I think you're spot on with some of these gripes. You did hit the nail on the head, though. TYM's have more simplicity reflected in the cost. It's all a trade-off. Great video Brock
Probably could add one quite easily, a regular off the shelf oil temp gauge, and there's probably a location you could tap into on the hydraulic system to put the sensor. Probably less than a $50 modification, course you'd want to actually own the tractor first before doing any modifications, but aside from that it wouldn't be hard to do.
I have a tym 474. Im in Michigan. My priorities when buying it was being able to lift my 1500 pound round bales, having hydrostat so my wife would drive it, and having a heated cab for the winter. I had an open station massey before that I loved, but TYM was $18000 less money for a cab tractor than massey, john deere, or anyone els. If I trade tractors again, I will get 24 inch rear rims. THere is much larger selection of tires available in 24 inch rims for more liquid ballast capacity. THis tym is a little clunky. THe rear remote levers, like he said, are very short, and awkward to operate. My range selector doesnt move smoothly. The 3 point lever inside the cab is short and too close to the seat. Like I said, the tractor is a little clunky, but for the money, it does everything I want it to do. Im happy with it overall.
All the shortcomings many people mention with these tractors are the results of cost cutting....you saved $18,000 but did you really? No, you have several items that due to saving you money you have to awkwardly operate instead....so, maybe rather than everyone looking at the price of these tractors maybe actually see how the thing feels, all the controls work, pedal locations, lever locations, how smooth things work, etc. stop looking at the price tag, start looking at the features you may or may not be getting, and how clunky and awkward the machine is during operation....I'd rather pay more and get a machine that isn't so awkward to operate, and operates smoothly, and the controls operate smooth as well. Brock mentioned the loader is slow at idle, I think that's the case with every loader as the hydraulic pump isn't running at peak RPM to give you the loader speed you want or think you need....that's the problem with that auto throttle crap, sounds cool on paper but in reality its not worth it, set the throttle at the proper operating RPM for what you are doing and leave it alone you really aren't saving any fuel or time in the long run.
Hi there Brock. One of the things that make the T574 simplistic is the auto throttle is not a fly by wire system and has a physical connection that utilizes motion instead of switches. The only way to stop the auto throttle function is to disconnect the lever connector. The hand throttle uses a cable separately.
You are so correct about the skid steer attachment system. The JD hook & pin is by far the best for tractors. I am blind in 1 eye, ended up painting alifnment marks, that i can see with the camera mounted on the brush guard. As a last resort, sometimes i end up standing beside the Passenger side of the tractor, so i can work the pedals & joystick to hook up. It is unbelievable how important depth perception is to perform these simple tasks...
I appreciate that you keep it real with your likes and dislikes with your tractor Brock, respect. I'm also surprised that you've got 60 or so hours on that tractor already! You've only had it for a month or so, right? You're doing a lot of tractoring!!! 🙂
More than just semantics, there's a difference between a grill guard and a brush guard. The grill guard offers protection from front end collision damage when a loader is not present, whereas the brush guard protects from intrusion damage, as with grapple use. Why tractor manufacturers haven't gotten the message that we need a real tool box on these machines is beyond me.
I run a tym 394. I mow, blow snow, run a loader and do loader things and it’s great for me, the only thing is the, range selector is sticky when it’s cold out, so you have to move the tractor around to get it into gear which can be difficult or near impossible to get it out of small spaces when parked.
I'd definitely do some tint on that tractor. Not only does it look cool but it serves a big function too. And as far as the lights you could do led lights on the top front and back. A big curved led light bar on the front and back is awesome at night time when you get caught in the dark
I just bought the same tractor. JMHO, run the engine RPM up for the hydraulic pump performance to function for all loader work. Agree, don't like the non-brush grille, but I have trees and not hay fields, using a grapple primarily. Like the lift capacity being 2800 lbs'ish. I got a cloth TYM bag with my purchase and holds any tool, and bag sets behind seat. Not convenient but one isn't grabbing a tool every time you get in or out of tractor. Wish the SS lever were automated from inside the cab. That would be worth the money. Enjoy your day!
My thoughts only, I've had a lot of experience with tractors. The advantage of a manual transmission over hydrostatic is that you set your RPM and control ground speed by selecting the appropriate gear. As for auto throttle its not for me. I dare say a lot of people would disagree.
Just bought TYM 4820Ch. Very similar model to T574. Many small issues you listed here do not exist in "Branson" line of TYM. Just FYI if you want to compare and contrast.
I can see that happening on a lot of tractors where you can't see anything with the loader below hood level. But I like the SSQA a lot better than being stuck with a proprietary system like JD has. SSQA gives you a huge range of attachment options, where JD you are limited to what they sell, and what other companies are willing to build to fit the JD system.
I agree with the quick attach system, it's very hard to judge ( because you can't see ) where the attachment aligns with the implement. I would be happy if the peddles where switched with fwd being on the outside, it was hard to get used to it being where it is.
One solution to linked peddle is what I did , loosen the adjustment on the fuel pump so the auto throttle doesn’t come on as soon, tweek it how u like it
Except it isn't his tractor, so he's kind of stuck with what he has....one major downfall of getting stuff on loan for free, you probably can't be tweaking anything on the machines.
Yes i think everyone thinks if you have all the money in the world, JD is awesome. They have the control to create a better quick attach, better belly mower attach system, and im sure there are some other things they have a patent on. Other than the belly mower though i dont think their patents justify the price premium. For me there is a price/convenience line and JD is way over the line.
The deere quick attach is closer to the global style quick attach that's on bigger equipment... as you said it's easier to attach especially if you drop a bucket on un level terrain.
The linked pedal is because of the mechanical fuel pump. If you look on your fuel pump both hand throttle and foot pedal are connected to the same linkage arm. One of the down sides about have an all mechanical engine vs engine with ecm. If you don’t like the linked pedal take the throttle cable for that out. My tym 4820 is the same way I just leave it at half throttle doing loader work.
Someone said in the comments about being $18,000 less than Deere and Kubota (I think.) , that is huge savings. I could live with these minor complaints for 18 grand but I understand there are those that can peel off the green backs for any Tractor out there. I would save the bucks but everyone gets to choose. There are a plethora of makes, models and Brands on the Market. Get what you want.
I agree with the hydraulic temperature 10000%. I own a 2515 and have 20 hours already and ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT. IM 6'4 and I feel the tractor "cockpit" was build for me. I personally think you're grasping at split hairs on every other complaint you have. John deer doesn't deserve a comparison because of the 2-3 times the cost for a comparable tractor. 90% of your wish list complaints cost more to engineer and implement than anyone is willing to pay. Look at jogn deer for ex. That's why there's 3rd party aftermarket to custize how you want cheaper. Just my 2 worthless cents.
I too have a 574, much prefer the mechanical injection but didn't like auto throttle so I disabled it at the pump, fairly easy task. My biggest gripe, and you did not address it, is the proxemity of the loader joystick to my leg. Seems that every time I twist around to check on what is occurring with my rear mount impliment, I inadvertently bump the loader joystick and dump the bucket or drop the loader into the ground. Friends who I have permitted to operate the tractor have made the same observation. But I still love the tractor.
Brock, I don’t think it’s fair to compare the JD backhoe you have to the TYM backhoe. They’re completely different. One is a subframe and one is a 3 point hitch. The subframe has significant more power than a three point (one not on steroids, like yours). I’ve had both and will go subframe all day. While storage and installation is more difficult, I’d take the power every day. Thanks for the content!
I think there's three issues you missed. 1) The gear range is not ideal. In medium range, you have to really ramp up the RPMs to get any ground speed. High range lacks torque (as expected). I find the H/M/L range on the Kubota L4701 to be really good. I can leave that in medium nearly full time. On the 574, it's constantly switching between H and M. 2) There's no coast down when you take your foot off the throttle. It comes to a very sudden stop, almost as if you stood on the brakes. The Kubota transmissions have a little bit of coast down so you roll to a stop in a very short distance. 3) The TYM creeps at idle. If you don't want it to move, you've got to put the brake on or put in neutral. The Kubota transmissions don't do this. That being said, I don't have any regrets about the buying the 574, but it is a definite difference I notice. As far as the speed of the PTO and the auto-throttle and such, I don't have any experience with that. But it seems to me the hay equipment should expect 540 RPM and re-gear it as necessary onboard. There shouldn't be a correlation between tractor ground speed and PTO RPM.
A regular oil temp gauge/sensor kit off the auto parts shelf will work just fine, and less than $50 to do....sun visor, same thing, or a junk yard and get one out of a car, or even better if you can find an old bus and get the nice big wide one....except in Brock's case that isn't his tractor so modifying it probably ain't a good idea.
One of my concerns is parts availability. Apparently one of the dealerships in Tennessee stopped carrying these because it was hard to get parts. Have you seen or heard any issues in regards to that?
I have a TYM 474T with the hydrostat. When I run my hand throttle up to 2000 RPM where I am usually running it when I am mowing or using the grapple all I have to do is ease into the pedal and control the speed so I'm not really sure what you are talking about. I am almost always in the low range speed setting. When I m doing loader work I don't use the hand throttle unless I am lifting very heavy loads. I am 6'2 and the pedal positions seem as though they are custom fit for me. Maybe TYM could put adjustable pedals in but that would mean more expense. The one thing that really bugs me more than anything else is that I wish they would have a warning beep when you leave the parking brake on. I have done that countless times. It would be a quick fix. They could do the same with the fluid temp. It wouldn't cost more than $10 bucks for them to add these. Mine is open station so a lot of your gripes are not applicable for mine.
Just bought a T394 and got on it the first time this past weekend....I did the same thing with the parking brake a couple times. I don't understand why the light doesn't come on...?
@@weeweed86 there is no light, at least on mine. Even if mine had one I probably wouldn’t see it. I can’t read any of the gauges unless I take my sunglasses off. That’s why I would rather have an audible warning .
JD just caved to some extent. They are taking our SOME of the DEI policies. A good start, but we need more details. They are still firing Americans and moving production to Mexico. I have been disappointed with JD for a few years on quality issues. I am seriously considering TYM.
Sir. Receiving a tractor to use for free, is a form of payment. We can not get free use. I get it and consider your information, as I myself am looking at a tym. Quality and cost are my initial reasons. Thank you for the eval.
Man, I don't know about the inability to turn off the auto-throttle. Maybe I don't fully understand it, but to me, the HUGE advantage to an HST tractor is the ability to have infinite forward speeds while keeping the PTO where you want it
It'd be great if the hydraulic load on the pump sensed and controlled engine/pump speed. The further you push the loader level in a direction, the faster you want the loader to work...the engine would autothrottle to that input. First World problem really.
Ok if I compare a f450 limited to a Toyota... one is $ 100,000+ the other not so much. Point is we may not "need" to buy a John Deere or a Kubota that is priced out of most folks budget just because if the color and name. Especially when another mat work just fine or better because you actually do not have to go to the dealer to buy parts that you can get online.... I think we know we might not get the extra cup holder or arm rest...lol. Does it work? Will it last without breaking the baninformation. I have a bx23 and it is a %$#@! to get the backhoe on and off, so much so I leave it on as long as I can and all the hoses are crap. My svl65 was fantastic machine, very over priced. Thanks for your info.
Re the quick attach. It's my understanding that early on, there were a few different designs, one developed by Bobcat. Despite the known flaws & shortcomings in that design, Bobcat (market leader at that time?) steadfastly maintained theirs was the best, refused to even try anyone else's, and pretty much forced the industry to except it.
Live in Maryland. Contacted 2 dealers(1 in Md and 1 in PA) through the TYM site to get pricing on a T574. After over a month, still no response. I contacted TYM corporate through their site to let them know of the issue and after a week, I got no response from them either. Seems mind boggling to me. Don’t seem to want to sell their tractors.
That is so weird Call the Tractor yard from my video description. They will ship one to you for a dollar a mile shipping after selling it below list price
Brock, the T574 "auto throttle " kinda doesn't exist.... It can't be shutoff because it's all mechanical linkage. There are cables from your hydro pedals that move the throttle in the engine, all mechanically controlled, there can't be a switch to shut it off. You might be able to physically unhook that cable from the throttle. Thanks fir the honest input. I also have a T574. I can overlook these flaws considering it's about 1/2 the price of Deer/Kubota (and had more lift)
if that was the case I'd go to a junkyard and I start searching out visors and find one that was adjustable and off and just mounted in there or grab some window tint and just put some on the front and the side wherever you need it
I still own a John Deere tractor. I have had problems with it and they are way overpriced. Before getting this Tractor, I did a series of videos comparing every single brand of comparable Tractor in all categories from capacity to price. TYM is the best option in my mind
Big drawback there on the auto throttle. Some other machines have a throttle up button on the loader stick for speeding the loader actions. That wouldn’t help with the haying issue though! I don’t get why any tractor has a PTO shield that isn’t hinged or removable for connecting attachments. That just doesn’t make sense.
I got someone at my previous job with that. The oven was messed up, and I told them I figured out what the problem was, that someone calibrated it using metric minutes instead of SAE minutes....they actually called the maintenance tech and told him that....Needless to say I got a phone call from the maintenance tech a few minutes later as he was trying to not laugh, but laughing as he asked me if I had anything to do with that phone call LOL.
I wouldn't buy a Deer for parts issues I've got deer stuff that if the parts are available the handbrake was $560 and also they blacklist all of their sizes so you can't go somewhere and just buy a 52 inch belt because they have them blacklisted we're getting them in from out of the country now from other places in the world but they don't give you the sizes my neighbor has a tractor that keeps snapping front spindles they called it a Price fighter of all things but it's a lot of money for one of those spindles he know has one sitting on the shelf so he doesn't have to wait the next time it breaks
MTD is never good news they take well-known brands that are very good and cheapen them up as much as they possibly can and live on the former legacy I avoid any MTD like the plague look what they did to cub cadet, Ferris and others
Welp, THAT’S IT!!! I’m keeping MY John Deere!😅 Go wheel and deal with your local John Deere. Might have to do a lil kissing up for all the negative press, but hey in the end, it might be worth it!? Today was a good start!😂😂😂. Love your channel!
I would also think a gear drive tractor for doing hay work would be a better option anyhow, since a lot of time you are going at a consistent speed anyhow. Kind of like mowing, you pretty much go the same speed...pick a gear and go. I don't mind the hydrostatic transaxle in my tractor but I have a sub-compact tractor, so I'm always doing different tasks, so the hydrostatic isn't much of an issue, and it does have cruise control so you can kind of pick a speed on it and set it. I do wish it had a 3 range transmission though, sometimes something between low and high would be helpful.
Im sure glad you said those were ticky tacky items you pointed out on the outside of the tractor because that was exactly what I was going to write Brock. I hear you on the rear remotes but the trade off is you are in an air conditioned cab listening to tunes and the cab has made it a little awkward to reach. I can just hear a farmer from 70 years ago that fought in WW2 laughing at you now as you are sitting in your TYM that looks nothing like, functions nothing like and has no creature comforts from the tractor he had in the 1950s. With that said, we, the viewers want to hear all of these issues you have told about. No tractor is perfect but it is pretty evident you have a good one here in the TYM. I'd must rather hear you tell it like it is than a dealership's salesman saying nothing other than this is a good tractor and you need to buy it..
you can sit in an air condition heated cab would be out of the blizzard and get your cattle fed it's much more pleasant than sitting on the seat of your tractor getting blistered or heaven forbid running a snowblower and getting blasted I'll take Cab any day even if it is hard for me to get in and out of it sometimes
It's a tractor 🚜. Not a Lamborghini. This is why it comes cheaper. You get what you are paying for 😅.I am very sure that if A Amish farrier will not be whining like a little girl.
Exactly. So many people are trying to push these cheaper tractors....great, but 100% of them are forgetting the fact they paid less, so they got a lower quality, lesser refined machine because of all that money they saved....then they complain about all that stuff....well you wanted to be cheap and saved money over buying a better brand machine, you got what you paid for is exactly what they got.
@@wildbill23c but you also get a tractor that a regular mechanic can maintain that does not require a computer hook up to figure out anything that might be going wrong I avoid electronics like the plague
This sounds like a picky complaint session. You obviously have not spent enough time on any of the older all manual tractors without a cab.......you work to operate them...now with all the anemities you complain about the smallstuff.......go BUY the perfect tractor....it does not exist as all tractors have their little quirks, and if there was that perfect tractor YOU could not afford it !!!
I was raised on big cabless open station tractors. If I ever said anything about being froze on the seat ... he just say ... Powerpuff when you're done complaining... get some work done😂
The deere quick attach is closer to the global style quick attach that's on bigger equipment... as you said it's easier to attach especially if you drop a bucket on un level terrain.
I saw a guy going over the mods on his TYM . He put extra long extensions on the remote levers and it was no longer a problem 👍
I think you're spot on with some of these gripes. You did hit the nail on the head, though. TYM's have more simplicity reflected in the cost. It's all a trade-off. Great video Brock
the Idea of the hydrostatic fluid temperature guage is a GREAT idea !
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Probably could add one quite easily, a regular off the shelf oil temp gauge, and there's probably a location you could tap into on the hydraulic system to put the sensor. Probably less than a $50 modification, course you'd want to actually own the tractor first before doing any modifications, but aside from that it wouldn't be hard to do.
I have a tym 474. Im in Michigan. My priorities when buying it was being able to lift my 1500 pound round bales, having hydrostat so my wife would drive it, and having a heated cab for the winter. I had an open station massey before that I loved, but TYM was $18000 less money for a cab tractor than massey, john deere, or anyone els. If I trade tractors again, I will get 24 inch rear rims. THere is much larger selection of tires available in 24 inch rims for more liquid ballast capacity. THis tym is a little clunky. THe rear remote levers, like he said, are very short, and awkward to operate. My range selector doesnt move smoothly. The 3 point lever inside the cab is short and too close to the seat. Like I said, the tractor is a little clunky, but for the money, it does everything I want it to do. Im happy with it overall.
I am in Michigan as well and I look forward to getting my 474 cab
All the shortcomings many people mention with these tractors are the results of cost cutting....you saved $18,000 but did you really? No, you have several items that due to saving you money you have to awkwardly operate instead....so, maybe rather than everyone looking at the price of these tractors maybe actually see how the thing feels, all the controls work, pedal locations, lever locations, how smooth things work, etc. stop looking at the price tag, start looking at the features you may or may not be getting, and how clunky and awkward the machine is during operation....I'd rather pay more and get a machine that isn't so awkward to operate, and operates smoothly, and the controls operate smooth as well.
Brock mentioned the loader is slow at idle, I think that's the case with every loader as the hydraulic pump isn't running at peak RPM to give you the loader speed you want or think you need....that's the problem with that auto throttle crap, sounds cool on paper but in reality its not worth it, set the throttle at the proper operating RPM for what you are doing and leave it alone you really aren't saving any fuel or time in the long run.
Hi there Brock. One of the things that make the T574 simplistic is the auto throttle is not a fly by wire system and has a physical connection that utilizes motion instead of switches. The only way to stop the auto throttle function is to disconnect the lever connector. The hand throttle uses a cable separately.
You are so correct about the skid steer attachment system. The JD hook & pin is by far the best for tractors. I am blind in 1 eye, ended up painting alifnment marks, that i can see with the camera mounted on the brush guard. As a last resort, sometimes i end up standing beside the Passenger side of the tractor, so i can work the pedals & joystick to hook up. It is unbelievable how important depth perception is to perform these simple tasks...
I appreciate that you keep it real with your likes and dislikes with your tractor Brock, respect. I'm also surprised that you've got 60 or so hours on that tractor already! You've only had it for a month or so, right? You're doing a lot of tractoring!!! 🙂
No more skid steer so the TYM is picking up the slack. LOL
More than just semantics, there's a difference between a grill guard and a brush guard. The grill guard offers protection from front end collision damage when a loader is not present, whereas the brush guard protects from intrusion damage, as with grapple use. Why tractor manufacturers haven't gotten the message that we need a real tool box on these machines is beyond me.
I run a tym 394. I mow, blow snow, run a loader and do loader things and it’s great for me, the only thing is the, range selector is sticky when it’s cold out, so you have to move the tractor around to get it into gear which can be difficult or near impossible to get it out of small spaces when parked.
I love mine. It’s just small nitpicky kind of things.
I'd definitely do some tint on that tractor. Not only does it look cool but it serves a big function too. And as far as the lights you could do led lights on the top front and back. A big curved led light bar on the front and back is awesome at night time when you get caught in the dark
I just bought the same tractor. JMHO, run the engine RPM up for the hydraulic pump performance to function for all loader work. Agree, don't like the non-brush grille, but I have trees and not hay fields, using a grapple primarily. Like the lift capacity being 2800 lbs'ish. I got a cloth TYM bag with my purchase and holds any tool, and bag sets behind seat. Not convenient but one isn't grabbing a tool every time you get in or out of tractor. Wish the SS lever were automated from inside the cab. That would be worth the money. Enjoy your day!
My thoughts only, I've had a lot of experience with tractors. The advantage of a manual transmission over hydrostatic is that you set your RPM and control ground speed by selecting the appropriate gear. As for auto throttle its not for me. I dare say a lot of people would disagree.
Manual transmissions suck for loader work. I will never own another one.
@@co1003I have a geared tractor with a synchro shuttle and it works well for loader work.
@@AlanSanderson-u4t shuttle is not as bad, but still a touch slower than hydrostatic
Lookg fwd to a Kioti 2515 cab Non-hydro. Non-hydro! God bless you & God bless America. TFS
Just bought TYM 4820Ch. Very similar model to T574. Many small issues you listed here do not exist in "Branson" line of TYM. Just FYI if you want to compare and contrast.
I have LS 357. I bent the handles on the quick attatch, putting on the forks. You can't see what's happening.
Good list
I can see that happening on a lot of tractors where you can't see anything with the loader below hood level. But I like the SSQA a lot better than being stuck with a proprietary system like JD has. SSQA gives you a huge range of attachment options, where JD you are limited to what they sell, and what other companies are willing to build to fit the JD system.
In my opinion there's no perfect made tractor but it is what ever you like it's your business and your money
This is a great comment
Very positive kvetching 😎✅
I agree with the quick attach system, it's very hard to judge ( because you can't see ) where the attachment aligns with the implement. I would be happy if the peddles where switched with fwd being on the outside, it was hard to get used to it being where it is.
One solution to linked peddle is what I did , loosen the adjustment on the fuel pump so the auto throttle doesn’t come on as soon, tweek it how u like it
Except it isn't his tractor, so he's kind of stuck with what he has....one major downfall of getting stuff on loan for free, you probably can't be tweaking anything on the machines.
Yes i think everyone thinks if you have all the money in the world, JD is awesome. They have the control to create a better quick attach, better belly mower attach system, and im sure there are some other things they have a patent on. Other than the belly mower though i dont think their patents justify the price premium. For me there is a price/convenience line and JD is way over the line.
14:30 there is a turbo version of 4820 - TYM 5520C (55 hp) in "Branson" model line. Check it out ;)
I'll be honest if your doing a review on a tractor we all want honesty and weather it's paid or not that should always be the way it is TRUTHFUL!!!!
The deere quick attach is closer to the global style quick attach that's on bigger equipment... as you said it's easier to attach especially if you drop a bucket on un level terrain.
The linked pedal is because of the mechanical fuel pump. If you look on your fuel pump both hand throttle and foot pedal are connected to the same linkage arm. One of the down sides about have an all mechanical engine vs engine with ecm. If you don’t like the linked pedal take the throttle cable for that out. My tym 4820 is the same way I just leave it at half throttle doing loader work.
I have owned both subframe and 3 points one was on 1050 jd it was subframe the other one was kelley B70 both was great I had it on jd 5400
so what you are saying is the TYM is by far the best bang-4-buck
Someone said in the comments about being $18,000 less than Deere and Kubota (I think.) , that is huge savings. I could live with these minor complaints for 18 grand but I understand there are those that can peel off the green backs for any Tractor out there. I would save the bucks but everyone gets to choose. There are a plethora of makes, models and Brands on the Market. Get what you want.
I agree with the hydraulic temperature 10000%. I own a 2515 and have 20 hours already and ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT. IM 6'4 and I feel the tractor "cockpit" was build for me. I personally think you're grasping at split hairs on every other complaint you have. John deer doesn't deserve a comparison because of the 2-3 times the cost for a comparable tractor. 90% of your wish list complaints cost more to engineer and implement than anyone is willing to pay. Look at jogn deer for ex. That's why there's 3rd party aftermarket to custize how you want cheaper. Just my 2 worthless cents.
I'm glad to see this review, I was wondering about the TYM you're running for hay and some of the pluses and minuses. Thanks
I too have a 574, much prefer the mechanical injection but didn't like auto throttle so I disabled it at the pump, fairly easy task. My biggest gripe, and you did not address it, is the proxemity of the loader joystick to my leg. Seems that every time I twist around to check on what is occurring with my rear mount impliment, I inadvertently bump the loader joystick and dump the bucket or drop the loader into the ground. Friends who I have permitted to operate the tractor have made the same observation. But I still love the tractor.
Kioti CK/DK also has the rear remote levers way down low beside the seat rather than up on the fender. Very inconvenient.
My TYM 574 is back on the trailer again for the third time. Headed to dealer AGAIN for transmission/drivetrain issues.
i saw a video where one dealer said they have never been into a TYM transmission. Is it hydro or shuttle?
@ shuttle
Brock, I don’t think it’s fair to compare the JD backhoe you have to the TYM backhoe. They’re completely different. One is a subframe and one is a 3 point hitch. The subframe has significant more power than a three point (one not on steroids, like yours). I’ve had both and will go subframe all day. While storage and installation is more difficult, I’d take the power every day. Thanks for the content!
Is there anyone in the world who thinks a 3 point backhoe is comparable to a subframe?
I think there's three issues you missed.
1) The gear range is not ideal. In medium range, you have to really ramp up the RPMs to get any ground speed. High range lacks torque (as expected). I find the H/M/L range on the Kubota L4701 to be really good. I can leave that in medium nearly full time. On the 574, it's constantly switching between H and M.
2) There's no coast down when you take your foot off the throttle. It comes to a very sudden stop, almost as if you stood on the brakes. The Kubota transmissions have a little bit of coast down so you roll to a stop in a very short distance.
3) The TYM creeps at idle. If you don't want it to move, you've got to put the brake on or put in neutral. The Kubota transmissions don't do this.
That being said, I don't have any regrets about the buying the 574, but it is a definite difference I notice. As far as the speed of the PTO and the auto-throttle and such, I don't have any experience with that. But it seems to me the hay equipment should expect 540 RPM and re-gear it as necessary onboard. There shouldn't be a correlation between tractor ground speed and PTO RPM.
Sounds like the after market opportunities for an add on heat Guage and sun visor and maybe a few other things.
A regular oil temp gauge/sensor kit off the auto parts shelf will work just fine, and less than $50 to do....sun visor, same thing, or a junk yard and get one out of a car, or even better if you can find an old bus and get the nice big wide one....except in Brock's case that isn't his tractor so modifying it probably ain't a good idea.
would agree the auto throttle should be able to be turned off
One of my concerns is parts availability. Apparently one of the dealerships in Tennessee stopped carrying these because it was hard to get parts. Have you seen or heard any issues in regards to that?
Love your prospective
I have a TYM 474T with the hydrostat. When I run my hand throttle up to 2000 RPM where I am usually running it when I am mowing or using the grapple all I have to do is ease into the pedal and control the speed so I'm not really sure what you are talking about. I am almost always in the low range speed setting. When I m doing loader work I don't use the hand throttle unless I am lifting very heavy loads.
I am 6'2 and the pedal positions seem as though they are custom fit for me. Maybe TYM could put adjustable pedals in but that would mean more expense.
The one thing that really bugs me more than anything else is that I wish they would have a warning beep when you leave the parking brake on. I have done that countless times. It would be a quick fix. They could do the same with the fluid temp. It wouldn't cost more than $10 bucks for them to add these.
Mine is open station so a lot of your gripes are not applicable for mine.
Just bought a T394 and got on it the first time this past weekend....I did the same thing with the parking brake a couple times. I don't understand why the light doesn't come on...?
@@weeweed86 there is no light, at least on mine. Even if mine had one I probably wouldn’t see it. I can’t read any of the gauges unless I take my sunglasses off. That’s why I would rather have an audible warning .
@@rodzimmerman1979 I’ll look at mine this weekend and see if I can figure out a way to run a buzzer to it.
JD just caved to some extent. They are taking our SOME of the DEI policies. A good start, but we need more details. They are still firing Americans and moving production to Mexico. I have been disappointed with JD for a few years on quality issues. I am seriously considering TYM.
Sir. Receiving a tractor to use for free, is a form of payment. We can not get free use. I get it and consider your information, as I myself am looking at a tym. Quality and cost are my initial reasons. Thank you for the eval.
I’m liking my 2515h
What is the long term reliability as well as parts availability and east of repair and maintenance?
I have a jd 5425 &5625 you should come to Madisonville TX and run my tractors i would like to meet you and let you drive both of them lol
I bolted an ammo can to the passenger side step on my 5520.
The linked peddle problem is tied to it being all mechanical.
On my RK version of the same tractor, I have a button on left dash that turns auto throttle on/off.
I'd like the ammo idea a scabbard for the rifles would be nice also
Man, I don't know about the inability to turn off the auto-throttle. Maybe I don't fully understand it, but to me, the HUGE advantage to an HST tractor is the ability to have infinite forward speeds while keeping the PTO where you want it
It'd be great if the hydraulic load on the pump sensed and controlled engine/pump speed. The further you push the loader level in a direction, the faster you want the loader to work...the engine would autothrottle to that input. First World problem really.
probably would require computer control for that and that's what a lot of us try to get away from
I'd like a flip down sun visor! Well u just want it all ur way don't ya ? Go to store n buy tint
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Ok if I compare a f450 limited to a Toyota... one is
$ 100,000+ the other not so much. Point is we may not "need" to buy a John Deere or a Kubota that is priced out of most folks budget just because if the color and name. Especially when another mat work just fine or better because you actually do not have to go to the dealer to buy parts that you can get online.... I think we know we might not get the extra cup holder or arm rest...lol. Does it work? Will it last without breaking the baninformation. I have a bx23 and it is a %$#@! to get the backhoe on and off, so much so I leave it on as long as I can and all the hoses are crap. My svl65 was fantastic machine, very over priced. Thanks for your info.
Re the quick attach. It's my understanding that early on, there were a few different designs, one developed by Bobcat. Despite the known flaws & shortcomings in that design, Bobcat (market leader at that time?) steadfastly maintained theirs was the best, refused to even try anyone else's, and pretty much forced the industry to except it.
Live in Maryland. Contacted 2 dealers(1 in Md and 1 in PA) through the TYM site to get pricing on a T574. After over a month, still no response. I contacted TYM corporate through their site to let them know of the issue and after a week, I got no response from them either. Seems mind boggling to me. Don’t seem to want to sell their tractors.
That is so weird
Call the Tractor yard from my video description. They will ship one to you for a dollar a mile shipping after selling it below list price
Brock, the T574 "auto throttle " kinda doesn't exist.... It can't be shutoff because it's all mechanical linkage. There are cables from your hydro pedals that move the throttle in the engine, all mechanically controlled, there can't be a switch to shut it off. You might be able to physically unhook that cable from the throttle.
Thanks fir the honest input. I also have a T574. I can overlook these flaws considering it's about 1/2 the price of Deer/Kubota (and had more lift)
I love it
Can you comment on Case IH 30-50HP tractors?
Surely some sunglasses would be cheaper than a sun visor.
if that was the case I'd go to a junkyard and I start searching out visors and find one that was adjustable and off and just mounted in there or grab some window tint and just put some on the front and the side wherever you need it
Take that FREE tractor back and buy one that suits you.😢😢😂😂
Agreed bro he should get a John deere
I'll take a free one, even if it IS junk. Lol.
@@rollinwithbros4984what size John Deere should he get?
I still own a John Deere tractor. I have had problems with it and they are way overpriced.
Before getting this Tractor, I did a series of videos comparing every single brand of comparable Tractor in all categories from capacity to price.
TYM is the best option in my mind
@@RockhillfarmYT I just bought a 4815. Already wishing I bought a 494. Just a bit bigger
Not able to turn off auto throttle would be a big deal for me. I would prefer a gear drive transmission.
Get a Badboy Trackor. I have a 4025.
Sounds like you should’ve bought a Kioti 😂😂👍🏻
,mostly seem to be ergonomics as the issues.
would think there would be an hyd oil cooler
I have never heard anyone complain about equipment more than you do!
Collins Stravenue
Not once you convert to remote from the wrok stations
ou just need a bigger TYM!
Even the 40 year old equipment that I run has transmission temperature gauges. 🤷♂️
Can u try badboy 4035
Don't you have some hay to bail?
Big drawback there on the auto throttle. Some other machines have a throttle up button on the loader stick for speeding the loader actions. That wouldn’t help with the haying issue though! I don’t get why any tractor has a PTO shield that isn’t hinged or removable for connecting attachments. That just doesn’t make sense.
John Deere attachments when you put pressure on them they will break I've never broken a quick attach my experience with a John Deere don't like them
You still have not switched to English measurements, those hours are in metric 😂
I got someone at my previous job with that. The oven was messed up, and I told them I figured out what the problem was, that someone calibrated it using metric minutes instead of SAE minutes....they actually called the maintenance tech and told him that....Needless to say I got a phone call from the maintenance tech a few minutes later as he was trying to not laugh, but laughing as he asked me if I had anything to do with that phone call LOL.
@@wildbill23c 😅😅🤣🤣
I wouldn’t buy a tym, ls or any other off brand just for parts issues, but I hope you have great luck
I wouldn't buy a Deer for parts issues I've got deer stuff that if the parts are available the handbrake was $560 and also they blacklist all of their sizes so you can't go somewhere and just buy a 52 inch belt because they have them blacklisted we're getting them in from out of the country now from other places in the world but they don't give you the sizes
my neighbor has a tractor that keeps snapping front spindles they called it a Price fighter of all things but it's a lot of money for one of those spindles he know has one sitting on the shelf so he doesn't have to wait the next time it breaks
sun glasses
Get a manual transmission.
You have not owned a tractor till you have a bobcat, the MTD of the compact tractor world 😂😂😢
LMAO
MTD is never good news they take well-known brands that are very good and cheapen them up as much as they possibly can and live on the former legacy
I avoid any MTD like the plague look what they did to cub cadet, Ferris and others
Welp, THAT’S IT!!! I’m keeping MY John Deere!😅 Go wheel and deal with your local John Deere. Might have to do a lil kissing up for all the negative press, but hey in the end, it might be worth it!? Today was a good start!😂😂😂. Love your channel!
No thanks.
I'm trying to figure a Button on the Loader control to run the RPM's up as needed.
Always buy hydrostat for small tractors. Always buy gear tractors over 50 hp
I would also think a gear drive tractor for doing hay work would be a better option anyhow, since a lot of time you are going at a consistent speed anyhow. Kind of like mowing, you pretty much go the same speed...pick a gear and go.
I don't mind the hydrostatic transaxle in my tractor but I have a sub-compact tractor, so I'm always doing different tasks, so the hydrostatic isn't much of an issue, and it does have cruise control so you can kind of pick a speed on it and set it. I do wish it had a 3 range transmission though, sometimes something between low and high would be helpful.
@@wildbill23c the TYM 2610 is a 3 range hydro with 1375 fel capacity.
@@wildbill23c No
I don't like that it is red 😂😂😂
I agree that the JDQA is just better for tractors
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#1 looser guy am I 🤪
Im sure glad you said those were ticky tacky items you pointed out on the outside of the tractor because that was exactly what I was going to write Brock. I hear you on the rear remotes but the trade off is you are in an air conditioned cab listening to tunes and the cab has made it a little awkward to reach. I can just hear a farmer from 70 years ago that fought in WW2 laughing at you now as you are sitting in your TYM that looks nothing like, functions nothing like and has no creature comforts from the tractor he had in the 1950s. With that said, we, the viewers want to hear all of these issues you have told about. No tractor is perfect but it is pretty evident you have a good one here in the TYM. I'd must rather hear you tell it like it is than a dealership's salesman saying nothing other than this is a good tractor and you need to buy it..
you can sit in an air condition heated cab would be out of the blizzard and get your cattle fed it's much more pleasant than sitting on the seat of your tractor getting blistered or heaven forbid running a snowblower and getting blasted
I'll take Cab any day even if it is hard for me to get in and out of it sometimes
Why are you yelling? Lol
It's a tractor 🚜. Not a Lamborghini. This is why it comes cheaper. You get what you are paying for 😅.I am very sure that if A Amish farrier will not be whining like a little girl.
Exactly. So many people are trying to push these cheaper tractors....great, but 100% of them are forgetting the fact they paid less, so they got a lower quality, lesser refined machine because of all that money they saved....then they complain about all that stuff....well you wanted to be cheap and saved money over buying a better brand machine, you got what you paid for is exactly what they got.
or just buy a Lamborghini tractor ?
@@wildbill23c but you also get a tractor that a regular mechanic can maintain that does not require a computer hook up to figure out anything that might be going wrong
I avoid electronics like the plague
This sounds like a picky complaint session. You obviously have not spent enough time on any of the older all manual tractors without a cab.......you work to operate them...now with all the anemities you complain about the smallstuff.......go BUY the perfect tractor....it does not exist as all tractors have their little quirks, and if there was that perfect tractor YOU could not afford it !!!
I was raised on big cabless open station tractors. If I ever said anything about being froze on the seat ... he just say ... Powerpuff when you're done complaining... get some work done😂
The deere quick attach is closer to the global style quick attach that's on bigger equipment... as you said it's easier to attach especially if you drop a bucket on un level terrain.