@@AntaresSQ01 but you dont really see videos of them being tuned is the point i think...personally i enjoy this bike before but way more after this tune
@@carolinayamadawg8706 What mods have you done to it besides the exhaust? i have the same year model with a Black widow exhaust and a DNA air filter, also PAIR valve delete. Mine is probably running just as lean as this, but I put tuning off quite a bit because I was seeing all these other bikes getting tuned and even with full exhausts and airbox mods they are only SLIGHTLY lean, but this was CRAZY lean
@@carolinayamadawg8706 You see mine is not tuned and when i tried to see how it reacts to the inlet tube removal it ran like crap, it had this massive jerk just after getting off the line and then it was gutless mid range, good pull 7000-10000rpm but overall top speed was lower than before.
This midrange gains would be very noticeable on this bike. Everyone looks at peak gains but I don't spend my time at the rev limiter in daily riding and those low/mid gains would make this much more useable.
You're right. Soon as you hit the gas in any gear you can tell immediately it's on point! Especially low & mid range. This bike shines down low anyway with the parallel twin, low & mid TQ is impressive. I can tell it has more up top too, its open, quicker, more air(from mods) & fuel, & more timing but down low is most noticeable. Runs better thru the whole band now. It was worth the money for sure!!
@@DjMysticalone yup mine has a bcm air filter and delkavic exhaust baffle in , pair valve delete so if your set up is similar the map he made for mine should work great for yours
Perfect, I have a 2011 too and mine probably runs like this lol, btw low down that 3-5k range is factory restriction due to dumb ass emmissions, you can REALLY feel it when you get on it below 5k it's like the bike goes like "hoooldd on i just need to get to 5000 rpm.... Okay there were go, LETS GO"
this is my bike in the vid ..the diffrence is extremly noticable ...to compliment the tune i installed a new vortex 2 tooth up rear sprocket and hot damn this bike pulls hard now
I think Kawasaki have always made incredible engines, they probably don’t make the most beautiful sounds ( always thought Kawa engines sounds like a farms tractors with the ke-kling- klong-klang) especially at idled , but damn that they’re strong, I remember with a ZX-7 1993 I’ve beat the hell out of this thing, pulling wheely’s and never letting this poor engine breath, even swap it in a 91 model to do a endurance race of 2 hours, and re-swapping it into his home 93, to continued beating it, it finally Rest In Peace after pulling roll-on race all night one day, but not before letting me reach home ( never thought I would make it) but I’ve roll in the service lane the throttle pins down going about 40 km/h and the sound that was coming out of this was .... kind of a infinite drums solo, but it did bring me back home, and as soon as I flip the off switch, it never even tried to get back alive again. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
The smaller bikes are nice because the power is more accessible at road legal speeds. The bigger bikes can often break the speed limit in first. The midrange gains will be great for general ridability. It should be much nicer.
Definitely not a custom map. And that is why preset maps are rubbish. The only way is to send your bike in, get a custom map on the pc5 and flash the ecu. I completely removed the secondary butterflies on my er6, did all the usual things like pair valves, inlet tubes, dna airfilter, removed 1 layer of gasket to increase compression, and got a custom map with the straight Arrow headers and Leo Vince GP style (the one with the curved mid pipe) and got 76rwhp. This increase mostly comes from the header/muffler combo and its the next best thing besides the Arata which is discontinued and the elusive full Arrow system used in the TT.
I bought a 2018 ninja 650 back in 2018 and will be picking up a 2023 KRT version , tomorrow. Will send the ECU to see how much more top end i get on the 2023. My 2017 V Max went from 146 Mph to 166+ Mph after the flash.
Can you not do all that through the pc5? Basically that's why people buy them to avoid the Hassel of shipping the brains out. Auto tune fuel adjustment can all be done with the pc5 no?
i pulled them out before my bike was dynoed, bcm filter , inlet tubes removed , pair valve delete and slip on 14 inch delcavic exhaustwith db killer still in
@@carolinayamadawg8706 thank you! I took mine out but will need to put them back in if I get a tune. Very nice! Much faster I bet 😵 I almost pulled the trigger on a 2015 CBR1000RR a few years ago, but the insurance was too high.
first!! love the videos!!. question: what's the difference between dyne tuning on the power commander 5 VS the ECU? I have a Busa Dyno tuned on the Power commander 5 but don't know what its in comparison to having it Dynoed on the ECU? all the talk of having it dyne tuned on the ECU and customers taking there power commander back makes me feel like i wasted money and makes me wander why even more why my tuner didn't tell me about the option of the ECU Dyno tune
in my opinion pcv is a waste of money ..ecu tune he can do everything pcv can plus remove all the restrictions ecu flash is more efficent , more results and 1 less component to fail ..i only have pcv cause mywife bought it as a gift thats why in vid i have that and reflash
@@TeamMooreMafia I have a 2021 ex650 all stock and can confirm: super restrictive It’s almost insulting. I need to send you the entire bike and have it flashed and a full exhaust installed. I’m in the DC area, if I were to schedule everything how long would I need to stay in town? Thanks for sharing! Great video.
Just a 155cc bike... 14 bhp.. I need more initial.. One of my frnd suggested k&n air filter and iridium spark plugs..! Will it help me... Do u have any suggestions.. Cant remap the ecu... Its not practical.... Bike 100% stock..
So i have a 2022 ninja 650 abs and i wana exuast swap it and i wana get my ecu flashed also. But is it possible to have the popping modification also with that bike
Heat and dryness are both enemies of internal combustion engines. Lean produces both conditions. While the EPA might be happy, engines are not. Stock un-flashed bikes always run the temp gauges high, especially poking in traffic or low speed running around. It's lean conditions that does that.
Hello sir I have a 2021 ninja 650 and I am planning to install a custom made full system exhaust on it but I live in India so I can't send you the ecu ...can you somehow help me in what can I do to flash my bike
@@carolinayamadawg8706 WELLLL she will be like a new bike after getting the MooreMafia treatment buddy , you'd have noticed the difference on pickup as soon as you hot the gas 😁👍
@@carolinayamadawg8706 so Chris has another happy customer, Glad to hear it maybe you'll enjoy her now that you are riding the bike you *thought* you had bought 😁 Ps they *Road Race* those bikes, they have a class of their own at the IOM they really are great bikes when they are set up. Happy riding buddy 👍😁👍
Chris, i got a quick question.. My 150cc has a carburetor and when i rev it up to about 3000rpm it stays there for a little while then drops slowly.. What can this be?
I have a 2021 ninja 650. Its my first bike and i have had it for about 7 months now. I been thinking of trading it in for something more powerful like a zx-6r since I find it to be a waste of time to tune the bike or flash the ECU but I guess seeing the numbers maybe it wouldnt be that much of a waste? Does anyone know if there is a speed limiter set from the factory that is erased after the ECU Flash?
@@kuron252 I know the feelings because the same thing happend to me but truthfully, I have no regrets. The 636 is a animal. Its a night and day difference. I took the advice of others and didnt waste money by adding things to the 650
I have this bike....bought her after taking a 5+ year vacation from riding due to other hobbies....gorgeous light bike but omg that nutless gutless shit sucking twin and her wooden pogo stick of a suspension.....went from 96vfr to 96 goz1100....to......eeehhh
Love how you're doing different bikes not just litre and 600 supersports keep up the good work. 👍
Thank you!
i love the odd ball bikes. All the flagship bikes have been done a million times. Cool to see some different stuff.
"odd ball bikes" Literally the most sold bike out of the current Kawasaki lineup
@@AntaresSQ01 but you dont really see videos of them being tuned is the point i think...personally i enjoy this bike before but way more after this tune
@@carolinayamadawg8706 What mods have you done to it besides the exhaust? i have the same year model with a Black widow exhaust and a DNA air filter, also PAIR valve delete. Mine is probably running just as lean as this, but I put tuning off quite a bit because I was seeing all these other bikes getting tuned and even with full exhausts and airbox mods they are only SLIGHTLY lean, but this was CRAZY lean
@@AntaresSQ01 bmc filter, airbox inlet rubber tubes removed, pair valve delete, delkavic sl 10 14inch slip on , power comander v , speedo healer , vortex 2 teeth up rear sprocket
@@carolinayamadawg8706 You see mine is not tuned and when i tried to see how it reacts to the inlet tube removal it ran like crap, it had this massive jerk just after getting off the line and then it was gutless mid range, good pull 7000-10000rpm but overall top speed was lower than before.
It’d be cool if you added a section at the end where customers come back with their testimonials of how much better their bikes are!
im the customer ..it rides so much better i also added a 2 tooth up sprocket in rear it pulls hard as fck now for a 650
@@carolinayamadawg8706 wow just realized he is less than two hours from my house! 👍💥💨
Top speed for the 650 after all this
This midrange gains would be very noticeable on this bike. Everyone looks at peak gains but I don't spend my time at the rev limiter in daily riding and those low/mid gains would make this much more useable.
it was very noticable on the way home lol
You're right. Soon as you hit the gas in any gear you can tell immediately it's on point! Especially low & mid range. This bike shines down low anyway with the parallel twin, low & mid TQ is impressive. I can tell it has more up top too, its open, quicker, more air(from mods) & fuel, & more timing but down low is most noticeable. Runs better thru the whole band now. It was worth the money for sure!!
for all wondering bike pulls hard now chris did a great job on it
i have the same bike, this is awesome. its a 2011 right?
@@DjMysticalone correct
@@DjMysticalone very noticable diffrence
@@carolinayamadawg8706 fucking awesome thank you for verifying that. that means hes got a map setup for that bike.
@@DjMysticalone yup mine has a bcm air filter and delkavic exhaust baffle in , pair valve delete so if your set up is similar the map he made for mine should work great for yours
Perfect, I have a 2011 too and mine probably runs like this lol, btw low down that 3-5k range is factory restriction due to dumb ass emmissions, you can REALLY feel it when you get on it below 5k it's like the bike goes like "hoooldd on i just need to get to 5000 rpm.... Okay there were go, LETS GO"
this is my bike in the vid ..the diffrence is extremly noticable ...to compliment the tune i installed a new vortex 2 tooth up rear sprocket and hot damn this bike pulls hard now
“We’re gonna do the baseline pull riiiiight now”
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I think Kawasaki have always made incredible engines, they probably don’t make the most beautiful sounds ( always thought Kawa engines sounds like a farms tractors with the ke-kling- klong-klang) especially at idled , but damn that they’re strong, I remember with a ZX-7 1993 I’ve beat the hell out of this thing, pulling wheely’s and never letting this poor engine breath, even swap it in a 91 model to do a endurance race of 2 hours, and re-swapping it into his home 93, to continued beating it, it finally Rest In Peace after pulling roll-on race all night one day, but not before letting me reach home ( never thought I would make it) but I’ve roll in the service lane the throttle pins down going about 40 km/h and the sound that was coming out of this was .... kind of a infinite drums solo, but it did bring me back home, and as soon as I flip the off switch, it never even tried to get back alive again. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Send this man your ecu. The difference is incredible.
Is that all you have to do? Or do I need to buy a power commander and stuff like that? I just want a better than stock tune, nothing crazy
the power comander wasnt needed but since my wife surprise bought it for me i installed it anyways
How much for the eco flash?
@@zacharydance7822 I'm pretty sure it's about *$210* that's the kind of figure Chris quotes on the other videos 👍
The smaller bikes are nice because the power is more accessible at road legal speeds. The bigger bikes can often break the speed limit in first. The midrange gains will be great for general ridability. It should be much nicer.
Dang, I wish you were closer to me. Id send my ninja 650 with a custom exhaust in for a proper tune with you in a heartbeat.
Congratulations on your 40K
I just bought a 2021 ninja 650 three weeks ago just ordered a yoshimura this ecu flash is next ill be calling you guys soon
Definitely not a custom map. And that is why preset maps are rubbish. The only way is to send your bike in, get a custom map on the pc5 and flash the ecu. I completely removed the secondary butterflies on my er6, did all the usual things like pair valves, inlet tubes, dna airfilter, removed 1 layer of gasket to increase compression, and got a custom map with the straight Arrow headers and Leo Vince GP style (the one with the curved mid pipe) and got 76rwhp. This increase mostly comes from the header/muffler combo and its the next best thing besides the Arata which is discontinued and the elusive full Arrow system used in the TT.
I'd like to see what you could do with a Z400.
thanks so much for making this video on the same bike that i have
Can’t wait to buy my m4 shorty slip on and mjs mid pipe to send you my ECU for my 2011 gsxr 750
I bought a 2018 ninja 650 back in 2018 and will be picking up a 2023 KRT version , tomorrow.
Will send the ECU to see how much more top end i get on the 2023.
My 2017 V Max went from 146 Mph to 166+ Mph after the flash.
How’s the top speed lookin?
@@8motherslover I don't know, yet. Ecu may be back this week, but I also have to put some miles on the new bike. The 2018 got 127 Mph a few years ago.
I have 2017 model and i want to do the same. Thanks for the video man 👍🏾
Yeah I got a 22 650bwith the delkevic exhaust and man it's lean as hell.
That guy is going to think you swapped bikes and gave him back a RACE BIKE 😆 😂 🤣
it is a completely different bike now lol ride home was night and day well worth the cost
@@carolinayamadawg8706 how much does that usually run
@@dominiquedinkins3686 cant remember contact chris moore think i paid 500 for reflash and custom dyno tune sesion
40.5k now. Good job
Good mpg. 👍
go go gooooo!!! the best!!! the one!!!
hello very good job, what is the maximum speed of the ninja 650 ecuflash
Been wondering this too
Man rgs video....man I'm a sleep😴😴😴 all I hear is crickets
Rickey got dat zx10 flying....
Kawasaki POWER
Chris can you explain the decel process you use immediately after making a pull? Is there an exact purpose for it or just habit? Thanks for the reply!
so does this tune work with different exhaust is the question that comes to mind
It does, it's not going to be as perfect as Dyno tuning but it's well worth it if you're just looking for a flash.
Chris, is there any reason to have the Power Commander? Your ECU flashes seem to make it obsolete(?).
Can you not do all that through the pc5? Basically that's why people buy them to avoid the Hassel of shipping the brains out.
Auto tune fuel adjustment can all be done with the pc5 no?
To achieve these results you need both ecu flash and power commander?
Very educational, thank you sir
I want to see a Z800!!
"Massive gains" euphemism for "massive factory restrictions."
Moore Mafia, this bike also has a restriction at the air box. You have to pull out the inlet tubes. Was this done without the tubes?
i pulled them out before my bike was dynoed, bcm filter , inlet tubes removed , pair valve delete and slip on 14 inch delcavic exhaustwith db killer still in
@@carolinayamadawg8706 did you leave the secondary throttle plates in as well?
@@ryanwittmann6368 throttle plates were left stock
was a seriously fun and pretty quick bike but i sold it in december ..i have a r1 now also had it tuned by chris moore
@@carolinayamadawg8706 thank you! I took mine out but will need to put them back in if I get a tune. Very nice! Much faster I bet 😵 I almost pulled the trigger on a 2015 CBR1000RR a few years ago, but the insurance was too high.
first!! love the videos!!.
question: what's the difference between dyne tuning on the power commander 5 VS the ECU? I have a Busa Dyno tuned on the Power commander 5 but don't know what its in comparison to having it Dynoed on the ECU? all the talk of having it dyne tuned on the ECU and customers taking there power commander back makes me feel like i wasted money and makes me wander why even more why my tuner didn't tell me about the option of the ECU Dyno tune
in my opinion pcv is a waste of money ..ecu tune he can do everything pcv can plus remove all the restrictions ecu flash is more efficent , more results and 1 less component to fail ..i only have pcv cause mywife bought it as a gift thats why in vid i have that and reflash
suprised nobody said this yet,but parallel twins lowkey sound like subaru.
When are we gonna see a Ricky G response video? 😂
he put out a video not 2 long ago.
@@djwilliams9842 Ricky just put one out yesterday.
Crud I wonder what the improvement would be with bone stock intake and pipe?
I would imagine the stock exhaust is super restrictive.
@@TeamMooreMafia I have a 2021 ex650 all stock and can confirm: super restrictive
It’s almost insulting. I need to send you the entire bike and have it flashed and a full exhaust installed. I’m in the DC area, if I were to schedule everything how long would I need to stay in town?
Thanks for sharing! Great video.
Just a 155cc bike... 14 bhp..
I need more initial.. One of my frnd suggested k&n air filter and iridium spark plugs..! Will it help me... Do u have any suggestions.. Cant remap the ecu... Its not practical....
Bike 100% stock..
What exhaust was on this bike ? Looks like Delkevic SL10 (14” oval slip on) maybe with the baffle removed ?
Can you do the same thing to a 2023 Kawasaki Vulcan 650s I'm just curious it's supposed to be essentially the same engine I think
We can. Check out all the bikes we can do here....
Www.MooreMafia.com/ecu-flashing-service
If I have a 13 ninja 650 would I need to buy a power commander before being able to have it tuned?
So i have a 2022 ninja 650 abs and i wana exuast swap it and i wana get my ecu flashed also. But is it possible to have the popping modification also with that bike
Why leave the power commander connected chris you had an other bike a while back where you removed it completely and the customer could sell it 🤔
How likely is engine damage running that lean?
Heat and dryness are both enemies of internal combustion engines. Lean produces both conditions. While the EPA might be happy, engines are not. Stock un-flashed bikes always run the temp gauges high, especially poking in traffic or low speed running around. It's lean conditions that does that.
Torque numbers ? Those engines strong point is the torque
Have you done a cbr 900rr 98 model
What's the new top speed
Where you at?
What're the odds that you can flash a 2015 CBR650F?
I was told on my 2020 ninja 650 I don't need a power commander is that true he said he can do it all thru his computer pretty much so my Q is it true
No power commander needed.
please have a shop in philippines
Hello sir I have a 2021 ninja 650 and I am planning to install a custom made full system exhaust on it but I live in India so I can't send you the ecu ...can you somehow help me in what can I do to flash my bike
We can do remote tuning if you have Woolich Racing equipment on your end.
Also on a more serious note , who did the tune on the Power Commander *Stevie Wonder* 🤭
dyno jet them selves did lol
it was a map they recomended but tbh it was worse than what you saw chris set it back to zero map before filming that day on my 650
@@carolinayamadawg8706 WELLLL she will be like a new bike after getting the MooreMafia treatment buddy , you'd have noticed the difference on pickup as soon as you hot the gas 😁👍
@@chicblair oh yeah noticed on my way home big diffrence
@@carolinayamadawg8706 so Chris has another happy customer, Glad to hear it maybe you'll enjoy her now that you are riding the bike you *thought* you had bought 😁 Ps they *Road Race* those bikes, they have a class of their own at the IOM they really are great bikes when they are set up. Happy riding buddy 👍😁👍
Removing the stock exhaust lost all back pressure. Nice to see different bikes!
Ane thats why the Arata and the full system Arrow used in the TT are the only perfect systems for the ER6.
i still have db killer in its still quite restrictive , but i hate the way stock exhaust sounds all in all bike runs perfect now
does an ecu flash take care of the afr being lean? or do you still need your oower commander?
Yes sir. No power commander needed!
@@TeamMooreMafia i have a 2020 650 with a PC6 and had a custom tune made by blrtuning. Would I gain more hp if I got the ecu flashed as well?
KTM Superduke?
Is the ECU located in the same spot for the 2021 models? Going to get a new 2021 650 and would definitely like to get an ECU flash.
I just got a 2021 650 I’m trying to figure out the same info
Probably under the tank like the 2017-2019s
I have a 2016 and it's under the tank for me as well
Chris, i got a quick question.. My 150cc has a carburetor and when i rev it up to about 3000rpm it stays there for a little while then drops slowly.. What can this be?
Vacuum leak
@@TeamMooreMafia thank you! I'll have it checked out 👌
And melting pistons!!
I have a 2021 ninja 650. Its my first bike and i have had it for about 7 months now. I been thinking of trading it in for something more powerful like a zx-6r since I find it to be a waste of time to tune the bike or flash the ECU but I guess seeing the numbers maybe it wouldnt be that much of a waste? Does anyone know if there is a speed limiter set from the factory that is erased after the ECU Flash?
Did you get the ecu flashed have the same bike was wondering the difference
@@kuron252 I ended up getting the 636
@@DonnieRayyy I was thinking of doing the same thing I just got the bike and will be losing out on 3k
@@kuron252 I know the feelings because the same thing happend to me but truthfully, I have no regrets. The 636 is a animal. Its a night and day difference. I took the advice of others and didnt waste money by adding things to the 650
@@DonnieRayyy can a beginner learn on 636? or should they get 650
I have this bike....bought her after taking a 5+ year vacation from riding due to other hobbies....gorgeous light bike but omg that nutless gutless shit sucking twin and her wooden pogo stick of a suspension.....went from 96vfr to 96 goz1100....to......eeehhh
I have a 95 600 ninja can u help me
I do not go back that old. Sorry
Well i guess i will sale and get new one
@@danieltoler945 that's a carb bike lol
Anjay
Is it ok for the engine as it is a parallel twin?
yup
NO TORQUE NUMBERS!!🤷