Mick Thomson Signature Fishman Fluence Pickups
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
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Intro/About the Mick Thompson Pickups and Fishman Fluence 0:00
In Mix: 11:08
Out of Mix High Gain: 13:44
Out of Mix Mid Gain: 16:33
Out of Mix Clean: 17:46
Final Thoughts/Outro: 19:02
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Pickups so nice you intro'd them twice!
lol fix
These pickups must have a 7-string model. Mick plays in drop-B and drop-A and Seymour Duncan had 7-string models for his pickups. I love my modern hubs.
I had Fishman Moderns in my Epiphone Prophecy Extura and swapped those for Jim Roots EMG and that was a massive improvement. Fishman moderns just sounded wimpy with a mid spike thing I couldn’t get rid of. I might try these in my BC Rich Warlock or maybe in my Schecter 7 string if they make them down the road.
You video really makes them sound good.
You're probably digging the extra low-end you get from the root set then, these are tighter than that, however there is a jumper on the bridge pickup that adds more low-end to the pickups. Personally, with an active, I have been going towards wanting something tighter, that isn't like a passive, which is why I do dig my modern in my Star destroyer and gel really well with these.
The way you said The Mick Thomson pickup in the intro made it sound like a mcdonalds wrap
Thanks, this comment added a lot.
@@MetalHeadProductions .....ok...
@@DadOnBass I mean, come on, man, that comment warranted some sarcasm
C'mon boys, stop fighting and play nice :P
@@MetalHeadProductions Oh, I kinda thought you were just being an asshole. lol
Great tone, sounds very aggresive 🤘🤘
I liked his blackouts better from what I can hear. I love his Blackouts I use those and Fishman Fluence mostly. The Blackouts sound more natural to me and have a tight but heavy thump chunky low end. I definitely agree about the open core classic neck I have one in a Jackson modern 7HT and it is so fluid and smooth.
I personally like these better than the blackouts. These are more dynamic for sure, less compressed, less output for sure so it's not as crazy hot and it doesn't have absolute massive low-end, but you can increase the lowend with the jumper. I liked his blackouts but they were always too much and I ended up fighting with them, way prefer these myself, but that's just preference.
Eq and pickup height with the blackouts they are very sensitive to those changes my EMTY I lower the height a bit for better sound dropA is amazing
Very interested in trying these. Ive been using the Seymour Emtys in my guitars for years- the output and clarity and input compression is just great. Their weakness/ strength is that output. No clean sounds achievable with them. It was an eye opener when you got to the clean sounds- very useable. 3 modes means more versatility. Ill definitely have to get one and A/B it against the Emty
Bro just invest in a good EQ pedal. Problem solved.
pretty sure I heard "McTompson" at the beginning - I can't unhear it now
thanks for the vid
Might have said it fast, but Mick and mc basically sound the same and who knows if my brain added the p while saying Thomson, haha
@@MetalHeadProductions lol, all good - to be fair, I mistyped what I was trying to say - oh well. all fun - pickups sounds pretty good, better than I expected, thanks for digging deep into them (looking to swap out the Keith Merrow sigs in my KM7 MKIII artist - Lundgren M7, nazgul/sentient, Jupiter rails are on the list
@@LeeJoRo the m7 is super killer, love mine and my Keith set, got those both in two different guitars. Wanted to get the 6 string Jupiter but it's too wide for my guitars to direct mount, so oh well, haha
@@MetalHeadProductions if I had another mid priced guitar worth upgrading, I would put some M7's in it... or get one of the new Keith Merrow signatures... but they're around £2000+
@@LeeJoRo I love my km schecter
Great demo. I think they sound great. Would love to see how they sound on the lead channel of the savage and if they are gunna do a 7 string set.
Sounds good man. Are they a solder install or plug and play like EMG?
Unfortunately their wiring is soldering and it's very complicated with all the voicings, haha. Only downside really.
I have never vibed with Fishman Fluence pickups. The frequencies combined with my amp settings just do not work for me. Their harmonics are the only plus I find. This is the first set that impressed me from limited demos and I’m game to try them. Not anything like the moderns or any other model. Bonus that they are Mick’s and gasing me up to buy another ESP to use them in.
Thank you for interesting video. What can you say about comparison of Fishman Fluence and Bare Knuckle Ragnarok (especially, their chugs)?
I mean the Ragnarok is going to have more low-end, it's a high output passive, won't be as clear as something like a fishman. Rags are cool though.
@@MetalHeadProductions thank you for your answer. I want to order a custom guitar and you really helped me to choose a pickups for it. Could you also tell your opinion about Mick's Fishmans in comparison with Moderns?
@@ruslan_kvtvnv little less output, doesn't have that midrange spike that some people love with the moderns and some people hate. Fuller low mids for palm mutes and you can add more low-end with the jumper on the bridge pickup.
The second voicing is a much lower output passive pickup not nearly as hot as the second voicing of the moderns.
I have the white Jackson mick thompson.Signature guitar with the Seymour.Duncan blackouts love those pickups? I've tried fishman fluence modern in the past and did not like them at all just my opinion
Fishmans can be so different and much more precise, and you really gotta tweak the amp to them, but I personally love them.
Do the two-pickup sets from Fishman include one ceramic and one alnico? I wasn’t quite able to determine from the website how the sets were configured. Thanks~
The bridge is ceramic and the neck is alnico V.
Good tone. As not recording professional I would say the end result is no different from EMG's.
Takes all flavors. I personally don't like using 81s. I end up fighting them, doesn't feel right and feel like it never hits the amp like I want. Definitely want my guitar to perform how I want when I'm playing and recording. Won't make the huge difference in the final sound though like a speaker or mic.
Does these sound like a cocked wah like the moderns? We’ll it sounded to me anyways
They don't have that more nasal midrange some people associate with the moderns, no.
Nice review. If there is something special about this set tone-wise, it does not come through. Was going to buy it, but have second thoughts now that I’ve seen the reviews and own a few fishmans already. How does it compare to kse set?
Well it is hard to tell how it compares to other sets without actually comparing them in the video, so that probably wouldn't come across. I like these way better than the kse set, which I didn't really care for personally. These are less compressed, have more low mid content so they sound fuller and chunkier while still remaining tight, I felt the kse set was way too tight for my taste. I wasn't in love with the V2 passive voicing of the kse, I think the V2 voicing of these is a really nice balance of medium, lower medium output, more midrange and just feels good to play in a way that just didn't click for me with the kse set.
@@MetalHeadProductions thank you!
I like my fishmans, but it's not that much of a big deal when using high gain
Less about getting more gain, more about how they perform with your gear, really.
These sound pretty good in your mix. Do they have at least the same level of clarity as Lundgren pickups?
Oh Fishmans are super clear, because of how they work and are voiced, these are probably some of the most precise and clear pickups on the market.
@@MetalHeadProductions What do you think of people saying they sound thin and weal? Doesn't sound like it this video, but I've played through a set myself.
@@MetalHeadProductions What do you think of people saying they sound thin and weal? Doesn't sound like it this video, but I've played through a set myself.
@@aaron9142 I think most people that say that are talking about the moderns or the kse sets, for example. These are tight for sure, tighter than passives, but still have that chunk on the low mid. The moderns are super tight which is why people say they're thin. Kinda just depends on what you want and what gear you're hitting really.
@MetalHeadProductions Makes sense. I think people just like to complain. lol
seems like they took the V2 of the moderns and tweaked them a bit to be the main voice. A lot more balanced in the mids than the v1 of the moderns imo.
Hmm, I don't really feel that way about it being closer to the V2 voice of the moderns but tweaked.
Ah yes it’s not the amp setting or speakers but the pickup we need right??? Yeah it’s fishman pickups so you don’t need signature ones as they are built to be flexible. I know as all my guitars have them.
Haha, oh boy, little bit of info and people run with it. Absolutely speakers, mix placement and amps are going to make the biggest difference. 100% no question. Pickups do matter though, how you hit your gear, how they feel to play, the options they provide.
It's like an artist with different brushes or a builder with different tools. You might not know what they used in the end product, but it certainly matters to the person crafting it. These are a lot different than my Fishman moderns and the other Fishmans I've used and owned over the years so I'm happy to have and use these. If you'd be fine with saying a set of moderns, that's great, but these are very different from those.
I have regular Fishman Fluence Modern pickups on my lower tuned 8-string guitar, and I have to say, while I do like them, I'm not too excited about their sound (I play high gain extreme metal and some mid to low gain tunes). My Fishmans are good and clean, but to my taste they sound a bit artificial, a bit "digital", so to speak, not organic. Too compressed and too midrange-y as well, kind of fat-free. The bridge pickup is harsh and thin, there's no good middle ground between too harsh or to boomy - it's either this or that depending on the "voicing" mode switch. These pickups are not my favorite. I think they are overhyped. I prefer EMG X or even cheap Duncan Designed Blackouts - they are clean, transparent, noiseless, full range and with lots of power.
However, the bass guitar version - Fishman Fluence Bass Soapbar pickups - are thick and great IMO.
Hey to each their own, I would say you have to tune the gear a bit to the pickups. I personally love my moderns, and gotta say they're definitely not over compressed and are way less compressed than EMGs or blackouts. I think what throws people off so much is with traditional pickups you're kind getting everything, good and bad, hitting the amp, and with the Fishmans, which are all analog, they're able to carve out a lot of what you don't want leaving you with what is "ideal." But if that version of what's ideal isn't working for you, no worries.
I definitely don't think they're overhyped, I've owned a lot of different Fishmans over the years and they're the most consistent pickups money can buy, all the voicing options mean every pickup is three in one, and for actives, things like these mock Thompson's, the moderns and some of their other sets are my hands down favorites.
If you get results you like better with something else then more power to you, that's what's great about all the variety on the market.
@@MetalHeadProductions Sure, all art things are generally a matter of taste. I mean Fishmans are nice and solid, and I get why many people like them (I moderately like their guitar pickups too, and love their bass pickups). They also match the current trend in sound production (in particular, having low-cut mid-focused rhythm guitars in the mix). It's just my personal preference to have a bit different sonic signature and a full uncut range from fat lows to biting highs, while keeping transparency and power. I also respect Fishman's technical innovation, which is important for the industry - kudos to them. Thanks for the review!
@@greymatter800 absolutely, I have tons of different pickups to have all kinds of different tools to work with and you don't dig them personally that's all good, man. I don't personally gel with certain pickups and gear either, so no worries, we have all these options anyways.
I have them now for a couple weeks, but the bass boost is just stupid, all the you tubers that test them have the same problem, why a voicing for that expensive set if there is no difference, you must have ears of an elephant to hear the difference
I haven't tried the bass boost jumper yet so I can't say, but it might be a pretty small difference that might be more of a feel thing. Idk, haven't tried it yet.
@@MetalHeadProductions did you noticed that the passive voicing is totally different then the normal modern set? When you play clean on passive it sounds more like a single coil for me,.thin and sharper then a modern set
@@Hellhammer1980 theres a single coil voicing and a passive voicing. the passive voicing is way lower output on these than the moderns, but its definitely not thin or like a single coil. I think you might be playing on the single coil voicing and not realizing it.