The Kulture Study: (G)I-DLE "LION" MV
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Something else very interesting that someone poited out a long time ago (i dont remember were i saw it) but it was how their outfits throught the MV become more royal (in every chorus) they start off with the bland one tone dresses then the second chorus they have their more modern outfits with the fur and stuff and at the end they are in the red royal dresses, its like they are moving up through the hierarchy
If I remember correctly, I think it was explained in a bts clip. The first look is poor peasant, the second look is them in warrior gear and the final is when they're royalty. It goes in line with the queen story before their performance on Queendom :)
I was looking for this comment! Was going to point out the same thing :D
This and also I thought of it like they are queens no matter if they are peasants, warriors or actually royalty. Like they are queens no matter their circumstances.
Someone else on the Internet also pointed out that they do not wear crowns until Minnie sings the part "the young lion takes his crown", that is a very artistic move !!!
@@raneyheart Do you have a link?
it's funny how idle didn't win queendom with this song but it's literally the anthem of the entire show, not to mention it got the most streams and even charting for so long in korea??
As PD once said “ IDLE is THE Girl Group “
oooh where and when? :D
FallyingHigh it was in one of PD’s patreon videos. Forgot which one exactly.
FallyingHigh search kollective crew on TH-cam around 33.0.
@@FallyingHigh kollective crew
Are there anyone impress by Soyeon’s breathe after her rap? It’s so LION
Tammi I get goosebumps
She the fastest kpop female rapper
But she does want to do the flow only
1:Soyeon (g)idle
2:Jennie BlackPink
When
@@luckyrage1000 then Chaeyoung is the 3rd fastest rapper?
Samee
She is actually kind of a genuis. Yes, yes she is....
Another interesting point on this M/V: from what one of the production folks said in an interview right after the M/V dropped, the time from when CUBE gave the green light to make the video (independent of MNet and Queendom) to release was just over one week. PD could speak MUCH better than I could about how difficult that is but from what the interview said it was essentially a round-the-clock race to have the M/V ready to drop three days after the Queendom finale. Clearly Soyeon had already sketched out many ideas (which we saw during the "Lion" pre-roll on Queendom), and they cut corners with simple sets (all except the final staircase which was very green screened) and costuming (the middle outfits were all designer clothes rented for a few days) but as PD says, the production company was able to focus on elements that really stood out, like Soojin's scar makeup and the afore-mentioned green screen set. The CG lions near the end definitely showed the shoestring nature of the video (lesson to groups: don't do cheap CG in MV's. Just in the 1.3 seconds they're on screen they're obviously fake, and I feel like using the backup dancers there would have been far better) but for the most part everyone pulled off an excellent video in an amazingly short amount of time.
CUBE's decision to make the video proved visionary in that it really added rocket fuel to a song that was already well-received on Queendom, and made it a powerful and memorable capstone to (G)I-DLE's 2019 (and continues to be fertile ground for Soyeon to play in with two different and excellent stage presentations at the end-of-the-year shows...)
The tiny CG lions were hilarious to me, but even without knowing the context of the shooting conditions it didn't take from how much I liked the MV. It's always nice knowing some bts stories like you mentioned tho, so thanks.
Mouâd Serhane Animals...especially with fur...are among the hardest things to get right in CG. Even Game of Thrones - with its huge budget - sidelined the dire wolves largely because it was so difficult and costly to do well. Needless to say, even top-shelf MVs don’t have a GoT level budget. Rocket Punch’s debut MV used a CG big cat and even though it was better than the ones in “Lion”, it still was obviously uncanny-valley fake. Using the dancers in “Lion” as stand-in lions was a great choice - they should have just stuck with it throughout the video...
I loved the music video but, yeah... I definitely noticed the budget cuts and found those small lions quite amusing. If I were to be nit picky, I honestly thought it would have been a lot better if they didn't show us the actual lions. That would have saved them some time and money, and the symbolism of them being as fierce as lions would given off a much more powerful effect.
However, I think it's neat that they used some of their budgets in a rather clever way. Particularly the scenes where the girls danced in nothing but beige clothes, their hairs down, and their background dancers. It shows their wild side, them as actual lions surrounded by their pride members. It's a big contrast to their more detailed and colorful scenes of the girls sitting alone in regal clothing and framed behind a portrait -- a life of luxury but a caged one, much like the one Soyeon is literally trapped in.
Yes! The dancers in costume would have been a better decision than the cgi Lions. Nice call back to Queendom stage.
@@karisaysthings I don't think it was so much budget cuts - I suspect the budget wasn't dramatically less than for "Uh-Oh", for example. But the time constraints forced them to focus how they spent the money: dancers, the rented designer fits, the green screen set, CG lions, and, probably, overtime for all the staff who had to work around the clock to get the M/V done. But considering the boost the M/V gave to "Lion" and (G)I-DLE coming out of Queendom, I'd say CUBE definitely made the right call giving the green light!
PD knows WAY more about video production than I do, so PD, if you're reading this and have more to add please do!
Genius Soyeon
Baddie Soojin
Yes I feel this in my bones
Soyeon mama
This was the best thing to come out of Queendom, This is indisputable .
I have to disagree, it's an awesome song but Oh My Girl and Mamamoo made wavessss
@@legionofmusic1209 no, no songs is better than the other. Its his/her opinion so is your statement.
@@jadonmejia3278 sweetie, that's the point of saying I disagree. He tried to state it as fact, so I replied with an opinion.
@Foxglove i also love with what other artists has shown in queendom but for my opinion lion has stay with me after all performances and that was for me and so i can say that lion was the best. And maybe that's the same with the op above. But yeah definitely mamamoo was great too alongside with the others.
I really grew attached to OMG through queendom. I believe Guerrila was the best performance, but everyone has a reason and opinion and it's all valid!
It is odd that I-dle’s best song of the year, imo, was made for Queendom instead of an album.
Don't worry...The next comeback album is on the horizon & it'll be a BOP cuz I have trust in Soyeon! 💪
It was to bring them attention which it definitely did in Korea. If you watch their recent performance at Gaon Chart Awards the screams from the crowd are deafening!! It got the job done!! If it was just a comeback only Neverlands would appreciate it
STAN G-I-DLE LOSERS :* Good point. I love that so many have placed this song on their best of 2019.
You mean ethnic-hip?
I think because the concept does not fit the purpose of G-IDLE cbs.
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"Okay so each set has a meaning. They also match the lyrics they sing.
Minnie - lion hunted and put in a museum
Soyeon - lion in a cage trying to break free
Soojin - hurt lion painted and de-clawed
Miyeon - lion made into an art piece with daggers
Yuqi - lion made into a "god" by humans
Shuhua - lion put on display as a fashion piece.
You see a glimpse of the lion on top of the platform Minnie was sitting on and there's a shot of the lion painted and glorified but Soojin was lying in front of it hurt and wounded. The changing aspect ratios too, if you saw has a gold border when they were alone, like a cage. When discussing the concept, Soyeon said she wanted to portray that even when lions are caged (or hunted for art or fashion or deified), they are still majestic kings of the jungle.
In the first chorus, they were wearing simple dresses and then war clothes and then finally they were wearing queen-ly outfits with the crown. There's a story to that in the live performance. When they sat on the "hyenas" it's to announce that they're "king of the jungle". It was interesting because Soyeon said lions are kings, but she wanted to show that queens are on the same level and capability, therefore Lion instead of saying Lioness which is the correct way to refer to female lions."
blood mary I think in M/V.It supposed to like like they all in museum like just look at 2nd chorus
Put this in the top comment
It's so symbolic, how that rapper girl (I don't know their names yet) in the cage is still a queen and strong like a lion. It shows women all around the world who are engaged by the society but they are still standing strong keeping their heads up high like royalty. Also the girl in the beginning where the arrows are shaped like a crown. It's like how society throws arrows at us trying to take us down but we use them as our crowns making us stronger.
(G)I-dle just keep on improving. I love the sinuouse movements of all the dancers and members throughout the video, the savanna colours, red, gold, blue, brown, the fantastic music and lyrics. This is just so special.
Azaa0
in the behind the scenes of the lion mv, it was revealed that soyeon also worked on the set design!
This song and mv is just a masterpiece, period . Thank you Soyeon for this present .
Fun tidbit of informantion. (G)I-DLE went straight from recording the finale of Queendom to film this MV. They must have been so tired.
wrong information, after the queendom performance they filmed mcountdown not the MV. MV was filmed about a week earlier.
NanoPIX is right. Shooting for the video wrapped up on Minnie's birthday.
This is actually one of my favorite songs of 2019 , I think it was just god tier in every way
Finally my SOTY! Seriously, the concept is just so solid the whole way through.
Idk if you've read the lyrics, but they actually made me tear up a little bit. Not that they're sad, but man I'm just so fucking proud of this group.
I think the lyrics make me think of both I-DLE and Ateez. They don't fit your standards. They're loud, wild, in your face, and rambunctious. And they're coming for ya. Soyeon's verse was a hunting lion, and she got her kill.
I fucking love this group. The best female rapper who doesn't keep doing the same shit because it bores her, two of my favorite vocal colors in K-pop with Minnie and Yuqi, one of the most beautiful women in K-pop in Miyeon as the main vocalist, one of the baddest bitches on the stage in Soojin, and one of the coolest women in Shuhua. Seriously, even though she's the youngest and acts silly, she's one of the more thoughtful and self-empowered women in the game.
It only goes up. It has to. There's no way you can deny this group what they're owed.
Omg your comment made me really happy as a hardcore Neverland
Neverland atiny let's rise
I really wish for a collab seriously like imagine idle and ateez on the same stage
@@zemouraanis4108 sophomore and rookie monarchs. World domination coming soon*
Just proves how hardcore of a Neverland you are, Bravo! 💜
Together Stronger with our Leader Soyeon... 💪🔥😎
❤️❤️❤️
Funny how you were saying how addicting the chorus was while I started singing prior to that comment. This was my favorite KPop song of 2019. Everything about this song was perfect.
Soyeon is definitely a genius!!!!
Louder for those in the back! ;)
Ethnic hip for the win.
@@newbiechu7024 exactly. Cause we ain't no snowflakes out here❤️❤️❤️
@@newbiechu7024 keep supporting Nevermind 💜
Like PD said, the whole video serves the concept. There are so many little touches that symbolize the theme of a lion/queen maintaining their "sharp claws" (their dignity, ferocity, etc.) even though they are being attacked, even when they're caged. The way they're framed so often in borders like the oval picture frame, the arrows surrounding them, even the changing aspect ratio - every time the narrow borders are used, the members are by themselves. Whenever the members are together though, they're always shown in a full frame, as if to say they are stronger, unbound, when they are together.
i've waited for this reaction so long
I’d be lion if I said I didn’t love this reaction. Your analysis is on point, as usual.
The door is that way.➡
Kimberly Allen HJSHSJ NO IT WAS ACTUALLY KINDA GOOD AHAHA
dont know If you know, but Soyeon (being Soyeon) decided to be an assistant in the making of the MV, When Ryu Sera said she was like a label in herself she was not lying :)
Give her Channel a view (former leader (i think) of 9muses) and to PD Thank you the journey with you for queendom was so good, and now even more :D will you do a Listening to I made? (or I am you did one but couldnt find the other) :)
He did the I Made Listening Party but everything recorded was corrupted and lost :( I waited for that too, but I do believe that the general consensus was that he liked the album, I don't know if he loved it, but he liked it. At least that is what I heard.
New here. Who is PD?. There's a lot of comments mentioning PD here.
@@JohnDoe._. the channel creator, PD for producer
Yea, watched the other react video he introduce himself as PD didn't notice it while watching this one. Thanks tho :)
I don't think I've ever agreed with you more, lol. Seriously, like, I didn't like Senorita at all and I remember how much you raved about it. I'm not even a (G)I-DLE fan but I loved every second of both the song and MV. For me, Lion was hands down the best girl group MV of the year. As you said, everything just works, every aspect of it just pushes forward the concept and it proves you don't necessarily need a super huge budget to make art.
Not gonna lie, Jeon Soyeon might've just made me dive into kpop girl groups again (most of which I used to write off as 'not for me') and see what else I'm missing.
You may wanna dive into Idle's full discography. "I am" and "I made".
They are literally composed of such different songs that you are guaranteed to find more to your liking...
you should check out their song Put It Straight, one of the b-sides from I Made (actually check out all their b-sides) but also watch their Put It Straight Nightmare Performance from Queendom. It's incredible! th-cam.com/video/TorT6Rgl-Kc/w-d-xo.html
lastly fun fact, Lions are Matriarchal (probably spelled that wrong), A "Lion King" is a misnomer, since the prides are organized by a "Queen Lion" Males are more nomadic in Lion Culture (only needed for the one thing plus defense against other males (and hunting along with the females)) not a feminist rant, but the whole line Queen Like A Lion makes a lot of sense, as the true nature its Lion Queen, the world views it as Lion King, but thats just wrong.... King like a Lion would be an oxymoron (YES!!! GOT TO USE THAT WORD IN A SENTENCE)
Wow, I just knew this! Thank you for that.
In short, female lions need more credit. They are basically MVP of the pride. No hunter = no food = starving, even the strongest males can't stand against hunger.
Lions are not matriarchal. The male rules over the pride and has children with all the females. That’s blatantly false
R It’s not false at all, lions in the pride do live in a matriarchal society. Female lions are the ones who lead hunts most of the time and provide food for their pride. The male lions are only responsible of protecting the pride and teaching cubs how to survive.
@@user-uf6qn2vy1v did u not watch Lion King dude
All I can think about was... Oh can't wait for his reacting on soyeon part
hi ☺️
PD is transgender MTF so they do not identify with male pronouns ♡
im sure not many people know so i always make sure to reply in case i see male pronouns in the comments for the benefit of PD and their viewers ♡
Ok what am I suppose to used sorry
kpop for life they/them or she/her ♡
@@habibea Since when was PD trans? O.o
Isabella Berrios you can see it in the FormOfTherapy channel bio :)
The dynamics blew me away, from Minnie's whisper to the huge tribal drum groove.
'king like nature of the lion' soyeon literally talked about how lions are pretty matriarchal animals and that's one of the reasons she chose lions... the queen like nature of lions
Thank you for being the one reactor that didn't talk through Minnie's high notes, and actually appreciated her. BTW, 3YE reaction please!
The first week after Lion MV released I was checking PD-nim's channel everyday for reaction DX not even mad, immediately clicked XD
never clicked so fast, thank you pd
Me too, such a masterpiece 💓
Thanks PD you truly understand, and appreciate G-idle, Soyeon! This song was not a comeback but according to billboard it was number 9 on best kpop songs of 2019. Also can't wait for their comeback!
i'm sooooo glad pd mentioned minnie as the stand out member in this comeback, like, it's shocking how good her performance was
React to Red Velvet - Psycho
PS: The MV and Audio version are different
Yaaasss pls
Ohhh I didn't know they were different...
They’re different?!!!!
avatargrimes I’m so mad they are different, the MV version is better
Adam Joseph What are y’all talking about?
(G)I-DLE is the best and my favorite Kpop group. LOVE that you love them ❤
2019: In like a butterfly, out like a lion.Great year.
I liked the video and pretty much a lot of things that PD said. BUT, I completely disagree in the Miyeon portion of his opinions. This is not her limit. She is one of the main vocalists of (G)i-dle, having the exactly same role as Minnie. Although their title tracks didn't have a nice moment for her yet (even Minnie got only on Lion), if you listen to their bsides, you'll see her actual potential. I think she has, if not the same, almost equal range as Minnie, and both are powerful vocals, but Miyeon it isn't showing on title tracks yet. You can hear on Maze, on Hear Me, on What's your name, on Put it Straight or even the Help Me (an OST). I do not think she did badly, as kinda of implied in the video. And I don't agree that they are doing ""great use of her vocals" (I mean, I can understand the harmonization of her soft voice with the other voices, but I'm talking about potential), she has a lot to show on their title tracks, she isn't a visual, she is a main vocalist. And I strongly recommend to listen to their bsides and listen to her soft and angelic, yet strong, voice.
YES!
very much agree. im hoping for the next comeback, itll showcase miyeon more. since i feel like she is the only one who has not yet done an intro
i totally agree with you, she have a powerful vocal, but they aren't using it on the singles/tracks only on b-sides that only the fans listen. It's kinda complicated, but i hope that someday they will start to give her the vocals that she deserves.
it's kinda wrong to say that Miyeon don't have potential to sing more than she is signing right now. I agree with you Moreno, she have more space on b-sides than in singles, it's kinda sad knowing that she can do more, but never actually seeing she singing something that really fits her voice. She deserve better. ALSO IF YOU LOOK FOR MU:CON 2016 MIYEON singing live with a 2AM guy, it's really nice hear her voice and her powerful vocal and potential, I'd like to see that when she's performing with (G)i-dle, but they don't show it to us, this really made me believe that they aren't showing all they got. I hope they start to do it, I'd love to see Miyeon showing her high notes like she did back in 2016 at Mu:Con
Miyeon deserves more than she got right now! I hope this PD can see it, cause she got an amazing voice and her technic it's really impressive, it's a strong voice, and i really love how she sing Hear Me, she showed some really sweet vocals on this song.
One of the other aspects of the video are the frames. You could interpret the frames at cages for their images, as women and idols.
Minnie's frame at the start has her both "in the frame" as the subject but also apart from it. Perhaps a reference to her "foreigner" status?
Miyeon's with the arrow points surrounding her could be attacks from antis and other against her and all the members actually.
Yuqi's shot where she's singing about looking into her eyes and they zoom in through the frame around her (like an eye) with - as you mentioned - a halo to depict her "innocence" which she can transform into a mane of power.
Soyeon's cage is also framing her to a degree as well and there are numerous shots which are pillarboxed with gold borders to frame the members also.
Then after Soyeon unleashes the beast we see Miyeon and Yuqi's frames on fire, Minnie has been replaced by an actual (CG) MALE lion and they ascend the stairs in their royal red outfits wearing crowns.
Finally, Soojin lies cat-like in front of a MASSIVE picture of a MALE lion which is on fire. The patriarchy is huge but (G)I-DLE are here to burn it down and claim their thrones as powerful women!
I can't wait for the album coming out soon if this is literally just a taste of what could come
Finalllllllyyyyy 😭😭😭😭😭 also i was smiling the whole time that PD finally knows all their names !!😂😂
And he said it himself "soyeon's kind of a genius" 💜💜😂
In one of the behind the scenes videos that cube releases of Idle, they celebrated Minnie's birthday, which falls on 23 October, while the shooting was going on. This music video was released on 3rd of November. How did they manage to release such an awe-inspiring MV in 10 to 12 days will forever amaze me.
I feel like I’ve waited for this all my life
ONEUS & GIDLE having best rappers of 2019
Ateez. Skz.
Yesss, ateez and stray kids
purpl mono. Lol txt and bts are better
@@ooooo- i personally dont really stan txt, and yeonjun would prolly be my bias, but 'rappers' write their own rap. bts, (g)i-dle, oneus, ateez, and stray kids all write their own songs and rap. txt are good idol rappers, like how people say blackpink are good idol rappers, but they are not really, like, real rappers.
YEOSANGELᅳ I see what you mean but if someone raps whether they wrote it or not they are rappers in my opinion.
Soyeon is really a Genius
I respect her so much
Another point, soyeon somewhere mentioned it was somewhat about her as well when she wrote the song. If you watch the MV, she is the only member who doesnt have a shot wearing an actual crown which, combined with her rap lyrics, i like to think its about nobody can or should dare judge and crown her as her and herself only will crown herself with her own powers and talents.
If you don't stan these queens: (G) I-DLE then I suggest you guys should raise your standards.
PD can now pronounce Shuhua name.
Yuqi: Oh my gosh❗️🙀
Minnie's voice is the highlight in this song and her visuals powerful Lion
Really happy you finally did a video on this. Awesome to see Soyeon getting so much recognition. She's so multi-talented.
You know PD loves it when it’s a almost 20 min video🥰🥰 and yesssss GIDLE FOREVER
I also really love how soyeon’s caged part is so reminiscent of sia’s elastic heart mv. Such a powerful aesthetic imo.
Pd already know their names...what a pleasant surprise :").
one of the best songs of all time in (G)I-DLE era!
I've been waiting for this since forever. Glad it finally happened
Love the reaction PD uwu
Not only is the song one of the year's best, but the MV is one of the year's best too. It's so visually and aesthetically appealing, and honestly the entire comeback is nothing short of stunning.
I love this song so much and Mv is so breathtaking . Really hope they do a similar concepts for their next comeback . They are improving so much on each of their’s comeback . Their stage presence is so amazing .❤️❤️ I love them so much .
So glad you're watching g(idle) much love
In my opinion, sure Lion will be BOP if its a comeback. But i think its worthy bc Queendom participants are famous group/idol which is each of them has many fans and Queendom itself has many audiences/viewers. This LION is a great masterpiece to attracts those viewers/audiences to expose (G)I-DLE sharp claws through this show. And see after Queendom, (G)I-DLE got lots more of recognition. They are talented and genius.
this whole mv is like musical theater styled and I LOVE IT so much
WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS PD!!! THANK YOUUUUUU
Finally!!!! I WAS WAITING FOR THIS ALL THE TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
Thanks for this reaction
this was worth waiting for~ I've been looking forward since the mv dropped. thank you!
I've been waiting on this for so long!!
PD this is SUCH a good analysis! I really enjoyed it and I love how you focused in on individual elements during the second watch. 💜
Loved this MV. Very few songs and videos work so well together. Absolutely a piece of art, just stunning.
I’m here from ONEUS and GIDLE and I may say I always have to wait for these jewels to be praised for such a good work in these reactions but it’s worth it. Thank you again
Finally!! I waited so long for your reaction. I’m gonna watch it now 💕
I’ve been waiting for your reaction for SOOOOOOOO long. Thank you so much for finally reacting to it💜❤️
*WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!*
I HAVE BEEN WAITING AND SEARCHING FOR THIS. OMG.
Thank you for this reaction, it was all we have waited for ^_^
Yay! Thankyou! I've been patiently waiting, thankyou again pd! ❤
As soon as I checked this group out and this song. I was thinking I needed your reaction on this!!! because a lot of times you make me appreciate stuff more because you know so much more about this than me!!! Loved the song and video right away though! it's so badass!!
YOU DON'T KNOW HOW LONG I'VE WAITED FOR THIS!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!
Thank you waited so long for your reaction of Lion. Love this song so much.
Edit: Happy to see that you finally remember all the members name. ^^
Finally. Ive been waiting for weeks. Thank you
FINALLY!!! Thank you pd for reacting to them
Finalllllllyyyyy!after two months you reacted to this MV
Absolutely love the song and your reaction PD too, added so many layers of substance into Idles music.
Yes yes yessssss i've been waiting for this for sooooooo long!!!
I'm proud of this rookie self-made gg
Finalllly!!!!!!! Yessss been waiting for this.
Finally, I've been waiting for your reaction to their MV.. Your reaction and analyzation never disappoints..
Yessss Shuhua really sounds good when she does the ayy oh
FINALLY IVE BEEN WAITING FOR SO LONG YAYYYY
OMG I was so waiting for this reaction. 😄
PD needs to watch minnie's cover of gravity!
Oh boi have I been waiting for this reaction, couldn't have started off 2020 in a better way ❤️
I've waited for a long time for your reaction! 😍😍😍
shuhua getting lines
dude u have no idea how much I love ur videos.
Please do a reaction to Red Velvet Psycho!
I AM WAITING FOR THIS LONG LONG LONG TIME AGO!
Finallyyyy! Thanks PD-nim! 🤘❤
The Phenomenal reaction that we truly waited 😍
Tbh this mv was in my "watch later" list because I was busy and blah blah, but when I finally saw it Wow! It was amazing, the emotion and strength and pathos that it conveys really are well done. Defently on the top videos of 2019.
Finally I been waiting 2 months for this
Thank you PD! we love it!!!!