AWARENESS OR ATTENTION? Synnibear03 and the communities problem
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First of all.
- Commentary Community Unhinged creeps and defenders
- Art Community / PNG etc community unhinged creeps that have their defenders.
First of all I think youre defending people in youre community who are creeps.
Creepypasta community people who were on deviantart and had Lio convoys associates ponder Sprocket defended. Them. Creeps. In all communities. Deviantart.
Deviantart has alot I mean ALOT of neo nazi imagery. And support of neo nazi imgary And other degen stuff. On that site. Aswell as creepypasta art. Also weird fetish art 😮. Aimed at children 😮.
Doxers and unhinged people. Ive been doxed by mental patients. Like you etc.
Who make false accusations.
If people have a different opinion to yours. Then why are you making a fuss of it.
TBH I wouldnt be surprised if any other art degen is a creep.
If You have a brain cell. 100 or a big sub account. On youtube. A NECRO and inappropriate nsfw art is aimed at kids.
Mrbeast=Illuminati.
Its weird and satanic as hell.
Its not the people looking into this communities fault. Its mainly problems in all youre communities to be honest. That youre all defending. Or saying people " are parroting" their sayinf and warning people even I am of these dangerous communities.
honestly i hate how everyone tends to joke about the situation instead of taking it serious. by joking about it you're not helping the victims with a situation that might literally scar them for years.
and if what synni said is true im glad they hope to seek therapy and become better. doesnt mean i forgive, support, or defend them, but at least they want to do something instead of shrugging it off like other people have.
i still need to watch a bit more on this situation but jesus cant people be decently mature?
I'd reccomend going to the original documents linked in birdies video description (assuming you are above the age of 18), I link it in my video card too if you need a shortcut. Getting information from the source really helps prove he whole 'internet telephone' thing
Some people even me may like jokes in these situations, hell I saw Birdie like a few of them in her comments about the situation and even birdie put a laughing emoji in the description.
Maybe they are mature but sometimes making jokes can lighten the mood not gonna lie, I am actually somewhat one of those people too as well depending on how I feel or situation
@@Lulosez yeah i get it but usually these jokes do go too far and get too repetitive to the point it's just annoying or insensitive. sometimes even attention seeking. it also does kinda depend on the type of situation and what joke you're making though. just saying not supposed to be a negative comment or anythin i got dark humor too so i understand
@@chaiiskies thank you i plan to do this in my free time yeah
@ birdie
Hi- I did watch the full video before commenting.
I think this is really well put and I appreciate your perspective. As a 19 year old, I feel deeply uncomfortable with children making videos on this situation. Sure, the victim was 14, but this is an incredibly adult situation I don't want more minors to be involved in. I keep wanting to see videos about the actual evidence to add to it- considering that Jack himself admitted to not reading the screenshots. (Which I can't blame him for, he knows enough as is.)
It almost reminds me of the Cristalli situation. Just... how children stepped into dangerous places and got themselves victimized as well. Or how children ranted about this creep without having the perspective to.
I've been in this community for many years and it's disheartening to watch everyone repeat actions they should've learned from. I've honestly thought about making a video on how the art commentary / animation community has been for years. I just want things to change. It's really sad that when I start researching older situations, another one like this pops up.
Oh gosh I forgot about crystali... that had a serious ripple effect too, good point.
As someone who has been in this community for many years, it terrifies me to watch people idolize someone. the actions of Synni were predatory, and I am IN NO WAY blaming the fans or victims, but having such a large platform from such a young age really enabled those behaviours to impact more people and go under the radar. No minor should be considered someones 'Idol'. it sets a poor president from the very start.
@@chaiiskies and the whole Spoctor drama as well. I remember it was the same format “this person is bad boo they groomed someone boo go unsubscribe to them”. There was also another situation with the whale video text that I forgot the name but I remember it was pretty big in the gacha community for a while and the same aware video format as Synnibear03 video but more fearmongering and it’s overall, not a good commentary informed video
@@chaiiskies Yes exactly! God... Learn from your history else you'll repeat it.
I really think this community needs to do that before something like this happens again.
Took the words right out of my mouth. I found it a bit uncomfy how it’s mainly children talking about this like a kid that thinks they’re a big kid ready for the real world when in reality it’s not as safe and black-and-white as it seem because WHOOPS, they don’t actually know the weight and scope of what they’re doing.
@@chaiiskies Im so glad people are saying this; like, I think we can support the victims AND hold Synni accountable for the horrid shit she did without denying her experience as a CSA survivor and insinuating she's irredeemable. Also ur so on the nose with the idolization of minors bit; I have no comments on it, aside from this being the exact reason why shit like this seems to be happening so much with younger adults who blew up on their platforms as kids.
This situation seems less like “bringing awareness” and more “pity me” tbh? Like, let me explain. I watched a few videos with “I was a fan! I’m so traumatized by this!” all over them. Literally yesterday, I watched a video by an adult saying how traumatic it was to be friends with her now. I haven’t seen any videos not bringing up how “upset” they are because they were fans.
While I feel for those who have lost a respected friend and I know they are hurting (and these are entirely valid emotions to feel, I will not deny how upsetting it can be to lose even just a content creator whos videos you enjoy, let alone anything more personal) it is important to keep the public eye focused on the issue at hand and not speak over those directly involved.
It’s kinda parasocial
like another person replied, its because its parasocial. especially in this community, many people grew up watching synni so they feel personally betrayed and probably are just looking to vent out their frustration which is unfortunate because its taking away from the situation at hand. im not saying i agree with it - im just saying i get it, yk?
@@mm.akoshark everyone’s way more focused on themselves and Jack, not saying jack doesn’t deserve support cause he definitely does in this situation but so does the victim. As a victim of grooming I know that shit can mess with your head so badly especially as a kid
@@mm.akoshark (I’m pretty sure the victims the same age as me
SO GLAD SOMEONE IS TALKING ABOUT THIS - i’ve seen it happen with many many situations
do you have a discord acc btw…
I do, but I am currently keeping it restricted to commissioners and close friends, and I do not allow minors to add or speak with me in private on there (so it is not in my bio or descriptions)
@@chaiiskies ah okay, sorry
Tbh the whole groomer nae nae thing from back when is the no.1 reason why kids need to stay away from this stuff. Such a serious issue becomes so normalized and then watered down... I understand feeling betrayed or having strong emotions (my heart broke in half when Sagutoyas was outed) but people, especially minors, can react in a way that is detrimental due to having a lack of experience or perspective. These serious situations have nuance and cannot be viewed in a black-and-white way. It's especially dangerous since it's on the internet, and one misinformed video can misinform hundreds.
There is a lot to say about this community and why everything turns into 'drama' even if it is literally a criminal offense, but that'd take hours. Good video, sadly I feel like this is gonna keep happening.
Oh my god groomer nae nae... the memories you just unlocked... yeah, if anything showed a lack of maturity when interacting with these subjects it was that.
The groomer nae nae thing has cone back with synni. I called them out for it like "ey, we went through this before with Foxi Boxi and it helps shit" and the guy pulled the "no bc she groomed kids and is a predator" card. Like, I never said she didn't, but doing this helps NOTHING
THANK YOU 🙏
Someone had to say it..
I have been seeing so many videos abt it- and they’re all the same 😭one person i saw even said alot of misinformation in their video!! Like dude??
I wanted to share the video on my community tab but ik that most of my audience is just children so it probably wouldn’t add much TwT..
Situations like this should not become quick cash grabs (slash,, attention grab?) Its just sad :/
i don't think many of the videos are monetized (because of channel size most likely)? So it would be attention rather than cash. Also, I believe that the content mentioned would prevent monetization, but as I said I don't actually monetize my videos at this stage and don't really know the process haha.
i feel like this video may as well be called "Synnibear03 and the Ethics of making awareness videos"
This is why I ignored most of the "Synnibear03 is a groomer" videos because I knew it was gonna be the same topic over and over again, and it just gets repetitive at this point. I mean, these kinds of things always happen whenever a TH-camr gets caught, its basically how the internet acts when it comes to trends. If they see something popular, they'll just copy paste it.
I genuinely beleive many of them to have good intentions, I just don't see it as appropriate or helpful in many ways
I kinda stopped after the second one that popped up my feed.
I get what you mean. Channels do take advantage of popular heavy topics like this and essentially make “drama” videos about it. The most recent and obvious situation of this occurring is the MrBeast stuff, in which content farms have made countless videos back to back talking about the new hot topic in order to gain easy subs and views. Like you said, it’s not that people are talking about it or even making copious amounts of videos covering the same subject, it’s more about how little they add to the topic and are seemingly riding the wave of its popularity.
There are people streaming my messages with synni (hi im O in the callout doc) and making jokes n shit and it makes me feel like they're not really taking it seriously. One streamer even said that socks discomfort with synnis obsession with boy was just "oc drama" (they sounded like an adult so this is very disappointing)
Hi there,
Just rereading the document now to refresh my memory, but I hope you are supported at this time by close friends or family you can trust. Internet safety is something that has unfortunately become very lax in the last decade or so and i worry for the safety of young people online...
I also hope that this video did justice to your and Eno's situation. i did not want to bandwagon or capitalize on this at all, or speak disrespecfully about it. the fact that people are is sickenin ad would be even if the situation were less severe.
Also apologies for not seeing this earlier, this comment was held for review? Very strange given the context of other comments bu I found it now
Ah yes, obsessing over an oc and making him a goddamn rappist in a noncon comic surely is just oc drama!
I am so sorry for everything that has happened, and I hope everyone involved find peace and are able to move on
@@chaiiskies Don't worry, I think this video is very respectful and I agree 100% with it
as a teenager, i loved watching "drama" "rant" videos, i would watch every single one that appeared on my feed. now i recognize that a lot of them will just be the same news rehashed over and over again, without anything new added. so, now when a situation happens, i will try to watch the first / biggest video, then no others, unless i think they will have something new to add. that's actually why i clicked on this one, because by the title i figured it would be addressing this exact issue :)
Now that you're saying this, it kind of reminds me of the news on TV. It's the same brain washing crap repeated all day. (At least where I live.)
I 100% agree with you. This ripple effect is common within countless communities that are "spreading awareness" about situations involving serious topics. Unfortunately, this is bound to happen and I don't believe people know they're doing more harm than good when they publish their videos. People who weren't directly involved shouldn't be publishing videos speaking out about allegations that could POTENTIALLY spiral the situation down a rabbit hole of misinformation nor should they garner sympathy for how they "lost respect for Synnibear03" and how they claim they "used to look up to her", etc. It feels blatantly disrespectful to the victims affected, in my opinion. How people respond/react to a situation is CRUCIAL because ACTUAL people have been hurt in unimaginable ways and it's disgusting to exploit their trauma for TH-cam views. I'm aware SOME creators don't intend to cause harm however creating a video giving YOUR perspective on a situation you're not remotely involved in is DANGEROUS.
Heavily agree.
The main part of these situations i'm mad about is people constantly making jokes about it like "watch out bro your gonna be groomed next💀" or "bro think he drake💀" like i know most of these people making those jokes are kids but its also being influenced by adult creators of talking about other cases and not taking shit seriously, its so disrespectful and like, especially with the synni situation the victim + birdie could be harmed again out of retaliation due to the situation..
It is okay to make jokes and make light of your own trauma to help you cope. It is not okay to do the same for someone elses trauma. That is the difference often forgotten.
the amount of comments that say “you shouldve stuck with sans” like can we be mature for once
I am 18 years old (animator and artist)
But yes I’ve seen a tread on this and even in 2020 many kids would start talking about serious issues on TH-cam and even on other apps. I barely talk about serious stuff unless someone is making stuff about me (mostly it would be young people too). It’s odd, and I’m glad I didn’t get into any of it when I was a minor. I was actually thinking of it until I changed my mind because synni was only one inspo and I only made a community tab saying I’m no longer support them (and they are no longer my inspo) I do hope their could be less but sadly kids will be kids, even though we try to stop, even in my experience I had to learn some hard ways myself.
people really need to learn and practice media literacy lol
I think a lot of the issue here specifically is that the community are young (yes, I found 19 year olds as young in terms of mindset and maturity), so they genuinely are still developing the ability to critically consume media and have balanced points of view on things. Hell I'm an old fart and even I struggle sometimes to see past opinion into fact
@@chaiiskiestrue, i get that. it's especially hard with kids being surrounded 24/7 by these kinds of content, which kinda normalizes and/or reinforces the behavior. even the more "media literate" will sometimes have their biases/emotions override rational thought. im definitely trying to improve myself in regards to fact checking claims and investigating sources haha
anyways, good video! important topic and very relevant to not just youtube communities but the wider media/publication sphere as well ❤
“unless you’re directly involved or a large channel” that is simply a horrible take, larger channels and directly involved people have incredible biases on situations like this. Larger channels can be under brand deals, or even be worried about sponsors which can lead them to not speaking about certain and IMPORTANT aspects. I could understand how you would say directly involved people should speak up which I 100% agree with but indirectly saying smaller channels shouldn’t just makes no sense and is utterly hypocritical.
And the spreading awareness part, the videos being made are getting people to check out and see the situation whether you know it or not. Many people under these videos that I’ve seen made by smaller ccs always have people in the comments saying “I didn’t know this, condolences to the victims”(of course not that exactly but ykwim). Not everyone is going to be in the animation meme or art space, it’s important to even break that barrier to have been able to support the gofundme and prevent people who are joining the community at this moment from talking to people like synni. Spreading awareness isn’t exclusively about just that specific situation, it’s to prevent it from ever happening again(even though it’s a childish hope).
Also! I’m not trying to be rude at all even though it might come off as such, I understand where you’re coming from. I’ve made a video about the situation myself, I pretty much agree with this entire video except that.
no offence taken! I understand where you are coming from here, and to clarify I do agree that larger channels can be influenced negatively on these issues. My point was more so that very small channels cannot 'spread awareness' effectively due to the amount of people who actually see their videos, and that by extension making an 'awareness' video that likely won't reach anyone who isn't yet aware of the situation is a bit of an ineffective waste of your time and can result in a telephone effect where information is misconstrued or twisted into being untruthful, as we have seen many times online.
Also I am always happy to discuss the topics of my videos :) I am human and my phrasing or understanding of an idea can be wrong or different to someone else's. I'm glad we have a community forum to (respectfully) discuss things
Reminds me of when Dream had the (thankfully) false grooming allegations. The amount of people jumping on the bandwagon disguised as "awareness" and making jokes over that was disgusting
Sadly the allegations against Synni are true, but the community's reaction was not any better
This entirely reminds me of the foxi boxi situation.
I don't know who they were but as soon as I watch one video of them I get a whole bunch of them from small creators.
As well as animation memes about foxi boxi and their allegations without bringing the context or explaining a full detail.
Less than a week later it's been exposed that victim was also proved to be terrible person and perhaps as bad as foxi (and from what I understand correct me if I'm wrong made false allegations. as foxi and the victim were both minors at the time)
Now the problem was everyone who discovered that foxi was a "groomer" made so many animation memes to the point that it became a trend and wasn't taking the situation seriously as sharing false information.
(again I could be wrong, this is from me seeing multiple videos of the situation, so if I'm incorrect please let me know)
I am not well informed on the foxiboxi situation so I can't comment on it specifically, but from what I do know there was a lot of information being spread at breakneck pace without much regaurd for valaidity from either side
the main problem or issue with the whole thing is that animators with small channels made animations about foxi boxi and basically made it an entire trend. When not even explaining who they are or what they did or anything they just played the "groomer Nae Nae song" holding the map pride flag and Zoo pride flag and an animated it with a silly dance.
And it just felt childish and weird? seemingly trying to get cloud of it as well.
And that's what your video is just reminding me.
That and the memes people did was just disturbing to watch
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Gotta say, as much as i agree with everything youre saying, its just so funny to me looking back, because everything you just criticized is _exactly_ what people have been doing in the animation meme community since the BEGINNING. Making videos for attention all saying the same thing about a popular topic, repeating it over and over and playing internet telephone.
Only recently has there been any change.
@SophTheNeko oh my goodness hello, I was in your live yesterday and am in your server. I enjoy your videos, they summarize situations well for your audience.
And no you're absolutely correct. I was a part of the multi animator scene for years now and watched from the sidelines as the meme community exploded at a 13 year old sashley, and then many more times after that. I don't expect any change to happen as a result of this video and I'm not deluded enough to anticipate it, but it was all things that needed to be said plain and clear. I'm surprised I didn't receive more hatred for this video to be honest. A community created for art has become a breeding ground for drama, hatred and unfortunately very real situations such as the one recently discussed. There is no room for nuance or opinion when people will mindlessly echo other creators to oblivion.
I'm mostly just commenting to boost the algorithm a little bit, but thank you for covering this b/c it's what I've been thinking for the longest time. it's become a serious problem that these content creators (often minors) are taking these super heavy topics and, intentionally or unintentionally, exploiting them for views. this isn't just "drama", there are victims that could be further hurt by potential misinformation being spread around.
Devouring the art in the background
tysm! I never finished it sadly
It's weird that I had grown up watching a sans-fangirl channel that turn into an actual freak.
Her videos introduce me to good music channels like suicidesheep and madeon.
I'm disappointed that every youtuber I look-up to, gets exposed for their malicious acts but also to innocent youtubers that are slandered. It's hard to believe nowadays.
my god, thank you for pointing this out! I'm so tired of all those drama channels pumping out videos about some viral topic while contributing absolutely nothing to the discussion. they don't present any real evidence to back up their claims and more often than not blatantly steal from each other. that's not "covering the situation" or "spreading awareness", that's leeching off other people's tragedy.
I have to agree with this video since I seen alot of videos of this drama on my TH-cam feed and I just have no words on this drama b/c I’m not in a mood to cover this and it’s scary for me b/c I got traumatized of seeing the documents and seeing the nsfw art made me feel disgusted.
however, I don’t support Synni anymore and hope she gets off the internet for good.
WE APPRECIATE YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO, TY! /pos
I'm really glad you appreciate the video and I hope you are able to treat yourself with kindness and rest after being affected by those documents.
It really bothers me. They never add helpful information because they don't understand or look into the situation. There should be stricter rules in place so these children can't have access to content and people they should not be interacting with. It never ends well.
jfc i was literally just thinking about this, how my front page was full of the same topic over and over, spitting out the same recorded block of text. it felt so copy and pasted, and really, i dunno- insincere?? like people are treating this like a trend. really starting their videos with “i didn’t want to make a video about this”- then don’t ? it’s like it’s a race to get the situation recap video out before anyone else. i’m just glad i haven’t seen any groomer nae nae memes about this. i saw one and i think it was deleted quickly because the comments were not having it
People are also using wrong terms, such as saying “synni is a pedophile” even though she was not attracted to a minor. I read the screenshots and I feel as if calling it grooming is slightly incorrect. There didn’t seem to be manipulation involved or enough time for it to be grooming. (Grooming needs the manipulation and long term relationship build to be considered grooming) It’s sexual harassment for sure and I’m not defending synni because clearly she sucks but I want people to stop misusing these terms. If they tried to charge her with these things in court it would not stand because it doesn’t fall under being a groomer. And people calling her a predator also wouldn’t stand because being a sexual predator there had to have been a violent sexual crime which this doesn’t fall under.
It was sexual harassment, sexual persuasion, and sending sexual content to a minor
All condolences to the victim I hope they get better and I hope our community starts using lawful terms correctly
Edit: yall I didn’t say she wasn’t a groomer I said that in court calling her one wouldn’t stand because she didn’t do everything that legally counts as grooming
That is the internet telephone effect... especially awful considering when you open the original (first) document it states in plain text that the victim does not believe Synni to be a ped*phile but a groomer. I have seen videos by larger TH-camrs accidentally (because I do not believe any of them to be malicious) portraying this as ped*phillic and its concerning
@@chaiiskies yeah, forgot to mention but great video 💞
Please be serious, if a 21 year old was sending sexual content to a 14 year old child, it would still be classified as predatory and pedophilia because of it being an adult and a child. You don't need to be attracted to a child to commit pedophilic actions. Also birdie, the roommate of synni, confirmed she was in fact a groomer and even synni admitted it in the audio call of birdies video.
@@Lemoncakelover678 she wasn’t attracted to a child so she legally isnt a pedophilia. A sexual predator is a person who commits a violent sexual crime. Its not like im not saying her crimes arent bad they are, I was saying that yall are saying the wrong crimes and youre clearly an example of that. It was sexual harassment that is still just as bad and serious and isnt using the wrong legal terms.
the definition of grooming doesn't have a set time. Grooming is indeed the correct word for what they did, as well as sending sexual content to a minor
We’re at the early stages of turning the art community into the commentary community, the new generation is coming and we can’t stop it
To be fair, I think commentaries were common in the art but mostly the animation meme community for a very long time now.
@@KodokunaSenshi Its the first time im pointing this out, the art community is basically another commentary community in disguise
You worded yourself wonderfully, and made me think a lot. I try to avoid content slop from children of this situation (or any for that matter), but thank you for making this video.
I’m so glad that someone said this. It’s so weird how many videos I have gotten recommend to me that seem to be capitalizing on this issue. I don’t want to sound mean, but if I can’t tell the different between the thumbnail of a video about a sexual predator and the thumbnail of an animation meme then something is very wrong. None of the videos are giving new information anyway, just rehashing the situation for clout.
Oh im SO glad this got on my recommended page im so glad someone mentioned this cause its exactly what i was thinking,,, I watched Jack's video and maybe one or two more after his just for keeping up with the situation as normally theres new stuff that comes out after the initial drop, but pretty quickly noticed just how many new videos were being uploaded about Sinny when i knew there was nothing new that happened in regards to her yet. It got weird really fast. Children should not be involved in discussing serious crimes like this, and anyone in general should not be adding their two cents when they're not even part of the situation. Being a youtubers fan doesn't make anyone involved,, It really is another terrible "drama trend" that honestly reminds me of how many kids started doing the groomer nae nae meme on mass that other time too 😭
I'm glad it did too because your art is lovely :D
here from daisycord. keep up the good work dawg!!
This video summarizes a lot of my thoughts on how this situation has been covered, I've already seen multiple videos spreading misinfo, even seemingly small things like confusing people involved can change how people perceive what happened, it's clear to me that for many of these videos, they're unscripted, and the person just talks about the situation from memory, which can cause the mistakes i mentioned previously. It's so important that things like this receive accurate coverage, and the doc does that well. On social media, people have also been spreading misinfo, calling her a pedophile and generally getting things wrong about the situation. It doesn't help the victims at all, and people just aren't taking it as seriously as they should.
THANK YOU, it always rubbed me the wrong way how people too this so lightheartedly :(
genuinley THANK you for making this video ive had the same exact thought with my reccomendeds flooded with videos of minors parroting the same thing
I think I heard that youtube started pushing out videos of a smaller creators and this is why video with 15 views got to you. I think this is true, because last couple of months I started noticing more videos from smaller creators on my fyp (and not even videos about the topic that I waas watching at the time, just random videos with less than 100 views) and its great, finally something good from youtube.
Agreed, whenever I come back to watching memes, it starts recommending me small animators. And also small streamers. Good stuff, especially as a small creator myself :D
Alright, I watched the video in its entirety. Pretty much agreed with most of what you said here.
When I watched some of the other videos regarding the synnibear03 situation (aside from synni’s and jack’s videos, as well as the docs), I was hoping for more information that actually adds on to what’s going on, only to be disappointed that all the videos said the same thing with nothing new added. And don’t get me started on the people making light of this situation. Like there’s no need for Kendrick’s “Not Like Us” song being referenced over and over again.
There are many content creators, big and small, who hop onto a bandwagon purely for the clout that it will give them, and its very apparent that they don’t truly care about the severity of the situation or the victims involved (I hate using the word victim, but I couldn’t think of anything else). They just want a justification to hate on someone they’ve either always hated and wanted a reason to do so or just because it is a hot topic to do so. Yes, in the case of synni, she admitted to the deplorable behavior that she committed, and maybe many of these kids had good intent with the videos they made, but there were many cases of people being WRONG or spreading misinformation on other situations with devastating consequences.
But honestly, it’s always been this way and it think it will always continue; community behavior is out of one’s control. This is why I have stopped watching most of these commentary videos for the longest time. If there’s a situation I wish to learn more about, I will do my own due diligence to find more info if its there, or wait for more info to come out.
I do hope those who were actually affected by this situation recover and move forward.
Honestly yeah I agree everything felt so redundant and repetitive the only video I felt actually might be adding something is this person who talked ant their personal experience with Synni plus their friends nicknamee brother. Idk if what they claim is true but if it is it actually adds to the information we currently have rn. Birdie is only making another video soon is because hes gotten more intel on the situation and ofc he's their soon to be former roommate who's also a victim of Synni (Non consensually touching him in certain areas, aka SA) everyone else is just kids trying to feel like they're apart of the situation or helping somehow. Some just one attention to their small channels, I remember watching every video I saw to see if there was anything new but it was all the same parroted points and info. And it felt for some it was a clout chasing type of deal.
I have actually seen the video with 'brother' and was surprised to hear it was new firsthand experiences being added, though as far as I remember it lacked evidence (I may be wrong on this point, I would need to find and rewatch the video to know). I'm glad that it was clear I am not discouraging people with small channels to stay silent but want to keep the parroting information to a minimum so that these small creators with something to add have space to talk.
birdies not making a new video anymore
ive been thinking this for a while. I've seen this happen time and time again with different situations that were publicized in this community
THANK YOU. there are so many videos on this topic and I've watched quite a bit of them and all the people making the videos sound so young. I don't think people should make a video on shit like this unless they have more info or are involved.
well i understand the concern but what can you really say about it? kids like to be involved in things just as a general rule, esp if they think its a mature topic. its unfortunate that it’s contributing to the spread of misinfo but im afraid telling the people who are doing it to stop is gonna have a kind of d.a.r.e effect w even more minors tuning in and seeing the docs than before. it seems like its kind of just a side effect of the ipad baby era n the availability of it that kids involve themselves in things that will ultimately be bad for their development cuz they dont understand the value of childhood yet.
tldr; valid concern but this trend aint going away anytime soon no matter how hard u criticize it kids r like brick walls
haha yes I understand it's pretty unlikely for change to happen from this one video, but if it gave pause to one person I think it as worth making. A lot of the time young people are uninformed about the reults of their actions. Informing them may not change their minds, but it could give them something to consider.
(this might get confusing hehe, Pls ask me what you don't understand when you're reading this)
I understand the whole explanation and I actually understand your point of your perspective.
Your explanation got my brain ticking and it boosted my morale mind brain cells
Not explaining other details related to that one video because some viewers are sensitive to listening to this topic and I have a relative who's sensitive about that topic too (they are not a victim but they are sensitive to hearing about that topic) and it's good that you don't just insult others work even that content that was actually pointed something the opposite of good
Explaining the way other content creators make, Even some should know that they should not bring up the topic anywhere in social media trash talking to them isn't gonna help anything to fix it, bringing up the same topic of drama all the time is getting out of hand
Side note as well, Minors should be really careful of whatever they do on social media, there is a lot of predators around online, and should know some things that are wrong and what's right in social media, even I am a artist myself is getting more concerned for my friends and my relative of how art community in social media has become, it's sad honestly what this year is turning.
and hello my name is irian and I am your new sub chaii, and yes I watched the video before commenting
A much as content creators who also makes awareness vids they should know this before creating awareness vid
Feels like a lot of channels are just using this to boost channel growth by spouting the same repetitive points, And it’s literally working for them. It just feels copy and pasted.
I just saw the title so far so heads up (this is an agreeing w the title comment btw), but after seeing this it kinda reminded me of Nekko's situation and now nobody cared about her until the ai stuff went up in flames. not defending nekko but it's kinda sad. might update after watching idk.
@TheEighthWonder91 I'm assuming you mean owonekko, I haven't even watched a video of that situation or looked into it yet but my page has been plastered in them too, it really proves my point about parroting that without watching a single video I know the controversy
@@chaiiskies mhm.
NO BECAUSE THIS IS SO REAL
and then these mfers will be like "but first here's today's sponsor!" on a video where some minorcraft player was tryna hit up an 11yo
like if you're mad about a bad videogame update, fine whatever, if there's this new product that's actually terrible and people are wasting their money, idrc. BUT WHEN THE TOPIC IS A SERIOUS ALLEGATION AGAINST A PROMINENT CREATOR THAT'S NOT JUST A 5 MINUTE VIDEO AND THEN YOU PROFIT THATS GROSS AS HELL
and they're ALL the same like if you dont have anything new to add, you're essentially stealing content that's not yours and you have no right to be posting. there is way too much wrong with youtube when things like this happen
This comment is exactly why I felt the need to make my pinned comment clarifying that I don't monetize or profit from this content
@@chaiiskies ikik i’m agreeing w you im just phrasing it in my own way
I agree 100%!
I mostly agree with you but I’ll bring up one thing-
A lot of these channels are focused on their own personal feelings about Synni . They are doing their best to process that someone they loved turned out to be the worst possible person. I think that it’s ok to feel personally betrayed by her, considering a lot of people built their art off her and formed a parasocial relationship. I felt hurt too , but i have a good network of people to talk to privately so I was able to channel my feelings there. I know that in an ideal world, we really should just focus on empathy towards the victim , Jack and a few others involved and maybe only handle our own feelings of betrayal as the audience in private . But as I stated , people are flawed and those videos seem like an efficient way to vent it out, Atleast to them. As you said yourself - they will get ten views at most so it’s not even like there’s some malicious grind for clout. That being said , I think that regardless of how let down they are or how young , they should learn to fact check them if they wish to discuss the situation on their channel. It’s something you learn in school and there is no excuse. I know that there definitely is a few people that are just pushing this for clout and i don’t mean them. I just mean the 12 yr olds who decided to vent about the situation
hiya, I just wanted to say I completely agree with what you're saying, but I also feel as though we need to be making kids more aware of their digital footprint. I in no way mean to invalidate or insult those who feel personally betrayed by someone they thought to be a pinnacle of trustworthiness. HOWEVER I also discourage the public expression of these feelings before you have had a chance to process those emotions in a productive manner. As someone who misused public forums to vent out my emotions when I was a teenager/younger I know how spilling yout guts online can make you feel better in the moment but ultimately may come back to bite you. A lot of these younger people don't realize or care that their videos are forever. I highly encourage working through those feelings with family or friends in private if possible and coming to the situation with a clear head. It is easy to say things you will regret when emotions are running high and nobody deserves for their mistakes to be made permenant.
@@chaiiskies yeh I don’t disagree with anything . Even if it’s something we simple as saying “groomers are awful they suck” it could be twisted someway somehow by some sickos. I don’t think it’s in any way ideal. And I do think they should be respectfully informed. I just think it’s too far saying that what these kids are inherently evil , clout chasing monsters that are as bad as Synni herself (I’ve seen a comment say this before on another video. In no way have you implied this.) While these videos aren’t beneficial to maybe anyone but the maker in short term I don’t think the makers warrant harassment or any heavy fear.
THANK YOU for calling this out, you literally only need Jacks video to get the whole picture which is what I did
What pisses me off is it feels like EVERY SINGLE TIME people care more about hating the TH-camr then helping the victim because really, if you’re making videos like this for views and ONLY views then it’s obvious that you don’t care about the victim
And it’s so normalised like NO I DONT wanna see the 1000th video telling me the same thing by a minor who doesn’t have any business talking about it
To add on, it’s literally stuff like this that makes it so easy for false claims to spread, which pisses me off as all hell
And people NEVER LEARN, every single time it’s revealed a person was innocent they never ONCE reflect and maybe just MAYBE think “hmmm maybe next time I should be a little more cautious when a TH-camr has allegations against them” not ONCE
I agree with you for the most part but want to add you only need Jacks video AND THE SUBSEQUENT DOCUMENTS HE LINKED in his description. the evidence should speak for itself, the video should concisely deliver that evidence for those who cant read the documents (if they are too young, have literacy disabilities, etcetera).
@@chaiiskies oh yeah of course how could I forget
Side note, but I’m glad I found your channel through this video cause your other videos are really well drawn :))
I haven’t been to watch the whole video yet but from all that I’ve watched of this one, and just…reading through the comments, I really hope this video reaches more people. After watching Birdie’s video which, you should watch I think it’s a good video if you wanna get the gist of what’s going on, a bunch of other videos dealing with Synni were pushed my way and while I didn’t watch any, it just felt like people either making videos to cash in one “the latest drama” (even tho it isn’t drama) or trying to insert themselves in the whole situation to gain pity points.
I just ultimately hope people don’t derail this entire situation.
Hi, thank you for putting this into words.
I've seen so many videos on the situation pop up but I thought I was weird for being kind of... Annoyed, let's say. In a way that I can now probably describe as "I've seen the videos from her former close associates, what more is there to say?" It's like everyone really wants to be this sort of... Vigilante news anchor...? I suppose...? Perhaps that is a strange choice of words, but I don't know how else to put it. Amateur? (That implies any of us are professionals, which, none of us are.) Wannabe? Do people want to test their art commentary video editing skills or something? I don't mean any of this as an insult, mind, I'm just concerned.
I think some of these guys forgot that you gotta add something new to the table when making stuff.
The obly few videos that were informative were the ones who are close friends and were in the situqtion themselsve, had contsct and actually did their research, now jack had alrwady reached his goal which was great and all but ho estly you cannor avoid this, people qill constantly do this and even if you address so they dtill will continue to do so unfortunatwly, no amount of they can will make them stop 😭
I use to watch her n i did like her style n stuffbut yk, i grew out of it. im actually not too surprised this happened as i think some controversy came up with her before so yk,,,
Honestly I only have watched Jack and Soph's video
I genuinely have no idea whats going on i feel completely lost on this
lost on what exactly? maybe I can help explain :)
you sound like youre nearly crying
I was a little frustrated at the time but I assure you my voice is just a bit gravelly like that
Am I the only one who gets really affected by so many youtubers getting caught? I'm afraid I did or said something wrong as well even if I'm a minor and only shared art
I've had a video blow up before (nothing this serious, redesign challenge) so i can attest that this is working and it is amazing. Now if only my instagram would blow up too...
You oppose smaller content creators making videos on Synni03 when you have 1k less subscribers than me. Which is hypocritical.
I completely agree! I even state in the video I am being hypocritical, but the intention of this video was not to cover the Synnibear03 situation but to comment on the issues within the community regarding these kinds of claims using the current situation as an example. I state in the video that there is no issue with producing content around a situation assuming it is transformative and you are providing new ideas to a situation. I only oppose videos that are uninformed and provide no new insight or information :)
Also, congrats on your subscriber count!
Sub count is not directly connected to video quality. A bunch of kids making videos with the same information and shouting “I was her fan!” When they never really interacted with her are not good videos. This is an actual commentary video.
@@rowan-priince1860 If you actually watched this uploaded video, the uploaded was giving cherry picking favorites by giving exceptions to bigger TH-cam. Yet she actively and hypocritically opposes anyone with a smaller audience making a video despite them having 1k and probably being known now because they have 1k.
@@MrMagistralMalik I didn’t say I agree with every assertion. I said it was a commentary video that did not just regurgitate information. You missed the part where they said that the channel should be larger(I disagree) OR have extensive knowledge of the situation (I agree)