The Doctor first time meeting River in Silence in the Library: I point and laugh at archaeologists. The Doctor first time meeting Melody: *Points and laughs*
Woo! I am so happy you found it funny!🤣 I thought it just had to be added when I was editing that moment, but I wasn’t sure if anyone else would find as funny as I did🤣💖
This episode was originally entitled Demons Run. It went through several changes including His Darkest Hour and An Angel Goes to War. Demons Run was the episode's title but only in Germany. This is the first River Song story where the phrase "Hello Sweetie" isn't heard. Although Madame Kovarian had appeared throughout the first half of season six, this was the first episode Frances Barber filmed. Steven Moffat had planned the revelation about River Song "for a long time"; when creating Amy, he chose "Pond" for her last name to create a link. He intended for the "answer to be as complicated as the question". This was episode 7 and the 777th episode of the show. Baby Melody Pond was played by twins, a common practice used in filming so that one twin can rest while the other is on set. The twins were three months old. Karen Gillan and Arthur Darvill were both nervous about holding the infants, but they felt it added to their acting.
Wasn’t season four(with the first appearance of River) written by someone else? Thus leaving the responsibility upon a new writer, Moffat? If I’m correct, which I know is unlikely😅, that’s quite a weight to throw on anybody! Considering the past writer obviously didn’t know who the next writer would be🤔. Anyway, great reaction! I think this one gets us all choked up a bit. Kinda a weird to jump in at this episode but I’m gunna try and catch your next reaction and (maybe) all the previous reactions. 🙂👍
@@CyanSkyAnfallSeries 1-4 were mainly written by Russel T. Davies, the current show runner. The first episode featuring River Song was written by Steven Moffat, the show runner for Series 5-10, and still one of the main Doctor Who writers. He created River Song during Series 4 and made her one of the recurrent characters in series 5-7. According to an interview with Alex Kingston (River Song’s actress) on TH-cam, Steven Moffat doesn’t allow any other writers to work on River’s story line. Even if a season is written and produced by Russel T. Davies, he writes everything River-related, due to her convoluted timeline I suppose. The show is in reverse chronological order from River’s point of view, except Series 8 after which she travels straight back to series 4 where she made her first appearance :)
Also, another trivia fact for you: from the very first episode with River, her entire story was written in her diary, which was supposed to be just a prop on set
I really like the moment in the previous episode when the Doctor tells Rory to stand away from Amy. He initially protests, but when the Doctor puts his serious voice on, he immediately does so. I love what that says about how the Doctor and Rory’s friendship has developed since S5.
I get the feeling the Doctor hadn't met the gamma forest soldier yet and he would meet her another time. Similar to how River and his timelines are mixed up so they meet out of order. The Tardis told Rory that the 'Only water in the forest is the River' which was a clue for this.
Oh, I was waiting for this one and your reaction was as awesome as the episode itself! So glad you decided to continue this series! In the Library episode the 10th Doctor says "I point and laugh at archaeologists" and he did that with baby River. Also, just so you know, there's actually a River watching order where you can watch the series from her perspective, so that's pretty fun.
It had such an amazing reveal!🤯 Another commenter mentioned this and I literally just seen a meme of it there🤣 I do love the little tie in here. Oh wow, really?! I was just thinking about going back to watch her death again so that is helpful😄
Fun fact: Captain Jack was actually meant to be in this episode where he would have been beheaded by the monks, then making him a head, which would eventually turn him into the face of boe!
@@kaimeridius3849 Probably scheduling issues. If I remember he was probably filming for Arrow which I believe was in production to be released the next year.
One small point: River has already told us outright why she can fly the TARDIS (assuming she can be believed). When she lands the TARDIS in “The Time of Angels”, Amy asks her how she knows how to do that and she says (somewhat coyly) “oh, I had lessons from the very best”.
I thought this was a magnificent episode. It brings so many story strands together. Where Amy really is. Bringing sense to her sightings of Madam Kovarian and the orphanage.Who River really is, her relationship with the Doctor but also as a weapon to bring the Doctor down. Rory saving Amy after previously keeping her safe. The darkness of the Doctor and lengths he is prepared to go to protect loved ones but at what cost. The inter-relationships and the events of the stories so far known only to River. Also all the characters and those involved in this single episode. Some episodes can be small self contained and then there can be this. A marvelous 'culminating' episode I really enjoyed with thoughts on what is to come. Happy New Year
One of the great reveals. It's only after you've seen everything when you realise all the tip offs you've missed as well eg when Rory first meets River at the prison and she says today is her birthday, means nothing at the time but then after you're like 'Ohhhhh' lol
Oh my god I was so surprised you hadn't been spoiled about River! The only other reactor whose journey I followed, already knew who she was. So it has made my day seeing your reaction! 💙💙💙💙💙💙
Nice, you were slightly ahead of the curve there :). Great reveal IMO. River's arc is one of the joys of Moffat's era for me (well, the tail-end of RTD's era _then_ Moffat's :).
This is one of my favorites. Don’t mess with the doctor. There were flashes here that made me realize how deadly he must have been in the time war. I also like that Roman Rory came to the fore.
I'm pretty sure it was when Moffat asked Alex Kingston to come back to play River for Series 5 that he told her the whole truth. She filmed those episodes knowing the whole time! Been a while, but I think there was an interview where someone said that the first time anyone learned of the twist was during dress rehersal (pages of script were witheld?). Definitely one of my favourite long term arc in sci-fi.
First of all I LOVE your voice and your accent. Second I love the name of this place...Demons Run. That's not the whole name though Spoilers: Demons Run - When a good man goes to war!
Anyone else pick up the bit that was clearly intended for adults? When Vastra tells Jenny, to whom she is married and presumably in a physical relationship, "I don't know why you put up with me," before we get to see her very long tongue? Or is that a bit too much for this show? Christina Chong, the actress who played the soldier Lorna Bucket, may be more familiar to you from her role as La'an Noonien Sing in Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. :D This episode also has two of my favourite line from New Who; Rory telling the Cybermen, "don't give me those blank looks," and River telling Rory he can never tell Stevie Wonder he performed in 1800's London, though I've always suspected Stevie would have known anyway. And the reason River couldn't turn up is because doing so could have caused the same sort of paradox faced in Father's Day, when old Rose touched the baby version of herself.In Classic Who the energy it usually causes (as the time difference cancels itself out) as the Blinovitch Limitation Effect (Mawydryn Undead). This is definitely one of the episodes that gives you literal chills when the big reveal comes up. The memory is still lodged in this increasingly failing mind of mine, and I hope it stays there a long time.
I love this episode so much... it's utterly brilliant. "Good men don't need rules... and today is not the day to find out why I have so many." might be my favorite sentence from the Doctor.
5:45 this was originally meant to be cpt. Jack (notice he lost his head) but there was a scheduling conflict so they braught in this guy (maybe classic who but im not sure)
@@Eli8411 no I remember that I just remember my dad mentioning he knew who he was from classic but this was something like 10 years ago so my memory is fuzzy…
River's timeline IS confusing - until you get to the closure of the loop. Then you can look it up. This episode has a great example. The River we see in the prison is a later River as she clearly knows what happened at Demon's Run. So she didn't just wait a few hours and then join them - she had already been.
Excellent explanation, I feel like I want to go back and watch her death with all the info I have about her now. It sounds horrible to live like that though.
@ReactandRamble Yes - and no. She obviously had a marvellous life with the Doctor - remember her speech in the library before she sacrificed herself? And she didn't know her own personal future any more than the others. As to not being able to tell R&A who she was she would be comforted by the knowledge that it must be right not to because they did not already know at Demon's run. For example, at the Crash of the Byzantium when Amy first met River, for River Demon's Run was already well in the past, so telling Amy then would have been a major paradox.
This episode has one of my favorite lines from the Doctor "Good men don't need rules, today is not the day to find out why I have so many". You can almost hear Morgan Freeman saying "it was in this moment they knew they had f*ck'd up"
"She was taking about Rory" remember what the doctor said, a good man doesnt need rules and he has so many. The episode title is about Rory, he's the good man that goes to war.
I'm going to have to check out your channel. While Mat Smith was never my favorite Doctor, I enjoyed "Demons run, when a good man goes to war" more than any other part of his time as The Doctor. Favorite Doctor post 2005 would be David Tennant, but my absolute favorite Doctor is kind of a conflict between Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker in classic Who.
Thanks!😄There isn’t much to it yet🤣 He has a really good storyline for these two seasons and he has been brilliant! I’m with you though, favourite Doctor is David Tennant💖 Nice! So you like the classic era😊 I haven’t seen that yet.
It has been hinting for a few episodes now. Especially in the episode where the Tardis Matrix is put in to Idris. When Idris is dying, she whispers to Rory, and he questions the doctor about it, "The only water in the forest, is the RIVER !". And the reason she doesn't use Melody, was explained, In the language of the forest, not only have no word for Pond, but also, Melody, Melody Pond = RIVER Song.
Wasn’t season four(with the first appearance of River) written by someone else? Thus leaving the responsibility upon a new writer, Moffat? If I’m correct, which I know is unlikely😅, that’s quite a weight to throw on anybody! Considering the past writer obviously didn’t know who the next writer would be🤔. Anyway, great reaction! I think this one gets us all choked up a bit. Kinda a weird to jump in at this episode but I’m gunna try and catch your next reaction and (maybe) all the previous reactions. 🙂👍
Thank you for answering that! So it makes sense that Moffat would know where to take that story since it’s his😄 Thank you💖 nah it’s not weird, I appreciate you watching!
I always thought it was sad that he seemed not to remember Lorna. I just had a weird idea that maybe he didn’t know because he hasn’t met her yet. Until now I thought it was possible he just didn’t recognize her all grown up. Or maybe he doesn’t really remember every person he’s interacted with over the centuries.
I have my theory that Captain Harcourt was going to shoot Strax in the back after that, and the Doctor came at what would have been the end of Strax's timeline.
She doesn't use the name Melody because she's a time traveler. If she had used her birth name, it would have given everything away, and we can't have spoilers. 😛The Doctor has been on this path since at least the Christmas special that introduced the 10th Doctor, when he said, "No second chances. I'm that sort of a man."
So, here’s a thing: I thought the “risen higher” lines felt a bit forced; like the writers were trying a bit much. Didn’t know how to take it further, so just filed it away. Some months later, and utterly randomly, I tripped over basically the same phrase in one of the original Sherlock Holmes stories. Moffat is a huge Holmes nerd, so I’m /guessing/ he felt like amusing himself and just nicked it. For those interested: it’s from “The Adventure of the Bruce-Partington Plans”.
There is a call back to the very first River episode. “I point and laugh at Archaeologists. “ What is the first thing The Doctor does when he meets the baby?
You had me at "Scottish." Subscribed, and hi from Kentucky. It will probably take me three re-watchings to understand your accent but I am so here for that purpose. If I may ask, from what region of Scotland do you hail from? (As an actor I can do Glaswegian but I am no general expert, being a fan of Peter Capaldi and David Tennant doesn't count.)
Well, hello from Scotland! I’m glad the Scottishness pulled you in🤣 Unfortunately, I sometimes talk fast too, so it could take 3 rewatches🫠 Always here to help with that though🤣 You’re an actor,that is so interesting! So, I’m like right next to Glasgow😊
@ReactandRamble Have you ever seen the 1984 movie "Local Hero", with Peter Riegart and Peter Capaldi? It is funny and wholesome, and it got Peter Capaldi into acting. It is a very good movie. Love from Louisville. Also yes your accent is amazing, I wish I could live in Scotland where everyone around me would sound like you. To a person from Kentucky, your voice is just gold.
The reason Doctor knew Amy was Flesh and didn't know the baby was, was because he had the TARDIS to scan Flesh Amy. He hadn't had a chance to do that with the baby. There was no way to know.
She doesn't go by Melody because of the issues with the timeline they need to have her go buy something else so that whenever I mean and Rory meet her they're not encouraged to not name their child Melody ...
It's more that we don't usually hide behind niceties i think - we tend to say what we mean regardless of how it might come across (Amy wants Rory to live, if necessary at the expense of everyone else, so that's exactly what she says).
@@anonymes2884 Yeah, I never really got Moffat continually getting the Doctor to say people are "so Scottish". But I just looked up that Moffat is Scottish himself, so I guess it's something that he thinks characterises his own people in some way. Which, like you say, would seem to parallel Yorkshire folk who say "I speak as I find" and tend to pride themselves on being blunt and straightforward.
" I point and laugh at archeologists"
The Doctor points and laughs at Melody the first time he meets her.
I love the tie in!
The Doctor first time meeting River in Silence in the Library: I point and laugh at archaeologists.
The Doctor first time meeting Melody: *Points and laughs*
God damn you got a hearty laugh out of me using the " Oh no its Melanie" soundbite for Lorna. I'm pretty sure I woke up my neighbours at 2am
Woo! I am so happy you found it funny!🤣 I thought it just had to be added when I was editing that moment, but I wasn’t sure if anyone else would find as funny as I did🤣💖
"Melody Pond is a superhero"
Yes. Yes, she is.
And archeology teacher too.
Oh 100%💖
This episode was originally entitled Demons Run. It went through several changes including His Darkest Hour and An Angel Goes to War. Demons Run was the episode's title but only in Germany.
This is the first River Song story where the phrase "Hello Sweetie" isn't heard.
Although Madame Kovarian had appeared throughout the first half of season six, this was the first episode Frances Barber filmed.
Steven Moffat had planned the revelation about River Song "for a long time"; when creating Amy, he chose "Pond" for her last name to create a link. He intended for the "answer to be as complicated as the question".
This was episode 7 and the 777th episode of the show.
Baby Melody Pond was played by twins, a common practice used in filming so that one twin can rest while the other is on set. The twins were three months old. Karen Gillan and Arthur Darvill were both nervous about holding the infants, but they felt it added to their acting.
Wasn’t season four(with the first appearance of River) written by someone else? Thus leaving the responsibility upon a new writer, Moffat? If I’m correct, which I know is unlikely😅, that’s quite a weight to throw on anybody! Considering the past writer obviously didn’t know who the next writer would be🤔.
Anyway, great reaction! I think this one gets us all choked up a bit. Kinda a weird to jump in at this episode but I’m gunna try and catch your next reaction and (maybe) all the previous reactions. 🙂👍
@@CyanSkyAnfall No moffat was the one who wrote silence in the library..he started the arc before he was officially showrunner
@@CyanSkyAnfallSeries 1-4 were mainly written by Russel T. Davies, the current show runner. The first episode featuring River Song was written by Steven Moffat, the show runner for Series 5-10, and still one of the main Doctor Who writers. He created River Song during Series 4 and made her one of the recurrent characters in series 5-7. According to an interview with Alex Kingston (River Song’s actress) on TH-cam, Steven Moffat doesn’t allow any other writers to work on River’s story line. Even if a season is written and produced by Russel T. Davies, he writes everything River-related, due to her convoluted timeline I suppose. The show is in reverse chronological order from River’s point of view, except Series 8 after which she travels straight back to series 4 where she made her first appearance :)
Also, another trivia fact for you: from the very first episode with River, her entire story was written in her diary, which was supposed to be just a prop on set
Rory's "Where. Is. My. WIFE?" gets me every time. He's grown so much since we first met him!
I loved that moment!💖Your right, he always had that inner strength but he has really grown into his best self😄
I really like the moment in the previous episode when the Doctor tells Rory to stand away from Amy. He initially protests, but when the Doctor puts his serious voice on, he immediately does so.
I love what that says about how the Doctor and Rory’s friendship has developed since S5.
It gets me EVERY. TIME. Seeing and realizing River has been Amy and Rory's daughter ALL ALONG! 🙊
was a loooong plotline wasn't it, and in plain sight too lol
The music that plays during that sequence always gets me.
"Good men don't need rules. Today is _not_ the day to find out why I have so many."
"Good men don't need rules. Now is not the time to find out why I have so many." is my favorite quote from The Doctor.
I get the feeling the Doctor hadn't met the gamma forest soldier yet and he would meet her another time. Similar to how River and his timelines are mixed up so they meet out of order.
The Tardis told Rory that the 'Only water in the forest is the River' which was a clue for this.
I hope so, the doctor usually don't forget people.
I hope so too, it would be good to see that.
Oh, I was waiting for this one and your reaction was as awesome as the episode itself! So glad you decided to continue this series!
In the Library episode the 10th Doctor says "I point and laugh at archaeologists" and he did that with baby River.
Also, just so you know, there's actually a River watching order where you can watch the series from her perspective, so that's pretty fun.
It had such an amazing reveal!🤯
Another commenter mentioned this and I literally just seen a meme of it there🤣 I do love the little tie in here.
Oh wow, really?! I was just thinking about going back to watch her death again so that is helpful😄
Fun fact: Captain Jack was actually meant to be in this episode where he would have been beheaded by the monks, then making him a head, which would eventually turn him into the face of boe!
But that never happened for whatever reason and i cant remember why
@@kaimeridius3849 Probably scheduling issues. If I remember he was probably filming for Arrow which I believe was in production to be released the next year.
That is so interesting! It would of been cool to have that as an explanation of how he just became a head🤣
@ReactandRamble Yeah it was a bit random wasnt it phahah
One small point: River has already told us outright why she can fly the TARDIS (assuming she can be believed). When she lands the TARDIS in “The Time of Angels”, Amy asks her how she knows how to do that and she says (somewhat coyly) “oh, I had lessons from the very best”.
Too bad The Doctor was busy that day
Looking back, I love how coy she plays it, he couldn’t teach her because she had poisoned him🤣
So funny River says to Rory it's her birthday, and then the episode distracts you again.
Yeah, they were very sneaky there!
I thought this was a magnificent episode. It brings so many story strands together. Where Amy really is. Bringing sense to her sightings of Madam Kovarian and the orphanage.Who River really is, her relationship with the Doctor but also as a weapon to bring the Doctor down. Rory saving Amy after previously keeping her safe. The darkness of the Doctor and lengths he is prepared to go to protect loved ones but at what cost. The inter-relationships and the events of the stories so far known only to River. Also all the characters and those involved in this single episode. Some episodes can be small self contained and then there can be this. A marvelous 'culminating' episode I really enjoyed with thoughts on what is to come. Happy New Year
One of the great reveals. It's only after you've seen everything when you realise all the tip offs you've missed as well eg when Rory first meets River at the prison and she says today is her birthday, means nothing at the time but then after you're like 'Ohhhhh' lol
Yeah, I know what you mean! It wasn’t until I read the comments that I discovered that detail🤣
I love seeing people discover River's identity for the first time
One of the best eps of all time
Such an emotional reveal, to see your reaction was fantastic
I love how they did the reveal! Thank you for watching💖
Oh my god I was so surprised you hadn't been spoiled about River!
The only other reactor whose journey I followed, already knew who she was. So it has made my day seeing your reaction!
💙💙💙💙💙💙
I would watch EMS Productions it's such a good reaction 😊
People have been great about not spoiling in the comments!💖😄
We had to wait three months for the next episode. You can watch it right now.
Yeah, I would have struggled with that wait!🤣
This is one of my favorite episodes, also the next one is fabulous as well. Loved watching the thoughts in your expressions as it all unfolded!!
It was a great episode, oh and the reveal in the next episode is mad😄 Thanks for watching💖
Nice, you were slightly ahead of the curve there :). Great reveal IMO. River's arc is one of the joys of Moffat's era for me (well, the tail-end of RTD's era _then_ Moffat's :).
This is one of my favorites. Don’t mess with the doctor. There were flashes here that made me realize how deadly he must have been in the time war. I also like that Roman Rory came to the fore.
It’s a great episode! Oh 100%, I would love to see him in the time war!
Roman Rory should always make an appearance🤣
I'm pretty sure it was when Moffat asked Alex Kingston to come back to play River for Series 5 that he told her the whole truth. She filmed those episodes knowing the whole time! Been a while, but I think there was an interview where someone said that the first time anyone learned of the twist was during dress rehersal (pages of script were witheld?). Definitely one of my favourite long term arc in sci-fi.
Not only River Song was able to keep this from her parents and the Doctor, but Alex Kingston was also able to hold this from other actors for months.
Oh wow! I am so impressed Kingston managed to keep quiet about that!
"All of this time, River has known that she was Amy and Rory's daughter. Im not sure how she managed to keep that to herself" ....
"Spoilers..."
I love seeing your channel blowing up!
Thank you! I appreciate that people are watching and people are really nice, so far at least🤣
Honestly one of my favourite episodes of all of Doctor Who. That twist at the end was brilliant.
Awesome job! Loved watching this with you. Can't wait to watch the rest.
Thank you! Glad to have you along for the ride😄
Great reaction! One of my favourite episodes. Great timing on my part, i just watched a reaction to the next episode by another reactor lol.
Thank you! It was a huge episode!🤯Definitely good timing🤣
This is a great time to rewatch the episode with the crash of the Byzantium (the angels a River meets Amy).
Shock, confusion, acceptance, more confusion. This is the way for a Doctor Who fan.
Great reaction and great discussion after.
I am so glad this is a shared experience!😄 Thanks and thank you for watching💖
First of all I LOVE your voice and your accent. Second I love the name of this place...Demons Run. That's not the whole name though
Spoilers:
Demons Run - When a good man goes to war!
Anyone else pick up the bit that was clearly intended for adults? When Vastra tells Jenny, to whom she is married and presumably in a physical relationship, "I don't know why you put up with me," before we get to see her very long tongue? Or is that a bit too much for this show?
Christina Chong, the actress who played the soldier Lorna Bucket, may be more familiar to you from her role as La'an Noonien Sing in Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. :D This episode also has two of my favourite line from New Who; Rory telling the Cybermen, "don't give me those blank looks," and River telling Rory he can never tell Stevie Wonder he performed in 1800's London, though I've always suspected Stevie would have known anyway. And the reason River couldn't turn up is because doing so could have caused the same sort of paradox faced in Father's Day, when old Rose touched the baby version of herself.In Classic Who the energy it usually causes (as the time difference cancels itself out) as the Blinovitch Limitation Effect (Mawydryn Undead).
This is definitely one of the episodes that gives you literal chills when the big reveal comes up. The memory is still lodged in this increasingly failing mind of mine, and I hope it stays there a long time.
Nope. I noticed that line from Vastra too and my first thought was that I had a guess as to why she puts up with her. 🤣
Don't worry, that little exchange has spawned many a smutty fanfic ever since it first aired. =:o}
This episode might be my favorite episode.
You've got so many good "spoilers" ahead of you :)
I love this episode so much... it's utterly brilliant.
"Good men don't need rules... and today is not the day to find out why I have so many." might be my favorite sentence from the Doctor.
Brilliant line!
5:45 this was originally meant to be cpt. Jack (notice he lost his head) but there was a scheduling conflict so they braught in this guy (maybe classic who but im not sure)
Dorium was briefly in the episode the pandorica opens selling river a vortex manipulator but I don’t know if he had appeared before then
@@Eli8411 He hadn't.
@@Eli8411 no I remember that I just remember my dad mentioning he knew who he was from classic but this was something like 10 years ago so my memory is fuzzy…
"You're so Scottish" makes me laugh every time.
"I thought there was some sort of Tardis shenanigan going on!" well yes, but maybe not the shenanigan you were thinking of!
Happy new year from Edinburgh.
Happy New Year!💖
What a reveal!!
"Doctor...do you have children."
The very first Doctor (Hartnell) travelled with his grand daughter. So yes. Yes he did.
River's timeline IS confusing - until you get to the closure of the loop. Then you can look it up. This episode has a great example. The River we see in the prison is a later River as she clearly knows what happened at Demon's Run. So she didn't just wait a few hours and then join them - she had already been.
Excellent explanation, I feel like I want to go back and watch her death with all the info I have about her now.
It sounds horrible to live like that though.
@ReactandRamble Yes - and no. She obviously had a marvellous life with the Doctor - remember her speech in the library before she sacrificed herself? And she didn't know her own personal future any more than the others. As to not being able to tell R&A who she was she would be comforted by the knowledge that it must be right not to because they did not already know at Demon's run. For example, at the Crash of the Byzantium when Amy first met River, for River Demon's Run was already well in the past, so telling Amy then would have been a major paradox.
2:54 There was actually some shenanigans going on in the TARDIS.
This episode has one of my favorite lines from the Doctor "Good men don't need rules, today is not the day to find out why I have so many". You can almost hear Morgan Freeman saying "it was in this moment they knew they had f*ck'd up"
I can just hear his voice saying that in my head🤣
My favorite Who episode. :-)
A detail a lot of people miss - when Rory comes to pick up River, she says it's her birthday. Meanwhile, Amy just gave birth.
Just found you today. Love your accent!
Aww thank you!😄
"She was taking about Rory" remember what the doctor said, a good man doesnt need rules and he has so many. The episode title is about Rory, he's the good man that goes to war.
This one always gets me....
I think I know why Jenny puts up with Madame Vastra... 😅
In this episode, the doctor refuses to accept the title of a good man, so I personally attribute the titular "Good Man", to be Rory
I am 100% onboard with that!
Just as their word for Pond is River, their word for Melody is Song, I think.
...Or maybe Lorna never paid much attention in music lessons, so mixed up the terminology. =:o}
AMELIA POND!!!! Get your coat!!! 😆
River had no choice but to keep it a secret.......because Wibbly-Wobbly, Timey-Wimey.
I'm going to have to check out your channel. While Mat Smith was never my favorite Doctor, I enjoyed "Demons run, when a good man goes to war" more than any other part of his time as The Doctor. Favorite Doctor post 2005 would be David Tennant, but my absolute favorite Doctor is kind of a conflict between Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker in classic Who.
Thanks!😄There isn’t much to it yet🤣 He has a really good storyline for these two seasons and he has been brilliant! I’m with you though, favourite Doctor is David Tennant💖 Nice! So you like the classic era😊 I haven’t seen that yet.
It has been hinting for a few episodes now.
Especially in the episode where the Tardis Matrix is put in to Idris. When Idris is dying, she whispers to Rory, and he questions the doctor about it, "The only water in the forest, is the RIVER !".
And the reason she doesn't use Melody, was explained, In the language of the forest, not only have no word for Pond, but also, Melody, Melody Pond = RIVER Song.
Also she has to be careful of spoilers so an assumed name hel0s hide her true idenity
Wasn’t season four(with the first appearance of River) written by someone else? Thus leaving the responsibility upon a new writer, Moffat? If I’m correct, which I know is unlikely😅, that’s quite a weight to throw on anybody! Considering the past writer obviously didn’t know who the next writer would be🤔.
Anyway, great reaction! I think this one gets us all choked up a bit. Kinda a weird to jump in at this episode but I’m gunna try and catch your next reaction and (maybe) all the previous reactions. 🙂👍
It was a diffrent showrunner but silence in the library is a moffet story
Thank you for answering that! So it makes sense that Moffat would know where to take that story since it’s his😄
Thank you💖 nah it’s not weird, I appreciate you watching!
"she'd be ready to give birth" cuts to her just having given birth, yeah I agree!
I always thought it was sad that he seemed not to remember Lorna. I just had a weird idea that maybe he didn’t know because he hasn’t met her yet. Until now I thought it was possible he just didn’t recognize her all grown up. Or maybe he doesn’t really remember every person he’s interacted with over the centuries.
It is strange when he always says he remembers the people he meets.
Lorna Bucket deserved better. Justice for Lorna Bucket
17:15 Cause if you will recall Amy shot her, and she then she regenerated.
I have my theory that Captain Harcourt was going to shoot Strax in the back after that, and the Doctor came at what would have been the end of Strax's timeline.
She doesn't use the name Melody because she's a time traveler. If she had used her birth name, it would have given everything away, and we can't have spoilers. 😛The Doctor has been on this path since at least the Christmas special that introduced the 10th Doctor, when he said, "No second chances. I'm that sort of a man."
Thank you! I should have picked up on that🤣
Good point, I loved his delivery of that line.
So, here’s a thing: I thought the “risen higher” lines felt a bit forced; like the writers were trying a bit much. Didn’t know how to take it further, so just filed it away. Some months later, and utterly randomly, I tripped over basically the same phrase in one of the original Sherlock Holmes stories. Moffat is a huge Holmes nerd, so I’m /guessing/ he felt like amusing himself and just nicked it. For those interested: it’s from “The Adventure of the Bruce-Partington Plans”.
Ok that makes sense! I understand what they were going for but I felt the same way.
There is a call back to the very first River episode. “I point and laugh at Archaeologists. “ What is the first thing The Doctor does when he meets the baby?
Ok that is brilliant!🤣
@ there is a meme showing both together. Just look up the point and laugh at Archaeologists
Seen it, hilarious🤣
You had me at "Scottish." Subscribed, and hi from Kentucky. It will probably take me three re-watchings to understand your accent but I am so here for that purpose. If I may ask, from what region of Scotland do you hail from? (As an actor I can do Glaswegian but I am no general expert, being a fan of Peter Capaldi and David Tennant doesn't count.)
Well, hello from Scotland! I’m glad the Scottishness pulled you in🤣 Unfortunately, I sometimes talk fast too, so it could take 3 rewatches🫠 Always here to help with that though🤣
You’re an actor,that is so interesting!
So, I’m like right next to Glasgow😊
@ReactandRamble Have you ever seen the 1984 movie "Local Hero", with Peter Riegart and Peter Capaldi? It is funny and wholesome, and it got Peter Capaldi into acting. It is a very good movie. Love from Louisville.
Also yes your accent is amazing, I wish I could live in Scotland where everyone around me would sound like you. To a person from Kentucky, your voice is just gold.
The reason Doctor knew Amy was Flesh and didn't know the baby was, was because he had the TARDIS to scan Flesh Amy. He hadn't had a chance to do that with the baby. There was no way to know.
Also flesh Melody not liking being in the TARDIS
Oh! Thanks for telling me!😄
Rory, the boyfriend that your mother wanted for you.
That your "daughter" wanted for you.
Tho that age gap at this point Rory is older than the Doctor and Amy was "dead" in the pandorica all that time
"Why doesn't she go by Melody"- literally TEN SECONDS after she explained exactly that.
I was too surprised by the reveal so I missed that😂
She doesn't go by Melody because of the issues with the timeline they need to have her go buy something else so that whenever I mean and Rory meet her they're not encouraged to not name their child Melody ...
No reactor I've watched yet has figured out before this who river is.
there are a few out there
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"You let them all die first."
"You're so Scottish."
Are the Scots hostile? LOL
It's more that we don't usually hide behind niceties i think - we tend to say what we mean regardless of how it might come across (Amy wants Rory to live, if necessary at the expense of everyone else, so that's exactly what she says).
@@anonymes2884 Yeah, I never really got Moffat continually getting the Doctor to say people are "so Scottish". But I just looked up that Moffat is Scottish himself, so I guess it's something that he thinks characterises his own people in some way. Which, like you say, would seem to parallel Yorkshire folk who say "I speak as I find" and tend to pride themselves on being blunt and straightforward.
Nah, we are so friendly! But, yeah I agree we can be very straightforward🤣