a good reason. Back in the day of racing where the drivers would run to the cars, start them and take off, turn key with left hand, shift with the right, shave off even a couple seconds.
Just to clarify, the silver '88 in this video is actually a 1988 Commemorative Edition (CE) in Diamond Blue (with Ferry Porsche signatures on the seats) that commemorates the 250,000 911 made, not an anniversary edition. The silver anniversary edition was release in 1989 to celebrate the 25th anniversary. A common error made on the internet. I have an '88 CE the same as in this video.
Fully restoring an 87 in Guards Red that I bought as a roller 6months ago. Just got a full drivetrain from an 89. Excited to get it on a track! I'm using the whale tail as wall art and going with a flat rear deck, but keeping the front spoiler. Great to see these old reviews
Great honest review. I vaguely remember this one for the silver anniversary model. Any 911 is so entertaining to drive. The rear end just digs in when accelerating out of turns.
Love the vintage videos. Always baffled by the power creep: A bit over 200hp in a dedicated sports car seems not much today but that was still plenty back in the day when everything above 100hp was "powerful". Haha.
My 85 911 weighs only 2750 lbs. The power creep over time closely follows vehicles' increased weight. Low weight, good handling and excellent brakes make a modestly-powered car quick. Can't believe the reviewer did not mention that the left side ignition is a LeMans standing-start relic. And in 30 yrs of ownership, I've never said "wish it had ABS."
I've owned my 88 since new and she's currently getting mechanical refreshing. She's thirty-two so new fuel lines, brake lines, valve adjustment, new suspension bushings, tires...
My dad had a 1987 Targa and we managed to pack five people into the car. I was at least 6' tall at the time and I sat behind my 5'2" stepmother and little brother. But, this was back in the '80s when there were things like kids sitting on laps instead of being in seats.
I remember wanting one. Automobile magazine made it sound very suitable. Girlfriend at TU had one. I figured out the 944 or 928 would have been more suitable for me.
I'm doing a restoration of a 1989 3.2 coupe now. I drove the car a bit before I tore it down because I wanted to feel the driving dynamics and see if if it would be worth the blood, sweat, tears, expense, and time it would take to do the work. It is and so much more. With no power steering and the weight at the very rear they literally feel like a go kart. And then after you're done driving you get to look back and see the iconic silhouette. Prices are high now and climbing so if you have the juice to buy one, make sure there's some left unsqueezed for the stuff you'll need and then want to do to it. It's worth it.
The shadow of the substantial derrick-like roof mounted camera mount to capture the rear end swinging around really shows the age of the filming technology of the day.
Mine had issues with the clutch, heater fans, A/C, window seals, overheating in traffic, and the passenger door latch broke while going around a curve. But every day I drove it was like the first day. Unfortunately, my (financial) circumstances forced me to sell it in 2012. I miss it EVERY day. It was awesome to see this, but it broke my heart a little.
I have an '88 911. One virtue of this car that wasn't fully apparent at the time was its reliability. Mine has been more reliable than a Toyota. Excellent build quality.
@@rodmunch69 The only two things the 901/911 chassis has in common with the beetle is the rear engine layout and that is uses torsion bars. Absolutely nothing else in the actual design is even close.
$50,865 in 1988 is the same as $108,311 today. A brand-new 911 Carrera 2 today, equipped as sparsely as the one in the review, would run you no more than, what, $80K? $85K? So they’ve gotten cheaper over the years. Makes you wonder what they’re *not* doing today that they *did* do back then... Or if it’s just the general cost of manufacturing that has decreased because manufacturing technology has gotten so much better in the past 30 years.
I think some products just pace inflation measures different than others. Many cars have fared similar, they are cheaper now, maybe as tech becomes cheaper. I wish I could buy housing in my area at 1989 prices adjusted for inflation.
During the 90s during the boxters development Porsche hired Toyota to help them streamline their production process and Toyota reduced the cost of assembling a 911 by 50%. The Toyota Production System is used in most large assembly factories nowadays.
Tedward Yours is the 88? So it has the G50. I can't imagine what he would have thought of my 86 915 box ;) he was a bit harsh on the interior. 50G? Daymnn ...
@@paulk9985 actually I own a big house in a very nice gated community and I got a Corvette and a BMW in the garage. Now I grew up poor, had to live in a trailer, but I used that experience to better myself - not just sit around on welfare talking about how awful everything new is because I'm too poor to afford it.
@@rodmunch69 Well, you sure told me. I stand corrected. You certainly did accomplish all the important tangibles in life that we mere mortals could only dream to achieve. I am certainly very impressed now... along with all of the other people on TH-cam who read your monumental achievements. You now have one more feather to add to your cap - buying expensive items to impress others. And we all now know of the deficiency between your legs.
This particular model in good original condition is still worth the selling price today. What if I told you buy a new car and 30 years later you can come get your money back. Not lose a penny except with factoring inflation but who cares. What a hell of a deal. Hence why the get richer because high end cars and real estate never lose value.
People think that Porsche is lazy for never changing the design. From an engineering stand point it's actually harder to maintain the 911s design and world dominance over all these years and and still retain the fact that the engine is in the wrong place.
I remember in the 1980's the freeways were only 55 mph to save gas and clean the air .... moving the speed limit to 65mph felt like the starship enterprise !
Given the comparison with the Esprit, it bears noting how differently the values of the two cars have tracked over the years. The Esprit S3 may have started out $20k more expensive than a Carrera 3.2, but nowadays you can get a nice S3 Esprit Turbo for $20k cheaper than a comparable Carrera. Also, on a Retro Review posted in the past John mentioned a review of the 86-87 BMW L7. Could you please share that segment if the footage still exists?
In the US you'll see older 911's from time to time, although it's rare. But in my entire life I don't think I've ever seen an Esprit, not on the road, not even for sale. Not sure how many came to the US, but it must not have been that many.
These are great cars. No, they're not fast by today's standards of 400-600 hp production cars. Yes, the oversteer can be a handful. Their suspension is basic, with torsion bars instead of coil springs. But they are hugely rewarding to drive at any speed and especially at track speeds.This G50 model, generally '87 through half of '89, is a little heavier than its predecessors, but it has a stronger, better shifting hydraulic clutch and G50 transmission. I have owned an '88 Carrera for nearly 20 years. Very reliable too.
It's funny everything that they say that's negative about this 911 in the review is what makes it so valuable now. I guess that is just the price of nostalgia and wearing rose colored glasses.
I'm trying to think of a 25th anniversary sports car for today which would be from 1993. The only continuously produced sports car from around that time that I can think of is the Dodge Viper (1992). NSX came a little earlier and went out of production for a decade or so.
This is what I think of when I think Porsche 911... I can still see the guy at the beginning of Test Drive, driving one onto the screen, giving a wink at you, then rolling up his window and taking off. That's what I think of when I think of Porsche, some smug guy winking at young boys trying to convince them to get into the car.
I know it's probably just me but I miss the simplicity and minimalism of the dash board, gauges and steering wheel from back then even though it's similar to Audi/Volkswagen back then.
I am a fan of classic cars and own several Studebakers, 1977 Wagoneer, and 1992 Subaru SVX. Old Porsche are a blast and very basic mechanically. Too basic to have justified the price tag when new. Modern ones are packed with technology and might lack the rawness of the older ones, but they don't try to kill you like with the unpredictable handling of the old ones. That alone makes the modern ones "better" and justifies the price premium IMO.
Man this car was ugly back then. I’m assuming all of you saying this car looks good are older folks that have some nostalgia about it or something. Also, we’ve come a long way, we now have have cars that cost $30k that can outperform this Porsche and lets not even talk about technology and safety. Great video!!
You will never see a modern car with only 214 HP do 0-60 in 5.7 seconds, or the quarter-mile in less than 15 seconds. These things were *light* in addition to being small. Compare that with a modern Porsche 911 -- the new ones are bloated by comparison.
I know, right?! There was a time in the early '90s when you couldn't *give away* an early '70s 911, and now they're selling for six figures when they're in great condition, or high 5 figures when they're mediocre.
This to me is the most aesthetically pleasing 911, with no ridiculous wings or spoilers, and no unnecessary bulges.
sure thing!
That’s the most wonderful thing about Porsche there’s a flavour for everyone
pro trick: you can watch series at flixzone. I've been using it for watching loads of movies these days.
Just some hips is kinda nice though, don't ya think?..lol
Thats why i like the 992 GT3 Touring.
That car is like a rolex, timeless.
Not a good quality for a watch.
Looks like a vw beatle lol i wonder if they were as unreliable and expensive to
Maintain as the current ones
@@Freimopp777 according to who? If they had a bad rap they wouldn’t sell for the past 55 years .
@@Freimopp777 but much more reliable and has the engine in the right sport
Lol. They way i see it their are both icons except one is unreliable pos, the new ones at least and the other is everymans sport cars, now if u want to compare apples to apples then the corvette is a much better performing
Car
Than a 911 at a fraction of the price
Once again more
Reliable.
@@Freimopp777 oh jd power huh u mean the PR firms? Those are the same
Ones that rank kia and hyundai on top of honda and toyota yet have shitty depreciation lol bro seriously, if u buy a porsche is cuz ur shit is too small or u want to flaunt it. Also most
Porsche i seen dont make it over 100k there was a time when i wanted one untill i found how crappy their reliability is i said no thanx,
U go on used market and lots of corvettes over 100k ans running just fine why? Reliability also that “only maintenance bs u say about porsche cost a fortune, i truly hate cara that are over priced and unreliable and german take the cake on that. Do u even own a porsche??
I bought my '88 as a low milage used car in 1990 and still have it! Great car, lots of good memories associated with it. By the way, the only thing that has ever broken was the passenger side power window motor and that happened back in '93 or so.
Cool, what did you pay for it in 1990?
Could of been a defective motor, these cars with proper maintenance can and will last.
There’s a car repair shop literally facing my house and I can see, hear and smell one of those (a dark metallic green one) every single day for the past 2 months, it’s so nice.
Call me stupid, but if Porsche released this car again, just as it was, I'd buy one. Something about it, idk. It's just timeless.
Passthedutch 9890 A shame the closest we have around are the Singer RestoMods, but those cost a fortune and aren't a fair comparison
Like a Figaro a retro Porsche would sell quicker than they could imagine
I never liked them growing up. I found later I was just ignorant.
Yeah I think the 80's 911 is one of the coolest looking cars ever made. Performance is actually pretty impressive for 214 hp. O-60 in 5.7 is pretty damn quick
@@MasterMalrubius
I thought the same when I was 19. I was very very lucky to buy a 1987 Guards red 5 years ago. Mint condition. I don't not sleep well everytime the night before I take it out. Honeymoon has end. Try to grab 1. You only live once.
$50,865 in '88 comes to $107,537 in 2017 dollars. Yup, they're priced exactly the same today when adjusted for inflation.
The dollar took a dive in the late 80's. I bought my 85 used in 88. Its sticker for a well-optioned car in 85 was $36,500. Those 3 yrs were not kind to the dollar.
Ahhh yes. The 1980's booming Regan economy conundrum. It was both good and bad.
@Ian Clancy So you could say it's a bargain by sports car standards! :-P
However, the initial price of $5000 in 1965 would be $40,000 in today's money (or 18,500 1988 dollars)
Ian Clancy : and in most cases have been good investments...
I was born in 1988, and the 911 has always been a icon of a car for me
Sure, Countach & Testarossa were wonderful to look at, but I'm still not sure to drive a Lambo or Ferrari daily
This year I got my first Porsche ever, a Carmine red 911 Carrera 4S 2020 with the aero kit
So thanks for sharing!
I’d rather have this exact car than ANY modern Porsche, including the GT3/GT2 variants. They have just gotten so big, heavy and complex. I want this car! I always have. To me, this is the ideal sports car in every way, from its looks, performance, quirky traits, to its great reliability. Unfortunately, even high mileage examples cost about as much now as the one tested in this video! I really screwed up and missed some great opportunities to buy one of these fantastic cars over the years at very reasonable prices...that time has now passed forever I’m afraid.
Yup, ditto. And if you have one, now three years after your comment, they are 6 figures making insurance and other operating costs higher, not to mention worrying about more all resulting in a little less enjoyment. Just a little less.
I just love my 86 cab. The sound is awesome and such an experience. Good in the snow too. That heater he bummed on works great and mine has dual controls. The car is so much fun! Franny
Heidi and Franny's Garage : we enjoy your channel too Franny! Love your 356
"Newton told us that all moving objects tend to resist a change in direction. But he never felt the feedback you get from the frontwheels of a 911"
These era 911 was good looking but it was all but a good handling car, it was a coffin on wheels
@@gorgeusjamesNot true at all. Handling is excellent across the board. Modern tires have come a long way since the 1980's.
Someone finally gives him all the guages he's always asking for, and he's STILL not satisfied!
Druck Press
Back when Porsche built cars for sport, and not gussied up grocery getters.
It took a real driver to keep the front wheels of one of these, out front. It's a tough learning curve, but well worth the lesson.
Roooight..... I have never driven one anywhere near the limit. I want to learn it and I believe I will.
tiny b
Grocery getters is where the $$$ is.
You dont bolster the bottom line with smiles !!!
And not just for the rich,even the broken
tiny b you know Porsche still has tons of driver-focused models in its current line-up, they simply understand that no one is going to pay 6-figures for 80s-era sports car ergonomics unless it’s something super niche like an Ariel Atom
Hard to believe the 993 was criticised when it came out for dialling out that particular character in the handling. Yet I distinctly remember the front end of a 997 S I was piloting going very light at 140mph on a slight bend so it was still there up until recently in 911 range. It scared the sh*t out of me in all honesty!
Timeless iconic looks, bullet proof motor, phenomenal cornering with direct feeling of the road makes it one of the finest classics if not the finest ever built...
marcia menage a timeless classic.
@From the Futon ???
The key on the left was for a good reason. Back in the day of racing where the drivers would run to the cars, start them and take off, turn key with left hand, shift with the right, shave off even a couple seconds.
Just to clarify, the silver '88 in this video is actually a 1988 Commemorative Edition (CE) in Diamond Blue (with Ferry Porsche signatures on the seats) that commemorates the 250,000 911 made, not an anniversary edition. The silver anniversary edition was release in 1989 to celebrate the 25th anniversary. A common error made on the internet. I have an '88 CE the same as in this video.
Fully restoring an 87 in Guards Red that I bought as a roller 6months ago. Just got a full drivetrain from an 89. Excited to get it on a track! I'm using the whale tail as wall art and going with a flat rear deck, but keeping the front spoiler. Great to see these old reviews
The design never gets old.
love the true "air cooled" models...
Motorweeks drivers sure had a lot more skill driving on track back then than they do today
Great honest review. I vaguely remember this one for the silver anniversary model. Any 911 is so entertaining to drive. The rear end just digs in when accelerating out of turns.
Another awesome RETRO REVIEW
Love the vintage videos. Always baffled by the power creep: A bit over 200hp in a dedicated sports car seems not much today but that was still plenty back in the day when everything above 100hp was "powerful". Haha.
My 85 911 weighs only 2750 lbs. The power creep over time closely follows vehicles' increased weight. Low weight, good handling and excellent brakes make a modestly-powered car quick.
Can't believe the reviewer did not mention that the left side ignition is a LeMans standing-start relic. And in 30 yrs of ownership, I've never said "wish it had ABS."
They actually feel much quicker than the numbers suggest. Old sports cars don't feel slow, especially on a curvy road where they belong.
This is my favourite car... love you guys
One of my favorite toy car as a kid!!!
I've owned my 88 since new and she's currently getting mechanical refreshing. She's thirty-two so new fuel lines, brake lines, valve adjustment, new suspension bushings, tires...
My dad had a 1987 Targa and we managed to pack five people into the car. I was at least 6' tall at the time and I sat behind my 5'2" stepmother and little brother. But, this was back in the '80s when there were things like kids sitting on laps instead of being in seats.
I remember wanting one. Automobile magazine made it sound very suitable. Girlfriend at TU had one. I figured out the 944 or 928 would have been more suitable for me.
I'm doing a restoration of a 1989 3.2 coupe now. I drove the car a bit before I tore it down because I wanted to feel the driving dynamics and see if if it would be worth the blood, sweat, tears, expense, and time it would take to do the work. It is and so much more. With no power steering and the weight at the very rear they literally feel like a go kart. And then after you're done driving you get to look back and see the iconic silhouette. Prices are high now and climbing so if you have the juice to buy one, make sure there's some left unsqueezed for the stuff you'll need and then want to do to it. It's worth it.
I would love to get one of these. They might not be super fast but are great fun. Sadly the pricing are just crazzzzzy.
great review. owned a 1977 911s . really enjoyed the car . wish I had bought a 1988 Carrera when I had the chance.
The shadow of the substantial derrick-like roof mounted camera mount to capture the rear end swinging around really shows the age of the filming technology of the day.
This car is a piece of art.
1989 Porsche 930 Turbo 3.3L is the greatest achievement from the German automaker. 🇩🇪
what a car. this was a beast back then
Mine had issues with the clutch, heater fans, A/C, window seals, overheating in traffic, and the passenger door latch broke while going around a curve. But every day I drove it was like the first day. Unfortunately, my (financial) circumstances forced me to sell it in 2012. I miss it EVERY day. It was awesome to see this, but it broke my heart a little.
This car is STILL a timeless classic.
33 years later and it still oozes desirability.
That car is all I want for Xmas.
Saw one in the wild, beautiful little cars
I've got a 1985 Carrera runs beautiful with no problems for 13+ year's 👍🇩🇪😂
You sir you’re the only ever person owning a reliable German car then lol
It has all the gauges!
Ben R has an oil temperature gauge as well.
That 25th Anniversary model is a keeper.
Any 911 is a keeper ;)
I want this exact model but in brown. What a car!
I have an '88 911. One virtue of this car that wasn't fully apparent at the time was its reliability. Mine has been more reliable than a Toyota. Excellent build quality.
I had an ‘89 Targa. Fantastic car!
Consider the chassis was already 25 year-old back then, it was an achievement.
It's older than that, after all Hitler designed the Beetle, and this is just a Beetle at heart.
@@rodmunch69 The only two things the 901/911 chassis has in common with the beetle is the rear engine layout and that is uses torsion bars. Absolutely nothing else in the actual design is even close.
@@3.2Carrera sooo... exactly what I said, this is a Beetle at heart. Anywho, go apologize for Hitler somewhere else you National Socialist.
$50,865 in 1988 is the same as $108,311 today. A brand-new 911 Carrera 2 today, equipped as sparsely as the one in the review, would run you no more than, what, $80K? $85K? So they’ve gotten cheaper over the years. Makes you wonder what they’re *not* doing today that they *did* do back then... Or if it’s just the general cost of manufacturing that has decreased because manufacturing technology has gotten so much better in the past 30 years.
I think some products just pace inflation measures different than others. Many cars have fared similar, they are cheaper now, maybe as tech becomes cheaper.
I wish I could buy housing in my area at 1989 prices adjusted for inflation.
w111w126 technology has gotten much cheaper
This is how technology progresses. It gets cheaper over time.
During the 90s during the boxters development Porsche hired Toyota to help them streamline their production process and Toyota reduced the cost of assembling a 911 by 50%. The Toyota Production System is used in most large assembly factories nowadays.
A BMW 535is cost what, $35K back then.... a five series is now $55..... not bad I guess.
yeah peter im gonna have to ask you to show up to work on saturday that'd be great
NotBen101 License plate says “My Porsche”
Oh, I almost forgot... I’m going need you to come in on Sunday too. Thanks...
Awesome video, great job motor week!! Gorgeous Porsche!!
Do you have an Review for a Oldsmobile Cutlass Calais
my car!
My car too!
Tedward Yours is the 88? So it has the G50. I can't imagine what he would have thought of my 86 915 box ;) he was a bit harsh on the interior. 50G? Daymnn ...
G50 in mine! My friend has the 86 with the 915. Rewarding to use but takes patience and accuracy!
Lucky bastards
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!! ONE OF MY FAVORITES!!!! THANKS FOR SHARING!!!!
I would take one of these classic 911s over one of today's over-engineered beasts any day. They have a coolness quotient that today's 911 lack.
I'd prefer one as old as 1970ish.
You do that. Oh right, you can't have either since you're on foodstamps.
@@rodmunch69 ...as you reply from your double-wide.
@@paulk9985 actually I own a big house in a very nice gated community and I got a Corvette and a BMW in the garage. Now I grew up poor, had to live in a trailer, but I used that experience to better myself - not just sit around on welfare talking about how awful everything new is because I'm too poor to afford it.
@@rodmunch69 Well, you sure told me. I stand corrected. You certainly did accomplish all the important tangibles in life that we mere mortals could only dream to achieve. I am certainly very impressed now... along with all of the other people on TH-cam who read your monumental achievements. You now have one more feather to add to your cap - buying expensive items to impress others. And we all now know of the deficiency between your legs.
The best Porsche's have natural selection built in.
This particular model in good original condition is still worth the selling price today. What if I told you buy a new car and 30 years later you can come get your money back. Not lose a penny except with factoring inflation but who cares. What a hell of a deal. Hence why the get richer because high end cars and real estate never lose value.
Thank you so much for posting.
People think that Porsche is lazy for never changing the design.
From an engineering stand point it's actually harder to maintain the 911s design and world dominance over all these years and and still retain the fact that the engine is in the wrong place.
Bet many of your viewers are too young to remember the Subaru Justy
My first car was a used Justy in 93. It was the 'Chaser' model so FWD. Terrible car, broke down a lot.
Son of Tamriel Nice. If I’m not mistaken, the Justy was one of the first new cars to get a CVT transmission.
What the Hell is a "Justy?" Gay porn star?😂
I remember in the 1980's the freeways were only 55 mph to save gas and clean the air .... moving the speed limit to 65mph felt like the starship enterprise !
Given the comparison with the Esprit, it bears noting how differently the values of the two cars have tracked over the years. The Esprit S3 may have started out $20k more expensive than a Carrera 3.2, but nowadays you can get a nice S3 Esprit Turbo for $20k cheaper than a comparable Carrera.
Also, on a Retro Review posted in the past John mentioned a review of the 86-87 BMW L7. Could you please share that segment if the footage still exists?
In the US you'll see older 911's from time to time, although it's rare. But in my entire life I don't think I've ever seen an Esprit, not on the road, not even for sale. Not sure how many came to the US, but it must not have been that many.
Almost 200,000 G Body 911s ‘74-‘89 and just over 10,000 Esprits ‘76-‘04.
These are small cars but actually can accommodate large people pretty comfortably.
The car is amazing even today.
I wondered how many doctors and lawyers this car killed on country roads.
Thanks again.
Back when sports cars were REAL sports cars.
best car ever made
These are great cars. No, they're not fast by today's standards of 400-600 hp production cars. Yes, the oversteer can be a handful. Their suspension is basic, with torsion bars instead of coil springs. But they are hugely rewarding to drive at any speed and especially at track speeds.This G50 model, generally '87 through half of '89, is a little heavier than its predecessors, but it has a stronger, better shifting hydraulic clutch and G50 transmission. I have owned an '88 Carrera for nearly 20 years. Very reliable too.
All time favorite car, year,,colour, everything is perfect! I have driven them, great car. Too bad, they are priced beyond reach...
It's funny everything that they say that's negative about this 911 in the review is what makes it so valuable now. I guess that is just the price of nostalgia and wearing rose colored glasses.
When you see one nowadays, they seem so small.
I agree. Whenever I see a Porsche 911 they look so small as a Mazda MX-5 Miata.
I'm trying to think of a 25th anniversary sports car for today which would be from 1993. The only continuously produced sports car from around that time that I can think of is the Dodge Viper (1992). NSX came a little earlier and went out of production for a decade or so.
lol the base comes with 15 inch wheels
oh what simpler times
a classic car that still looks good.
This is what I think of when I think Porsche 911... I can still see the guy at the beginning of Test Drive, driving one onto the screen, giving a wink at you, then rolling up his window and taking off. That's what I think of when I think of Porsche, some smug guy winking at young boys trying to convince them to get into the car.
The car is new in this video but looks like it’s been driven for 5 years
my life car. As long as I am well, I will never sell.
I know it's probably just me but I miss the simplicity and minimalism of the dash board, gauges and steering wheel from back then even though it's similar to Audi/Volkswagen back then.
Surprisingly cheap mantainance costs and incredibile mpg ratio.
A true day driver I still miss.
Why I love the the 911 and the 356
THANKS JOHN!
Wow! From $50,000 in 1988 to $ 91,100 in 2017!
Adjusted for inflation, it's about the same.
Its actually cheaper now, you can google inflation calculator
If few brands brought back retro designs, it'd be a hit.
I am a fan of classic cars and own several Studebakers, 1977 Wagoneer, and 1992 Subaru SVX. Old Porsche are a blast and very basic mechanically. Too basic to have justified the price tag when new. Modern ones are packed with technology and might lack the rawness of the older ones, but they don't try to kill you like with the unpredictable handling of the old ones. That alone makes the modern ones "better" and justifies the price premium IMO.
The handling is completely preditable for a experienced, predictable 911 driver. Few cars are more honest.
What would happen if you shifted into reverse at speed?
Porsche. For the money, the best cars in the world. My Cayman S is a blast to drive each and every time I get behind the wheel.
Envious commentor is envious.
this in white please
last of the great porsches.
No ABS is a good thing.
For how you should be driving this car I agree!
No
@@pedroakira7987 I'll admit modern abs is pretty dam good but it's more fun without it.
So how much does this 1988 model go for today?
Yep, sold. I'd buy in a second.
I need this car in my life
Look man don't put too much pressure on that driver side mirror! lol
I’d rather have an 89 corvette . Just my taste. But that is a beautiful car
My exact car!! So excited to see this! Dark Blue but the only difference is mine has the whale tail spoiler! Come see it on my channel!
My 25 anniversary edition 😍
My first brand new Porsche was an 88 911 - cost me $50 thousand. I thought that was a lot.
Man this car was ugly back then. I’m assuming all of you saying this car looks good are older folks that have some nostalgia about it or something. Also, we’ve come a long way, we now have have cars that cost $30k that can outperform this Porsche and lets not even talk about technology and safety. Great video!!
I sold my 87 cab yesterday :(
terrible thing to do mate
You will never see a modern car with only 214 HP do 0-60 in 5.7 seconds, or the quarter-mile in less than 15 seconds. These things were *light* in addition to being small. Compare that with a modern Porsche 911 -- the new ones are bloated by comparison.
wish i could have bought one before they got hideously expensive
I'm México, they're selling around $489,000 Mexican pesos, which are $25,678 dollars, it's cheap for the moment
I know, right?! There was a time in the early '90s when you couldn't *give away* an early '70s 911, and now they're selling for six figures when they're in great condition, or high 5 figures when they're mediocre.
Great 911!