Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra Camera vs Full Frame Pro Camera
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2024
- How do the Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra's 50 megapixel Raw files compare to the Raw files from a 45 megapixel full frame camera? In this video we compare and contrast several different landscape photography raw photos taken with both the Samsung S24 Ultra and the Nikon Z7II. We compare the images side by side in Adobe Lightroom and I give my thoughts on how these two cameras perform. Enjoy!
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CHAPTERS
00:00 - Intro
01:47 - In Lightroom
02:36 - Samsung 5x Lens Photos
04:31 - Underexposure Test
07:48 - Overexposure Test
08:56 - ISO Comparisons 5x Lens
11:58 - Samsung 1x Lens Photos
15:53 - Shadow Boost 1x Lens
16:45 - ISO Comparisons 1x Lens
18:00 - Final Thoughts
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People nowadays forget that in the and of day this is a PHONE. Just appreciate what an amazing quality photos you are able to make with a phone!
Thing is, it really is mind blowing how good phones are. Obviously when boundaries must be pushed, the phones quality becomes Morecambe obvious. For me, a external camera is essential since astrophotography is photography of stellar objects using a telescope so camera choice is important. External cameras and cameras in general beat phones (dur to the mountinf system to lens). In the worst case, people brag about their fake x100 time zoom S23 and it is annoying and ridiculous but what ever.
It's not a phone, far from it. It's a super compact, powerful computer
It is more a text computer then a phone. I don't see so many people who use this thing as a phone nowadays.
Yes, the fact that the it is a phone is amazing. Let's also not forget that the phone is about $1,000 less than the camera.
@OP, Nah, it's not just a phone, with a price tag of 1500€, it has to be more than a phone, to justify the cost of owning.
Nice comparison. Finally someone who takes almost 1:1 identical shots for the comparison. Good work!
Yeah, I haven't seen someone do such a well-done 1:1 comparison. This guy did a 💯 job.
Most people out there who compares cameras to this phone just shows a side by side with no zoom on the photos to show the detail in both cameras.
Российский обозреватель «Филл» делал тоже самое на ютубе пару месяцев назад) Nikon vs несколько телефонов.
Agreed, nice and straight forward. Would love one of these a year. And would prefer comparisons with less phone software processing on the image, like the optional AI processing on the Samsung.
I’m excited to see the day phone cameras truly can compete with DSLRs, maybe with just a lens adaptor added 😁
@@ajnazatam I don't think that's going to happen without a lot of AI processing, in the end it's simply physics that limit the smaller sensors
Agreed a lot of comparison clearly unfair since the camera is using a lens that no smartphone ever had, better angles on camera or the one who compared it have zero photography skills lol
To be comparing any phone with the capability of going against a real camera is just mind blowing to me. Great job!
I second this@@Globetrotter-1
@@Globetrotter-1 compared to the Sony A7 IV, it does suck :)
please bothe of you ..go and suck outside please @@Globetrotter-1 @Arcticfox7
@@bb-ioan you are laughable because the sensor in the Z7 II is actually better both at DR and noise that what SONY put in the A7 IV! It seems you don't know your stuff...
The sole purpose of this video is to show that any phone, in fact the most powerful phone with 3-4-5-6-7 cameras doesn’t have the capability to go against a real camera 😂
The simple fact that we can compare the S24 Ultra PHONE camera to FF Nikon Z7II speaks volumes. The FF sensor is more forgiving and has a better dynamic range, that is given. But with careful setting S24 (also S23) will give you very good to excellent images. If you want less default sharpening of the pictures you should download free Samsung Camera Assistant and with this app adjust sharpening to "Medium" (Picture softening), something that I use and recommend. P.S. I have Nikon D750 and Samsung S23.
This simple setting is not carried out in any test or comparison. It would be embarrassing if a smartphone beat the expensive competition, right? 😉
@@riccizepmeusel6899 A phone physically can't beat it. Lol layman fanboys.
@@Desert-edDave but with software they might
@@Desert-edDaveMaybe if you print the picture, but if you're going to post it on social media like Instagram, it probably doesn't matter at this point. Your scene capturing skills are going to matter far more than the camera you're using.
This is mainly due to how nobody prints their photos. Like yeah no shit, if you only view your images on a phone screen it's going to look decent no matter the camera.
The main issue I've always had with smart phone cams is the dynamic range and the over sharpening. Kills images when going for Landscape shots. Great video
Try it with another phone. Google pixel is good 🔥
@@Maksp still the dynamic range, depth of field, the color science, the over sharpening and fake moon shots ( samsung) on a cellphone still have a long way to go.. compared to a simple point and shoot.. cell phones are unbeaten.. but an actual camera with a sensor at least 10 times the size of a cellphone is going to get alot more data from the picture than a cellphone will ever will... now if you like to do pictures for like instagram and facebook.. go ahead cellphone is the way to go! but if im taking pictures of my kids graduation,, a machine dedicated to capture lifes moments in its best form...a Canon, Sony, or Nikon is the way to go!
@@MakspHave you ever use FF dslr or milc camera?
@@Maksp Well, it is only "good". The DR is directly determined by the effective size of each pixel. That is why phones are tailing far behind a real cameras.
the pixels can only output 12mp, which is a bit low for many use cases@@Maksp
considering the prices of both, the ability to carry around, the progress made in the latest years, phones are getting really really good.
your comparing a phone to a camera! to be honest i was expecting the nikon to look way better ! xD
i guess when the iso goes up then the real test shows but its pretty nice to see where tech is going
Small sensors do great in good lighting. I have a small sensor bright camera with 1200mm zoom - in ideal light, it takes great pictures. But once the lighting gets poor, it falls apart.
I think if you can download the images on a computer and view them side by side, you’ll definitely see the difference
TH-cam compression might helped Samsung's
You are right. Compare in Bad light condition and you will see that phones cannot beat physiks. In bad light condition a Phone needs Up to 3 Seconds frames or stack a Lot of frames where my 75 mm can make single frames
and nikon did way better actually, much more detail, samsung obviously not close to 50mp
I would love to see comparison with the standard RAW from Pro mode. They aren't oversharpened and they're more like RAW from an actual camera.
if the "mode" it is in matters, it's not an actual RAW file as is on a dedicated camera, but rather a processed mess that attempts to do what dedicated (actual) cameras do.
@@Desert-edDaveYou can get the raw file, but only in pro mode. It's not like the phone tries to create a raw file, it's the real raw file. The "expert raw" is more like a processed image than an actual raw file. Get it?
Expert RAW is essentially computational RAW that outputs JPEG/RAW hybrids. That's why in the underexposure tests the Samsung falls apart introducing weird smudgy, blotchy artifacts and color casts when you push the exposure up while the Nikon doesn't. Photos from Expert RAW are definitely better than regular JPEGs but I wouldn't call them true RAW files as they have many characteristics of smartphone JPEG processing, which sort of defeats the purpose of shooting in RAW in the first place. It's really only useful for scenes with very wide dynamic range, low-light scenarios where Pro mode tends to introduce far more noise or shooting in 50MP as the 50MP samples I've shot just in Pro mode on my S23U are somehow less detailed than the 12MP samples even at base ISO and Expert RAW's processing seems to fix this issue. I'd personally steer clear of Expert RAW if you shoot in RAW often
Since Feburary 2023 ProMode does not produce useable raw any more, it has the same dynamic range as the jpg and Adobe De-Noise can't work them because they are to much preprocessed.
@@donnawetter1513 This is false for my S24 as of now, though. Also, you can disable most processing. Pro give you much better dynamic range than jpeg if you shoot raw, I haven't compared it to ExpertRaw though because on internet there are comparisons already and ExpertRaw is pretty bad on those, so this video should be remade.
I love that this was done with the same model of phone AND Camara I have. What a fun coincidence... Great vid btw
Haha that's awesome
Samsung does have a "Pro" setting with ISO, shutter, EV, white balance settings and selective focus. People who uses cell phones wants that immediate satisfaction of having the pictures and sharing them to social media. I've blown up an image to poster size using a Samsung image and it held up well. Each camera has it's niche and using either one is fine.
Finally someone competent to show a decent test between a camera and a smartphone... I liked the mention of the diaphragm informing that we get a greater depth of field in cameras and in smartphones the aperture is fixed. Nobody mentions this...
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Samsung used to have a bi-variable aperture in some of their older phones (e.g. Galaxy S9). With phones getting larger sensors I would like to see that make a return too, otherwise there can be insufficient depth of field.
Excellent video. I'm looking forward to having a camera in my pocket that can perform like that, even if it's not all that the Nikon could be. Just always having that luxury of being able to grab something at that quality on your person all the time is awesome.
amazing comparison, especially by using the RAW files of the S24 Ultra and the Nikon. If possible it would be interesting to see a similar comparison between the S24 Ultra and Iphone 15 Pro Max, using the RAW files of both with Dynanmic Range test.
Good idea, thanks!
I would be interesting to see the comparison once Samsung fixes their RAW files.
The problem with phones is they don't create an immersive experience. As soon as you get into Photography with a phone you will be instantly be sharing your photos and you've lost the moment you've lost the pure joy of taking photos.
if only they'd remove the horrible sharpening. After all, Raw should be just that, RAW! They can photo stack all they want for color / dynamic range, but why did they have to sharpen a RAW file?!!
@nevvanclarke9225 personally I disagree
I think that's more about the person (or what they're wanting to achieve) than the equipment.
Really appreciate this comparison I was looking for 👍
Great video! 4:00 I take serious consideration to zoom in 200%, instead of 1:1 because a lot of professionals zoom into 200% when fine tuning their images.
The power of large DSLR sensors is still impressive when viewing a perfectly sharp photo at double the size, which is where smartphone cameras will always fall short.
Wow, in good light these cameras perform so well for years already. Amazing what phone cameras can do.
Speaking as someone who still lugs a camera around, this was reassuring! It would be interesting to see a comparison of "straight" raw files (i.e not combined). With the under-exposed shots in particular, it looks like the phone's software just didn't have enough data to play with.
Amazing review👏👏, it is nice to see a proper photo comparison between smartphone camera vs full frame camera. I love it!
Thanks for the review! For the phone, the pictures are acceptable, but 5x is definitely behind the primary camera. I moved from a large camera to a Sony a6600, but in some cases, the camera is still not very practical (kids walk). Knowing that the phone is getting closer with quality is excellent. I will wait to swap my camera for a phone, but for quick walks, reasonable alternative.
Great comparison to clear my thoughts all time, thank you 🎉❤
Very good comparison. It would be interesting to see what happens with the regular RAW files since I assume that the over sharpening is part of the "expert" raw files function.
In general - a phone camera is for posting small images to social media, unless you are shooting at daylight with a correct exposure
Why do you say that? It's not like you can't work with phones just like a pro camera. If you're shooting at night, you simply increase the exposure and always shoot at ISO 50. Exposure bracketed 50MP RAWs look great when stitched and processed manually.
@@MarkoMood Go ahead an adjust aperture on a phone lens... oh yea, there is none, it's entirely software-based. 😆No, you can't 'work' phones like a 'pro(re: real)' camera, try to 'work' another lens on there. 🤣. Also , FYI, ISO is more akin to a measurement of gain, not light sensitivity like ASA in the film days. Software emulating is always going to sacrifice something. There's a reason why cameras are used for actual (more than mere snapshots) photography and phones are considered toys by comparison. Live with both (e.g. have experience on the topic) and you'll only pick up the phone to snap a photo if you don't already have the camera nearby.
Real comparison by Real expert. This kind a video is what I was looking for
Thank you so much! This is the comparison I've been waiting for. It would be interesting to analyze the standard raw mode as well, to examine the dynamic range differences between standard and expert raw, and to see if, with fewer computational tricks, the 5x lens can capture more detail.
Additionally, it would be interesting to review images downsampled to 25 megapixels, which is still an acceptable resolution for printing, and to see if the detail loss compared to Nikon is still noticeable.
Was also curious to see the standard raw. The AI blend of expert raw would make sense that finer details would be smoothed out was sort of disappointed we didn't get an apples to apples look at a single shot raw photo
Really interesting video about a subject people asked about. Thanks!
For the 99% of population this is black magic 😁 . 0.1% of the phone users know basics of the photography.
Great comparison, thanks for doing this! I think the Samsung is delivering incredible results for the size of the sensor and lenses.
Thanks! Yeah I agree… great results considering the sensor & lens size on the phone
The problem with phone Photography is that it's not immersive it's instantaneously and have you ever seen anyone put their phone into Aeroplane Mode when they're taking photos no they will soon become distracted by that Instagram pop-up all that Facebook notification people instantly then reply to that and then go back to taking the photo this is why I do not recommend phones for Photography and it's got nothing to do with the quality of the photo or the image or the sensor or anything else it's the purpose of immersion.
agreed - wait until they introduce a new 1" sensor on the S25 :)
@@ZJMichaels simply amazing.. imagine hiking thru the woods and no having to carry a huge backpack and a massive Carbon tripod. Mind Blown!
The most detailed comparison between cellphone and FF 42mp above camera. Great work dude....
Great video, thanks a lot! I personally know that I would love to see a video comparison between Samsung's "normal" RAW files and ExpertRAW
Expert RAW is better! I'M Using 23U, only shot ExpertRAW!
ExpertRaw is a gimmick for pro photographers. You get more dynamic range but it's very digital looking with more artifacts.
I do find expert raw photos bit artificial and oversharpened. Normal raw looks good. I use normal raw photos.
THIS. I saw that on ExpertRAW you get nifty features like the virtual ND filters etc. But we CAN'T disable the processing there. Sometimes it looks awful. Also. if you notice, the RAW files on the normal Pro mode is like CRAZY big compared to the ExpertRAW RAW files. It's like it's not actually a RAW file. I saw that for one of my picture, I got below 10MB of ExpertRAW RAW size, compared to like 40MB on the Pro mode RAW. I think there is something going on there
@@White7561every raw file is cooked, in every pro camera or phone. How much, depends on company...
Great comparison! Please do another one with the regular pro mode, I feel like the pictures rather lose detail in expertRaw mode.
A great and realistic comparison.
In the photo with the waterfall, I noticed that the Samsung tends to have small artifacts (in the water).
I wouldn't do long exposures with it.
Did you test the "virtual" ND-filters on the phone?
I just came home from a week Snowboarding in Verbier Switzerland and made some amazing shots and 8k 30fps footage but did not test those ND settings yet.
I was wondering how to use them
"amazing" 8k shots, LOL
It's amazing from his experience and perspective,. What's with the "Lol"?? @@SMGJohn
Its been only 1 year , your video quality grows everyday
As a pro photographer, I was curious to see how your comparisons would hold up. Obviously amazing differences once you cranked the ISO, and yeah it's pretty darned good for a phone, but I still prefer my big large camera, haha.
For me it's nice to be able to take shots with something I can fit in my pocket
@@sharpasacueball "taking shots" is not really the intention of a "big large camera". Smartphones have however replaced point&shoot cameras, as was expected.
Great comparison! I am amazed by the photo quality of modern high end phones, but it was also interesting to see the cases where the quality broke apart
thank you very much for this analysis!
I would love to see a comparison of expert RAW vs. standard RAW from the Pro photo mode on the S24. The Expert RAW files are most definitely NOT RAW at all. I can take the same photo in Expert RAW and Pro mode on the standard camera app and the RAW from Expert RAW is 3-4 megs whereas the RAW from Pro mode is 40+ megs and is obviously a true RAW file. Great video and I look forward to seeing more from you on the S24.
This will be a good comparison to see.
Thanks. Yeah I am planning on doing a comparison like that
These are the comparisons we need.
Great video and representation of all those images is awesome, it's also interesting how far phone cameras have come.
For true professional results you can't go past a dedicated pro camera with at least a full frame sensor, imagine the comparison of full frame to medium format, size always matters 😊
It's incredible to me how we can literally take for granted these days, the Optics of a simple phone and not even a dedicated camera and yet it can do such remarkable things! I'm extraordinarily impressed exclamation point! Exclamation point!
Great video, but could you run this comparison again with the latest SW update and not using Samsung's RAW format?
I own a Z7ii and the 24-120 is one of my favourite lenses. I am also impressed by the image quality of the Samsung though, it is truly amazing. Thanks for the great video!
I've actually wondered how the cameras compare. But I haven't been willing to spend the money to get a real camera. I greatly appreciate this video. I have also wondered about the RAW features of the camera as well. Very nice comparison.
I refused to get a camera phone until someone put out a phone that had a decent camera. That turned out to be a Nokia N73 in 2007. It was only 5MP, but it had a decent lens and took good photos. Phone cameras has come a long way since then, especially the sensors and computational photography enhancements. It’s quite amazing what a phone can do these days.
That said, I just bought a Canon R10 (APS-C) camera because I really want the control you can get with a “real” camera and interchangeable lenses, plus the much greater light gathering capabilities of the larger lenses and sensors. It’s not nearly as convenient as the phone, which I always have on me, but for those times when I know I want to do some photography, I now have a solid option that I haven’t had since my 35mm film camera died. Opted for APS-C over full-frame or larger because of cost, size, and weight…and I’m not a professional photographer so I wouldn’t really get much more benefit from the full-frame or larger format.
thanks a lot for your great comparison.
please do it again with the normal RAW from the Samsung.
All the strange sharpening and artifacts in the Expert RAW are typical for them.
In the Pro mode you will get RAWs without this strange things but also with lower dynamic range because they are only from one picture and not multiple pictures.
greetings, Alex
agree about the sharpening issue. Probably from the Samsung sw. Remember somewhere about a shot at the moon where some AI tool from Samsung created fake bits and pieces on the moon as well.
I've tried it with the S24u in expert RAW.
It's important to turn the sharpening and noise reduction in Lightroom to zero.
It's still there but less.
I also add a little bit of grain to make it softer.
At the end of the day I decide if I need fine resolution I take Pro. If I need max. dynamic range I take expert RAW.
Always 50MP in RAW.
This is the perfect way to show how things compare - using images side-by-side and just plain ol' common sense.
While it's amazing that a phone (aka telecommunications device) can do, it still won't replace an actual camera with a huge sensor that has so much dynamic range and much more versatility at doing its job so well.
Great video bro. Subscribed. thank you.
A very well made comparison.
I also just purchased the S24 Ultra to replace my S21 Ultra and I also own the Nikon Z7ii. The detail that the 1x lens on the S24 resolves is pretty impressive. Now for low light, or as your comparison shows dynamic range, the Nikon quickly pulls away, but you have to think that this is just a cell phone and how far technology has come. The largest improvement that the S24 brought compared to my S21 is that it nails focus. My 108MP mode shots on the S21 were great when they were in focus, but it missed focus 50% of the time and when you're in bright sunlight it's hard to see if you have a keeper. Thank you for the comparison, I enjoyed it!
I'm impressed; didn't think it would hold up that well.
To be honest is pretty impressive that from a professional photography standpoint, a camera phone is not really that bad compared to a professional camera that costs almost the double! And by the way, those places where you took the shots are simply amazing! Most of them looks like a painting. Very picturesque.
Much appreciated your fine work. Thanks a lot.
Given that the S24U is capable of much more than just taking photos, the image quality is astounding! 😀 Thx for a great comparison!
Very interesting the ISO picture quality comparison! thx
Great comparison. Kudos to a fair review
Sometimes when shooting on some venue i have to adjust white balance quite heavily to make it right. Would like to see how a smart phone raw actually performs when the white balance in the raw file is way off and heavy correction is needed.
Really nicely put and informative video, job well done. One thing I'm really interested is how would that comparison look like if a picture of a moving subject was taken (Samsung is notorious for its slow shutter speed), have you already, perhaps, tried it?
Thanks! What type of moving subject did you have in mind exactly?
@@ZJMichaels Just a few photos of a dog/ cat (I was taking pictures and shooting videos of my 4y old kid), should be enough to see what Samsung did (if anything) to "fix" s23ultra focus and blurry photos. I'd say, at best, I was getting 3/10 results that were decent (s22u also had the same issue). Especially those afternoon-ish scenes, where lighting conditions were not perfect.
Great comparison by the way!
Astrophotography and general low-light shooting made me aware of the importance of electron well depth, which dictates the sensor's quantum efficiency, which is what constitutes dynamic range.
Between similar sized sensors of varying resolution, the lower resolution sensor would generally perform better in low-light conditions simply because it can hold a higher number of electrons in each of it's pixel wells.
My impressions shooting outdoors with the Pixel 8 Pro are about the same: the main lens on 1x and with good light can make some pretty good photos, but as soon as the light gets worse or you want to zoom, the quality falls apart quickly. Thanks for the comparison.
Thanks for the info. I've haven't tried a Pixel phone yet, just Apple and Samsung. Does the pixel 8 pro have any stand out features that you like?
I like the macro capabilities and overall, I think it's the smartphone with the best colors from what I've seen @@ZJMichaels
Nice. I may have to check it out sometime
Quick question! I see the shutter speed varies between the devices. Does that have a say in the final quality?
I have a kit weight around 4 kg when I travel 5d mark4 plus the holy trinity lenses and boy it will takes away some of the fun part of hiking and exploring all day long. It seems in just a few years a phone will be enough for normal prints like 7x5 and I won't have any back pain at the end of the day.
Imagine, a dedicated video camera and a smartphone comparing , they are almost the same in quality, how much smartphones tech evolved these days, awesome
Amazing comparison 😊 But we have to notice that when you making picture you are watching it how it is. You are not zooming it. Only when you want to print it as a big wallpaper or something. Otherwise for me some pictures looks better on samausung.
I can totally tell, when you have control over your camera settings on your Nikon where you don't have the abilities on either a S24 or even my iPhone 15 Pro Max. They can only do so much in so many conditions. The shots I can do with my Mavic 3 Classic can bring shots out that only smart phones wish they could.
I wonder when we might have the ability on any smart phone where we can change the aperture and the even the ISO. The smartphones do a lot of the thinking for you. If you don't know how to do proper adjustments or even when and when not to add a filter you can really get some bad shots on a high end camera.
Love your comparisons. Very educational. Does put S24 and even other phones in their place, that still have a long ways to go when it comes to someone dishing out $1,000 dollars plus for a much higher quality camera. Your Nikon does amazing pictures!
Thank you for sharing this comparison I have 14 pro max and about to buy a mirrorless camera
The fact that we have to zoom in and pixelpeep nowadays to definitely say which one is better speaks volumes. Of course they are not even close. But just how much power we can just carry with us daily in our pockets is amazing.
“The best camera is the one you have in your pocket” is a quote I live by
i recently thinking to do the same! You make my life easier)) Thumb up!
still cannot beat the nature of sensor size to get more lights and details.
Never mind lenses.
That's just physics...there's only so much you can do with software (it became significantly better though). Bigger lense means it can capture more details.
Considering the price of a pro camera is more than double the cost of a phone, it did amazingly well.
Can get better results from a camera that costs the same as the phone. ;)
Then consider that rhe sensor in a phone is tiny small compared to any system cameras, including Pentax Q.
@@Desert-edDave Make an comparison, lets see that theory
@WhatThePheel I did the comparison between my Nikon D5300 and my Samsung S23U nothing much of a difference unless I started heavy color grading my files, the D5300 held up well but when I edited the Samsung it fell apart after using most of the color wheels. A camera body does not really matter in terms of quality, it's the lens that gives it power while smartphones is the Ai, it also depends on what you are capturing. Phones will be a hard pass to sports and wildlife photography, it may be good for landscapes but it is due that landscapes are generally dependent on the editing and hoe you see the photo. Phones will never beat a professional camera in a mile, Fuji cameras have better colors than any phone could offer, Nikon is generally just average, Sony has better video features, Lumix offers good video while maintaining cost, Canon has good color science and overall good photo quality. While phones on the other hand can offer quick and easy snaps but can never have the same complexity as a Full frame or a Medium format camera
@@CMaxFlms Exactly, if it were to be a kit lens. I'm sure the quality wouldn't be on par with the Samsung phone. But if you're using a 1k-2k+ lens, it just defeats the purpose of comparison.
Would love to see a controlled test, like a lightbulb, or some complicated studio lighting. Reality of viewfinder vs auto generation of phone in respect to color accuracy, etc.
Who makes photos with a phone using complicated studio lighting
We can also use 16 frame pixel shift on the Z8 to mimick the Samsung's pixel binned raw file
Great comparison, although not very fair considering the difference in the sensor size.
With my S20 FE I definitely feel the quality difference between the X1 lens to the much poorer quality X3 and X0.5, even though it has much lower resolution.
Good Video bro i got the Z8 and i love that camera Good to see another Nikon Shooter out there i also use Samsung I git the S22 Ultra
The Z8 is a photo and video BEAST. Such a great camera
The difference is that Samsung literally produces images (by calculating) while Nikon reflects the image in most accurate way possible with today's technology.
I would love to see comparision to real raw photos from smartphone. These "smart raw photos" that are actually AI output from multiple photos may be a good option for still nature photography but for anything with movement, you really want true raw photo from single exposure event.
I suggest multiplying the aperture value of your smartphone camera by its crop factor (usually 4.5-6, depends on a model) and then setting this value as the full-frame aperture value.
It's pretty impressive results if we consider that S24U is still "only" smartphone and it does very competitive shots in some scenarios here against 3x more expensive camera. But of course SW optimizations helps a lot here, because you just can't get over physical limits of those lenses used in S24U
Nice video... did you disable scene optimization on the Samsung?
Scene optimisation doesn't work in pro photo mode.
It should be off, all the time, if you care about the pics you wanna take. ;)
...nice, how u showed up, the differsences between manipulated shots from samsung and Real optical shots by optical cameras...
Thanks for the interesting comparison. But as a photographer, I must add that the Nikon 24-120 lens is capable of providing quality across the entire field on a 12-megapixel sensor. If you set the aperture to one stop, only the central part of the section can have enough quality up to 16 megapixels. So, to use a 24-megapixel sensor, you need a lens with much larger parameters, such as a 24-70/2.8 and shoot at f5.6. And only the sharpest fixed-focus lenses can open the sensor to 40-50 megapixels, and even then only at an aperture of F4-5.6. So, if you compare the result with 24-120 on the old 16-megapixel Nikon D4 SLR camera, you won't notice an obvious increase in detail. But I can assure you that even if you put a sharp fixed lens on this Nikon d4, the result will be much better than with the 24-120, which is not able to unlock the potential of even this sensor.
Autofocus and low light capabilities would be nice to see
Agreed. It’s an amazing phone, no doubt. But my a7iii plus my favorite prime lens ( 55mm f1.8) sells for a little more than this phone costs. I can take portraits of my kids that look like magazine shots and I’m a newbie.
Thats crazy how good the Mobilecamera is. You just have to know how to work it. Good video.
excellent video, can u perhaps do one with the pixel 8 pro?
From my experience, I feel the regular RAWs are more editable than ExpertRAWs.
ExpertRAWs start showing artifacts much earlier than normal RAWs.
ISO 3200 is pretty much like base ISO for a good full frame DSLR these days. On a phone - not so much 😂. That is what makes the difference. Plus the ability to use sharp wide aperture prime lenses in low light situations to capture more light while keeping motives sharp.
This is very interesting because I feel like the Samsung would definitely be beating the capabilities of my crop sensor Canon 80d, which is 8 years old now tbf. Maybe not when shooting at higher ISO and obviously I have a nice selection of lenses but still, pretty mind blowing the level of detail and sharpness when cropping in, which I'm positive I do not get even with Canon L lenses.
Phones have come a long way.
Really great job! Can you plz do it with the Xiaomi 14 ultra too?
Did you heard about Motioncam Pro? Could you do this video again but with Motioncam RAWs ( photo mode, GPU render off ) since Samsung baked jpeg xl into DNG container?
Either or the real difference is missed on those who will find an excuse to say theirs is better. My z 8 allows me to use depth of field capture birds in flight and create the image I want given the limitations. However that said it’s a phone and it takes photos. You are very helpful creative and giving some great comparisons. The difference between art and fine is lot on a lot of people. That’s ok but like everything else there are always those who talk up themself. I use my phone to video and test the view this is where the phone is a great tool. Composition for a quick view it’s a winner. I use a monitor that’s 52 inches and that works I can honestly say my phone could never give me light room capability depth of field versatility and long exposure. I show my work to loads of people via my phone screen That is where the Samsung will be a great tool . But of ease of use I understand phone user. There is a tool for most things these days. So thank for taking the time .
Can you do the exact same comparison with the xiaomi 14 ultra? They have a pretty nice Sony LYT-900 sensor, some good Leica lenses and a pretty bold claim of good raw photos. I would love to see real world performance in comparison to a proper camera.
Surprised the Samsung held up so good. Would be interesting to see a comparison with the Xperia 1 mk V or even better the mk VI when it comes out, since it is rumoured to have 3 48MP sensors. Also a lot less computational stuff going on there.
Great side by side, like for like as near as practicably possible. As a phone camera, not bad, but the sensor size disadvantage shows its limitations in both Dynamic range and noise. Smaller pixels just can't gather the same amount of light, colour information as well as absolute resolution is all lost, as well as the inability to adjust the aperture for creative effect. I know there are algorithms for foreground and background blur simulation, but for photography purists and professionals for whom creative flexibility is an uncompromising imperative, full frame is the clear winner.
I'd like to see the same comparison between the S24 and APSC mirrorless cameras.
Really nice review! Just a remark: most of us will get a Galaxy SXX Ultra or iPhone XX Pro (Max) anyway. Question is: are you willing to pay 3-6K extra to get a full frame camera that outperforms your phone? It's not really about one or the other here. It's more about: just the phone or the phone AND the camera?
If you don't have too much expertise in photography and/or not the best camera for the job, it will be hard to get the best possible pics out of your dedicated camera. So choosing a good camera will cost you in money, but also in learning to handle it and actively searching for nice pictures. Photography is a hobby that takes quite a bit of money and time.
Try using the Pro mode on the Samsung. It shouldn't do any processing to the files and shouldn't look oversharpened like that. It will still be behind the Nikon, but I'm just curious how the Pro RAW files look compared to ExpertRAW.
All phones do to images is process them. They do not have interchangeable lenses, and the lenses they do have do not have a physical aperture. They use software to attempt to compensate for poor dynamic range and color accuracy. Phones only *try* their best through software to emulate what dedicated cameras do naturally, with sub-par results.
@@Desert-edDaveObviously! It has nothing to do with what was said above.
The 1x on the Samsung is quite good for a phone that fits in your pocket. I wonder if there is a way to reverse the over-sharpening.
Really nice apples to apples comparison between a phone and a camera.
Nice work, to be sure -and while I want to believe that the "dedicated camera" yields better results than the phone, in this video [and other similar ones], I can't really see the alleged differences.
Can you make another video shows comparison of Nikon Super Telephoto lens vs S24Ultra 100x zoom
I clicked on this video because I'm weighing my options between buying a budget "vlogging" camera or just getting a new high-model phone. I sort of expected to see a comparison between the phone and a similarly-priced camera, but the camera you were showing is more than double the price of the phone (at least where I live). It makes the phone look pretty impressive! It definitely doesn't reach the photo quality of the Nikon, but it gets surprisingly close considering the price difference between the two. It makes me wonder what the quality comparison would be like between the S24 Ultra and the budget vlogging cameras I was looking at...
Though tbf this is maybe not the comparison you're looking for if you're talking about video instead of photo, since there's kinda different requirements and comparisons to be had there (unless you're just using vlogging as a descriptor for the camera and not what you're trying to do I guess lol).