Such a GOAT reviewer! Doing so much for the gaming / audiophile community with "only" 79k subs. This channel should have MKBHD level of subscribers for sure! Keep it up if possible!
From all of the reviewers Ive seen you are my favourite! Hope your channel grows further. Please Keep up the reviews related to gaming headphones and audiophile headsets for gaming! :)
Looks really nice! The $400 price tag holds it back imo because of what else is out there such as the Maxwell or some normal headphones for that matter. Great work as always Joe!
This is such an outstanding review. I can see that you put a lot of time and effort to make this video. You covered basically everything that was possible for those two! Sub is a total no brainer. Looking forward for more!
@ you deserve it 100%! I am currently using Sennheiser HD660S, but because of the open-ear system I need to switch to closed headphones (too much noise is coming out). Deciding between Kraken v4 and Blackshark v2 pro (2023) since I also prefer the wireless. Probably will go for the Kraken, thanks to you. Guess they sound (a little) better then BS2023
Havent watched yet but im so stoked your are reviewing these. Im a sucker for this haptic stuff lol. I dont want to drop 400 unless they're really good
Every video i just sit there waiting for you to say whether the headset has simultaneous audio or not with my fingers crossed hoping that finally well get a new good implementation worth spending on
They are quite pricey at $400, but they offer quite a lot too. DAC, RGB, haptics, good sounds, bluetooth and PC at the same time, comfort, excellent build, etc. This aren't audiophile headphones, this are gaming headphones and so far the pnoy ones to offer all a gamer could want. If you want just great audio just look somewhere else.
sound from the kraken v4 is absolutely terrible adn the people at razer who design teh eq settings need a reality check.Not worthy of the asking price.Terrible headset with terrible audio.
amazing review!! i'm still deciding to go with the v4 or the new barracuda chroma and i would love if you could make a review of them both and also not deciding to go with the razer v4 its because i been reading reviews and they say that they sometimes had problems with connectivity on pc and bluetooth
You make hands down the best headset reviews! Every video is just a pleasure to watch! Do you still think the Turtle Beach Stealth Pro is the best headset for Call of Duty or whats your number 1 recommendation for primarily CoD and overall your favorite gaming headset?
I never clicked so fast on a review on any headset, my personal opinion ... if they were ~ 200 euro (210 USD) sure but that much money I will rather try my luck with the 4th Maxwell and I have seen some people saying that "the v4 pro feel cheap for that much money"
how does custom flat preset measure? as that wasn't stated in the review as thats the true frequency response of the headset without eq applied. All other presets have pre applied eq
Thanks for an honest review. I thought this would be a biased review (like others). Worst MIC performance for a flagship unit. Audeze Maxwell still has a better MIC and cheaper too (on sale at $220 right now on Audeze annual event).
Man…and I once thought A50 was the top. Seems like they’ve went in a direction that doesn’t support my situation. I’m very intrigued by how cozy they look. Watching meow to see if it has those quirks and features in on the hunt fer😊
considering the v4 pros are very similar to the astro a50x in terms of price range, which do you think is better? Haven't watched the full review yet but I recently swapped to the astro a50x after watching your review on it despite having been using razer headphones for years now so i'd like to know. Great content as always! Edit: Why does the standard V4 microphone sound way better than the Pros? Aren't they using the same mic? I'm confused
Bought the Kraken V4 and returned 2hrs later. Maybe I had a defective unit but my microphone echoed out of the box on my PS5 and I couldn't remedy it in Synapse. The 40mm drivers sounded like crap compared to the Blackshark V2 Pro. Then the kicker was they simply were too big for my smaller head Even on the smallest setting they moved all around and fell off whenever I moved my head. Never experienced that with any other headset I've tried.
The eco from the mic is actually an option of the headset you can manage from the dac to reduce or remove it but yeah I’m returning them too, they sound so shit compared to anything I’ve ever had. Really disappointed.
I went with sennheiser 660s cans. Got a fio11 RTR amp/dac. Ive tried most of the higher end blue tooth headphones. All of them have been disappointing and a waste of money. Im very pleased with my setup. I went with a quadcast 2 for the mic.
as usual, it seems gaming companies cannot do sound well and just charge extra for... features. sigh. even in late 2024 there really is not much of an alternative to audiophile headphone + mic (desk or wire/clip on). maxwell exists but thats from an audiophile company to begin with and even then, complaints about its lack of comfort exist. Also from experience, build quality has been much better on proper audiophile headphones that deliver the sound for less money
Thanks for the review, as always. When You mention other headsets, especially mic, why did You stop mentioning Corsair HS80 Max. Do You still consider it a decent option, especially if it is possible to get them for 150US/EUR during promotions?
I´ve got the V4 pro for free for a test last month. Directly at the beginning the mic didn´t work. I´ve tried it on three PCs (with Windows and Linux). Now I will get a new headset. Hope the mic will work this time.
At $400 they couldn’t do a usb connection for Xbox? That’s really lame considering that RIG and the a50x both are able to connect over the dac, and the Nova Pro wireless with dac also connects to Xbox and PC just fine. This was a huge miss. That sucks
Good review as always Joe! Hell to the no no, razer is smoking crack to think this is worth 400, that mic is pure ass, they should have shit canned the box and gave us a better mic in my opinion. Have fun sitting on all that inventory :D So far i'v stuck with my black shark v2 pro (2023) for comfort and mic, footsteps are very good on this headset and surprised me to me honest, iv tried a lot of headsets that sound better with music and movies but ultimately sent them all back because they were the same or a lot worse for hearing footsteps in games, also while being more uncomfortable for long sessions. I also have the Turtle Beach Stealth Pro but man ny ears get spicy in them and cant wear them long term, they are great for foot steps and music/movies but spicy and forget about swapping pads for them, if you do bye bye to all bass and EQ does not fix it and makes them sound like trash. A50 gen 5 could have been the one if.....they made the pads bigger for my ears to fit into them instead of sitting on them and i have small ears! Also they sound dark, even after EQ foot steps are hard to hear compared to my 2 other headsets i mentioned, i used them only for a couple of hours and reboxed them and sent them back, they were getting me killed in pubg lol. Maxwell is still the champ on sound quality to me, but like Joe says, not the best for completive fps, everything else they will make you grin! For now i guess ill just keep my black sharks and hope they make the next BS without the stupid gimmick triforce puke, if you want to spit up the bass and treble i dont think thats the way to go, planar or at most a two driver design. I want tight textured bass and keep the cloth pads, no loose flappy buttcheek bass. I'am considering purchasing the Asus Delta 2 again, i only sent it back because i got hyped for another let down the Turtle beach 700 gen 3, the deta 2 sounds amazing for its cost and the mic is just as good to me as the black shark and its simultaneous Bluetooth! for 220!
@@VarjoPira Sure multi-task as if everyone needs that. They're sacrificing audio quality for those extra features resulting in higher price tag with lower quality and performance.
Totally agree I have Fiio k11 amp ft3s jt1s epos h3 epos h6 pro open backs that’s 400 spent and blows away this crap for 400… headphones are for listening to sound , I don’t care about excuses and pointless crap
Because it's just that much more convenient. After trying a wireless mouse, I never went back to wired mice. Losing the cord mean that much. And that's just for a mouse, which is never actually going to be leaving the computer area. For a headset, the difference isn't even comparable. Having the ability to still have your music playing seamlessly as you get up and go use the restroom or something, and/or still be able to hear your friends as you run and pick up the laundry real fast while gaming (again with music still going)... it's just a huge difference. Or if I'm in the office and I need to get up and grab a coffee. The missed opportunity here is that I'm surprised there isn't a bigger market for a simple tiny wireless DAC/AMP/receiver that you can tuck onto a pair of headphones you choose, paired with a dongle that talks to it. With a detachable mic, you can have the best of both worlds, and it's going to be less fragile since it's modular. But I just haven't really heard about that being researched much, and it baffles me.
Thanks for this detailed video, I was looking for something like this! This definitely made me wanna go for the Razer Kraken V4 (hopefully it's on sale during Black Friday) Do you use the same EQ cutom settings as shown in the video when using THX?
Returning and keeping the v3 pro that got for $130 new. V4 pro is cool and I wouldve kept if the left ear wouldn't pop like a mfer 2 dif ones did it. Got v3 pro see and the haptics are on par with the nari im talking about bass ear tickle rumble v4 pro didnt really do that as it had alot of sound leakage and 40mm driver so needless say v3 pro already better in my book.
Question: Which headphone would be better overall for casual gaming, music and movies? In terms of value, comfort and sound between the Audeze Maxwell and the Hifiman Edition XS? The maxwell are 330$ and the Hifiman Edition XS are 360$ where i live.
I'm hoping to see some StealhZ earpads for the blackshark v2 pro 2023. I love the headset but some thick velour pads... Oh man. Hope you gonna make it for the V2 pro 2023.
So in your opinion is it a beast or a bust? Does the high price impact your opinion. If its was priced the same as nova pro or a50x would you recommend it over those headsets? Forgot the maxwell might have the best sound quality but the drivers fail if you look at them wrong. I went thru 2 maxwells in a short period of time (both ended up with crinkling/popping sound) having the best sound quality doesnt matter if they are not durable and dont hold up to regular everyday gaming use. Maxwell is the Most fragile gaming headset on the market maybe their next iteration will be perfect but id avoid maxwell unless your ok with buying a new pair every year
The EQ's you showed, should I use that over the ones you had recommended for V2 Pro 2023? I have the V2 Pro 2023. If not, what is the best EQ for FPS games where footsteps are important?
When I use the headset on PS5, my friends say that there is a repetition of the sound when they talk. Is there a solution for the Razer Kraken V4 headset?
Planning on looking at the fiio ka15? It has uac1 support for switch and ps and the best feature is parametric EQ which is web based so maybe a good dac/Amp for gaming?
Been searching for a new headset for my Xbox but I feel like nothing checks all my boxes. Like being wireless with simultaneous Bluetooth, game to chat mix wheel, volume and chat mixer wheels have hard start and stop point, headset is moderately comfortable, decent mic and comparable sound quality to Audeze Maxwell for under $500. I don’t care about noise cancellation as I game in my man cave so there is no outside noise I need to block out. I think I might actually prefer an open back headset but that’s even harder to find for a “gaming” headset
I’m sure Razer has employed a lot of people with mental health or existing people working there have developed a lot of mental health. They’ve lost their minds. They’ve been using the same old triforce drivers for years and to release a headset at £400 with nothing new is ridiculous. If you’re going to charge £400 for a gaming headset, it needs to be literally the most amazing product on the market. You’ve Audeze Maxwell at £300 and that has outstanding sound quality, SteelSeries Nova has great sound quality, even the HyperX Cloud 3 Wireless has really good sound quality at £150 and let’s not forget that for £400 you can buy an super quality studio headphone with an amp/dac I reckon Razer will only sell maximum 10 units of the V4 Pro and they’ll understand how much of a big mistake they’ve made
Hey man, I’ve really been liking your videos and love the advice you provide. Just wondering if there’s a way I’m able to ask you a question about some settings for my eq settings? Do you have a discord where we’re able to have a chat with you? Or just through TH-cam commenting?
GadgetryTech Hello. A bit offtopic but after seeing a clip from you with the review of the Epos H6pro, I bought a pair ( open version) and was wondering if you have some EQ profile for them. Stock I find the sound to be kind of muddy. Using a Fiio e10K dac.
That 3.5mm on the control hub for a goxlr and mic monitoring zero latency had me waiting for a legit review No mix audio at that price is a big L for the pro.
When you need "features" to get bass, in general, is not it. For that cost, there are better, non-gimmicky, options out there. Hell, there are better headphone and separate mics options.
I’m currently considering either the Kraken v4, Logitech G Pro X 2 or Delta 2. Which would you recommend for music, movies, casual gaming and with good comfort? Or maybe something else, that might be better?
I've had the Logitech G Pro X 2 & ROG Delta 2. Out of those two, easily the ROG Delta 2. Better audio, insane battery. I found the headband lacked cushioning, but they are lightweight. I find the G Pro X2 uncomfortable. The ear pads and headband become uncomfortable. Plus I don't like the thin bass of graphine drivers. I also sent back the Alienware Pro wireless for the same reason. I am tempted to try the Kraken V4. I find the extra comfort appealing. I'm not fussed on the haptics of the Pro version.
@ Did you only used gHub with Pro X2 to EQ them? It only has a 5 band EQ and doesn’t go really down there, so I hoped the bass delivery would be better if I used a 10 band EQ like Dolby atmos. You could also try the ASUS Pelta, it seems really similar spec wise to the Delta 2 and they have a floating headband, they also only cost 150€ here but I never seen a review about them :( I’m currently also considering the Turtle beach stealth 700 gen3, since they are on sale for 130€ but they are also heavy and turtle beach products always have many issues.
@Bocchii I now have the Kraken V4. The mic isn't as bad as some suggest. I speak with friends and they don't complain. It does the job. I don't get the fascination with mic's. The audio & comfort are most important. That's where the V4 excels. I would say the audio is on a par with the Delta 2, though the latter has a wider soundstage - mostly because those ear pads are so thick, your ears are far away from the drivers. Especially using the leather ear pads. The best sounding headset is still the Maxwell. But they're too damn heavy and uncomfortable. Plus the bass on those, along with graphene drivers, just lack that thump. I'm not a fan. I've never tried haptics on a headset before. So I'm mildly curious if it's just a gimmick? £380 for a headset is a lot though. I'm not a big fan of base stations either. I much prefer a discreet dongle. I didn't EQ the G Pro X2. The bass wouldn't change it's characteristics, no matter how much I increased it. Graphene drivers do remind me of planar magnetic in that respect.
Avoid the kraken like the plague they are absolutely awful,had them 10 minutes ended up sending them back,no way was i paying for a headset like that.The arctis nova pro wireless are really good,but avoid The krakens.
Razer is the monster cable of the PC market. Overpriced crap that always has better options for the price. I've owned two products from them and both broke too soon.
Every video you keep surprising me with your professional reviews and for sure your personal opinions that I do take by for sure. I'm looking for a headset within the price range of 125$ such as the following headsets and lower, which headset would you recommend for me in that price range for movies, music, and mixed gaming SP/MP games? Epos H6 Pro Closed Back Steelseries Nova 4/3/1/Prime Turtle Beach Stealth 500 Gen 3 / 600 Gen 3 / 600 Gen 2 Max Razer Blackshark V2 / V2 Hyperspeed Razer Kraken V3 X / V3 / V3 Hypersense / V4 X HyperX Cloud 3 / Alpha / Alpha S / Alpha Pro Logitech G Pro X 2nd Gen Beyerdynamic MMX 150 Astro A40 Corsait HS80 / 80 Wireless / 65 / 55 One last option I have is the FiiO JT1 which I can buy with a seperate mic as the VModa Boom Pro or a standalone mic like the fifine AM8 If your answer is the H6 Pros, would you recommend the closed back version as my room is a bit noisy so I can't get open backs? Note: the H6 Pro and the JT1 are on sale that's why I considered it actually. Also Even though I'd love a wireless headset but I'm trying to stay away from wireless unless it has a wired option due to my doctor's instructions.
Sonar is more powerful, but at the expense of more overhead. You still need Synapse to control everything else, and I think the EQ on Synapse does a good enough job to make it sound good. This is one of the few cases where I think the 10 band EQ is enough for these models.
It tied everything I could to make it better. Razer advertises ultra wideband mic support with 32 bit, but Windows only shows 24 bit with no option to change. So it’s either a 32 bit back end, and USB is at 24 from the DAC to host, or the driver is messed up and doesn’t allow me to select what it’s capable of
FINALLY I was searching for this last night lol I want to see Razer rise up and get to turtle beach level They need to make the blacksharks with leatherpads and give it more power/volume and maybe add a reflector or something and give it some sound chamber capability.
I was impressed when i bought the Shark V2, box, cables... but sound was not my type, but 400$ with this mic quality? Sometimes I think is something really wrong who decide things in companies, makes no sense. Man if they price this 400$ we expect perfection, otherwise make it 199$. Strange.
Finally a good review! I've been waiting and hoping you'd get your hands on these ever since they launched. Thank you! so the real question now is how do the v4 pro's haptic motors compare to the nari ultimate? Has anyone tested both? The drivers should be a lot better than the nari, but how's the headshakers
Anyone have random pops in left ear not bad but weird im on pc. Well i jus thought about that it autoconnects to my phone through bluetooth so it connect to pc and phone at same time so might have something to do with it
You rather buy the arctis nova pro wireless, it's way better and it's 350, but you can get it for 250 in the USA only. Razor just made a worse version, the arctis nova pro wireless has no rgb so you can wear it out without people looking at you.
I'm watching this review knowing I'm never going to use a Razer product again because I just enjoy the quality of the videos you make lol it's the synapse software... that ish is like malware man It's awful.
If you are only on PS5 the Astro A50 Gen 5 are a better option than the A50X and cheaper. If you mainly play FPS then the Turtle Beach Stealth Pro have to be considered. Can hear things so easily with them just using the default Signature Sound
I had nova pro and it was nice for playing CoD in case of sound quality but, it was super uncomfortable for my ears so I returned them. Then I got kraken v4 pro, still not super comfortable but it's acceptable. However, the sound quality is so amazing for me and I fell in love with haptic, man in CoD it's so nice to have this feature, highly recommend to try it.
I got the Kraken V4 Pro and I love them. The haptic feedback is like a DualSense controller on your ears. It really does add to the experience. I use on low setting and dynamic for music. I use balanced for games. The audio is great. Very comfortable and super premium. Yes, they're expensive at £379.99, but I have no regrets. The most exciting bit of tech I've used in years.
@GadgetryTech thank you for reply, I have around 200 UK pounds to buy a decent headset for just my xbox as I don't have a pc and well its a minefield out here lol your vids are definitely the best at helping me find the best for me, thank you.
I could get the pros for 260€, but the number of games that have dedicated support for haptics is 3 and none truly benefit from it imo. I’ll just wait a year to get them at 150€ if they get more games to support it
I think it depends on what you play. In mild form, it can be fun. I think some people will be more or less sensitive to it as well. I had trouble with FPS games because the gunfire and explosions were non stop so it became a little fatiguing to me.
Good sir, audio technica apos ath-r70x refine review when? :D Nice vid! Why do you keep making me open my wallet xD jokes aside thank you for the objective reviews! Also budget banger dac amp tier list?
Such a GOAT reviewer! Doing so much for the gaming / audiophile community with "only" 79k subs. This channel should have MKBHD level of subscribers for sure! Keep it up if possible!
We need to get you 100k subs asap. You're too good.
@@pwd1134 I can’t believe it’s getting as close as it is!
Thank you so much sticking with my v3 pros
Amazing review. 400$ for that ? Razer need a reality check.
Logitech and Corsair too
Razer what crack are you smoking? 🚭
From all of the reviewers Ive seen you are my favourite! Hope your channel grows further. Please Keep up the reviews related to gaming headphones and audiophile headsets for gaming! :)
I’ve tried all of these headsets that he mentioned and I still think the Arctis Nova Pro Wireless is the best overall for gaming!!
I was waiting for this video, tons of TH-camrs recommend them but definitely I’ll keep my aune ar5000. Thanks for this honest review
LOL the Aune is probably miles better anyway. I got the 4.4 copper cable for mine, good stuff.
@ I also have it, which Dac do you have ? Mine a fiio k7
Missed opportunity to start with a "Let's get krakkin'. "
Awesome review Joe! Are the pads removable and would the V4 pads fit on the V4 Pro?
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Thanks! They are both removable and interchangeable. Sorry for not stating this in the video!
@ Nice! I’m curious if you put the V4 pads on the V4 pro how would that change the comfort n sound?
right in time for a lunch break watch :)
Looks really nice! The $400 price tag holds it back imo because of what else is out there such as the Maxwell or some normal headphones for that matter. Great work as always Joe!
This is such an outstanding review. I can see that you put a lot of time and effort to make this video. You covered basically everything that was possible for those two! Sub is a total no brainer. Looking forward for more!
@@RinCalibur thank you so much for the kind words! I appreciate it
@ you deserve it 100%!
I am currently using Sennheiser HD660S, but because of the open-ear system I need to switch to closed headphones (too much noise is coming out).
Deciding between Kraken v4 and Blackshark v2 pro (2023) since I also prefer the wireless. Probably will go for the Kraken, thanks to you. Guess they sound (a little) better then BS2023
Havent watched yet but im so stoked your are reviewing these. Im a sucker for this haptic stuff lol. I dont want to drop 400 unless they're really good
Every video i just sit there waiting for you to say whether the headset has simultaneous audio or not with my fingers crossed hoping that finally well get a new good implementation worth spending on
They are quite pricey at $400, but they offer quite a lot too. DAC, RGB, haptics, good sounds, bluetooth and PC at the same time, comfort, excellent build, etc. This aren't audiophile headphones, this are gaming headphones and so far the pnoy ones to offer all a gamer could want. If you want just great audio just look somewhere else.
just picked up the v3 pro. Liking it so far
How does the sound quality compare to the Blackshark V2 Pro 2023?? Knowing that it cost basically 200$ more.
It doesn’t sound $200 better. You are paying more for features than sound improvement
sound from the kraken v4 is absolutely terrible adn the people at razer who design teh eq settings need a reality check.Not worthy of the asking price.Terrible headset with terrible audio.
Wonderful Joe. Thanks as always.
amazing review!! i'm still deciding to go with the v4 or the new barracuda chroma and i would love if you could make a review of them both and also not deciding to go with the razer v4 its because i been reading reviews and they say that they sometimes had problems with connectivity on pc and bluetooth
You make hands down the best headset reviews! Every video is just a pleasure to watch!
Do you still think the Turtle Beach Stealth Pro is the best headset for Call of Duty or whats your number 1 recommendation for primarily CoD and overall your favorite gaming headset?
I never clicked so fast on a review on any headset, my personal opinion ... if they were ~ 200 euro (210 USD) sure but that much money I will rather try my luck with the 4th Maxwell and I have seen some people saying that "the v4 pro feel cheap for that much money"
how does custom flat preset measure? as that wasn't stated in the review as thats the true frequency response of the headset without eq applied. All other presets have pre applied eq
Thanks for an honest review. I thought this would be a biased review (like others). Worst MIC performance for a flagship unit. Audeze Maxwell still has a better MIC and cheaper too (on sale at $220 right now on Audeze annual event).
I can’t trust Razer with $400. But thank you for this video
Man…and I once thought A50 was the top. Seems like they’ve went in a direction that doesn’t support my situation. I’m very intrigued by how cozy they look. Watching meow to see if it has those quirks and features in on the hunt fer😊
considering the v4 pros are very similar to the astro a50x in terms of price range, which do you think is better? Haven't watched the full review yet but I recently swapped to the astro a50x after watching your review on it despite having been using razer headphones for years now so i'd like to know. Great content as always!
Edit: Why does the standard V4 microphone sound way better than the Pros? Aren't they using the same mic? I'm confused
Bought the Kraken V4 and returned 2hrs later. Maybe I had a defective unit but my microphone echoed out of the box on my PS5 and I couldn't remedy it in Synapse. The 40mm drivers sounded like crap compared to the Blackshark V2 Pro. Then the kicker was they simply were too big for my smaller head
Even on the smallest setting they moved all around and fell off whenever I moved my head. Never experienced that with any other headset I've tried.
The eco from the mic is actually an option of the headset you can manage from the dac to reduce or remove it but yeah I’m returning them too, they sound so shit compared to anything I’ve ever had. Really disappointed.
Thanks man for the video, I was missing the chat mix option on the hub and was wondering how to have it since it's been advertised in razer's website.
Looks like the SteelSeries Arctis Nova Pro!
I went with sennheiser 660s cans. Got a fio11 RTR amp/dac. Ive tried most of the higher end blue tooth headphones. All of them have been disappointing and a waste of money. Im very pleased with my setup. I went with a quadcast 2 for the mic.
11:51 it was at this moment that I completely ruled out buying this headset
NICE Review
Gonna review the noble fokus?
as usual, it seems gaming companies cannot do sound well and just charge extra for... features. sigh. even in late 2024 there really is not much of an alternative to audiophile headphone + mic (desk or wire/clip on). maxwell exists but thats from an audiophile company to begin with and even then, complaints about its lack of comfort exist. Also from experience, build quality has been much better on proper audiophile headphones that deliver the sound for less money
Hey , do you plan to review Ziigaat Arcadia or Odyssey?
Thanks for the review, as always. When You mention other headsets, especially mic, why did You stop mentioning Corsair HS80 Max. Do You still consider it a decent option, especially if it is possible to get them for 150US/EUR during promotions?
I´ve got the V4 pro for free for a test last month. Directly at the beginning the mic didn´t work. I´ve tried it on three PCs (with Windows and Linux). Now I will get a new headset. Hope the mic will work this time.
Test for who i might ask? How do you get into company sending stuff?
At $400 they couldn’t do a usb connection for Xbox? That’s really lame considering that RIG and the a50x both are able to connect over the dac, and the Nova Pro wireless with dac also connects to Xbox and PC just fine. This was a huge miss. That sucks
Good review as always Joe! Hell to the no no, razer is smoking crack to think this is worth 400, that mic is pure ass, they should have shit canned the box and gave us a better mic in my opinion. Have fun sitting on all that inventory :D So far i'v stuck with my black shark v2 pro (2023) for comfort and mic, footsteps are very good on this headset and surprised me to me honest, iv tried a lot of headsets that sound better with music and movies but ultimately sent them all back because they were the same or a lot worse for hearing footsteps in games, also while being more uncomfortable for long sessions. I also have the Turtle Beach Stealth Pro but man ny ears get spicy in them and cant wear them long term, they are great for foot steps and music/movies but spicy and forget about swapping pads for them, if you do bye bye to all bass and EQ does not fix it and makes them sound like trash. A50 gen 5 could have been the one if.....they made the pads bigger for my ears to fit into them instead of sitting on them and i have small ears! Also they sound dark, even after EQ foot steps are hard to hear compared to my 2 other headsets i mentioned, i used them only for a couple of hours and reboxed them and sent them back, they were getting me killed in pubg lol. Maxwell is still the champ on sound quality to me, but like Joe says, not the best for completive fps, everything else they will make you grin! For now i guess ill just keep my black sharks and hope they make the next BS without the stupid gimmick triforce puke, if you want to spit up the bass and treble i dont think thats the way to go, planar or at most a two driver design. I want tight textured bass and keep the cloth pads, no loose flappy buttcheek bass. I'am considering purchasing the Asus Delta 2 again, i only sent it back because i got hyped for another let down the Turtle beach 700 gen 3, the deta 2 sounds amazing for its cost and the mic is just as good to me as the black shark and its simultaneous Bluetooth! for 220!
Any updates on the g8 review?
For 250 dollars, You Can buy a fiio ft1 with a ZEN Dac air, why gamers care about wireless too much!
Not really. The convenience is quite notable where it matters. It's not a deal breaker, but if you multi-task a lot, it is a BIG nice-to-have.
@@VarjoPira Sure multi-task as if everyone needs that. They're sacrificing audio quality for those extra features resulting in higher price tag with lower quality and performance.
Totally agree I have Fiio k11 amp ft3s jt1s epos h3 epos h6 pro open backs that’s 400 spent and blows away this crap for 400… headphones are for listening to sound , I don’t care about excuses and pointless crap
Because it's just that much more convenient. After trying a wireless mouse, I never went back to wired mice. Losing the cord mean that much. And that's just for a mouse, which is never actually going to be leaving the computer area. For a headset, the difference isn't even comparable. Having the ability to still have your music playing seamlessly as you get up and go use the restroom or something, and/or still be able to hear your friends as you run and pick up the laundry real fast while gaming (again with music still going)... it's just a huge difference. Or if I'm in the office and I need to get up and grab a coffee.
The missed opportunity here is that I'm surprised there isn't a bigger market for a simple tiny wireless DAC/AMP/receiver that you can tuck onto a pair of headphones you choose, paired with a dongle that talks to it. With a detachable mic, you can have the best of both worlds, and it's going to be less fragile since it's modular. But I just haven't really heard about that being researched much, and it baffles me.
@@xshadowinxbc This. It's like switching from 1080p to 1440p. Once you make the transition, what you had formerly will ALWAYS feel awkward.
Thanks for this detailed video, I was looking for something like this! This definitely made me wanna go for the Razer Kraken V4 (hopefully it's on sale during Black Friday)
Do you use the same EQ cutom settings as shown in the video when using THX?
Returning and keeping the v3 pro that got for $130 new. V4 pro is cool and I wouldve kept if the left ear wouldn't pop like a mfer 2 dif ones did it. Got v3 pro see and the haptics are on par with the nari im talking about bass ear tickle rumble v4 pro didnt really do that as it had alot of sound leakage and 40mm driver so needless say v3 pro already better in my book.
Question: Which headphone would be better overall for casual gaming, music and movies? In terms of value, comfort and sound between the Audeze Maxwell and the Hifiman Edition XS?
The maxwell are 330$ and the Hifiman Edition XS are 360$ where i live.
I'm hoping to see some StealhZ earpads for the blackshark v2 pro 2023. I love the headset but some thick velour pads... Oh man. Hope you gonna make it for the V2 pro 2023.
So in your opinion is it a beast or a bust? Does the high price impact your opinion. If its was priced the same as nova pro or a50x would you recommend it over those headsets? Forgot the maxwell might have the best sound quality but the drivers fail if you look at them wrong. I went thru 2 maxwells in a short period of time (both ended up with crinkling/popping sound) having the best sound quality doesnt matter if they are not durable and dont hold up to regular everyday gaming use. Maxwell is the Most fragile gaming headset on the market maybe their next iteration will be perfect but id avoid maxwell unless your ok with buying a new pair every year
The EQ's you showed, should I use that over the ones you had recommended for V2 Pro 2023? I have the V2 Pro 2023. If not, what is the best EQ for FPS games where footsteps are important?
Which is better the Kraken V4 or the BlackShark V2 Pro?
When I use the headset on PS5, my friends say that there is a repetition of the sound when they talk. Is there a solution for the Razer Kraken V4 headset?
Planning on looking at the fiio ka15? It has uac1 support for switch and ps and the best feature is parametric EQ which is web based so maybe a good dac/Amp for gaming?
Been searching for a new headset for my Xbox but I feel like nothing checks all my boxes. Like being wireless with simultaneous Bluetooth, game to chat mix wheel, volume and chat mixer wheels have hard start and stop point, headset is moderately comfortable, decent mic and comparable sound quality to Audeze Maxwell for under $500. I don’t care about noise cancellation as I game in my man cave so there is no outside noise I need to block out. I think I might actually prefer an open back headset but that’s even harder to find for a “gaming” headset
Hello brother, would you tell me the model of the headphone stand you're using with the V4 Pro in this video? Thanks
I’m sure Razer has employed a lot of people with mental health or existing people working there have developed a lot of mental health. They’ve lost their minds. They’ve been using the same old triforce drivers for years and to release a headset at £400 with nothing new is ridiculous. If you’re going to charge £400 for a gaming headset, it needs to be literally the most amazing product on the market. You’ve Audeze Maxwell at £300 and that has outstanding sound quality, SteelSeries Nova has great sound quality, even the HyperX Cloud 3 Wireless has really good sound quality at £150 and let’s not forget that for £400 you can buy an super quality studio headphone with an amp/dac
I reckon Razer will only sell maximum 10 units of the V4 Pro and they’ll understand how much of a big mistake they’ve made
Hey man, I’ve really been liking your videos and love the advice you provide. Just wondering if there’s a way I’m able to ask you a question about some settings for my eq settings? Do you have a discord where we’re able to have a chat with you? Or just through TH-cam commenting?
you shoud check out Sennheiser 300 pro for an oustanding cheap closed back that sounds holografic and natural
Which ones better these ones or the Alienware pro headset
how about the Logitech G Astro A50 (Gen 5) ?
GadgetryTech Hello. A bit offtopic but after seeing a clip from you with the review of the Epos H6pro, I bought a pair ( open version) and was wondering if you have some EQ profile for them. Stock I find the sound to be kind of muddy. Using a Fiio e10K dac.
So rog delta Corsair. V max or Astro a50x if all were same price what has best sound and mic for BO6 what would you choose
That 3.5mm on the control hub for a goxlr and mic monitoring zero latency had me waiting for a legit review
No mix audio at that price is a big L for the pro.
Are you gonna review the astro a50 5th gen?
When you need "features" to get bass, in general, is not it. For that cost, there are better, non-gimmicky, options out there. Hell, there are better headphone and separate mics options.
I’m currently considering either the Kraken v4, Logitech G Pro X 2 or Delta 2. Which would you recommend for music, movies, casual gaming and with good comfort?
Or maybe something else, that might be better?
Same here, i wonder how the v4 is compared to the Delta 2.
I've had the Logitech G Pro X 2 & ROG Delta 2. Out of those two, easily the ROG Delta 2. Better audio, insane battery. I found the headband lacked cushioning, but they are lightweight. I find the G Pro X2 uncomfortable. The ear pads and headband become uncomfortable. Plus I don't like the thin bass of graphine drivers. I also sent back the Alienware Pro wireless for the same reason.
I am tempted to try the Kraken V4. I find the extra comfort appealing. I'm not fussed on the haptics of the Pro version.
@ Did you only used gHub with Pro X2 to EQ them? It only has a 5 band EQ and doesn’t go really down there, so I hoped the bass delivery would be better if I used a 10 band EQ like Dolby atmos.
You could also try the ASUS Pelta, it seems really similar spec wise to the Delta 2 and they have a floating headband, they also only cost 150€ here but I never seen a review about them :(
I’m currently also considering the Turtle beach stealth 700 gen3, since they are on sale for 130€ but they are also heavy and turtle beach products always have many issues.
@Bocchii I now have the Kraken V4. The mic isn't as bad as some suggest. I speak with friends and they don't complain. It does the job. I don't get the fascination with mic's. The audio & comfort are most important. That's where the V4 excels. I would say the audio is on a par with the Delta 2, though the latter has a wider soundstage - mostly because those ear pads are so thick, your ears are far away from the drivers. Especially using the leather ear pads.
The best sounding headset is still the Maxwell. But they're too damn heavy and uncomfortable. Plus the bass on those, along with graphene drivers, just lack that thump. I'm not a fan.
I've never tried haptics on a headset before. So I'm mildly curious if it's just a gimmick? £380 for a headset is a lot though. I'm not a big fan of base stations either. I much prefer a discreet dongle.
I didn't EQ the G Pro X2. The bass wouldn't change it's characteristics, no matter how much I increased it. Graphene drivers do remind me of planar magnetic in that respect.
Avoid the kraken like the plague they are absolutely awful,had them 10 minutes ended up sending them back,no way was i paying for a headset like that.The arctis nova pro wireless are really good,but avoid The krakens.
Would you review the Xenns Mangird Tea Pro ?
What sounded better Hyperx cloud flight wireless or the hyperx cloudx?
What do you think about the Philips SHP9500?
Razer is the monster cable of the PC market. Overpriced crap that always has better options for the price. I've owned two products from them and both broke too soon.
They are not that bad. I'm using my viper ultimate for a few years and there is zero problems with it.
@@maybebutwhatever Ok fine, but there are always better products at the price Razer charges.
Every video you keep surprising me with your professional reviews and for sure your personal opinions that I do take by for sure.
I'm looking for a headset within the price range of 125$ such as the following headsets and lower, which headset would you recommend for me in that price range for movies, music, and mixed gaming SP/MP games?
Epos H6 Pro Closed Back
Steelseries Nova 4/3/1/Prime
Turtle Beach Stealth 500 Gen 3 / 600 Gen 3 / 600 Gen 2 Max
Razer Blackshark V2 / V2 Hyperspeed
Razer Kraken V3 X / V3 / V3 Hypersense / V4 X
HyperX Cloud 3 / Alpha / Alpha S / Alpha Pro
Logitech G Pro X 2nd Gen
Beyerdynamic MMX 150
Astro A40
Corsait HS80 / 80 Wireless / 65 / 55
One last option I have is the FiiO JT1 which I can buy with a seperate mic as the VModa Boom Pro or a standalone mic like the fifine AM8
If your answer is the H6 Pros, would you recommend the closed back version as my room is a bit noisy so I can't get open backs?
Note: the H6 Pro and the JT1 are on sale that's why I considered it actually. Also Even though I'd love a wireless headset but I'm trying to stay away from wireless unless it has a wired option due to my doctor's instructions.
Need a maxwell 2 , better software and simultaneous bt, I'd spend the 💰
Does the mic quality of this two headest makes a difference when used wired?
Would you use Razer synapse for the eq or sonar?
Sonar is more powerful, but at the expense of more overhead. You still need Synapse to control everything else, and I think the EQ on Synapse does a good enough job to make it sound good. This is one of the few cases where I think the 10 band EQ is enough for these models.
What are the best headphoes to hear footsteps in black ops6?
can u turn off the haptics ?
Please review the noble fokus apollo
What is the best headset for PS5 that has game/chat volume control, either on headset or amp?
Could you review Sivga sv023?
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO ADJUST GAME/CHAT VOLUME? I CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT
Razer kraken v4 pro or the a50x? Asking for a friend.
Why does the v4 sound better than the pro?
It tied everything I could to make it better. Razer advertises ultra wideband mic support with 32 bit, but Windows only shows 24 bit with no option to change. So it’s either a 32 bit back end, and USB is at 24 from the DAC to host, or the driver is messed up and doesn’t allow me to select what it’s capable of
Any chance get audio settings for Bo6 sonar steel series Xbox series X. Thanks
Can you review the new Asus rog Pelta it's kind of a cheaper delta 2
FINALLY I was searching for this last night lol
I want to see Razer rise up and get to turtle beach level
They need to make the blacksharks with leatherpads and give it more power/volume and maybe add a reflector or something and give it some sound chamber capability.
@GadgetryTech can you do Squiglink for the Sennheiser G4ME ONE?
I was impressed when i bought the Shark V2, box, cables... but sound was not my type, but 400$ with this mic quality? Sometimes I think is something really wrong who decide things in companies, makes no sense. Man if they price this 400$ we expect perfection, otherwise make it 199$. Strange.
Anyone who has purchased these how were they? I’m considering purchasing if I shouldn’t then what else should I look at?
Finally a good review! I've been waiting and hoping you'd get your hands on these ever since they launched. Thank you!
so the real question now is how do the v4 pro's haptic motors compare to the nari ultimate? Has anyone tested both? The drivers should be a lot better than the nari, but how's the headshakers
Anyone have random pops in left ear not bad but weird im on pc. Well i jus thought about that it autoconnects to my phone through bluetooth so it connect to pc and phone at same time so might have something to do with it
How many of yall would trade the fancier buttons and other material upgrades for the BlackShark V2 mic? The current mic sounds like a drive thru 😂
I liked the haptics of my kaira pro but 400$ for a headset is just too much. No way I'm ever upgrade to these.
You rather buy the arctis nova pro wireless, it's way better and it's 350, but you can get it for 250 in the USA only. Razor just made a worse version, the arctis nova pro wireless has no rgb so you can wear it out without people looking at you.
I'm watching this review knowing I'm never going to use a Razer product again because I just enjoy the quality of the videos you make lol it's the synapse software... that ish is like malware man It's awful.
Whats the best headset for ps5 fpa shooters like CoD? Price doesnt matter. Im thinking astro a50x
A50X isn't bad but it lacks sound isolation. If your room is quiet it's great. Otherwise Nova Pro Wireless may have an edge
@GadgetryTech yup those are the 2 I'm debating. Thanks for the reply. My room is quiet so I'll think I'll give the astro a try with ur EQ settings..
If you are only on PS5 the Astro A50 Gen 5 are a better option than the A50X and cheaper. If you mainly play FPS then the Turtle Beach Stealth Pro have to be considered. Can hear things so easily with them just using the default Signature Sound
@@GadgetryTech is the acezone aspire the best for cod? Just saw ur review.
I had nova pro and it was nice for playing CoD in case of sound quality but, it was super uncomfortable for my ears so I returned them. Then I got kraken v4 pro, still not super comfortable but it's acceptable. However, the sound quality is so amazing for me and I fell in love with haptic, man in CoD it's so nice to have this feature, highly recommend to try it.
I got the Kraken V4 Pro and I love them. The haptic feedback is like a DualSense controller on your ears. It really does add to the experience. I use on low setting and dynamic for music. I use balanced for games. The audio is great. Very comfortable and super premium. Yes, they're expensive at £379.99, but I have no regrets. The most exciting bit of tech I've used in years.
Will there be an xbox version in the future?
Hard to say tbh. I think it could depend on sales and demand for down the road
@GadgetryTech thank you for reply, I have around 200 UK pounds to buy a decent headset for just my xbox as I don't have a pc and well its a minefield out here lol your vids are definitely the best at helping me find the best for me, thank you.
I could get the pros for 260€, but the number of games that have dedicated support for haptics is 3 and none truly benefit from it imo. I’ll just wait a year to get them at 150€ if they get more games to support it
Where at 250?
The haptic feature on the Pro seems terrible.
I think it depends on what you play. In mild form, it can be fun. I think some people will be more or less sensitive to it as well. I had trouble with FPS games because the gunfire and explosions were non stop so it became a little fatiguing to me.
Razer+wireless+400$ omg can't name a worse combination
Lol, where they lost all bass?
Just too expensive, especially for that mic quality. Maybe when they're heavily on sale.
Good sir, audio technica apos ath-r70x refine review when? :D
Nice vid! Why do you keep making me open my wallet xD jokes aside thank you for the objective reviews! Also budget banger dac amp tier list?