Very relatable. While you got your Jeffsy I got my Capra about the same time. while the Jeffsy would’ve been best suited for my trails here I’m still happy with my Capra. But kudos for getting the Jeffsy, it is a very capable bike.
Hi, nice video, congrats for the purchase, I've got the 2019 jeffsy 27 al comp, rides fast, offers a lot of confidence... I have many bikes, but this machine its crazy, have last year broken my collerbone... But still in love with it. Happy ridings! 🍻
Ordered a 2020 jeffsy base 27.5 in april......have to wait till july 8th cause thats when YT has them avaliable....totally worth the wait. Cant wait to get it and shred!!!!!
@@CharlieWentOutside im just super excited.....cant sleep at night knowing i have a new bike on order. Really cant wait to get my new jeffsy coming from a $300 hardtail.
Yeah, I suppose it depends how you look at the word "beginner". It'd be way too much to spend for someone who, for example, didn't really know if they liked riding a bike or not. I think it's a good "beginner" bike in the sense that a beginner with no experience mountain biking can get on it and feel pretty immediately comfortable. (That may be true of a lot of other bikes too though, obviously I haven't ridden anything else remotely recent to compare it to.)
Charlie Went Outside I think a beginner bike for someone getting into mountain biking is something the Trek Marlin, a nice entry level hard tail that is also capable. The Jeffsy is for someone who is pretty advanced in mountain biking and is getting maybe their second or third full suspension. But, that’s just my opinion.
@@calumpierce2997 Hahah, actually my first mountain bike was a Marlin (although it was still Gary Fischer back then), that was a the hardtail I had as a teenager. That was a nice bike (and I assume the current Trek version is too). As far as the brakes, they did require a little bedding in, but that took like 10 minutes and since then they've been great. Haven't had any issues with them at all.
Thank you for your candid review. I, like you, have researched the #%$@* out of entry level FS MTN bikes and trying to deal with pink bike and bike exchange as a newbie was daunting for me. I too used to ride a long time ago. I had a specialized hardrock in the 90's. But boy, have the times changed! Because of Covid-19, like the rest of the planet my GF and I decided to get bikes. She went with a Canondale hybrid and I ended up with a Giant Talon 2. It's okay. But after riding it now for a couple months, I realized that I didn't know what I was doing when I bought it! I have been going with friends whom both have FS bikes. Actually, it seems like 95% of the ppl I see out have FS too. Long story short, my Giant already cannot handle the stuff I'm putting it through. So, I just ordered the Jeffsy base XL, I'm 6'2" direct from the website and it looks like I'm going to have to wait until September to get mine. But seems worth the wait! Thanks again for the honest review!
Nice, I don't think you'll be disappointed, and for 6'2" I think the XL is definitely the correct size. It's a bummer they're taking so long to ship now, but you never know - I hope they can ramp up production and get it to you sooner. Even in September though, that should leave plenty of time for fun before winter!
@@CharlieWentOutside Yeah especially since the winters here in CT have been very mild the last couple of years. Anyway, still have the Talon hardtail for now. Although, I'm down for the count for a week or maybe two. I went over the handlebars on a super steep narrow rocky descent 5 days ago and I'm scraped and bruised nicely lol. I got launched, did a couple of flips saw the bike above me after the first roll, finally came to a stop, head downhill feet up haahaahaaa! My buddy made it down before me and was waiting at the bottom watching and said it was the scariest most epic crash he's seen in a while . God I wish we were videoing!!! Oh well! Soooooo, if I had a steeper slack like his Santa Cruz....or the YT im waiting on, I might have made it! Thanks for the reply btw....
@@williamdistasio9358 Yikes, that sounds like a crazy crash -- glad you made it out with just scrapes and bruises though! I've been pretty impressed by what I can just plow right over with the Jeffsy -- my only OTB experience with it thusfar was due to my own stupidity (as you have probably seen in that video lol)
Finally put my order in! Shipping Oct.... but everything is sold out right now. Did you get the tubeless kit? Wondering if it comes set up or if you have to do it yourself. I'm a total beginner so I may not know what I'm talking about..
It comes tubless-ready, which means the rims are taped and it comes with valve stems, but there are tubes in the tires as shipped. Personally, I haven't converted to tubeless yet. I may at some point, but I haven't had issues with the tubes to make me think it's worth bothering with so far.
@@christianjohnson8171 if you ride aggressive you'll find yourself wanting tubeless lol. Tire pinches are probably the most common reason for a flat. Happened to me a few months ago. The next day I was tubeless ! I then took a NASTY fall down a steep decline, and when I picked up my bike, the front tires sidewall had goo all over it..... Had I had a tube in it I mightve been stuck again.
Latest video is here: th-cam.com/video/ciOlwR1ufjM/w-d-xo.html And I'll be doing another one this weekend, hopefully. My local trails are really eroded and rooty and you can get a sense of how the Jeffsy eats them up
I haven't touched the flip chip, and have zero problems climbing, as mentioned in the video. Flip chip is a cool thing to have, but tbh I'm not sure I'll ever touch it. I've found climbing to be just fine in the position it comes in (the more aggressive, "downhill" geometry setting) so I don't see myself adjusting it anytime soon.
Hmm, probably could get away with either medium or large. What kind of trails do you expect to be riding? Either would be a fine choice, the largest slightly longer and so will be slightly more stable downhill, but of course also slightly heavier. The difference is pretty small, I'd probably get the large if it were me but I think either one would work just fine
Apologies if you've covered it; but what height are you and what frame size did you go for? Im finding this aspect the most confusing thing about potentially ordering online, at 5'10 i fall right on the changeover point between two model sizes for a lot of bike brands...
I'm 6' and ordered a L. I actually fall right on the line between L and XL, but I messaged YT on Facebook to ask which they'd recommend, and they said for a beginner it might be better to go with the smaller size, so I got an L. Fits great IMO, so I'm very happy that's what they recommended.
Same... I'm pretty sure 5'10 is the average male height in the US. I'll never understand why bike companies would put the cusp right on that height. Have you decided on a size?
@@doridori13 if it was me you were asking, then no.... Still not decided on a size, nor even decided on a brand! So my 18 year old GT I drive continues to live to ride another day.
@@teddwong5196 I only had to wait a couple weeks, but I ordered in March. Because people have been stuck at home due to covid, most bike companies have gotten a TON of orders, and as a result I think shipping times are much longer now as I think YT have sold almost all of what they had in stock.
Thanks! Yeah, I have a lot of experience making videos. TH-cam is kind of an interesting and different challenge though, trying to make something new and good each week in my free time. Most of my previous experience is making much shorter videos over much longer timeframes, and usually in a more controlled environment and with more equipment than I want to have out on a trail, so this is a fun new challenge!
If it feels great to ride then it isn't a beginner bike. Nothing about it says it is. Gears shift. Brakes stop. Wheels turn and the suspension... suspends. If something goes, replace it. The frame will last a long time, man. Don't let that bike snob on his $9000 S-Works tell you it won't. It'll last you years.
I guess it depends what you mean by "overbiked." Could you get by with a lower-travel bike for trail riding? Of course. But honestly, I've never felt "overbiked" riding any trail, and it's awesome to have a bike that's fun on everyday trails but can also handle some downhill gnar and the occasional bike-park trip. That's why I think it's perfect for beginners - you can use it and have fun everywhere, from XC trails to the bike park. It's not the perfect bike for every trail if you want to get KOM on Strava, and obviously you'd want something more DH focused if you plan to really send it at the bike park...but beginners aren't doing either of those things anyway. IMO it's like a Swiss Army Knife bike. Not *perfect* for every application, but capable of handling basically anything you throw at it.
Charlie Went Outside generally overbiked means the capability of the bike exceeds that of the rider. Beginners would be better of looking at a modern hard tail like a nuke proof Scout or something like a giant stance, save some coin, learn some skills and techniques and upgrade as they progress as bike geometry, reach, offset and overall capability advances every couple of years. Parts, capability of the bike and sometimes value advance every few years. I really don’t think there is such thing as a Swiss Army knife of bikes, it’s like hunting unicorns, the closest I have seen is something like an Ibis Ripmo.
@@shaun1900 That definition would describe literally every bike for beginners. A Nukeproof Scout is still capable of WAY more than any beginning rider can do with it. Isn't there a GMBN video of Blake shredding Whistler Bike Park on one of those? My understanding is that it refers to travel and geometry in comparison to the trails you ride. I.E. riding mild XC trails with a 180mm travel is "overbiked", riding Whistler with a 120mm hardtail is "underbiked." If you define it by riding ability, then pretty much anyone who's not a very skilled, experienced rider is going to be "overbiked". Even a cheap hardtail is capable of a ton with a skilled enough rider. Funny you mention the Ripmo, though. I haven't ridden one, but on paper it's pretty similar to the Jeffsy - 10mm more travel front and rear, HT and ST angles within 1 degree of each other. Obviously the Ripmo has nicer parts though, even on the low-end AF build (but it's also like $1,700 more). I'd actually really like to try one to see how it compares in the real world.
Charlie Went Outside my point is both bikes I mentioned are 1,000.00 cheaper than the Jeffsy and would make more economic sense as a gateway into the sport for a beginner. Over biked isn’t just about travel versus trails, it’s about the rider being able to exploit the capability of the bike, this is more about the skill level of the rider. I see it all the time, people in knee pads, full face helmets and enough stuff in their packs to last a marathon ride, riding exotic machines on mellow xc and fire trails - pretty much like in this video. It’s clear you are a Noob, I apologise for being so critical, good luck with the channel.
@@shaun1900 What makes "economic sense" is a pretty personal thing though, isn't it? Personally, I don't see much point to buying something I'm *planning* to grow out of, or buying something that I don't want. I may be wrong with mountain biking - time will tell - but in life in general, this approach has saved me money in the long run. If that makes me look uncool to more experienced riders, or makes me look like a noob, that's fine. I can see why some people might care about that, but I don't. I AM a noob, and the point of this channel (or my riding in general) is not to look cool. I mean, I'm a mid-30s Dad and generic white dude, I think the "me looking cool" ship has long since set sail, lol. I'm just out here trying to have fun, get better, and in the case of this video, share my honest opinion about this bike, and I'm going to ride, wear, and bring the stuff that makes me feel comfortable and happy. You certainly don't have to agree though! And no need to apologize for being critical lol - this is the TH-cam comments section. I'm pretty happy with any comment that's readable and not abusive :)
Love your Jeffsy videos so far. Literally, bought that same bike last night! Will be great to ride in Sedona compared to my hardtail.
Nice! You're gonna love it.
This bike provides incredible value at its price point! This will definitely be my first FS bike. Great video!
Thanks! I think it's the perfect first FS bike :)
Very relatable. While you got your Jeffsy I got my Capra about the same time. while the Jeffsy would’ve been best suited for my trails here I’m still happy with my Capra. But kudos for getting the Jeffsy, it is a very capable bike.
I was on the fence about this one but after watching your video, I’m gonna buy it right now. It will be my first FS bike too.
Awesome! I don't think you'll regret it :)
Did you get your bike? How do you like it?!
ShiftMTB It was out of stock. Ordered it for August 23rd. Cannot wait! How are you getting on with yours, mate?
@@MrBungle900 absolutely in love. Never ridden a better bike!
ShiftMTB I am so happy for you, my brother.
Hi, nice video, congrats for the purchase, I've got the 2019 jeffsy 27 al comp, rides fast, offers a lot of confidence... I have many bikes, but this machine its crazy, have last year broken my collerbone... But still in love with it. Happy ridings! 🍻
Yikes, sorry to hear about the collarbone, but psyched you're still loving the bike!
Fantastic review from a beginners perspective, your video also pushed me over the fence on this one, thanks!
Thanks, and congrats! I just checked my app after a ride yesterday and I'm now over 260 miles on it, still loving it.
Ordered a 2020 jeffsy base 27.5 in april......have to wait till july 8th cause thats when YT has them avaliable....totally worth the wait. Cant wait to get it and shred!!!!!
Yeah, the waiting is hard to do, but it'll be worth it when you get it!
@@CharlieWentOutside im just super excited.....cant sleep at night knowing i have a new bike on order. Really cant wait to get my new jeffsy coming from a $300 hardtail.
@@scottpink2013 hahah yeah that's going to feel like a night and day difference!
@@CharlieWentOutside cant wait cause the way im riding now im destroying this hardtail. The jeffsy wont hold me back at all!!!
@@scottpink2013 Just be careful the hardtail doesn't destroy YOU before the jeffsy arrives 😂
Thanks for the video. This should be very helpful when my Jeffsy arrives.
Nice, and congrats on the new bike! Excited for you :)
I’d say that that’s far from a beginner bike. Maybe like 5 notches up. Love the channel though. I see you going viral!
Yeah, I suppose it depends how you look at the word "beginner". It'd be way too much to spend for someone who, for example, didn't really know if they liked riding a bike or not. I think it's a good "beginner" bike in the sense that a beginner with no experience mountain biking can get on it and feel pretty immediately comfortable. (That may be true of a lot of other bikes too though, obviously I haven't ridden anything else remotely recent to compare it to.)
Charlie Went Outside I think a beginner bike for someone getting into mountain biking is something the Trek Marlin, a nice entry level hard tail that is also capable. The Jeffsy is for someone who is pretty advanced in mountain biking and is getting maybe their second or third full suspension. But, that’s just my opinion.
Charlie Went Outside oh, and how do you like the brakes? Did you have to bed them in?
@@calumpierce2997 Hahah, actually my first mountain bike was a Marlin (although it was still Gary Fischer back then), that was a the hardtail I had as a teenager. That was a nice bike (and I assume the current Trek version is too).
As far as the brakes, they did require a little bedding in, but that took like 10 minutes and since then they've been great. Haven't had any issues with them at all.
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Thank you for your candid review. I, like you, have researched the #%$@* out of entry level FS MTN bikes and trying to deal with pink bike and bike exchange as a newbie was daunting for me.
I too used to ride a long time ago. I had a specialized hardrock in the 90's. But boy, have the times changed!
Because of Covid-19, like the rest of the planet my GF and I decided to get bikes. She went with a Canondale hybrid and I ended up with a Giant Talon 2.
It's okay. But after riding it now for a couple months, I realized that I didn't know what I was doing when I bought it!
I have been going with friends whom both have FS bikes. Actually, it seems like 95% of the ppl I see out have FS too.
Long story short, my Giant already cannot handle the stuff I'm putting it through. So, I just ordered the Jeffsy base XL, I'm 6'2" direct from the website and it looks like I'm going to have to wait until September to get mine. But seems worth the wait! Thanks again for the honest review!
Nice, I don't think you'll be disappointed, and for 6'2" I think the XL is definitely the correct size. It's a bummer they're taking so long to ship now, but you never know - I hope they can ramp up production and get it to you sooner. Even in September though, that should leave plenty of time for fun before winter!
@@CharlieWentOutside
Yeah especially since the winters here in CT have been very mild the last couple of years.
Anyway, still have the Talon hardtail for now.
Although, I'm down for the count for a week or maybe two. I went over the handlebars on a super steep narrow rocky descent 5 days ago and I'm scraped and bruised nicely lol.
I got launched, did a couple of flips saw the bike above me after the first roll, finally came to a stop, head downhill feet up haahaahaaa! My buddy made it down before me and was waiting at the bottom watching and said it was the scariest most epic crash he's seen in a while .
God I wish we were videoing!!!
Oh well!
Soooooo, if I had a steeper slack like his Santa Cruz....or the YT im waiting on, I might have made it!
Thanks for the reply btw....
@@williamdistasio9358 Yikes, that sounds like a crazy crash -- glad you made it out with just scrapes and bruises though! I've been pretty impressed by what I can just plow right over with the Jeffsy -- my only OTB experience with it thusfar was due to my own stupidity (as you have probably seen in that video lol)
@@CharlieWentOutside yes I saw and heard you explain.😁😁
Finally put my order in! Shipping Oct.... but everything is sold out right now. Did you get the tubeless kit? Wondering if it comes set up or if you have to do it yourself. I'm a total beginner so I may not know what I'm talking about..
It comes tubless-ready, which means the rims are taped and it comes with valve stems, but there are tubes in the tires as shipped. Personally, I haven't converted to tubeless yet. I may at some point, but I haven't had issues with the tubes to make me think it's worth bothering with so far.
Charlie Went Outside thanks! Maybe I won’t bother either until I feel I need it.
@@christianjohnson8171 if you ride aggressive you'll find yourself wanting tubeless lol.
Tire pinches are probably the most common reason for a flat.
Happened to me a few months ago. The next day I was tubeless !
I then took a NASTY fall down a steep decline, and when I picked up my bike, the front tires sidewall had goo all over it.....
Had I had a tube in it I mightve been stuck again.
Really like your videos keep it up!
Thanks, I will! Working on the next one right now...
Just a heads up but, you left the plastic piece covering your dropper lever.
Waiting for a new video, really interested in this bike :)
Latest video is here: th-cam.com/video/ciOlwR1ufjM/w-d-xo.html And I'll be doing another one this weekend, hopefully. My local trails are really eroded and rooty and you can get a sense of how the Jeffsy eats them up
What do you think about climbing if you dont touch of flip chip ?!
Thanks for reading
I haven't touched the flip chip, and have zero problems climbing, as mentioned in the video. Flip chip is a cool thing to have, but tbh I'm not sure I'll ever touch it. I've found climbing to be just fine in the position it comes in (the more aggressive, "downhill" geometry setting) so I don't see myself adjusting it anytime soon.
@@CharlieWentOutside okay Thanks for your answer and good ride !!
accordingly to your experience what size jeffsy would you recommend to another 176cm "tall" beginner? any help would be great, thanks!!
Hmm, probably could get away with either medium or large. What kind of trails do you expect to be riding? Either would be a fine choice, the largest slightly longer and so will be slightly more stable downhill, but of course also slightly heavier. The difference is pretty small, I'd probably get the large if it were me but I think either one would work just fine
Apologies if you've covered it; but what height are you and what frame size did you go for?
Im finding this aspect the most confusing thing about potentially ordering online, at 5'10 i fall right on the changeover point between two model sizes for a lot of bike brands...
I'm 6' and ordered a L. I actually fall right on the line between L and XL, but I messaged YT on Facebook to ask which they'd recommend, and they said for a beginner it might be better to go with the smaller size, so I got an L. Fits great IMO, so I'm very happy that's what they recommended.
Same... I'm pretty sure 5'10 is the average male height in the US. I'll never understand why bike companies would put the cusp right on that height. Have you decided on a size?
@@doridori13 Yeah I went with L - no regrets!
@@doridori13 if it was me you were asking, then no....
Still not decided on a size, nor even decided on a brand! So my 18 year old GT I drive continues to live to ride another day.
That had the sx cranks with cartridge bb?
Sx cranks, sram dub pressfit bb
I have my JeffsyBase 29er coming up in about a week
Nice, you'll love it! Which color?
Charlie Went Outside bkack magic
@@hectornavarrete766 Nice!
How long are you waiting on delivery after ordering? Website says Sept or Oct for most sizes.
@@teddwong5196 I only had to wait a couple weeks, but I ordered in March. Because people have been stuck at home due to covid, most bike companies have gotten a TON of orders, and as a result I think shipping times are much longer now as I think YT have sold almost all of what they had in stock.
First video is awesome. Do you have video making experience?
Thanks! Yeah, I have a lot of experience making videos. TH-cam is kind of an interesting and different challenge though, trying to make something new and good each week in my free time. Most of my previous experience is making much shorter videos over much longer timeframes, and usually in a more controlled environment and with more equipment than I want to have out on a trail, so this is a fun new challenge!
@@CharlieWentOutside if you ever make it to Durango, Colorado, let us know!
@@ShiftMTB I certainly hope to someday!
This is literally my dream bike, i am saving up but it might take 2 years 😢
I’m 14 and I saved up for 5 months and I finally bought it
@@cartermacrenaris705 5 ??
@@zigeunerschnitzel7473 yeah I was lucky enough to find a job
@@cartermacrenaris705 that's great, i think i will do a Holiday Job in a Supermarket.
This or the Capra I only go bike parks not that often
Definetly this if you're mostly trail riding. The capra is a more park focused bike
The Jeffsy would be the better choice if you're mostly riding trails
Holy shit your local trails are soooo rooty!
Hahah yes they are! This is a black trail to be fair, but honestly they're pretty much all like that.
If it feels great to ride then it isn't a beginner bike. Nothing about it says it is. Gears shift. Brakes stop. Wheels turn and the suspension... suspends. If something goes, replace it. The frame will last a long time, man. Don't let that bike snob on his $9000 S-Works tell you it won't. It'll last you years.
Almost too much bike for Trail riding, overbiked for a beginner's rig that's for sure. But hey enjoy all the same.
I guess it depends what you mean by "overbiked." Could you get by with a lower-travel bike for trail riding? Of course. But honestly, I've never felt "overbiked" riding any trail, and it's awesome to have a bike that's fun on everyday trails but can also handle some downhill gnar and the occasional bike-park trip.
That's why I think it's perfect for beginners - you can use it and have fun everywhere, from XC trails to the bike park. It's not the perfect bike for every trail if you want to get KOM on Strava, and obviously you'd want something more DH focused if you plan to really send it at the bike park...but beginners aren't doing either of those things anyway.
IMO it's like a Swiss Army Knife bike. Not *perfect* for every application, but capable of handling basically anything you throw at it.
Charlie Went Outside generally overbiked means the capability of the bike exceeds that of the rider. Beginners would be better of looking at a modern hard tail like a nuke proof Scout or something like a giant stance, save some coin, learn some skills and techniques and upgrade as they progress as bike geometry, reach, offset and overall capability advances every couple of years. Parts, capability of the bike and sometimes value advance every few years.
I really don’t think there is such thing as a Swiss Army knife of bikes, it’s like hunting unicorns, the closest I have seen is something like an Ibis Ripmo.
@@shaun1900 That definition would describe literally every bike for beginners. A Nukeproof Scout is still capable of WAY more than any beginning rider can do with it. Isn't there a GMBN video of Blake shredding Whistler Bike Park on one of those?
My understanding is that it refers to travel and geometry in comparison to the trails you ride. I.E. riding mild XC trails with a 180mm travel is "overbiked", riding Whistler with a 120mm hardtail is "underbiked." If you define it by riding ability, then pretty much anyone who's not a very skilled, experienced rider is going to be "overbiked". Even a cheap hardtail is capable of a ton with a skilled enough rider.
Funny you mention the Ripmo, though. I haven't ridden one, but on paper it's pretty similar to the Jeffsy - 10mm more travel front and rear, HT and ST angles within 1 degree of each other. Obviously the Ripmo has nicer parts though, even on the low-end AF build (but it's also like $1,700 more). I'd actually really like to try one to see how it compares in the real world.
Charlie Went Outside my point is both bikes I mentioned are 1,000.00 cheaper than the Jeffsy and would make more economic sense as a gateway into the sport for a beginner.
Over biked isn’t just about travel versus trails, it’s about the rider being able to exploit the capability of the bike, this is more about the skill level of the rider.
I see it all the time, people in knee pads, full face helmets and enough stuff in their packs to last a marathon ride, riding exotic machines on mellow xc and fire trails - pretty much like in this video.
It’s clear you are a Noob, I apologise for being so critical, good luck with the channel.
@@shaun1900 What makes "economic sense" is a pretty personal thing though, isn't it? Personally, I don't see much point to buying something I'm *planning* to grow out of, or buying something that I don't want. I may be wrong with mountain biking - time will tell - but in life in general, this approach has saved me money in the long run.
If that makes me look uncool to more experienced riders, or makes me look like a noob, that's fine. I can see why some people might care about that, but I don't. I AM a noob, and the point of this channel (or my riding in general) is not to look cool. I mean, I'm a mid-30s Dad and generic white dude, I think the "me looking cool" ship has long since set sail, lol.
I'm just out here trying to have fun, get better, and in the case of this video, share my honest opinion about this bike, and I'm going to ride, wear, and bring the stuff that makes me feel comfortable and happy.
You certainly don't have to agree though! And no need to apologize for being critical lol - this is the TH-cam comments section. I'm pretty happy with any comment that's readable and not abusive :)