Top 5 Mistakes With Reverb Pedals
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To follow up on my Top 5 video on delays from last week, here’s a Top 5 mistakes with reverb pedals this time!
What we cover in this video:
- Settings for always on reverbs
- Pre-delay: what it does and why it matters
- Best use of modulation on reverb pedals
- How not to sound cheesy with shimmer reverbs
- 100% wet reverbs: can all pedals allow it?
I hope this is going to be useful to you in your reverb explorations!
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A great, instructive video. I've used pre-delay to shape my reverb as part of the effect, but I've never considered how it can provide necessary space as part of the picking dynamic. Great tip!
Much respect bro. It takes effort to explain the small things in such detail. Appreciate you. Keep it up! 🙏🏻
Very helpful. The subtle uses are surprisingly impactful!
Excellent lesson. Thank you!!
Great tips man well done
Well done, thank you. Good things to consider, artistically and creatively speaking.
Thank you for sharing helpful tips!
thank you for the great tips!
Good job Antoine, Great stuff.
Thanks Antoine this helped me a lot! As always, loved your amazing playing
My pleasure! Thanks :-)
I have the Big Sky and Immerse MK2 as well, best reverbs around imo. The Immerse W3T setting might just be my favorite reverb sound ever...
Neunaber's WET is pure magic.... that algorithm plus their shimmer algorithm elevate the Neunaber pedals beyond the Strymon offerings IMHO
This has been a very useful video, thankyou 😁👍
Fantastic suggestions, thank you!
Great help , I have the Strymon Blue Sky and Brigadier, I have also just ordered the Neunaber. Thank you for your help.
I’m impressed with your ability to hear such nuances in the sound. I enjoyed listening. Thank you
Great tips! :)
Thanks a lot for your helpful tips
Thanks for the guidance, Antoine
Merci Antoine, tu es le meilleur. Such useful detailed info and I love your passion for music and helping others !
Thank you so much, it means lot to me!
Well done!
Fantastic Work 🙌👌 - Regards
thanks, nice tips
Very nice video My friend, would you use the afterneath pedal as one of your main reverbs?
cool idea for tip4 , nice demo for overall!
You are professional man!
I completely agree with your points on Shimmer. I use both the Caline Wonderland and TC Florescence but I use them in small subtle amounts for a bridge, intro or outro
I have some reverb pedals collected over the years. Avalanche, HW Supernatural, Afterneath, Silverlake. I will likely sell the Avalanche Run and get a Nightsky. I have a use for it in mind for my side channel. I use a mixer in front of my Stereo tube amp so I can side mix things like guitar synth effects and different ambient effects. Parallel process is what makes the "algorithms" sound so good.
Very good tips Antoine. I think the the pre-delay helped me especially to keep my guitar from sounding to be like it's drowning in a pool of reverb. Also about the shimmer, the effect should be used wisely. How much is enough depends on personal taste. Yet, a good go-by would be listening to U2's Joshua Tree. It helps to determine where and when to use shimmer. As far as droning goes, no need to limit shimmering. Personally I believe shimmer is appropriate for synths. So to me it depends on the style and what not.
Merci becoup mon Ami. Until next time!
I do the same with the immerse, always on and as second reverb I use the specular reverb v3
Wow that immerse sounds great
Super informative. Thank you
You're welcome!
I respectfully wouldn’t call any of these “mistakes” as they can be someone’s creative choice and there is no right or wrong way to use the reverb. If I’m not using a modulation on my reverb, it’s not a mistake, it’s a personal choice. So is using it ...
Yeah... video should be called "cool things you can do with your reverb"
Good point, but he still has some valid perspectives.
BigSky's shimmer is excellent if you tweek it right... It can create harmony choir voices if done right...
Nice tips - you're right: PreDelay is often overlooked :)
Doesnt hurt that your guitar playing is quite good. Even playing the "wrong" settings, still sounds good. ;)
What are some pedals you recommend that can go 100% wet? Also, does the BlueSky or the others you’ve compared have the freeze option? Thank you!!!
Top 5 mistakes I make every day. I will be adjusting today. Thank you. Some days I play like Perry Frank, some days I play like I’m giving a score to a bar fight. My playing style is bipolar.
I totally agree.I don't use Shimmer anymore. in the beginning everyone was enthusiastic about this sound until they realized that it was too much. For me it is also unusable in the Band context. Thanks for your Video👍very helpful
I sometimes use touch a lower octave shimmer with single coils...that is not too bad
Shimmer works great on E-Pianos (especially 5ths) and on acoustic guitars. Not so much on electrics. Unless your name is The Edge.
@@tonirazz5565 now you are telling that...I just sold my shimmer reverb LOL...I am using the Walrus SLO only lower octave shimmer in that one I have to try the shimmer with the acoustic
I have 2 reverb pedals (Slö and Polara) but there’s no pre delay knob on both. Any workaround?
Still waiting my Immerse MK2 :(, hope the next week came to me
i have an always on reverb sound, but it's a small room sound because mostly I play rock / metal. When I play ambient I have a big spaceous echoverb that's being bloomed by an analog delay with heavy modulation.
Yes I remember hearing Shimmer effect couple years ago baking it sounded cool but it didn't really fit in my style playing either even when I got some Reverb pedals with it some of them sounded better than other ones it was never really something I would use often because I prefer to layer my sounds and I think the Shimmer only works if you're only have one guitar part going to try to kind of be a keyboard and guitar I want to start lowering Parts than out of Shimmer with it
Good tips...
great demo, thanks much my friend...! was wondering why you use 2 reverb pedals in your setup...and which one of them do you prefer?
I keep one always-on for the ambience, and the other one for the biggest, over-the-top effects. I love both on my board!
about always on... if i have 2 reverb on board, one of them always on (WET) AND the second (bigsky) using me for ambiaent sound, do i use them bout together? in what order?
Awesome tips... if you have the BigSky and the Immerse reverb pedals. 😅😅😅
Seriously, there are a lot of reverb pedals out there that don't have any control for pre-delay, modulation or shimmer. As a undeniable example: the legendary Boss RV-3. So, only the first and the last are universally useful tips for any reverb pedal.
Thanks for the clear and well-done video, anyway! ✌
I agree a little bit with the use on shimmer, but is the way u use it, the notes u use it on this.
Excellent, solved my problem; everything - always on. Lol
Hi, Antoine! I don't know if the order in which you listed things "not to do" was intentional, but it sparked a question: When trying to dial in the perfect setting for a custom preset, is there an "order of operations?" I know it's art and there are no "rules," but since we're layering dynamics/parameters, it seems there would be some intentional choice about what should be laid down first...? Yea, I know your answer would probably launch a thousand arguments to the contrary and that it's probably a reflexive act based on experience, but it doesn't invalidate the curiosity. As always, thank you!!!
Is the immerse as good as the illumine neunaber
I really like the shimmer in the TC Electronic Hall of Fame 2. I feel like the expensive pedals have really harsh annoying sounding shimmer reverbs for some reason.
Tone is probably really high. If you adjust tone down, it sounds more ambient than in your face harsh. Big sky shimmer isn’t subtle at all though, no fix for that. Boss RV6 is my fav shimmer with tone at 20. Might get one soon.
Wow it's the opposite you need to learn to use reverb.
great demo! what guitar and amp are you playing through here?
Guitar: Suhr Classic Antique Stratocaster
Amp: Suhr Badger 30 & Vox AC15 played at the same time in stereo
Good video. Honestly, the shimmering thing sounds cheesy cheap keyboard alien pad, no matter what. But great tips, thanks a lot.
I've successfully managed to overlook the pre-delay of my EHX Oceans 11 until this video... Merci beaucoup!
Also, do you plan to do a demo on the Oceans 12?
Didn't even know the Oceans 12 existed before now. Will check that out!
Oceans 12 is another beast base on the official demo, can't wait to see it demoed by the maestro Antoine
I giggle every time you say Dyna-mix 🙊 also good video as always 👍🏻
Gotta learn english pronunciation the hard way :-)
@@AntoineMichaudGuitar you need to "devil up" your English.
If you wanna immitate a huge room with hall you have to put a good ammount of predelay on.
It is really unrealistic if not because in a big room or stadion arena etc. it takes the reflections a while to come back to your ear.
Which means that long decay halls without predelay is completely unrealistic.
An issue I have had and hopefully you could clear this up for me... Are there Reverbs that work well in front of an amp? I know the effects loop is ideal. Also, certain amps take pedals in front better too but can you comment on that? What amp and/or Reverbs work well in front of an amp? Also, in mono?
Everything you are hearing on my channel is actually in front of the amps! Yes, it's ideal in the effects loop, but far from mandatory. The big principle here is to setup your amps very clean. As long as your amp is not on the edge of breakup, or pushing into overdrive, you are ok. The goal of using the effects loop is to bypass the gain section of the amp so you don't end up adding reverbs before gain (because your pedals are before your amp, right?). So any amp that can provide you with the cleanest of cleans - most often done with low gain and high master volume settings - can work. I'm thinking Fender amps or Vox AC15 or 30 (like I'm using), or really, any amp that is known for good clean sounds.
@@AntoineMichaudGuitar Awesome response and thank you!
I've had a lot of problems with delay for the same reason, the gain stage amplifies the delays and sounds terrible. So, I'm going to play around with different dirt pedals into a Reverb into a clean amp.
Thanks again!
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Love that the first mistake is NOT using reverb lol, great video!
Agree. I keep a tiny-amount of Fender spring-reverb, as my always-on/base-sound, and hit the Big Sky when I want to Take-off & get Massive. Great Tip Antoine.
I've learnt some stuffs..
You r a nice gutarist n content creator...
Thanks, I appreciate it!
@@AntoineMichaudGuitar you're welcome..
Yep most shimmer reverbs are crap. I use the the H9 shimmer to create synth like drones, but that has options for pitch shift down as well as up so you can make that sound really really good and not at all cheesy. Otherwise I use a shimmer I created on the Empress Zoia specifically for doing With or Without You.
I was wandering Is anybody using compression after reverb instead of before to make it thicker?
im planning on using a line booster on my rack reverb to bring it up more in my fx loop. im hoping it does thicken it up!
Martino De Lazzari Wouldn’t you also be compressing the dry signal? though that of course can be cool if that’s the sound you want. Some pedals have an effects loop so you can put the compressor just on the trails to thicken them up alone.
I have a small board that I use live and I am experimenting with different positions of the compressor pedal. I can put it first on the chain, after the overdrives, after the reverb/delay but before the amp sim or at the end of the chain after the amp sim. Every position has some pros and some cons...I haven't made my up my mind yet...
Martino De Lazzari as with all these things there is no right or wrong just what works for you. Heavily depends On The type of music you play too. I use an optical compressor at the start of my chain just as a sweetener and to improve the feel under the fingers. Others use it after overdrive as a boost pedal. Good luck with your experiments.
T'as des recommandations dans le price range de 300$ pour des pédales de reverb sur lesquelles on peut mettre des octaves (genre shimmer) mais avec des modulations et qui permet de go 100% wet ?
Pas beaucoup de choix pour ce que tu demandes, c'est bien vrai. Récemment j'ai essayé la Neunaber Illumine qui permet tout ça, mais est hors de ton budget. La seule autre que je vois serais la Electro Harmonix Oceans 11. Elle permet d'aller 100% wet, a un mode shimmer, et sur le mode shimmer il est possible de contrôler les fonctions secondaires pour le speed et depth de la modulation. Elle est juste 200$ en plus. Seul bémol, elle est mono, donc si tu veux une pédale stéréo, il faut y aller avec la Oceans 12, elle est légèrement au-dessus de ton budget, mais pas trop comparé à une Strymon par exemple.
@@AntoineMichaudGuitar merci j'ai regardé la 12 et j'aime bien que tu peux stack des reverb sur une seule et même pédale. Je regarde aussi la Walrus Fathom, c'est presque ce que je cherche et elle est 200$
Si je décide d'aller dans le haut de gamme c'est la empress qui m'intéresse, au fond j'aime bcp les reverb avec un grain lofi et un modulator quasiment vibrato très lent. La fathom Walrus te donne une idée de ce que j'aime. Je me demande à quel point la bigsky peut atteindre ce type de sonorités.
Maaaan what are your patch cables?
George L's
What you say about shimer goes for so many fashions, discoveries and inventions. Like after the prog and power rock people got excited with the baseless and clean syths of the 80's. Naturally guitars and grunge with their human errors and sensitivity came on the block. Then later people got bored with this to. It's like when something new is introduced it always gets overused because of our childish excitement. So it takes some time for us to find back to these instruments or sounds and use them in moderation. Right now one might say that random modulations, tape and vinyl emulations, glitch and bitcrushing is the new "to much"?
Very good point!
Yeah, we're in the cassette tape loop obsession phase right now. We've hit peak 80's synth with the Weeknd's latest album, we're surely soon going to be fetishizing 90's grunge distortion and, digital aliasing and low quality samples
Man tu devrais faire tes vidéos en français aussi je suis sur que ça pognerait :) Nice job BTW ;)
Six: not using a Stymon Bigsky. 🤣
Exactly! Synths players should use the Strymon Nightsky with the Timeline. Good point!
Oh hell no... BigSky rules... Lol... 😂
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yea people are forgetting shimmer is very situational
Excellent demonstration of the Blue Sky. Now about that carpet....
Love my carpet :-) I took a dense one to cut most of the echo in my room and that worked really well!
wow ur new neighbour seems to be a pretty cool pedal
:-)
Maybe it's just my wallet talking, but the immerse sounds much better than the big sky?
I've had the immerse mk1 for 3 years and I don't regret a single bit of it
I have both. I have relegated the Immerse as my "always on" reverb because, for me, it seemed easier to get a more transparent reverb. I use the Big Sky for more focused or special types of reverb. I find the two pedals to be different enough as to be both very useful.
I recommended the Immerse to my friend who doesn't care for tweaking. He loves it and it is his "always on".
yes strymon pedals are a ripoff
I’ve had an Immerse mk1 for 3 years and up until recently it was my always on reverb when playing guitar live. Only changed it because it’s now the main reverb on the pedal board I use for all my synths when recording. Using it purely to provide a bit of room ambience doesn’t do the pedal justice. The Wet Algo is just incredible.
The Immerse MKII is an amazing reverb. Another of my favorites is the Keeley Omni Reverb from Sweetwater.com
5:06 Christopher Walken?
Nightsky is 100% wet too right
Yes, there are seperated knobs for Wet and Dry.
Cyber twin
Damm, the Bigsky's got a horrible, horrible Shimmer.
I love reverb pedals because they let us ditch the keyboard player, which allows me a bigger share of the $$.
Great video for people who never will use any overdrive / gain. Otherwise, absolutely pointless
Lesson of the day: SUBTLY is key.
Me when I look up the cost of a big sky - 😦
Disagree with #1, what you need to compete with other instruments is sustain which you can better get with a Compressor
Hahaha omg that is a terrible shimmer effect. My Big Sky has never made those sounds, that's an intentionally mangled preset you created to fix on this video, right?
I thought all 5 mistakes sounded good. 😂
This guy has more money and time than sense. Almost all of these would sound like a crappy washed out mess in a band