IK Multimedia Hammond B-3X Virtual Tonewheel Organ Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video we dive into the latest virtual instrument from IK Multimedia; the B-3X which is an amazing recreation of the classic tonewheel organs that have influenced generations of musicians. The B-3X is the first "authorized" tonewheel organ as IK Multimedia partnered with the Hammond / Suzuki Organ company gaining unprecedented access to the virtual DNA of these beautiful, timeless instruments.
There is no way to cover everything in a single video so I invite you to comment below with any questions you might have about the B-3X and as always thanks so much for watching!
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- INDEX -
00:00:00 TEASER
00:00:37 INTRO
00:01:11 INTERFACE OVERVIEW
00:01:53 EXTERNAL CONTROLLERS
00:02:22 INVERTED KEYS PRESETS
00:03:00 B-3X PARAMETER SECTION OVERVIEW
00:04:13 CHECKING OUT SOME PRESETS
00:04:55 LOOKING AT STOMP EFFECTS
00:06:12 A WORD ON AUTOMATION
00:06:58 PLAYING MORE PRESETS
00:08:04 SIGNAL CHAIN | CABINET | POST EFFECTS
00:10:02 CABINET SECTION DETAIL
00:10:37 POST EFFECTS
00:10:56 CABINET SELECTIONS
00:11:47 LIFE IN THE LESLIE
00:12:27 CABINET MODEL SETTINGS
00:14:32 RUNNING THROUGH MORE PRESETS
00:17:20 SETTINGS
00:18:20 ADVANCED SETTINGS
00:20:46 MORE PRESETS
00:23:25 CLOSING
00:24:14 LET'S GO TO CHURCH! - เพลง
Glad you’re enjoying playing by yourself. A B3 musician, this system sound 4¢ higher than a Hammond tonewheel. On stage you can’t match instruments like a Hammond. But its infinite fun in your basement with hauling a B3 down there
Right off the bat, there is absolutely nothing like the feeling of sitting behind one of these powerful beasts. I have so many memories of playing the real thing. Nothing compares to the physicality of having both manuals, and that crazy full pedalboard under your feet, hearing the tone wheels spinning, and almost getting your hair blown back by the frenetic spinning of the Leslies!
These virtual emulations allow us to relive a fraction of that experience, and an iPad weighs laughably less than one of those behemoths.
Thanks so much for watching.
I've been in love with the B3 for years now but not enough to want to buy one. Who knew I'd end up with a VIRTUAL one lol? I LOVE this thing. Using a Hammond XK3 as the contoller. Using the XK3 as the controller had lots of bugs when the first version of B3x was released and I worked with IKMultimedia for over a month to get it to work and that's when they released the second version. SO cool! Much thanks to IKMultimedia for all the work on it and letting me be of assistance in getting the XK3 working FULLY with this software.
It’s better than the XK3? How does it hold up against the XK5? Amazing what this VST can do!
Wow, that VST sounds incredible! IK really puts out some great products. Good review!
Great review, loved the end Gospel covered lead B3 playing
👍 Simeon - hope you had a great Christmas, and really looking forward to your next demo reviews in 2020!! 🎅🖐🍻
Wow, thankyou for the review. Monster playing!!!
My pleasure, thanks so much for watching and sorry for the late response, I really appreciate the support.
Wow cool review thank you. What an in-depth plugin!
This is really impressive. Wow!
The real controller for this would be bass pedals, and a 2 manual (dual stacked keyboard) because you really need the lower manual too to access the 3 parts. Pedal, Great manual (lower manual) and the Swell (upper manual). You play the mellow accompaniment on the lower manual and the solo lead on the upper manual with the pedals for bass. A Hammond SKX or XK-5 neither cheap, could midi to this plug in and control it. Of course that raises the price substantially but real organists would want this. Studio tracking musicians could track the pedals, lower and upper manuals to get the same effect for recording. But as a performer I'd want an organ controller for this plug in after testing it today. It sounds amazing and the Leslie sim is the best out there.
Agree 100%. I think they really did an amazing job with this one. Thanks so much for watching and for the kind support.
Thanks, Mr Simeon Amburgey
Sir you are anointed of the Holy Ghost. Thank for that last song. Loved it!
To God be all the glory! Well if the West Angeles Church Of God In Christ don’t get you moving, wellll 😎
Thanks so much for watching and the encouragement!
Great review, thank you!
My pleasure. I love the sound of the B3x. Thanks for watching. Joyfully!🎹
@@PraiseTracks Yeah seems to be great, but...your playing is really more than amazing, congrats!!
Awesome review and you can hang with some of the best Gospel Hammond players as well.
I love when you just can play and get these amazing instruments that just take you back somehow. Thanks so much for watching and your kind comments!
Fun! Great review! Yep, used this on a recent production, sounded great! My only wish is to be able to adjust the treble and woofer Leslie ramp times individuallly. Maybe in an update. It also uses lots of CPU! But it sounds like a B3 and a Leslie to me, and I love all the customization! Great playing at the end! 👍
Thanks for watching! I missed covering it (there is so much packed into this instrument) but there is a setting to modify the acceleration/deceleration of the rotor and drum. I was using version 1.01 in the video which optimized some things. I really have been enjoying working with the B-3X as you can tell 😎
Simeon Amburgey Yes, I know about those controls, but you still can’t control the upper and lower acceleration/deceleration separately.
On my leslie 122, the lower rotor takes a good 7 seconds to speed up and slow down, while the upper is almost instantaneously ramped to the new speed. Wish I could make this happen.
Otherwise, it’s pretty spot on!
I just wish one could do a Memphis Stop, where the bass stops rotating, only the horns rotate
The GSI VB3 II has such a feature. This is something that many users of the B-3X have requested, so that might be something they are working on. Thanks so much for watching.
Hey Sir 😃 I really enjoyed this video! I just purchased this app for my Mac 💻 and wanted to use it in church but can’t seem to figure out how to use 2 keyboards 😬 do you mind making a tutorial on how to setup your keyboards with this app ?
Lordy Lordy Lordy!!!
Bless My Soul In Gsus' Name!!!
🙏🔥💓🔥🙏
Yep, we had a little church up in here ;^) So glad you are enjoying the channel. All be best.
You’re so good! Player and teacher! I just purchased bx3 iPad version. Want to purchase D9X controller. Will it require a lot of work to program or almost plug in ready. I know I will use hub. Just curious about programming. Thank you for your help.
It should be ready to go out of the box. I think there are a couple of assignments that needed tweaking but should be fairly easy to do under the hood of the B-3x. Having the hands-on control is a great experience. The iPad version is great because of the touch but the physical drawbars and buttons take it even further. Thanks for watching and the kind words. Keep me posted. Joyfully.
Channeling some Deep Purple
You can automate the Wah to midi pedal and switch (latch engage) on a controller. I use (on my controller)
Wah ON-CC54...Pedal Assignment CC55 and this should translate to work in your DAW. I haven't found a way to assign the Reverb pedal/distortion pedal or Reverb FX volume to midi note yet,
if you know of way please share
Thanks for that, I will have to give that a try, so the CCs must be hard wired. I will let you know if I discover anything new.
Are there only presets or can you set your own? Will this VST be Ableton friendly? Is installation user friendly?
I really like this instrument!! I noticed you're using real drawbars to control the virtual ones. Currently I use a Nektar Impact LX, & I really can't stand my drawbars feeling like faders on a mixer - which is what's on the Nektar. What module are you using to control the drawbars?
I use the D9x from GSI who also is the developer behind the VB3 virtual tone wheel organ. It has a great feel and Guido actually sent me the first prototype. Here is a short video.
GMLAB D9X Open Source Drawbar MIDI Controller - Hands On First Look
th-cam.com/video/KjxQKpb58DE/w-d-xo.html
Another interesting and very helpful video Simon--and rousing, lovely, virtuoso playing, always a pleasure. I wanted to ask if you thought the B-3X was a more persuasive emulation of the B3 than the VB3-II. Also whether you find it's a heavier load on the CPU than VB3-II. I don't wanna put you on the spot, just want the benefit of your experience and ears to get an informed opinion. Thanks, Merry Christmas!
Getting Stuff Done Right , well the B-3x has the advantage of being the only virtual tone-wheel organ created in partnership with Hammond/Suzuki. My impression is that IK used this to help them really get a look deep inside these mammoth musical instruments through having access to schematics, etc.. The sound to me really sounds nice and rich.
The VB-3II is nice and light on the CPU but I do not remember running into any CPU load issues that stood our during my review.
I am always thinking about doing A/B testing videos but it is hard to nail down exactly why o e VST sounds so different from the other.
One thing I appreciate IK Multimedia doing is allowing you to have somewhat of a trial version you can download and experience yourself before purchasing.
I hope that helps?
Thanks again for always being such an encourager and for watching!
Another aspect that sets the B-3x apart is the integration of the IK Leslie simulation which to me has sort of an “air” about it that just adds something very special and alive to the sound.
The Leslie VST effect works great as well but getting MIDI control to work with other instruments can get interesting.
Thank you Simon, very helpful info, much appreciated. Based on your feedback I wish now that I had done what I almost did, which was get it for the introductory price. I guess I felt a certain loyalty to the VB3-II, felt like I still had a lot to learn exploring that instrument before I would even know what I might be I missing, if anything. My training is as a classical pianist, so this is all new, wonderful territory for me, and I feel fortunate that by sheer chance I've run into your channel and get to benefit from your guidance and playing. I was just listening to a B3 performance that I absolutely love from John Novello and his trio Niacin "I Miss You Like I Miss the Sun." The breadth of what can be expressed on a B3 is just astonishing. Thanks again for the feedback Simon, take care. m.th-cam.com/video/eDEnl90uA7w/w-d-xo.html
hello thanks for helping with your knowledge, i wanted to tell you that i have a Korg Kronos 88 and i bought the software hammond B3x. my problem is that i dont know how to make the corresponding connections and if you knew how to do it or if you could recommended a tutorial that explains step by step how to make the connection, thank you very much
Boris, just a couple of questions. Do you have an audio/midi interface for your computer?
Are you wanting to use B-3x as a standalone or inside a DAW host?
You would also need to look into the KRONOS documentation to see how you could create a preset or multi that would allow you to use the slider controls to work with the drawbars.
The KRONOS is a powerful workstation and I’m sure once you get a few of the basics locked in, there will be a lot of possibilities open up for you.
Thanks for watching and keep me posted. Joyfully!
How do you connect the small midi keyboard for the bass pedals? Can any midi keyboard give you access to the bass pedals? Thanks
He probably is just assigning that keyboard to midi channel 3. My guess is the upper and lower manuals are on channels 1 and 2 respectively.
@@GospelMusic4Life Ok thank you
Preciso que seja feita a tradução para o português. Por favor
Can you do a bass split on the same manual or do would I need a separate keyboard?
Brandon, I tried a few experiments yesterday and each manual is assigned a MIDI channel. You can use one keyboard to play splits and such, but you need to be able to assign key ranges. I am working on a short video that can illustrate this, but it was a lot of fun when I was able to get the bass in the left hand. ;^)
Stay tuned.
@@PraiseTracks thanks! I'll be waiting for that video!
Thanks for some really great organ reviews on GSI VB3-2 and the IK multimedia organ. Which one do you prefer playing the most?
Is one more cpu demanding than the other?
Mads, I really love what GSI has accomplished, Guido has been a pioneer in bringing the virtual organ to us. I need to pull VB3 back up as it has been a while. I do enjoy playing the B-3X, and I guess it could be the visual experience that helps to pull you in a little more. I will say that CPU can get a little up there every once in a while. I also love the Leslie emulations.
Another virtual drawbar organ is Blue which is also very nice, with each one having their own color and personality.
Thanks so much for watching.
@@PraiseTracks Hi again - thanks for getting back to me so quickly and for your qualified feedback. Very appreciated!
@@PraiseTracks I just put the two demo versions at a side by side test on my i7 10700 laptop. They both sound really great, I tend to prefer the B3-X leslie over VB3-2 but it is so close and, I get very inspired playing both. When I adjusted VB-3 leslie setting fast to slow it was almose identical.
Comparing the two ‘Whiter Shades of pale’ preset VB3 clearly wins with more personality when you eg. go to the second accord (b in the bass) - some high leakage sound shines through in VB3-2 and makes it very nice and alive!
But most important of all: VB3 uses about 2% cpu and B-3X about 36% in the task manager. B-3X is far more power (energy) hungry as well. So I have decided to go with VB3 since I need to have cpu room for other sounds in my Gig Performer rig (Keyscape, Ample Sound and more).
That is great to know, thanks for sharing your experience. Joyfully!🎹
What keyboard controller are you using? Is it weighted?
I currently use a Studiologic SL-880 which is a weighted 88 key controller. Of course a non-weighted would probably be faster when playing organ and synth virtual instruments but it works 😎
Thanks so much for watching.
West Angeles Church sings this but anyone else can LoL. Nice demo BTW
Warm Regards, Joshua Miller Knight
That is the track I was playing along with. I love West Angeles, we listen to them around the house all of the time, they are so amazing and uplifting.
Thanks so much for watching. All the best.
@@PraiseTracks I am an organ player myself and since the age of 3 God blessed me to play by ear
That is wonderful. Yes, The Holy Spirit starts with us early. I am so grateful for His goodness and grace in the gifts He has given. Bless you my friend and thanks so much for watching.
Thanks for the nice informative video. My question to you is:
Does this come as a CD package?
Hello Frank, I am so glad you enjoyed watching. The B3x is a fantastic tone wheel emulation, it has this "air" about that I really enjoy.
IK Multimedia products are managed with their download manager, so it is all handled online, so no physical installation medium is necessary. I hope that helps. Joyfully! 🎹
@@PraiseTracks Well, I've been using B4 for years, on stage, and if it needs to be reinstalled or if my laptop goes South, I'd like to have the actual disc. I leave the NI-B4 disc right in the laptop, which gets used for nothing else.
Oh yes, the B4 😎
So what you can do is to copy the install files to a removable USB Flash drive or you could burn it to a data CD for a backup.
@@PraiseTracks Oh...you can!
They don't seem to be as jealous of their software as NI. The B4 disc can't be copied.
Then that's great news.
Thanks
My pleasure. It is because they are authorized through your IK Multimedia account with a serial number. It is handled through the download manager. Let me know how things go.Joyfully! 🎹
How do I make my Yamaha MX61 synth control the B3 X software? I have the USB A - B plugged in and hooked up to my computer, but when I press a key on my synth, nothing happens on the software. Am I missing something?
Make sure that in the MIDI input in the B-3X is using the Yamaha USB MIDI as the input. Upper is ch1, Lower ch2, Pedals ch3. There is also some split options as well that lets you have Bass in left hand and Upper in the right hand. Thanks for watching. Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.
@@PraiseTracks Thanks for the quick response, but when I go into the B3X settings panel (where it says MIDI INPUT), the only option it gives me is 'ANY'. Shouldn't the Keyboard show up there?
Mitch, are you using your Yamaha with any other DAW? I am thinking there might need to be a MIDI to Host driver your Yamaha needs to communicate through the USB. ANY would listen for any attached MIDI devices. Also make sure the Yamaha is set to transmit MIDI TO Host, sometimes that has to be set in the MOTIF.
Check this link for the USB MIDI driver download.
usa.yamaha.com/products/music_production/synthesizers/mx_bk_bu/downloads.html
Mitch, just checking in to see how things were coming along.
I would like to be shown how to set this up on a home organ with two manuals and pedals.
Brian, what organ are you working with? If it has MIDI, if I remember correctly, the Upper Manual should transmit on Ch. 1, Lower Ch. 2 and Pedals Ch. 3.
@@PraiseTracks I have two organs with midi, a Yamaha EL70 and an Orla Ringway. I never seem to have much success adding midi to my organs. I normally end up giving myself a headache. It would be lovely to have the B3X but I am not certain I could get it to work. I have an old Hammond which I still use but it is not tonewheel. I had to scrap my tonewheel organ recently.
@@PraiseTracks how do you assign the pedals in the app? I haven’t been able to find them on the midi assignment
@@be1515, Pedals receive on MIDI channel 3. Look between PITCH and MIDI ASSIGNMENTS and you will see that you can assign the UPPER, LOWER, and PEDALS to their MIDI channels.
@@PraiseTracks what if the pedals are midi only and not usb?
I cannot open IK Hammond in Cubase 5. Somebody can help me?
The main thing that comes to mind is to make sure Cubase is pointing to the correct VST folder location where the B3x was installed. Also I think B3X is 64 bit and not sure if Cubase 5 supports 64 bit plugins. Not for sure, just trying to troubleshoot. Thanks so much for watching and if I find out anything additional I will let you know.
I use the iPad version, and somehow, I couldn’t set up the sliders on my M-Audio Axiom to control the drawbars. Mission impossible so far.
Hopefully I can get a copy of this to check out. Is there a control screen where is shows the assignments? You could send me a screen shot or two at praisetracks@gmail.com
Hi, Guido. I am also using an M-Audio Axiom (1st generation) for my upper manual. As you know, from some of my other posts, I have been sitting back a bit on making the plunge. I have to presume the iPad version has a MIDI Learn function. Did you send IK Multimedia an email? There are four 5 star reviews in the App Store. None of the four made any mention of issues with assigning MIDI controls. I hope you can get this rectified soon. Good luck.
Guido, I have just installed this on my iPad. I will do some tests and get back with you ASAP. From first looks this is amazing and should be a lot of fun.
Guido, OK so while there is MIDI control, there is not MIDI LEARN! So this is what you need to do to get this to work with the iPad version:
* Tap the Settings Icon (the "gear" in the upper right corner).
* Look under the MIDI CONTROLLERS section and you can see what MIDI controls are assignable.
* You can see that each control has a "CC" number assigned to it, this is the MIDI Continuous Controller number that controls that specific parameter.
* Tap into the CC number beside the parameter you want to assign.
* The important thing to remember here is that you need to know the CC Number for the control of the Axiom you want to assign. Leslie Speed is typically set to the Modulation Wheel which is CC1
* Looking at a picture of the Axiom it looks like it has a display where you can see what CC numbers are assigned to a specific Axiom control and quite possibly can change them on the Axiom to match the iPad B-3x CC settings.
* So another way is to find the control on your Axiom you want to assign and figure out the CC Number, then "tap" into the CC number on the iPad B-3x and "manually" input it there.
MIDI Learn is a much needed feature I think so hopefully they can do this in a future update.
I hope that helped some, please let me know if there is anything else I can assist you with.
BTW: the iPad version is crazy!!!!
Simeon Amburgey I find it very strange that IK didn’t include MIDI Learn on B-3X for iPad. I have SampleTank, iGrand, iLectric and Syntronik for iPad. All IK products. And all have MIDI Learn. Don’t understand why they would release B-3X without it. Hopefully, that will be in a future update.
This is putting my AcousticSamples B5 to shame.
Less talking...more playing..I just want to hear what it sounds like.
I do apologize, there is just so much I am trying to process at times. I am really trying to work on improving this in the future. I do hope you found the video helpful? Thanks for watching.