Well unfortunately there are pieces of shit that do that. But there also a lot of Situations where it’s a 2 way street of toxic behavior. It happened one time with my parents and it never happened again. Now I don’t think In the real world You should never give the benefit of the doubt, but they worked It out and it never happened again they been together for a long time and would Do anything for each other. So I do think there are rare situations where it is more nuanced. Keep In mind I’m talking about them just beating each other brutally.
You can tell he didnt even believe that, his eyes lit up as he saw the chance to go viral for saying something idiotic which 13 year old boys will perceive as 'alpha'
@@deadams8905 I watch some clips of them and from what I see most of them arent. The guy 2nd to the left, i think his name is Chad, said one time that he expects a virgin as his future wife but he isnt a virgin himself. But he didnt have sex the last few years to save himself for marriage so that counts for him apparently. In general they have so many double standards and for the most part they just invite stupid women to their podcasts so they can shit on them.
when you think about it that is kinda how an abusive person thinks about it, they usually think they're just having the appropriate reaction and the other person deserves their behavior, they don't think of themselves as bad people.
A summarization: 1. Divorce isn't a real thing 2. If a partner is being abused, they need to stay and endure violence 3. BUT...if the woman cheats, THEN divorce becomes a real thing, and then that's the only circumstance to leave. The fuck is going on?!?! Are these mfers from the year 1679?
Some people look to ancient philosophers like the stoics of Rome or great thinkers from past centuries like Kant or Nietzsche for wisdom on how life can be lived in a fulfilling way that benefits everyone. These guys read a biography of King Henry VIII to get their inspiration.
@@abiswxllow1934 The reason most men understand the gravity of these situations is by making it personal to them. Sad but at least it helps some of them to think and reflect.
I can my dad basically did treat me like that and it was so hard to even tell him. He was like well I was abused too. Like no he was very likely the instigator from what I can tell
is this why western kids are more disrespectful than kids in non western countries who are actually disciplined? In my country growing up I was hit a lot even more in school by teachers than at home and i turned out fine. We all did. I come to the west and see how disrespectful most young people are to elders and their parents
What?!?! A coke head would be so happy to finish a bag of coke so idk what comparison you're trying to make.... Edit she added the word recovering because it didn't make sense before so stop trying to explain it to me now
My girlfriend used to emotionally abuse me (i'm a man), i tried enduring it at first hoping it would pass. Eventually I ended up removing her from my life completely. Currently, I'm 4 years into an awesome relationship with the best girl ever. It works out so well because we are supportive, attentive and understanding to eachother. Don't endure, just move on.
Bro imagine building up the courage to finally tell someone your husband is beating tf outta you and you go tell your dad and he’s like “deal with it stop being so soft. He”ll stop eventually, it’s just a phase” 😭😭😭 some people just don’t need to have kids
zoomers should never have been born millineals should not have been allowed children without government tests and intervention. Millennials where the worst most degenerate unfit generation to ever exsit in society. Millennials have had no positive impact on the world at all. their children are basicly parasites who are futher destroying the world.
55 years ago this was a pretty average response if you want me to be blunt. Keeping the family together was important ABOVE people's happiness, that's unhealthy. Problem in today's society, people end a marriage over arguments (mind you we are just talking about arguing not anything physical because once its physical IMO THAT'S WHEN YOU LEAVE) and claim that is abuse, ignoring the trauma your kids will get from a broken home (if you don't have kids thou if your constantly arguing then you really didn't know each other IMO and never should have tied the knot).
@@strykrpinoy "It was normal in the past" is not a good justification for anything, really. Parents provide the model for relationships to their children. If that relationship is not healthy, even just at an emotional level, it will have lasting effects on the kids abilities for form their own healthy relationships. "Keeping it together for the kids" is a dated mentality for a reason, there isn't really any data that suggests its worthwhile.
As someone who has grown up in an abusive and dysfunctional home (I'm still only 15) I find it very disturbing how they say endure, I feel like that's something an abuser would say
from what I've heard, he IS an abuser lol. No surprise to anyone 🙄 off topic, I hope you're safe and doing well - I hope with everything that you get out of that situation, ive been there and i wouldnt wish it on anyone, especially not at 15. I give you all my luck! 🙏
My mom's ex pile drove her into the dirt fuckin driveway outside our house AFTER they had been broken up for over three weeks and he started an argument on their way home from their favorite bar. Full on picked her up and slammed her shoulders first into the ground. Dudes like your dad and my mom's ex should not be anywhere near other human beings.
a woman in my family has been on an abusive relationship for about 17 years. she hasn't divorced because of her children. her older kid grew up to be a total pos, and is very evident that the younger one, who i love very much, is going on the same path. it breaks my heart thinking what their lives would've been like if she had just divorced her. but she should just endure it, i guess.
don't be upset by it. They are either idiots or they are looking for attention. Regardless of what they actually think, the only reason it is getting attention is because its a stupid and ridiculous opinion
Depressing is not doing the will of God. Jesus has many times said to endure abusers. Once he said that whoever divorces one for any reason other than prostitution is a sin.
I can’t remember who said it but it was a cop talking about abuse, and i heard it while In an abusive relationship and it scared me so much I started telling my friend about the abuse. He said (paraphrasing) “ if they’re willing to verbally abuse you they are willing to physically abuse you. If they’re willing to physically abuse you they are willing to kill you” . Abuse escalates if it’s not addressed.
He literally called women who have endured trauma "nut bags." Then the sreenshots of him admitting to numerous counts of assault against various women surfaced. Soo basically he wants to abuse women and then call THEM nutbags for living through it.
They wouldn't even be happy with that. They are not happy people. They hate anything feminine, they believe they're superior to it. Putting women down is the only thing that will actually get them off.
I have 5 close female friends, and out of all of us, I am the only one that HASN'T been domestically abused. I also have 3 male friends that have been abused by their female partners. I know this is circumstantial evidence, but it is mind-blowing that these lads think it's as rare as they say.
@@ThePopeOfCats Something I've always thought that you would think is so fundamental is that there is never any good reason to be violent in everyday life. Not if someone makes fun of you, not if they look at you funny, not if your wife is annoying you, not if your kids are being little shits or a waiter spills your drink on you, not even if you get cheated on. There isn't one single argument justifying a resort to violence in that situation and yet some people think themselves better for it.
That's catholics for you, I could be misrembering what I heard but from what I understand catholics dont divorce, they just say that it wasn't a real marriage in the first place, or that could be jews im not sure
I mean if the man has to pay alimony to the woman then he is still providing for her which he shouldn't because the marriage is over she is no longer his woman to provide for, but states make the man do it. Men should not have to take care of their ex spouse if you want to walk away then don't make me pay for your life anymore. So for some men divorce doesn't exist other than you don't have a romantic side, but she still be taking your money
"abuse is rare" 12 seconds later, essentially, "If you're being abused, it's not special. Endure and don't be a quitter. You'd have to be a pretty special person to be worthy of not being abused" And "I knew lots of people in abusive households...""
As someone who went through seeing their mom get divorced, cheated on, and abused, the abusive part was easily the worst and seeing her divorce him was the greatest.
SAME. My dad would go on these “divorce brings nothing good” rants but wouldn’t put any energy into changing 💀 I haven’t seen him in almost a year but I finally no longer fear he’ll kill us in our sleep.
Do you know what happens when you endure an abusive relationship? You get put in a suitcase still alive telling your significant other to please let you out while they mock you from the outside, go upstairs and go to bed while you sit there and suffocate to death.
My husband was extensively abused by his ex. She would stop him from sleeping, hit him, force him to watch her send her nudes to other people, and force herself on him. She would hit their children and threaten him that she would hurt them if he didnt do what she wanted. She isolated him by spreading lies to his family and friends and would threaten him by saying she would make false statements to the police. She was aided by his military leadership who told him he needed to "man up" and work it out. This lasted for years until his mother saw the abuse first hand and he was able to divorce her. It was an extremely messy divorce and he and his children experienced a lot of things they shouldn't have dealt with and it all came down to people not believing a man can be abused and that you should always try to stay with your partner. That mentality is dangerous and outright wrong.
I hope your hubby is doing okay. Terribly sorry he went through that. I know I'm some random dick online, but tell him that this anon thinks he's one of the strongest men ever to come out of that. The scars left on his heart are real, and it's totally okay that he works through that trauma and heals however he needs to and for as long as he needs to. Also I hope his bitch ex got locked up, though I sadly doubt it.
But the main difference is, in the case of the abuse victim, leaving the situation is actually on the table as an option. Although even if they do leave, the trauma can indeed be permanent.
now lets not forget how RARE this case is, so really yes of course the kid should just get the shit kicked out of him because he's a rare special case and how dare he think his problems matter, what if the parent kills themselves because the kid left, its all about ENDURANCE. what a fucked up argument, imagine pointing out how rare a scenario is before making the scenario even more rare to justify there points ( in reference to the part where he mentioned how the abuser is probably drunk when he abuses and that makes it ok somehow (which I also don't follow). not all abusers are drunk so therefore he only went and narrowed down the, what the claim, rare scenario in the first place.
Do these guys not realise that most abuse victims DO endure for MANY years and NOTHING changes. Also when they do endure and later ask for help they’re told they’re at fault for not leaving sooner.. which one is it.
You are all misinformed as to what the podcast is all about it’s about men who want traditional relationships and the women on the podcast are feminists and Charlie just so happened to forget to put that part in.
as someone whos witnessed both physical and emotional abuse, as well as a divorce from my parents, i promise the divorce was the best thing that could have ever happened for all of us.
the thing is, all it takes to be an "abuse victim" these days is just saying you were abused cause you got yelled at one time. Its a joke and the amount of dummies crying abuse but didnt actually go through it are just making it worse for the real victims. Disgusting.
Those girls did such a good job of asking questions to let the guys show everyone how stupid and horrible they are. Every follow up question they just dug a deeper and deeper hole for themselves and the girls barely needed to add anything. Impressive
There is a saying about giving enough rope... Looks like the hosts followed through on it flawlessly. What an absolute clown, but that's too nice, it will be a good day when they get taken down for being outed as abusers themselves.
Hold on there, they might have messed up on this question, as in, there ain’t no way you gotta endure physical abuse, however, any challenges in a marriage, yes, you gotta endure those, but from I gather, they usually invite OF hoes to clown on.
@@Owlmare No one has to endure anything...Not even when it comes to marriage. That is up to everyone's personal preference whether they want to endure the situation at hand or not. To say "any challenges in a marriage, you gotta endure" is foolish.....This can be a very damaging mindset to have. In no way, do you have to endure anything you aren't willing to, as that can lead to lowering your own standards and goals. WHICH is ok to do BUT only if you WANT to.
He would be out of the family... He would have a choice immediately. Either stop the BS or he is out of the family.. this is the latest Trump supporter agenda is pushing ending of womens rights to no fault divorce..
@@Hifuutorian You guys are no better than the people taking Destiny's points out of context and giving him shit for it too. The man you're referring to is called Chase, and he himself did not condone physical abuse. You're treating all three men as if they're the same person.
@@tronovonflidder775 chase did a lot of evading though. Claimed it was rare, said it was hard to give prescriptions etc, but had immediate answers for third trimester abortions and cheating (they all immediately recommended divorce). I Don't think he did well in this part of the discussion. Literally said 'just a guy getting drunk and beating his wife occasionally' as if it was no big deal lol
My father broke a door down trying to get to my mother, sister, and I. My mother got stuck under the door trying to block it. It broke her collar bone, shoulder, and bruised her face to her foot. The reaction from a specific aunt on my mothers side disgusts me to this day, and she has never apologized. My mother called her that night for help. My aunt told her “you shouldn’t have picked a fight” and then hung up….I don’t speak to this aunt anymore
wow that must have been very traumatising for all of you, awful of that aunt to say that too, I'm sorry yall went through that! The hardest part growing up after my mom getting us away from my abusive dad was realising how many adults, especially adult family memebers knew we were being physically abused and literally did nothing and didn't even help us leave, realising that brought a lot of hurt back after years of just holding it in. Fuck any adult defending abuse and I'm glad you've cut your aunt out of your life, she doesn't deserve to be in it if that is her views! (sorry for any bad spelling, 2nd language andy over here)
@@lishanimations9852 oh wow..this hits close to home, when you have family that knows but does nothing. I grew up in a very similar situation..im sorry you didn’t have anyone. The healing process is terrible at first but worth it, please go no contact with those who hurt you so terribly. They don’t deserve your presence. I hope you are doing very well now compared to them friend
I have a friend who got in a relationship with a guy very young and he became abusive almost immediately after she became a stay home mom. After 2 kids and separation, she’s living on her own and has a very good job and he is STILL trying to control her and mentally abuse her. Abuse isn’t a phase.
Thank you for being outspoken on this, I've had to get away from abusive parents and past partners and I appreciate your support. Hearing how you feel about this helps me understand my experience made me desensitized to abuse so now I can form healthy boundaries in relationships
Domestic violence is literally in 1in4 intimate relationships. In California 20% of all police calls are for domestic violence. It’s like the entire manosphere sub genre is just “being ignorant” the podcast 💀
@@bot4hire202 Considering women commit around 70-80% of non-reciprocal domestic abuse, you'd think they'd spend as much time researching and leaning on the subject as possible. The fact they could be so ignorant on a subject that benefits their point blows my mind.
@@TzavaotI can’t take any man that gets abused by his wife/gf seriously and I’m not even a red-piller. I have twice/thrice her strength, what is she gonna do? 😄
as someone whose dealt with abusive relationships, specifically my father to my mother and I, these guys have no idea what abuse even is clearly and they shouldn't speak on it AT ALL
@@equidistanthoneyjoy7600 😂 did you no that when guys see a woman the part of the brain that lights up is the same when they see a tool like a screwdriver or a knife . We really are different.
@@drygimangdrminjak8177 don’t be lazy search it upon. I’m looking at it right now. I don’t wanna have to read through all of the studies to give you the one that’s reputable cause there’s a lot here. You do your homework. Keep in mind a lot of the stuff that humans do are subjects of nature, not social.
I am a male and was in a 5 year abusive relationship (i was abused). We got divorced about a year ago and its was the best thing we could have done. The fact that anyone could think of continuing an abusive marriage/relationship just shows how stupid and immature they are.
“We’re talking about guy getting drunk and beating his wife occasionally”… ARE YOU SERIOUS? Chase, really?? What planet are you on? Getting occasionally beat is still getting beat. My drunkard, alcoholic grandad used to beat my grandmother. He would beat her so often that my dad (his son) and his siblings tuned it out and acted like it wasn’t happening… even as adults!! My mom would try to pry him off grandma and beg my dad for help and he’d say “for what? Nothings happening. I don’t care if it happens once a month or once a week, excusing it because he’s drunk is the most disgusting asinine thing I’ve heard from these podcasts. It’s so frustrating and unnerving.
They also kicked out another girl halfway through the show just because she didn’t want to talk about her virginity. It was absolutely pathetic how mad they got over that.
@@alena8388 I’m not talking about this specific video, but in general both the men and the girls who go on podcasts like this tend to be completely delusional, narcissistic and entitled.
@@alena8388 I think it talks in general on that show, not for the abuse talk, if you see some clips of the show there are on both sides enough cringe to notice that is just more trash TV format show but on internet.
That conversation around divorce was so awful. My dad used to beat us. Kicked my mom with the spurs on his boots, choked my sister out, even broke my arm once because he got annoyed with me being a kid and doing kid stuff. According to my mom he was completely normal until he joined the army and returned home from Desert Storm. After that he became insanely physically and mentally abusive. I'm so glad she chose not to stay with him because who knows if it could have gotten worse and wound up with one of us dead. Telling victims of abuse to just stick it out is so disgusting. NO ONE should be made to endure abuse.
To the dudes on this podcast the abuse was still your mother's fault. Never forget that these people are malicious. That to them a man can never do anything wrong unless it's not buy the absolute sh1t they're selling.
@@obama2747 and what is wrong with that exactly why can't they tell each other there perfect how does that effect you how does that compare to telling people to be. Abbused
@@obama2747what are you talking about lmao you just shouted out some talking points that you’ve wanted to say even though they don’t pertain to this
@@uglyrobot1975 You simply don't respect them enough to be worth convincing. I guess the jokes on him, cause he will have to endure the abuse of the internet now
so what, people should continue living their life in constant depression about one event in their potentially 80 years of human life? so we dont encourage them to not let incidents like these define them and not encourage them to continue the pursuit of happiness and being the best they can be? how is that at all beneficial for an abuse victim? we're not saying 'endure, its trivial and unimportant', we're saying 'endure, its not worth staying sad over because there's still so much beauty life can offer you which you should take advantage of'. everyone goes through shit, some worse than others, but who is the happiest is decided by who can get up from a bad situation and create something beautiful. to do with the dudes on the podcast, suit and tie guy and purple shirt i often disagree with. brian and chase i pretty much 100% agree with on most things. i am in support of traditional values and traditional roles of men and women and traditional familial values. i myself am also religious. i believe divorce should be a last resort to solving any problem in a marriage. however, if a relationship does get to a point where one or both parties experience constant abuse/one time abuse, i think a divorce should be done. its not healthy for the mother, father, and especially detrimental for the children if there are any. that being said, some abusive relationships can be avoided if you choose your partners wisely. if people took more responsibility, and took relationships as seriously as they should be taken, then there is less chance of ending up in an abusive relationship. when i say this also, i dont say that abuse victims deserve any abuse they may have received, no one does, im just saying there's a prevention method for this problem. (edit: yes, i stupidly wrote this comment b4 watching the actual video, im sorry about that)
hearing someone strongly advocate for victims to 'endure' gives me every single negative emotion. i survived both psychological and physical and i would never want someone to experience any amount of what i went through. people DIE because of this idea that 'its just a phase' and 'its not that bad'. i was nowhere close to being potentially m-rder-d by my partner but this train of thought leads to people's deaths. genuinely one of the most horrific takes ive ever heard. do not endure. LEAVE. save yourself/ your children. reach out for help - a good support network makes the biggest difference when trying to leave
“When a man chooses to be abusive, he breaks the covenant. An abusive man forfeits the right to remain married...” The third time the Bible commands divorce is in Ezra 9-10.
“You have to endure” and then later your spouse is then pronounced dead due to “enduring” the abuse, but divorce is the devil a sin, but going to jail for murder isn’t lmao I’m glad Charlie is pointing it out this lunacy from these boys
and how the concept of divorce for those guys is some type of schrodinger cat kind of shit where doesnt exist for abusive but does existe went the women cheats, tf?!
"For better or worse" doesn't include abuse. These guys would really like those extremist imams creating all sorts of made up religious rules to control women.
Gotta love the framing of “giving up” when referring to someone divorcing because they’re getting physically abused lol. In fact that almost sounds like textbook manipulation. “Babe, I’m leaving! You’ve hit me 20 time today.” “So what? You’re giving up? I thought you were stronger than that?”
I’ll be honest, I had a similar mindset growing up as a teen. I didn’t want giving up in friendships. I always thought it was possible to make through anything if we were honest and talked it out. I don’t think it’s the same mindset as what these people do, but it did take me years to realize just separating is fine and you can’t - sadly - always make any relationship work.
as someone who witnessed domestic violence between parents, divorce is definitely the lesser of the two. hell i was jumping for glee when they broke up for the first time
When charges were laid against my father and we went to trial, my family showed up and stood with him. Afterwards my own grandmother said to me “ how can you put your father in jail?” I just looked at her and said “ I didn’t, he did” I broke the circle of abuse that occurred for generations and I would never tell someone to just “endure” 😡
I hope your father gets out and finds you. I really hope and I hope that he will make your belly swell after pumping you full with white milk. What you did is absolutely despicable
You did the right thing sadly my mother didn’t go through prison but I did get taken away from her still get shit in my birthday cards like “I miss you” and “I’m sorry” and “I’ve changed” they never change and I’m glad you stopped him
The first words out of this man's mouth... "Divorce is not a thing.." I'm legitimately speechless that in an age with so much knowledge and information widely available we still have people like this.
That guy's a theocrat. He meant "according to my religion" or "in the eyes of God you are always married to that person." Obviously in reality marriage is just an agreement and you literally can break the agreement, and stop being married
@goldengucci2275 As a Christian myself, I can confirm this. God, in no way, tolerates abuse. It's a sin to do so. It's even right there in the Bible, clear as day, "Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them,". If someone is physically abusing their spouse, they've dishonored their wife, and their marriage, which dishonors God. Disrespectful on all accounts. Divorcing an abusive spouse is absolutely necessary in those situations, especially if they refuse to shape up, you have children or both.
bro, what does he mean super nuanced. Have these people cracked a book, no not even, a fucking google search would tell u how extremely heartbreakingly common it is
There's a difference between hard times in a relationship, and being mentally and physically abused. If someone is gaslighting, manipulating, and full on hitting me in a relationship, that is not hard times, that's abuse.
My father told me a story from his job that relates to this topic. There was an elderly gentleman (in his late 70s) who came to the attention of the authorities after a health checkup. He had bruising and welts all over his legs, thighs and groin. At first he made up a variety of excuses and lies before eventually breaking down in tears and telling the truth. His wife, who travelled everywhere with him when he left the house always kept a set of pliers with her. If he did something to irritate or annoy her she used the pliers to grab the skin of his legs and violently twist. She even had a set in their car for that specific purpose. He had been married to this woman for over 50 years. Every time I hear someone surprised or shocked that men can and are abused in relationships this story comes to mind. Noone should EVER stay in an abusive relationship and the statement "Just endure!" makes me feel physically sick.
Oh my god that’s so fucking sad, poor man. I hope he’s doing okay now or was able to leave. He deserves to be happy and not fearful of the one who’s supposed to love him more than anyone else
Am from India , so I have seen abuse in my own family Ofcourse but the absolute horrendous was that occurred in my servant quarters (we have one servant’s family live in the back rooms of our home). This man used to regularly beat the woman who was our helper. The man was unemployed and wasted all her earnings and one time when she refused, he took the hot rod (used for boiling water) and stuck it on her thigh. The absolute scream was animalistic. Not just that, he didn’t remove that rod it for quite some time. Her skin melted off, her thigh was blackened and pus formed when I saw it
I honestly just got divorced (April 28th) because of an abusive marriage. I am male. This was honestly the most hysterical crap I've heard in a while. Thanks for bringing this to light charlie lol. Edit: HOLY CRAP THIS BLEW UP. to all asking if I'm in a better situation, yes I am thank you! This means a lot more to me than you all think. I've been pretty broken ever since it all started and I'm trying to piece myself back together. I've dealt with the abuse for almost 5 years and that shit changes you as a person. Thank you all for being so supportive and caring! I've put a lot of effort into rebuilding myself. I've finally landed a stable job I like (ride mechanic at a Major theme park), I've put a lot of effort into my twitch stream hobby and finally hit affiliate (come on by if you want I'm CasBasko on there too), things have been looking up this year and seeing all these people (2.1k likes?! Holy shit!!!) rooting for me really put things into perspective. I've blamed myself for everything that's happened to me for years. I somehow thought it was all my fault. It means so much to see you all here, thank you ❤️
Congrats!! I hope things have been going well since then. Abused men are all too often overlooked but I’m glad there’s increasing awareness. Really happy for you.
I've only watched until 1:26 and I'm already angry. "It is rare"? Rare my ass. I've seen this shit happen to so many women around me when I was little. My grandma got married in the 60's when she was around 20 with my grandpa who treated her perfectly for a year BEFORE my mom was born. Once she had the kid, he turned into a fucking monster. Once he KNEW that my grandma was perfectly locked into that situation (due to kids, the stupid society AND the weird laws of a then-communist country) he showed his true colors. I've seen it happen not once, not twice but three times ONLY in my family. That is the reason why men scared me so much in the past. My dad wasn't as bad, but still wasn't good too. My aunt used to get beaten with my little niece still inside her. The poor little sweet girl has some problems and we're pretty sure it comes from that. Same shit, he treated her good UNTIL the kid came into play. I swear to God I'd break the neck of anyone dismissing abuse victims like this. It's impossible to say "it is rare" because almost EVERYONE knows at least ONE case in their life, no matter how much luck they had. It gets to a point where if you say all this shit it's because you CHOOSE to not see it bcs it doesn't help your fucking narrative.
Yeah, I grew up abused for 13 years (sexually from my father, he abused my brother physically) and ppl told me that it wasn't bad and just "discipline" like.. molesting your daughter is.. discipline?? beating your son until he's numb is discipline??
@GriffDidSomeThingsWrong OP said that their father beat up their brother almost every day for 10 years. OP also said that their father sexually assaulted them for 10 years as well, and people had the gall to make excuses for that behavior and even called it "discipline".
its so awful. as a kid who had to watch and sometimes experience the abuse from my father, it is a cycle and sometimes it weans and wanes but never just goes away. and it also manifests in kids different ways too. generational trauma has a play too. all around saddening.
They’re serving undereducated white, cisgender male privileged energy. It’s not cute boys. The guy in black and white looks like a referee but I’d be surprised if anyone in his life allowed him to call the shots.
never seen so many braindead men in a room, they got me speechless. the lady asking the questions definitely knew what they were on, she asked the right questions to let everyone know that theyre insane.
Thats why they call it the manosphere, because its a safe space where this wackos can exist without being ridiculized by the whole room. Its like the whole room being elephants and not a single human in sight.
so im a male, my ex partner used to slap often and only when she tried pushing me down stairs did i leave. male abuse is real and im not weak for leaving
Another day, another devaluation of the word trauma, remember when trauma used to mean things like going through WWI, seeing people blown apart every day, or losing your entire family, or watching a loved one being tortured. Now it's literally just "someone punched me" "someone calls me bad names" "I'm unhappy with my body image" "someone touched my pp" But that's the culture of victimhood these days.
As a Christian, these guys do nothing to make Christianity look mighty. They disgrace my religion. If you’re being abused, get away from the abuser. Don’t endure.
To be fair, every christian out there makes Christianity look bad. Same with every religion btw. This also is not saying non religious people are good, not at all. It just seems evil and ignorance go hand in hand with the religious bunch and yes, this goes for every place on the planet.
Well as a Christian what I was saying is that if a man is abusing his wife, he's not in a marriage. He's in abuse. Jesus says to love you wife as Christ loves the church as he gave himself up for her. That means to go through all the scriptures and handle things the way Jesus would. Jesus wasn't a tyrant, controlling, manipulative, gaslighting idiot. He let people make their choice and taught them. He let people have their freedom to choose. When he threw tables, he threw tables to protect the church. He didn't throw table at the church. So men who abuse their spouses aren't in a marriage. They are in abuse. The women isn't divorcing a marriage. She's leaving abuse. The bible also says women need to respect their husbands. There's no respect for an abuser. A marriage is when a man loves his wife as Christ loves the church as he gave himself up for her and when a woman respects her husband. That's what an actual Christian marriage is. These guys seem to not know what a marriage is according to Jesus.
They forgot that to get married in Christianity you have to make a vow before God to honor, love, and take care of your spouse in sickness and in health, in good times and bad, forever. Abuse is an immediate betrayal of that vow to God and their spouse.
I'll admit, I've finally found a Charlie video that I cannot watch through all the way. Just 10 seconds into that podcast killed the brain cells I had left
The endure guy actually has multiple charges of physical assault and got charged with bottling a woman in the face in a nightclub in Japan.... it's fucked and the victim refuses to speak about it cause how traumatized she is 😢
They think abortion is violent but then when a woman asks if a man is violently beating their partner to death is bad or not they go “meh, that’s not that bad” “probably just a rough patch”.
@serenacelestine nah the other comment was right, it's the name thing. Plus we don't wanna wipe a baby girl and get doodoo down there. (I have a daughter so I kinda know what I'm on about)
@@ascendednightingale2456literally no need to put down the very real idea of your child being the legacy of you and your family just to point out the blatant and deep misogyny these guys exhibit. missing the real problems.
My dad hit my mom, my older brother, my grandmother and myself. My parents divorced and I was never more thankful. I want these idiots to be stuck in a simulation of an abusive childhood for the rest of their lives
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I've gotten drunk and hammered before and never thought to myself "damn, my wife kinda looking like a...punching bag" these dudes are delusional.
@@skellybonz5467 😂
@@skellybonz5467 if that’s the case I’m putting on brass knuckles
@@KetchupColoredKnife real talk tho I love using brass knuckles to cheat in gta online fist fights😈(I’m evil)
Well unfortunately there are pieces of shit that do that. But there also a lot of Situations where it’s a 2 way street of toxic behavior. It happened one time with my parents and it never happened again. Now I don’t think In the real world
You should never give the benefit of the doubt, but they worked
It out and it never happened again they been together for a long time and would Do anything for each other. So I do think there are rare situations where it is more nuanced. Keep
In mind I’m talking about them just beating each other brutally.
@@skellybonz5467Of course not, beat your wife whenever you want
"Brooo why is everyone sooo sensitive, just endure abuse from your partner for the rest of your life"
- definitely not abusive guy
You can tell he didnt even believe that, his eyes lit up as he saw the chance to go viral for saying something idiotic which 13 year old boys will perceive as 'alpha'
Are any of these guys even married or in a relationship?
Also them
"But as soon as a woman cheats, you have to leave because the bible says so, so it's worse than abuse 😡"
@@deadams8905 I watch some clips of them and from what I see most of them arent. The guy 2nd to the left, i think his name is Chad, said one time that he expects a virgin as his future wife but he isnt a virgin himself. But he didnt have sex the last few years to save himself for marriage so that counts for him apparently. In general they have so many double standards and for the most part they just invite stupid women to their podcasts so they can shit on them.
when you think about it that is kinda how an abusive person thinks about it, they usually think they're just having the appropriate reaction and the other person deserves their behavior, they don't think of themselves as bad people.
A summarization:
1. Divorce isn't a real thing
2. If a partner is being abused, they need to stay and endure violence
3. BUT...if the woman cheats, THEN divorce becomes a real thing, and then that's the only circumstance to leave.
The fuck is going on?!?! Are these mfers from the year 1679?
Extremely conservative “alpha males” with internet access and being surrounded by likeminded individuals
Some people look to ancient philosophers like the stoics of Rome or great thinkers from past centuries like Kant or Nietzsche for wisdom on how life can be lived in a fulfilling way that benefits everyone. These guys read a biography of King Henry VIII to get their inspiration.
I like how the idea of the man cheating was just never addressed in general, does divorce magically become an option or should the woman just endure?
@@Myhrrylyth Just endure, of course! /s
You don't know sh*t about 1679!!1!1!!
“Just endure” is like telling a homeless person to just buy a house.
More like telling them to not bother looking for a home, the cardboard box is fine
Yeah you kinda got that backwards
he will say that unironically i'm telling you
nah its worse. its like telling him "its not that bad" 😂
@@jamescooper3739most homeless people aren’t looking for a home tho. they’re looking for $5 so they can buy some crack
"Don't be a quitter, find an excuse to keep going!" - my therapist regarding my gambling addiction
This gave me such a belly laugh. Thank you for that
Nice joke 10/10
just remember: 80% of all gambling addicts quit right before making it big
@@echodec this is so fucked lmao
@@echodec bruh lmao
Imagine being a father and able to look at your abused daughter and say "just endure"
Fr, that's just disgusting
or just any woman lol
I’m not gonna lie destiny’s dumb wife made these people look dumb. You know there dumb if she makes them look dumb.
@@abiswxllow1934 The reason most men understand the gravity of these situations is by making it personal to them. Sad but at least it helps some of them to think and reflect.
I can my dad basically did treat me like that and it was so hard to even tell him. He was like well I was abused too. Like no he was very likely the instigator from what I can tell
Abuse is 100X worse than cheating. Hitting your wife and kids deserves years of jail time.
is this why western kids are more disrespectful than kids in non western countries who are actually disciplined? In my country growing up I was hit a lot even more in school by teachers than at home and i turned out fine. We all did. I come to the west and see how disrespectful most young people are to elders and their parents
Cheating can be a form of abuse, not a strong argument tbh
@@lyndonbauer1703 I am talking about physical abuse. I think its pretty obvious. Cheating with someone else, is not physical abuse.
@@ashleylove6840it can be emotional abuse though
From where I'm fore the abuser are beat up and sent to jail
"There's no such thing as divorce" is very "there is no war in Ba Sing Se" of him
Underrated comment 😂💀
ATLA reference + funny, I hope my future kids grow up to be like you
What do you mean? There _is_ no war in Ba Sing Se
@@valeriekatampoi216 soon youll see, young bender
True people of culture in this reply chain I see.
Telling an abuse victim they have to “just endure” is like telling a recovering coke addict that they have to “just finish the bag”
Bro what
Didn’t think id see you here lol, just saw your last habitations video too haha
*haminations
The bag always gets finished, addict or not.
What?!?! A coke head would be so happy to finish a bag of coke so idk what comparison you're trying to make....
Edit she added the word recovering because it didn't make sense before so stop trying to explain it to me now
The fact that they were so quick to say someone should divorce after cheating, but not when you’re getting abused reveals a lot about their character.
They’re so defensive when abuse was brought up because they probably are abusive themselves.
@@MeMe-tw4xb Most likely, or they have abusive thoughts about their partner/women in general.
They must be right wingers
@@Joaopereira-dh3dw Broad brushstroke, You must be a Sith since you deal in absolutes.
@@Joaopereira-dh3dwI mean, they are like a red pill podcast so absolutely
My girlfriend used to emotionally abuse me (i'm a man), i tried enduring it at first hoping it would pass. Eventually I ended up removing her from my life completely. Currently, I'm 4 years into an awesome relationship with the best girl ever. It works out so well because we are supportive, attentive and understanding to eachother. Don't endure, just move on.
Congrats bro✊
Hell yea man. Happy for you!
I’m glad you endured 😂
You did the right thing. Being with the right person is the best reward and you got it😁
I’m proud of you man 👊🏻
"everyone just gives up" MY BROTHER IN CHRIST THERE IS A HOLE IN THE WALL NEXT TO MY HEAD
Window
Literally 😭😭😭
Turns out the "endure" guy is abusive, shocker
Wait seriously?
@@ricardo3011 Aba N Preach did a video on MLD. Reddit also has stories about him
@@ricardo3011 yep. he bragged about hitting girls with a bottle. he's such a fking loser
wow so shocked.
Literally not surprising at all
Bro imagine building up the courage to finally tell someone your husband is beating tf outta you and you go tell your dad and he’s like “deal with it stop being so soft. He”ll stop eventually, it’s just a phase” 😭😭😭 some people just don’t need to have kids
zoomers should never have been born millineals should not have been allowed children without government tests and intervention. Millennials where the worst most degenerate unfit generation to ever exsit in society. Millennials have had no positive impact on the world at all. their children are basicly parasites who are futher destroying the world.
55 years ago this was a pretty average response if you want me to be blunt. Keeping the family together was important ABOVE people's happiness, that's unhealthy. Problem in today's society, people end a marriage over arguments (mind you we are just talking about arguing not anything physical because once its physical IMO THAT'S WHEN YOU LEAVE) and claim that is abuse, ignoring the trauma your kids will get from a broken home (if you don't have kids thou if your constantly arguing then you really didn't know each other IMO and never should have tied the knot).
All kids deserve to have parents but not all parents deserve to have kids, that's just how it is sadly.
@@strykrpinoy "It was normal in the past" is not a good justification for anything, really. Parents provide the model for relationships to their children. If that relationship is not healthy, even just at an emotional level, it will have lasting effects on the kids abilities for form their own healthy relationships. "Keeping it together for the kids" is a dated mentality for a reason, there isn't really any data that suggests its worthwhile.
@@strykrpinoy This is a much more reasonable argument than the one they made in the podcast but at the same time not everything can be set in stone.
Abuse is a phase huh? Ive been with my wife for 11 years and we've never gone through that "phase".
No, terrible 2s is a phase. Abusive partners are rage lord assholes.
Thought you were about to say "I've been beating my wife for 11 years and I don't plan on stopping, so it's not a phase"
As someone who has grown up in an abusive and dysfunctional home (I'm still only 15) I find it very disturbing how they say endure, I feel like that's something an abuser would say
from what I've heard, he IS an abuser lol. No surprise to anyone 🙄 off topic, I hope you're safe and doing well - I hope with everything that you get out of that situation, ive been there and i wouldnt wish it on anyone, especially not at 15. I give you all my luck! 🙏
@@funnypanda10 Wait, REALLY??? I mean, I'm not surprised, but is there any evidence of this guy's atrocities??
As a son who’s biological father beat my mother to a hospital bed. I’m really surprised she left and didn’t just “endure”.
Sorry about that man. Hope everyone’s fine
My mom's ex pile drove her into the dirt fuckin driveway outside our house AFTER they had been broken up for over three weeks and he started an argument on their way home from their favorite bar. Full on picked her up and slammed her shoulders first into the ground. Dudes like your dad and my mom's ex should not be anywhere near other human beings.
sorry. These podcasters are t he most shealthered kids known to man.
You're welcome
a woman in my family has been on an abusive relationship for about 17 years. she hasn't divorced because of her children. her older kid grew up to be a total pos, and is very evident that the younger one, who i love very much, is going on the same path. it breaks my heart thinking what their lives would've been like if she had just divorced her. but she should just endure it, i guess.
i never thought leaving an abusive relationship would be a hot topic question to debate about… this is depressing.
It's not. Don't let this bafoons make you think it is. They are the minority
don't be upset by it. They are either idiots or they are looking for attention. Regardless of what they actually think, the only reason it is getting attention is because its a stupid and ridiculous opinion
yeah :c
Depressing is not doing the will of God. Jesus has many times said to endure abusers. Once he said that whoever divorces one for any reason other than prostitution is a sin.
The problem Is not being divorced,the problem Is the motherfucker killing the pair even with restriction perder and things
I can’t remember who said it but it was a cop talking about abuse, and i heard it while In an abusive relationship and it scared me so much I started telling my friend about the abuse. He said (paraphrasing) “ if they’re willing to verbally abuse you they are willing to physically abuse you. If they’re willing to physically abuse you they are willing to kill you” . Abuse escalates if it’s not addressed.
exactly someone died this way from accumulated damage and died in the hospital
My aunt was murdered in front of her children by her abusive spouse. Would love to hear their excuse for it.
I'm sorry that this happened to you hope you're doing well
I'm so sorry 💔
He literally called women who have endured trauma "nut bags." Then the sreenshots of him admitting to numerous counts of assault against various women surfaced. Soo basically he wants to abuse women and then call THEM nutbags for living through it.
I knew he probably abuses his partners. He is just trying to justify his own shit
Crazy how much dirt you can find on a person when they slip up that bad live 😭
@@leocuatepotzo5225Self snitching is a thing. People become too comfortable on the internet and share too much.
that sounds about right
The venn diagram of men who hand-wave abuse, and men who commit abuse, is a circle
“You want to marry a lobotomized sex doll” that perfectly describes these “alpha” dudes 💀
They’re absolutely horrifying
Does that actually sound bad to you guys
@@RiverRat6996 obviously?
Pffft its because they can't pull L mans not getting no play
They wouldn't even be happy with that. They are not happy people. They hate anything feminine, they believe they're superior to it. Putting women down is the only thing that will actually get them off.
My rage became physical agony listening to these lads talk
just endure it bro
I have 5 close female friends, and out of all of us, I am the only one that HASN'T been domestically abused. I also have 3 male friends that have been abused by their female partners. I know this is circumstantial evidence, but it is mind-blowing that these lads think it's as rare as they say.
People are violent. It's in our nature sadly.
@@ThePopeOfCats Something I've always thought that you would think is so fundamental is that there is never any good reason to be violent in everyday life. Not if someone makes fun of you, not if they look at you funny, not if your wife is annoying you, not if your kids are being little shits or a waiter spills your drink on you, not even if you get cheated on. There isn't one single argument justifying a resort to violence in that situation and yet some people think themselves better for it.
@@ThePopeOfCatsthat doesnt make it ok?! are you demented?
“Divorce isn’t real” is a galaxy brain take
Hey now divorce is just as real as marriage
Divorce doesn't exist in a metaphysical sense, is what they were trying to say.
@peppyyozcharlie* 💀
That's catholics for you, I could be misrembering what I heard but from what I understand catholics dont divorce, they just say that it wasn't a real marriage in the first place, or that could be jews im not sure
I mean if the man has to pay alimony to the woman then he is still providing for her which he shouldn't because the marriage is over she is no longer his woman to provide for, but states make the man do it. Men should not have to take care of their ex spouse if you want to walk away then don't make me pay for your life anymore. So for some men divorce doesn't exist other than you don't have a romantic side, but she still be taking your money
"abuse is rare"
12 seconds later, essentially, "If you're being abused, it's not special. Endure and don't be a quitter. You'd have to be a pretty special person to be worthy of not being abused"
And "I knew lots of people in abusive households...""
They really just be making shit up as they go lol
I really love how you pointed out the contradiction so clearly
They said suddenly becoming abusive is rare, not that abuse is rare.
@@stickman787 how is “becoming abusive’ rare but abuse in itself isn’t rare 😭
Yeeeees!!! Finaly someone told that
“You can’t divorce that’s not a real thing.” I just laughed out loud involuntarily.
Crazy thing is is that almost all situations where the person being abused just “endures it” they end up dead most of the time
If your beliefs conflict with the idea of ending an abusive relationship, you got to re-evaluate them
@peppyyoz get out. nobody cares.
@@InstagramUser2 Only Instagram users speak gibberish.
@Pepperman [YFGA] your mom xposes me shaftling
I don’t even think most Catholics would agree with their statements
today everything is "abuse" "oh, he was so abusive and toxic" = 99% of the time made up BS and excuse to leave the relationship
As someone who went through seeing their mom get divorced, cheated on, and abused, the abusive part was easily the worst and seeing her divorce him was the greatest.
THIS
SAME. My dad would go on these “divorce brings nothing good” rants but wouldn’t put any energy into changing 💀
I haven’t seen him in almost a year but I finally no longer fear he’ll kill us in our sleep.
He who divorces someone for any reason other than prostitution commits adultery. According to the Lord that is a sin. What's so great about that?
Sorry both of you had to live with and hope y’all are good now 🙏🏾
@@billykoyrtzis981”he”. males and females usually have different roles in marriage, and are supposed to in the bible.
Do you know what happens when you endure an abusive relationship? You get put in a suitcase still alive telling your significant other to please let you out while they mock you from the outside, go upstairs and go to bed while you sit there and suffocate to death.
My husband was extensively abused by his ex. She would stop him from sleeping, hit him, force him to watch her send her nudes to other people, and force herself on him. She would hit their children and threaten him that she would hurt them if he didnt do what she wanted. She isolated him by spreading lies to his family and friends and would threaten him by saying she would make false statements to the police. She was aided by his military leadership who told him he needed to "man up" and work it out.
This lasted for years until his mother saw the abuse first hand and he was able to divorce her.
It was an extremely messy divorce and he and his children experienced a lot of things they shouldn't have dealt with and it all came down to people not believing a man can be abused and that you should always try to stay with your partner.
That mentality is dangerous and outright wrong.
I hope your hubby is doing okay. Terribly sorry he went through that. I know I'm some random dick online, but tell him that this anon thinks he's one of the strongest men ever to come out of that. The scars left on his heart are real, and it's totally okay that he works through that trauma and heals however he needs to and for as long as he needs to.
Also I hope his bitch ex got locked up, though I sadly doubt it.
Telling "just endure" to abuse victims is like telling "just breathe" to an asthma patient
Lmao fr just like telling someone thats in a coma “just wake up”😂
I'd argue "just endure" is the same as telling an Asthma patient to "just stop breathing"
But the main difference is, in the case of the abuse victim, leaving the situation is actually on the table as an option. Although even if they do leave, the trauma can indeed be permanent.
Saying just buy a house to a homeless person
I have depression, pls help me. - Therapist: "sure, just endure"
Definitely the best solution to all our problems
Kid : Literally breaks all of his bones from his abusive parent
Walmart Sal : *E N D U R E*
😂😂😂😂 WALMART SAL 💀 💀
Walmart sal is literally such a genius name 😭😭😭😭😭😭
💀💀
2 months later and walmart sal still endures
now lets not forget how RARE this case is, so really yes of course the kid should just get the shit kicked out of him because he's a rare special case and how dare he think his problems matter, what if the parent kills themselves because the kid left, its all about ENDURANCE.
what a fucked up argument, imagine pointing out how rare a scenario is before making the scenario even more rare to justify there points ( in reference to the part where he mentioned how the abuser is probably drunk when he abuses and that makes it ok somehow (which I also don't follow). not all abusers are drunk so therefore he only went and narrowed down the, what the claim, rare scenario in the first place.
Also the fact that they seem personally defensive as soon as someone mentions “abuse” is a little concerning
Do these guys not realise that most abuse victims DO endure for MANY years and NOTHING changes. Also when they do endure and later ask for help they’re told they’re at fault for not leaving sooner.. which one is it.
It's crazy how determined they are to embarrass themselves online
Yet they get paid for it and here u are making 0 dollars talkin about them lmao
These shows are just a bunch of stupid people trying to sound intellectual, i love it.
@@NeuroDrags 🍪
@@NeuroDrags You are so right my G, I'm not thinking about paper enough. Alright, every 5 dollars I get I'll say something misogynystic
@@NeuroDrags Bro if you think they're making more than minimum wage for even a third world country standard you are cracked
The fact that these men seem to see abuse as a normal relationship “phase” makes me wonder how they typically treat their romantic partners
Nerdy girl coochie got me acting unwise
It's like Crowder.
They probably don’t have too many romantic partners
You are all misinformed as to what the podcast is all about it’s about men who want traditional relationships and the women on the podcast are feminists and Charlie just so happened to forget to put that part in.
@@aidsdoh8286 The only thing they love is the sound of their own voice. Probably pay for ass and complain when a woman wants personal freedom
as someone whos witnessed both physical and emotional abuse, as well as a divorce from my parents, i promise the divorce was the best thing that could have ever happened for all of us.
I'm still baffled that these dudes are insinuating that they'll leave if the partner cheats, but will "endure" getting beat up every day
How the women managed to stay there without dying of cringe is amazing.
They must be paid to be there. Because if not, they'd all just get up and leave.
@@fishy0929they deffo get paid, maybe not destiny because this will get him attention but the women absolutely got paid.
she did die
she was just ENDURING
@@fishy0929I imagine they aren't the smartest and are just there to get a few more followers
@@iHomelessMonkey My God, to have to be there and not even get paid, but just for some extra followers. Why torture themselves like that!?
telling an abuse victim to “just endure” is like bringing an epileptic to a disco party
And saying “just don’t focus on the colors” like what
😂😂😂
I understand the metaphor but isn't there medication for epileptics?
@SlimThief what does that have to do with the metaphor
the thing is, all it takes to be an "abuse victim" these days is just saying you were abused cause you got yelled at one time. Its a joke and the amount of dummies crying abuse but didnt actually go through it are just making it worse for the real victims. Disgusting.
An abusive relationship is a phase in one way: it's a phase of their life that they later look back on once the escape from it.
Guy in the middle sounds like Mac from it's always sunny, instantly bringing up the bible when someone challenges him
Those girls did such a good job of asking questions to let the guys show everyone how stupid and horrible they are. Every follow up question they just dug a deeper and deeper hole for themselves and the girls barely needed to add anything. Impressive
For real. I dare say, a bit of an epic prank on behalf of the ladies LOOL
There is a saying about giving enough rope... Looks like the hosts followed through on it flawlessly. What an absolute clown, but that's too nice, it will be a good day when they get taken down for being outed as abusers themselves.
Hold on there, they might have messed up on this question, as in, there ain’t no way you gotta endure physical abuse, however, any challenges in a marriage, yes, you gotta endure those, but from I gather, they usually invite OF hoes to clown on.
@@davep5698 giving someone enough rope to hang themselves is a form of art, really
@@Owlmare No one has to endure anything...Not even when it comes to marriage. That is up to everyone's personal preference whether they want to endure the situation at hand or not. To say "any challenges in a marriage, you gotta endure" is foolish.....This can be a very damaging mindset to have. In no way, do you have to endure anything you aren't willing to, as that can lead to lowering your own standards and goals. WHICH is ok to do BUT only if you WANT to.
Imagine raising a son and watching him grow up to be one of these alpha male podcasters.
😂
I would call his ass over and tell him to get ready to “endure”; the abuse phase is beginning 🤜🏽🤛🏽
I'd be so disappointed 😂😂
He would be out of the family... He would have a choice immediately. Either stop the BS or he is out of the family.. this is the latest Trump supporter agenda is pushing ending of womens rights to no fault divorce..
someones been watching too much andrew tate@@noelani4101
thank you for being so genuine , i just found your channel yesterday. and im hooked to your traansparency, thank you
Telling an abuse victim to "just endure" is like waking up a war veteran with firecrackers and loud aircraft noises.
Imagine telling your daughter “endure the physical abuse”
That one guy got real fucking quiet when asked about his daughter lmao.
Sad to say he probably wouldn't really mind though.
@@Hifuutorian
You guys are no better than the people taking Destiny's points out of context and giving him shit for it too. The man you're referring to is called Chase, and he himself did not condone physical abuse. You're treating all three men as if they're the same person.
@@tronovonflidder775I think they are talking about the dude on the right in the suit
@@tronovonflidder775 they are all pretty worthless so its ok to join them all together
@@tronovonflidder775 chase did a lot of evading though. Claimed it was rare, said it was hard to give prescriptions etc, but had immediate answers for third trimester abortions and cheating (they all immediately recommended divorce). I Don't think he did well in this part of the discussion. Literally said 'just a guy getting drunk and beating his wife occasionally' as if it was no big deal lol
My father broke a door down trying to get to my mother, sister, and I. My mother got stuck under the door trying to block it. It broke her collar bone, shoulder, and bruised her face to her foot.
The reaction from a specific aunt on my mothers side disgusts me to this day, and she has never apologized. My mother called her that night for help. My aunt told her “you shouldn’t have picked a fight” and then hung up….I don’t speak to this aunt anymore
I have a similar situation, especially with those kinds of aunts. I’m so sorry
wow that must have been very traumatising for all of you, awful of that aunt to say that too, I'm sorry yall went through that!
The hardest part growing up after my mom getting us away from my abusive dad was realising how many adults, especially adult family memebers knew we were being physically abused and literally did nothing and didn't even help us leave, realising that brought a lot of hurt back after years of just holding it in. Fuck any adult defending abuse and I'm glad you've cut your aunt out of your life, she doesn't deserve to be in it if that is her views! (sorry for any bad spelling, 2nd language andy over here)
@@lishanimations9852 oh wow..this hits close to home, when you have family that knows but does nothing. I grew up in a very similar situation..im sorry you didn’t have anyone. The healing process is terrible at first but worth it, please go no contact with those who hurt you so terribly. They don’t deserve your presence. I hope you are doing very well now compared to them friend
How about opening the door next time? Women ...
@ENZA DENINOS POOSAY stfu. the only woman who's ever even been around u was ur mom and that was because she was obligated to 😂😂
I have a friend who got in a relationship with a guy very young and he became abusive almost immediately after she became a stay home mom. After 2 kids and separation, she’s living on her own and has a very good job and he is STILL trying to control her and mentally abuse her. Abuse isn’t a phase.
Thank you for being outspoken on this, I've had to get away from abusive parents and past partners and I appreciate your support. Hearing how you feel about this helps me understand my experience made me desensitized to abuse so now I can form healthy boundaries in relationships
the fact they keep calling it "an extreme 1% example" makes me so mad, abuse is so so common and the fact they don't believe that is so awful
The highest cause of death for pregnant women is murder
Domestic violence is literally in 1in4 intimate relationships. In California 20% of all police calls are for domestic violence. It’s like the entire manosphere sub genre is just “being ignorant” the podcast 💀
@@bot4hire202 Considering women commit around 70-80% of non-reciprocal domestic abuse, you'd think they'd spend as much time researching and leaning on the subject as possible. The fact they could be so ignorant on a subject that benefits their point blows my mind.
1% is pretty common anyway, 1 person out of 100 would mean at least 20 kids at my school are being abused, so yeah, they brain dead
@@TzavaotI can’t take any man that gets abused by his wife/gf seriously and I’m not even a red-piller. I have twice/thrice her strength, what is she gonna do? 😄
as someone whose dealt with abusive relationships, specifically my father to my mother and I, these guys have no idea what abuse even is clearly and they shouldn't speak on it AT ALL
As a 6-year Police Officer, I can tell you that abuse is way too common. It's very sad.
"You wanna marry a lobotomized sex doll?"
Charlie ALWAYS makes me laugh
What do you think about that Stat tho your chance of divorce or likely higher with a College educated girl 80-90%?
Only issue with the statement is that I feel like these guys would have just responded with "yes"
@@equidistanthoneyjoy7600 😂 did you no that when guys see a woman the part of the brain that lights up is the same when they see a tool like a screwdriver or a knife . We really are different.
@@Tarz2155source?
@@drygimangdrminjak8177 don’t be lazy search it upon. I’m looking at it right now. I don’t wanna have to read through all of the studies to give you the one that’s reputable cause there’s a lot here. You do your homework. Keep in mind a lot of the stuff that humans do are subjects of nature, not social.
I am a male and was in a 5 year abusive relationship (i was abused). We got divorced about a year ago and its was the best thing we could have done. The fact that anyone could think of continuing an abusive marriage/relationship just shows how stupid and immature they are.
It’s sad you had to clarify you were abused because a few people would definitely might have thought it was you
Fr. They're grown men with 5 year old mentalities.
I don't think you needed to specify that you were abused.
Nobody is like "i was in an abusive relationship, and i always enjoyed beating my partner"
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@@amanbirbthe4th967 im sorry i dont think i shouldve laughed at this LMAO
This is one of those moments where you just sit back and say "hey pal, you just blow in from stupid town?"
Argument is officially dead at that point.
“We’re talking about guy getting drunk and beating his wife occasionally”…
ARE YOU SERIOUS? Chase, really?? What planet are you on?
Getting occasionally beat is still getting beat.
My drunkard, alcoholic grandad used to beat my grandmother. He would beat her so often that my dad (his son) and his siblings tuned it out and acted like it wasn’t happening… even as adults!! My mom would try to pry him off grandma and beg my dad for help and he’d say “for what? Nothings happening.
I don’t care if it happens once a month or once a week, excusing it because he’s drunk is the most disgusting asinine thing I’ve heard from these podcasts. It’s so frustrating and unnerving.
They also kicked out another girl halfway through the show just because she didn’t want to talk about her virginity. It was absolutely pathetic how mad they got over that.
The girls on that show are just as bad as the men
Because the women on this show are just the cream of the crop, lol.
@@CR7_IS_THE_GOAT_14 the girl was defending victims of abuse, how’d you come to that conclusion????
@@alena8388 I’m not talking about this specific video, but in general both the men and the girls who go on podcasts like this tend to be completely delusional, narcissistic and entitled.
@@alena8388 I think it talks in general on that show, not for the abuse talk, if you see some clips of the show there are on both sides enough cringe to notice that is just more trash TV format show but on internet.
That conversation around divorce was so awful. My dad used to beat us. Kicked my mom with the spurs on his boots, choked my sister out, even broke my arm once because he got annoyed with me being a kid and doing kid stuff. According to my mom he was completely normal until he joined the army and returned home from Desert Storm. After that he became insanely physically and mentally abusive. I'm so glad she chose not to stay with him because who knows if it could have gotten worse and wound up with one of us dead. Telling victims of abuse to just stick it out is so disgusting. NO ONE should be made to endure abuse.
To the dudes on this podcast the abuse was still your mother's fault. Never forget that these people are malicious. That to them a man can never do anything wrong unless it's not buy the absolute sh1t they're selling.
@@strayiggytv women tell eachother there perfect even if there fat ur projecting feminism is what ur talking about
@@obama2747 and what is wrong with that exactly why can't they tell each other there perfect how does that effect you how does that compare to telling people to be. Abbused
@@obama2747what are you talking about lmao you just shouted out some talking points that you’ve wanted to say even though they don’t pertain to this
@@obama2747fat acceptance is not the same as abuse acceptance. Gtfo troll
This podcast has to be a prank right???? No way in hell did the smash-mouth guy say "endure an abusive relationship"....
Wish it was a prank... :/
dude youre SO so well spoken im impressed u humbled them so well
Hard to think these guys have ever had a mother
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@@cooliostarstache5474 real
was genuinely speechless when he told her to “just endure it”, wow
I stopped watching instantly. I hope they see that millions of people are clowning him and he should be fucking embarassed
Exactly where do you even begin?? How can I even convince someone so far gone
@@uglyrobot1975 You simply don't respect them enough to be worth convincing. I guess the jokes on him, cause he will have to endure the abuse of the internet now
He has 100% abused one or more of his partners before
so what, people should continue living their life in constant depression about one event in their potentially 80 years of human life? so we dont encourage them to not let incidents like these define them and not encourage them to continue the pursuit of happiness and being the best they can be? how is that at all beneficial for an abuse victim? we're not saying 'endure, its trivial and unimportant', we're saying 'endure, its not worth staying sad over because there's still so much beauty life can offer you which you should take advantage of'. everyone goes through shit, some worse than others, but who is the happiest is decided by who can get up from a bad situation and create something beautiful. to do with the dudes on the podcast, suit and tie guy and purple shirt i often disagree with. brian and chase i pretty much 100% agree with on most things. i am in support of traditional values and traditional roles of men and women and traditional familial values. i myself am also religious. i believe divorce should be a last resort to solving any problem in a marriage. however, if a relationship does get to a point where one or both parties experience constant abuse/one time abuse, i think a divorce should be done. its not healthy for the mother, father, and especially detrimental for the children if there are any. that being said, some abusive relationships can be avoided if you choose your partners wisely. if people took more responsibility, and took relationships as seriously as they should be taken, then there is less chance of ending up in an abusive relationship. when i say this also, i dont say that abuse victims deserve any abuse they may have received, no one does, im just saying there's a prevention method for this problem. (edit: yes, i stupidly wrote this comment b4 watching the actual video, im sorry about that)
That girl with the helmet in the back pressing all the emotes she has in her inventory
hearing someone strongly advocate for victims to 'endure' gives me every single negative emotion. i survived both psychological and physical and i would never want someone to experience any amount of what i went through. people DIE because of this idea that 'its just a phase' and 'its not that bad'. i was nowhere close to being potentially m-rder-d by my partner but this train of thought leads to people's deaths. genuinely one of the most horrific takes ive ever heard.
do not endure. LEAVE. save yourself/ your children. reach out for help - a good support network makes the biggest difference when trying to leave
I love that they’re like “this is so rare” and then also say “I know multiple people that have been in abusive families/ relationships”
I wouldnt be surprised if they are abusive to their partners
Just trying to minimalise everyone's point except their own
@@melinagoranson they 100% are.
100% they are abusive man children themselves
Abusive relationships are rare, their not the normal behaviour of humans. Doesn't mean you don't know someone it has happened too.
The way she ran circles around those dudes and they didnt even realize... hell those dudes are morons. Kudos to her.
Some of the dumbest dudes on earth. This is what happens when certain people want to argue and have a debate on literally everything
she didnt react ! thats why ! she just got them to expose themselves for the ingrates they are
honestly, it sounds like the guys in the podcast might be abusers if they are defending it so hard
“When a man chooses to be abusive, he breaks the covenant. An abusive man forfeits the right to remain married...” The third time the Bible commands divorce is in Ezra 9-10.
“You have to endure” and then later your spouse is then pronounced dead due to “enduring” the abuse, but divorce is the devil a sin, but going to jail for murder isn’t lmao I’m glad Charlie is pointing it out this lunacy from these boys
and how the concept of divorce for those guys is some type of schrodinger cat kind of shit where doesnt exist for abusive but does existe went the women cheats, tf?!
Lets also give credit to Destiny and Malena for getting them boys to walk into contradictions.
@@eligiobuscema6829 that was a brilliant way to explain that.
"For better or worse" doesn't include abuse. These guys would really like those extremist imams creating all sorts of made up religious rules to control women.
@@KLondike5 You're looking at the American Taliban.
Gotta love the framing of “giving up” when referring to someone divorcing because they’re getting physically abused lol. In fact that almost sounds like textbook manipulation. “Babe, I’m leaving! You’ve hit me 20 time today.” “So what? You’re giving up? I thought you were stronger than that?”
it actually upsets my stomach how horrible and manipulative that is
Like when Steven crowder tells his wife that she gives up to easy and trying everything for her to stay in the house.
Didn't that literally what happened in the leaked video of "change my mind" guy and his wife?
@@RandomStuff404s He looked to be emotionally abusive from the clip alone but not physical to my knowledge
I’ll be honest, I had a similar mindset growing up as a teen. I didn’t want giving up in friendships. I always thought it was possible to make through anything if we were honest and talked it out. I don’t think it’s the same mindset as what these people do, but it did take me years to realize just separating is fine and you can’t - sadly - always make any relationship work.
i'm convinced these people are social experiments
as someone who witnessed domestic violence between parents, divorce is definitely the lesser of the two. hell i was jumping for glee when they broke up for the first time
When charges were laid against my father and we went to trial, my family showed up and stood with him. Afterwards my own grandmother said to me “ how can you put your father in jail?” I just looked at her and said “ I didn’t, he did”
I broke the circle of abuse that occurred for generations and I would never tell someone to just “endure” 😡
I hope your father gets out and finds you. I really hope and I hope that he will make your belly swell after pumping you full with white milk. What you did is absolutely despicable
and how long do you have to wait for the phase to end and you all go back to normal 😂
That’s very courageous of you
That's a really important comeback. He put himself in prison. You didn't do anything
You did the right thing sadly my mother didn’t go through prison but I did get taken away from her still get shit in my birthday cards like “I miss you” and “I’m sorry” and “I’ve changed” they never change and I’m glad you stopped him
The first words out of this man's mouth... "Divorce is not a thing.." I'm legitimately speechless that in an age with so much knowledge and information widely available we still have people like this.
That guy's a theocrat. He meant "according to my religion" or "in the eyes of God you are always married to that person." Obviously in reality marriage is just an agreement and you literally can break the agreement, and stop being married
@@darkhorse381BS cope
@@darkhorse381 also good to note that not all religious people believes divorce is not a thing
@goldengucci2275 As a Christian myself, I can confirm this. God, in no way, tolerates abuse. It's a sin to do so. It's even right there in the Bible, clear as day, "Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them,". If someone is physically abusing their spouse, they've dishonored their wife, and their marriage, which dishonors God. Disrespectful on all accounts. Divorcing an abusive spouse is absolutely necessary in those situations, especially if they refuse to shape up, you have children or both.
@@nateb917your name is literally Nate
bro, what does he mean super nuanced. Have these people cracked a book, no not even, a fucking google search would tell u how extremely heartbreakingly common it is
There's a difference between hard times in a relationship, and being mentally and physically abused. If someone is gaslighting, manipulating, and full on hitting me in a relationship, that is not hard times, that's abuse.
My father told me a story from his job that relates to this topic. There was an elderly gentleman (in his late 70s) who came to the attention of the authorities after a health checkup. He had bruising and welts all over his legs, thighs and groin. At first he made up a variety of excuses and lies before eventually breaking down in tears and telling the truth. His wife, who travelled everywhere with him when he left the house always kept a set of pliers with her. If he did something to irritate or annoy her she used the pliers to grab the skin of his legs and violently twist. She even had a set in their car for that specific purpose. He had been married to this woman for over 50 years. Every time I hear someone surprised or shocked that men can and are abused in relationships this story comes to mind. Noone should EVER stay in an abusive relationship and the statement "Just endure!" makes me feel physically sick.
Oh my god that’s so fucking sad, poor man. I hope he’s doing okay now or was able to leave. He deserves to be happy and not fearful of the one who’s supposed to love him more than anyone else
I genuinely teared up. That poor man ! What kind of disgusting evil you have to be to do something that vile. Hope she was put in jail atleast ?
Am from India , so I have seen abuse in my own family Ofcourse but the absolute horrendous was that occurred in my servant quarters (we have one servant’s family live in the back rooms of our home). This man used to regularly beat the woman who was our helper. The man was unemployed and wasted all her earnings and one time when she refused, he took the hot rod (used for boiling water) and stuck it on her thigh. The absolute scream was animalistic. Not just that, he didn’t remove that rod it for quite some time. Her skin melted off, her thigh was blackened and pus formed when I saw it
@@anugyasingh9001 may he rot for his actions
That's absouletly awful 💔
I honestly just got divorced (April 28th) because of an abusive marriage. I am male. This was honestly the most hysterical crap I've heard in a while. Thanks for bringing this to light charlie lol.
Edit: HOLY CRAP THIS BLEW UP. to all asking if I'm in a better situation, yes I am thank you! This means a lot more to me than you all think. I've been pretty broken ever since it all started and I'm trying to piece myself back together. I've dealt with the abuse for almost 5 years and that shit changes you as a person. Thank you all for being so supportive and caring! I've put a lot of effort into rebuilding myself. I've finally landed a stable job I like (ride mechanic at a Major theme park), I've put a lot of effort into my twitch stream hobby and finally hit affiliate (come on by if you want I'm CasBasko on there too), things have been looking up this year and seeing all these people (2.1k likes?! Holy shit!!!) rooting for me really put things into perspective. I've blamed myself for everything that's happened to me for years. I somehow thought it was all my fault. It means so much to see you all here, thank you ❤️
i hope you're in a safer situation now. best of luck.
congrats and best of luck to you
Congrats!! I hope things have been going well since then. Abused men are all too often overlooked but I’m glad there’s increasing awareness. Really happy for you.
Men are abused more then women
Good for you
I've only watched until 1:26 and I'm already angry. "It is rare"? Rare my ass. I've seen this shit happen to so many women around me when I was little. My grandma got married in the 60's when she was around 20 with my grandpa who treated her perfectly for a year BEFORE my mom was born. Once she had the kid, he turned into a fucking monster. Once he KNEW that my grandma was perfectly locked into that situation (due to kids, the stupid society AND the weird laws of a then-communist country) he showed his true colors.
I've seen it happen not once, not twice but three times ONLY in my family. That is the reason why men scared me so much in the past. My dad wasn't as bad, but still wasn't good too. My aunt used to get beaten with my little niece still inside her. The poor little sweet girl has some problems and we're pretty sure it comes from that. Same shit, he treated her good UNTIL the kid came into play.
I swear to God I'd break the neck of anyone dismissing abuse victims like this. It's impossible to say "it is rare" because almost EVERYONE knows at least ONE case in their life, no matter how much luck they had. It gets to a point where if you say all this shit it's because you CHOOSE to not see it bcs it doesn't help your fucking narrative.
Yeah, I grew up abused for 13 years (sexually from my father, he abused my brother physically) and ppl told me that it wasn't bad and just "discipline" like.. molesting your daughter is.. discipline?? beating your son until he's numb is discipline??
@@rorokun2 What in the fuck? People call *that* "discipline"? What exactly has this world come to?
@@RandomInternetUser-yi5cc I'm curious, what did they say? I can't see other comment apart from yours so I guess someone deleted theirs lol
@GriffDidSomeThingsWrong OP said that their father beat up their brother almost every day for 10 years. OP also said that their father sexually assaulted them for 10 years as well, and people had the gall to make excuses for that behavior and even called it "discipline".
@@RandomInternetUser-yi5cc what the actual fuck.
ong these people need a reality check
abuse is not a phase, its a cycle, and it also is passed onto your kids. I loved the part where if a woman cheats they are triggered.
its so awful. as a kid who had to watch and sometimes experience the abuse from my father, it is a cycle and sometimes it weans and wanes but never just goes away. and it also manifests in kids different ways too. generational trauma has a play too. all around saddening.
Well said
They’re serving undereducated white, cisgender male privileged energy. It’s not cute boys. The guy in black and white looks like a referee but I’d be surprised if anyone in his life allowed him to call the shots.
theyre triggered because the rules are not supposed to be emplied to them.
why are they mad when a woman cheats? _"Just enduuuuure!"_
never seen so many braindead men in a room, they got me speechless. the lady asking the questions definitely knew what they were on, she asked the right questions to let everyone know that theyre insane.
The way you said that makes it sound like you have some kind of agenda lol
@@tedtheodore5715????
@@tedtheodore5715
What is the agenda behind your reply?
@@tedtheodore5715what? What does an agenda have to do with this 😂
Thats why they call it the manosphere, because its a safe space where this wackos can exist without being ridiculized by the whole room. Its like the whole room being elephants and not a single human in sight.
Johnathon prolly wants a new category in the ufc where married couples can just duke it out and beat the shit out of echother
lol
charlie looking like kratos with that beard💀💀🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
so im a male, my ex partner used to slap often and only when she tried pushing me down stairs did i leave. male abuse is real and im not weak for leaving
you need to ENDURE
Sorry that happened to you
You’re STRONG for leaving. It takes a lot to leave someone abusive. Glad you got out of that!
Yes king 👑!
Yes king 👑!
Dude really treated genuinely traumatizing, life changing abuse as if it was just a married couple arguing over who takes George to the soccer game
Another day, another devaluation of the word trauma, remember when trauma used to mean things like going through WWI, seeing people blown apart every day, or losing your entire family, or watching a loved one being tortured.
Now it's literally just "someone punched me" "someone calls me bad names" "I'm unhappy with my body image" "someone touched my pp"
But that's the culture of victimhood these days.
@@SergyMilitaryRankings Take your AR15 and lifted pickup truck and go back to the red states
@@KyrosTheWolf you said that like it was a burn lol
@@arbusthurmapoly6049 it is though. americans are fucking obsessed with trucks and guns
Ikr like that’s what I was thinking acting like abuse is arguing over who was supposed to take the trash out
"divorce is not a real thing" try claiming married on your taxes when you're divorced and find out just how wrong that statement is
Anyone else see the ghost next to that lunatic?
I think it’s a grudge situation.
Hope she gets him
Anybody know her name?
As a Christian, these guys do nothing to make Christianity look mighty. They disgrace my religion.
If you’re being abused, get away from the abuser. Don’t endure.
To be fair, every christian out there makes Christianity look bad. Same with every religion btw. This also is not saying non religious people are good, not at all. It just seems evil and ignorance go hand in hand with the religious bunch and yes, this goes for every place on the planet.
Well as a Christian what I was saying is that if a man is abusing his wife, he's not in a marriage. He's in abuse. Jesus says to love you wife as Christ loves the church as he gave himself up for her. That means to go through all the scriptures and handle things the way Jesus would.
Jesus wasn't a tyrant, controlling, manipulative, gaslighting idiot.
He let people make their choice and taught them. He let people have their freedom to choose. When he threw tables, he threw tables to protect the church. He didn't throw table at the church.
So men who abuse their spouses aren't in a marriage. They are in abuse. The women isn't divorcing a marriage. She's leaving abuse.
The bible also says women need to respect their husbands. There's no respect for an abuser.
A marriage is when a man loves his wife as Christ loves the church as he gave himself up for her and when a woman respects her husband. That's what an actual Christian marriage is.
These guys seem to not know what a marriage is according to Jesus.
As someone who was raised in a super Christian community I can tell you Christian’s do enough to disgrace themselves without these guys help
Thats even what the bible says in corinthians and other New Testament scriptures lmao
They forgot that to get married in Christianity you have to make a vow before God to honor, love, and take care of your spouse in sickness and in health, in good times and bad, forever. Abuse is an immediate betrayal of that vow to God and their spouse.
It’s not even cringe, it’s disturbing
Can it be both?
@@kat0na_catyea I’m saying both
It's just cringe lol
@@joeswanson2251 it's both
Agreed. I don't even understand why he was laughing at this. Maybe it's because he's a man but as a woman, this is disturbing af.
I'll admit, I've finally found a Charlie video that I cannot watch through all the way. Just 10 seconds into that podcast killed the brain cells I had left
The dude in suit got real defensive real quick
The endure guy actually has multiple charges of physical assault and got charged with bottling a woman in the face in a nightclub in Japan.... it's fucked and the victim refuses to speak about it cause how traumatized she is 😢
Makes sense
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Lol
Bump
They think abortion is violent but then when a woman asks if a man is violently beating their partner to death is bad or not they go “meh, that’s not that bad” “probably just a rough patch”.
They don’t see women as people, but they see unborn children as future sons to carry on their name or some stupid shit like that.
@@ascendednightingale2456I don’t even think they see the foetuses as people, they just hate that women are able to make the choice to abort or not
@serenacelestine nah the other comment was right, it's the name thing. Plus we don't wanna wipe a baby girl and get doodoo down there. (I have a daughter so I kinda know what I'm on about)
@@ascendednightingale2456literally no need to put down the very real idea of your child being the legacy of you and your family just to point out the blatant and deep misogyny these guys exhibit. missing the real problems.
Both are bad
Dude in the suit has never been punched is exactly why he’s so confidently drooling this garbage outta his holster.
every fucking take you have is so on point. I appreciate you so much for making this content.
My dad hit my mom, my older brother, my grandmother and myself. My parents divorced and I was never more thankful. I want these idiots to be stuck in a simulation of an abusive childhood for the rest of their lives
I watch “alpha male” podcasts but that thing as your dad really needs help and be investigated on.
Your dad was beating the whole bloodline huh
@tyelencolon1228You just have to endure
They would never understand because they lived in privilege and you can hear it in every word they said.