Thanks for taking us on a tractor trip. Unfortunately when I bought my tractor in 2021 there were very few tractors for sale, Covid lockdowns and all that crap was on. Fortunately I’m happy with the tractor I bought and even better I have just about paid it off.
The ergonomics of the New Holland and LS tractors with all the important stuff easy to reach up on the right hand side looks really good. Just need to be able to swivel the seat a few degrees for watching rear implements and they would be the gold standard👍🏼
One characteristic that is important to me is the sound level in the cabs. I have a db meter that I take with me when I test equipment. It would be a nice addition to your nice reviews. I could hear the hydro whine when you moved the boomer. Was it loud in your opinion? I am looking for a new 55-60hp tractor so this was helpful.
Interesting. I have the LS MT357. It's interesting to see you experience this tractor, as there are some subtle, maybe blurred differences. As you say, this is a New Holland model, of LS manufacture and lineage. Clearly, the loader is different, and this NH had an additional rear-view mirror inside the cab. My LS has the outside 3-pt control lever, draft control, and linked throttle -- all of which you found and remarked to be missing. It also has 3 rear remotes. I got mine during the Covid supply-chain time. They had tractors to deliver, but were short on tires. After some time to wait, mine arrived with R1 tires. The most notable difference floored me. My LS cost me $15,000 less than this NH.
The down side to the bucket being so far out front is the leverage the load has on the tractor. Notice the small dirt load would cause the rear wheels to come off the ground......LEVERAGE!!!
@@kendrury3713 You don't get it.....ballast and weights help and so does a rd. bale of hay on the back, but some of these loader buckets are way out in front of the tractor. It's simple physics.....Brock even noted in the video the difference in loader bucket locations. As a former crane operator, we used the example, when picking up a load is like dancing , you want your partner as close to you as possible.
Here they run front snow blowers and then in spring run a front broom/sweeper on the yards around town to get the gravel out of the grass when the snow melts
I have enjoyed your tractor tour. I was thinking of changing my line up. Considered a skid steer until I got a quote on one. Prices In Canada are way higher than what you are saying. I did sell my B265O yesterday and purchased a L3560. It’s a big jump for me. Tractor is twice the size. I stayed with Kubota for the simple reason of dealer location and the insurance they offer. It’s a big sell point for me. I believe they all make good products but dealer location and customer service makes a big difference when buying. Thanks.
These comparison videos are great as I am hoping to by my first tractor in the near future. In my mind I'm thinking more towards the TYM an Kioti as I have dealers in close proximity to me. But I'm open to anything as long as I find the right deal. Thanks again an have a great day from VA.
Howdy Brock! So many tractors... so little money... 🤣 This is a nice series on the different tractor brands. Learning a bunch. Well done and thanks for sharing 🤠
Hi Brock. On that Boomer turn the mid pto lever on and see if you can free spin the rear pto? On my LS I can not. When I engage the mid pto the rear pto stays engaged as well. One of my few complaints about my tractor.
That is good information. I was making an assumption because on my John Deere, I can engage one or the other or neither and free spin them. One of the tractors I was on has a manual disengage so that you can spend the rear PTO. I thought it was the LS.
@@RockhillfarmYT I’m curious how that Boomer pto works. Mine is rear only or front and rear together. I have no way to disengage the rear. It really sucks to not be able to disengage it. To help with that I installed an over running pto clutch on the rear.
@dustinslanec6747 it’s almost the exact same tractor as the LS. I bet it functions the same way, but I can’t say for sure. I don’t have access to it anymore to find out
I’ll preface this by saying I’ve always been a “cash” guy. That being said, please don’t discount inflation when considering whether to finance. I’m in the final stages of purchasing a tractor in the size range you’re considering. On a $60K deal, the cash saving I’m seeing is somewhere less than $5k on up to an 84 month note. I’m guessing my dollars that I’m paying payments with over the next 60, 72, or even 84 months will be worth far less than they are today. I’ll probably keep my cash invested, use someone else’s money, and pay over time. Heck, I’m currently getting 5.4% a money market account. Personally, I think the manufacturers should be offering better cash discounts in our current money environment.
This is a much better option with Ag equipment than it is vehicles - You're hit by the big insurance companies that want full collision when you lease it , if you own it flat out you can insure it for a lower cost if you choose. Pretty nice racket they've got set up between the banks, auto dealers, and insurance companies IMO.
Agreed but you just have to push harder. Just traded a WM 75 for a WM 95 with 21.9 option gpm. Got $7700 cash discount AND $7700 in product discount from dealer. Skinny deal for them but I’ll pay cash to save $7700 although 0% financing is attractive. The price delta didn’t save me money in the long run but it may for others.
Brock, thank you for making this video series!!! This is very helpful as I am actively searching for my next tractor. I don't get what the computer controlled speed-control feature is supposed to do for you on the Boomer machine. What advantages does that give you?
I was talking to someone about it today. it basically maintains your RPMs if you are mowing a field and you go through thicker grass or up a hill, which would bog down your engine, it will automatically compensate for that
Another technological feature that is unneeded and likely to cause issue down the road.. At least just in my opinion (I am sick of computer controlled anything on my tractors)
I don’t remember the lift capacity exactly. I like the design of the loader sticking out further and it has really nice reinforcement The LS loader lifted more. I think it is 2700 pounds vs 2300
Well, that’s definitely not a permanent change. It’s a series that last about three weeks. It’s the most popular series of videos I’ve ever done Though
I’m surprised the top of the line YT359 Yanmar is actually cheaper than the one he just showcased in this video. Can still get pretty good deals on 2023 models. That whiney hydrostatic trans is aweful to me and makes me very thankful for the ihmt trans.
Ok Brock, as much as I have enjoyed this entire series, you are killing me. What is YOUR new tractor? Patience has never been a strength of mine, I must know!!!!
I have looked at all of these tractors before purchasing a 4 series can JD. The new holland is an LS, but the loaders are different. The new holland loader sticks out further as you noted and thus lifts much higher than the LS. Check out the specs. You mentioned the new holland loader being made much stronger, i agree. I actually bent my JD 4720 loader slightly. As you will find out. Its hard to not purchase a TYM 574.
You should buy Mike Morgan’s MX5400 ! He doesn’t use it anymore lol , tell me when the last time it was seen in one of his videos, and he didn’t even show it when Neil messing was at his property .
Thanks for taking us on a tractor trip. Unfortunately when I bought my tractor in 2021 there were very few tractors for sale, Covid lockdowns and all that crap was on. Fortunately I’m happy with the tractor I bought and even better I have just about paid it off.
The ergonomics of the New Holland and LS tractors with all the important stuff easy to reach up on the right hand side looks really good. Just need to be able to swivel the seat a few degrees for watching rear implements and they would be the gold standard👍🏼
Another great comparison in this series. I’m really enjoying these. Thanks Brock
Good video Brock! You are excellent with these comparisons.
He really does a great job.
Thanks Brock, that was a good comparison of the workmaster 55. Thanks for showing us. I haven't been around many of those.
One characteristic that is important to me is the sound level in the cabs. I have a db meter that I take with me when I test equipment. It would be a nice addition to your nice reviews.
I could hear the hydro whine when you moved the boomer. Was it loud in your opinion? I am looking for a new 55-60hp tractor so this was helpful.
Hey Brock, NH Boomer has the best loader for my farm, when its time to load or unload trailers, put up hay etc. the Kubota stays in the barn.
Great information. Precise, informative and educational information Brock. Thanks.
Interesting. I have the LS MT357. It's interesting to see you experience this tractor, as there are some subtle, maybe blurred differences. As you say, this is a New Holland model, of LS manufacture and lineage.
Clearly, the loader is different, and this NH had an additional rear-view mirror inside the cab.
My LS has the outside 3-pt control lever, draft control, and linked throttle -- all of which you found and remarked to be missing. It also has 3 rear remotes. I got mine during the Covid supply-chain time. They had tractors to deliver, but were short on tires. After some time to wait, mine arrived with R1 tires.
The most notable difference floored me. My LS cost me $15,000 less than this NH.
The down side to the bucket being so far out front is the leverage the load has on the tractor. Notice the small dirt load would cause the rear wheels to come off the ground......LEVERAGE!!!
Ballast is all you need like any tractor
@@kendrury3713 You don't get it.....ballast and weights help and so does a rd. bale of hay on the back, but some of these loader buckets are way out in front of the tractor. It's simple physics.....Brock even noted in the video the difference in loader bucket locations. As a former crane operator, we used the example, when picking up a load is like dancing , you want your partner as close to you as possible.
Not disagreeing, I own Boomers 55 and with the right ballast I don't have any issues.
Here they run front snow blowers and then in spring run a front broom/sweeper on the yards around town to get the gravel out of the grass when the snow melts
I own a workmaster 75 (had it for a year) and i love it very strong does anything i ask of it
Hey Brock, have you ever tested R14 tires? I searched your videos for R14 and I didn't see any matches come up.
I have enjoyed your tractor tour. I was thinking of changing my line up. Considered a skid steer until I got a quote on one. Prices In Canada are way higher than what you are saying. I did sell my B265O yesterday and purchased a L3560. It’s a big jump for me. Tractor is twice the size. I stayed with Kubota for the simple reason of dealer location and the insurance they offer. It’s a big sell point for me. I believe they all make good products but dealer location and customer service makes a big difference when buying. Thanks.
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These comparison videos are great as I am hoping to by my first tractor in the near future. In my mind I'm thinking more towards the TYM an Kioti as I have dealers in close proximity to me. But I'm open to anything as long as I find the right deal. Thanks again an have a great day from VA.
Howdy Brock! So many tractors... so little money... 🤣 This is a nice series on the different tractor brands. Learning a bunch. Well done and thanks for sharing 🤠
Hi Brock. On that Boomer turn the mid pto lever on and see if you can free spin the rear pto? On my LS I can not. When I engage the mid pto the rear pto stays engaged as well. One of my few complaints about my tractor.
That is good information. I was making an assumption because on my John Deere, I can engage one or the other or neither and free spin them.
One of the tractors I was on has a manual disengage so that you can spend the rear PTO. I thought it was the LS.
@@RockhillfarmYT I’m curious how that Boomer pto works. Mine is rear only or front and rear together. I have no way to disengage the rear. It really sucks to not be able to disengage it. To help with that I installed an over running pto clutch on the rear.
@dustinslanec6747 it’s almost the exact same tractor as the LS. I bet it functions the same way, but I can’t say for sure.
I don’t have access to it anymore to find out
I’ll preface this by saying I’ve always been a “cash” guy. That being said, please don’t discount inflation when considering whether to finance. I’m in the final stages of purchasing a tractor in the size range you’re considering. On a $60K deal, the cash saving I’m seeing is somewhere less than $5k on up to an 84 month note. I’m guessing my dollars that I’m paying payments with over the next 60, 72, or even 84 months will be worth far less than they are today. I’ll probably keep my cash invested, use someone else’s money, and pay over time. Heck, I’m currently getting 5.4% a money market account. Personally, I think the manufacturers should be offering better cash discounts in our current money environment.
Agree with you 100% 👍🏻
This is a much better option with Ag equipment than it is vehicles - You're hit by the big insurance companies that want full collision when you lease it , if you own it flat out you can insure it for a lower cost if you choose. Pretty nice racket they've got set up between the banks, auto dealers, and insurance companies IMO.
Buy lightly used with cash.
Agreed but you just have to push harder. Just traded a WM 75 for a WM 95 with 21.9 option gpm. Got $7700 cash discount AND $7700 in product discount from dealer. Skinny deal for them but I’ll pay cash to save $7700 although 0% financing is attractive. The price delta didn’t save me money in the long run but it may for others.
Another great video Brock!👍🏻
Thanks
Crazy price increases in only 2 years. I purchased the Workmaster 65 in 2022 for low 40's
How long does warranty cover all the electronic components
Which company manufactures the engines on these tractors? Auto level loaders?
Brock, thank you for making this video series!!! This is very helpful as I am actively searching for my next tractor.
I don't get what the computer controlled speed-control feature is supposed to do for you on the Boomer machine. What advantages does that give you?
I was talking to someone about it today. it basically maintains your RPMs
if you are mowing a field and you go through thicker grass or up a hill, which would bog down your engine, it will automatically compensate for that
Another technological feature that is unneeded and likely to cause issue down the road..
At least just in my opinion (I am sick of computer controlled anything on my tractors)
Agreed
How do u like the boomer style loader and how much dose it lift
I don’t remember the lift capacity exactly. I like the design of the loader sticking out further and it has really nice reinforcement
The LS loader lifted more. I think it is 2700 pounds vs 2300
Great reach with those long loader arms, if you need it.
Did you like the LS 357 over that boomer 55 ?
They are the same tractor except the loader. It’s a lot cheaper to buy the tractor from LS.
I have wm37 its a beast and kubotas ant yanmars 😮
I watched your blog because it was informative but now it mostly tractor comparisons this might be interesting to others but not to me.
Well, that’s definitely not a permanent change. It’s a series that last about three weeks.
It’s the most popular series of videos I’ve ever done Though
Good comparisons.
I think the yanmar is truly an amazing tractor. Just don’t have dealers near me
I’m surprised the top of the line YT359 Yanmar is actually cheaper than the one he just showcased in this video. Can still get pretty good deals on 2023 models. That whiney hydrostatic trans is aweful to me and makes me very thankful for the ihmt trans.
You said the Kubouta L series has better 3pt lift...their website says under 3k. TYM 574 has 3800lbs.
I live in north east Ga and NewHolland has deserted us
Yes, James Short lost their New Holland dealership. We need a new dealer!
Ok Brock, as much as I have enjoyed this entire series, you are killing me. What is YOUR new tractor? Patience has never been a strength of mine, I must know!!!!
Any day now. I want to announce it, but I want to finish the series 1st.
I have looked at all of these tractors before purchasing a 4 series can JD.
The new holland is an LS, but the loaders are different. The new holland loader sticks out further as you noted and thus lifts much higher than the LS. Check out the specs.
You mentioned the new holland loader being made much stronger, i agree. I actually bent my JD 4720 loader slightly.
As you will find out. Its hard to not purchase a TYM 574.
You should buy Mike Morgan’s MX5400 ! He doesn’t use it anymore lol , tell me when the last time it was seen in one of his videos, and he didn’t even show it when Neil messing was at his property .
Kubota owns the Kubota tractors at the Morgan's. Morgan's own the mini-ex and skid steer.
You can't get it. Mike Morgan doesn't own the tractor's. They both belong to Kubota tractor company.
Great video God bless
The boomer is a a ls tractor the newholland t4s is a full new holland
This tractor seams to load easier than the bigger frame New Holland
The timing ia sucky on this, I'm going to miss the big reveal! Oh well, see ya when I get back!
Where are you going
@@RockhillfarmYT Just my yearly jaunt to the family farm to visit family. And do some morel mushroom hunting!
I hope that you at least try the Kubota before you keep bashing them.
Not a fan of the new holland tractors. Messy Ferguson just seems built better
I'm so tired of the term Boomer. I couldn't buy it based on the name :)
Its a better name than "bad boy" tractors
It's been named Boomer longer than the negative connotation got thrown in.
@@reggeckmann3993 Don't care, still doesn't work for me :)
OK boomer!
@@JCWrenPetty minded!