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I like to personally think Shenron is refuses to grant an extra wish to the Demons in Daima because the last time he granted wishes to a demon he got killed.
I want to see an extreme counterpoint to Super Shenron at some point. A really tiny worm-sized Dragon who can only grant simple wishes, like finding your lost keys.
What if a dragon like that came from an extremely inexperienced Namekian, like a baby or young child? Like they have that instinct to create dragonballs super early, so they made this super simple dragon.
Kinda strange how they say it was the wish to revive King Piccolo's victims that brought forth Eis, when Xenoverse claims that it was the wish to erase the memories of Buu's rampage from the people of Earth.
my guess on why nova shenron was made by the only evil wish is that the shadow dragons are created via negative energy, the negative version of evil is good, thus nova being brought forth from king picolos wish makes sense
There’s actually 1 1/2 more sets of Shadow Dragons! No one ever seems to bring them up since even by Heroes standards they’re obscure. They come from DBH and World Mission There are the Super Shadow Dragons, which are just their super powered states. Then there are the *Namekian* Shadow Dragons. Which are spawned from the Namekian dragon balls but share the same appearance as the normal ones.
I think its kind of normal for Shin to say that the Demon Real Dragon Balls are the original. Daima is before Super, and Shin didn't even know who Zeno was at first. He still needs to be educated in many areas. Thats just my theory. He probably did know about them, I haven't seen Super in a long time.
No, in Super. It stated the Dragon Balls were created by Namekians from Super Dragon Ball fragments. But I suppose the whole art and power required to create Dragon Balls were given to original Demon Realm Namekians for some unknown reason, maybe Daima will reveal that reason.
That could be it Shin is inexperienced and doesn't know as much as he thinks. Although more of lore needs to be explained. Like how are the kais connected to the destroyer gods to the point that if one dies the other does.
Wait ... Wish to become King? Could it be the one who wished for that is King Furry's ancestor? Which explains why Earth has a Blue Dog for a King/Leader
my guess is still that the super dragonballs are the original dragonballs and the demon realm dragonballs are replications of the super dragonballs created by neva for the demon realm because he saw that his people were being subjugated so he made them to power up warrior namekians to be able to protect other namekians and when the namekians fled from the demon realm he created the tamagami so no one else can take the dragonballs
I’m thinking something wise and old, with like a beard. Since Neva is goofy, wise and old. Maybe Yoda inspired, like a lot of the demon realm has been inspired by Star Wars?
My list of who is the strongest eternal dragon it only includes canon and gt 1. Super shenron 2. Demon realm dragon balls 3.Ultimate shenron 4. Porunga 5.Toronbo 6. Shadow dragons 7. Shenron If included super heroes then dark shenron will be number 2
@@tigerlord9302No, I said that if Shenron can choose to only give one wish then shouldn’t his recharge time be shorter as well. Since he only gave Gomah one, is his recharge less than 12 months? We don’t know We only know that if he DOES want to grand you three wishes and you dismiss him early then the recharge is less
Daima contradicts the power of the Dragon Balls. The Z fighters are far stronger than Dende. So the dragon shouldn't have been able to turn them into kids. GT made the same mistake.
That's always been inconsistent For example, Goku getting his energy restored while launching the spirit bomb against Majin Buu. By the dragonballs logic, this shouldn't have worked.
I don’t agree with that take for GT but I do agree that with Daima its contradictory, at least with GT they’re different Dragonballs with a whole new set of rules so I give them a side eye but ultimately give them a pass. Now for things like restoring Gokus energy that I can ignore because there’s ways around it, for example the senzu beans can fully heal and restore someone like Goku so I can headcannon that shenron can just mimic the effect since I don’t imagine a senzu bean is beyond his power to create so he kinda just manifests it in their stomach or something.
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I like to personally think Shenron is refuses to grant an extra wish to the Demons in Daima because the last time he granted wishes to a demon he got killed.
That’d be funny lmao
“We don’t grant extra wishes to you dirty majin” -shenron, that one time
So he is racist againsts demons
@rataqueso2307 i mean his overall expirince with them was literally death
@MaxEG-i3w can you people learn to spell...it's experience
WW1: Archduke Francis Ferdinand Assassination
WW2: Painter rejected from art class
WW3: Dragon Balls
I want to see an extreme counterpoint to Super Shenron at some point.
A really tiny worm-sized Dragon who can only grant simple wishes, like finding your lost keys.
That would sick 😭 like a baby obe
What if a dragon like that came from an extremely inexperienced Namekian, like a baby or young child?
Like they have that instinct to create dragonballs super early, so they made this super simple dragon.
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Dende esca@@sketchydude8431
8:47 “PEEAASSSS AND CARRROOTTTSSS”
- Whis
Probably my favorite summoning 💀
@@SmugStick whole heartedly agree 🤣
Kinda strange how they say it was the wish to revive King Piccolo's victims that brought forth Eis, when Xenoverse claims that it was the wish to erase the memories of Buu's rampage from the people of Earth.
Yeah there’s two different explanations for it, one in the GT perfect files and the other from other sources. I should’ve mentioned that
"our Dragon could wear yours like a scarf"
-dende
💀
And then Super Shenron uses them both as keychains 😂
@@homerman76*toothpicks
@@SmugStick"nah I am dead!"
-smugstick, probably.
Fan Theory because Bardock wished for Goku and Raditz to thrive he inadvertently caused Planet Vegeta's destruction as a price.
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He already caught wind of that before he made the wish, his suspicion of it's destruction is why he made it
I felt like the Dragon Balls turned to stone for good when Akira Toriyama died. 😢
my guess on why nova shenron was made by the only evil wish is that the shadow dragons are created via negative energy, the negative version of evil is good, thus nova being brought forth from king picolos wish makes sense
Yeah that’s exactly my thought too!! I love Nova. Thanks for watching!
So, Zalama named the dragon "Super Shenron".
Nameless Namekian named the dragon "Ultimate Shenron".
And then Kami named the dragon....just Shenron.
😭😭😭
This vid was great. Keep it up man!
Thanks so much!
I predict that the demon Realm's Dragon will have pointed ears
he's like poronga but red
great vid!! didn't know about that weird ass mr popo shenglong lmaoo
Thanks man I appreciate it! Yeha Pokopoko is probably one of the weirdest things from online 😭
Smugstick happy new year
Happy new year!!
I think you'll have to update this once the DR Eternal Dragon is revealed.
Of course
7:10 he probably thought it was funny to not give king kai more wishes lmao
LMAO that’s so mean
Pretty sure it was because Kaiō took way too long deciding on a wish
amazing videos as always keep it up
You commented without finishing the video
Thanks king 🙏
Ultimate shenron is the best
He’s got a sick design
@@SmugSticki like smoke shenlong he just like that chill uncle
@@Cratflat-y1rYeah I’ve always had a special place in my heart for him. He appears for so little but it’s so different
I liked the Dragon Balls that Granolah used. They looked as if it had no consequences of using them.
The consequence for his wish in particular was a lot of his life, but I know what you mean. I love them
The main design difference is his hair grew a lot to symbolise the time he spent for said power
Nice work
Thanks king
@SmugStick Any time sir
Great video!
Thanks so much
There’s actually 1 1/2 more sets of Shadow Dragons! No one ever seems to bring them up since even by Heroes standards they’re obscure. They come from DBH and World Mission
There are the Super Shadow Dragons, which are just their super powered states.
Then there are the *Namekian* Shadow Dragons. Which are spawned from the Namekian dragon balls but share the same appearance as the normal ones.
Oh really???? Info on heroes is so hard to come by here I wish there was easier ways to find out about it, it’s so interesting
I think its kind of normal for Shin to say that the Demon Real Dragon Balls are the original. Daima is before Super, and Shin didn't even know who Zeno was at first. He still needs to be educated in many areas. Thats just my theory. He probably did know about them, I haven't seen Super in a long time.
No, in Super. It stated the Dragon Balls were created by Namekians from Super Dragon Ball fragments. But I suppose the whole art and power required to create Dragon Balls were given to original Demon Realm Namekians for some unknown reason, maybe Daima will reveal that reason.
That could be it Shin is inexperienced and doesn't know as much as he thinks. Although more of lore needs to be explained. Like how are the kais connected to the destroyer gods to the point that if one dies
the other does.
4:03 Looks at King Furry
I thought the same thing lmao
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Wassup!
Finally out! (Cant wait)
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Wait ... Wish to become King?
Could it be the one who wished for that is King Furry's ancestor? Which explains why Earth has a Blue Dog for a King/Leader
💀
my guess is still that the super dragonballs are the original dragonballs and the demon realm dragonballs are replications of the super dragonballs created by neva for the demon realm because he saw that his people were being subjugated so he made them to power up warrior namekians to be able to protect other namekians and when the namekians fled from the demon realm he created the tamagami so no one else can take the dragonballs
That’s a good interpretation, I think he definitely made them because they were being ensalved
When will the next what if come out
Currently taking a break from them
I still don't see why people say gt isn't canon when toriyama stated multiple times it's canon just alternate timeline
8:40 he is a wyrm
Ye
Beerus would still scare most of them.
Yeah lmao
Except Super Shenlong(Shenron)
Or ultimate shenron or dark shenron, they would probably not be scared of beerus.
Oh wow😮
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Smugatock when is next what if also can you do what if smugstick was in dragon ball
Not for a while, but I am planning on making that one sometime
All 3 Dragonball z sequel series involve someone wishing someone being a kid.
Oh yeah 😭 Even super, the Pilaf gang. I didn’t think about that
I wonder what the dragon from the demon realm dragon balls is going to look like
I’m thinking something wise and old, with like a beard. Since Neva is goofy, wise and old. Maybe Yoda inspired, like a lot of the demon realm has been inspired by Star Wars?
@SmugStick that makes sense
My list of who is the strongest eternal dragon it only includes canon and gt
1. Super shenron
2. Demon realm dragon balls
3.Ultimate shenron
4. Porunga
5.Toronbo
6. Shadow dragons
7. Shenron
If included super heroes then dark shenron will be number 2
You think the shadow dragons are weaker than Porunga? I agree with the rest, but sheer power I think Omega goes above most
Wonder how the demon realm shenron would look like
Same here. If they’re anything like Neva, maybe their dragon is super old and wise?
@ like a old version of parunga
What if Omega Shenron got the ultimate dragon balls?
That’s the story of dragon ball z ultimate Tenkaichi!
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Wasn’t that the whole point of stopping Bulma from using the Dragon Balls in the Buu Saga? To make the charge time shorter?
Yes, Goku stopping her made the time to recover 4 months instead of 12
@@SmugStickBut you said that it’s unsure in that case. 🤷♂️
@@tigerlord9302No, I said that if Shenron can choose to only give one wish then shouldn’t his recharge time be shorter as well. Since he only gave Gomah one, is his recharge less than 12 months?
We don’t know
We only know that if he DOES want to grand you three wishes and you dismiss him early then the recharge is less
@@SmugStickOh thanks, you go through it so fast I got confused. 😁😂🤣
@@tigerlord9302no worries lol
If Kami created shenron shouldn't he be able to grant wishes?
Nah, its not one to one what power each had
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Shadow Dragons spell “Shenron”… TIL!
Yeah it’s cool!
Sad each dragon balls' Chinese names were never used again
Yeah, it’s a neat part of the lore that’s overlooked
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The supreme god Dragon literally just being named Super Earth Dragon is still a terrible naming choice
I mean Shenron just means Dragon God
@SmugStick Even worse
The dragon balls are a little 😮💨 in history in a ova the history of dragon ball ( i think ) shenlong was basically born in hell no cap
You mean the one where a god made a single dragon ball and split it? Yeah that’s from filler where Roshi tells a story
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Daima contradicts the power of the Dragon Balls. The Z fighters are far stronger than Dende. So the dragon shouldn't have been able to turn them into kids. GT made the same mistake.
That's always been inconsistent
For example, Goku getting his energy restored while launching the spirit bomb against Majin Buu. By the dragonballs logic, this shouldn't have worked.
I don’t agree with that take for GT but I do agree that with Daima its contradictory, at least with GT they’re different Dragonballs with a whole new set of rules so I give them a side eye but ultimately give them a pass.
Now for things like restoring Gokus energy that I can ignore because there’s ways around it, for example the senzu beans can fully heal and restore someone like Goku so I can headcannon that shenron can just mimic the effect since I don’t imagine a senzu bean is beyond his power to create so he kinda just manifests it in their stomach or something.