One very important point I missed in the video is that Amazon explicitly states these products have no manufacturers warrenties. You can only return it based on Amazon's return policy. That does add an extra level of risk. So please bear that in mind if you are thinking about it. Sorry for missing that, and thanks for watching! 😁
Amazons "policy" does not override law its a common scam retailers have to get out of returns. I know its a grey area on the rights with manufacturer but if they are basically saying these are new they can't then say theres no warranty.
I bought this exact same laptop but with a ryzen 5 3500u and 12gb of ram for 500cad . Open box from best buy and it was in great condition . Also the nvme in my is 512gb
Working @amazon. i can't disclose any details, but warehouse deals are usually unused product which had damaged packaging from storing , or were sent back from buyers with only the box opened. Amazon does not resell PCs, which have been set up by users, because there is no way to tell if they have been tampered with. Also the return policy varies from country to country and your mileage may vary.
I apoligize for having written so much, I'll put a TLDR at the bottom. I'm currently watching this using the laptop in the video. I also bought it from an Amazon warehouse deal and paid 367.34$CAD in November 2019. Since the purpose of you video was to evaluate the quality of Amazon warehouse deals, I'll say that I received mine in the original packaging and in a condition that is indistinguishable from brand new. I've had nothing but good expericences with warehouse deals in Canada. The items usually come in the original retail packaging and are always in like-new condition. If I want to buy something and it is available as a warehouse deal, I will ALWAYS buy the warehouse deal, even if the difference is only a few dollars. I have some family that usually spends the winter in Florida and have ordered some warehouse deals from there. Their experience could not be further from the one I have had. They told me that they have ordered twice from warehouse deals in the US and have, both times, received a product so dammaged that it might as well be landfill. Regarding the computer, I've been using mine pretty much every day for university, so the battery has been charged and drained once or twice a day since I've owned it. The battery now lasts just over 3 hours, which is enough to attend one full course on battery, if barely. If I forsee using it for more than 3 hours, I'll bring the charger which, thankfully, is very compact. Last week, I took mine appart last week to clean it and put in some new thermal paste. I noticed all the same things you did (spare ram slot , usused 2.5in drive bay (I wish they extended the battery in there or provided the drive adaptor). I looked back at the Amazon listing for it and noticed that is has "AMD Radeon RX Vega 3 discrete graphics". The Vega 3 is an integrated GPU, so that phrasing would be misleading to someone less knowledgeable. There is one interesting thing I noticed when I took it appart. The heatpipe has plates that make contact in two different places. The first point of contact is the CPU-iGPU combo, located furthest from the fan. The second spot looks like a soldering ball grid array on the motherboard. It makes contact on this second point using a thermal pad (approx 1mm thick). I'm not sure if it means that there is something mounted on the other side of the motherboard or that it's just a mounting point for a dedicated GPU in a higher-end model. I think it's hilarious that the heatsink is this relatively big heatpipe running approximately 6in/15cm along the motherboard, but that it leads to a single fin next to the fan. I'm considering getting a cheap 4gb DIMM to put in it. I saw that there are drive adaptors available for 15-20$ and I'm considering that upgrade as well, but I'm not sure if it would provide enough power for a hard drive. Right now, my solution to the storage problem it to just leave a small flash drive plugged into it at all times. It's not very elegant, but it works. TLDR : I bought this laptop in late 2019 for 26% off MSRP. It arrived like new in original packaging. In my experience the warehouse deals on Amazon Canada are good, but Amazon US will send you landfill (n=2). The listing incorrectly states that is has Vega 3 discrete graphics (it's an iGPU). Laptop has 2 upgrade options, RAM and storage (requires adaptor). After 1.5 years of daily use, laptop battery lasts 3 hours. The charger is very compact.
I'll wage aside from more memory it's probably cpu bound & changing the ssd wouldn't make a jot of difference. I'd be interested in seeing what a complete fresh Windows install would do just in case there's any Asus crapware on there.
I like how this channel doesn't really follow the boring trend of reviewing / comparing current high end graphics cards and processors which very few are willing to buy; Focusing instead on more realistic and useful goals like showing how to save some money when buying a laptop. So yeah, keep the videos coming!
Your similes, metaphors, and tongue in cheek descriptions make your videos just that bit more excellent. You have a way with words that makes your work that bit more fantastic. You offer things others can't.
Having purchased 2 1440p monitors from Amazon Warehouse recently I can say I'm genuinely impressed with the deals available and will be looking out for them in future. The only thing wrong with them was the box had been opened, both had all the orignal protective labels still attached. I saved well over £100 on each one so a good deal if ask me!
I got weird dirt cheap RX 580 from Amazon warehouse. It had a weird underclocked bios. So my guess it had been used for mining. I reflashed the right bios and it works great now.
Oh cool! Thanks for the feedback. Luckily you had the ability to reflash it. It would have sucjed if somebody bought it not knowing how to deal with it.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Yes It worked when I first got it, but I ran a few benchmarks on it and it was under performing for that card (rx 580 nitro+ 4gb). So I reflashed it and it worked great. I thought about putting a bad review on it but it was like 50% cheaper than any other rx580 I'd seen so I didn't bother. Btw I found out about reflashing amd GPUs from your channel,so thanks.
I bought several warehouse deals over the last few years, a monitor, tools, even fotography film with slightly damaged packaging for almost 30% off. I was never disappointed.
As a former warehouse packing employee (in Vancouver too I may add) was that the warehouse deals that came down the conveyor belt were in 1 of 2 types of condition. 1 was a obviously opened box and usually a bit rough looking but it looked just fine as a used product. The second was a box that was absolutely wreaked and is barely being held together with duct tape.
sorry for the late reply. does that mean the laptops are in brand new condition but the box isn’t resealable condition so it’s a great deal or would you say a good number of the laptops were in used condition & looked beat around slightly. as someone who’s new to expensive computers i’ve always feared buying a used one as all my friends seem to treat theirs roughly even though they’re thousands where I treat my $800 laptop like a baby & has lasted me 5 years & even outlasted it’s own charger
From what I've seen, I wouldn't say in "brand new condition" since they often have some sort of minor damage to them. Most often that I myself saw was scratches or a small dent. Honestly I would still consider it a good deal as it's easy enough to cover up minor scratches. If you're looking for a laptop in pristine condition, you're better off going to best buy or Amazon.
I've got 3 of the 8" amazon fire HD tablets from warehouse deals and all of them were rock solid with nothing wrong that I could find. I've bought a couple motherboards from warehouse deals as well and the worst thing I had happen was a missing AMD backplate, with no io shield. That motherboard was like 44 dollars for a 90 dollar MSRP motherboard though and it was stated in the listing that it had missing parts. However I through it in a build and sold it, and the buyer is still happy with it.
Warehouse deals are utterly hit or miss. I've gotten stuff in like new condition, but I've also gotten a TV with a huge line/artifact. Luckily I tested the tv before I signed off on the delivery.
Bro I have similar Asus laptop I has the most shitty cooling ever seen. The fan just blows air over a small heat mounted on top of ryzen 5-3500u, which the size of the dye! As far as I can it doesn't even have heat sink at least this one has! Performance is worst. I know Vivobook is not meant for heavy use but that does raise question why even include such a CPU in the first place
When trying to get the most gaiming performance out of that laptop be sure to use Ryzen Controller to adjust tdp and temp limit, you get quite a bit more performance like that.
Dawid, thanks again for an very entertaining video. FYI, I purchase quite a few items from the Amazon Warehouse and it appears that the vast majority of their products have never been used. My experience is that the Like New are just returns like an Open Box item which has never been used. Some, like graphics cards are far less dodgy. I recently picked up an ASUS ROG Strix RX 5600 XT OC Edition Gaming Graphics Card for only $255 vs the new price of $340 at Newegg. I will gladly take my chances on things like graphics cards and RAM, but am somewhat leery of items like HDDs and SSDs. That being said, one can always run diagnostics on them to determine if they have been abused.
My whole system (minus the 9900k) was ordered through amazon warehouse. Great luck with everything! Gigabyte aorus z390 master, asus strix 2080 ti, phanteks evolv x case. Pretty much everything was in the original box, only the boxes were slightly damaged. The deal of deals was the 2080 ti for 950$
Warehouse deals may also mean the original box is not included or is severely damaged, but the actual product is ok. Can also mean a customer returned it because they just didn't like it. Maybe the original documentation got lost, a number of reasons why it's a warehouse deal and not necessarily reflecting the condition of the actual product.
2:36 You have just exactly described why I chose an older, refurbished Intel laptop over one of these. 4GB isn't enough _without_ the graphics card borrowing it, and even if it _did_ have its own VRAM, I'd rather have at least 8 GB of RAM. I now have 8 GB of memory in my Lenovo Thinkpad X240, which I got for about $40 cheaper on eBay. I don't mind not having a discrete GPU, since I have a desktop capable of playing all the games that I already have.
I've worked at Amazon in the past and for the most part, those warehouse deals are mostly open-box returns. most of its still brand new or light use, but since the buyer opened the box, they can't legally sell it as new. Also if what you get isn't the right item, they will usually refund it. It really is a good way to save a buck on new items
There is no VAT or flat sales tax in the US, so it can't be figured into the price until it is determined where the item is shipping to. Each State has it's own sales tax rate, and some cities, like New York also have a sales tax of their own.
I've been about two for four on Warehouse. > An action figure that was supposed to come with a posable companion wolf, but it had been swapped for a generic non-posable wolf. Ironically the "main" figure was in perfect shape, and all parts present. Not a terrible deal, but disappointed, as I wanted that little wolf figure. > A reclining office chair that was literally NIB. Good deal here. > A large box of BMS cards, where the vast majority of them were ruined. Enough of them survived to meet my needs, but was a bad deal. > A small professional outdoor LCD monitor. The screen has an internal connection problem, but this is something I can work around. An acceptable deal. One of these days I'll pull it apart and see if I can fix the connection problem. Postnote, while typing this comment my GPU has begun artifacting and I am now terrified. I can't afford to replace a GTX 1080.
I have purchased a fair amount from the warehouse deals section. I've never received anything broken or anything with missing parts. It's largely items in like new condition with packaging too damaged for normal retail sale, sometimes repacked in nondescript boxes likely because the original packaging was damaged beyond use. Twice I've had items just not show up at all, while annoying isn't bad as this is Amazon and they just refund quick.
I bought an HP Envy 13 x2 three years ago from Amazon Warehouse in the US, as my wife wanted a specific model, and we brought it back to Canada. The screen flickered once in a while upon receiving it so I opened it up and reseated all the cables and reapplied thermal paste. It helped a little so I replaced the LCD cable (no effect), then the motherboard (no effect), then the screen (yay!), and it's worked fine ever since. I love fixing computers & electronics in general but it's a lot better if I know there's a problem when I buy it. The potential to save $400 was very enticing but I ended up paying 85% of the new cost but ended up with zero warranty for a 1yr old product AND had to buy another laptop in the meantime because the flickering ended up getting so bad. The silver lining is with the pandemic as I had a spare laptop for home learning.
I don’t recommend the warehouse deals, I bought a Samsung ssd came in doa, ordered a set of speakers and one was dead, I don’t think most of the returned items that go into the deals are ever actually inspected and just see a product looks good and send it on it’s way, so it would be a hit or miss with these deals so do so at your own risk, personally I’ll pass from now on
Theres a lot of warehouse stuff that actually never left the amazon warehouse. pretty much anything that the outer box is damaged ends up in warehouse deals
I have purchased many products from the Amazon Warehouse. The downside is that those products do not qualify for the manufacturer warranty. But the products still qualify for 30 day returns. I have also had to return a couple of items because they're missing parts. By the way, the Amazon Warehouse has now been renamed to Amazon Resale.
I purchased a similar laptop on sale a little while back, something that you kind of can call ''introduction sale'' that one of the electronics and household appliance store here has for first two weeks of them starting to stock various products, a Lenovo ideapad s145 with a R3 3200u, 128GB nvme ssd, 4GB ram, and I upgraded it by putting in a 8Gb ram stick and a 2.5'' 500GB sata ssd, and it works practically perfectly for general media consumption and office work. [Edit to add this] It's definitively worth buying budget laptop if you're using it for office work, paying bills etc, and it's worth adding additional ram stick to make it run it's ram on dual channel, especially if you're a student or someone that want a windows pc on the go, without having to worry too much about loosing anything expensive. The laptop I got was brand new at around 450 CAD / Canadian $, With the ram upgrade I did fork out another 75 CAD or so, didn't include the 500GB ssd, since it's a old ssd that I had put into a external enclosure.
I've had good luck, purchased over time 2 laptops and 2 monitors, all of which were fine, saved a bit of money. One of the monitors had cosmetic slightly visible weird smudges on the bezel and one laptop had a scratch on the outside. Otherwise all worked fine. I still think it's a dice roll.
9:20 that's because taxes differ depending on location. Even cities within counties within states can have vastly different taxes. For example where I live the city adds an additional 4 percent ON TOP of the state tax for restaurant dining.
I've had more good than bad with Amazon Warehouse deals. I had one bad experience where I brought a medicine cabinet with a mirrored door on the front where the said door had one of the hinges completely broken. On the other hand I've brought stuff like computer wires and even some electronics like a computer monitor and they've been fine. Luck of the draw I guess :)
I generally have extremely good luck with Warehouse deals. Bought headphones, monitors, motherboards, CPUs, RAM, VR headset (Samsung Odyssey+), phones (my Essential was $160, only a month or two after launch, just missing the charger), and tons more including my current 2080 Ti which had nothing wrong except for a tape peel on the box that made it look funky and saved me $138 USD. Not all are returns, some are just packaging that was damaged in the warehouse. The descriptions are generally very concise and accurate on what's wrong, and in the one case where the product didn't work, Amazon stood behind it and refunded the item. I'm certain that there are definitely some really bad instances on Warehouse deals relatively frequently, but anecdotally with a few thousand extra dollars in my pocket over the years, I recommend at least trying to find Warehouse items.
I love the warehouse deals here from Amazon Germany. Germany has a no-exceptions 30 day return policy. Generally, products they are just brand-new but open box items.
I get lots of good deals from Amazon Warehouse, just a couple lemons lately with Philips HUE lights with dead batteries... Some interesting buyings for me are music-related books. People return them if they have an slight cover damage (perhaps they were for a gift?) and then you can get almost-new books with an interesting discount
I bought an Epson WF-7610 A3 all in one for £150 should've been £199. When it arrived it had a damaged panel (cosmetic) not mentioned in description but was otherwise mint even still had all the blue transit tape & peely bits, I contacted amazon they knocked another £50 off. Epson were also running £100 cashback at the time so claimed that and got the printer FREE. Still using it now, Epson still release firmware updates for it & it's excellent. Inks cost almost nothing via 3rd parties, best printer I've ever "bought". I had some right garbage in the past too. I even had something that was a box of bolts to make it weigh correctly, inspected by amazon my arse!!
At the end of the day, it really depends on how much you are saving. I got a Razer pro 17 2020 with a 1TB SSD, 4k monitor and 2080 super-Q in Jan 2021, paying 2300 bucks (As of today, it's still selling at 2799.99), which is a great deal. Here's the catch: they didn't clear the system, and I had to contact the original owner to get the system unlocked and wiped. I was also able to learn from the original owner that why the item was returned and the condition it was in, which was pretty much brand new. It was a generally great and unique experience.
I've had a lot of good luck with Amazon Warehouse deals. I got an Acer Predator Helios 300 a few years back. For the spec it was going new for $1099 and I paid $875. I also got a Acer WMR headset for like $200. Amazon also has their "Renewed" deals as well, which is a lot like their Warehouse deals but they put a little more work into them. I got a VERY good deal on a pair of Sony WHCH700N headphones. Price new on them is in the ballpark of $200. I paid $70. All of these devices came practically new as if they were tried by snobs and returned because they didn't meet their haughty expectations. In any case, I've gotten a lot of good use out of them. I recommend these deals to people all the time.
You have to be pretty careful with Amazon Warehouse deals. My "Like New" electric kettle was obviously used (coffee/teal drips all over the outside) and was missing the base so it didn't work at all. Similarly, half of my "Like New" Command Strips were missing. Lol. I wouldn't be surprised if people remove the RAM so buyer beware, but you can also get some decent deals if there's no "consumable" aspect to the product.
I got like 20% rebate on a motherboard using the Amazon Warehouse deal. That's quite the risk there, but it was like new and ended up being a great deal.
The inspected sticker doesn't mean squat. I bought a paper shredder once and the entire paper receptacle was cracked down the middle. As far as US sales tax, its done at the state level. The amount differs by state and even locality which makes pricing much more difficult so they just leave it up to the consumer. I'm sure this also causes a consumers to spend more.
I got a cheap laptop this way, after going way over budget on the desktop side of my upgrades a few months ago. This was basically my only way to get decent specs with decent odds that it would be in usable condition. It arrived basically exactly as Amazon claimed it would, full working order but limited accessories, just had the power brick as far as that goes. Specs were as promised, and I get the performance I'd expect of those specs. Cosmetics were near perfect, I had to hunt to find a couple scratches- it was hard enough to find them that had they claimed it was cosmetically perfect, I would have forgiven them and not complained about the oversight.
I have actually gotten very good luck with Newegg open box and refurbished deals. My very first one was an open box of a LG 34 um 88cp but I picked up back in 2016. Retail for $1,000, got it for $560. It was in immaculate condition, I think somebody just opened up the box looked inside, said it was too big and sealed up and sent it back. I'm still using it to this day. Last January I got an Asus strix 5700 xt, open box, for $330. Only thing that was wrong with it, is the PCI Express bracket look like somebody was trying to force it into their case and it bent it. I haven't vertically mounted to bypass the mounting pressure issue, and it feels like a golden sample because I could get some really good overclocks, and some really nice undervolts out of it.
I recently bought some stuff from amazon warehouse. Motherboard, two gpus, case fans. They said the mobo was "good" and had a scratch at the bottom, but when i looked it was just a small edge on one of the corners and the board worked fine. The others were "like new" and certainly looked and performed the part. One of he three fans was a little dusty but that was it. Saved just over $100 in all.
Well, you have to figure that if the product went out to someone and they opened the box or the product, it's no longer new technically. Even if they open a laptop, look at it, and close it back up and send it back. The fact that the factory seal or packaging has been opened is enough to say it's at best, an open box (but no brand new). Brand new, usually means still in the box, sealed. Perhaps instead of calling them items that do not meet their standards as new, they should just call them "Open Box" like everyone else. I've bought some Open box computers, and one "open box" camera lens and they worked out to be great products, worked great, and in most cases I saved anywhere from 10-20%. Although I will say that between an open-box/return and a refurbished item (which also was purchased, used/opened, and returned either because of defect or someone changed their mind) I would take the refurbished, especially if it's refurbished by the mfr. At least that way if it's by the mfr, you know that a trained tech has looked at the item and certified it to be in good working condition , and any parts that needed replacing, were replaced with OEM parts.
Never had the guts to buy something really expensive used of Amazon, but i did manage to snatch a fairly good quality wireless bluetooth keyboard for my samsung tablet & saved $35 because the "items box has been cracked & batteries are missing". Still works just fine.
I like how the fan is not connected to the CPU / APU and cooling is based on airflow. I'd assume a fine finarray would help much more than that single heatpipe.
A couple of years ago at a place called Bargain Hunt when I was in Cincinnati for work I got an Asus ROG Laptop with a Skylake I7 and a GTX 960 that they got from Amazon Returns. The gimmick at this place was the longer they had something the more it was Discounted. (every 2 weeks) This Laptop was on the Bottom of the pile in their Electronics and I eventually got it for $200 (it was a $1700 Retail Laptop)
Let me tell you a story about Amazon warehouse. I've bought twice from amazon warehouse. First was a razer basilisk ultimate that was a standard basilisk that someone cut the cord, returned to amazon and kept the real thing. Second was a logitech G935 headset that had a been swapped for some old but almost identical looking G933 that stank of cigarettes. TLDR: Don't buy from amazon warehouse. Its all the shit people either didnt want or scammed amazon returns policy.
At least everything seems serviceable from the bottom. Some older ASUS laptops were terrible in which you had to pry the top keyboard off to do anything with it.
I'm down to see what improvements you can get out of this laptop, for gaming. "A box full of war crimes & sadness" is a great marketing line for a company named "Woot", btw. Great video, Dawid.
for this to be accurate, you would have to buy several products as some will come opened but untouched, others will have been slightly used. and for the 3 items i bought off amazon warehouse which one was a gtx 1660super sc ultra, i was able to register it on evga website for full manufacture website.
Bought a meaty last gen Asus Gaming laptop (RTX3080, 12 gen intel CPU) from Amazon warehouse last year and it was pristine. The return was probably based on the silicon lottery and 'some gaming laptops run hotter than others'. The issue was the CPU running a little hot (common in 12 gen and over), so a bit of throttlestop and fixed, plus I saved about 25% of the normal price at the time (and about 50% of the rrp!). Bottom line; Warehouse deals are often better than ebay because the items are usually open-box with very little wrong with them (and if they are more than that, you can just return it) plus the price is often less than ebay for a less used system... and the seller is much less variable and potentially scammy than ebay private sales!
I bought a mad catz mouse from the amazon warehouse in uk a few months ago. The mouse was new, the packaging not. Saved over 50% of the price new, couldnt be happier.
It would be great if tax was included in the price, but different areas in the US have different sales tax rates so the price changes depending on where it's shipped.
A warehouse deal I got which worked out really well was a RTX 2060 Super (at the time, it was the cheapest RTX 2060 Super i could find online from UK retail). Albeit, it actually ended up coming from Germany to the UK (location wasn't listed). But it works perfectly. The only downside was it was just the box. No external packaging - so everyone could see what it was - and the box was pretty wrecked with scuffs, stickers and holes. Cost me £300 - the price of a new RTX 2060 (Non Super).
I've bought a couple of cases from the warehouse and both were new and unused but half price. We don't seem to have as big a selection here in the U.K.
I bought a redragon k585 keyboard from a warehouse deal, I do not believe it was a return though, I think it was damaged in their warehouse. It came in its original plastic cradle, but the box was missing. The corner of the plastic look as if it was crushed and pushed back out. And I also got a bunch of rubber pads and screws that didn't belong to the keyboard, a little search and I found they came from some really expensive iPhone stand by searching the review card which also was not for my keyboard.
I went for a warehouse deal when I bout my define mini c. It came in the original box and had all the little bits with it, manuals et al. The only way you'd know it wasn't know was the little scratches on on side panel and the generous amount of dust inside, but defo worth the £30 saving.
I also have an asus vivobook 14 with me right now, and... Gaming on it.. Is really terrible 0 heat pipes... Vega 8.... Not a good combination... Just a big chunky heatsink for the apu You can try and throw in some heat pipes, I'd love to see the results after you perform this mod
I bought a Amazon refurbished Dell Ryzen 5 (Step up from what you have) for little over $300 with the intent of playing with it (upgrading) to learn, and possibly destroy. It came with 4GB and it was pretty lame, actually really lame. I put 16GB in it, and applied all the windows updates and now its really nice, and I'm using it for my daily driver now. I was shocked with a little more RAM would do, but it is an APU sharing RAM. It also came in a generic brown box. I have worked at Dell in the past, and I know a percentage of returns were never turned on, but they can't sell it for new if the box was opened, they don't want to take a chance with a bad customer experience and ironically the returns gets more QA testing than the ones coming off the line, at least back then they did.
Please try to give the laptop some new performance! As someone who has had a laptop for around 6 years, I'd be very interested in knowing if the differences are worthwhile or not!
3 months ago I constantly refreshed amazon because everything good was out of stock. I found 1 (1!) amazon *used* MSI B450 board that I wanted so I jumped on it. I had to have it immediately because everything is all about me. When it arrived it was obviously brand new but the box was missing. The board works great. So in my experience amazon is doing a good job selling you something in better condition than what you thought you were getting. Of course, your mileage may vary.
it is hit or miss. warehouse deals = what a tired mofo wanting to home 5 hours ago thinks is damange/was on the floor where the robots where. i saw an x570 asus taichi that looked perfect except it was missing its anti static sleeve...., a ryzen 3700x with a tiny tear in the box, an rx 570 with a third of the box mushed in (should be fine, no rattling when i checked) and an offbrand 950w power supply that looked mint. i guarantee 80% of whats in warehouse deals is because a giant weight bearing roomba dragged it across the concrete floor for half a mile or two of said roombas crashing into each other with the item between them. i snapped up the 3700x of course, i love being able to window shop in the damage area :D
I got a Logitech g413 keyboard for £32, a Logitech g433 headset for £30 and 16gb of 3000 MHz DDR4 for £54 from amazon warehouse so I say it is worth it
Well at least it has free ram slot, so you can up it to 8Gb in Dual-channel, which would help quite a bit. Also many people will most likely use it for games like League of Legends / Dota which will run just fine (even CS:GO should work just fine on Dual-channel 8GB Ram).
I've now bought 5 warehouse deal gaming notebooks (Four Razer and one Alienware) - Two were absolutely mint and two had a few tiny / minor use marks on them..... I.e. likely buyer's regret and had no issues with them. The fifth was slightly marked up and the fans were filthy. #5 went back and I just ordered yet another one and it was also amazingly close to new. Interestingly TWO of them had the prior purchaser's data on them, I had to factory reset them. Your mileage may vary. If there is any lesson here - WIPE any machine you plan to send back though, I was kind of shocked two of them were packed with someone else's stuff !
The only thing holding me back from buying razer on amazon warehouse deals is that it comes with absolutely no warranty on Razer's part and only 30 days Amazon Warehouse return warranty. Knowing Razer is very much hit or miss - how did you trust to buy 4 razers off the knowing you had no warranty and they could turn into a paper weight within a year?
@@peterc6559 They were cheap enough vs new that I was willing to risk it. Since my original comment though - I was able to use the original warranty on one with razor to get a fan and ac adaptor replaced.
One very important point I missed in the video is that Amazon explicitly states these products have no manufacturers warrenties. You can only return it based on Amazon's return policy. That does add an extra level of risk. So please bear that in mind if you are thinking about it. Sorry for missing that, and thanks for watching! 😁
Amazons "policy" does not override law its a common scam retailers have to get out of returns. I know its a grey area on the rights with manufacturer but if they are basically saying these are new they can't then say theres no warranty.
I bought this exact same laptop but with a ryzen 5 3500u and 12gb of ram for 500cad . Open box from best buy and it was in great condition . Also the nvme in my is 512gb
Working @amazon. i can't disclose any details, but warehouse deals are usually unused product which had damaged packaging from storing , or were sent back from buyers with only the box opened. Amazon does not resell PCs, which have been set up by users, because there is no way to tell if they have been tampered with. Also the return policy varies from country to country and your mileage may vary.
I apoligize for having written so much, I'll put a TLDR at the bottom.
I'm currently watching this using the laptop in the video. I also bought it from an Amazon warehouse deal and paid 367.34$CAD in November 2019.
Since the purpose of you video was to evaluate the quality of Amazon warehouse deals, I'll say that I received mine in the original packaging and in a condition that is indistinguishable from brand new. I've had nothing but good expericences with warehouse deals in Canada. The items usually come in the original retail packaging and are always in like-new condition. If I want to buy something and it is available as a warehouse deal, I will ALWAYS buy the warehouse deal, even if the difference is only a few dollars.
I have some family that usually spends the winter in Florida and have ordered some warehouse deals from there. Their experience could not be further from the one I have had. They told me that they have ordered twice from warehouse deals in the US and have, both times, received a product so dammaged that it might as well be landfill.
Regarding the computer, I've been using mine pretty much every day for university, so the battery has been charged and drained once or twice a day since I've owned it. The battery now lasts just over 3 hours, which is enough to attend one full course on battery, if barely. If I forsee using it for more than 3 hours, I'll bring the charger which, thankfully, is very compact.
Last week, I took mine appart last week to clean it and put in some new thermal paste. I noticed all the same things you did (spare ram slot , usused 2.5in drive bay (I wish they extended the battery in there or provided the drive adaptor).
I looked back at the Amazon listing for it and noticed that is has "AMD Radeon RX Vega 3 discrete graphics". The Vega 3 is an integrated GPU, so that phrasing would be misleading to someone less knowledgeable. There is one interesting thing I noticed when I took it appart. The heatpipe has plates that make contact in two different places. The first point of contact is the CPU-iGPU combo, located furthest from the fan. The second spot looks like a soldering ball grid array on the motherboard. It makes contact on this second point using a thermal pad (approx 1mm thick). I'm not sure if it means that there is something mounted on the other side of the motherboard or that it's just a mounting point for a dedicated GPU in a higher-end model. I think it's hilarious that the heatsink is this relatively big heatpipe running approximately 6in/15cm along the motherboard, but that it leads to a single fin next to the fan.
I'm considering getting a cheap 4gb DIMM to put in it. I saw that there are drive adaptors available for 15-20$ and I'm considering that upgrade as well, but I'm not sure if it would provide enough power for a hard drive. Right now, my solution to the storage problem it to just leave a small flash drive plugged into it at all times. It's not very elegant, but it works.
TLDR : I bought this laptop in late 2019 for 26% off MSRP. It arrived like new in original packaging. In my experience the warehouse deals on Amazon Canada are good, but Amazon US will send you landfill (n=2). The listing incorrectly states that is has Vega 3 discrete graphics (it's an iGPU). Laptop has 2 upgrade options, RAM and storage (requires adaptor). After 1.5 years of daily use, laptop battery lasts 3 hours. The charger is very compact.
ADT-Link M.2 Key M NVMe External Graphics Card Stand Bracket with PCIe3.0 x4 Riser Cable 25cm 50cm 32Gbs
0:30 "A box filled with war crimes and sadness"...I didn't know you could buy loot boxes in Raid: Shadow Legends
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@@DawidDoesTechStuff gottem.
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You could do a video on upgrading the ssd and memory to improve performance
seconded
The full retail box has a connector kit for the 2.5 area. Adding more storage would involve removing the m2 drive because of the lack of this kit.
I'll wage aside from more memory it's probably cpu bound & changing the ssd wouldn't make a jot of difference.
I'd be interested in seeing what a complete fresh Windows install would do just in case there's any Asus crapware on there.
@@norfolkngood8960 the a412d I got has a Sata based m2 drive. Beats me if the slot supports nvme
Third
"A box filled with war crimes and sadness"
That describes ~90% of things you can buy on amazon in the first place...
Yes imagine moving into a new great place buying a sofa that you and your mate love to find it’s only cushions!! Oh the dispair
I was the one who made the like count 69
I had the same laptop i put another 8gb stick of ram in and i was able to get gta to work at 1080p. I was kind of surprised.
That's vwey promising! I'm excited to see what it can do.
Yeap, APUs really love more Ram
Dual channel memory does wonders to ryzen APUs
@onii-chan's manko Thanks all topped up again....lol
I like how this channel doesn't really follow the boring trend of reviewing / comparing current high end graphics cards and processors which very few are willing to buy; Focusing instead on more realistic and useful goals like showing how to save some money when buying a laptop.
So yeah, keep the videos coming!
Your similes, metaphors, and tongue in cheek descriptions make your videos just that bit more excellent. You have a way with words that makes your work that bit more fantastic. You offer things others can't.
Having purchased 2 1440p monitors from Amazon Warehouse recently I can say I'm genuinely impressed with the deals available and will be looking out for them in future. The only thing wrong with them was the box had been opened, both had all the orignal protective labels still attached. I saved well over £100 on each one so a good deal if ask me!
Thats why they can't sell them at full price even if it's just the box that's been opened they have to sell used-like new
"A box filled with war crimes and sadness" that 1366x768 screen is exactly that
I got weird dirt cheap RX 580 from Amazon warehouse. It had a weird underclocked bios. So my guess it had been used for mining. I reflashed the right bios and it works great now.
Oh cool! Thanks for the feedback. Luckily you had the ability to reflash it. It would have sucjed if somebody bought it not knowing how to deal with it.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Yes It worked when I first got it, but I ran a few benchmarks on it and it was under performing for that card (rx 580 nitro+ 4gb). So I reflashed it and it worked great. I thought about putting a bad review on it but it was like 50% cheaper than any other rx580 I'd seen so I didn't bother. Btw I found out about reflashing amd GPUs from your channel,so thanks.
Try to replace the thermalpaste when you gonna try to get the max out of it.
Oh yeah! I may even end up starting an AIO to it. 😅
ASUS: In Search Of Incredible - Ahh, keep searching!
Hahhaa
Haha!!
In search of margin
yup, mine automatically reverted to default factory level at each start up, it never found Incredible :\\
@@sobreaver yours is probably faulty, if you haven’t send it to warranty and see what they see
I bought several warehouse deals over the last few years, a monitor, tools, even fotography film with slightly damaged packaging for almost 30% off. I was never disappointed.
I just bought 1 165hz monitor and I got 3 lol
As a former warehouse packing employee (in Vancouver too I may add) was that the warehouse deals that came down the conveyor belt were in 1 of 2 types of condition. 1 was a obviously opened box and usually a bit rough looking but it looked just fine as a used product. The second was a box that was absolutely wreaked and is barely being held together with duct tape.
sorry for the late reply. does that mean the laptops are in brand new condition but the box isn’t resealable condition so it’s a great deal or would you say a good number of the laptops were in used condition & looked beat around slightly. as someone who’s new to expensive computers i’ve always feared buying a used one as all my friends seem to treat theirs roughly even though they’re thousands where I treat my $800 laptop like a baby & has lasted me 5 years & even outlasted it’s own charger
From what I've seen, I wouldn't say in "brand new condition" since they often have some sort of minor damage to them. Most often that I myself saw was scratches or a small dent. Honestly I would still consider it a good deal as it's easy enough to cover up minor scratches. If you're looking for a laptop in pristine condition, you're better off going to best buy or Amazon.
@@fuyerwolf3117 that’s good to know thanks a lot, i’ll definitely check a couple out when they’re on sale again
I've got 3 of the 8" amazon fire HD tablets from warehouse deals and all of them were rock solid with nothing wrong that I could find. I've bought a couple motherboards from warehouse deals as well and the worst thing I had happen was a missing AMD backplate, with no io shield. That motherboard was like 44 dollars for a 90 dollar MSRP motherboard though and it was stated in the listing that it had missing parts. However I through it in a build and sold it, and the buyer is still happy with it.
"Amezen" lol I love ur channel and ur accent definitely improves ur channel
Haha!! Thank you! A bunch of people seem to think it's fake. 😅
LOL!!! Bro I just said the samething, so I'm glad I'm not the only one!!!
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Why would they think it's fake?
You sound like every other Canadian to me.
@@ultrademigod I'm am not born and raised Canadian, I just live there. 😂
@@ultrademigod In Canada we all sound different, It depends on the province. Not to mention immigrants also add to that diversity as well.
ahh the joys of gaming on a laptop. Such a prime experience 😊 My first gaming experience was playing Skyrim on my laptop.
oh waiting for the eternal loading screen when u got out of town lol
I really like it when you're the guinea pig to buy these questionable "deals" Dawid.
Thank you! I also enjoy doing these kinds of videos.
Do you have any idea on upgrading a MacBook 2011
On what I should do
Warehouse deals are utterly hit or miss. I've gotten stuff in like new condition, but I've also gotten a TV with a huge line/artifact. Luckily I tested the tv before I signed off on the delivery.
Wait you made the delivery driver/mail person wait to test it?
@@GreatMossWater Yup. For a "refurbished" TV, absolutely. Saved them having to send someone back to pick it up.
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*"All you need is a tiny gap to get a finger in and then you can get it going."*
NOICE.
Guy hacks in csgo
Dawid: you cant stand a chance in csgo competative here
Haha!! That mixed with the fact that I suck, means I don't stand a chance in any system. 😂
Doesn't look like he hacked, maybe he just has really good aim, or a not so obvious aim bot.
@@magenta3712 If he was hacking he would have died 10x quicker, he didn't even have that great of aim lol
I got my first SSD used on Amazon in like 2014. 250gig something something. Still going strong in my brothers system now
4:19 that cooling system lol, wireless heatpipes from the fan to the heatsink 😂
Bro I have similar Asus laptop I has the most shitty cooling ever seen. The fan just blows air over a small heat mounted on top of ryzen 5-3500u, which the size of the dye! As far as I can it doesn't even have heat sink at least this one has!
Performance is worst.
I know Vivobook is not meant for heavy use but that does raise question why even include such a CPU in the first place
When trying to get the most gaiming performance out of that laptop be sure to use Ryzen Controller to adjust tdp and temp limit, you get quite a bit more performance like that.
Dawid, thanks again for an very entertaining video. FYI, I purchase quite a few items from the Amazon Warehouse and it appears that the vast majority of their products have never been used. My experience is that the Like New are just returns like an Open Box item which has never been used. Some, like graphics cards are far less dodgy. I recently picked up an ASUS ROG Strix RX 5600 XT OC Edition Gaming Graphics Card for only $255 vs the new price of $340 at Newegg. I will gladly take my chances on things like graphics cards and RAM, but am somewhat leery of items like HDDs and SSDs. That being said, one can always run diagnostics on them to determine if they have been abused.
At first glance I thought this was just another amazon pallet video. But it was much better than that. Another great video Dawid!
My whole system (minus the 9900k) was ordered through amazon warehouse. Great luck with everything! Gigabyte aorus z390 master, asus strix 2080 ti, phanteks evolv x case. Pretty much everything was in the original box, only the boxes were slightly damaged. The deal of deals was the 2080 ti for 950$
Warehouse deals may also mean the original box is not included or is severely damaged, but the actual product is ok. Can also mean a customer returned it because they just didn't like it. Maybe the original documentation got lost, a number of reasons why it's a warehouse deal and not necessarily reflecting the condition of the actual product.
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You have just exactly described why I chose an older, refurbished Intel laptop over one of these. 4GB isn't enough _without_ the graphics card borrowing it, and even if it _did_ have its own VRAM, I'd rather have at least 8 GB of RAM. I now have 8 GB of memory in my Lenovo Thinkpad X240, which I got for about $40 cheaper on eBay. I don't mind not having a discrete GPU, since I have a desktop capable of playing all the games that I already have.
3:24 that's what she said
I so love this Channel! I need to update my sarcasm skills.
I've worked at Amazon in the past and for the most part, those warehouse deals are mostly open-box returns. most of its still brand new or light use, but since the buyer opened the box, they can't legally sell it as new. Also if what you get isn't the right item, they will usually refund it. It really is a good way to save a buck on new items
You start a series on this
There is no VAT or flat sales tax in the US, so it can't be figured into the price until it is determined where the item is shipping to. Each State has it's own sales tax rate, and some cities, like New York also have a sales tax of their own.
I've been about two for four on Warehouse.
> An action figure that was supposed to come with a posable companion wolf, but it had been swapped for a generic non-posable wolf. Ironically the "main" figure was in perfect shape, and all parts present. Not a terrible deal, but disappointed, as I wanted that little wolf figure.
> A reclining office chair that was literally NIB. Good deal here.
> A large box of BMS cards, where the vast majority of them were ruined. Enough of them survived to meet my needs, but was a bad deal.
> A small professional outdoor LCD monitor. The screen has an internal connection problem, but this is something I can work around. An acceptable deal. One of these days I'll pull it apart and see if I can fix the connection problem.
Postnote, while typing this comment my GPU has begun artifacting and I am now terrified. I can't afford to replace a GTX 1080.
4:02 "That is the inside of a laptop"
10/10 accurate review.
I have purchased a fair amount from the warehouse deals section. I've never received anything broken or anything with missing parts. It's largely items in like new condition with packaging too damaged for normal retail sale, sometimes repacked in nondescript boxes likely because the original packaging was damaged beyond use. Twice I've had items just not show up at all, while annoying isn't bad as this is Amazon and they just refund quick.
I bought an HP Envy 13 x2 three years ago from Amazon Warehouse in the US, as my wife wanted a specific model, and we brought it back to Canada. The screen flickered once in a while upon receiving it so I opened it up and reseated all the cables and reapplied thermal paste. It helped a little so I replaced the LCD cable (no effect), then the motherboard (no effect), then the screen (yay!), and it's worked fine ever since. I love fixing computers & electronics in general but it's a lot better if I know there's a problem when I buy it. The potential to save $400 was very enticing but I ended up paying 85% of the new cost but ended up with zero warranty for a 1yr old product AND had to buy another laptop in the meantime because the flickering ended up getting so bad. The silver lining is with the pandemic as I had a spare laptop for home learning.
I don’t recommend the warehouse deals, I bought a Samsung ssd came in doa, ordered a set of speakers and one was dead, I don’t think most of the returned items that go into the deals are ever actually inspected and just see a product looks good and send it on it’s way, so it would be a hit or miss with these deals so do so at your own risk, personally I’ll pass from now on
Theres a lot of warehouse stuff that actually never left the amazon warehouse. pretty much anything that the outer box is damaged ends up in warehouse deals
Bought my gpu from it a couple months ago, it was in brand new condition and works great. Saved $100
I have purchased many products from the Amazon Warehouse. The downside is that those products do not qualify for the manufacturer warranty. But the products still qualify for 30 day returns. I have also had to return a couple of items because they're missing parts. By the way, the Amazon Warehouse has now been renamed to Amazon Resale.
this is probably the only channel i enjoy re-watching episodes of.
I purchased a similar laptop on sale a little while back, something that you kind of can call ''introduction sale'' that one of the electronics and household appliance store here has for first two weeks of them starting to stock various products, a Lenovo ideapad s145 with a R3 3200u, 128GB nvme ssd, 4GB ram, and I upgraded it by putting in a 8Gb ram stick and a 2.5'' 500GB sata ssd, and it works practically perfectly for general media consumption and office work. [Edit to add this] It's definitively worth buying budget laptop if you're using it for office work, paying bills etc, and it's worth adding additional ram stick to make it run it's ram on dual channel, especially if you're a student or someone that want a windows pc on the go, without having to worry too much about loosing anything expensive. The laptop I got was brand new at around 450 CAD / Canadian $, With the ram upgrade I did fork out another 75 CAD or so, didn't include the 500GB ssd, since it's a old ssd that I had put into a external enclosure.
I love your videos, you really like to test random stuff, huh? ♡
I've had good luck, purchased over time 2 laptops and 2 monitors, all of which were fine, saved a bit of money. One of the monitors had cosmetic slightly visible weird smudges on the bezel and one laptop had a scratch on the outside. Otherwise all worked fine. I still think it's a dice roll.
Oh cool! Thanks for the feedback. That is a decent result though. But yeah, it is definitely still a roll of the dice. 👍
Came for the tech stayed for the sense of humor. "Could have ended with the invasion of Poland" lmao
These deals can be pretty shifty. 😂
Dawid przesadziles i feel offended by this cause im polish
I think thats how it is with all of us here. Found one of his early vids a few months back, stayed for, well... this!
I come for the humor and get confused about tech.
Seriously dude! I love your videos! They are so entertaining and informative in most cases
9:20 that's because taxes differ depending on location. Even cities within counties within states can have vastly different taxes. For example where I live the city adds an additional 4 percent ON TOP of the state tax for restaurant dining.
I've had more good than bad with Amazon Warehouse deals. I had one bad experience where I brought a medicine cabinet with a mirrored door on the front where the said door had one of the hinges completely broken. On the other hand I've brought stuff like computer wires and even some electronics like a computer monitor and they've been fine. Luck of the draw I guess :)
I've bought warehouse deals for other products and they have always been in good shape but not in retail packing.
I generally have extremely good luck with Warehouse deals. Bought headphones, monitors, motherboards, CPUs, RAM, VR headset (Samsung Odyssey+), phones (my Essential was $160, only a month or two after launch, just missing the charger), and tons more including my current 2080 Ti which had nothing wrong except for a tape peel on the box that made it look funky and saved me $138 USD.
Not all are returns, some are just packaging that was damaged in the warehouse.
The descriptions are generally very concise and accurate on what's wrong, and in the one case where the product didn't work, Amazon stood behind it and refunded the item.
I'm certain that there are definitely some really bad instances on Warehouse deals relatively frequently, but anecdotally with a few thousand extra dollars in my pocket over the years, I recommend at least trying to find Warehouse items.
I love the warehouse deals here from Amazon Germany. Germany has a no-exceptions 30 day return policy. Generally, products they are just brand-new but open box items.
I get lots of good deals from Amazon Warehouse, just a couple lemons lately with Philips HUE lights with dead batteries... Some interesting buyings for me are music-related books. People return them if they have an slight cover damage (perhaps they were for a gift?) and then you can get almost-new books with an interesting discount
I bought an Epson WF-7610 A3 all in one for £150 should've been £199. When it arrived it had a damaged panel (cosmetic) not mentioned in description but was otherwise mint even still had all the blue transit tape & peely bits, I contacted amazon they knocked another £50 off.
Epson were also running £100 cashback at the time so claimed that and got the printer FREE.
Still using it now, Epson still release firmware updates for it & it's excellent. Inks cost almost nothing via 3rd parties, best printer I've ever "bought".
I had some right garbage in the past too. I even had something that was a box of bolts to make it weigh correctly, inspected by amazon my arse!!
At the end of the day, it really depends on how much you are saving. I got a Razer pro 17 2020 with a 1TB SSD, 4k monitor and 2080 super-Q in Jan 2021, paying 2300 bucks (As of today, it's still selling at 2799.99), which is a great deal. Here's the catch: they didn't clear the system, and I had to contact the original owner to get the system unlocked and wiped. I was also able to learn from the original owner that why the item was returned and the condition it was in, which was pretty much brand new. It was a generally great and unique experience.
I've had a lot of good luck with Amazon Warehouse deals. I got an Acer Predator Helios 300 a few years back. For the spec it was going new for $1099 and I paid $875. I also got a Acer WMR headset for like $200. Amazon also has their "Renewed" deals as well, which is a lot like their Warehouse deals but they put a little more work into them. I got a VERY good deal on a pair of Sony WHCH700N headphones. Price new on them is in the ballpark of $200. I paid $70. All of these devices came practically new as if they were tried by snobs and returned because they didn't meet their haughty expectations. In any case, I've gotten a lot of good use out of them. I recommend these deals to people all the time.
Just used this feature for my first laptop for college thanks Dawid!
You have to be pretty careful with Amazon Warehouse deals. My "Like New" electric kettle was obviously used (coffee/teal drips all over the outside) and was missing the base so it didn't work at all. Similarly, half of my "Like New" Command Strips were missing. Lol. I wouldn't be surprised if people remove the RAM so buyer beware, but you can also get some decent deals if there's no "consumable" aspect to the product.
I got like 20% rebate on a motherboard using the Amazon Warehouse deal. That's quite the risk there, but it was like new and ended up being a great deal.
The inspected sticker doesn't mean squat. I bought a paper shredder once and the entire paper receptacle was cracked down the middle.
As far as US sales tax, its done at the state level. The amount differs by state and even locality which makes pricing much more difficult so they just leave it up to the consumer. I'm sure this also causes a consumers to spend more.
Since it’s a ryzen apu, you could increase the TDP of the cpu to 25-35W and overclock the iGPU with Ryzen Controller. Looking forward to that!
Nope the vivobook don't handle that. Sorry to say this but it will decrease the performance.
love ur work man...surprised u dont haev a million
I got a cheap laptop this way, after going way over budget on the desktop side of my upgrades a few months ago. This was basically my only way to get decent specs with decent odds that it would be in usable condition.
It arrived basically exactly as Amazon claimed it would, full working order but limited accessories, just had the power brick as far as that goes. Specs were as promised, and I get the performance I'd expect of those specs. Cosmetics were near perfect, I had to hunt to find a couple scratches- it was hard enough to find them that had they claimed it was cosmetically perfect, I would have forgiven them and not complained about the oversight.
I have actually gotten very good luck with Newegg open box and refurbished deals. My very first one was an open box of a LG 34 um 88cp but I picked up back in 2016. Retail for $1,000, got it for $560. It was in immaculate condition, I think somebody just opened up the box looked inside, said it was too big and sealed up and sent it back. I'm still using it to this day.
Last January I got an Asus strix 5700 xt, open box, for $330. Only thing that was wrong with it, is the PCI Express bracket look like somebody was trying to force it into their case and it bent it. I haven't vertically mounted to bypass the mounting pressure issue, and it feels like a golden sample because I could get some really good overclocks, and some really nice undervolts out of it.
Your analogies brighten my day, Dawid
I recently bought some stuff from amazon warehouse. Motherboard, two gpus, case fans. They said the mobo was "good" and had a scratch at the bottom, but when i looked it was just a small edge on one of the corners and the board worked fine. The others were "like new" and certainly looked and performed the part. One of he three fans was a little dusty but that was it. Saved just over $100 in all.
Well, you have to figure that if the product went out to someone and they opened the box or the product, it's no longer new technically. Even if they open a laptop, look at it, and close it back up and send it back. The fact that the factory seal or packaging has been opened is enough to say it's at best, an open box (but no brand new). Brand new, usually means still in the box, sealed. Perhaps instead of calling them items that do not meet their standards as new, they should just call them "Open Box" like everyone else. I've bought some Open box computers, and one "open box" camera lens and they worked out to be great products, worked great, and in most cases I saved anywhere from 10-20%.
Although I will say that between an open-box/return and a refurbished item (which also was purchased, used/opened, and returned either because of defect or someone changed their mind) I would take the refurbished, especially if it's refurbished by the mfr. At least that way if it's by the mfr, you know that a trained tech has looked at the item and certified it to be in good working condition , and any parts that needed replacing, were replaced with OEM parts.
The RivaTuner overlay don't work because of the new AntiCheat that is used in the Trusted Mode of cs. It is intended
Never had the guts to buy something really expensive used of Amazon, but i did manage to snatch a fairly good quality wireless bluetooth keyboard for my samsung tablet & saved $35 because the "items box has been cracked & batteries are missing". Still works just fine.
I've bought 2 motherboards from them like this and both were just as you experienced being basically new. I'd recommend the service.
I got a gtx 960 back in 2015 on Amazon warehouse. Still works, fine today. I use it in my media center computer now, but still runs well.
I like how the fan is not connected to the CPU / APU and cooling is based on airflow. I'd assume a fine finarray would help much more than that single heatpipe.
A couple of years ago at a place called Bargain Hunt when I was in Cincinnati for work I got an Asus ROG Laptop with a Skylake I7 and a GTX 960 that they got from Amazon Returns. The gimmick at this place was the longer they had something the more it was Discounted. (every 2 weeks) This Laptop was on the Bottom of the pile in their Electronics and I eventually got it for $200 (it was a $1700 Retail Laptop)
Let me tell you a story about Amazon warehouse.
I've bought twice from amazon warehouse. First was a razer basilisk ultimate that was a standard basilisk that someone cut the cord, returned to amazon and kept the real thing.
Second was a logitech G935 headset that had a been swapped for some old but almost identical looking G933 that stank of cigarettes.
TLDR: Don't buy from amazon warehouse. Its all the shit people either didnt want or scammed amazon returns policy.
At least everything seems serviceable from the bottom. Some older ASUS laptops were terrible in which you had to pry the top keyboard off to do anything with it.
I'm down to see what improvements you can get out of this laptop, for gaming. "A box full of war crimes & sadness" is a great marketing line for a company named "Woot", btw. Great video, Dawid.
Nice video Dawid. I bet a lot of these returns are people not understanding that the system is just starved for ram.
for this to be accurate, you would have to buy several products as some will come opened but untouched, others will have been slightly used. and for the 3 items i bought off amazon warehouse which one was a gtx 1660super sc ultra, i was able to register it on evga website for full manufacture website.
Bought a meaty last gen Asus Gaming laptop (RTX3080, 12 gen intel CPU) from Amazon warehouse last year and it was pristine. The return was probably based on the silicon lottery and 'some gaming laptops run hotter than others'. The issue was the CPU running a little hot (common in 12 gen and over), so a bit of throttlestop and fixed, plus I saved about 25% of the normal price at the time (and about 50% of the rrp!).
Bottom line; Warehouse deals are often better than ebay because the items are usually open-box with very little wrong with them (and if they are more than that, you can just return it) plus the price is often less than ebay for a less used system... and the seller is much less variable and potentially scammy than ebay private sales!
Thank you for spending this money so we dont have to! I realize these videos cant be super profitable (if at all) so I appreciate you homie.
You still haven't checked out that cooler i recommended you, like a year ago :D
Nice to see, how much you've grown
Wow! Thanks Dawid for this video! Great content as usual!
I bought a mad catz mouse from the amazon warehouse in uk a few months ago. The mouse was new, the packaging not. Saved over 50% of the price new, couldnt be happier.
It would be great if tax was included in the price, but different areas in the US have different sales tax rates so the price changes depending on where it's shipped.
My single Amazon Warehouse experience, I bought a white fan which had 15% off and listed like new - it was pink!!!
A warehouse deal I got which worked out really well was a RTX 2060 Super (at the time, it was the cheapest RTX 2060 Super i could find online from UK retail). Albeit, it actually ended up coming from Germany to the UK (location wasn't listed). But it works perfectly. The only downside was it was just the box. No external packaging - so everyone could see what it was - and the box was pretty wrecked with scuffs, stickers and holes.
Cost me £300 - the price of a new RTX 2060 (Non Super).
I've bought a couple of cases from the warehouse and both were new and unused but half price.
We don't seem to have as big a selection here in the U.K.
I bought a redragon k585 keyboard from a warehouse deal, I do not believe it was a return though, I think it was damaged in their warehouse. It came in its original plastic cradle, but the box was missing. The corner of the plastic look as if it was crushed and pushed back out. And I also got a bunch of rubber pads and screws that didn't belong to the keyboard, a little search and I found they came from some really expensive iPhone stand by searching the review card which also was not for my keyboard.
I went for a warehouse deal when I bout my define mini c. It came in the original box and had all the little bits with it, manuals et al. The only way you'd know it wasn't know was the little scratches on on side panel and the generous amount of dust inside, but defo worth the £30 saving.
I also have an asus vivobook 14 with me right now, and... Gaming on it.. Is really terrible
0 heat pipes... Vega 8.... Not a good combination... Just a big chunky heatsink for the apu
You can try and throw in some heat pipes, I'd love to see the results after you perform this mod
You usually can set amount of video memory in bios, it looks like 512 by default, but probably can be up to 2 GB
I know someone who already purchased something on Amazon, sent it back, then bought it back once it was "refurbished".
I bought a Amazon refurbished Dell Ryzen 5 (Step up from what you have) for little over $300 with the intent of playing with it (upgrading) to learn, and possibly destroy. It came with 4GB and it was pretty lame, actually really lame. I put 16GB in it, and applied all the windows updates and now its really nice, and I'm using it for my daily driver now. I was shocked with a little more RAM would do, but it is an APU sharing RAM. It also came in a generic brown box. I have worked at Dell in the past, and I know a percentage of returns were never turned on, but they can't sell it for new if the box was opened, they don't want to take a chance with a bad customer experience and ironically the returns gets more QA testing than the ones coming off the line, at least back then they did.
That little APU needs some good ol' dual-channel RAM to show what it's capable of. Can't wait to see those upgrades! Greetings from Argentina :D
Please try to give the laptop some new performance! As someone who has had a laptop for around 6 years, I'd be very interested in knowing if the differences are worthwhile or not!
3 months ago I constantly refreshed amazon because everything good was out of stock. I found 1 (1!) amazon *used* MSI B450 board that I wanted so I jumped on it. I had to have it immediately because everything is all about me. When it arrived it was obviously brand new but the box was missing. The board works great. So in my experience amazon is doing a good job selling you something in better condition than what you thought you were getting. Of course, your mileage may vary.
it is hit or miss. warehouse deals = what a tired mofo wanting to home 5 hours ago thinks is damange/was on the floor where the robots where. i saw an x570 asus taichi that looked perfect except it was missing its anti static sleeve...., a ryzen 3700x with a tiny tear in the box, an rx 570 with a third of the box mushed in (should be fine, no rattling when i checked) and an offbrand 950w power supply that looked mint. i guarantee 80% of whats in warehouse deals is because a giant weight bearing roomba dragged it across the concrete floor for half a mile or two of said roombas crashing into each other with the item between them.
i snapped up the 3700x of course, i love being able to window shop in the damage area :D
I got a Logitech g413 keyboard for £32, a Logitech g433 headset for £30 and 16gb of 3000 MHz DDR4 for £54 from amazon warehouse so I say it is worth it
Well at least it has free ram slot, so you can up it to 8Gb in Dual-channel, which would help quite a bit.
Also many people will most likely use it for games like League of Legends / Dota which will run just fine (even CS:GO should work just fine on Dual-channel 8GB Ram).
I've now bought 5 warehouse deal gaming notebooks (Four Razer and one Alienware) - Two were absolutely mint and two had a few tiny / minor use marks on them..... I.e. likely buyer's regret and had no issues with them. The fifth was slightly marked up and the fans were filthy. #5 went back and I just ordered yet another one and it was also amazingly close to new. Interestingly TWO of them had the prior purchaser's data on them, I had to factory reset them. Your mileage may vary. If there is any lesson here - WIPE any machine you plan to send back though, I was kind of shocked two of them were packed with someone else's stuff !
The only thing holding me back from buying razer on amazon warehouse deals is that it comes with absolutely no warranty on Razer's part and only 30 days Amazon Warehouse return warranty. Knowing Razer is very much hit or miss - how did you trust to buy 4 razers off the knowing you had no warranty and they could turn into a paper weight within a year?
@@peterc6559 They were cheap enough vs new that I was willing to risk it. Since my original comment though - I was able to use the original warranty on one with razor to get a fan and ac adaptor replaced.