Immerse vs. Immerse Mk II by Neunaber (in-depth reverb comparison)
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0:21 Overview of the features on the Mk II
3:22 Wet reverb comparison
6:52 Hall reverb comparison
8:46 The new Sustain mode
12:07 Shimmer reverb comparison
14:46 Mix knobs comparison
16:22 Pre-delay knob on the W3T algorithm
17:29 Conclusion
18:24 Where to get your Immerse Mk II
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Here is an in-depth comparison between the original Neunaber Immerse and the new Immerse Mk II.
The Immerse Mk II has a ton of new features:
- Mix knob goes to 100% wet.
- Updated design and graphics
- New algorithms with optimized delay times for smoother and deeper reverbs
- The net W3T algorithm
- New sustain mode that allows you to freeze your reverb and get an infinite decay
- New optimized shimmer reverb combining and improving shimmer A and shimmer B of the previous Immerse pedal
- Increased headroom
- Improved switches
I truly believe this is the best reverb pedal from Neunaber to date. I highly recommend this pedal! I think this demo speaks for itself: the sounds are outstanding and very musical.
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Dude, you are nailing all the comparisons that I am looking for on youtube. Cheers bro!
Fantastic demo!! The MKII sounds amazing and the new features are great upgrades🤘. Well done!
Thank you, man!
Great demo Antoine! i have the Mark 1 BUT having a 'side by side' demo patiently explained is such a great idea. Thank you for posting. I find Neunaber pedals an instrument in themselves rather than 'JUST' a pedal. It enhances ones playing so well.
I agree, I always use the term ''magical'' when talking about Neunaber reverbs. They make me feel something other reverb pedals don't, but I can't put my finger on exactly why. Thanks for watching :-)
excellent video, exactly what I was looking for. thanks!
Wow, loved that freeze and solo over idea.. sweet!
I love your examples in comparing these to pedals but the even more important for me is....
Your very creative and lyrical playing.....very few can do what you do...
A nicely put-together & comprehensive demo, merci bien. Subbed.
I was tempted by this pedal but decided on an Expanse & the EXP controller instead. Well worth the investment.
You can't go wrong with any Neunaber. Thanks for watching!
Great demo Antoine, contemplating parting with my Blue Sky, but I may just need to add this guy to go along with it.
Me too!!
Much prefer MK I. I hear holes in the audio spectrum in MK II in the lower mid frequencies, it sounds a little thinner/colder and separated no matter what type of verb type it's on. On MK I everything is beautifully filled out and glued together. I don't hear that glue on MK II. Maybe it's the addition of new electronic components for the pre-delay for example in MK II that have slightly changed its overall tonal signature.
I tended to feel the same and just ordered a Mark I for that reason.
Great, clear video. Thankyou!
Bravo Antoine, well done. Thanks!
Really like your playing for the shimmer. Really easy to make the shimmer sound annoying, thankfully your playing makes it sound nice.
I have this pedal MK1 now 2020 and is still used daily
Thanks for a nice video. The Immerse first version is one of my favorite looking pedals of all time. I can see where it's easier to read the MK2.
Well done, Antoine!
Great comparison...I’d contemplated the original, but the mkII really stands out in the reverb market.
Agree about shimmer needing a subtle space to occupy, or it can sound too shrill and obvious. Nice demo!
Wow! Even after such a great demo I'm still on the fence. Each one produced a sound I liked. I think I'd start with the MK2 ,then the original for support. Absolutely great review on comparing both pedals.
Thanks man! Can't go wrong with either of these!
That infinite pad setting sold me on this pedal. was 95% there already, but now I'm defo ordering it. Thank you for being the fucking only demoer to feature that function!!!
I'm amazed at your playing and tone
Thank you!
Are you using George L patch cable between the pedals? I have some myself but my cable look more grey which makes them more visible on my black pedalboard. Yours look perfectly matched with the black strain relief caps though!
I really like the sound both of these.
When you compared the new hall to the old hall, you said the new was warmer, and I agree with the same tone settings. But did you try lowering the tone on the original to see if that made the original warmer. Maybe the new 12:00! o’clock is set to a warmer tone default. I just got an original so I will try to see if I can match your Mk2 by using the tone knob at say 9 or 10 instead of high noon.
I was so impressed with the sound quality of this video I had to buy the mk11 pedal. It arrived today and I can not stop playing through it. Quality through and through. I use nylon, acoustic, electric, 12 string. They all sound amazing with this pedal. Well done Antoine for taking the time to do this comparison right.
My pleasure, man!
Hi.. Which site is to buy.. Pls suggest... I want to buy..
Hi. I just got the mk2 and I seem to have a popping sound when I shift between the shimmer, tune and echo knobs. Is mine faulty?
A question, is it me or if when in sustain mode if I max out depth knob it turns of the pedal...?
I have the original Immerse. I like the new Wet, particularly the pre-delay, and the Sustain sounds great. I don't get what's so great about the 100% mix knob, though, its just exactly the same as the kill dry option. I use the Plate algorithm most, with the level high, the pre-delay at noon, and the tone and depth low. It sounds like an expensive studio reverb to me, like a Bricasti. Warm and multi-dimensional, that fills out everything without dominating. I don't think I'll upgrade. Good review
Very well done!
Killer video really! Could you compare the spring mode on both versions?
It would be great if you were to try to get the Immerse II shimmer effect using the BigSky. Can the BigSky duplicate that? What would be the closest setting? Thanks!
Thanks for the suggestion!
Is the Immerse MkII also capable of subtle always on Plate/Room type of sounds?
Is it just me or mark 2 kind of boosts your dry ? I know for a fact the og doesn't lower your dry but that switch from 1 to 2 i can def notice a dry signal boost. Did they do it because people were complaining about the og's level not being high/loud enough
Can the Immerse 1 do the effect at 9:17 - time down to zero killing the reverb?
QUESTION: I had an original immerse but found that the level had to be maxed to have enough wet when using the shimmer but it also created more noise... is the level on the mkii naturally louder?
Yes, it is, and by far compared to the previous version!
I ran into similar problems with the original. Very happy that's been fixed.
Great video, I think the shimmer on the original was better than the new one, have the A & B options as well makes it more flexible.
Daniel Horne I heard that too. I prefer the old shimmers, at least in this demo.
Dunno guys but i love so much the sound of the first immerse... Damn im uncertain!
salü michaud^^
MY question about the neunaber is concerned with the signal-chain-switching capabilitys of that pedal. I really want to buy it for it´s great form-factor, but there are some things that drove me crazy in the past, an so i would LOVE for you to share your insights on the following stuff! (especialli since it´s like REAL hard to find that kind of information at ALL !!) :
#-can it merge stereo back to mono?
#-can it do that without affecting the signal in any way (like, when ist´s swichted off, or in an always on but "kill wet" kind a way) ?
#-can you get an "sort-of-expression-pedal" capability, by putting a volume pedal upfront in the chain ?
#-is it a real stereo pedal, processing each signal seperately?
#-i how far can you affect each signal differently in a paralell processing setup (wet/dry split upfront the chain, both signalpaths with seperate boost/cut possibility)?
BTW, my pedal board is NOT all that big at all. (8 FX + Tuner + Looper...) but since i use it for guitar, bass, vocals and a digeridoo, i really run into such signal-pathy stuff a lot..........
Anyway, thank you everyone for any kind of information to this thread^^
merci!
How are they for gigging and resisting bad electrical surges and connections ?
Great video and explanation, mate!
What is your signal chain for this video?
Jeez, this is no longer a question of which one but rather a question if I can save enough to get both.
I wonder why neunaber removed the option to tweak the modulation of the wet-algorithm. Are you happy with the modulation as it is and do you appreciate the pre-delay knob instead?
To be honest with you, I have never thought about that up until now! If you asked me before trying the pedal, of course I would say that I would much better want a modulation knob compared to a pre-delay knob. But if I never even thought about it, it's because the modulation settings are right on point! And this is something I've always found with Neunaber: the modulation is always very musical and all settings are usable. For example, this is my main issue with the Strymon Blue Sky - the modulation mode is fixed and is not at an optimal sweet spot for me. In the case of the Immerse Mk II, it is! Hope that helps :)
yeah, definitely does. thank you :)
Great comparison. What guitar are you using, please?
Hi , great video thank you. Can you dial a bit of the low out of the reverb on mk2?thanks
Wet reverb sounds more trebly on the mk2. But really really close
I'm confused -- isn't Kill Dry the same sound as 100% wet?
Awesome video, man! By the way, I'm thinking of buying the Immerse Reverberator MKII but I'm torn between this and Boss' RV-6. In terms of versatility for studio/home recording and live situations, which is better to invest on?
Keep up the awesome work, Mr. Michaud!
I personally prefer the Neunaber, which sounds a bit ''deeper'' and has a few easier functions to access like kill-dry to play 100% wet reverbs. But honestly, you can't go wrong with either of those!
@@AntoineMichaudGuitar Thanks, man! I'm listening to both this video and the video you made for Boss RV6. Side by side comparison.
What reverb do you currently have on your board and why? Tried the meris mercury 7?
Listened to the demos!!...that pedal is freaky!!...hi!...hi!...spooky stuff, etc...
Beautiful very very slight differences Only Mine ute.. Battle of the sounds I'm going to purchase I've always been a fan of the reverb my favourite.. 🎶🎶🎶🎶
Immerse is great but Im still going to try and get Big Sky because it has banks. That saves me time and trouble since i wont have to be bending to change anything. What do you think?
Both pedals are incredible, so if you have the budget, go for the Big Sky, it's amazing!
@@AntoineMichaudGuitar thats great! Thank you!
How does it compare to a bluesky? Im saving up for a reverb pedal and im currently leaning on neunaber. Thanks!
I like the Immerse Mk II more than the Blue Sky. The modulation is more musical, there's something magic about the algorithms of the reverbs on the Immerse and it has more modes. It feels deeper also. The Blue Sky is also incredibly good, but I think that you are getting more from the Immerse Mk II.
Antoine Michaud i hope we’ll see a video comparison between the two (or with other reverb pedals at the same price point). Otherwise, thanks for this video! Subscribed!
How did you dial in that infinite sustain so it could work with the pedal turned off? Did you just flip the "trails" switch? That was honestly such a cool feature.
Yes, it's the trails switch!
This pedal should be in stereo? Or can be mono??
cool video, but I'm definitely keeping my Mk I :)
Can the Immerse 1 do the effect at 9:17 - time down to zero killing the reverb?
J Rose no. Mkii is the only one with the sustain option as stated in the video.
Me Too!
This sounds really good, would this do good for metal solos or is this more for clean stuff? I think it would but just asking.
I would put a lot less for metal solos. I think delay would be better to thicken up metal solos!
I have this pedal and it's awesome for melodic metal.
Killer demo thanks dude. Gotta get the
Mk ll. I like the darker deeper tones + the 100% wet. Personally do you prefer the Mkll or Big Sky best?
I think the comparison is a bit unfair. Different price points, different functions (huge preset selection with the Big Sky, cab filter, midi, etc), different reverb types for the less common ones... but those are now my top-2 reverb pedals for ambient, for sure!
@@AntoineMichaudGuitar Tried the Meris Mercury7?
but the mk1 had kill dry switch ,which maked 100% wet signal,I don't understand what mki is missing with that on mkii
you can have 100% wet on mk.I with the kill dry switch too. but yes, the mix feature is more handy even I do not miss it on mk.I
Nice! Why don’t use any shorter decay times? Is it possible?
Totally possible. I just like more :-)
Can it sound dark actually ?
planning to buy a new reverb pedal. i was looking for a used one. may i ask you which do you prefer a bluesky or this immerse Mk1? thx. btw comparison. :)
I would choose the Immerse (mk1 or mk2) before the Blue Sky! But on the used market you can find more Blue Sky pedals than Immerse, I think, though!
Antoine Michaud whoa exactly i am going to buy today. thx for the inputs. i am going to pick up today a immerse mk1, yup in my country. bluesky got more seller than immerse in used market. thx again.
I prefer the sound of the MKI as it sounds more like a guitar pedal. To me, the MKII's reverbs sound great but not exactly fitting for a guitar, at the settings used here. Thanks for the vid.
wow i agree.
Excelente pedal
So since the original doesn’t have a pre-delay does that mean it’s automatically off on the original?
I think pre-delay is preset at the optimal setting for each algorithm by neunaber in mk1.
When you did a demo of the original Immerse vs the Wet pedal you demonstrated how the original could do a 100% wet mix. You were clearly playing without any dry signal. But in this video you're saying that's only possible with the MK2. Was that a feature only in early original models?
With the original Immerse, you could have a 100% wet mix only with the ''kill-dry'' switch. So it was less gradual... with the mix knob you could either have, let's say 80% wet at max or flip the kill-dry switch. With the Immerse Mk II, the mix knob can go anywhere between 1-100% wet with the mix knob only. I think it is more flexible and convenient then having to flip a switch each time you want a 100% wet mix and you can cover a wider range with the mix knob.
Loves both. How you record this?
Thank you!
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Kill dry is your 100% wet on mk1 if it is so necessary
Beautiful. Just getting into ambient guitar...any suggestion for learning to play this style?
Subscribe to my channel and stick around :-) watch my backlog of videos. And go sign up for my free mini course 'A Beginner's Guide To Ambient Guitar': www.ambientguitaracademy.com/ambient-beginners-course
@@AntoineMichaudGuitar For sure. Wish you had some music on Amazon Music. Any suggestions for music to listen to? (you play so well Antoine...I'm a fan)
I have the mark one and love it but i never use shimmer and i like the graphics better on mark 2. Looks much clearer. I want to upgrade but its too expensive to justify
Don't buy Into that bulshit marketing mk2 thing. I have the mk1 and it's great reverb. Couldn't care less about mk2. I'm happy with what I have. I'm not gonna support that crazy industry. They want you to keep you all the time in chase for "something" better. Nope. I'm fine with what I have. Will focus my energy on making music, not what new pedal has come out and go rush and buy it. Pass that period. Now am satisfied with what I have. Make music and don't bother filling up someone else's s wallet.
Just got mark 2 today
Do both pedals have the freeze option?
What do you think of the rv6 Antoine? Assuming you’ve tried one.
Haven't tried it yet.
Funny how everyone asks about how this compares with the bluesky when the Empress Reverb is such a great alternative to both. It even has 2 different pads to work with line level instruments, looper and more
Weeeey estaba esperando este video
Hey what brand of cables are you using?
George L's
100% Wet is in fact just a matter of perspective
I like the wet one the MKI
Really nice comparison video. It is the first too :D Thank you Antoine!
So guys, I have a question. Tomorrow I receive the MKI Immerse from Thomann. Should I return it and get the MKII or keep the MKI?
Immerse Mk II is only on pre-orders right now, so you really have to tell yourself: ''are the new features worth some more months of waiting time''?
Salut! Merci pour l'essai.Au bout de l'exercice chez Moog a MTL,je suis sorti avec une Ventris.Elles sont toutes de tres haute qualité ces reverb.
Immerse or Immerse MKII?
Hey Merde :/ Maintenant j’ai aucune idée quel acheter 😂 merci pour la demo 🤘
héhé ;)
MKII sounds a little synthetic to me. V1 sounds more transparent and authentic.
Immerse Mk II vs Wet Stereo? :o
Would you want to see a comparison video of those 2 also?
Antoine Michaud Yes please :D
Antoine Michaud yes! I am actually stuck deciding between those two right now. Itd be my first pedal, how big a loss is it to not have saveable presets?
@@AntoineMichaudGuitar Yes sir !
I did it! ----> th-cam.com/video/DQR6o0x45sQ/w-d-xo.html
As the great Buzz Lightyear once said...To infinity! And Beyond!
6:59 & 8:00 for comparison
You forgot the comparison of the Detune & Delay modes.
The original is great but the MKII is worth the extra price to me. I also noticed the MKII doesn't come up on the used market very often. That tells me people are keeping them when they get them.
I think the first one sounds better, so I’m glad people have the Mk1’s up for sale more often! I feel like people have been selling them since the second one came out, probably to upgrade.
True even today- on GC Used tonight, only 1 MKII available $199. Plenty of originals available.
The secondary market is hardly flooded with EITHER model. They're a good pedal. I'm seeing even numbers for sale on both models at the moment.
Hi... I am from India.... From where can I get this padel??
Google
AM i weird that I think the original sounds better?
The original does sound better. I bought a new one and sold it already.
How does the plate reverb compare to the Talisman’s?
while I personally can't speak to your weirdness, I couldn't help but think, " Now may be a good time to snatch up a mk1 on Reverb if there is a big enough savings." I think the mkiii has some cool new features, but these both are more alike than they are different, and both very useable.
Mk ii sound like have a boost
Fantastic pedal. Know who wants to send me one?
I want... But I don't have money, sorry
Damn boy your talking made me put it in my cart before you played the 1st note!
Edit: now that I heard it I'm wet...... 😩
While you're there, you can put some new pants in your cart too ;-) seriously, you'll love the pedal, have fun!
@@AntoineMichaudGuitar lol, 🕺🤙 subscribed!
Better than bigsky??
ofcourse no,there is nothing the MK2 can do,that the bigsky can't
This is like Jeff Buckley in a box
new neighbor vs old neighbor
Does anyone actually like "shimmer" reverbs?
I only like MXR's shimmer...
Yeah but mostly as modulation rather than reverb
I really like the one on the Walrus Fathom. You can have upper & lower octaves and blend them any way you want. I usually use mostly lower octave with just a touch of upper.
Nice video. Demonstration well done. But this effect is useless for my style.
having to replace the foot switch on my original. ut I'm just going to sell it and get another brand. hardly used the thing before it broke. if a company cannot source a decent switch for a USD$300+ pedal, i'm moving on. there are way too many pedal makers out there who get it right, to have to put up w/ this type of nonsense. this kind of thing happens to "not ready for prime time" players. when i get bit by a cheesy not built well piece of gear, i don't go back and see if it'll happen again!
MkⅡ👍good ⤴️
all the sounds looks like the same
Prefer mk1
The MKII doesn’t sound as good because it’s first in the chain being re colored by the other pedal
It’s a German name and would be pronounced ‘noy-nahber’
Not if it's american. You don't pronounce German names in a German way if they are foreign. For instance: Émile Durkheim.