You should go back to school dude you are giving them wrong information yes they are different trees but they do counterbalance each other that other tree that you're leaving has no roots coming this way because of that other tree you are lying and you are deceiving this man big time I hope you before someone gets hurt
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...actually Bobby James...with the tree in that condition, it definitely is a hazardous situation. Because the tree has grown on the gents property, and is easily identifiable as such...HE IS responsible for the costs of removing such hazard...he should be grateful that the woman undertook the cost of the removal. Had she notified the City and had inspectors come out, he would have been required under City code to have it removed and the cost would have been all his......
And you. Think. The roots. Do… what? Counterbalance the other tree? Please show your work. My structural and statics engineering courses didn’t cover this fantastic discovery of yours. Please explain how removing the top of an adjacent tree causes a root systems magic ability to cantilever a separate tree to suddenly disappear. It’s more likely the two tree were undermining each other’s balanced growth and removing one made things better, not worse. Not much better though. So when the other falls you magicians will still claims it’s because of removing the other tree. Sheer ignorance.
Look up anything about tree roots and be amazed by just how incredibly huge they are. There will be dozens of massive root systems down there all anchored to mother earth
I had a nasty neighbor who thought he was a lawyer. He and his Karen wife gave me a hard time about everything. Right down to "You cant change your oil on your truck in your driveway". I ended up getting a restraining and no trespass order on them. But the verbal abuse continued from the property line. So I put up a stockade fence. (That's a great story in itself) After a few years I ended up getting a job offer and moved to the country surrounded by a wildlife reservation. My old house was sold to a wonderful young family. The woman was a very sharp young lawyer, and her husband was a police officer. After two attempts at causing trouble for the new family, (and the two law suites against the old neighbors........the old neighbors lost both) my old neighbors, moved away! WIN, WIN!!
@@ercokattyIf you get called Karen a lot, there is a reason. You must be "that neighbor". Stop being a Karen, and the world will quit calling you one. There should be a rehab for people like you.
As a homeowner, if that was my tree and on my property line, I would immediately have it removed for the safety of my neighbor and their property. I would be ashamed and embarrassed otherwise. Shame on him and his snotty wife!
I can truly relate Norbert. One of our core values is Extreme ownership and it would compel me to do as you have said. instagram.com/tv/CXGmjZ7JD4v/?. Thanks for your comment!
I agree - I would do the same. That said, how does an ethical, moral and good values based neighbor pay Mr.Game of Trees in those tight situations? This is not cheap work and I would loose sleep knowing 5,000lbs of tree will fall on my neighbors garage before figuring out my financial solution. I'm a newbie homeowner.
@@johncollins7044 Here is AZ, if the neighbors tree is hanging over my fence, I can trim to the fence. I have done it to my neighbors oak on one side and my other neighbor has done it to my tree that is hanging over his pool. I have no issues with it either way.
@@nmopzzz i live in tucson and i researched about trimming trees coming across property lines, and what he says in the video about if you trim and kill the tree than its on you is true here. dont believe everything you hear.
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What he really meant is "I'm too cheap to pay you to take down the other side so if it unbalances and falls I want you to pay for all the damages so lets get it on the record."
@@jeff-ji3kh Jimmy Carter was the all-time grand master of this tactic. Whenever he said "That's a very good question" or "I'm glad you asked that question," he then totally changed the subject.
My neighbors on either side of me had a few big trees leaning over my property that were becoming a hazard. When their arborists showed up you know what I did? I introduced myself, unlocked all my gates, offered them access to my property from both sides, and told them thank you and be safe. No idea how people can be so un-neighborly.
It's called NIMBY-ism and it's always been there. Looking up videos of parents holding up signs when the N word when school busing was a thing. School bussing was immediately killed in the courts because rich white parents don't want their children brushing shoulders with poor minority kids.
these days people are just assholes, even when walking along side of someone in a store for a few seconds, people just tend to make it awkward when it's really nothing. No one is intentially trying to invade your space, it's just a shared moment in time so there's no need for the long face. I mean we all share these side by side moments all the time everyday. For example we all do it all the time in our vehicles when we are on the freeway. There could be a racist driving along side a thief who is driving along side a sextet who is driving along side an off duty cop who is driving along side a mother driving her children driving along side a man going to work, We all share that same shared space everyday without letting our personal views get in the way of the flow, but as soon as people get out of there vehicles and do the same thing when walking, there's always going to be some asshole who just has to be an asshole. Like I said, in these days People are just assholes, and they are assholes for no real reason but just to be an asshole.
It amazes me how people can live just feet away from each other but yet be so indifferent towards each other. It's like, You have to look at each other every day so, how does that work?
I paid to have a tree removed on my property that had NO BEARING or safety issue to MY property but was a major risk to my neighbor. He is a retired marine and his wife died 3 years ago so he is alone and on a fixed income. If anything happened to his property from damage it could ruin him. I paid to remove the tree and wow it’s expensive but worth it. He came over like a couple days later and thanked me profusely. I’ve been that man’s neighbor for 37 years now. Since I was a kid. When my parents retired I bought the house. Let me tell you being on good terms with your neighbors is ESSENTIAL to having a happy life. Don’t be like those assholes because one day you’ll need to count on your neighbor for something and trust me they will remember your actions. That same marine saved my ass when I was 17 and drunk at a party and didn’t know who to call to get home. I called him at 3 am and he picked up and didn’t judge me and got me home safe and sound. Never once told my parents either but he told me as a man I should tell them. He was a role model to me and I’m damn proud to have him as my neighbor. Idk why I felt so inclined to write this but here it is lol
@A weeb god with a tra.... I'm an old woman but this made me cry. I don't know why but it sure struck a chord in my heart. Maybe I see in you what I had in mind for my son to be , but who never made it past 25yrs old before he took his life. Whatever the reason, THANKYOU Sir for sharing and God bless that marine neighbour. 🇦🇺🤗💞🙏✌️👍👏🇺🇲
If the tree would of fallen and it was your responsibility you would be liable. They would most likely sue you and home owners insurance would kick in that instance. Bet you any money if his boat was in that danger he would fix it an instant. I hope karma doesn’t bite him in the end.
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Have the exact same situation, he planted on property line -breaking french drain, blocking storm water drainage, tree is growing in my property..the neighbor is a total jerk
Instead of realizing that the tree over the property line is a definite risk to his neighbor's home and working with them to take care of it they would rather be obstinate asses about it. How many times do you see news stories of falling limbs from storms not only damaging homes but cause injuries even deaths and this Kevin and Karen pair of armchair lawyers want to be jerks. Unreal. It's so easy to be easy going.
"I wanna make you aware... that I don't know what I'm talking about and I'm working off of hearsay and not taking responsibility for the tree on my property." Pretty much what he said. Lol.
The boat home owner is legally responsible for the removal of that hazardous tree. If the tree had broken in the storm and fell without warning or prior knowledge then that is a different situation. I've been an arborist for 40 plus years, and have been to court on several occasions with people like the boat guy. The court will not rule in boat guys favor because as a property owner, he is responsible for the safety and upkeep of his land, and anything that extends over the property line. Boat guy is a negligent dope and a lousy neighbor.
This is what I honestly can't comprehend - how can one's neighbor's tree that unexpectedly falls on your property (for example in a storm) end up being your own liability? I mean, said tree wasn't ever your property to begin with. Am I just dense, or too tired, I just don't understand. This from someone who just paid them big bucks to have eight dying pine trees along a property line taken down out of caution. Thanks for any insight here!
Some sharp lawyer could donate his services to the non-profit and sue the neighbor on her behalf for the full cost plus legal fees instead of half the cost of the removal as could have been negotiated with reasonable people. I'd love to see that happen.
The boat owner is probably so up to his eyeballs in debt the even though he knows the tree is his liability he can't afford to pay to have it taken down.
“I took down another tree.” So what? And he deliberately parks his boat right under the tree that he thinks is going to fall down. Not only that, the guy is such a clown that another tree service left and didn’t want to deal with him. Incredible.
More likely, he would rather deal with the hassle of a claim and everything instead of mildly alter his behavior, like someone who thinks he is less of a man for moving out of someone else’s way on a sidewalk.
In all my 63 years I have never seen people take issues to such extremes like they do these days. Karen and his wife just HAD to come out and throw a tantrum.
Try where I'm living and I'm in an HOA. Many residents here are all about themselves, making their own rules and bickering and badgering on line. Sadly this has happened in many instances.
The problem is a generation of entitled people who want something for nothing and refuse to take responsibility for their property. It's unbelievable and so unnecessary. I mean, they could split the cost of having the entire hazard removed and save the drama for something much more important.
Karen and his wife (that's hilarious btw!!) are just typical of a so called civilized American society. No common sense or a hint of trying to be community. Just horrible. I get more sick of being an American everyday.
I love how he has all that driveway but chooses to park his boat right under the tree that he knows is a problem(from 2 other arborists)and tries to lay responsibility on someone else. Might as well admit he's struggling with his boat payment.
@@kimdracula_og - Oh, but he ain't gonna take the responsibility!!! No, he's going to dump that on that poor arborist he accosted on the driveway. It's as clear as bottled water that the ENTIRE tree was on his property but he was making the neighbors pay for removal of the half that was threatening their garage. People can be so ignorant.
I can't believe the dude with the boat can't take ownership of a tree planted on his property. It floors me the level of slimeball trying to get out of paying money to do the right thing.
@@John-g8n2q Has nothing to do with having it, just a comment on how he probably got it. If he was a working man he would be more respectful to others, he's a jerk, jack leg contractor type, I live in God's country, thanks for asking.
@@GameofTrees Here's how I would've spoken to him, in a very calm, moderate voice: 1. "As a professional Arborist, who has testified as an expert witness in court cases involving tree damage, I can tell you that cutting off this one main trunk is not going to impact the other main trunk structurally at all. So my work here is not going to negatively impact you at all." 2. "Because the trunk that goes into your neighbor's property is crossing his property line, and poses a potential hazard to his property, he has every right to cut off that trunk at his property line." (The fact that the property line goes up into the sky actually works in your client's favor here, not the neighbor's favor.) 3. "Because the tree poses a potential hazard to my client's home, *you* might face liability if we don't cut this tree back, and some might argue it's your responsibility to to do, since it's ultimately your tree, even if he has the right to trim anything crossing his property line. 4. "We're not going to sign anything assuming any liability here, because that wouldn't be appropriate. If you have any issues with your tree later, and want to try to sue me or my client over that, that would certainly be your right. However, I don't believe you'd have any legal basis to prevail on, and you'd therefore just be wasting your money." 5. "I think it would be best for everyone if we cut off the trunk at this specific point, but if you only want me to cut off the portion crossing over my client's property line, that's also fine. I'll then only be working on his side of the property line." 6. "If you want me to cut down your portion of the tree as well, and are willing to pay me for it, I'm also happy to do that. It's just not my or my client's responsibility to do so unless you cover the cost."
The absolute audacity of that neighbor. You’d think he’d be grateful that his neighbor was paying to have a portion of HIS tree removed because it was a liability to HIM. If I were him, I wouldn’t even let my neighbor pay for it, I would. THIS is one reason why my nearest neighbor is 3000’ away from me.
Exactly! There was a tree directly on the property line between my house and the neighbor...giant ugly scrub pine. The new owner came over one day and asked if it would be OK with me to remove the tree. I offered to pay for half. No reason to be an butthead.
Nobody likes to pay for things like this - I get it. But it’s cheaper in the long run to just have it done and maintain good relationships with your neighbors. Seems like his neighbors are really nice folks
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@@GameofTrees the ignorance of angry neighbor once he is on notice of the danger is amazing. Like the good neighbor, I would have mitigated the damage and been reimbursed by angry neighbor or his insurance. My lawyer would of been paid also by them.
I used to own a house that has a large pine tree that grew right in the middle of the property line and was leaning toward the neighbor's house. I hired people to remove 7 trees on my property after I bought my house. Trying to be a friendly neighbor and because it was on the property line, I offered to remove the tree at my own expense and he told me that he would sue me if it damages his house. The kicker was his house was abandoned due to total damage from a fire. I left the tree alone and a year later, he demolished his house. In the process, he knocked on my door and asked if I wanted to remove the tree and split the expense. I reminded him what he told me and closed the door. Sometimes, people don't have the gratitude for what was offered to them.
@@geosdev The tree did not affect my property one bit. There are certain people that you just have to avoid. They are too entitled, or just plane looney. Based on your colorful language, I guess you are one of those type of neighbors. If you call me an @$$ for not indulging someone who threatened to sue me when I was trying to be nice, than so be it. LOL
Ha! I also offered to pay 50% to cut 3 trees next to my house my neighbor planted 3 feet right next to our bedroom windows on property line. I think it was river birch trees. We lived in a neighborhood where the houses were close to each other. I offered to pay 50%. The roots began growing under my house and out the back yard. We couldn't even barely mow the yard without tripping on them. Then my house started cracking where the roots were growing in the bedroom. Then a limb fell and damaged my roof, not once but twice. She accepted my offer to pay 50%, finally 3 years later.. I was very patient with her. . I offered to find someone to cut the tree and she was adiment that she would do it and that was fine. A man arrived to give her a quote. It was evident they knew each other. . I was sitting on my back porch and he gave her a reasonable offer. Then she told him how terrible her neighbor was (me) and gave a sob story of her financial situation. She asked him to increase the quote and double it and when she got my 50%,it would be the amt of his original quote so she would not have to pay anything.. He agreed. Therefore I would be paying 100% of the bill . When I heard this, I learned how evil and crooked folks could be. She delivered the quote to me, and i told her when they are cut, call me and I will give 50% of his quote to her. When he was through, I gave him 50% of his original quote and told both of them that I heard their entire conversation. They were both in shock and silent. So she was still stuck with her half. Lesson learned. Many people are thieves and crooks..
He complains about the rest of the tree being a hazard yet parks his boat directly under it. I swear I am so glad to be a country boy living in the country. That way I can stay away from the big cities where life gets complicated. Nothing worse than a difficult, nosey neighbor. If that was any kind of good neighbor, they would split the cost 50/50 and be done with it.
It's obvious he's a crappy kind of guy, you can see the other three failing and probably going to fall on that house is nothing's done and he doesn't give to schitt's about it all he's worried about his his property real piece of work
@@TheHolypoopstick Yes they are. Leach Fields are banned yet 99.9999999% of peasants here think they're saving money by not having an aerobic system that doesn't get them sick.
Shit like this is so sad. I trimmed a tree and my neighbor came out and encouraged me to trim his side(which I didn't yet out of respect from going on his property). I said I would need to get on his roof, he gave me permission so I did. A week later he knocked on my door and insisted on giving me a $100 bill. I tried to refuse, but he's a stubborn old man and wouldn't let me go inside until I took the money. He's a freaking sweet old man. Nice neighbors are a blessing.
I am dyslectic and just awake, my brain switched the words "me" and "giving" (before the: "a $100 bill.") It confused me and it took an embarrassing long time before I got it xD But yes, a neighbor you love to have!
In the question of "how much can a tree cost?", a formerly wooded lot next to our property was sold for development. The home owner at the front corner of our lot asked to cut down a "crappy tree" on our property, just in from the corner. He wanted it down because it was shading his soon-to-be front yard. We said absolutely not - this is a very old, very valuable tree and would not be touched. Just to be sure, we sent this in writing, by certified letter. He hired a tree company, told them it was his tree and had them remove it while we were out of town. It was a 100+ foot tall, five foot diameter BLACK WALNUT. Likely one of the largest remaining in Ohio. If you just eyeballed it, the tree was something like 11,000 board feet. At something like $5 to $10 a board foot. as in "something like $100,000. And they had LET THE TREE COMPANY HAVE THE TRUNK (because they were idiots). So...we got an emergency order to stop the tree company from selling the log, and sued the property owner. The judge was a country guy and went ballistic when he saw photos of the tree and copies of the letter (with signed receipts). He gave us triple damages at $90,000 valuation ($270,000) plus the tree company had to return the log to us, which we sold for $67,000 (it was actually over 12,000 BF, but the tree company had cut it into shorter logs. If it was in 30' sections it would have been over $100K). The property owners went bankrupt and had to move. so...not exactly common, but "the wrong tree" can cost you a lot.
What state do you live in. I'm in Pa. and we have that triple damage in our laws. I had a woman next door to me that had a chain link fence up and I hated it. I planted a row of arbs along it so I wouldn't have to see it. She came out one day with spray paint and said she was going to paint her fence. She sprayed my arbs also. I went to a lawyer friend of mine and he told me any damages would be tripled automatically. It was nice to hear.
that hurts me to read... Trees like that aren't something money can hardly even value; there's no getting a new one there without taking losses ecologically and financially across the board.. or waiting a century...
I guess the neighbour figured that once the tree was gone there might be some arguing but not much more. It clearly never entered their mind that the tree might be worth a lot in timber. Surpirised the tree company didn't cut it to maximise value, but they were getting paid twice anyway. Trees like that, the loggers pay you to remove it.
The tree owner is a perfect example of what society is becoming. No one takes responsibility for their problems, or actions. Stand up and pay the rest of the tab to remove your tree.
@@davidedbrooke9324 agreed there is nothing wrong with that tree. The neighbor douch bags need to mind their own damn business! If it fell it would fall on the owners house so what are they worried about?!
Unfortunately alot of us have been in this situation, I have a medium tree about 4 to 5 metres in height, it's an evergreen tibochina, beautiful purple flowers picked from the council list of non offensive species. But still the neighbour hacks at it. If she left it alone it would grow high enough not to be problem. It's not shading anything, their entire yard is concrete. Some people are just plant intolerant.
The home owner can legally force the neighbor to cut down his tree that is dangerously hanging right over his house. The guy with the boat should be happy the guy next door is happy to pay for removing the dangerous hazard.
I'm surprised that there is not some legality that obliges the owner of the tree to do something about it when it is that hazardous to other people. That is the same as other negligent offenses.
@@kenthomas4668 Depends on the state we went through this a few years ago with a neighboor next door to my mother. Part of the tree had already broken off and damaged her roof. The city arborist had to come and declare the tree a hazzard- the city deemed it need to be removed at the neighbors cost or he would be fined each day it remained standing
@@trader025 yeah it does. In that case though it had already clearly become a hazard and had caused damage. Not convinced this tree is a hazard. Neighbor could certainly cut what is hanging over his property but not force the neighbor to remove the tree
@@noahcarver6072 here in Washington state, if you notify the property owner in writing that a tree is a hazard, from that point on they are responsible for damage that the tree does.
Thanks to majority of the manciple property laws you have a five foot working easement without threat of trespassing . As long as you repair any damage you my cause during your work.
@@RandomsFandom if the tree is his responsibility, why are the neighbors worried so much about it? The neighbors hired a fly by night tree cutter to cut down another man's tree? If your neighbor hires someone to cut down your trees on your property, are you still responsible for liability?
I had a neighbors tree fall on my property. My insurance wanted a deductible. I didn’t want to pay the $500. Brought it to my neighbor. They refused to pay so I brought them to court. I sued for the entire cost of the removal and to repair the fence. Court ordered them to pay because it was their tree. So… in my experience, it’s still your tree even if it falls.
I had a huge Locust tree, and a very large branch came down in a storm crushing my neighbor's fence and damaging my neighbor's roof. The insurance company said it was an "Act of God" and refused to pay my neighbor anything. They never sued me. They rebuilt the fence and the roof themselves.
@@hazelwood55 I had an act of God happen to one of my trees that landed in my neighbor's yard. I did a quick internet search and found out their insurance would cover the damage, not mine.
As a former police officer, I can tell you that the guy was full of it. The police didn't tell him all that hogwash. It's a civil matter and that's more than likely what they told him. I know for sure that cops don't like getting involved in those things because we can be dragged to court on it when we're already in court enough and held to some degree reliable or made out to be the butt if we tell them something inaccurate. We know criminal law not civil unless a civil law directly affects our jobs we're not trained on it.
I would think it is a city/county issue. In our county the inspector would deem it a dangerous tree and the homeowner would be responsible for removing it. If he refuses the county removes it and slaps a lean on the house.
@@cerberusreaper9759 My point was it is not a police matter. Police here would not intervene either. I should have written county code inspector who writes the citation.
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i think the guys concern was genuine. Those trees were connected via the root systen. If one set of roots die, the other will be compromised. As a contractor, I would have walked away from that job, but first try to talk that guy into taking the entire tree down.
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When I first moved into my house, I noticed a 70ft oak in the back that had split in the middle. It had heavy branches still on one side that would have taken out my neighbors backyard garage with his Model A and classic car inside...so I immediately trimmend off that branch. A few years later I noticed a woodpecker in the damaged area 35ft up and rented a 50ft boom to trim all the other branches that were a concern to lighten the load. I used to climb and cut, but at 62 I have money. Money is better. The neighbor helped with all the trimming and really appreciated that we were protecting his property. We're friends with the neighbors and they are worth the $500 it cost for the boom rental.
imagine having a neighbor so nice they are paying to have YOUR tree cut down from their property side as it's clearly a hazard, then coming out and complaining to the professional company they hired AND PAID to do the job....
I gotta believe these types of neighbor to neighbor tree disputes happen all the time. Happened to me 20 years ago when a new neighbor moved in next door and demanded that I cut the branches from my huge oak tree that were overhanging his lot. I had done my homework on the issue and told him to feel free to trim whatever he wanted from the tree as long as it was over his property line but since the tree was not diseased or otherwise a danger, I was not obligated take care of or pay for the removal of branches hanging over his yard. He has someone come out to trim the branches and told the tree service company that I said it was OK to trim the branches all the way back to the trunk - 10 feet on my side of the property line. I of course disavowed them of that notion and they were aware of the local ordinances and laws and had no problem with it. they dropped a rope from the branch onto the marked property line below and then stayed 6" on the other side of that line on all the branches they trimmed. When the neighbor came home and saw what was (and was NOT) done, he had a fit. Eventually he sued me in small claims court in an attempt to get me to pay for the work. Of course he did not prevail and I pasted the court's verdict on my window facing his kitchen window..
@@MisterNineEleven Because in that case, the next step may be to introduce some lead into the blood stream of the neighbor. Please move in next to me so we can test that theory.
@@liwojenkins Go ahead, my house has a water filtration system so... If youre gonna try to poison a person over a tree youre probably as smart as one lol
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When someone says "I'm not trying to be difficult" it's because in their own conscience, they know they are in fact trying to cause difficulties for someone. Lol. People are so damn crazy these days
Hey man, just wanna say you’re one level headed guy, you seem like someone that can keep his emotions in check while dealing with temperamental adult children. You would think as a neighbor you would do the right thing but unfortunately not all ppl are not so nice.
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Agreed. As an over-the-road driver on occasion I had to put up with one. Once in Charlotte, NC, I had to back to dock from the street and some entitled woman thought I was going to stop so she could get by when I was a couple of feet from the sidewalk. I acted as if I didn't see her and kept going. She stopped. She only lost maybe 30 seconds.🤷🏼♂️ I had another one complain and I just stopped the truck, set the brakes, got out and told them they were welcome to do it for me. They turned around and walked off.
This is So Fun! I just got done pruning two big Basswoods and a double stemmed Birr Oak. I've had hundreds of conversations like this. Had a guy call the cops on me. I welcomed him to. After a brief educational moment on arbor culture, I just kept working and in the end, the cops came over to me and said I was doing a good job and to stay safe. Stay safe up there my new friend!
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This brings back painful memories plus conversations just like this one! Trying to make sense of NONsense. We finally moved but some people will just not take in common sense, which makes it less common. That neighbor made a trench on our shared property line while my first grandchild was being born. Meanwhile she had no problem stepping over that line whenever she felt like it! Nightmare Neighbor, Thy name is Carol!
With my property I have no issue with a neighbor cutting any branch that encroaches on his property providing if they do they are responsible for removal of anything they trim off....I get pissed off when they dump that shit back over the fence.
@@janesmith5967 Lol, no. I am a retired air traffic controller. The US military owns all US airspace which it delegates to the FAA for the use of commercial, private, and military aircraft. Depending on the area you live, your property line generally extends between 80 to 500 feet in the air. Anything above that you do not own unless there is some exception made, like for tall buildings, etc.
THat's a common tactic of people who are socipaths or bordeline sociopaths. They just cant help themselves pulling that behavior. I will stop them and say, "You DON'T agree. You've NEVER agreed, so STOP SAYING YOU AGREED!"
He was Probably hoping you would take his side down with the other half at no cost to him. One on every block. As the home owner he 100%should be paying for the entire thing.
Call the town building inspector if the tree is fractured and windstorm damaged and it is in danger of falling onto your home or garage. Once you drag the building inspector into the issue more than likely the owner of the property where the tree sits will likely have to take down the entire tree. Not only could the tree owner be held financially liable if his clearly damaged tree falls down and damages your property, but the tree owners can also held 'Criminally Negligent' and fully responsible if the 'known' hazard that exists on their property causes physical harm to anyone.
I can understand the neighbors concern. Recently our neighbor had a tree removed. The removal company asked if they could park the equipment in our yard to avoid their septic system. We agreed as we have been neighbors for 40 years and they are lovely people. The tree company completely ripped up our lawn, bounced a huge limb off our garage causing roof damage and bounced a large branch off our car causing $2500 in damage.
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They could easily win in small claims court. The tree belongs to the neighbor but grows into their yard, creating a hazard. The neighbor is on video complaining about how the arborist can't cut their tree. Smh
I don't think he would win. He did what he was allowed to do which was cut the tree at the property line. You can't make your neighbor cut down an entire tree just because a branch comes over your property line.
@@rogersmith7808 the broken tree was creating an imminent hazard so removal of the tree was needed to prevent any additional damage or injury. Had the tree actually broken down and landed on the garage then the garage owner would have been liable for the damage to their property and removal of the broken tree. In this case I'd bet the arborist donated his time and labor to the non profit and by doing so the boat owner didn't have to pay for the removal. He actually did the boat owner a big favor by not billing him for the removal.
@@jti2007 Do you know a lot about these things? I have a neighbor with an obviously dying tree , it branches across and over my house. but if I remove the limbs over my property line there is still lots of weight that would make it fall my way, on my house. The neighbor is a jerk like the boat owner and wont let me pay to remove it and says it is fine. My arborist that trimmed everything but that tree because he was throwing a fit even about trimming to his property line. My arborist said it is dying and is a hazard and will fall someday. Is this something I could go to the city with and get the tree condemned? Which would make the tree owner responsible for the removal before damages? or if not removed responsible for the damage it causes? Cause I know if it falls on my house it is my damage ,my insurance and possibly my injury.
Well done Kevin. The neighbor were really trying to press your buttons and bully you, but you held your ground and very politely stated facts, then went about your visit. If the other tree services talked to the neighbor they probably decided the hassle just isn't worth it. I'm saving this video for future reference.
You're right about the hassle. I work for an insurance co. One lady called up & teared me a new one. I told her, "This is really something that needs to be handled by your independent Agent." She said, "They told me they don't write for you anymore!" Yeh, 'cause you probably tore into them too & they decided you're not worth the trouble!
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Once you told me the back story I can see you have a heart, the guy was being a jackass and thats his problem, being in the construction business for many years myself I have had to deal with tons of amateur attorneys. Full of bluster but when the shit hits the fan they are nowhere to be found. I too have had addiction problems over the years and have worked with a sober living facility and thats a noble cause and you earned my respect. Thanks. People like him was the reason I needed a drink.
Great job dealing with him. That looked really stressful dealing with that asshole, but you kept cool. You weren’t aggressive you were just assertive and confident in your work and the legality of the situation going above and beyond by explaining it clearly and simply. If it were me I’d have asked for a deal on the rest of the tree and how it would help us both out to take the whole thing right then and there rather than wasting time arguing.
Kudos for holding your line. I have my trees cared for yearly to avoid exactly this risk. Prevention is cheaper than cure. $800 a year is a bargain compared to a half-ton branch coming through my house or car. All about managing risks and looking at the big picture and not just the 90 days in front of a person
The disgruntled neighbor feels like someone is touching his property and has no right to do so. He doesn't care how the situation affects anyone else. Really bad and narcissistic neighbor. I have several neighbors just like that too.
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They were just trying to get the rest of the tree removed at no cost to themselves. The moral of this is that you have to know what you are planting AND what it will grow into and do not plant trees that will get huge and brittle and fall on your neighbors property during a storm or when it eventually dies. The same goes for planting trees close to or under power lines. How many wide spread power failures are due to trees and their limbs.
@@Joseph70663 Insurance is what you buy in the hope you never need it. Insurance is not what you buy so you can be neglectful, careless, or just plain lazy and then have someone else pay for your neglectfulness, carelessness, or laziness. Insurance is for those things that you can do nothing about but happen anyway or acts of nature that you can not control. Where a tree is planted is in your control. If you did not plant the tree but ended up owning it, then you are responsible for it encroaching onto a neighbor's property and removing it if they declare they want the encroaching tree you own removed from their property. If you refuse to comply with your obligation then they can remove the part of your tree on their property and you can deal with the consequences. In this case, the neighbor was paying for the removal of the tree from their property and the owner, probably for a small amount extra, could have had the rest of the tree removed and everyone would have been happy. But just like a typical bad neighbor, he did not want to pay the cost of being responsible and was desperately trying to get the arborist to remove his part of the tree for free. I will bet dollars to donuts that this person will pout and blame his neighbor and the arborist for any damage that occurs to his property and be resentful and condemning.
I like the way that you handled it. Very professional. A bit of chuckle in your voice told me you don't take bull from jerks seriously, and that's keeping the good energy within to focus on the job at hand.
Had two pine trees on my property, they were hanging on my neighbors roof. They asked and I had them removed, because they were a hazard to their roof. The neighborly thing to do, much less the right thing to do.
"So, I just want you guys to know that if this hazardous tree that I haven´t taken care of and my neighbor is paying to get removed from his side falls on my side and on the boat that I deliberately parked under it, then i´m going to be blaming you guys" -A Karen neighbor´s logic
I think you handled it appropriately. You corrected them, educated them and explained what you are going to do repeatedly. I don't have the patience that you do. Great work. You are buddah.
You explained this tree removal beautifully and did a fantastic job that a lot of experts would not take on the hastle. You are great arborists and a true joy to watch.
Of course he parks his boat under that “hazardous tree” and right where you are working. I love these people acting like a lawyer with the “that’s how it’s gonna be” garbage. They both need to kick rocks. As far as being aggressive, you were way more cordial than I think I could have been. Good on you for standing to Ken and Karen.
Outstanding video and excellent commentary. I learned a few things I thought I knew, but didn't. Thank you sir for your excellent work and also your kindness and professionalism. Much respect to you. God bless you.
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That neighbor was an ass . He should have said take the whole thing and I'll pay you for your time . It wasn't like you weren't already there with your equipment I'm sure you would have done it . You gotta love those type of nosy neighbors who want an argument. Great video !
@@rl4889 he would've done that for sure! I'm positive that the arborist has done that before many times . Neighbors fight over trees daily in towns and cities he's seen this situation often.
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If his tree is causing an immediate hazard he is responsible for removing that hazard period ! If he doesn't and I'm forced to remove the hazard I would sue him for the cost or tell him to shut the blank up ! What the hell is the matter with people these days ! Take some responsibility people !
I have a lot of experience with this, and while regional laws do vary, in most parts of the country you would not be correct. Yes an owner is absolutely responsible for any part of a tree that that presents an obvious hazard to a neighbor if THAT PART of the tree is present on his own side of the property line. ANY part of a tree however that is present anywhere on the other side of the property line is the sole responsibility of the neighbor. You can take it to court, but in most of the country you would absolutely lose.
I used to own a tree service in California and the law stated that you could trim anything that hangs over the property line from a neighbors tree as long as you don't compromise the health of the tree. Also, homeowners insurance pays for damage caused by a tree according to where the branch falls if the tree breaks. In other words, if your neighbors tree falls onto your house, your insurance pays for the damage. It is based upon where the tree lands, not where it came from. Having said this, if a neighbor can be shown to have been negligent in caring for his tree and it fell on your property, you could sue and may prevail. This is really one tree growing from the same roots. The entire tree is junk.
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Worse than Ken and Karen for neighbors is having a slum full of drunken Kens and Karens under a noisy pub. I eventually couldn't take it any more and moved towns to go live with a nature preserve on my one boundary line, reasonable neighbors both sides and no blasted pub or slum within five kilometers.
The root originates on your property, you should be paying to take the tree down before it falls on the neighbor's garage. That's it. Period. The neighbor shouldn't even be paying for that. This guy is the biggest a-hole I've seen in a while. No honor. No sense of responsibility. No neighborliness.
Looking at the state of that tree with the giant crack in it, it is his responsibility to make it safe for his neighbour again. I can't believe he's argueing about it and even lettting his neighbour pay for his own tree...
Or you just do what i did and they did, chop down half their tree, because they have shitty neighbors. Told my neighbor their tree is pushing down are fence. He told me to f off. so i replaced the fence and cut his tree right down the property line. He tried to take me to court and was told he has no leg to stand on. Because i did the smart thing and got the state/county to give me the go a head.
Exactly! I don't care what the law says if it grew from my property, I would pay to have it removed. He know it can fall onto his neighbor's property and cause damage or even death.
Handled it perfectly, obviously has a lot of practice dealing with these difficult people. I have a relative with a crazy psycho neighbour and it's so bad they had to move. I luckily have great neighbors who offered to pay half when we wanted to remove a large tree that was kind of on both our properties.
You are absolutely right about if the tree is standing or falling being an insurance adjuster myself there is a loophole to that if the homeowner gets a certified letter sent to the owner of the tree letting them know of the hazard then it becomes that person's job and responsibility to have that tree taken care of and if something does happen to it after that letter has been sent then it is the tree owners insurance responsibility to take care of anything that happens any damages
"I'm gonna hold them responsible." Has no authority. 😂 Also, he denied he was saying you're responsible 30 seconds before he said he was going to hold you responsible. Bet he gaslights his family too.
You should go back to school dude you are giving them wrong information yes they are different trees but they do counterbalance each other that other tree that you're leaving has no roots coming this way because of that other tree you are lying and you are deceiving this man big time I hope you before someone gets hurt
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...actually Bobby James...with the tree in that condition, it definitely is a hazardous situation. Because the tree has grown on the gents property, and is easily identifiable as such...HE IS responsible for the costs of removing such hazard...he should be grateful that the woman undertook the cost of the removal. Had she notified the City and had inspectors come out, he would have been required under City code to have it removed and the cost would have been all his......
And you. Think. The roots. Do… what? Counterbalance the other tree?
Please show your work. My structural and statics engineering courses didn’t cover this fantastic discovery of yours.
Please explain how removing the top of an adjacent tree causes a root systems magic ability to cantilever a separate tree to suddenly disappear.
It’s more likely the two tree were undermining each other’s balanced growth and removing one made things better, not worse. Not much better though. So when the other falls you magicians will still claims it’s because of removing the other tree.
Sheer ignorance.
you wrong Bobby what are you talking about
Look up anything about tree roots and be amazed by just how incredibly huge they are.
There will be dozens of massive root systems down there all anchored to mother earth
I had a nasty neighbor who thought he was a lawyer. He and his Karen wife gave me a hard time about everything. Right down to "You cant change your oil on your truck in your driveway". I ended up getting a restraining and no trespass order on them. But the verbal abuse continued from the property line. So I put up a stockade fence. (That's a great story in itself) After a few years I ended up getting a job offer and moved to the country surrounded by a wildlife reservation. My old house was sold to a wonderful young family. The woman was a very sharp young lawyer, and her husband was a police officer. After two attempts at causing trouble for the new family, (and the two law suites against the old neighbors........the old neighbors lost both) my old neighbors, moved away! WIN, WIN!!
You gotta love to see the busybody Karens lose 😎
That story warms my heart. Hear that Linda & John? I curse you to your graves, which I will spit on.
I wish people would stop calling women that. The guy was more of a jerk than she was, even though they were both unkind.
@@ercokattyIf you get called Karen a lot, there is a reason. You must be "that neighbor". Stop being a Karen, and the world will quit calling you one. There should be a rehab for people like you.
@@ercokatty not only that but it's so last year.
As a homeowner, if that was my tree and on my property line, I would immediately have it removed for the safety of my neighbor and their property. I would be ashamed and embarrassed otherwise. Shame on him and his snotty wife!
I can truly relate Norbert. One of our core values is Extreme ownership and it would compel me to do as you have said. instagram.com/tv/CXGmjZ7JD4v/?. Thanks for your comment!
I agree - I would do the same. That said, how does an ethical, moral and good values based neighbor pay Mr.Game of Trees in those tight situations? This is not cheap work and I would loose sleep knowing 5,000lbs of tree will fall on my neighbors garage before figuring out my financial solution.
I'm a newbie homeowner.
@@johncollins7044 Here is AZ, if the neighbors tree is hanging over my fence, I can trim to the fence. I have done it to my neighbors oak on one side and my other neighbor has done it to my tree that is hanging over his pool. I have no issues with it either way.
@@nmopzzz i live in tucson and i researched about trimming trees coming across property lines, and what he says in the video about if you trim and kill the tree than its on you is true here. dont believe everything you hear.
I would propose that we share cost, we both win.
That neighbor is terrible man. He is nothing but trouble.
I love your wisdom.
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And don’t forget his patriotism/ flag flier
“I’m not trying to be difficult” means I’m going to be a pain in the ass.
Great job
"Yes you are."
Not trying, I know I am!
What he really meant is "I'm too cheap to pay you to take down the other side so if it unbalances and falls I want you to pay for all the damages so lets get it on the record."
means he's not going to be railroaded and taken advantage of.
@@circusboy90210 because that’s what he does to others.
“I’m not trying to be difficult.”
I’m just being a total shit stain instead. 😁
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I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm pretty dammed good at, so good in fact I don't even try. LOL
he disagreed with everything by saying " I understand" LOL
@@jeff-ji3kh That’s a great observation. I hadn’t noticed that.
@@jeff-ji3kh Jimmy Carter was the all-time grand master of this tactic. Whenever he said "That's a very good question" or "I'm glad you asked that question," he then totally changed the subject.
My neighbors on either side of me had a few big trees leaning over my property that were becoming a hazard. When their arborists showed up you know what I did? I introduced myself, unlocked all my gates, offered them access to my property from both sides, and told them thank you and be safe. No idea how people can be so un-neighborly.
It's called NIMBY-ism and it's always been there. Looking up videos of parents holding up signs when the N word when school busing was a thing. School bussing was immediately killed in the courts because rich white parents don't want their children brushing shoulders with poor minority kids.
these days people are just assholes, even when walking along side of someone in a store for a few seconds, people just tend to make it awkward when it's really nothing. No one is intentially trying to invade your space, it's just a shared moment in time so there's no need for the long face. I mean we all share these side by side moments all the time everyday. For example we all do it all the time in our vehicles when we are on the freeway. There could be a racist driving along side a thief who is driving along side a sextet who is driving along side an off duty cop who is driving along side a mother driving her children driving along side a man going to work, We all share that same shared space everyday without letting our personal views get in the way of the flow, but as soon as people get out of there vehicles and do the same thing when walking, there's always going to be some asshole who just has to be an asshole. Like I said, in these days People are just assholes, and they are assholes for no real reason but just to be an asshole.
You are a good neighbour.
It amazes me how people can live just feet away from each other but yet be so indifferent towards each other. It's like, You have to look at each other every day so, how does that work?
I did the same when my neighbor had his tree cut. Was really a threat to my house, but easier for them to reach from my yard.
I paid to have a tree removed on my property that had NO BEARING or safety issue to MY property but was a major risk to my neighbor. He is a retired marine and his wife died 3 years ago so he is alone and on a fixed income. If anything happened to his property from damage it could ruin him. I paid to remove the tree and wow it’s expensive but worth it. He came over like a couple days later and thanked me profusely. I’ve been that man’s neighbor for 37 years now. Since I was a kid. When my parents retired I bought the house. Let me tell you being on good terms with your neighbors is ESSENTIAL to having a happy life. Don’t be like those assholes because one day you’ll need to count on your neighbor for something and trust me they will remember your actions. That same marine saved my ass when I was 17 and drunk at a party and didn’t know who to call to get home. I called him at 3 am and he picked up and didn’t judge me and got me home safe and sound. Never once told my parents either but he told me as a man I should tell them. He was a role model to me and I’m damn proud to have him as my neighbor. Idk why I felt so inclined to write this but here it is lol
It’s a great story, thank you. Someone likely benefited from it
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I'm an old woman but this made me cry. I don't know why but it sure struck a chord in my heart. Maybe I see in you what I had in mind for my son to be , but who never made it past 25yrs old before he took his life. Whatever the reason, THANKYOU Sir for sharing and God bless that marine neighbour. 🇦🇺🤗💞🙏✌️👍👏🇺🇲
Good neighbours are a blessing.
And you would have been financially liable anyway but good you took care of it
If the tree would of fallen and it was your responsibility you would be liable. They would most likely sue you and home owners insurance would kick in that instance. Bet you any money if his boat was in that danger he would fix it an instant. I hope karma doesn’t bite him in the end.
What a mess to deal with nasty neighbors, I appreciate you standing your ground!! Hooray for arborists everywhere 😊
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His tree, his responsibility. He’s lucky his neighbors are taking care of his tree that’s threatening their house.
Kind of a jerk if you ask me.
Have the exact same situation, he planted on property line -breaking french drain, blocking storm water drainage, tree is growing in my property..the neighbor is a total jerk
Kind of ??? that's an understatement.
Can't fix stupid
Instead of realizing that the tree over the property line is a definite risk to his neighbor's home and working with them to take care of it they would rather be obstinate asses about it. How many times do you see news stories of falling limbs from storms not only damaging homes but cause injuries even deaths and this Kevin and Karen pair of armchair lawyers want to be jerks. Unreal.
It's so easy to be easy going.
ABSOLUTELY a jerk. And I can tell the type via a hundred other indicators without him even saying a word about it. Go Hogs.
"I wanna make you aware... that I don't know what I'm talking about and I'm working off of hearsay and not taking responsibility for the tree on my property." Pretty much what he said. Lol.
😂
So what about the other arborist?
The boat home owner is legally responsible for the removal of that hazardous tree. If the tree had broken in the storm and fell without warning or prior knowledge then that is a different situation. I've been an arborist for 40 plus years, and have been to court on several occasions with people like the boat guy. The court will not rule in boat guys favor because as a property owner, he is responsible for the safety and upkeep of his land, and anything that extends over the property line. Boat guy is a negligent dope and a lousy neighbor.
You are very correct in your observations. The hazard trumps other details
This is what I honestly can't comprehend - how can one's neighbor's tree that unexpectedly falls on your property (for example in a storm) end up being your own liability? I mean, said tree wasn't ever your property to begin with. Am I just dense, or too tired, I just don't understand. This from someone who just paid them big bucks to have eight dying pine trees along a property line taken down out of caution. Thanks for any insight here!
Pretty much!
Some sharp lawyer could donate his services to the non-profit and sue the neighbor on her behalf for the full cost plus legal fees instead of half the cost of the removal as could have been negotiated with reasonable people. I'd love to see that happen.
The boat owner is probably so up to his eyeballs in debt the even though he knows the tree is his liability he can't afford to pay to have it taken down.
This guy seems like the kind of guy that would park his boat under a tree during a hurricane
“I took down another tree.”
So what? And he deliberately parks his boat right under the tree that he thinks is going to fall down. Not only that, the guy is such a clown that another tree service left and didn’t want to deal with him. Incredible.
He was hoping to pay the boat off 😂
From the looks of things, he still had his boat parked underneath the remaining half this past summer.
More likely, he would rather deal with the hassle of a claim and everything instead of mildly alter his behavior, like someone who thinks he is less of a man for moving out of someone else’s way on a sidewalk.
@@Austin1990 Well, just to note, you are less of a man if you're giving up more than half the sidewalk.
In all my 63 years I have never seen people take issues to such extremes like they do these days. Karen and his wife just HAD to come out and throw a tantrum.
people like the BOAT people always try and use thier youtube law degree
Try where I'm living and I'm in an HOA. Many residents here are all about themselves, making their own rules and bickering and badgering on line. Sadly this has happened in many instances.
Evil manifesting daily. All out in the open.
The problem is a generation of entitled people who want something for nothing and refuse to take responsibility for their property. It's unbelievable and so unnecessary. I mean, they could split the cost of having the entire hazard removed and save the drama for something much more important.
Karen and his wife (that's hilarious btw!!) are just typical of a so called civilized American society. No common sense or a hint of trying to be community. Just horrible. I get more sick of being an American everyday.
I love how he has all that driveway but chooses to park his boat right under the tree that he knows is a problem(from 2 other arborists)and tries to lay responsibility on someone else. Might as well admit he's struggling with his boat payment.
Insurance fraud, absolutely!
Exactly what I thought. And this video is proof that he's aware of it 😂
@@kimdracula_og - Oh, but he ain't gonna take the responsibility!!! No, he's going to dump that on that poor arborist he accosted on the driveway. It's as clear as bottled water that the ENTIRE tree was on his property but he was making the neighbors pay for removal of the half that was threatening their garage. People can be so ignorant.
I was thinking the same thing.
Right, probably trying to collect insurance payout if tree falls on it. But this tree is his responsibility. Lazy moron.
I can't believe the dude with the boat can't take ownership of a tree planted on his property. It floors me the level of slimeball trying to get out of paying money to do the right thing.
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yes, if part of the tree grown over to the neighbor, the neighbor has the right to remove it.
That's a big part of why he has a nice house and a boat. If he was a working man he wouldn't be such an A$$.
@@sandspar You really think a working man can't have a nice house and boat? Where do you live, Britain?
@@John-g8n2q Has nothing to do with having it, just a comment on how he probably got it. If he was a working man he would be more respectful to others, he's a jerk, jack leg contractor type, I live in God's country, thanks for asking.
You were not being aggressive. You were being firm. You did great.
Thanks
Exactly 💯 agree !!!
You are solid. Not aggressive.
Well done.
The Person holding the Camera, probably new 30 times more than that dickhead who was doing the arguing.
@@GameofTrees Here's how I would've spoken to him, in a very calm, moderate voice:
1. "As a professional Arborist, who has testified as an expert witness in court cases involving tree damage, I can tell you that cutting off this one main trunk is not going to impact the other main trunk structurally at all. So my work here is not going to negatively impact you at all."
2. "Because the trunk that goes into your neighbor's property is crossing his property line, and poses a potential hazard to his property, he has every right to cut off that trunk at his property line." (The fact that the property line goes up into the sky actually works in your client's favor here, not the neighbor's favor.)
3. "Because the tree poses a potential hazard to my client's home, *you* might face liability if we don't cut this tree back, and some might argue it's your responsibility to to do, since it's ultimately your tree, even if he has the right to trim anything crossing his property line.
4. "We're not going to sign anything assuming any liability here, because that wouldn't be appropriate. If you have any issues with your tree later, and want to try to sue me or my client over that, that would certainly be your right. However, I don't believe you'd have any legal basis to prevail on, and you'd therefore just be wasting your money."
5. "I think it would be best for everyone if we cut off the trunk at this specific point, but if you only want me to cut off the portion crossing over my client's property line, that's also fine. I'll then only be working on his side of the property line."
6. "If you want me to cut down your portion of the tree as well, and are willing to pay me for it, I'm also happy to do that. It's just not my or my client's responsibility to do so unless you cover the cost."
You're not being aggressive. You're being honest and assertive. There's a distinct difference.
Amen
Hank Hill would be proud.
The absolute audacity of that neighbor. You’d think he’d be grateful that his neighbor was paying to have a portion of HIS tree removed because it was a liability to HIM.
If I were him, I wouldn’t even let my neighbor pay for it, I would. THIS is one reason why my nearest neighbor is 3000’ away from me.
Exactly! There was a tree directly on the property line between my house and the neighbor...giant ugly scrub pine. The new owner came over one day and asked if it would be OK with me to remove the tree. I offered to pay for half. No reason to be an butthead.
Nobody likes to pay for things like this - I get it. But it’s cheaper in the long run to just have it done and maintain good relationships with your neighbors. Seems like his neighbors are really nice folks
If I was the paying neighbor, I would have cut what overhung my land and been done with it.
If a tree in your yard breaks and crushes your neighbor's fence, their insurance company is on the hook in most states.
That big mouth neighbor must be kitty cat whipped soo he needs to act like that to convince himself.
It's really sad that the couple cares so little about their neighbors safety. All they care about is their own pocketbook.
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@@GameofTrees the ignorance of angry neighbor once he is on notice of the danger is amazing. Like the good neighbor, I would have mitigated the damage and been reimbursed by angry neighbor or his insurance. My lawyer would of been paid also by them.
I used to own a house that has a large pine tree that grew right in the middle of the property line and was leaning toward the neighbor's house. I hired people to remove 7 trees on my property after I bought my house. Trying to be a friendly neighbor and because it was on the property line, I offered to remove the tree at my own expense and he told me that he would sue me if it damages his house. The kicker was his house was abandoned due to total damage from a fire. I left the tree alone and a year later, he demolished his house. In the process, he knocked on my door and asked if I wanted to remove the tree and split the expense. I reminded him what he told me and closed the door. Sometimes, people don't have the gratitude for what was offered to them.
Thanks for the story!
I LOVE this story. Some people......
Good for you 👍
@@geosdev The tree did not affect my property one bit. There are certain people that you just have to avoid. They are too entitled, or just plane looney. Based on your colorful language, I guess you are one of those type of neighbors. If you call me an @$$ for not indulging someone who threatened to sue me when I was trying to be nice, than so be it. LOL
Ha! I also offered to pay 50% to cut 3 trees next to my house my neighbor planted 3 feet right next to our bedroom windows on property line. I think it was river birch trees. We lived in a neighborhood where the houses were close to each other. I offered to pay 50%. The roots began growing under my house and out the back yard. We couldn't even barely mow the yard without tripping on them. Then my house started cracking where the roots were growing in the bedroom. Then a limb fell and damaged my roof, not once but twice. She accepted my offer to pay 50%, finally 3 years later.. I was very patient with her. . I offered to find someone to cut the tree and she was adiment that she would do it and that was fine. A man arrived to give her a quote. It was evident they knew each other. . I was sitting on my back porch and he gave her a reasonable offer. Then she told him how terrible her neighbor was (me) and gave a sob story of her financial situation. She asked him to increase the quote and double it and when she got my 50%,it would be the amt of his original quote so she would not have to pay anything.. He agreed. Therefore I would be paying 100% of the bill . When I heard this, I learned how evil and crooked folks could be. She delivered the quote to me, and i told her when they are cut, call me and I will give 50% of his quote to her. When he was through, I gave him 50% of his original quote and told both of them that I heard their entire conversation. They were both in shock and silent. So she was still stuck with her half. Lesson learned. Many people are thieves and crooks..
He complains about the rest of the tree being a hazard yet parks his boat directly under it. I swear I am so glad to be a country boy living in the country. That way I can stay away from the big cities where life gets complicated. Nothing worse than a difficult, nosey neighbor. If that was any kind of good neighbor, they would split the cost 50/50 and be done with it.
It's obvious he's a crappy kind of guy, you can see the other three failing and probably going to fall on that house is nothing's done and he doesn't give to schitt's about it all he's worried about his his property real piece of work
Cites have lead dust & the county has parasites in outdated OSSF (sewage systems). Each has their problems.
'Cuase he's praying for a new boat, or the money for it.
@@SlackerU Most houses out in the country use a septic system, so outdates sewage system are not a problem.
@@TheHolypoopstick Yes they are. Leach Fields are banned yet 99.9999999% of peasants here think they're saving money by not having an aerobic system that doesn't get them sick.
Shit like this is so sad. I trimmed a tree and my neighbor came out and encouraged me to trim his side(which I didn't yet out of respect from going on his property). I said I would need to get on his roof, he gave me permission so I did. A week later he knocked on my door and insisted on giving me a $100 bill. I tried to refuse, but he's a stubborn old man and wouldn't let me go inside until I took the money. He's a freaking sweet old man. Nice neighbors are a blessing.
Great story, thanks
YOu too are a great neighbor.
@@ruthwest1459 No, YOU are a great Neighbor.
When everyone tries to make things good then everyone wins.
I am dyslectic and just awake, my brain switched the words "me" and "giving" (before the: "a $100 bill.") It confused me and it took an embarrassing long time before I got it xD
But yes, a neighbor you love to have!
In the question of "how much can a tree cost?", a formerly wooded lot next to our property was sold for development. The home owner at the front corner of our lot asked to cut down a "crappy tree" on our property, just in from the corner. He wanted it down because it was shading his soon-to-be front yard.
We said absolutely not - this is a very old, very valuable tree and would not be touched. Just to be sure, we sent this in writing, by certified letter.
He hired a tree company, told them it was his tree and had them remove it while we were out of town.
It was a 100+ foot tall, five foot diameter BLACK WALNUT. Likely one of the largest remaining in Ohio. If you just eyeballed it, the tree was something like 11,000 board feet. At something like $5 to $10 a board foot. as in "something like $100,000. And they had LET THE TREE COMPANY HAVE THE TRUNK (because they were idiots).
So...we got an emergency order to stop the tree company from selling the log, and sued the property owner. The judge was a country guy and went ballistic when he saw photos of the tree and copies of the letter (with signed receipts). He gave us triple damages at $90,000 valuation ($270,000) plus the tree company had to return the log to us, which we sold for $67,000 (it was actually over 12,000 BF, but the tree company had cut it into shorter logs. If it was in 30' sections it would have been over $100K).
The property owners went bankrupt and had to move.
so...not exactly common, but "the wrong tree" can cost you a lot.
What state do you live in. I'm in Pa. and we have that triple damage in our laws. I had a woman next door to me that had a chain link fence up and I hated it. I planted a row of arbs along it so I wouldn't have to see it. She came out one day with spray paint and said she was going to paint her fence. She sprayed my arbs also. I went to a lawyer friend of mine and he told me any damages would be tripled automatically. It was nice to hear.
Serves 'em right!
Yeah, well, I hope you bought some decent Scotch after that. I sure would have needed a few bottles of it, that's for sure!
that hurts me to read... Trees like that aren't something money can hardly even value; there's no getting a new one there without taking losses ecologically and financially across the board.. or waiting a century...
I guess the neighbour figured that once the tree was gone there might be some arguing but not much more. It clearly never entered their mind that the tree might be worth a lot in timber. Surpirised the tree company didn't cut it to maximise value, but they were getting paid twice anyway. Trees like that, the loggers pay you to remove it.
The tree owner is a perfect example of what society is becoming. No one takes responsibility for their problems, or actions. Stand up and pay the rest of the tab to remove your tree.
Agreed if the neighbor was a decent human being . This guy might have given him a few bucks off to take the whole thing down.
no kidding, what dipshit...looked like he even moved his boat just to put it "in harms way" 😆
Why should he remove his tree. The trees of the world need to be kept.
@@davidedbrooke9324 agreed there is nothing wrong with that tree. The neighbor douch bags need to mind their own damn business! If it fell it would fall on the owners house so what are they worried about?!
Unfortunately alot of us have been in this situation, I have a medium tree about 4 to 5 metres in height, it's an evergreen tibochina, beautiful purple flowers picked from the council list of non offensive species. But still the neighbour hacks at it. If she left it alone it would grow high enough not to be problem. It's not shading anything, their entire yard is concrete. Some people are just plant intolerant.
The home owner can legally force the neighbor to cut down his tree that is dangerously hanging right over his house. The guy with the boat should be happy the guy next door is happy to pay for removing the dangerous hazard.
Nope, you have to cut it at the property line
I'm surprised that there is not some legality that obliges the owner of the tree to do something about it when it is that hazardous to other people. That is the same as other negligent offenses.
@@kenthomas4668 Depends on the state we went through this a few years ago with a neighboor next door to my mother. Part of the tree had already broken off and damaged her roof. The city arborist had to come and declare the tree a hazzard- the city deemed it need to be removed at the neighbors cost or he would be fined each day it remained standing
@@trader025 yeah it does. In that case though it had already clearly become a hazard and had caused damage. Not convinced this tree is a hazard. Neighbor could certainly cut what is hanging over his property but not force the neighbor to remove the tree
@@noahcarver6072 here in Washington state, if you notify the property owner in writing that a tree is a hazard, from that point on they are responsible for damage that the tree does.
SMH... you can't fix stupid, and this guy is trying to have someone to blame when he's too lazy to take care of his own property. Scheesh!
He's not too lazy, he's just a cheap son of a bitch!
He has a ton of money for a new boat, but too poor to take care of his property.
Mr and Mrs Karen are just nasty people who make hell where ever they go. I do hope it all comes back to them.
"you can't fix stupid" damn, I thought I coined that phrase and it sure is true.
You are absolutely correct - life is too bloody short for such nonsense. As some smart person said “Don’t sweat the small stuff”.
Also: "Never argue with an idiot because they will drag you down to their level then beat you with experience".
You were very patient dealing with that guy. Maybe you should have billed him for your time advising him. Even if he was too dumb to listen. :)
Your property, your tree, your liability. If your stuff damages a neighbors property, you are responsible.
Do you want to buy your neighbors garage because its on your property
Thanks to majority of the manciple property laws you have a five foot working easement without threat of trespassing . As long as you repair any damage you my cause during your work.
😂😂😂😂 he’s trying to get over on getting a free cutting service 😂😂😂😂
@@RandomsFandom if the tree is his responsibility, why are the neighbors worried so much about it? The neighbors hired a fly by night tree cutter to cut down another man's tree?
If your neighbor hires someone to cut down your trees on your property, are you still responsible for liability?
I had a neighbors tree fall on my property. My insurance wanted a deductible. I didn’t want to pay the $500. Brought it to my neighbor. They refused to pay so I brought them to court. I sued for the entire cost of the removal and to repair the fence. Court ordered them to pay because it was their tree. So… in my experience, it’s still your tree even if it falls.
Yes that is exactly correct in most places.
I had a huge Locust tree, and a very large branch came down in a storm crushing my neighbor's fence and damaging my neighbor's roof. The insurance company said it was an "Act of God" and refused to pay my neighbor anything. They never sued me. They rebuilt the fence and the roof themselves.
@@hazelwood55 Their insurance would have covered it. Did they have insurance?
@@loralieisa I am not sure. I think they just paid for materials out of their pockets and did the labor themselves.
@@hazelwood55 I had an act of God happen to one of my trees that landed in my neighbor's yard. I did a quick internet search and found out their insurance would cover the damage, not mine.
What a terrible nasty neighbor. He should own up and pay up for his hazard trees.
He just doesn't care.
He wouldn't even have to if he shut his trap.
@@ericholdsworth6611 He reminds me of someone. :)
There is nothing worse than having a bad neighbor
Because of the neighbors we ended up moving to the country where you can barely see a neighbor.
"I'm not trying to be difficult" that is literally exactly what you're doing
If you really listen to someone like this, they will tell you that they are doing exactly that.
Aren't you kind of the Karen 👍
As a former police officer, I can tell you that the guy was full of it. The police didn't tell him all that hogwash. It's a civil matter and that's more than likely what they told him. I know for sure that cops don't like getting involved in those things because we can be dragged to court on it when we're already in court enough and held to some degree reliable or made out to be the butt if we tell them something inaccurate. We know criminal law not civil unless a civil law directly affects our jobs we're not trained on it.
I would think it is a city/county issue. In our county the inspector would deem it a dangerous tree and the homeowner would be responsible for removing it. If he refuses the county removes it and slaps a lean on the house.
@@karenross3457 yea but that's the inspector that's appointed by that governing entity, not the patrol officer that's got two service calls pending.
@@cerberusreaper9759 My point was it is not a police matter. Police here would not intervene either. I should have written county code inspector who writes the citation.
Ur not trained on much.
@@NirtieDigger yea because you were with me all the nine years I served.
The bad neighbors wanted something for free. That's all it comes down to....
They want everything for free.
"I'm not trying to be difficult..." For a guy who isn't trying, you're making it look easy.
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“An arborist or whatever you guys call yourselves” great job keeping your cool, I would have told him where to go 👍🏻
I could have sworn his said "the other three arbornists" 🤣
You'd think the dude would be appreciative of someone else taking care of his problem, at their expense instead of being belligerent.
Seriously!!!!
I agree with the tree owner
If someone was paying to take half MY tree down, I would be doing anything I could to help out. At least move the boat!
i think the guys concern was genuine. Those trees were connected via the root systen. If one set of roots die, the other will be compromised. As a contractor, I would have walked away from that job, but first try to talk that guy into taking the entire tree down.
@@nom5205 if he were concerned he would be getting the whole tree removed as fast as possible.
@@nom5205 Valid point
@@nom5205 Seems like way to me as well but the arborist disagreed.
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Agreed, we need more people like her in the world!
When I first moved into my house, I noticed a 70ft oak in the back that had split in the middle. It had heavy branches still on one side that would have taken out my neighbors backyard garage with his Model A and classic car inside...so I immediately trimmend off that branch. A few years later I noticed a woodpecker in the damaged area 35ft up and rented a 50ft boom to trim all the other branches that were a concern to lighten the load. I used to climb and cut, but at 62 I have money. Money is better. The neighbor helped with all the trimming and really appreciated that we were protecting his property. We're friends with the neighbors and they are worth the $500 it cost for the boom rental.
imagine having a neighbor so nice they are paying to have YOUR tree cut down from their property side as it's clearly a hazard, then coming out and complaining to the professional company they hired AND PAID to do the job....
I gotta believe these types of neighbor to neighbor tree disputes happen all the time. Happened to me 20 years ago when a new neighbor moved in next door and demanded that I cut the branches from my huge oak tree that were overhanging his lot. I had done my homework on the issue and told him to feel free to trim whatever he wanted from the tree as long as it was over his property line but since the tree was not diseased or otherwise a danger, I was not obligated take care of or pay for the removal of branches hanging over his yard. He has someone come out to trim the branches and told the tree service company that I said it was OK to trim the branches all the way back to the trunk - 10 feet on my side of the property line. I of course disavowed them of that notion and they were aware of the local ordinances and laws and had no problem with it. they dropped a rope from the branch onto the marked property line below and then stayed 6" on the other side of that line on all the branches they trimmed. When the neighbor came home and saw what was (and was NOT) done, he had a fit. Eventually he sued me in small claims court in an attempt to get me to pay for the work. Of course he did not prevail and I pasted the court's verdict on my window facing his kitchen window..
That’s why I’m not too concerned about getting sued. Many who try, abort the process, and many who don’t end up wishing they had.
The kitchen window thing was a nice touch... 😏😅👍☘
Why he never poisoned or introduced a disease into your tree Ill never know
@@MisterNineEleven Because in that case, the next step may be to introduce some lead into the blood stream of the neighbor. Please move in next to me so we can test that theory.
@@liwojenkins
Go ahead, my house has a water filtration system so...
If youre gonna try to poison a person over a tree youre probably as smart as one lol
“I’m not trying to be difficult”
It’s clear he’s being as difficult as his mind can muster up
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What a nasty neighbor. He’s just trying to get a free tree removal. “I’m just saying” is always the beginning of a debate with a d head.
When someone says "I'm not trying to be difficult" it's because in their own conscience, they know they are in fact trying to cause difficulties for someone. Lol. People are so damn crazy these days
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I just wrote the same thing. I hadn't yet seen your post yet. I agree 100%
Ya they are we live in crazy land
On a serious note, helping out someone running a sober living house, you are good dude. 🤛👍
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Hey man, just wanna say you’re one level headed guy, you seem like someone that can keep his emotions in check while dealing with temperamental adult children. You would think as a neighbor you would do the right thing but unfortunately not all ppl are not so nice.
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He's just trying to get both sides removed so he doesn't have to pay. You said it best, life's too short!
As someone who used to do tree work, yeah you're right 100%. I do not miss dealing with the entitled idiots.
Agreed. As an over-the-road driver on occasion I had to put up with one. Once in Charlotte, NC, I had to back to dock from the street and some entitled woman thought I was going to stop so she could get by when I was a couple of feet from the sidewalk. I acted as if I didn't see her and kept going. She stopped. She only lost maybe 30 seconds.🤷🏼♂️ I had another one complain and I just stopped the truck, set the brakes, got out and told them they were welcome to do it for me. They turned around and walked off.
@@donotneed2250 Well done LOL
I married a entitled idiot……good ridden to her.
It would have been so easy for dude to be like "how much do I have to chip in to get you to take both?" He probably would have gotten a great deal!
I had the same thought. ☺
This is So Fun! I just got done pruning two big Basswoods and a double stemmed Birr Oak. I've had hundreds of conversations like this. Had a guy call the cops on me. I welcomed him to. After a brief educational moment on arbor culture, I just kept working and in the end, the cops came over to me and said I was doing a good job and to stay safe. Stay safe up there my new friend!
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Being detailed and informative does not mean you’re being aggressive. You were respectful while being straight forward. Great job 👍🏿
So let me get this straight. It's his tree, it's not his responsibility. It's your responsibility to take it all down. They own the air too. Got it 🙄
This brings back painful memories plus conversations just like this one! Trying to make sense of NONsense. We finally moved but some people will just not take in common sense, which makes it less common. That neighbor made a trench on our shared property line while my first grandchild was being born. Meanwhile she had no problem stepping over that line whenever she felt like it! Nightmare Neighbor, Thy name is Carol!
With my property I have no issue with a neighbor cutting any branch that encroaches on his property providing if they do they are responsible for removal of anything they trim off....I get pissed off when they dump that shit back over the fence.
@@janesmith5967 Lol, no. I am a retired air traffic controller. The US military owns all US airspace which it delegates to the FAA for the use of commercial, private, and military aircraft. Depending on the area you live, your property line generally extends between 80 to 500 feet in the air. Anything above that you do not own unless there is some exception made, like for tall buildings, etc.
@@shadowbanned5164 In the U K it's law if you cut back any branches on your side of the fence you have to give them back to the neighbour.
@@catherinewilliams3850 Wow as I said that will definitely piss me off...Not a really great idea to piss your neighbor off bad things can happen.
I like how he kept agreeing with you then went on disagreeing with you over and over
I see what you’re saying 😂
THat's a common tactic of people who are socipaths or bordeline sociopaths. They just cant help themselves pulling that behavior. I will stop them and say, "You DON'T agree. You've NEVER agreed, so STOP SAYING YOU AGREED!"
Yeah what a jerk!
As soon as someone says "I'm not trying to be difficult" thats exactly what their trying to be.
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The neighbor either wanted you to take his tree for free or doesn't like the sober-living house next door. What a "Richard."
LOL, yeah Richard Cranium
William Martin. You are too polite!
He was Probably hoping you would take his side down with the other half at no cost to him. One on every block. As the home owner he 100%should be paying for the entire thing.
Call the town building inspector if the tree is fractured and windstorm damaged and it is in danger of falling onto your home or garage.
Once you drag the building inspector into the issue more than likely the owner of the property where the tree sits will likely have to take down the entire tree. Not only could the tree owner be held financially liable if his clearly damaged tree falls down and damages your property, but the tree owners can also held 'Criminally Negligent' and fully responsible if the 'known' hazard that exists on their property causes physical harm to anyone.
ya i would be very curious what the city would have said if they were called out
I can understand the neighbors concern. Recently our neighbor had a tree removed. The removal company asked if they could park the equipment in our yard to avoid their septic system. We agreed as we have been neighbors for 40 years and they are lovely people. The tree company completely ripped up our lawn, bounced a huge limb off our garage causing roof damage and bounced a large branch off our car causing $2500 in damage.
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Wow that company had a bad day.
The people who paid to have the tree removed should sue the neighbors for the removal fees.
They could easily win in small claims court. The tree belongs to the neighbor but grows into their yard, creating a hazard. The neighbor is on video complaining about how the arborist can't cut their tree. Smh
I don't think he would win. He did what he was allowed to do which was cut the tree at the property line. You can't make your neighbor cut down an entire tree just because a branch comes over your property line.
@@rogersmith7808 the broken tree was creating an imminent hazard so removal of the tree was needed to prevent any additional damage or injury. Had the tree actually broken down and landed on the garage then the garage owner would have been liable for the damage to their property and removal of the broken tree. In this case I'd bet the arborist donated his time and labor to the non profit and by doing so the boat owner didn't have to pay for the removal. He actually did the boat owner a big favor by not billing him for the removal.
It's OK everyone. He already cut one tree down. No more obligation. 🤣
@@jti2007 Do you know a lot about these things? I have a neighbor with an obviously dying tree , it branches across and over my house. but if I remove the limbs over my property line there is still lots of weight that would make it fall my way, on my house. The neighbor is a jerk like the boat owner and wont let me pay to remove it and says it is fine. My arborist that trimmed everything but that tree because he was throwing a fit even about trimming to his property line. My arborist said it is dying and is a hazard and will fall someday. Is this something I could go to the city with and get the tree condemned? Which would make the tree owner responsible for the removal before damages? or if not removed responsible for the damage it causes? Cause I know if it falls on my house it is my damage ,my insurance and possibly my injury.
Well done Kevin. The neighbor were really trying to press your buttons and bully you, but you held your ground and very politely stated facts, then went about your visit. If the other tree services talked to the neighbor they probably decided the hassle just isn't worth it. I'm saving this video for future reference.
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You're right about the hassle. I work for an insurance co. One lady called up & teared me a new one. I told her, "This is really something that needs to be handled by your independent Agent." She said, "They told me they don't write for you anymore!" Yeh, 'cause you probably tore into them too & they decided you're not worth the trouble!
I don't see where you were aggressive in the slightest. You were very professional and simply stated facts. Good for you.
It is always a good idea to be nice to neighbors as much as possible and use kindness and not anger.
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Once you told me the back story I can see you have a heart, the guy was being a jackass and thats his problem, being in the construction business for many years myself I have had to deal with tons of amateur attorneys. Full of bluster but when the shit hits the fan they are nowhere to be found. I too have had addiction problems over the years and have worked with a sober living facility and thats a noble cause and you earned my respect. Thanks. People like him was the reason I needed a drink.
My attitude was more of a sheep dog than bull dog. Thanks
I freakin HATE getting involved in those situations. You did a good job.
Great job dealing with him. That looked really stressful dealing with that asshole, but you kept cool. You weren’t aggressive you were just assertive and confident in your work and the legality of the situation going above and beyond by explaining it clearly and simply.
If it were me I’d have asked for a deal on the rest of the tree and how it would help us both out to take the whole thing right then and there rather than wasting time arguing.
And I would have given that deal:)
wow some people have too much free time, your patience is impeccable. 10/10
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Kudos for holding your line. I have my trees cared for yearly to avoid exactly this risk. Prevention is cheaper than cure. $800 a year is a bargain compared to a half-ton branch coming through my house or car. All about managing risks and looking at the big picture and not just the 90 days in front of a person
The disgruntled neighbor feels like someone is touching his property and has no right to do so. He doesn't care how the situation affects anyone else. Really bad and narcissistic neighbor. I have several neighbors just like that too.
Self-centred , over-entitled neighbour who really should be paying you for the work.
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They were just trying to get the rest of the tree removed at no cost to themselves.
The moral of this is that you have to know what you are planting AND what it will grow into and do not plant trees that will get huge and brittle and fall on your neighbors property during a storm or when it eventually dies. The same goes for planting trees close to or under power lines. How many wide spread power failures are due to trees and their limbs.
That tree was alive before that guy owned that house. That is one big old tree!
Not even talking about fire hazards and life threatening injuries! Then boat couple sell to pay for the rest of their lives ?
That's what insurance is for. Otherwise why have it???
@@Joseph70663
Insurance is what you buy in the hope you never need it. Insurance is not what you buy so you can be neglectful, careless, or just plain lazy and then have someone else pay for your neglectfulness, carelessness, or laziness. Insurance is for those things that you can do nothing about but happen anyway or acts of nature that you can not control.
Where a tree is planted is in your control. If you did not plant the tree but ended up owning it, then you are responsible for it encroaching onto a neighbor's property and removing it if they declare they want the encroaching tree you own removed from their property. If you refuse to comply with your obligation then they can remove the part of your tree on their property and you can deal with the consequences.
In this case, the neighbor was paying for the removal of the tree from their property and the owner, probably for a small amount extra, could have had the rest of the tree removed and everyone would have been happy. But just like a typical bad neighbor, he did not want to pay the cost of being responsible and was desperately trying to get the arborist to remove his part of the tree for free. I will bet dollars to donuts that this person will pout and blame his neighbor and the arborist for any damage that occurs to his property and be resentful and condemning.
I like the way that you handled it. Very professional. A bit of chuckle in your voice told me you don't take bull from jerks seriously, and that's keeping the good energy within to focus on the job at hand.
Had two pine trees on my property, they were hanging on my neighbors roof. They asked and I had them removed, because they were a hazard to their roof. The neighborly thing to do, much less the right thing to do.
"So, I just want you guys to know that if this hazardous tree that I haven´t taken care of and my neighbor is paying to get removed from his side falls on my side and on the boat that I deliberately parked under it, then i´m going to be blaming you guys"
-A Karen neighbor´s logic
And a number of commentators fail to observe those blatantly obvious truths 😂 nice post!
Lol. Love how you worded that.
Life is DEFINITELY TOO SHORT for CRAZINESS like this! GREAT JOB!✌️❤️💐🤷♀️
Sometimes the best neighbors are the ones that live miles away.
Or ones that walk on all fours
@@rhondabeirne8560 Unless they're deer that eat your bushes and flowers
I think you handled the neighbour very well. 🇨🇦🇺🇸4ever
Thanks Kind Sir
I think you handled it appropriately. You corrected them, educated them and explained what you are going to do repeatedly. I don't have the patience that you do. Great work. You are buddah.
You explained this tree removal beautifully and did a fantastic job that a lot of experts would not take on the hastle. You are great arborists and a true joy to watch.
Thank you so much for your kind words.
Of course he parks his boat under that “hazardous tree” and right where you are working. I love these people acting like a lawyer with the “that’s how it’s gonna be” garbage. They both need to kick rocks.
As far as being aggressive, you were way more cordial than I think I could have been. Good on you for standing to Ken and Karen.
Thanks
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Outstanding video and excellent commentary. I learned a few things I thought I knew, but didn't. Thank you sir for your excellent work and also your kindness and professionalism. Much respect to you. God bless you.
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“Let us raise a standard to which the Wise and Honest can repair, the rest is in the Hands of God.” George Washington
Yet another reason to never live in an area where houses are so close together.
@@verreal, I had excellent luck with that. 😉
You are so right life is too short and the neighbor is totally unreasonable.
That neighbor was an ass . He should have said take the whole thing and I'll pay you for your time . It wasn't like you weren't already there with your equipment I'm sure you would have done it . You gotta love those type of nosy neighbors who want an argument. Great video !
I would have begged for the arborist to consolidate the cost
@@rl4889 he would've done that for sure! I'm positive that the arborist has done that before many times . Neighbors fight over trees daily in towns and cities he's seen this situation often.
Police don’t have any grounds to make a decision over this. What a joke!
And they certainly couldn’t stop me from removing a know hazard. Here’s how it finished 18 months later th-cam.com/video/TASyNcK7HcQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PKYUJCmCbJphoy2o
If his tree is causing an immediate hazard he is responsible for removing that hazard period ! If he doesn't and I'm forced to remove the hazard I would sue him for the cost or tell him to shut the blank up ! What the hell is the matter with people these days ! Take some responsibility people !
I have a lot of experience with this, and while regional laws do vary, in most parts of the country you would not be correct. Yes an owner is absolutely responsible for any part of a tree that that presents an obvious hazard to a neighbor if THAT PART of the tree is present on his own side of the property line. ANY part of a tree however that is present anywhere on the other side of the property line is the sole responsibility of the neighbor. You can take it to court, but in most of the country you would absolutely lose.
Great diplomacy guys. Dealing with fools is never fun. You guys did a good job.
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I used to own a tree service in California and the law stated that you could trim anything that hangs over the property line from a neighbors tree as long as you don't compromise the health of the tree. Also, homeowners insurance pays for damage caused by a tree according to where the branch falls if the tree breaks. In other words, if your neighbors tree falls onto your house, your insurance pays for the damage. It is based upon where the tree lands, not where it came from. Having said this, if a neighbor can be shown to have been negligent in caring for his tree and it fell on your property, you could sue and may prevail. This is really one tree growing from the same roots. The entire tree is junk.
I think notice of a hazardous condition is also required to prevail in court.
I have a question? Most river birch stem from the ground in 3 to 4’s spars but if you cut one of those spar will it kill the rest of the tree?
No, those are separate trees placed together by the nursery. They will graft in older large specimens but we have often removed one stem.
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@@GameofTrees thanks man !
Nothing worse than having Karen and Ken as neighbours.
Good luck to this woman, she’s doing good work in her deceased son’s name.
But what's even worse are those little Mama's boys called Dougie.
@@kennethzullick6897 Ha ha ha ha, my brother’s name is Kenneth. 😂
Worse than Ken and Karen for neighbors is having a slum full of drunken Kens and Karens under a noisy pub. I eventually couldn't take it any more and moved towns to go live with a nature preserve on my one boundary line, reasonable neighbors both sides and no blasted pub or slum within five kilometers.
@@celticphoenix2579 That sounds idyllic.
The root originates on your property, you should be paying to take the tree down before it falls on the neighbor's garage. That's it. Period. The neighbor shouldn't even be paying for that. This guy is the biggest a-hole I've seen in a while. No honor. No sense of responsibility. No neighborliness.
Hardly anyone has any responsibility for anything now. People are absolutely gone in the head.
Looking at the state of that tree with the giant crack in it, it is his responsibility to make it safe for his neighbour again. I can't believe he's argueing about it and even lettting his neighbour pay for his own tree...
amen brother
Or you just do what i did and they did, chop down half their tree, because they have shitty neighbors. Told my neighbor their tree is pushing down are fence. He told me to f off. so i replaced the fence and cut his tree right down the property line. He tried to take me to court and was told he has no leg to stand on. Because i did the smart thing and got the state/county to give me the go a head.
Exactly! I don't care what the law says if it grew from my property, I would pay to have it removed. He know it can fall onto his neighbor's property and cause damage or even death.
Handled it perfectly, obviously has a lot of practice dealing with these difficult people. I have a relative with a crazy psycho neighbour and it's so bad they had to move. I luckily have great neighbors who offered to pay half when we wanted to remove a large tree that was kind of on both our properties.
This is exactly why I lived way out in the country with my closest neighbor a quarter mile away - and that's my son.
I would've walked away after 30 seconds 😂
You're a legend.
You are absolutely right about if the tree is standing or falling being an insurance adjuster myself there is a loophole to that if the homeowner gets a certified letter sent to the owner of the tree letting them know of the hazard then it becomes that person's job and responsibility to have that tree taken care of and if something does happen to it after that letter has been sent then it is the tree owners insurance responsibility to take care of anything that happens any damages
@@Ephemeral2023 A tree located dead center of a property can be a hazard to the neighbors, so by your reasoning, kill all urban trees.
@@Ephemeral2023 It's primitive marking behavior in humans akin to dogs peeing on hydrants. For humans, when they alter land they are claiming it.
"I'm gonna hold them responsible." Has no authority. 😂
Also, he denied he was saying you're responsible 30 seconds before he said he was going to hold you responsible. Bet he gaslights his family too.